6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington 140gr Federal Fusion Pork and Ballistics Gel Test

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @makeamericagreatagain7314
    @makeamericagreatagain7314 4 года назад +186

    With out looking at this video I'd take the 7mm08...hands down

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +9

      Me too, the only reason I own that 6.5 is a friend sold out to me dirt cheap

    • @KathrynLiz1
      @KathrynLiz1 4 года назад +1

      Yes I kind of wondered why, when the 6.5 Creedmoor came out.... a 6.5 on the ,308 case would be really gnarley

    • @tomahawk7796
      @tomahawk7796 4 года назад +10

      KathrynLiz1 that would pretty much be a 260 Remington I just don’t think it truly caught on as it should’ve

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +4

      The 6.5 case's design was to create more stable bullet seating and more uniform powder burns

    • @edjett2631
      @edjett2631 4 года назад +8

      @@tomahawk7796 That's exactly a .260 Remington. Remington the company is the problem not .260 Remington the cartridge. It is my cartridge of choice for my next hunting rifle (if I decide to buy another one).

  • @robertnichols9232
    @robertnichols9232 4 года назад +66

    A retest is a must.
    I've hammered DRT moose, whitetail, hog, and bear with the 7-08. I've seen 4 moose drop to the 7mm-08, but only one drt, other 3 didn't go more than 100 meters.
    Both are fine calibers. But I have a few 7mm-08 and it became my pet round in a general purpose rifle.

    • @johnmorganjr769
      @johnmorganjr769 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, the numbers don't lie !! More than a few relatives believe it to be the 'go-to' as well. 👍

    • @Paul-q3m7k
      @Paul-q3m7k Месяц назад +1

      If you have a moose going 100 yards …you’ve made a very bad shot .

    • @tomwaits4205
      @tomwaits4205 2 дня назад +1

      ​@@Paul-q3m7k I've never shot a Moose but I've seen a bunch of them. My first Bull Elk was taken with a 30-06 at 210 yards, with a 180 grn. Nosler acubond. That SOB ran 140 yards after being hit right in the boiler. I can only imagine how tuff a Moose could be. I've had mule deer drop in there tracks and white tail run 80 yrds fro. Shots that should have stopped them immediately. Let's not pass judgment on other hunters unless you were there watching through the binoculars. Sometimes these critters will to live outweighs our belief in what's possible.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  2 дня назад

      @tomwaits4205 only Central Nervous system shots stop immediately. No other shot should be expected to put an animal on the ground. They naturally have more adrenaline in the blood than we do so their flight or fight reasons is way more natural and rehearsed. My second shot on my was right where the spine went into the shoulder. And my 127gr barnes LRX from the 6.5x284 Norma worked well.

  • @64samsky
    @64samsky 4 года назад +88

    I have both the 7mm-08 and a 6.5 Creedmor. Both are pretty good cartridges, but I'd pick the 7mm-08 if I could have 1.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +9

      Me too, if i wasn't sold the 6.5 Creedmoor for 200 bucks, I'd have gotten a 7mm-08

    • @bryceatcheson5791
      @bryceatcheson5791 4 года назад +3

      What is the recoil comparison out of the 2 cartridges?

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +4

      Minimal

    • @doghousedon1
      @doghousedon1 4 года назад +15

      @@bryceatcheson5791 The difference in recoil between the two is insignificant (factory 140s), you won't notice it. However, the 7 is capable of shooting heavier bullets faster and those will recoil a tad more. I've found the 7 will do everything the 6.5 will, but not the opposite. I love my 6.5, but the 7 is my choice for deer and elk.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +3

      @Don Thursby That's a fair point but my 6.5 sledgehammered a caribou this past Saturday. But in general I agree

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer 3 года назад +27

    The 7mm 08 round is one of the most versatile available.

  • @jerrybruce2295
    @jerrybruce2295 Год назад +8

    Wyoming here: I’m seeing some amazing results from the 6.5. I’ve just taken Mule deer with mine but my buddy took a nice 6x bull elk and a really nice 2 yo bull moose with his. I’ve taken 3 good mule deer bucks with mine and it performed perfectly. Two broadside shots and one quartering. I’m really beginning to love the 6.5

  • @patobrien7009
    @patobrien7009 4 года назад +12

    I own both in the ruger American. Both killed whitetail deer in Texas. I'm very happy with both. What this video showed me was just how well the Federal Fusion bullets work.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Yeah i was impressed with the fusion. Thanks for watching!! Good Hunting and Godspeed

  • @Hickok
    @Hickok 4 года назад +29

    I have a Rem. 700 in 7mm08, great rifle. Puts whitetail deer down with ease.

  • @davidteague5461
    @davidteague5461 4 года назад +33

    This video helped . I own a 260 , and wanted a nother gun kinda like it. I think 7mm o8 is next gun.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      That's great to hear thanks for watching. Let me know how that works out with the new 7mm-08

    • @surfandstreamfisher5749
      @surfandstreamfisher5749 4 года назад +3

      i don't think you'd notice a bit of difference between the 2 in any hunting application.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      @@surfandstreamfisher5749 agreed

    • @2017Toy
      @2017Toy 4 года назад +6

      If I were you I would save my money and keep the 260 there’s not enough difference between these three rounds to make a difference I shot a deer with a 140 gr 260 Remington Corelokt bullet and I could have stuck a football in the exit hole

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      @@2017Toy that sounds like a lot of meat damage

  • @mattcrowell7945
    @mattcrowell7945 4 года назад +26

    I have a rem model 7 in 7mm08 that I have owned for about 25 years that is my favorite rifle of all time. It is light, easy to carry, accurate, flat shooting and it hits hard enough to do the job on elk. Performance between the 7-08 and 6.5creedmore is so close it is hard to pick one over the other! I have owned 7-08's for a long time before the 6.5creedmore was around.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +5

      The model 7 7mm-08 is a great hunting rifle. Good choice.

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus 4 года назад +19

    I think the 7mm 08 is a very good cartridge. With proper shot placement a deer hardly takes a step or two before they are down. Fusion is great for the money!

  • @fredrutledge3628
    @fredrutledge3628 4 года назад +31

    Splitting hairs there. They both are very effective rounds.

  • @Stu650Zuk
    @Stu650Zuk 4 года назад +11

    My Remington model 7 stainless in 7mm-08 is my favorite deer rifle I have ever owned. It's a lightweight mountain rifle, but very comfortable to shoot. I believe the 7mm-08 was based to be the equivalent of the old 7x57 Mauser or something along those lines. I started with a Model 98 Mauser in 7x57 and shot many deer with it as a young man. Sold it and got a new Remington 700BDL in 7 Rem Mag. and within a few years I wanted something more like my old 7x57 and got the Rem Model 7 in 7mm-08. It's been called the perfect whitetail cartridge by many people. Flat trajectory, plenty of energy for the job and easy to shoot and highly accurate. I believe the only thing the 6.5CM beats it at is a slightly less wind drift at long range but mostly due to bullet design as 7mm-08 as far as I know doesn't have any bullets with the BC of a 6.5CM. Either cartridge will do the job,,flip a coin.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +3

      Yeah i love the 7mm-08 in a model 7. Wish i had one

  • @joeyount3864
    @joeyount3864 4 года назад +4

    I bought my grandson's both a 7mm08 to hunt whitetails here in Texas. Both boys took their first ones opening morning last year . Both boys made good clean one shot kills. Neither deer had to be looked for. They were right where they were standing when they were shot. My oldest grandson also took a 250lb. Wild hog just minutes later with a single perfectly placed shot also. We are all believers in the ,7mm08. Oh one was taken at about 50 yards, while the other was taken at about 100 yards and the hog at about 140 yards. I was a proud grand Dad!

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Nice hunting! Good job granddad!!!

    • @RichardELee-wt4jh
      @RichardELee-wt4jh 6 месяцев назад +1

      Probably that hunt will be engrained in them forever.. what you did for them..and your companionship is the very best..example you could have done for everyone. What a great example of a role model .thanks for sharing your story..

  • @Q2bFF
    @Q2bFF 2 года назад +7

    The federal fusion is probably the best bonded bullet I’ve used on medium game. And one of the most consistent I’ve seen across the three calibers I use it in

  • @timmutina1619
    @timmutina1619 4 года назад +27

    I own 30+ bolt guns in every caliber imaginable.. They will bury me with 1 of them and that will be my Model 700 VLS 7mm08!!!!! Yea its that good..

  • @MichaelEastman-e8v
    @MichaelEastman-e8v 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for reaffirming my decision to stay in Texas after I retired. I made a 7mm/08 for my wife 30 years ago, I’ve borrowed it from her quite a few times with great success.

  • @tomahawk7796
    @tomahawk7796 4 года назад +7

    Bought a 7mm-08 savage axis II last year I absolutely love it.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +2

      Awesome... what load do you run?

    • @tomahawk7796
      @tomahawk7796 4 года назад

      Alaskan Ballistics I run Rem core lokt 140 and Hornady American whitetail 139

  • @syntaxed4365
    @syntaxed4365 4 года назад +11

    Squeaky crunchy snow makes my soul cry haha. Great video. Both great rounds, but I will be going with the 7mm-08. Just had my heart set on that one for a while. Was originally weighing it against a .308, but the flat shooting and resistance to wind drifting with the 7mm-08 won me over.

  • @HALWG51
    @HALWG51 4 года назад +21

    I'm definitely a 7mm-08 fan. Give me one of them for every type of game I'm going to shoot.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Lol agree... that way you don't have to re zero types of ammo

  • @coverfireconcepts9032
    @coverfireconcepts9032 4 года назад +8

    I like both but prefer the 7mm-08 in my ar10. Great video. Thanks for braving the cold to share this with us my friend.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      You're quite welcome, thank you for watching. What kind of ar10 do you have in 7mm-08?

    • @coverfireconcepts9032
      @coverfireconcepts9032 4 года назад +2

      I built mine on a matrix aerospace matched upper and lower. Feeds just like 308 out of pmags. 100% reliable

    • @MrRdvs87
      @MrRdvs87 4 года назад +1

      What does it weigh. I wanted to get an AR-10 and a bunch of uppers since I couldn’t make up my mind on a left handed bolt action. However, I’m thinking because of weight that I’ll still go with the savage.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      My ar10 6.5 has a heavy 18" and is over 9.5 lbs without a scope

    • @MrRdvs87
      @MrRdvs87 4 года назад +1

      Wow, I’ll be looking to get my first non milsurp bolt action then.

  • @redscorpion3
    @redscorpion3 4 года назад +8

    I went the 7-08 route when friends went the 6.5C way. No regrets whatsoever. Very happy to see bigger and heavier targets get taken down with authority! 6.5C pals just shake their heads.😂

  • @AlphaRomeoOneFive
    @AlphaRomeoOneFive 4 года назад +6

    Awesome test Chuck. You and Chuke are brave and dedicated guys for filming when it's that cold out!

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm8005 4 года назад +15

    True Grit gents. Bless your hearts. Great comparison. Both viable deer cartridges. I prefer a 7mm or 30 cal. Good job. Thanks

  • @joehelvey5794
    @joehelvey5794 3 года назад +2

    Every time I see where you live, I feel sorry for myself. Seriously ridiculously gorgeous views my gosh. I appreciate you doing these tests even more today with the cost of ammo. Thank you Sir.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      Thank you sir!

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад

      Come on up sometime

    • @joehelvey5794
      @joehelvey5794 3 года назад +2

      Omg don’t tempt me. Someday I’d love to come see Alaska with my own eyes. I sincerely appreciate that man.

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii4181 4 года назад +3

    Awesome versus video , Sir !!!!!!! I absolutely love my Savage Model 111 Trophy Hunter in 7mm-08. I use 139 grain Remington Core-Locks in my rifle. Now i will try some of these Federal Fusion 140 grains out. Thanks a bunch

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Sweet... if the corelokts are accurate and work, don't switch

    • @martinfernandez5005
      @martinfernandez5005 4 года назад

      I use 140gr Remington core Lokt in my .264 Win Mag for Elk. Harvested 3 under 200 yrds. At 300 yrds the bullet pinholed thru both lungs and I had to track over 1000 yrds until blood trail went cold. I'm looking for bonded Norma Oryx 156gr custom loaded for my .264 Win Mag. Hopefully better expansion and conetic energy with meat in my freezer 😋.

  • @johnkizziah108
    @johnkizziah108 4 года назад +2

    You guys are good no egos just simple tests and information keep it up boys.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Thank you brother. Godspeed. New videos every Wednesday.

  • @duncnz3129
    @duncnz3129 4 года назад +7

    I've been using the 7mm08 for the last 35 years and wouldn't bother to change to the smaller 6.5 's , the deer won't know the difference and I won't need to buy new reloading gear , interestingly both were developed as target rounds and have become popular medium game rounds . I think you need to do another test in mid summer .

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Definitely will do another test in midsummer. Thanks for watching

  • @Leverguns50
    @Leverguns50 4 года назад +16

    I would say their neck and neck, but of course larger bore diameter will do more damage to the game animal and achieve higher velocity’s with less pressure

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Exactly. Thanks for watching brother!

    • @G5Hohn
      @G5Hohn 4 года назад +11

      True. The calibers themselves are so similar that any difference in performance comes down to different ranges or bullet construction-- not really one caliber vs another. Especially when comparing identical weights. By sectional density, the 160-class bullets in 7mm are closer to what a 140 is in 6.5. And you'll note the two calibers push comparable SDs at comparable speeds. (160 in 7-08 is basically the same as a 140 in 6.5). 7mm gives a tiny bit more recoil and a tiny bit more energy.
      Ultimately, I chose the 6.5 because the SAAMI reamer is a smarter design with the 1.5 degree leade instead of a 3 degree leade Remington afflicts their rounds with. The 6.5 chamber will run heavy and long bullets with a SAAMI chamber. You can't run a 180gr bullet in the 7-08 SAAMI chamber and the SAAMI twist of 9.5 is too slow for the heaviest 7mm bullets. And the freebore of the 7-08 is about half that of the 6.5. Remington basically assured you cannot run anything heavier than 160s effectively.
      If you don't want/need the heaviest bullets in the caliber, it's really tough to beat a 7-08. I prefer the modernity of the 6.5, as I feel these features outweigh any tiny detriment of muzzle energy. And the 160gr bullets in 6.5 have no counterpart in 7mm (nothing with SD as high). A Woodleigh weldcore at 160gr in 6.5 is a beast of penetration!

    • @Leverguns50
      @Leverguns50 4 года назад +3

      G5 sounds like you’ve studied it out pretty well, when it comes to modern firearms I’m pretty sure you’re right. personally I feel like flat point bullets do a better job on killing , they sure do have bigger entrance wounds, just shot a deer last week with my 348 at my normal range 44 yards it dropped like a rock, I was using 180 grain flat point bullet at 2700 feet a second

    • @Leverguns50
      @Leverguns50 4 года назад

      joe doe wonder what is barrel life is on one of those? I know if you let a barrel get hot it loses its
      wear resistant, and start erode away more rapidly

    • @Leverguns50
      @Leverguns50 4 года назад

      joe doe Sounds like a good round to me👍

  • @MarAgt
    @MarAgt 4 года назад +7

    Love my 7mm-08. It’s my go to gun these days.

  • @NorthwoodsNomad
    @NorthwoodsNomad 4 года назад +3

    Great video 👍 I didn’t see anything in the description below , and I didn’t hear any mention of the rifles used here . Just curious if the barrel lengths were the same , and I would like to point out that the ballistics advertised on the box of ammo reflect muzzle velocities from a 24” barrel ( typically for most standard cartridges ) So , I would attribute the respective averages of 2713 fps/6.5 CM and 2771 fps / 7mm-08 to account for a lesser muzzle velocity due to a shorter 22” sporterized barrel more so than the cold weather itself .
    Regardless, I would choose the 7mm-08 over the 6.5 CM ( for all practical & ethical hunting purposes ) I’m rather partial to the 7mm caliber anyhow, and with that being said , I’ll stick to my .280 Remington, it does everything I need it to do ... not to mention that it sends those 140 grain pills between 3,000 fps - 3,050 fps and allows me to to utilize much heavier 165 - 175 grain bullets if necessary , for pursuing elk sized game ( or that angry grizzly lol 😂) when needed .

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Savage 116 and Remington 700 22" barrels. Im sure i put it in the video but my bad for not making it more clear. I appreciate the feedback.
      Agreed the barrel length was probably more of a factor than the cold, but if you look at some of my other 6.5 Creedmoor videos, it often gets more than advertised velocity in this barrel.
      I'm just surprised it's this close to box velocities the cold and given the barrel lengths.
      I agree that I'd take the 7mm-08 over the 6.5 Creedmoor but for dinne ccx reasons i now own 2 6.5 Creedmoor's and im thinking about building an 18" ar10 battle rifle version

  • @BrassJeep
    @BrassJeep 4 года назад +38

    I don’t understand why everyone hates on the fusion ammo, as most things in life you get what you pay for, and the fusion is about the cheapest bonded ammo you can buy. For medium and up game bonded is far superior than non bonded.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +4

      I think my test proved it to be very a nice choice. I was wrong about it.
      It doesn't feed well in semi auto ar10s in my experience, but for a bolt gun, it's not bad. Thanks for watching and your comment.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 4 года назад +4

      The fusion bullets haven't been accurate in any of my rifles. They'll probably work fine if I don't have to shoot past 200 yards. None of my rifles shoot moa with federal fusion though. I tried them in 7 rem mag, 708, 270, 6.5cm and others. I normally load my own or buy hornady precision hunter.

    • @nathanmanley4203
      @nathanmanley4203 4 года назад

      For inexpensive bonded I prefer Remington corelock

    • @BrassJeep
      @BrassJeep 4 года назад +5

      Nathan Manley I defiantly agree that Remington core-Lokt is great inexpensive ammo, but you have to get there premium core-Lokt bonded to get a bonded bullet, which is still more expensive and much harder to find than Fusion. My #1 go to for factory ammo is Norma Oryx at twice the price per round than Fusion, but I also would prefer to load my own. I’m just saying that for what Fusion is, and the price you can buy it for, its not that bad.

    • @SW737Flyer
      @SW737Flyer 4 года назад +1

      Fusion, by far, was the most accurate out of my Tikka T3 Lite in .338 Federal. I bought a bunch in fear in may be hard to locate in the future.

  • @TheBamayaker
    @TheBamayaker 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for enduring the harsh elements to bring us these great comparisons. Your channel does it best!

  • @TJMurry
    @TJMurry 4 года назад +4

    My first hunting rifle was a Remington 788 in 7mm-08. Have killed lots of pronghorn, whitetail, and mule deer with one. Love the caliber so much I recently bought another.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      That's awesome. Glad you love that caliber. I have two 6.5s and a 7mm08. Love them both

  • @SW737Flyer
    @SW737Flyer 4 года назад +4

    I love both of these calibers. But, because of the insane popularity now of 6.5 CM, and the ballistic comparison just too close (testing at 500-700 yards would be far more telling), I would have to give the nod to 6.5 CM due to availability. At my local Walmart (a good litmus test), there were only 2 boxes of 7mm-08 (Reming Core Lokt) while there was an entire shelf of 6.5 CM ranging from 129 gr. up to 147 gr with several manufacturers represented and rounds for match shooting to hunting. So, while I was searching for an "in stock" bolt gun to purchase chambered in 7mm-08 around Christmas, I found none! 6.5 CM, however, was in stock in every single manufacturers available bolt. There's a lot to be said about availability.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Availability is an issue. My local cabelas has a lot of both

    • @vinpribek3903
      @vinpribek3903 4 года назад +2

      Sometimes the one not available is more popular and sold out.

  • @MrCharley201
    @MrCharley201 4 года назад +8

    Good video. I would like to see you do this test on the 300WSM.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      I don't have access to a rifle in that caliber right now...

  • @davidcheek2083
    @davidcheek2083 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love checking out your old videos!!! Hope all is well

  • @Whiteghostkennels
    @Whiteghostkennels Год назад +3

    I never was a big fan of the federal fusion myself until I tried it it’s awesome round performs good on game and holds together
    Good video

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  Год назад +1

      Thank you. Wish it shot better in my 6.5 prc

    • @Whiteghostkennels
      @Whiteghostkennels Год назад +2

      I would try to hand load them they shoot better, have you ever tested the grand slams I’ve wondered how they would shoot and perform they seem like a good bullet from what I’ve heard

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  Год назад +1

      I've not tested the grand slams

  • @jlaurcrocker
    @jlaurcrocker Год назад +2

    Just bought a Tikka Hunter in 7mm-08 as my hopeful go-to for deer. This video was a cool comparison. Def easier to find ammo for the 6.5 currently, but I decided to hold out to get what i wanted instead of buying creedmore. My dad shot 7mm-08 for deer often with great sucess... ballistics aside, my purchase felt like a nod to heritage. Id like to see the test with proper gel set up.

  • @gotsomasafaris2494
    @gotsomasafaris2494 4 года назад +6

    I use my 7mm-08 in South Africa and it is an amazing caliber

  • @Needagoodnamebutcantthinkofone
    @Needagoodnamebutcantthinkofone 3 года назад +1

    Just this video made me subscribe, I'm from NEPA where we get cold even negatives, then again I'm sure our negative is closer to your spring weather, keep on keepin on!!!!

  • @brianyoung5204
    @brianyoung5204 4 года назад +3

    I own a 7-08 shot 11 mule deer one pronghorn 1 oryx 1barbary sheep at 650 yards 5 elk one at 689 yards and lots of coyotes my son shot a white tail and a cow elk this year with it. 140 grain is my go too big game bullet I haven’t played with it enough for coyote but I’m sure there is a load out there ! All I can say is it works and honestly if I’d had a 6.5 instead I’d probly figured out the right load and been just as happy thank you

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Thank you. That's quite a lot if accomplishments! Good hunting!

    • @brianyoung5204
      @brianyoung5204 4 года назад +1

      Thank you good luck out there as well

  • @vinpribek3903
    @vinpribek3903 4 года назад +3

    I have a Kimber Montana 84M in 7mm-08 I bought years ago. I had to wait 6 months for it as they had just started putting them out and mine has the original 2 position safety. My research on the 7mm-08 showed me it would be the perfect whitetail round and could even take game as large as Elk if needed. It has become my most used hunting rifle out of the dozen I have in everything from .22 to .375 H&H. The 6.5 Creedmoor will not do anything better than the 7mm-08 under 500 yards. Beyond that it has some advantages, but I would never shoot at an animal beyond 500 yards, so I have no intention of buying one. I like the 6.5x55 Swede round and if I didn't have a good whitetail rifle right now, I might go with a 6.5 Creedmoor. That's what I love about rifles. Many tools available for many different jobs.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      The 7mm-08 is an awesome cartridge. That kimber sure would be nice to carry!
      Godspeed Good hunting!

  • @SW737Flyer
    @SW737Flyer 4 года назад +3

    I want to throw out other thoughts to ponder. I live in Florida. PRS is all the rage and winter is our shooting season (it's dry and 70 degrees). So, rifles chambered in 6.5 CM are outselling all the other calibers (save .308) combined. As I mentioned earlier, 6.5 CM ammo is everywhere. Tons of choices in bullet weights, manufacturers and price. Here in Florida, we mostly hunt whitetail deer and wild hogs. Personally, I hunt midwest whitetails but enjoy Florida hog hunting. ONE major advantage to 6.5 CM over 7mm-08 is the ability to have multiple platforms shoot the same cartridge. You can own a highly accurate bolt action for your big game deer needs, then, also own an AR10 Platform in 6.5 CM with 20 round mags with high rates of fire for going out on those wild hog hunts using drives. Most of that type of hunting is high speed running shots. The ability to lay down a higher rate of fire is not only desirable, it's almost required. Since 6.5 CM's popularity explosion, numerous manufacturers are chambering AR's for 6.5. I haven't seen any 7mm-08's in the AR platform.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      7mm-08 AR-10s exist. They used to be made but i think they're mostly custom build these days. Both Rounds are equally available in ammo here.
      But i see your point and have fun on those hogs

    • @gsxr1189
      @gsxr1189 4 года назад +2

      Christensen Arms releases reports of rifle sales by caliber about twice a year and over the past 2 years their 6.5cm rifle's have outsold their 308's by about 6 to 1 on average and have outsold all other calibers combined. Basically 6.5cm has dethroned 308 as America's standard go to full size rifle caliber.

  • @doghousedon1
    @doghousedon1 4 года назад +4

    I too shoot both. The 6.5 is a fine cartridge. But that 7-08 is a real sleeper! It would be more popular than the Creed if people knew about. Thanks for the vid.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      I think a lot of people know about the 7mm-08. It sells out here before the creedmoor

    • @doghousedon1
      @doghousedon1 2 года назад +1

      @@AlaskanBallistics So 7-08 shooters don't sit on the fence and crow about it? They just smile, grab their rifle, and go hunting? Now I get it.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  2 года назад

      LoL that's exactly what I do with my 6.5

    • @doghousedon1
      @doghousedon1 Год назад +1

      I'd like to see you run this test again at their maximum point blank ranges. Which should come in at around 300 yards or so. And for kicks toss in the 243. I'm finding, after shooting the 243, 6.5 CM, and 7-08, that the 6.5 is superfluous. The 7 will launch a higher BC bullet at a higher velocity than the 6.5, and the 243 smokes the 6.5 in recoil. The 6.5's PBR isn't any better either. I love the 6.5, but it doesn't bring anything to the table for me.

  • @timclaus8313
    @timclaus8313 3 года назад +4

    Interesting to see performance in very cold wether. Most of these kinds of videos seem to be done under good wether conditions, but when hunting at higher elevations, cold is pretty common. Along with hunting seasons for deer and elk in the northern states.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад

      Thank you for watching! My buddy i borrowed the 7mm-08 from didn't think I was coming to get it that morning

  • @wwdiesel
    @wwdiesel 3 года назад +5

    7mm08 definitely hands down. Remington Model 7, short action, lightweight to tote all day, and very powerful, a hunters dream. My rifle of choice and I have many other calibers to choose from.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      Nice! I wish i could find a model 7

    • @wwdiesel
      @wwdiesel 3 года назад +1

      @@AlaskanBallistics I got one and love it; stainless steel with factory gray composite stock & silver 4X12 scope.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      Nice! I love my Creedmoor's but if target have a 7mm-08 for hunting because of the wider bullet selection. It's a ruger American compact for my son. A model 7 would be awesome

  • @clapton924
    @clapton924 3 года назад +4

    I'd love to see some more videos with bonded bullets. Particularly with weight retention info. I enjoy your videos. Thanks

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      I'm putting retention numbers on all my newer videos

  • @bigbasscatcher86
    @bigbasscatcher86 4 года назад +8

    Looks like the fusion did a pretty good job. I wouldn't be afraid to hunt with it.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Not at all... i liked it a lot...

    • @rickymartin7196
      @rickymartin7196 4 года назад

      I shot a nice 8 pt 170 lbs good deer for SC, using 95gr Federal Fusion,.243 approx. 50yd shot bullet penetrated both shoulders

    • @robertlivingston1634
      @robertlivingston1634 4 года назад +2

      @@rickymartin7196 good job but my daughter used the same bullet at 150 yard's with a good double lung shot and the bullet didn't exit. I realize a lot of people love the 243 but I think it's just a little light for deer and I've shot a lot of deer with it up to 185 lbs, but she wanted something bigger and now she's sporting a new 7mm08 and love's it.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Well I'm glad she likes the 7mm08 and I'm glad you realize that bullets that make it all the way through are better!! Explaining that to people has been a challenge to day it nicely.

  • @Calaveras32Spcl
    @Calaveras32Spcl 3 года назад +3

    Would love to see a summer video. As for the short action vs video, this is great. Both seem like they would be good Continental 48 deer rounds.

  • @TheTruth-sd8ey
    @TheTruth-sd8ey 3 года назад +1

    7mm ftw! Great video! You deserve more subscribers, this is a great channel.

  • @randlerichardson5826
    @randlerichardson5826 4 года назад +8

    I thank it would’ve still went deep as it did the 7mm-08 yeah I’d like to see that video in the summer time GOD BLESS

  • @scottf.3808
    @scottf.3808 4 года назад +3

    Nice testing and results....Glad you found both bullets....Nice job battling the cold....Longer range distance would be nice....Good stuff....

  • @Bigfish1day
    @Bigfish1day 4 года назад +3

    Damn I wish 7mm-08 was readily available. 6.5 Creedmoore has taken over where I stay. I have a .308 but been wanting 7-08 for a very long time. How is recoil between the two?

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Minimum difference. Slightly more in 7mm-08

    • @Bigfish1day
      @Bigfish1day 4 года назад

      @@AlaskanBallistics How is recoil on 7mm-08 vs .308. May just get 7mm-08 and order what I need for ammo.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +2

      @@Bigfish1day .308 definitely kicks more with heavier bullets. If you're going light like 125gr, doesn't matter. 140gr 7mm-08 vs 150gr .308 the 7mm-08 is better.

  • @mitchellnelms7572
    @mitchellnelms7572 2 года назад +2

    Try adding a bottle of cheap vodka to your gel after you take it off the heat. Don't add the vodka during the boil and make sure you reduce the same amount of water. That should, theoretically, prevent the gel from freezing. Also, it may make the gel clearer, too.

  • @snipereagleeye7050
    @snipereagleeye7050 4 года назад +4

    I have a 6.5 creedmoor an a 7mm08 and i love them both!!! pick them over a 308 cuz i was a 308 shooter for years n them other to cals are way better

  • @280AI
    @280AI Год назад +2

    Another very enjoyable video.
    To my eyes these two calibres are so close in comparison it would be hard to choose one over the other at practical hunting ranges. Thanks

  • @MatteoTorgy
    @MatteoTorgy 4 года назад +6

    I'm currently deciding between rifles in these chamberings and I've done quite a bit of research on both cartridges. I understand the ballistic chart advantage of the 7mm-08, but I've been starting to understand the design advantage of the 6.5 CM's bullet. While the 7mm-08 enjoys a surface area advantage, that advantage seems to be quickly nullified at the point of impact. The longer projectile of the 6.5mm CM would, logically, seem to allow for greater expansion and penetration (sectional density). Your video actually supports that theory in showing the greater expansion of the 6.5 CM. If my life was on the line and I had to choose between these two cartridges, I'd choose the 6.5. It just seems to perform above its weight extremely well. And it appears there is a huge advantage in ammo selection for the 6.5, and it's about 20- to 30-percent cheaper than the same ammo in 7mm-08. Just my two cents. I really don't think one could go wrong with either one. I'm thinking I'm going to get a rifle in 6.5.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +2

      I totally agree with your assessment

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +2

      I killed a caribou last weekend with the 6.5 creedmoor. 282 yards. I shot. Barnes 127gr lrx sledgehammered her.

  • @fuzzy883
    @fuzzy883 3 года назад +1

    I own a Rem 700 CDL SF in a Bell and Carlson stock chambered in 7mm-08.. It has become my favorite ever rifle, even after being a magnum guy for decades. The light recoil and short action make it a dream to shoot and it is super accurate .... I can ring the gong at 600 yards all day long. What really had me falling in love was where you can push the 08 to when reloading 150 grain high bc bullets. I get 2875 fps without any pressure signs and without going over book recommendations. I use StaBall 6.5 which is absolute magic with this combination. Accubond LR 150 grain bullets are still running at 2100 fps at 500 yards with 1500 foot pounds of energy. And all this from a little nudge to the shoulder. I used to never considered the 08 to be a 500 yard deer killer ... but it is. I chuckle at how many hunters still consider it a lady's or kid's gun. From my experience is kills elk very efficiently and is almost too much for deer when using the 150 grain AB LR bullets, as they make massive wounds if you hit the shoulder (so I pick lungs if I can). Here is a final thought for the magnum crowd ... it takes a 40% increase in powder in a 7mm Rem Mag, to get a 9% increase in velocity over the 7mm-08. For me, the extra weight and recoil just aren't worth it since I will never shoot at a deer over 500 yards ... I find no need to suffer the added recoil and cost.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      That's a fair assessment. What load are you using with staball 6.5?

    • @fuzzy883
      @fuzzy883 3 года назад +1

      I use 49.5 grauns. I used to own a Rem 700 SPS which got me 2950 fps, which was shockingly fast, so there is obviously a great range with this load from rifle to rifle.

    • @wes326
      @wes326 Год назад +1

      A 9% increase in velocity does translate, roughly, to an 18% increase in power. IMHO, that would be a better comparison.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  Год назад

      Power defined as? Ft lbs of energy?

    • @wes326
      @wes326 Год назад

      @@AlaskanBallistics Yes.

  • @SteveBl
    @SteveBl 4 года назад +4

    I’m a bit late to the party here, but it’s amazing how folks will fight over calibers, especially these twin sisters. Practically, there’s no difference! I’ve used a .260 Remington and 7mm-08. No difference between them in the field whatsoever. The 6.5 Creedmoor might have more choices in rifles today. Around here, there’s more ammunition availability with the Creedmoor too. We certainly didn’t need the 6.5 Creedmoor, but we have it. It’s nice to have choices.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Yep i line both calibers and own both

    • @outdoorbasicslevel1825
      @outdoorbasicslevel1825 4 года назад

      Both are good period lot of choices pic one . Deer 25-06 6.5 crd, 243, 270, 308, 260, under 300 yrds hard to figure . 500 yrds all start to change 600 yrds wind drift and bc . Under 600 Don't think to hard .

  • @jackb1888
    @jackb1888 2 года назад +1

    Currently going down to 1 cartridge for my deer hunting struggling to pick between the 2,
    I don't reload but the 7mm08 extra energy to take big deer species might wing it for me

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  2 года назад

      Put the correct bullet in the right spot he won't know the difference. I've not seen factory 7mm-08 in my area in a while. So if you don't reload don't feel bad with whatever caliber you can find on the shelf

  • @jimandpeggybishop4749
    @jimandpeggybishop4749 4 года назад +9

    7mm 08 120 gr Barnes TTSX, 44 gr Varget .

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Sounds like a great load

    • @matts4852
      @matts4852 4 года назад

      I love the 120gr ttsx for in my model 7 and encore, no need for 140gr for pa whitetails

  • @johnnorman7708
    @johnnorman7708 3 года назад +1

    Are those Fusion bullets the same as Speer Gold Dot? I am assuming they both are an electroplated lead of identical process.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад

      They're close but i believe even better bonded than the gold dots

  • @martinfernandez5005
    @martinfernandez5005 4 года назад +4

    I like the 7mm08 but the 6.5 will out penitrate if shot into a tree 12 " around or 12" beam. Smaller bore, equal velosity and same gr = more penitration, 6.5.

  • @sgro4704
    @sgro4704 2 года назад +1

    which would be better for short range white tail? 50-100 yard shots

  • @denisleblanc4506
    @denisleblanc4506 4 года назад +4

    Its funny how the 7mm-08 was considered a youth or women caliber for decades while the 6.5 Creed is touted to be a soft shooting caliber. I chose the 7mm-08 in the 80's because I wanted a light rifle that would be less punishing and allow me to practice more. It's killed deer and moose with no problems. I do limit myself to good shots on moose and keep them under 250 yards. I do wish they would load some 160's for it though. I had to reload mine and they work great. With the newest powders they could easily load them to over 2700 and it would be all you would need for moose. Wishful thinking though as everybody is jumping on the 6.5 Creed bandwagon.

  • @travismassengale4923
    @travismassengale4923 3 года назад +1

    I know you probably get this question all the time. But if I'm using an 18in Barrel 308 what round would you recommend for big black bears??

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      All copper ballistic tips... check out my 6.5 vs .308 in 18" barrel video

  • @Diemerstein
    @Diemerstein 4 года назад +6

    I would pick the 6.5 creedmoor, not saying the 7mm isn't a good round, but many people looking at these 6.5 vs. what ever forget one very import fact about the 6.5 and that it's a long range round.
    The 6.5 is one of the most efficient bullets available for the general mass, sure the 7mm will have an edge in speed at the muzzle, but who the hell shoots deer at the muzzle?
    Go ahead and see what the speed is for both of these rounds at say 500 yards.....yeah, that creedmoor will not loose speed like the 7mm, that creedmoor at 500 yards will hit with more energy and do more damage than the 7mm.

    • @MarAgt
      @MarAgt 3 года назад +7

      Per the Federal website for the exact 140 grain Federal Fusion rounds they shot for the test.
      6.5 V=1796 E=1003
      7mm V=1791 E=997
      While you’re right at 500 yds 6.5mm creeps by the 7mm-08, the differences of 5 fps and 6 lbs of energy would be imperceptible to either a shooter or an animal. At all distances up to 500 yds, 7mm-08 has more energy and more velocity.
      The average hunter will never shoot any animal at 500 yds. I gather from your post you are likely above average and therefore the exception.
      That being said, both will kill DRT most all game at ethical hunting distances. Considering the loss of energy at 500 yds in both rounds, it would probably be wise to move up to a
      different round if a hunter is routinely or even occasionally hunting beyond 500 yds.

  • @thesheepman220
    @thesheepman220 4 года назад +7

    Well if want the newest get a creedmore if you want something thats been around for a while get 7mm08 nothing in it really or just a get a 30-06 end of, thanks atvb Steve

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +2

      30-06 for Alaska

    • @luketilley9137
      @luketilley9137 4 года назад +3

      260 Remington is the same thing as the 6.5 and it's been around longer than the 7mm-08

    • @thesheepman220
      @thesheepman220 4 года назад +2

      Luke Tilley 260 rem is a undrated round I’ll stick with my 264 win mag

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 4 года назад +5

    7mm-08 is a very nice cartridge -- the 308 case is better suited to a 284 bullet than a 308 bullet (and better than a 264 bullet -- which is pretty close to what the 6.5 CM, a 308 necked down to 264). 284 is a real "sweet spot" both ballistically and in terms of recoil, when pushed at reasonable speeds.

  • @semiauto3148
    @semiauto3148 4 года назад +2

    How about a comparison between the 7mm-08 vs the .308.

  • @hmongbc9045
    @hmongbc9045 4 года назад +3

    Just wondering will it take down a moose with 7mm-08???

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Probably

    • @hunterman505
      @hunterman505 4 года назад +1

      If a 243 can than that 7mm08 have no problem as will.. and yes it can

  • @charlesgutzwiller3353
    @charlesgutzwiller3353 4 года назад +2

    Both are great calibers great accurate projectiles good test

  • @cjaneAlaska
    @cjaneAlaska 4 года назад +65

    Killed my moose with a savage 7mm-08 youth model. (Cause I’m a short girl) it’s a great gun. Nice flat shooting round

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +5

      Nothing wrong with a 7mm-08 thanks for watching!

    • @doghousedon1
      @doghousedon1 4 года назад +8

      My daughter uses the 7-08 in Montana for deer and elk and absolutely loves it. And she converted me. The 6.5CM is a dandy cartridge but the 7 beats it as a hunting round.

    • @jimenagulla9081
      @jimenagulla9081 4 года назад +1

      @GastonGross thats weird because my 6.5x55 has killed well over a dozen deer and it works just as good as my 06 did, strange......

    • @NormalCredit-21
      @NormalCredit-21 4 года назад +1

      @@jimenagulla9081 the 6.5 creedmoor case dimensions fall short, at 6.5x48mm against the 6.5 swedes.

    • @jimenagulla9081
      @jimenagulla9081 4 года назад +1

      @GastonGross sure Gaston, it's ok if your experiences differ, but if 20 thousands of an inch make such a big difference that's strange, and blah blah blah.....

  • @ZeroBoostBuick
    @ZeroBoostBuick 4 года назад +1

    You guys are badass for filming in those temperatures.
    I shoot all year around and I don't mind -10 f,.. but I wouldn't be filming in that freezer.

  • @mrmatt7210
    @mrmatt7210 4 года назад +3

    Two thumbs up for sharing in your video that the 7-08 failed to pass through the same thickness of meat as the 6.5 creedmoor did.
    Which is better? In my opinion, at the distance which these two bullets were tested, I would say it was pretty much a draw.
    Not to pick these two cartridges apart, but if I had to choose a winner (based on the video results) i would have chosen the 6.5.
    To be clear, the 6.5 penetrated to the same apx depth (or possibly more if you add the missed meat from the 7-08) while expanding to a greater diameter. If this wasn't enough to call the 6.5 the winner, I might add its performance level was nearly identical with less recoil. There is so much to like about both of these cartridges that I would be tempted to buy whichever I could find the best deal on. Thanks for another good video.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Thank you. Yeah 7mm-08 for handloaders you can get heavier bullets and a better selection of bullets throughout a range of weights, while still being less recoil than a 308. That being said i own 2 6.5 creedmoor's

  • @jamespmullin21753
    @jamespmullin21753 2 года назад +1

    Why is the 260 Remington mu ch less popular than the 6.5 Creedmore?

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  2 года назад

      Marketing. Target Shooters love the better designed casing target than a necked down .308 casing. Better shoulder angle, consistent neck with

  • @luketilley9137
    @luketilley9137 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for comparing these 2. I have never been a 6.5 creedmore fan. Guess 260 Remington dosen't sound as cool??? In my opinion, I can solve everyone's problem. Just get you a 1:14 twist barrel for your 308, 150gr bullet @ 3,000fps. Problem solved. No more need for a creedmore. Just my opinion! Stay Safe Brother and GOD Bless!🙏🇺🇸

  • @jussi6905
    @jussi6905 3 года назад +1

    is the 9,3mm used in alaska or is it only north europe thing, i love my 9,3*62 mauser

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +1

      Only northern Europe. No one makes guns for that caliber here.

  • @mikemagnum7987
    @mikemagnum7987 4 года назад +5

    With this comparison, and both cartridges using 140 grain factory cartridges and the same bullet type, both make good medium game cartridges... Myself, I'll stick with my 7mm-08. The Federal fusion is a damn good all around bullet if a guy is stuck with factory loads only! I think that both cartridges suffered a lack of velocity due to the temperature, so a re-do might be worth while when it warms up.
    The 6.5 does have a place in the hunting fields if used within the realm of intelligent ballistic capability, as any cartridge should be when hunting big or medium game. I just don't have any use for a cartridge that is hyped up to be something that it simply isn't and cannot be, regardless what the "infinite wisdom" that comes out of Hornady's marketing department might have to say... The 6.5 C. is first and foremost, a target round. That it can also be used to hunt some medium sized "big" game is acceptable so long as it's used within the confines of what the cartridge is truly capable of! I do not consider it a viable cartridge for Elk... I would also not use my 7mm-08 for Elk, since I also have a .30 caliber magnum that is setup with hand loads expressly developed for larger game such as Elk or moose and large bear.
    Hunters should also be cautious about considering "kinetic energy" figures as the ultimate guide to what a particular bullet is capable of! Kinetic energy is simply a "mass in motion" and does not take into account within the terminal ballistic equation; high rotational spin of the bullet upon impact, violent expansion of the bullet on impact and the secondary projectiles created along with the energy those contain/shock waves etc. When that bullet hits bone, it further complicates that problem!

  • @rodneyturner3197
    @rodneyturner3197 3 года назад +1

    Your opinions on 6.5 creedmore on white tail deer

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад

      It'll be just fine. Just use a well constructed bullet that expands but stays together. I killed a nice cow caribou at 282 yards with my 24" bergara hmr.
      I absolutely love the barnes lrx 127gr

  • @TommyboyGTP
    @TommyboyGTP 4 года назад +7

    6.5 Creedmoor is offered in lighter varmint rounds too so it's pretty versatile and shoots flatter for longer shots. 7mm-08 seems to be better suited for larger game, but i'd like to see more testing at distance, say 100 yards or so.

  • @MrRdvs87
    @MrRdvs87 4 года назад +1

    What weight is optimal for those calibers? I usually see dudes running 129’s in the creedmoor. I know little about the 7mm08 beyond really basic stuff. I’m eventually going to want a rifle that’s going to be used for deer, with the occasional black bear and the rare elk. I know creedmoor can do it, but this makes me want to revisit the 7mm08 and his other video makes me consider the .270 again too.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +2

      I took down a big cow caribou with a 6.5 creedmoor 127gr barnes LRX at 282 yards. It sledgehammered her. So yes they'll all do it.
      For 6.5 as a hunting round anything between 120 and 140 will be fine so long as it shoots wellin your rifle.
      140 is about ideal for 7mm08
      130 to 50 for .270.
      They'll all work

    • @MrRdvs87
      @MrRdvs87 4 года назад +1

      I forget what length the creedmoor I want is.

  • @omarpadilla2470
    @omarpadilla2470 4 года назад +3

    I just put a Savage axis 7mm 08 on layaway, yesterday.

  • @311hitwall
    @311hitwall 4 года назад +1

    If you were only going to shoot whitetail at less than 400 yards does it matter which one?

  • @williamsain8174
    @williamsain8174 4 года назад +3

    I'll take the 7mm 08 . Just haven't been able to get on board with the 6.5 Creedmoor although I am a huge 270 Winchester fan and certain weight bullets have similar ballistics at extended ranges however the 270 has been around since 1925 so not completely impressed with the new craze

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      They're all good calibers. Thanks for watching and commenting...

  • @ToddTheGunGuy
    @ToddTheGunGuy 4 года назад +2

    Kudos to you brother for getting out in sub zero. 36 in Ohio today. Was a killer review and some sweet hardware. Thx🤙🤙

  • @biggun4557
    @biggun4557 4 года назад +10

    The 7mm-08 is the superior round the one down side is at 1000 yards the 7-08 drops 10 inches more than the 6.5

    • @outdoorbasicslevel1825
      @outdoorbasicslevel1825 4 года назад

      Factory ammo comparison is not apples to apples. I get 147 with bc of 0.697 at 2700 due the numbers.

    • @GlennPearsonDIY
      @GlennPearsonDIY 4 года назад +2

      @@outdoorbasicslevel1825 Handloading is not apples to apples either. I load my 7mm-08 with 162gr ELD-x with a BC of .630, going 2790fps, do the numbers. Beats your 147gr target ELD bullet (that I wouldn't use for hunting) all day at 500 yards (and beyond, and smashes it at closer distances). By 200lbs of energy...

    • @alexjordan6371
      @alexjordan6371 4 года назад

      More drop but less drift. Drift is more important than drop.

    • @scottjorgenson2892
      @scottjorgenson2892 4 года назад

      No we shoot 150 grain and it will lay waste to 6.5

  • @brandonkiesser8271
    @brandonkiesser8271 3 года назад +1

    Heck ya keep um coming. It's very helpful.

  • @blacksand9805
    @blacksand9805 3 года назад +8

    The main difference between these 2 is the recoil. 7-08 kicks roughly the same as the .308 winchester. The 6.5 CM recoil is the same as a 7-08 equiped with a muzzle brake

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +4

      When you're wearing thick winter clothing... you can't tell a difference

  • @markr5132
    @markr5132 2 года назад +2

    Just bought a 6.5 CM several months ago and almost sold it as 7mm is a little stronger for a short action. Just love the balance it strikes. 6.5 is not close and better for ultra long range, with ammo availibility that I'll keep it but that 7-08 is a real sweet spot for efficiency and capability I feel cheated that I can't justify having both!

  • @idaho2ndgens240
    @idaho2ndgens240 4 года назад +3

    Nice bullet expansion(frontal area) I'd say with the Creedmoor and the 7mm-08. Not substantially more penetration and the pork ribs media is not real consistent for testing.
    Bullet performance is relative to velocity and construction and longer ranges (different velocities) will show a bullets expansion capabilities. I would expect similar bullet performance at identical velocities. Good to see the lead attached to the petals like that, bonded as it holds its retained weight. The 7mm-08 should be better at a slightly longer distance for expansion. My wife has killed big horn sheep, mule deer, whitetail and moose with her Creedmoor, all deader than a door nail with one shot using 140 grain. Longest shot was 315 yards.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      I totally agree the pork media was basically too supply some extra sliwing down to catch the bullets. Good input and thanks For the comment. Godspeed, fight red flag laws and Jerry Epstein didn't kill himself.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      And congrats to you and your wife on the game well taken!

  • @Wheelchair-bear
    @Wheelchair-bear Год назад +2

    I would definitely like to see you shoot a pork loin at 500 yards ;-) I recently got a Labradar, so far I'm not having much luck with it.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  Год назад +2

      Interesting. The guy at the range next to me the other day loved his

  • @johnkizziah108
    @johnkizziah108 4 года назад +4

    7mm08 is another wonderful caliber. I have a nice old Remington mountain rifle in 7x57 one of my fave hunting rifles have taken a couple nice bull elk with it. My son says when it grows up it will be a 7mm mag..dang brat kid

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      I love my 7mm Rem mag too now. Great up here in Alaska

    • @billfrederickfrederick2791
      @billfrederickfrederick2791 4 года назад

      The much older 7x57 can be loaded to beat the 7mm08 , why reinvent the wheel ?

    • @johnkizziah108
      @johnkizziah108 4 года назад +1

      @@billfrederickfrederick2791 yes sir 7x57 is a wonderful old caliber. Actually if ya think about it a 7mm08 is technically a 7x51

  • @Jeff-mo5gc
    @Jeff-mo5gc 2 года назад +2

    I’ve been looking at Buying a CVA cascade in 7MM -08 as a “Hunting rifle for my wife” thank you so much for making this video. I guess I’m going to the dark side. 6.5 Creed it is.
    One question how often do you guys see the northern lights up there? I’ve only seen solar-flares ounce in my life while working as a Canoe guide in MN. It was way more of a religious experience then I thought. You guys should do a podcast on the realities of living in Alaska. It’s getting to crowded here in Texas. I know you guys hate lower 48’s but would love to here your guys thoughts on life up there etc.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  2 года назад +1

      We probably see the northern lights, once to twice every winter. More often if you go searching for them. Living in Alaska in suburbia is like living anywhere else, minus shoveling snow

  • @NEPAGUNTALK
    @NEPAGUNTALK 4 года назад +3

    Props to you guys... Great comparison.

  • @blackedoutgrendel3775
    @blackedoutgrendel3775 4 года назад +1

    Not sure if the fusion bullet is same as the gold dot but if it is not it is close. I have shot game with factory fusion 165gr 308 and with handloads with 140gr 6.5 creedmoor. One shot kills on 2 bull elk with the creedmoor and gold dots, very impressed with the results. Also the gold dot 6.5 mushrooms to around .7 in testing which is bigger than many 308 mushrooms. The 165gr gold dot 308 ends up just slightly bigger

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Thanks... i love the real world experience with this comment. Good to know. Thank you.

  • @michaelbowman7558
    @michaelbowman7558 4 года назад +8

    "The gel blowed up!"
    "Yep, It blowed up REAL good!"

  • @jcarry5214
    @jcarry5214 4 года назад +2

    What's really impressing me is the fusion bullets. Did they lose any weight? Makes me want to know what their low range of expansion velocity is. Pretty gnarly.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      I didn't weigh them, but I do that in every video now, maybe I should go back since I have a few of those left in 65 Creedmoor and shoot them again

    • @jcarry5214
      @jcarry5214 4 года назад +1

      @@AlaskanBallistics Might be worth a quickie. I'm partial to the idea of some fragmenting plus a rigid base but how could that be argued with? Might be cool to compare them to accubonds and SST out of the same rifle, 6.5 or not., see if there's an order or fragility or if they're apples to apples.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      @@jcarry5214 it's going to be a while because I'm moving and stuff, but that's a great idea... I've actually got a lot of that ammo for accuracy testing my new 6.5 Bergara HMR.

    • @jcarry5214
      @jcarry5214 4 года назад +1

      @@AlaskanBallistics Cool, look forward to it. The few guys that I've talked to who had bergaras were embarrassed by how much they loved them, especially the HMR.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      Im not embarrassed about living my bergara

  • @randyjohnson6845
    @randyjohnson6845 3 года назад +3

    I have a 7mm08 and a couple of 260 rem encore custom pistol barrels. First I would choose the 260 rem over the 6.5 creedmore. Then I would go 260 rem over the 7mm08. I got the 260 rem about 6 months after Remington released the cartridge in spring 1998.yes guys 23 years ago 260 was doing incredible things. The numbers for ballistics on a 140 grain 6.5 millimeter are almost off the scale. I pulled a 260 Remington bullet and I couldn't believe how long it was.back in the day I took my 15" custom heavy encore pistol and in two days I had consistent .75" 3 round groups at 200 yards.i was using both Remington 140 grain core lock and 140 grain core lock ultra. Core lock ultra are very underrated and there bonded.i assume federal copied the core lock ultra.just as creedmore essentially copied the 260 rem.the difference between the creedmore and 260 rem is almost negligible

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  3 года назад +2

      Yeah I wish Remington had marketed the .260 as well as hornady marketed the creedmoor

  • @bns8594
    @bns8594 4 года назад +1

    Will the 6.5 CM be more comparable if they produce heavier bullets?

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад +1

      They do. And I'd say 100 fps or so is comparable. With the same bullet weight, the 7mm-08 is going to get more speed but less Ballistic Coefficient... 7mm-08 can use some heavy bullets but they cause very high pressures and need fast twist rates in the barrel.

    • @bns8594
      @bns8594 4 года назад +1

      @@AlaskanBallistics thankyou.

    • @AlaskanBallistics
      @AlaskanBallistics  4 года назад

      Thank you for watching and your question