It's because of you that I've learned a lot about EV batteries. Thank you. I'm a volunteer firefighter out of Baltimore county house #36 in Lansdowne .
Having worked for many years as a consultant in Chicago, the water-based sprinkler system might be required by the state or local building codes. I know of many instances where the building codes require exactly the wrong thing because they try to force a one-size-fits-all solution to every situation. I know of one instance where a gas-based sprinkler system extinguished a fire in a data center in Chicago, but as soon as CFD arrived on scene they drenched all the computer equipment with water 'to make certain that the fire was out'. The result was that the damage that was originally estimated to be around $6,500 to replace the burned-up single component turned into a multimillion-dollar bill.
No surprise there. Most Licensed Fire Safety Directors in NYC are retired FDNY, and they're the worst. My erstwhile boss didn't even know we had Halon systems, after over 5 years "working " there. He had never even inspected the basement or mechanical spaces, which had hundreds of gallons of flammables unsafely stored. Owners hire them partly because of ignorance, but mostly because the FDNY doesn't fine their "brothers " for life- threatening violations
I'm a (fmr) software engineer in Chicago. Which 'data center'/building was that. There are (or where) quite a number of data centers in old buildings in The Loop near the CBOT. I went to quite a few of them in the late '00s when all the CBOT/CBOE pits were closing/consolidating. My education is EE, and the amount of power that was being brought into some of these old office buildings to power the racks was insane as companies were scrambling to quickly rent space and convert to "data centers" (I use quotes) as they were pretty ad-hoc setups.
There is no way BioLab should have been located where it was, for what they were doing and dealing with. Much too densely populated an area. Spitting distance from, among other things, a major hospital. The use of this location should have been forestalled after either of the previous 2 fires. As locals we still don't know what was in that cloud? Other than chlorine they refuse to say.
Please keep making EV battery fire videos. Never stop. These videos opened my mind. Before watching them I was about to buy an EV. Your videos educated me. There are so many EV fire incidents covered up in the UK and probably other countries as well. I really do appreciate your effort to make these videos. All the best.
That brings up a ton of questions, from permitting to poor management/handling of materials. Both? Corruption? Incompetence? Unlike the case of EV production, the GA fire isn't from some 'new' chemical/material processing, but rather, pretty basic chemicals. Who knows, maybe they were sourcing some new compounds that have different handling requirements. These kinds of small(ish) manufacturing facilities are scattered throughout the country.
This is one of the reasons the residents of Madison Georgia, 37 miles east of conyers & Bio Lab, fought against the EV battery facility being built there. Madison Georgia is very rural like Conyers was when Bio Lab opened in 1973. I live in between those two locations and grew up in conyers from 1964 to 1980.
Over twenty years ago after much research with assistance of an automotive engineer we put on one of the very first seminars on ev and alternative fueled vehicles. the conclusion of research was this. Some times the best strategy is no attack and to protect the surrounding and let the fire consume the fuel till it's out. That's the way munitions plant fires are delt with but firefighters have a very hard time when It comes to sitting on their hands and watching the show from a distance. C'est la vie
Your comment about the sprinkler system in that building made me pause and consider. Is it possible that a law or regulation requires this kind of sprinkler system in comercial buildings? If so, then these regulations should be reviewed and updated based on the contents of the structure. . .
Another answer to the question, "Why are you, StacheD, covering lithium batteries so much?" is that governments all over the world are mandating lithium batteries be used for more and more things without doing any research.
We currently have a representative from our local fire department giving a talk on lithium batteries handling, storing, hazards, and fire. All of my RC vehicles, my flashlights, power equipment, phones, and more, have batteries. We also recently received a letter about combustibles within the house and attached garage, and their addition to a fire. Hmmmm. How does insurance stand on this? I'll ask.
Thank you for these videos. My dad was a volunteer firefighter for 25yrs and chief for 18 of those. He had to retire recently due to a stroke but I've been raised with a love and respect for the men and women putting their life on the line to protect others. I also love learning so your videos check both boxes. Thank you.
The chemical having a reaction to water was for pool shock, and smells like chlorine so we can guess it's Sodium hypochlorite. The orange/rust in the cloud was, as far as I can tell, a reaction with Sodium hypochlorite.and iron. Basically every molecule of the gas that hits a piece of metal produces a reaction. But I'm no chemist. This must have been a terrorfying experience to be in.
Why the sprinklers in a water reactive location. Could be local building codes, in Anderson IN we had a metal recycling location that processed a lot of magnesium. The facility had its sprinklers shut off. Local fire officials made the facility enable the sprinklers. When the dreaded fire came along, they had to wait for the fire to exhaust all of its magnesium because the sprinklers turned a controllable fire into an uncontrolled inferno before they even arrived. It was an arson fire specifically to challenge the local fire department.
I live 1.5 miles away from the Bio-Lab chemical fire. I could see the smoke from my house. I don't understand why the fire department was putting water on a water reactive chemical. It made the situation worst!
Remember back in 2012ish when they said the price of cells would come down significantly? Its going to be difficult to lower the price when the factories keep burning (this is not the first for them).
@@tonysales3687and how many EV are there compared to ICE vehicles, little fella? How many ICE vehicles spontaneously burst into flames when they're completely turned off , little fella? But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your EVangelical rant! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@brucemitchell5637 There are over 1.2B ICE vs 40m EVs 😂😅can you imagine having 1.2B EVs on the roads worldwide in the next 40 years from now let's say 5% are caught on fire it will spreading quickly to the next EVs very quickly next thing you know the whole cities throughout America will be on fire within a days 😂😅
China Observer channel has an excellent report on this CATL fire with some good fire footage, and goes into the company's personal history with Xi Jinping ... and concerns with the US military. U2oob: giant CATL billows
Imagine how clean and pure our air could be with a lithium battery plant and bio-lab going up in flames in every major city.... ..that toxic smoke is so much better than that tiny bit of CO2 coming out of my little 4 banger gas powered car that the trees can absorb....
What does your car have to do with the bio lab fire ?no one has ever said you have to buy a ev . You can drive your little 4 cyl used car till you die it’s not compulsory to buy a new car . You should be more worried about toxic runoff from that chemical fire 😊
@chrisward5626 people, including some politicians, are advocating for completely phasing out (ban) petrol and diesel vehicles in favour of EVs. This is on the basis that EVs are more environmentally friendly than fossil fuels. However, they don't seem to take into account the environmental impact of mining the minerals required (or child/slave labour involved), the pollution caused during manufacture, the toxic fumes produced during a fire event, the toxic run-off from dealing with said fire (which can get into ground water), or the pollution involved with generating enough electricity to charge huge numbers of EVs. Neither can the batteries, at present, be safely recycled. Now, yes, there is pollution involved in the manufacture, running, and in the event of the burning of an ICE vehicle. I'm no expert, but seems to me that EVs are, at the very least, potentially more harmful to the environment.
There should be limits on the quantity of chemical that can be stored in one place without fire baffles and mitigation, say limited to the amouunt that can burn safely in 12-24 hours. Basically limit on how much of this stuff you can have in one place. Beyond that you should have to have separate storage facilities that are spread far enough away from each other to not effect each other in the case of fire. Call me crazy, but there is zero reason that a fire should ignite the entire stockpile.
These are two different ends of the chain. Li-Ion is ued to store energy, not create it. Coal, LNG, and nuclear are used to generate it. Li-Ion also has a huge carbon footprint when the entire process (mining->transport->processing->battery production) is taken into account. It's all just moving deck chairs on the Titanic. Happy Motoring by other means.
Those smoke plumes are terrifying to see. The pollution and harm done will be staggering. Would be nice if humans could figure this stuff out and not destroy the places will live in.
I live in conyers and it’s been horrendous the last few days. We have a petition to get bio lab out of our community. This is the 4th incident. They shouldn’t be operating near residential areas. And yes it still stinks of swimming pool chlorine. We are still on shelter in place orders from 7p-7am. It was wild being in Walmart and hearing everyone’s phone emergency alerts go off at the same time for the order.
lets not forget Gov gretchen whitmer wants these plants in MI saying how safe they are. She is also taking in nuclear waste from NY that decided to dig up some ancient nuclear waste cause they made a new law not allowing it. Gov Whitmer said we'll take it all, no problem
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Plus all the states running oil sands from Canada thru old pipes made for 'plain old' old&gas. That stuff is abrasive and causes these old pipes to leak into the local environment. Fun.
When i was a kid, i used to take gas and gallons of hairspray into the dry woods and proceed to make 20ft tall fireballs regularly. Now that im middle aged i realize how dangerous fire can be.
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They are not men, but hosts for something else...your close...what should bake your noodle is that both world wars were planned including choosing who wins and who loses, but all 1 unified cult...
There is surprisingly little lithium in a lithium ion battery, and the state of that lithium is literally in the name of the battery technology: it is in the form of ions that travel back and forth between the plates through a semi-permeable membrane. The majority of the nasty metal found in a lithium ion battery is cobalt.
factories and recycling centers that work with lithium batters really should have firewall or fire barrier wall so instead of the whole building, if it's separated into 3 parts then only 1 of the 2 sides would burn which would also contain the fire more
Stache am I the only one who finds it strange that shits been blowing up and catching fire more then normal? No way there’s this many “accidents” at the same time this all happened a trash plant fire in Maine went up been burning for a few days… supposedly gonna go for another. Air quality alert issued today for most of the state.
Didn’t they say the chemical spill in east Palestine wasn’t harmful to the residents around that area even though people are STILL reporting health issues !
lets hope that its just the ether the lithium cobalt or lithium ion part of the factory and not the new-ish LiFePO 4 battery as they allegedly have way higher thermal runaway heat threshold
yeah well they're always "talking up" CATL mostly just REPEATING the rhetoric and propaganda that they've already heard. what never dawns on them is that they DON'T live in China, nor do they read or write Mandarin.
I share your caution on Lithium-ion batteries. The China paranoia is excessive. Not everything in China is a state secret. English-language business papers in Asia all reported the fire four days ago, and since Chineses media report in Chinese, it is pretty easy to miss an event without casualties, because these fires are fairly common in the world's largest EV market.
Lithium contamination is terribly hard to store & maintain saftey as it will filter through anything. If gets into the water table it could be like an entire city or state on a bad trip if it didn't just kill is all out. Gradual brain damage all at once in regions it would be terrible
It’s interesting because it’s almost like for me I’m peaking as myself, like I’d say it feels like a when the player finally defeat world 1 and now thinks the rest will be easy and is all buffed up. But it’s like the life difficulty has gone up lol.
Yes, lithium is a metal that is used in batteries: Lithium batteries These are non-rechargeable batteries that use lithium metal as a primary component. The lithium reacts with other materials in the battery to produce electricity. They are often used in toys, TV remotes, and wrist watches. Lithium-ion batteries These are rechargeable batteries that use lithium compounds, such as lithium iron phosphate or lithium cobalt oxide. The lithium ions move between the positive and negative electrodes to create the charge and discharge cycle. They are used in many personal electronics, such as cell phones, tablets, and laptops. Lithium is a soft, silvery-white metal that is part of the alkali metals group on the periodic table. It reacts vigorously with water.
It is also important to point out that these sorts of resources for terroristic attacks relieve them of having to bring in nukes or chemical gas bombs when they can create the same net effect without harm to their own people or lands. Many sleeper cells are now awaiting and taking orders from entities that pay them through technology that makes their paycheck just one ATM away. Getting their orders to inflame a mountain in California, or to cause an explosion for a big prize is easy in this day and age. Sad, but you are looking at a tiny bit of what is going on with the egg farms, the food chains breaking down, and some who are so powerful they can command and pay for it all from afar. Looks like "just another fire... nothing to see here" but the toxic fallout will be devastating stacked on the other floods and things going on in that part of the country. New storm coming, that all comes to the ground, not a plume above but also below. Who drinks the carncinogens?
Lithium ion hydrogen yield booster… it’s true, some of the largest thermonuclear detonations used it…. Where does the thermo part come from…..just saying.
It starts with the oil and gas as requirement for most processes. Any financial support from that side? Fear mongering. How many homes destroyed buy gas?
How about the fire extinguishers made for EV . The foam that puts out the EV reaction . Very hard to believe that they didn’t have that available and had water sprinklers . Negligence? Incompetent? What?
There are none that are effective at this stage. A fire needs fuel and oxygen, lithium batteries provide both. Foam and water are used to starve the fire of oxygen from surrounding air, lithium batteries don't need it so they continue burning.
"Unlikely " and "most people " are weasel words. The plant owners clearly have too much influence with officials. My former employers installed Halon systems over 35 years ago, just to save equipment, not lives. These bums can't be bothered. Whether this case involves corruption, (I'm betting), or just incompetence, heads must roll, preferably to prison. This is criminal negligence, at the very least
I like how so many 3rd world countries like mine are still so obsessed with trying to increase the sales of EVs even though all the problems are already well known
Remember "most people" defines every human being on this planet. Nothing in comment implies about local people. Play with words. Nice we're having weather...
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Lol how did you make the battery fire in China way more dramatic then the toxic bio lab fire in your own country 🤦♂️
Did I?
@@StacheDTraining You didn't.
he didn't
the severity was treated responsibly and thoughtfully.
@@StacheDTraining NO!! MUST BE A CHINESE BOT :)
Because China bad 🤷♂️
Thank you for talking about this because no one else is.....
It's because of you that I've learned a lot about EV batteries. Thank you. I'm a volunteer firefighter out of Baltimore county house #36 in Lansdowne .
EV = explosive vehicle jkjk but seriously
@@MissyMuthaTruckiN Extremely Volatile 🤪
I think this shit is all planned
Having worked for many years as a consultant in Chicago, the water-based sprinkler system might be required by the state or local building codes.
I know of many instances where the building codes require exactly the wrong thing because they try to force a one-size-fits-all solution to every situation.
I know of one instance where a gas-based sprinkler system extinguished a fire in a data center in Chicago, but as soon as CFD arrived on scene they drenched all the computer equipment with water 'to make certain that the fire was out'.
The result was that the damage that was originally estimated to be around $6,500 to replace the burned-up single component turned into a multimillion-dollar bill.
My father is an architect. He was once forced to add sprinklers to a building directly above a swimming pool. The code guys are out of control.
No surprise there. Most Licensed Fire Safety Directors in NYC are retired FDNY, and they're the worst. My erstwhile boss didn't even know we had Halon systems, after over 5 years "working " there. He had never even inspected the basement or mechanical spaces, which had hundreds of gallons of flammables unsafely stored. Owners hire them partly because of ignorance, but mostly because the FDNY doesn't fine their "brothers " for life- threatening violations
Regulation at its finest.
I'm a (fmr) software engineer in Chicago. Which 'data center'/building was that. There are (or where) quite a number of data centers in old buildings in The Loop near the CBOT. I went to quite a few of them in the late '00s when all the CBOT/CBOE pits were closing/consolidating. My education is EE, and the amount of power that was being brought into some of these old office buildings to power the racks was insane as companies were scrambling to quickly rent space and convert to "data centers" (I use quotes) as they were pretty ad-hoc setups.
There is no way BioLab should have been located where it was, for what they were doing and dealing with. Much too densely populated an area. Spitting distance from, among other things, a major hospital. The use of this location should have been forestalled after either of the previous 2 fires. As locals we still don't know what was in that cloud? Other than chlorine they refuse to say.
That is an impressive zero emission fire.
Who said this is zero emission fire? Or what is point of your comment?
@@MrVolodus Comedy?
@@MrVolodus it's a play on words.
@@corythomas2072 Cunning linguist state of mind
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Please keep making EV battery fire videos. Never stop. These videos opened my mind. Before watching them I was about to buy an EV. Your videos educated me. There are so many EV fire incidents covered up in the UK and probably other countries as well. I really do appreciate your effort to make these videos. All the best.
please follow up on the Georgia chemical factory: was there a permit approved for fire suppression, and was there an inspector that signed off on it.
That brings up a ton of questions, from permitting to poor management/handling of materials. Both? Corruption? Incompetence?
Unlike the case of EV production, the GA fire isn't from some 'new' chemical/material processing, but rather, pretty basic chemicals.
Who knows, maybe they were sourcing some new compounds that have different handling requirements. These kinds of small(ish) manufacturing facilities are scattered throughout the country.
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This is one of the reasons the residents of Madison Georgia, 37 miles east of conyers & Bio Lab, fought against the EV battery facility being built there. Madison Georgia is very rural like Conyers was when Bio Lab opened in 1973. I live in between those two locations and grew up in conyers from 1964 to 1980.
Over twenty years ago after much research with assistance of an automotive engineer we put on one of the very first seminars on ev and alternative fueled vehicles. the conclusion of research was this. Some times the best strategy is no attack and to protect the surrounding and let the fire consume the fuel till it's out. That's the way munitions plant fires are delt with but firefighters have a very hard time when It comes to sitting on their hands and watching the show from a distance.
C'est la vie
Your comment about the sprinkler system in that building made me pause and consider. Is it possible that a law or regulation requires this kind of sprinkler system in comercial buildings? If so, then these regulations should be reviewed and updated based on the contents of the structure. . .
Another answer to the question, "Why are you, StacheD, covering lithium batteries so much?" is that governments all over the world are mandating lithium batteries be used for more and more things without doing any research.
It started with a short presentation to the guys at my station. I continued because there was a need in the fire service to get more information.
Nothing new, this is becoming more and more common.
We currently have a representative from our local fire department giving a talk on lithium batteries handling, storing, hazards, and fire. All of my RC vehicles, my flashlights, power equipment, phones, and more, have batteries. We also recently received a letter about combustibles within the house and attached garage, and their addition to a fire. Hmmmm. How does insurance stand on this? I'll ask.
Thank you for these videos. My dad was a volunteer firefighter for 25yrs and chief for 18 of those. He had to retire recently due to a stroke but I've been raised with a love and respect for the men and women putting their life on the line to protect others. I also love learning so your videos check both boxes. Thank you.
The chemical having a reaction to water was for pool shock, and smells like chlorine so we can guess it's Sodium hypochlorite. The orange/rust in the cloud was, as far as I can tell, a reaction with Sodium hypochlorite.and iron. Basically every molecule of the gas that hits a piece of metal produces a reaction. But I'm no chemist. This must have been a terrorfying experience to be in.
The red smoke sure looks like iron oxide (aka rust). The yellow/green/grey stuff looks nasty AF.
I assume they use Bromine.. It is a hell of an oxidizer AND is that exact color.. DON'T BReath those fumes..
Why the sprinklers in a water reactive location. Could be local building codes, in Anderson IN we had a metal recycling location that processed a lot of magnesium. The facility had its sprinklers shut off. Local fire officials made the facility enable the sprinklers. When the dreaded fire came along, they had to wait for the fire to exhaust all of its magnesium because the sprinklers turned a controllable fire into an uncontrolled inferno before they even arrived. It was an arson fire specifically to challenge the local fire department.
For anyone interested in what magnesium can do, search for "1955 Le Mans disaster".
Probably water is a cheaper of suppression system to install
I live 1.5 miles away from the Bio-Lab chemical fire. I could see the smoke from my house. I don't understand why the fire department was putting water on a water reactive chemical. It made the situation worst!
Remember back in 2012ish when they said the price of cells would come down significantly? Its going to be difficult to lower the price when the factories keep burning (this is not the first for them).
EV= EXPLODING VEHICLE
100% they just added a Tesla dealer near me, and the dump, and natural methane plant. that goes up, im out of here
If you want il,e post the data on the amount of ev fires compared to ice fires
But that would make your comment look rather silly and uninformed.
@@tonysales3687and how many EV are there compared to ICE vehicles, little fella? How many ICE vehicles spontaneously burst into flames when they're completely turned off , little fella? But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your EVangelical rant! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
EVs should be renamed to exploding toxic vehicles 😅😂
@brucemitchell5637
There are over 1.2B ICE vs 40m EVs 😂😅can you imagine having 1.2B EVs on the roads worldwide in the next 40 years from now let's say 5% are caught on fire it will spreading quickly to the next EVs very quickly next thing you know the whole cities throughout America will be on fire within a days 😂😅
Thank you for the very informative update.
China Observer channel has an excellent report on this CATL fire with some good fire footage, and goes into the company's personal history with Xi Jinping ... and concerns with the US military.
U2oob: giant CATL billows
Imagine how clean and pure our air could be with a lithium battery plant and bio-lab going up in flames in every major city....
..that toxic smoke is so much better than that tiny bit of CO2 coming out of my little 4 banger gas powered car that the trees can absorb....
What does your car have to do with the bio lab fire ?no one has ever said you have to buy a ev . You can drive your little 4 cyl used car till you die it’s not compulsory to buy a new car . You should be more worried about toxic runoff from that chemical fire 😊
@chrisward5626 people, including some politicians, are advocating for completely phasing out (ban) petrol and diesel vehicles in favour of EVs. This is on the basis that EVs are more environmentally friendly than fossil fuels. However, they don't seem to take into account the environmental impact of mining the minerals required (or child/slave labour involved), the pollution caused during manufacture, the toxic fumes produced during a fire event, the toxic run-off from dealing with said fire (which can get into ground water), or the pollution involved with generating enough electricity to charge huge numbers of EVs. Neither can the batteries, at present, be safely recycled.
Now, yes, there is pollution involved in the manufacture, running, and in the event of the burning of an ICE vehicle. I'm no expert, but seems to me that EVs are, at the very least, potentially more harmful to the environment.
@@chrisward5626 it's clear mandating ev is the path we're on.
@@chrisward5626what's the resale value of your EV, little fella? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I’m not a fire expert but seeing the orange colored smoke pouring out of the fire would make me want to stay the HELL away from the area!!
They can't even get them into the cars before catching fire. 😂
There have been at least 3 major truck batteries fire that shut interstates down hauling Littum batteries.
Because some assorted said they had to have a sprinkler system but didn't asses if it was safe around lithium.
I hear about it regularly
Thanks
I said the same thing about the Ga fire, it was basically a bomb waiting to go off with a sprinkler system over water reactive chemicals????
That’s quite a wild party they have going on at the office
There should be limits on the quantity of chemical that can be stored in one place without fire baffles and mitigation, say limited to the amouunt that can burn safely in 12-24 hours.
Basically limit on how much of this stuff you can have in one place.
Beyond that you should have to have separate storage facilities that are spread far enough away from each other to not effect each other in the case of fire.
Call me crazy, but there is zero reason that a fire should ignite the entire stockpile.
Oh well, thank goodness the EPA is reassuring everyone.
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These battery fires are a bit like what used to happen 40 years ago with fireworks and firework factories.
Only the other day in uk they clossed the last coal powered power station crazy to think lithium is greener than coal we live in strange times 😮
These are two different ends of the chain. Li-Ion is ued to store energy, not create it. Coal, LNG, and nuclear are used to generate it.
Li-Ion also has a huge carbon footprint when the entire process (mining->transport->processing->battery production) is taken into account. It's all just moving deck chairs on the Titanic. Happy Motoring by other means.
Those smoke plumes are terrifying to see. The pollution and harm done will be staggering. Would be nice if humans could figure this stuff out and not destroy the places will live in.
Thats like storing gun powder and strike anywhere matches in the same ammo can
Using a reactant as an extinguisher eh? Pure genius, no notes.
I live in conyers and it’s been horrendous the last few days. We have a petition to get bio lab out of our community. This is the 4th incident. They shouldn’t be operating near residential areas. And yes it still stinks of swimming pool chlorine. We are still on shelter in place orders from 7p-7am. It was wild being in Walmart and hearing everyone’s phone emergency alerts go off at the same time for the order.
lets not forget Gov gretchen whitmer wants these plants in MI saying how safe they are. She is also taking in nuclear waste from NY that decided to dig up some ancient nuclear waste cause they made a new law not allowing it. Gov Whitmer said we'll take it all, no problem
Didn’t Michigan have the toxic waste polluted water some years ago in Flint?
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes Plus all the states running oil sands from Canada thru old pipes made for 'plain old' old&gas.
That stuff is abrasive and causes these old pipes to leak into the local environment. Fun.
The plant in China is also a battery recycling plant, so dealing with damaged batteries is more problematic. Cheers
When i was a kid, i used to take gas and gallons of hairspray into the dry woods and proceed to make 20ft tall fireballs regularly. Now that im middle aged i realize how dangerous fire can be.
Keep that EV crap in China America don't want that crap!!!
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They are not men, but hosts for something else...your close...what should bake your noodle is that both world wars were planned including choosing who wins and who loses, but all 1 unified cult...
Oct 2 was the last day of the 7year warning over North America.
thats green smoke boys and girls
Just hold your breath, for long, long time
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
How is this technology so great? It burns everything to the ground.
BioLab also produces pest control systems for commercial properties.
There is surprisingly little lithium in a lithium ion battery, and the state of that lithium is literally in the name of the battery technology: it is in the form of ions that travel back and forth between the plates through a semi-permeable membrane. The majority of the nasty metal found in a lithium ion battery is cobalt.
factories and recycling centers that work with lithium batters really should have firewall or fire barrier wall so instead of the whole building, if it's separated into 3 parts then only 1 of the 2 sides would burn which would also contain the fire more
Stache am I the only one who finds it strange that shits been blowing up and catching fire more then normal? No way there’s this many “accidents” at the same time this all happened a trash plant fire in Maine went up been burning for a few days… supposedly gonna go for another. Air quality alert issued today for most of the state.
Very interesting.
Issit audit season?
Very Toxic Pollution send in Gretta Thunberg .
Didn’t they say the chemical spill in east Palestine wasn’t harmful to the residents around that area even though people are STILL reporting health issues !
respect from Poland !!!
Lithium ion fire every week?
lets hope that its just the ether the lithium cobalt or lithium ion part of the factory and not the new-ish LiFePO 4 battery
as they allegedly have way higher thermal runaway heat threshold
Pollute the Earth with EVs , that's not very smart !
Thats funny because someone had mentioned CATL to me as a great chinese battery manufacturer a couple weeks ago lol.
yeah well they're always "talking up" CATL mostly just REPEATING the rhetoric and propaganda that they've already heard. what never dawns on them is that they DON'T live in China, nor do they read or write Mandarin.
CALT battery co. Is the general supplier for GMC
I share your caution on Lithium-ion batteries.
The China paranoia is excessive. Not everything in China is a state secret. English-language business papers in Asia all reported the fire four days ago, and since Chineses media report in Chinese, it is pretty easy to miss an event without casualties, because these fires are fairly common in the world's largest EV market.
My experience with China is with the auto industry. I've dealt with too many falsified reports. They always want things to look their best.
@@StacheDTraining Sounds like EU or US auto industry to me.
Just add water
?!
3:47 - That photo is from East Palestine, Ohio...
Unfortunately corporate values production and profit over safety.. 😢
Lithium contamination is terribly hard to store & maintain saftey as it will filter through anything. If gets into the water table it could be like an entire city or state on a bad trip if it didn't just kill is all out.
Gradual brain damage all at once in regions it would be terrible
That brand was about getting to a decent price… So lessen supply and drive the price up …. Why else would they let the news leak?
There goes some more government stocks...
The resale value of used EV`s will soon be cheaper than having your heating on in winter, buy a car and light it up , keep warm for weeks .
QuantumScape's solid state batteries are the answer.
It’s interesting because it’s almost like for me I’m peaking as myself, like I’d say it feels like a when the player finally defeat world 1 and now thinks the rest will be easy and is all buffed up. But it’s like the life difficulty has gone up lol.
Yes, lithium is a metal that is used in batteries:
Lithium batteries
These are non-rechargeable batteries that use lithium metal as a primary component. The lithium reacts with other materials in the battery to produce electricity. They are often used in toys, TV remotes, and wrist watches.
Lithium-ion batteries
These are rechargeable batteries that use lithium compounds, such as lithium iron phosphate or lithium cobalt oxide. The lithium ions move between the positive and negative electrodes to create the charge and discharge cycle. They are used in many personal electronics, such as cell phones, tablets, and laptops.
Lithium is a soft, silvery-white metal that is part of the alkali metals group on the periodic table. It reacts vigorously with water.
some reports say 4 to hospital from china fire
Remember these fires when some idiot on TV talks about deregulation.
It is also important to point out that these sorts of resources for terroristic attacks relieve them of having to bring in nukes or chemical gas bombs when they can create the same net effect without harm to their own people or lands. Many sleeper cells are now awaiting and taking orders from entities that pay them through technology that makes their paycheck just one ATM away. Getting their orders to inflame a mountain in California, or to cause an explosion for a big prize is easy in this day and age. Sad, but you are looking at a tiny bit of what is going on with the egg farms, the food chains breaking down, and some who are so powerful they can command and pay for it all from afar. Looks like "just another fire... nothing to see here" but the toxic fallout will be devastating stacked on the other floods and things going on in that part of the country. New storm coming, that all comes to the ground, not a plume above but also below. Who drinks the carncinogens?
These lithium batteries will eventually be banned.
reporting no injuries does not mean no injuries. We are talking about China.
Worst than all the coal plants we used for power. Third fire at this plant but it keeps running.
We have 10 Tesla chargers 50 feet from the gas pumps.
Lithium ion hydrogen yield booster… it’s true, some of the largest thermonuclear detonations used it…. Where does the thermo part come from…..just saying.
It’s like molten Lava 😮
Anytime something like this happens noboddy stands up for the birds fish and pollution. These companies need to ahut down if their not safe.
It starts with the oil and gas as requirement for most processes. Any financial support from that side? Fear mongering. How many homes destroyed buy gas?
Wait they're making chemicals for Pools and Spas but yet they were water reactive am I the only one saying this doesn't make sense?
How about the fire extinguishers made for EV . The foam that puts out the EV reaction . Very hard to believe that they didn’t have that available and had water sprinklers . Negligence? Incompetent?
What?
There are none that are effective at this stage.
A fire needs fuel and oxygen, lithium batteries provide both.
Foam and water are used to starve the fire of oxygen from surrounding air, lithium batteries don't need it so they continue burning.
@@Stambo59 is there anything? anytime? Is something available?
There is nothing available.
"Move along plebs, nothing to see here"...😐
"Unlikely to harm most people"? Sure, because this is US and we believe all that comes from that country.
Thank you for truth.
You can see her discomfort as the hands that moves her mouth toss her word salad
"Unlikely " and "most people " are weasel words. The plant owners clearly have too much influence with officials. My former employers installed Halon systems over 35 years ago, just to save equipment, not lives. These bums can't be bothered. Whether this case involves corruption, (I'm betting), or just incompetence, heads must roll, preferably to prison. This is criminal negligence, at the very least
Read the other comments. Halon won't help if the keystone fire guys come along and soak the equipment, "just to be sure".
Okay, make a wish on the magic vapor !
eeeEEERR OFFF
ta-DA !
I like how so many 3rd world countries like mine are still so obsessed with trying to increase the sales of EVs even though all the problems are already well known
Remember "most people" defines every human being on this planet. Nothing in comment implies about local people. Play with words. Nice we're having weather...
EPA is not on the people's side.
how are they doing on the carbon tax on those fires Gretta is not impressed...
Goodness me.
Corruption is what fuels these fires. Very dangerous EV ( Explosive Vehicles)
So much for “environmentally friendly”
So WE are supposed to just take THERE WORD that it’s SAFE to breathe in those chemicals ?
HOW’S that working out for East Palestine Ohio and Flint Michigan 😒