This Is Why Companies Are Hiding The Truth About Batteries
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You would be surprised at how many things technologically are being held back simply because of greed and money. This goes for almost all industries!
A local chap to me, invented a new battery or the way it worked that would revolutionize electric cars, he was so frightened he would get suicided he sold the patent fast as he could.
@@myself6296 Shouldn’t have sold it, just kept it hidden, but I don’t blame him. Most do get offed if they come out too the public with it. That’s why you don’t tell anyone if you do infact figure something out. Or build a small group or order that is only aware of such technology. That’s how others have seemed too hide there’s.
There's an even simpler reason - people settle into what appears to work and are resistant to betting on something new and better.
@@myself6296
I would have been just as concerned as he was about the same thing.
That sucks.
TRUTH.
If I only had a nickel for every time I've heard someone say they "developed a new battery tech that will change the world".
I would really like to see one live up to the hype but I'm not going to hold my breath for this.
If I had a nickel cadmium for every time I had dead batteries....
@@newfreenayshaun6651 I wouldn't want to have a NiCad every time I had dead batteries. I'd end up with a toxic landfill before I can even get married.
Whether it's one year or twenty years from now, eventually we'll have a new battery technology with higher density, more cycles and at a lower cost (even just greatly improving 1 or 2 of them would be great). Lithium ion/lithium polymer surely isn't as good as possible.
Those of us who are over 35 (ish) already have. Nobody was using Li-ion batteries when I was a kid, and all of the electronic devices that define the modern world simply wouldn't be practical using the battery technology of that era.
Ok, Malcolm in the Middle with a mustache, this better be something significant.
As a South African who experiences Loadshedding each day (rolling blackouts of up to 12.5 hrs a day), many of us who can afford it, have gone solar. Our home is now completely free from grid power. We have aircons, PCs, washing machines, dishwashers and all other home appliances running completely free every day. During rainy days we still generate enough solar energy to cover the base load of the house and trickle charge the batteries till, in most cases, even full. We went all out with our batteries. No expense saved there. And so far they have been paying off big time. Since the commissioning of our system our electricity usage quadrupled because we now had a near infinite supply. So much so that we literally have no load to spend 50% of the possible kWh's that we can generate from the sun. Currently we're looking at a way for homeowners in our security estate, with similar excess electricity to supply our excess back into our estate's grid so that other homes can use it. As crap as Loadshedding has been for us, it is also a blessing, since it forces us to cater for ourselves causing our corrupt government to lose the last little bit of power over us that they have.
Do you have a time Like once a month when you drain the batteries to 10% to make sure they stay good? Not sure what your batteries are made of but most batteries will go bad if you keep them charged all the time.
@@ebenezerspludge8369 The batteries manages themselves to keep them healthy. Every now and again they do get depleted. But never to 10%. My lower limit is 40%. The batteries themselves are rated for 6000 cycles at 100% depth of discharge or 15 years before it starts derating. With a 10 year warranty. It is LiFePO4 automotive grade batteries.
Your use case is most beneficial in a dysfunctional environment, such as South Africa, a failed state of Leftist ideals. In a functional, competent environment, individuals cannot economically compete with the services provided by dedicated companies.
Farm crypto with excess power
I wish I could go solar, I wish I could afford a house, but nonetheless I still wouldn't. Over here in Australia I am not sure if you can go solar without connecting to the grid, and if we connect back to the grid, they charge you for power you send back. Connecting to the grid ends up costing you just as much as paying.
I imagine it's like light bulbs... The first mass-produced bulbs could last years, there is one in a fire station that has been working non-stop for over 100 years.
The companies actually got together to place a limit on how long bulbs could last so they can make the most profit.
It's called planned obsolescence
Same with many things, such and domestic appliances
The same with LED lights too.
Something to consider is that, like LED bulbs, how hard you drive a incandescent bulb has a huge effect on it's lifespan. Unlike LED bulbs though, a incandescent lightbulb has the highest chance of failure when you turn it on (likely due to thermal shock on the filament) which means that if you run a incandescent light bulb 24/7 then it has a much lower chance of failure compared to one that is turned on and off constantly. If you run that bulb that is running 24/7 at a fraction of it's rated power then you also vastly increase it's lifespan. In other words, if you look at photos of that fire station bulb you will notice that it is extremely dim which means that it is running at a fraction of the power that a regular bulb would be running at and it has been running pretty much 24/7 in that low power state which avoids both conditions that lead to failure.
I have a halogen bulb in my hallway that's lasted over 30 years
Hi, am a retired electrical engineer that worked for many years as a consultant for electricity distributers. You are so spot on regarding "community" electricity generation and storage. Not only will there be less pressure on the grid transmission system (with its visually disruptive pylons all over the countryside, including areas of natural beauty), but they will also be less dependent on monopolistic utilities, replaced with local accountability. And yes, the local green energy revolution is so so dependent on battery technology that is affordable, energy dense, reliable and environmentally friendly. If this happens, earth will certainly be a better place.
And it would be impossible for an enemy to cut power to great swaths of territories
Local stationary energy storage for sustainable energy systems doesn't require high energy density though, which is the expensive part and also the very dangerous part. For bulk stationary storage the only requirement is that it's very cheap per unit of storage and can operate at part-charge without damage. Unfortunately, lead-acids don't fit the bill because even though they're relatively cheap and very safe, they get damaged unless maintained at 100% charge.
Nickel-based chemistries are too expensive, lithium-ion is far too dangerous in large aircraft-hangar sized installations and tends to be very expensive as well. Perhaps LFP (lithium ferrophosphate) cells would be a good intermediate solution for local bulk storage but they are still far too expensive. Their cycle life and calendar life are outstanding, though.
For large cities like Toronto, Montreal, NYC, L.A. and the like, having huge local battery storage systems might be a really good idea to relieve power stations from conditions of peak demand. It's just that battery technology is too dangerous and much too expensive right now.
The highest possible energy density is only necessary for EVs, and is especially necessary for electric aircraft. The best current battery tech is much too dangerous and expensive, so even the best EVs are a very costly niche product and likely will remain so for many decades. They can get away with it for relatively small numbers of very expensive luxury & performance oriented vehicles, but EV still have no way to compete with internal combustion engines for low cost and high practicality & convenience. Long-range low-cost practical air travel entirely on green energy is a dream for the future--and an actual goal for the *distant* future.
@@devilsoffspring5519 I don't believe truly "cheap" energy will ever happen. It might be cheap to produce BUT it wont be cheap for the consumer, as with everything else.
@@starbyray7828 It has already happened. Off-peak electricity is roughly 10 cents a kWh, around 100 bucks a meg. Portable energy for vehicles (gasoline) is about twice that cost for the same amount of energy.
That's really, really cheap. We may think of it as expensive because it's so common and so cheap that we use it frivolously. What's not cheap is practical, sustainable energy. The normal sources like oil-derived fuels for mobile applications and hydro, nuclear and natural gas for stationary energy are extremely cheap.
@@starbyray7828
Well you produce part of it yourself or within a small community, which makes it difficult to force you to pay high prices.
Big corporations are what makes stuff expensive, because the force the price up, if you break their monopole, the prices will fall.
As far back as I can remember the new game changer in battery technology is always 2 years away. I have been waiting for 30 years now.
Same with nuclear fusion, and thorium reactors.
Dont worry, a big company will patent this revolutionary battery, so it never will go into production.
😂😂😂 so true..
Compare batteries now to 30 years ago. Pretty sure it's been a gamechanger for a while now.
Just like fusion power. It will never happen either.
Big power organisations don't want people to have cheap energy. Hence why new house in the UK are mandated to not have chimneys as to not be able to supply your own heating.
How the fuck did the UK manage to dominate and control 25% of the planet at one point? Every story i hear out of the UK nowadays is about the government oppressing the people and the people just shrugging their shoulders in response...where did the killer fighter Briton go?
Build your own unless you live in a kennel 😊
@@ReedoAcedoesn’t work that way. Also not an easy task that everyone can just do
I could say there are no chimneys because the Illuminati cabal don’t believe in Santa, but I’d be wrong.
Electricity prices through the roof in Australia and going to be worst year on year too… green is cheap hahaha 😂
50 years ago, my Father worked for the local electric company.
He took me to work one day and they were all exited to shom me a new battery that lasted 500 years. It was a small black pellet.
I have no idea of its compisition.
They even gave me a glass cube with one of the pellets inside.
Ive never seen them commercially anywhere, but imagine the change it would make in our lives.
But then Power companies wouldn't be able to sell you overpriced power.
No, no they didn't.
🧢
Stop making shit up brother.
Are you from the future? No, really giving you the benefit of the doubt. Do you know anything else about it?
New battery technologies are being developed all the time, what matters is can it be manufactured cheaply and at scale.
Bullshit, what matters is if it's profitable for the 1%.
Given enough time a craze can drive new premium products and investment.
Is it that or the current battery companies hindering new cheaper and better technologies to come to the masses because it doesn't generate them enough money. You'd be naive to think we don't have better technologies that are cheaper , better and easy to produce already. Problem is they only keep them as secret until they find a way to capitalize it
if any company discovers a new, revolutionary type of battery, it will be so expensive that nobody can afford it anyway
@@Moonlakes oh okay. Thanks for the information!
Edit nice pfp
My brother put a solar roof on his house (22 panels) but had to sign a contract that stated that any excess power he generated would not be put back into the grid and sold back to the power company. The only way he was granted a permit to build was to sign that contract. The power company doesn't want to buy your electricity and, in some areas, can choose to deny residence access to solar energy if it means it will dip into their pockets. As long as lobbying exists, companies like that will continue to dictate policy.
Glad I live where I dont have to ask permission
That's wild. We send our excess back. With how frequent the threat of black outs are you'd think they'd welcome it.
Weird, where im at it's basically opposite of that, you have to agree to maintain a grid connection and add your excess back into the supply.
@@TheCoon1975 Yeah, that's kind of what I traditionally thought too. I had no idea some regions had to deal with this. DTE Energy is where we live, and they call the shots for us. :/
You at least still have "free" electricity, you just don't get to profit off it. Lame, but it's better than getting gouged when relying on the grid.
My grandfather and his good friend attempted to get a specific battery technology they created patented and sold but ran into a hell of a time. All labs and scholastic resources refused to publish anything on their results due to fears of being surprised. It’s insane, they no longer are trying after 20 years of putting up the good fight.
If they have truly given up I hope they find a way to get the knowledge out to people. It's better that the more efficient tech is known even if they can't make money from it
They should not give up. Especially not for cowards who are afraid of looking stupid.
Screw patents. Just put it out. Patents only work for trolls and corporations who can afford to sue large companies... If you can't.. Then patents are pointless. Just gives everyone who's rich clear instructions on how to undercut you.
Yeah. I imagine some rich guys going: NO, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY WITH THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY! SHUT IT DOWN.
Dude. Please.
you gotta make them dude!
Copper, when introduced to grape juice, can pause fermentation. I think the Baghdad battery had absolutely nothing to do with a battery and everything to do with wine preservation. That’s not very exciting though.
it was sealed with ashphalt.... it wasnt for wine preservation. nor batteries
@@codyringer1857 , What difference does it being sealed with asphalt make? What was its purpose if not wine or battery?
@shawnglass108 to Keep documents secret or protected. They've found similar jars with papyrus scrolls in the core. The asphalt matters. Especially for a battery. Seeing as that using vinegar or wine or juice would only last for a relatively short period of time. You'd have to open it regularly and switch out the liquid. Not very easy to do if you're trying to break an asphalt seal.... see if you read the ACTUAL studies about it You'd know this too! Education is the cure for stupidity!
You'd be surprised at how many different technologies are being held back by a lack of advancement in battery technology
Yes. I'm legally blind (not fully blind) and would love to have a bionic eye to improve my vision. But it would be a nightmare to have to "recharge my eyes" every 5 hours.
@@thecaricature Interesting idea, but it probably is extremely unsafe. I would get a steady dose of radiation all day, every day, straight to my head.
@@chunkyMunky329 The worst you'd have to deal with is heat radiation generated from the wireless power transfer and some kind of device strapped to your head. Considering how thin wireless charging elements are/ can be and the amount of power you'd have to transmit, you could probably get away with an ear piece of some sort.
But bar that, you'd be fine.
However, transmitting enough power to power say, a car? You're talking a lot of non-ionizing radiation similar to a cell tower, but wayyyy more intense
would be better if batteries were made obsolete ;)
@@jimmybrad156 Hell yeah, bring on magic and pixie dust!
Lightbulbs were originally designed to last a very long time, a lot of things were meant to last for a long time.
People realised that they'd make more money by giving them a shorter like span
One of the very few times there has actually been a secret conspiracy like some folks like to yell about. Funny how the tinfoil hat crowd does not seem to know about it...
Light bulbs, assuming you’re talking about the incandescent kind, like many things, involve a tradeoff. In this case it’s a tradeoff between lifespan and efficiency. The most efficient lightbulb is the one which burns the hottest, but that also has the shortest life. Conversely, you can make a bulb which will last many years but it will be terribly inefficient. Incandescent lightbulbs have long been designed for a medium lifespan/efficiency. It has nothing to do with making money.
@@ethanlamoureux5306 You're talking form a technical view of how it functions, I'm not. I'm talking how these types of products were originally meant to be used, then were changed (be that for efficiency or profit)
There's information out there about these things and their uses when first invented, how the products were changed largely because a company wouldn't make as much money.
@@ethanlamoureux5306 Nope, there already were designs with good lifespan/efficiency ratio, and then the different companies got together and agreed to lower the lifespan so they could sell more and also that anyone whose product was too good would have to pay fines.
@@Martyn_Wolf except the as you put it technical point of view makes it so that the thing you're talking about isn't nearly as cut and dry as you'd like to believe.
There were genuine technical reasons to limit lightbulb lifespan. Efficiency is one factor, another is light temperature and finally there is luminosity.
Back to efficiency and lifespan, if our light bulbs were less efficient, but longer lasting that would have put more strain on electric grids. I remember reading an analysis according to which it would have been more expensive for consumers to have longer lasting lightbulbs due to the increased electricity usage and costs thereof.
Thank you for this video on batteries! Too few people talk about how bad they are to mine minerals for and later dispose of.
WHAT ??? THATS ALL U EVER HEAR !!!
Fantastic video.
Great information.
My older brother just passed away this year
He used to build his own solar panels.
He would have LOVED this !!!
Sorry for your loss
@@jimthvac100 Thank You.
New tech has to be allowed to exist even if it is a threat to existing profitable systems who don't want compitition.
Currently it's being forced to exist at gunpoint by my state government. The "big oil" companies are pushing these renewables and there is no competition because, well, the government is forcing it on us.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
NEW TECH? xD
This battery was at the drawing board since the 1960s and they had the same problems as we do now.
Directly quoted from the wiki.
Li-S batteries were invented in the 1960s, when Herbert and Ulam patented a primary battery employing lithium or lithium alloys as anodic material, sulfur as cathodic material and an electrolyte composed of aliphatic saturated amines.[12][13] A few years later the technology was improved by the introduction of organic solvents as PC, DMSO and DMF yielding a 2.35-2.5 V battery.[14] By the end of the 1980s a rechargeable Li-S battery was demonstrated employing ethers, in particular DOL, as the electrolyte solvent.[15][16]
In 2020 Manthiram identified the critical parameters needed for achieving commercial acceptance.[17][18] Specifically, Li-S batteries need to achieve a sulfur loading of >5 mg cm−2, a carbon content of
OK, I grant its right to exist.
Waiting...
They'll never let it
Conspiracies are so handy to mask unrealized dreams ... dreams that don't take into account real world physics ... so so handy
Here is one big issue, the higher the energy density, the more dangerous and the bigger the boom we get when (not if) something goes wrong. Really, the only difference between a battery and an explosive device is the ability to control the release rate of that energy
So much more wrong with this video, but this is a good start.
@@chickenman297 It wasn't a bad overview of the problems with batteries in general. Aram didn't not specific issues each type of battery as they weren't relevant to the video, batteries are probably at the limit of what we can do with them and new ones might come on to the market if they can solve some serious technical issues. Note his comment comparing them to fusion just being around the corner.
You too can learn to dance!
Take a 9 volt and drop it in your pocket with change.
Whoopie!
@@davidmacphee3549 A 9 volt? That can't break the resistance of the skin You need at LEAST 50V, and that is still on the very low. You can find some Ohm calculators to find out what you need to break through skin, which is roughly 10k to 100k ohm. Figuring out skin resistance to zap someone is actually a very good way of starting to understand Ohms law, everyone gets interested for some reason :)
EV batteries have just entered the chat.
I love how people who try to say that the Baghdad battery was just used for electroplating jewelry never bother to mention that electroplating wasn't invented until the mid-1800s.
says who? you know this how?
Are you an idiot?
Winners of wars write the history so all manipulated
It's a long list of things that have been "discovered" more than once throughout history. The United States was "discovered" at least 4 times. 1. Native Americans (descendants from asians). 2. Original South Americans 3. Vikings, 4. Europeans.
Chinese could fold steel in a way we still can't figure out.
Japanese used to build homes and buildings without any metal "screws"
It’s 2024 and they aren’t here yet
This also works under the assumption that industries that stand to lose the most by this advancement go and sit on their hands and do nothing about this. Pretty sure as hard as they are working on the tech, they are probably thinking of adding a monthly subscription/licensing fee to these grid-independent devices.
Like the batteries and the solar panels and the inverters needed to power a 3-rd world village with people that make less than $5 / day? How are they going to pay for those? In that village surely they have biomass (as agricultural waste, wood, and other things that burn) which can be used in a wood gas generator which can power an conventional ICE generator and costs less than 1/10 of the price of the battery.
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 If those people have been surviving without electricity for thousands of years up until this point why exactly is it so important to drastically change their lives? So much of our interference in the underdeveloped world has only made things horribly worse for them and us. We have millions of people in Africa now dependant on charity food supplies from the West, now they are supposed to get Western medical care, and you want to give them electricity so they can stay up later at night making more babies? We need to stop trying to "save" people that are obviously content in their ways and stop making it easier for them to breed excessively which just creates higher demands for more charity from us. Leave them alone, your aid is just another form of colonialism and it's not helping them.
I foresee laws preventing independent energy production for "safety" reasons. Governing bodies are not losing control of a major resource nor are the industries going to sit back and twiddle thumbs. Someone will make and sell the solar panels and as they do now, lease them. Someone will make and sell the batteries charging for a maintenance plan to service issues, someone will need to make the lines you use to carry power into your house. As always government will pick winners in that war, incentivise them well making laws preventing others. However the vast majority of individuals don't want to become producers,they just want to flip a switch and be done so mist will be happy to pay somebody to handle it all.
@@susanlippy1009 That wouldn't be surprising in some places, I recently found out that in Oregon the state doesn't trust it's citizens to pump their own gas into their cars lol. You have to pay a "specialist" to place the nozzle in your tank and push the button so you don't destroy your car or the gas station with your obvious incompetence. Hilarious
California’s electric utility cartels slowed the adoption of solar by 80% last year to boost their profits and take more money from their captive customers.
My grandfather was in the Cheshire Signals during the Malayan Incident, where he spent years in the jungle intercepting and deciphering coded radio messages, and he said that they were given batteries to keep electronics running for months on end in the jungle which have never seen the light of day on the consumer market, and that was 60 years ago.
Probably aluminum-air.
@@erincarson8998 Probably. They are expensive and non-rechargeable, but store an enormous amount of energy for their size and weight (Wiki says about 1,300 Wh/kg, around 6 or 7 times better than li-ion)
No idea about their safety or their discharge performance.
army radios are very different to a phone that is basically a mini pc, and don't require any where near as much power and are basically using no power while still being able to pick up signals
The GP never gets the good 💩
Probably lithium sulfur batteries...
Very informative and I found your realistic opinions on timelines refreshing in a world full of over promise and under deliver.
Batteries, just like Lightbulbs, Tires, Seeds, Cell Phones, etc. are highest on the list of Planned Obsolescence Domination by power hungry corporations and governments. Numerous independent engineers & inventors have successfully broken through over the years - only to be squashed by the Big Biz Boys...and sadly, will continue. Thank you 42 for all of your thought-provoking and amazingly fascinating content!! 👏
10000000%% spot on !!!!
Greed and corruption across the board
Could you name some of those broken through engineers?
I’d love to hear more about these engineers and inventors!!
@@iiiiii19that's the point, you aren't allowed to know about them.
Usually it's controlled in the following methods:
1.they buy off the competitor(the new threat to their profits)
2.adjust the regulations in order to make it severely harder to publicize their inventions
3.create drama and false narratives about new technologies to make the public not trust it
4. Dig up the past of the individuals in order to force them to stop or to start a legal battle hassle for the individual until they are financially bankrupt.
5.lastly is ending if the ones above don't work.
Unless you have really really good connections that can back you up financially, you'll have a really difficult time releasing anything that could harm the profits of the monopolized industries
extrudable polymeric batteries are a good example, bought from Leeds university by an American company which then dropped off the radar, you don't need high density batteries for cars etc if you can make most of the car body a battery.
I love the idea of these new batteries that would last longer with more power than normal lithium ion batteries but my first thought was that the main manufacturers for batteries wouldn't want to make these readily available, companies like duracel would probably be opposed to new batteries and I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened with the advancement of lightbulb technology, they got too advanced and the companies producing them weren't making enough money for it to be effective so they purposely made worse lightbulbs.
Planned obsolescence.
No. If someone developed a new leap in battery technology to hold us over until Lithium Air comes around? They would be disgustingly rich.
Remember it isn't just one company striving for it. It is literally countries. America, China, all of Western Europe are researching it for not just civilian, but military uses.
Solid State is coming out in 2024. I'm really hoping more break throughs on lithium air can. Therotically they have the best maximum potential, and can be made to draw air from the environment making them hold up to 12.7kw kg.
Anyway technology moves to rapidly for old companies to try to stagnant a technology so important to civilization. Governments would get involved.
The world of today isnt the same as 100 years ago where information traveled very slowly, if ever. It was a different time and opportunity to create artificial scarcity.
Besides, its not really the battery manufacturer that is concerned but the current energy providers and the politicians on their payroll. It's why Biden wont acknowledge Tesla corp, but praise Gm and Ford as leaders of electrification when they barely sold a few thousand cars. Meanwhile tesla had about a million on the roads already. It's also why UAE pivot to invest in entertainment/sports because they see the writings on the wall. For decades, battery development was undermined, since the oil crisis of the 70's basically, when people thought of changing the whole thing. It was even recognized by governments. The whole thing could have been much further, but at last, it's finally happening
@@dianapennepacker6854, that's like saying that cars that ran on batteries in 1890 weren't suppressed by car manufactures of the time (and for the century) while they were saying it was dangerous and ICE were the future of cars that run on batteries...
@@dianapennepacker6854 It is BECAUSE governments are involved. They need taxes income, which is difficult with cheap and long-lasting things.
I appreciate you calling out the fact that ExxonMobil own the patent on Lithium-ion batteries. It would be nice to learn how that came to be.
a patent can be bought and buried, but only for 16 years. @@TimeLessTraveled
R&D with carbon tax money.
In 2012 the Korean presidents brother, who worked for ExxonMobil his entire life, took over the International Panel of Climate Change at the UN..
ExxonMobil is the world leader in green technologies
theres a crystal growing, layering, pressing, tech tool the universities & others have. Inputting as little as a watch battery amount of energy to it produces more then a semi battery worth of output. Light can be used to input a slight amount of energy to the crystal tech as well
Patents only last 20 years
@@adjacent-smithand in the news is the fact that ExxonMobil is rolling out lithium extraction from underground brines in the USA.
The same establishment that has implemented "planned obsolescence" is not going to be excited about actual efficiency.
Wonderful video ❤. I hope that we are able to make better batteries in the future and the technology is not suppressed and turns out to be more safe.
When I looked into solar for my home I calculated that with the battery backup systems currently available it would never actually pay for its self. Although the company trying to sell it to me said it would pay for itself in 14 years. What they did not consider is that the battery had to be replaced in 10 years and the inverter in 12. From what I have read lithium really does not like hot humid climates either so that could have cut the life as well. The battery was half the cost of the ststem.
*Unlimited Energy = A lot more heat output...* I watched Star Trek as a kid, and all the science shows but I never believed any of it would be tomorrow. Seen too many 'next big things' in my lifetime that came to nothing, but I also understand that some people desperately cling to the 'next big thing' becoming a reality, my only worry is what toll it will take on them mentally when they finally realise that most things fail...just wanting things to be true is not enough.
I am more worries about lithium fires. They are quite fiery, enough to make sitting on a tank of flammable liquid look safe by comparison.
There are ppl who kill those projects because they will no longer hold the money, power, and influence they have now.
Lithium batteries are considered a hazardous material to ship, meaning shipping containers must be labeled showing that lithium batteries are present so that first responders know how to safely approach and deal with them in case of accidents and emergencies.
I've been there myself and it's always hard to break it to people who are still awstruck at the prospects of that magical sci-fi future that's apparently just years away. Real scientific progress is very slow and incremental, and most the papers out there are total deadends. Especially if they sound cool. The researchers see what they want to see and exaggerate to garner attention and funding. Journalists don't understand the subject matter and then exaggerate the smallest 'maybes' into headlines for clickbait. If 10% of the things I read about had come true, IRL Star Trek wouldn't be far away.
@@balazsvarga1823 Yep, cobalt batteries are a risk, so are LFP. Regardless of the chemistry, it's also a matter of energy density, as the battery isn't the only risk it also includes the electronics and wiring with shorts and you still have a fire...
I've watched this guy grow up on the tube. Like learning to play the piano, he has worked hard to learn the craft. Deserves every view. His videos are very well done.
Ceramic electrolytes don t prevent dendrites formation. Plus, a full ceramic battery based on zirconates garnets for example are extremely fragile, which doesnt exactly comply with the kind of shaking/vibration of a car. This is why the tech doesn t come into the market as fast as we d hope
Greed will never allow these concepts to come to complete fruition, unless and until it becomes an absolute necessity-even then, I fear the greedy will just find another way! 😪
Cobalt is mainly obtained as a secondary product from copper and nickel extraction. The sulfur batteries you mentioned exhibit a significant self-discharge rate. Regarding lithium, the issue isn't scarcity, but rather the challenge of extracting it rapidly enough to satisfy growing demand. Establishing a new lithium mine typically requires five years or more.
interesting stuff
And the cost of diesel fuel for one super excavator is 6.5 million that’s just fuel no maintenance at all. That’s why they use slave labor. Remember that there is an estimated 40.3 million slaves today. Yet nobody cares. Sad but true 🙏🇺🇸
If you are talking of extracting lithium from rock deposits, then you are right, it takes at least five years to get a new mine into production.
But high-lithium geothermal brines are being discovered in huge quantities in many countries (Salton Sea region in USA, Elsass in France, Cornwall in UK, etc), and those can be developed very quickly, as they involved no mining operation, just drilling + a lithium extraction plant, and have a minimal environmental footprint, so they can be developed within a densely populated region. The heat from the brines also allow the operation to generate its own energy, with a surplus! See:
- www.energy.gov/eere/articles/us-department-energy-analysis-confirms-californias-salton-sea-region-be-rich-domestic
- ruclips.net/video/FbzL09SoHdo/видео.html
In the context of growing economic demand then scarcity is exactly the issue, right? Though I get what you mean with typical connotations of the word, and resource scarcity alone doesn't explain much as to why that is. With how quick tech and the world's demand moves, the mines can't keep up which leaves us with demand induced scarcity. Fast world we live in 😵💫
@@mildjellisc Catch 22 New technology also takes time to come to market By which time the supply demands May have caught up. It's amazing how much technology is developing So many different Innovations flying around Seems like a new one every day.
The Baghdad battery isn't really a battery, but rather it had a ritual role. This is actually quite an interesting topic that deserves a video of its own. The one definitive video about it that I found is from an archeologist specialized in Near East. The channel's name is Artifactually Speaking and funnily enough it is actually a reaction video.
Yep. It MAY have been a battery, but it was not understood to be one, and was not used as one. It lacks a hole for a wire. The tube was not long enough, so there's no spot to connect anything to complete a circuit. The stopper was in the way. It was just storage. If it was actually used for electroplating, we would have electroplated artifacts, and the devices that made them, but we don't.
Yup
No one knows what they were it's all speculation. Every time an archeologist or historian doesn't know what something was they always say it was religious or ceremonial, if I had dollar for every time I've heard one say that...
@@dickJohnsonpeterthank you. It's so annoying to hear AB archeologist proclaim what something was or wasn't and what it was and wasn't used for thousands of years ago. I have no issue with them giving an educated guess, but I have an issue with someone taking it wasn't a battery. How do they know? They don't. They can infer but they can't know for sure.
I also saw people saying that while it's technically a battery, they didn't use it as such. Oh really? I didn't realize humans could live to be thousands of years old to know what people did or didn't know. You could maybe prove that ancients did know something but how do you prove they didn't know something? You can't.
@@dickJohnsonpeter Occam's Razor, buddy. We have plenty of evidence for the likes of religious or cultural use of objects. On the other hand take away this so-called battery and there's NO evidence for batteries in Mesopotamia or anywhere else... it's up to people making the claim to prove it.
Try and think critically. Why isn't there other batteries found at this or any other sites? Where are the lightbulbs or electroplated materials? Would not such an advancement have been adopted all through the ancient world?
Cool video! Keep it up!
Unfortunately, I have a feeling that even if these technologies came true and some remote village could have their own battery and solar technology making them completely independent, the governments would come up with the way to NOT make their electric bills lower. Maybe additional "energy independence tax" ? Sounds like a doable thing.
That and more.
Meanwhile I’m watching this while my battery percentage is at 4%
Piss in your phone.
Using it wisely I'd watch thoyhty2 also
Put that shite on charge or u may miss something
Mine is at 69%
67%
I believe they are trying to pass a bill in California to make it so you can't use or store the energy produced by you solar. You first have to sell the energy to the power company and then buy it back at an increased cost.
Sounds like something California would do
California is the worst state in America. I'm probably in the 2nd or 3rd worst, Illinois.
That sounds absolutely idiotic. What's the point in having your own solar then?
You buy solar panels, you plug them into whatever dwelling or device you chose… I don’t have to sell anyone anything.
The problem with Lithium batteries is not just their energy density, it is also their tendency to catch fire (catastrophically), the use of rare elements in their construction, and their relative slowness to recharge (compared to filling a tank with gas). This doesn’t begin to address the issues with the capability of the grid to deal with charging large numbers of EVs, or their need to be replaced periodically (at great cost). There are so many factors that limit the acceptance of EVs, but it seems that everyone is only focused on this one aspect, when any one of the other problems could halt their acceptance. Lastly, they should NOT be made mandatory (as some municipalities are trying to do by 2035), as we live in a “free” society, and should be allowed to accept a technology (or reject it) depending on our personal needs and desires. Too often it seems that governments see EVs as a way to consolidate their power over the people.
Two things,
First, Thank You for saying that it was for copper plating because if that artifact was truly used as a battery it would be great for plating objects using copper solutions easily produced even at that time. I use a power supply set on a setting so low it's actually difficult to keep the machine on(part of A volt), because it plates completely and smoothly that way. The low voltage over longer periods like a battery of this type would produce would be great for my purposes, and I could use one today no problem.
Second, we are never going to have a day where we throw out All old batteries and replace them with one type. What has already happened is that we now have different batteries for different purposes, and they will slowly change probably for a long time. With consumers being at the bottom level of current technology for the most part, we generally don't even know whats being done in many technologies until they are well into implementation, so I know that if we are seeing all of these new batteries like we are, then we have already had a sort of battery revolution.
And yes, we will all be generating at least some of our own energy in the near future, which if you don't know, equals freedom in many many ways.
A lot of energy companies bought the copyright to lots of inventions to stop them coming to market. This is why there has been such a strangle hold when it comes to petrol etc
Keep up the good work. Always interesting.
*Citation needed...
You must bring it to market or you lose your patent, do some studying please.
@@hcox1111 They prefer to believe in fantasy so they can invent silly tales of heros and villains instead of admitting that the reality of our existence is far more mundane. Nobody is hiding some secret alien technology from the world, we're all just doing the best we can with what's available and that is all that we will ever do.
@@hcox1111 there's always a loophole,,,,this being that u can always say u doing some improvements before releasing it and never actually release it 😢
I don't think it is that easy to keep the patent pending.@@ianmwangi2105
I would be very rich if I had a dollar each time someone said that “this new battery changes everything.” The problem is that you need a revolutionary battery design that can be manufactured at scale. Lots of battery breakthroughs recently but so far none have actually made sense or are even possible to mass manufacture. I’ll believe it when I see it. Update- Well now it looks like he edited the title of the video and the thumbnail after the fact so that’s cool.
Wow you would get a dollar almost on a daily basis. Leave some for the rest of us bro, what are you going to spend all that money on!?
@@tomasarana8450 Batteries, apparently...
I don’t think you would be.
My father used to drive electric vehicles around Dover, England shortly after WW2 in the late 40's.
80 years later he can't understand what the fuss is all about.
1.Step up converters are more important vs batteries.😊
2. Nuclear decaying batteries do not need to be recharged, or replaced for extended periods 50-100+ years.
Have been in use in satellites for 30+ years.
3. Solid state batteries are not good in sub zero applications.
While it is technically possible to run out of a mineral but when people talk about "running out," thats not what they mean. It's just that it becomes increasingly hard and energy intensive to get it. There's lots of lithium on this planet, it's just very hard and energy intensive to separate from other minerals.
Thank you 42. I subscribed to your channel way back when you used to always wear a suit and tie saying since this was your only job the least you could do was to look presentable for us. I've watched you change over those many, many months but, thankfully, the one thing that never changed was your hard work creating quality, well researched, thought provoking videos about important issues, ideas, and other happenings in our world we need to know about. Your uploads are always looked forward to, by me, and many others, and you never let us down. I am glad you shaved that mustache though. It really wasn't you. 🤣
"Well researched" the Baghdad battery is pure psudoscience. In fact it wanst even a battery in the furst place, and furthermore there is ZERO evidence it could have been used for electroplating as implied in the video.
John B. Goodenough sounds like a background character for a book that someone gave up creating halfway through.
I really like the idea of the FeO2 battery. Yeah, it's big and heavy, but 30,000+ cycles, near zero safety hazards, and cheap production means a lot. And it's not like we're short of space. Spend 1 acre of land for iron oxide batteries and power the nearby village. And it's all powered by just rusting some metal and then un-rusting it when the sun's out.
Yeah, I'm gonna just count on my backyard's 69 tons of parallelly connected Potato battery pack project. I can see a revolution!
This is genuinely so cool to see! I use to watch you back when I was 7-8 years old. I am now 18 and randomly thought about your channel after seeing the number 42! I’m so happy you were able to grow your channel and pursue your dreams.
Smart kid
Crazy to think he's been going that long
He used to have a crazy mustache
I remember it lol gone but not forgotten
Why’d you stop watching then
I noticed that the Prieto battery design that was developed in Colorado by a professor and grad students developed using “3D”
Copper foam. Their website is still active and is boasting some pretty significant performance for the tech.
Take 2 doughnut magnets on positive attraction put a copper coil between them then put a coil on each end making sure all three coils are connected then place a magnet on each end on repulsion electricity builds up in center coil compacted then pushed out the negative ends more Jules...
Graham Hancock would absolutely love this video… nonsense ideas about ancient artifacts and history completely disproved by actual archaeology.
He’s an author ffs not an archaeologist who mostly disagree with him 🤦♂️
I've been watching the slow development of battery technology for a long time. While we excitedly anticipate the next revolutionary development, we are treated instead with the plodding pace of evolutionary development. We're going to see this wild and amazing new technologies, but they need the time to properly percolate. This was a great episode and you did a very nice job of breaking down and explaining the various elements involved.
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Hey, 42 here!
Also, in the last decade there was like at least 4 new battery technologies every year destined to change the whole battery industry and human's life. It never happened.
Considering the expense, high-inefficiency and wasted space required for solar power (large tracts of high-value farmland MUST be sacrificed for solar), and the same for wind power, not to mention the environmental damage caused by both, neither is the solution. The cost of producing solar, and especially windpower, is somewhere near $0.40/KWh, and right now, we're paying around $0.11-$0.14/KWh for electricity. Tag on a profit (no one will produce electricity for free), and you're looking at around a 4X increase in your electric bill. Add to that, recharging your vehicles every day, and - well, you get the idea. The socio-economic impact would be cataclysmic.
“General Shittery”! 😂 that’s going to get a lot more use in conversation. You produce some exceptional videos. The graphics, research and delivery of complex (impenetrable) subjects are all top level. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
Glad you did this video, it's surprising that it's not talked about as much as it should be. Battery technology and designs need to, and are going to make drastic changes shortly.
I work in the battery industry. Solid State has many problems as well. And Quantumscape is a SCAP Scam investment.
The "Baghdad battery", isn't a battery. The parts that make it up weren't found together, and could have had completely different uses.
Consistency is missing. This film did not explain why companies are hiding the truth about batteries, as the headline stated.. Further, many different types of lithium batteries where mentioned despite the fact that we are running out of lithium...😢
Was seriously thinking of investing in that company that's doing lithium sulfur batteries, then he said they were in California.
The question for me isnt only range but also how long it takes to recharge. When i can recharge a car battery in the same time that it takes to fuel up my truck now, then ill consider it.
If your charging over night it shouldn’t be a problem , when was the last time you drove a whole tank worth in a single day. I can’t remember ever doing that in the last 10 years atleast.
@@slowmomma7222 Someone's never driven between cities before...FYI, I've driven on city to city trips of ~800km here in Canada that require at least 2 gas tank refills on my Highlander Hybrid (range is usually around 600 - 700km per tank of fuel).
@@slowmomma7222 I do 50k km (32k miles) every year. More than 1 tank trips are norm.
I always thought the best solution to this would be like how service station do gas bottles. Bring your empty one in, grab a full one and away you go
@@MrElectrifyer yea I'm from Australia, its bit different here.
A decentralized energy grid sounds great economically, but remember that there are engineering challenges to getting the phases/voltages to function seamlessly together as most current power grids have spinning generators which aren't capable of adapting to a network with multiple changing inputs and outputs of power.
The last part of this video assumes that liberating the village from the cost of producing energy that it'll be able to be autonomous.
What you are not taking into consideration is that will only increase the cost of creating devices that produce and store energy. Those resources are cheap because they have no use, once they are found to be some of the most important resources in the planet, they will be taken over and controlled by countries or private companies, just like with any other valuable resource.
Also, the companies that produce the devices that will enable producing energy will realise how important their devices have become and will therefore increase the prices for them.
Wonderful video, as always so informative and well put together. I’m so delighted to see more and articles and influencers covering this issue lately!
As an RC hobbyist I am most excited for Solid State batteries. Li-Po was a huge game changer over Ni-Mh and solid state could be just as game changing. Not in terms of power but just making the batteries safer not having to worry about Dendrites or puffing/swelling
For the RC hobby li-ion (including polymer cells, same thing) cells are fine. You're probably not going to fly a 200 km/h model aircraft continuously for hours and hours. Passenger planes have different requirements :)
@@devilsoffspring5519 I totally get it. I just don’t run RC planes, I primarily run RC cars and trucks of all types from bash rigs to speed run rigs to rock crawlers. I feel like it would be most beneficial for bashers, they take a lot of abuse and one little compromise of a cell from a tiny rock finding it’s way wedged under the lipo and your RC car just went up in flames. I’ve seen it before cause I mostly bash and launch my bashers 50-80ft in the air off of jumps, so more durable batteries would be nice.
Also, he said they’ve been able to run hundreds of cycles out of solid state lithium batteries. I’m lucky to get 50 runs before the lipo start to puff and swell, sometimes less. Then completely fail around 70-80 cycles, sometimes less. My castle link on xlx2 1/5 scale RC car says it’s pulling up to 500+ amp bursts tho in the data logs, that’s a lot of draw on a battery
@@stevensaid2200 It isn't so much a shortcoming of battery technology as running excessively high current to get the performance you want out of a given size pack. As an analogy, it's been possible for decades to get 1,000+ HP per liter of displacement from a gasoline engine--over 16 HP per cubic inch. Just don't expect it to last 250,000 miles.
@@devilsoffspring5519 haha that’s so true! I won’t know how they perform until they are ready for consumption but I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t live up to my hopes and dreams lol I do realize that these cars aren’t meant to be jumped/dropped from heights of more than like 6ft, I’m a part of an extreme minority within the RC hobby . Bash it break it fix it repeat is my mantra for the last 6 years haha
@@stevensaid2200 Hehehe yeah, I used to fly RC and I quickly learned to buy the cheapest packs that got the job done. No point in a super-expensive flight battery that lasts 200-300 cycles when it gets splattered all over the countryside on the 6th or 7th flight :)
The so-called “Baghdad battery” is believed to be from the Sassanian Era, roughly 224 - 651 AD. The jar was found in Khujut Rabu just outside Baghdad and is composed of a clay jar with a stopper made of asphalt. Sticking through the asphalt is an iron rod surrounded by a copper cylinder.
The so-called “Baghdad battery” is not really a battery at all. We know this because it bears a very close resemblance to objects with an identifiable purpose found by a team of archaeologists from the University of Michigan in 1930 at the site of Seleukia, not far from Baghdad.
The objects found at Seleukia look almost just like the so-called “Baghdad battery,” but we know they were, in fact, used to hold papyrus scrolls because they all contained remnants of papyrus scrolls when they were excavated. The scroll-holders from Seleukia consist of a metal rod that the scroll could be wrapped around and a tube inside a ceramic pot that the scroll to be slid inside for protection.
Most likely, the so-called “Baghdad battery” is just a scroll container. The scroll was meant to be wrapped around the iron rod, slid inside the copper tube, and then slipped inside the ceramic container, which could then be sealed to protect the scroll inside. The acidic residue on the inside of the container most likely comes from the papyrus or parchment of the scroll that the pot once contained, since papyrus and parchment are both slightly acidic.
Eventually, the scroll decomposed, leaving the acidic residue behind.
There's a much more diverse range of battery technologies being developed for grid storage. Some of them already operational. Those are what we need if we want to store a whole town's worth of energy. You should do a video on those.
I used to work on the Zephyr drone, we were using lithium sulphur batteries 15 years ago... very exciting chemisty... and if you think Lithium ion is explosive when it goes wrong, wait till you see Lithium sulphur....
Video starts at 4:00
I have been waiting about 8 years now since I first heard about them hoping for solid state battery technology to get to a point where it gets into the consumer market. They will be such a game changer.
yeaa that would be quite difficult to make a solid state battery with high capacity and high current capability (there are already solid state batteries just for keeping the bios of the computers because they have long life). Current batteries are made from foils with the cative substance on them and separators rollsed together. It would be quite difficult to roll a ceramic separator. Also between 2 solid surfaces there are only a few points of contact and it would be difficult to make the electrodes and the electrolyte/separator so flat. As a consequence the current provided is very small.
Probably not going to happen. Do you think big tech that makes billions a year on crappy battery tech is going to give that up? Huge energy suppliers would go out of business.
they probbaly got batteies that charge themselves in the elites vaults.
The car solution is hot-swappable batteries waiting and charging wherever one goes. For monthly and per-use fee, a person could swap their battery in minutes and be on their way. This is how electric forklifts in large distribution centers are running 24/7.
I might not have much spare cash atm but this videos made me do some research into Lyten and want to invest but it's not publicly traded 😞 I think the biggest problem will be the companies that have a 'stranglehold' trying to block or control the technology themselves so they don't lose money
"Energy is always Free" and the ones in control of power knows it very well! Their work is to block us from this very idea no matter what and our work is to always keep fighting for this idea to come alive someday or the other.
Hear! Hear!
I bet you read that in a fiction book didn't you?
@@randysalsman6992 Validate your betting skill by specifically naming the "fictional" book 😊
Yea... the corporations won't pet us have electricity coca cola or Facebook.
Damm
No. Energy is not free. Never. What would make you think that, *even if it did not cost anything to distribute the energy* -- wires, maintenance, insurance, etc -- the generation itself had no cost?
Sorry. This time I can say that physics says you're wrong.
I am hoping for a breakthrough in solidstate magnesium batteries. Problem is finding proper andode/cathode pairs. It would be both hella cheap and powerful.
Lead rolled gold and graphite
People… stop using fake words like “hella”.
@@The.bo.you.never.no. Prolly the least offensive or cringe modern word contraction.
*Prolly* is another word you should stop using @@MyrKnof
And they will never let it see light. Profit is exponentially more important than effectiveness. Ruin the Earth? Shrug. entirely unsustainable? Whatever. Expensive as hell? Much better. 😊❤
❤ I love your shows. Incredibly educational and so easy to follow. Very entertaining and worthy. I think the accent helps too. LOL
Rock Onward 🎉
Reference the Baghdad Battery. When fully configured the addition of the acidic solution (ie. grape juice) does not produce a “current.” A current requires the circuit to be closed, as you would do to use the battery. Instead, the ready battery produces a “potential difference”, as stated, of 1 Volt. It's a minor but important point.
I've been hearing about new miracle batteries for decades now.
That is a very good summary of the current state the art in battery technology. Some minor comments: EV companies are increasingly using LFP (lithium iron phosphate) batteries that do not require cobalt or nickel. Sodium ion batteries are very promising for cheap grid storage but they are too heavy to be practical in EVs. Overall, I enjoyed this episode.
Na Ion Batteries will be the most prevalent for sure. However, watch out for Aluminum Ion Batteries also 🧐🤔
I am very interested in the solid state batteries but was unaware of the 2024 "possible" release date. And the community or even solo renewable generators is a great concept. You have given me more to think about!
I literally lost about everything I owned due to thermal run away. It happened so fast I was only able to save my 2 dogs. The watch I was wearing and the phone that was already in my pocket. That's it . Everything else is gone. It left me and my dogs living on the streets for 4+ months. The worst part of it is I have not been able to go back to work as a handyman because I no longer have the 20 years worth of tools I aquired while working. I have no one to help me! Don't end up like me! Be very ve y careful when dealing with lithium ion batteries. They burn hotter than the sun and will continue to burn under water. In other words you can't put the fire out once it starts. At 54 years old my life is basically over.
Also flow batteries. Not sure where it's at, currently. Then to recharge it may be more efficient putting the spent liquid in a special solar cell. UV and violet/blue light has more energy. Flow batteries are generally more scalable since marginal cost of storage isn't so bad.
I was just talking about what the next revolution in battery technology could be yesterday! Thanksies for this video! :o
i hear of new wonder batteries every month. we should have pocket reactors by now.
I've been waiting decades for my flying car...
We kind of do, RTG's are really small, the issue isn't in the technology, but rather the danger involved. Do you want to trust random humans with a pocket battery that could irradiate and potentially depopulate a few city blocks?
@@HicSvntDracones yea it would be dangerous , some would sell it for drugs or get swindled out of it also haha
No you don't.
Chemistry is fun. So today my wife told me she poured some vinegar down the sink hoping to loosen up some of the problem we are having. She also mentioned that she poured draino down the sink previously. A day previously. I missed the mention of that time gap at first. So I asked her, "Do you know what happens when you mix Draino and Vinegar?" "No", she said. I came back quickly with, "Neither do I." So she looked it up. Never mix those two things, especialy in a drain unless you would like a Draino Volcano coming back at you.
"All these materials rely on environmentally horrible processes, usually done by children"
I mean the main components for current batteries are Lithium, Manganese, and Cobalt. And of those, Cobalt is the only one that has been associated with child labor, and it's rapidly being phased out.
The Greatest story teller of all time, this guy is amazing, I love your videos man❤
Story teller ... Indeed . The man is clueless and mostly peddling a LIE .
I tried to present data of actual uses and situations we encounter in farming over the POLITICS of this lie ... YT or him blocked most of my replies . I quit ... Believe the lies .
Sorry , I am not angry at you :( ... I am angry at politics . Later Mate
How has some of you even watched it and say thanks for the info it literally dropped 2 minutes ago
He must be paying for engagement. Notice most of them say nothing indicating they watched
@@jhoughjr1 it's just RUclips bots. Every popular channel is like this
I was wondering the same thing. Some people have the NEED to be 1st in anything
I'm missing some important points in this video.
Batteries have to be able to release much energy at once, for example cars. This results in the max amperage. Most batteries are more optimized for this and less for capacity.(there are exceptions like the nuclear battery tiny amount of amps with a millions of years before it drains)
When a battery can release more energy at once it is more reactive together with energy density this could make a bomb(releasing a lot of energy quickly) in worst case scenario's, see exploding phone or laptop batteries. It will be a huge hazzard when used in households.
If you would be able to disable all powersources(incl green power) at once and connect all batteries to the grid it would result in a few minutes (if not seconds) of power. Even if you take the double energy density by weight this would hardly make a dent in the usability. Combine this with the rare elements which also have to be mined and it wouldn't be viable.
Then loss over the power cables when more power is drawn, more power will be lost in the cables. Superconductors at roomtemperature is still a discovery to make to counter this. You'll still need to charge the batteries and cables will probably not disappear. And maybe superconductors can upgrade our batteries as well.
Batteries are awesome. I love using electric powered alternatives in every part of my everyday life. But yeah, there is really no way to have one without the other. You still need the grid and steam powered power plants to charge all of them. So that means that we’ll always need to burn water to create electric power, and ruin water in the pursuit of lithium production for batteries or other very dirty mining practices to harvest other chemicals to make other types of batteries. Pollution is literally unavoidable but I think this is fine as long as huge corporations don’t act carelessly in the production and manufacturing processes to save money. Cuz when it boils down to it, everything done earth by industry is done to make a profit.
The new iPhone16 Pro. It will not only blow your mind, but also your house away 😅
It will first explode your bank account though...
I'm going to tell that to my iPhone snobbish coworker'ss. I work in the space program. Most will laugh, but others, very few, will exclaim vile blasphemy, pronounce a vile curse on me., and then laugh because they find it funny also. Same goes for Andoid users.
My manager is a huge Apple fanatic. One day, one of my Apple devotee friends ran to bossman and wailed how I was mocking the Mac. I was immediately called to be dressed down. Bossman said to me "Duce, you know your coworker is a huge snowflake. Please dont taunt him...unless I'm there."The whole office busted out laughing, even the "snowflake." I'm 70 and the "snowflake is also a boomer, about six years younger. I really dont want to retire I live my job, the people I work with, and especially the bossman. Worked with him for over 35 years
@@Urroner yeah things that never happened for 200 Alex
With you mentioning Goodenough, I was convinced you'd mention his Glass battery tech in development. From what little I had read about it it supposedly gets more efficient with more charges. (Usually batteries degrade over time)
I participated in the radio control industry cars,boats,aircraft. Helicopters and drones, I entered that world in the late 70s To recently I fly helicopters now, the technology has been absolutely crazy , and i know it will happen in the transportation arena
Energy Density, Safety, Power Density, Cycle Life, Recharge Speed, and Cost are your 6 trade offs for commercial battery adoption.
If a battery manufacturer claims otherwise, they might be selling you a bridge.
The problem with electric cars is not the range but rather that they become bricks after 7-8 years when the battery needs a replacement, and costs more than the rest of the car. The overwhelmingly biggest point of failure of a car should not be the most expensive one.
Or six months if you hit a stick on the road.
There's also the weight factor. They are currently so heavy to put enough cells into a vehicle to get usable range it makes those vehicles more dangerous to others in a collision and it also leads to more wear and tear on the roads and tires.
@@TheCoon1975
Not to mention that if you puncture a li-ion battery they go boom.
That's why a good few companies are trying to make swappable batteries a thing.
You get a "free" battery with the car and pay a rental on it and take it to a station to get it swapped by a machine that takes about the same time as filling a regular cars tank instead of charging it.
Means the battery can always be slow charged (extends lifespan), tested and repaired much easier and reduce the cost of the vehicle.
There's more potential benefits to that type of system, but the downside is multiple manufacturers have to agree on a system, the infrastructure isn't cheap and the start up cost is huge. Upsides are that such a system could be used by the power grid as a temporary storage system, the cars cost less and the batteries can last longer before needing disposed of.
The main issue is that manufacturers agreeing to work together on any system they can control and the start up costs, any business like that would make huge losses for the first few years but could make massive profits long term.
Edit - systems like this do exist, can't remember the country but at least one nation in Asia already does this with moped style bikes and it's worked well for them. There's also a car company trying to get investment with the system in place and working but not at scale yet.
@@treeherder42battery replacement stations? You sound like you are talking about Elon musk... What a simp
Never thought I would ever hear him talking about batteries with this much passion
Well,, he talks with passion about those sleep masks so I guess he can talk passionately about anything. 😂
I find the omission of long commercialized LFP batteries, which require no cobalt nor nickel a bit strange. I also wouldn't mention Na-Ion chemistry on the same page as solid state or quantum batteries, as mass production of those already started at the time this video came out.
I am 81 and I remember in the fifties they were talking about nuclear power, the slogan at that time was, NUCLEAR ENERGY WOULD BE TOO CHEAP TO METER.
The problem is, the battery industry has a 200 year track record of fanatic promises the they never deliver on. For 200 years they have been just 10 years away from the Uber battery.
it's just like cancer cure and hair loss cure. it's all money thing
There are only so many elements for the cathode and anode, there may not be a holy grail. I would think we would have found it by now.
I just seen a review of a scientific paper the other day in regards to the discovery of elements in deep space holding the atomic weight of 260... there is now a pretty substantial gap in regards to known elements 😊
I hope that's true cuz that would mean there's so much more to discover!
Do you mean Nobelium and Lawrencium? (102 and 103?) which I think had weights of 259 and 262. They didn't recently discover them, we have known about them and we have made them before back in the 60s, just not in high quantities. In fact, we made Oganesson (118) with an atomic mass of 294 in 2002.. One issue is that high-mass elements are HIGHLY radioactive and have insanely short half-lives the higher the mass goes, measured in minutes and even seconds. Nobelium is 58 minutes, and Oganesson is 0.58 milliseconds.. we would have to use them instantly as they literally start falling apart. The paper you are talking about was neat, see, normally, these high-mass elements aren't seen anywhere in nature, not even in atomic detonations, but the paper shows a good possibility that they are made in some stars. It is a great discovery when it comes to astrophysics, especially understanding the life cycles of stars, but unfortunately, they aren't useful to normal consumers.
I want to just point out that A LOT of misinformation is and has been going around about new "elements", especially in the whole "I want to believe" community, thinking that different solar systems have completely new and different elements that would solve our energy issues or that allow aliens to seemingly violate the laws of physics, which is impossible to do.... unfortunately, new elements like that don't exist, we can predict out ever possible element and its properties, the galaxy or star system doesn't change that. We aren't going to find a new replacement for lithium in Andromeda, nor is element 115 going to let us create antigravity and warp drive.. that doesn't mean we can't, we just have to find different ways of doing it, which means we need MORE scientists, engineers, and etc, but this misinfo does the opposite and dissuades people from trusting the scientific community, which just delays these awesome new technologies that we WILL have someday. I am just sort of trying to clarify that point. However, as I said, it is a very cool paper, but it is cool for other reasons, and people should absolutely read it, you can find it on the NCSU site.
For stationary usage energy density isn't relevant. Only price is. I'm already getting 80% for my home and EV electricity from solar panels and a battery made of used Tesla batteries from totaled vehicles. Grid power over here is pretty expensive (30ct/kWh), my solar battery contraption delivers for around 7 cents.
My father was a chemist. An electro-chemist specifically.
27 patents and retired from JPL. One of the world's foremost authorities on lead acid batteries.
He invented and holds the patent for the totally sealed lead acid battery.
If there was some amazing secret battery technology, he would have told me.
When it came to batteries, he was THE MAN.
ALL types of batteries.
He passed away a few years ago.....
If you'd like to Google him, his name was John J. Rowlette.