iPhone 14 Pro VS PRO Camera (it makes me mad)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Tough situations, stiff competition and massive prints... I'll just say this: it was impressive.
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These comparisons always only include photos taken in good light with mostly static subjects any camera this day in age is gonna do well. It's when you get in more challenging lighting scenarios especially capturing motion in low light where phones just fall of a clif. I have yet to see a proper comparison illustrating the real differences it's always just portrait mode and land scapes probably because that's the only 2 scenarios that phones do well. Sports action, wildlife, concerts weddings, astro, are never included in these comparisons makes me wonder if it's because of laziness or maybe is low key an advert for the iPhone.
True, I don't think it's any point to make a video of it though since it would be complete knock out, but they could have informed about it or shown few examples. As for most people, prob don't do as much sports action, wildlife, concerts weddings and astro which is also reflected by the sales numbers for system cameras going down ever since smart phones became acceptable quality for the average consumer when all factors taken into consideration.
This whole channel is about mobile phones, of course he has an agenda.
Its an iphone infomercial. This guy soon will make a video 250,000$ camera vs iphone 14
5 million$ satellite vs iphone
@@Teluric2 Avatar scene with iPhone vs Sony's best
well said bro
When I got the iPhone 13 Pro at its release I immediately set out to prove that it was nowhere close to my canon R6. Instead I proved to myself that for the majority of my own intents and purposes I no longer needed to own serious lenses within the iPhones range. So I sold all of my RF glass between 16 and 70mm and replaced it with ancient EF versions for the rare case that I need them… These days I pick up the full frame when I’m shooting between 85 and 135, and any time I need speed or studio strobes. Simply put, I think phones have absolutely dominated for general photography, I can’t see recommending a Rebel with a kit lens to anyone who owns a new iPhone, especially after you learn how to control the exposure and when you treat it like a serious camera. But when you want to lean into ANY specialty, studio portraiture, wildlife, sports, Astro, etc then a “real camera” is going to win, of course with the right lens, lighting, and knowledge.
I just want to say, what a f*&king GORGEOUS view. Wow. I swear I thought there was going to be some kind of green screen reveal or gotcha. Like it almost looks otherworldly or LOTR or something.
That is very easy to spot just look at the shadows. Iphones always try to get rid of the shadows therefore rendering incorectly. I was surprised these photographer did not spot it earlier.
How come you three keep calling the A7R3 a DSLR? It is a mirrorless system not a DSLR. Maybe add a caption at every point DSLR is said that reads "We meant mirrorless" or some shit like that. Just thought I should point that out.
Just a force of habit. It doesn't really make a difference for the video, IMO, because we're referencing a high-end, full-frame camera either way.
The phone pix are still-as one of you guys correctly said-“tricks.” Computational photography is a fancy phrase for tricks. And tricks are for kids. The freedom to customize the exposure triangle (i.e., the human brain) is king.
Agreed!
True but the tricks work so good. In many ways it's better than cameras.
Great comparison!
The future iPhone camera will be Sharper than human eye … 😳 … plus can make calls too☝🏻
This is just a nit pic (cuz who am I lol) 2:16 y’all have way to much head room kekl
Pro Camera win ❤
Is it me or do phone shots look like watercolour images when zoomed in?
Yes, I guess it's exactly what you would expect with an AI "artist" putting in the details that aren't there in the initial image.
Try the Sony vs. the galaxy s23 ultra. Ang you’ll be amazed hahahahahahahha
Iphone X Vs DSLR
Iphone XR vs DSLR
Iphone 11 vs DSLR
Iphone 12 vs DSLR
Iphone 13 vs DSLR
Iphone 14 vs DSLR
That's no end.
No matter what device, the image on those prints were great. That being said, the phones are just tools for a photographer. I can leave my house and take the D850, Fujifilm XH2, iPhone 13 Pro, my kids iPhone 8, or my old Nikon N55...(Started on,) and produce some great images. As long as I have the right lighting and composition, and camera will work. Great Video!
Well said. Any camera will be great. It's just a tool. Mobile phones have gotten so good now it's fine for most people.
If the pros have to pixel peep, the camera game is almost over.
Peeping is done to ensure a good print quality
Can’t argue with ya there
Not at all
What makes them pros? Their saying so? Please…
I mean, if you shy away even slightly off from where iphones are good at, the whole comparison falls apart and you wouldn't even need to pixel peep to notice what was taken with the correct equipment or with an iphone.
I don't want to imply iPhones are bad, as any tool they are good in some cases and bad in some others. iPhone happen to be good at exactly the things they compared in this video, while failing on other things. Same goes for cameras, the thing that cameras have on them is that you can get the correct lense to assess the situation, while an iphone simply can't, if it could it'd be no different than a DSLR or mirrorless, but with a smaller sensor.
Now, one could argue that iPhones make up for the smaller sensor with all the computational things it does, while also ignoring the fact that one can do the exact same thing with a camera in post, while also maintaining the benefits of the biggest sensor and versatility of lense choices and some other parameters.
All this to say, they had to pixel peep because they specifically chose the few things where phones were designed to be good at. Hear what the wildlife photographer said about how he's glad iPhones can't zoom in as much. Compare a wildlife photo taken with the camera to one taken with an iphone and it'd be apparent which was taken with which.
As someone that has a 13 pro and an A7IV there are pros and cons for taking pictures on both. iPhone really surprises me sometimes and other times it’s just so far off of my Sony it’s not funny. iPhone is no mirrorless replacement but it can get some good content and it’s usually the most available and least intrusive.
This video feels like "we hire an Olympics swimmer to se if we could beat him"
And then have the swimmer swim in a five inches deep puddle where he can't use any of his decades built techniques to beat them because turns out the whole competition is running across the puddle and then the three of them turn out to be decent running on a puddle.
And then claiming that Olympic swimmers are gonna be extinct soon because everyone could beat them.
No phone can match a pro camera. You can downgrade the image of procamera to make it look like taken with an iphone.
I see the grainy artifacts of a video taken with an iphone ,Do you think how would it look on a big screen? .
Dude you are glorifying iphones no matter how much you say " insane or crazy"
Great comparison, would love to see low light comparison with same cameras.
I wish the pros put more effort into these photos. Why shoot the amazing landscape not during the golden hour? When the sun is up, everything is washed out, that photo is not even worth the paper to print on. Get up early in the morning like a proper landscape photographer and shoot the sunrise, or the sunset. That jumping photo is horrible. So if you are doing snap shots, not photographs, you might as well use the iphone.
Think about what the iPhone 16 will be like and that's just realistically 2-3 years away! Crazy
Iphone can do all the task, dslr are slow, heavy, wasting so much space, time & not practical.
Very interesting to watch thanks man🤘🏼woo
Conclusion: Sony beats iPhones hands down. Using Sony for social media posts is a waste of money
I stopped buying cameras when I realized that 99% of my photos were taken with no zoom or a max of 3x zoom. So just about any good phone does all I want.
Exactly. Only in special use cases you need a camera but phones work fine for everything else.
Obviously, the video was paid by Apple, when you zoom in on iPhone the picture looks like a poo, but this video is as good as a professional camera
Where’s my money, Apple?! Ya… they’re not sending money to small-time channels like ours. If they did, I’d let you know. 👍
I'm curious how an iPhone 14 Pro compares to a 10+ year old DSLR camera.
I remember when the iPhone 4s was considered comparable to the typical point and shoot Fuji's and Canon's
The story would be similar to modern cameras. An old DSLR would be superior in all but landscape photos in good lighting. Sensor technology actually has made almost no progress in terms of image quality during the last few years. Lenses and autofocus have gotten significantly better though.
Smartphones do a great job for static subjects in good lighting and rival "real" cameras in those situations, but introducing movement in any worse lighting is where phones quickly fall apart and there is no contest compared to a larger sensor.
8:30 this light streak is because of a dirty lens!
This happens when you have smudges or fingerprints on the lens. Has nothing to do with 13 PRO or 14 PRO or any other iPhone generation.
Cell phone photos have a ton of processing including the "Raw" photos. Take any good mirrorless camera, do a 5 shot bracket and let Aurora merge the HDR and the competition is over for any static subject. The pro body will also nail the DOF every time and at every distance, while if you want a good portrait on a cell phone it must be the main sensor, it must be good lighting and you are confined to a certain range. No question cell phones have improved but you still have to handicap a real camera a lot to make them comparable. I have FF and M4/3, and the S22 ultra and for photos the S22 is indeed impressive for a cell phone but it doesn't touch even my M4/3 cameras in any way.
You gotta understand this is an infomercial .
I think that's what they did here, handicap the camera so the phones were at the same level
Or you can take a quick shot with the phone and have it on social media in 10 seconds. The convenience factor of not having to sit down and process and edit, the time you save is ridiculous for the little bit of extra quality you will get. For most people who are not camera literate, the phone is the way to go hands down. I love my Sony A7iv but you cant deny how easy it is to snap a pic and share and have it auto upload to the cloud and be saved for you family all automatically.
@@breakfastforyousoul but then you don't want a camera, for the craft of photography, you want it for social media. Which is not what the video or the conversation is about.
You Can disable hdr on the iPhone aswell in settings which I’m not sure if they did. And also, in the zoom comparison it’s not the 48 MP that is used. It’s the telephoto camera which is a 12 mp camera. So that isn’t really fair. But never the less. Of cause the camera was gonna be better. But seeing how little better is was, was pretty awesome to see actually😳
Feedback:
1. For each shot, the reveal needs text on screen (“13”, “14”, “a7r2”).
2. This video was shot on a Canon C70 cinema line camera. So to me, all your comparisons of the 13,14 & A7R2 are null & void.
3. For a meaningful comparison, you needed more shooting scenarios (low light, macro, long exposure, timelapse, video footage); some Moment/Beastgrip lenses for the iPhones.
I like the premise of your video, but the execution & clarity weren’t there for me. Have a good day 👍
Phone cameras are decent for phone viewing, in ideal light. An experienced photographer can almost immediately pick out the full frame look in these comparisons, even on the phone though. Your grandpa at the holiday party can’t tell a bit of difference.
tried them from a distance they all chose a different camera. 1 , 2 and 3. People dont tend to critic photos like you guys do. its often more about the feeling they get. Get some high end Android phones and people love the unnatural blown out look in the colors for instance. Taste is taste.
Fun fact 99% of the iphone pro users don't know how to take pro pictures from it. And then be able to edit it. So pro photographers will NOT be out of the job.
Also, a lot of people owning pro cameras use auto mode to take pictures. For them iphone is a better choice.
A lot of APS-C and not so good cameras will certainly disappear. But iphones are not cheap.
Back in the film days this would be like comparing a Kodak Instamatic with a Nikon F5. No one would even see the validity of trying to make such a comparison.
Just returned from Scotland and Ireland. Safe to say that 90% of the people I saw were using their phones for photos. Very few cameras over 14 days.
Pretty wild isn’t it?
@@runthejoules I was really surprised to see this since we haven’t been traveling lately. Seriously considering selling off my beloved camera gear and downsizing to a smaller hi end camera. I’m a novice so the features you mentioned are not a big factor for me.
I have 13 pro max and now i'm sad for these results .. 14 pro and pro max have better cameras
And the 15 comes out tomorrow! Let’s see what happens there.
@@runthejoules Could you please do a similar video on this? 15 pro or max? This video is epic
I could yell right away the fake bokeh you should always under expose for highlights on a camera shooting raw and bring up shadows
That was fun - great comparison!
Thanks!
To be fair, A7iii photo should use Photoshop to compare 2 smartphone computacional pictures.
Sony just won
the pic names under spoils what phone it is. 01 is 14 76 is 13, kinds ruined it
It’s a good time just to love the game of photography & videography!
Quite an interesting comparison. But I guess these days when you "can" capture almost everything with your phones and are meant for social media, you won't need those big camera bodies. But, if you are being specific with your needs, I think those "big bodies" are unrivalled by small sensors. My friends and I are pixel peepers, and we are blown away by the quality of iPhone photos! BUT... as @Nathan Jimenez pointed down there, iPhone has some drawbacks too as the details are not as good when it struggles due to fewer lights. As a good "quick to capture" device, I love the iPhone and the videos come out quite nice too.
Is that jay guy single?????
Good job! Great vid :)
4:28 2 Iphones, 2 .tiff extensions... so, first one is camera 🤣🤣🤣
Sony🎉
Cool video Gang! Nice to see Canadian content! Speaking as a seasoned AmPro (more amateur than pro), I'm always reminded of the old saying... "The best camera is the one you have with you". I have a ton of great gear, but when the chips are down and I don't have a camera in the car with me... I'm so glad I have my phone with me.
They really just left the photos in the same order 😂
What’s it like indoors with low light ??
The problems I have is as soon as you look up close or try to crop, take a moving shot in less than bright sunshine, or try to recover lost detail in the highlights or shadows, the phone shots fall apart.
So can a phone replace a mirrorless or dslr for a Pro, no it can’t, even if you don’t process the raw files which all pros would, especially before going to print.
You're probably not shooting in RAW then.
Why not compare the iPhones to some MFT stuff and see how this compares. Why? Because for the price of a current THROW AWAY CAMERA (aka iPhone) you can easily get a cheap Android (like Moto E22) AND some used or even new MFT gear. And which each iPhone NOT BOUGHT someone can get FANTASTIC LENSES. Smartphones will not come even close to the results of my over 10 year old Panasonic body... . As nothing beats real optics Androids like the Phantom have now a retractable lens (!) like those old point-and-shot pocket-cameras. At least REAL bokeh and not that sh** the iPhone for double the price procues... . But still: MFT will win AND - those old bodies are really small - no excuse to leave them at home...
Isn't it fun watching "professionals" calling the a7r3 a dslr😆
Funnier yet is pretending an iphone can match a prosumer camera saying " its insane" " crazy" etc
People who have been shooting professionally for a long time have known pro cameras as SLR-style cameras a lot longer than mirrorless-style cameras. Mirrorless cameras can also really be anything from an A7R3 to a point-and-shoot to an iPhone -- none of them have mirrors. I stand by our "mistake" haha.
The hdr on phone is a dead giveaway
Hmmmmm .... bright light photography!
Redo it in low light or maybe just with overcast.
And ... also consider using a focal length that do not match the main camera in the phone. Wider or narrower.
That said ... the iPhone 13 did not really stand up to competition.
lol i knew 3 was the sony immediately viewing from my note 9 phone..
I’d like to see which iPhone off the two takes the best MACRO photos of a Pink Sapphire. I already have a 13 and it’s nothing special.
Great job guys great comparison 🤙
Great video, was an interesting watch. Will you be reviewing the GoPro 11 mini anytime?
Thanks! I hope to get my hands on the 11 Mini soon. Cheers
Thankx for the great video. I find the result quite sad though. But i guest this is the reality in 2023. At least you can not zoom in on those telephonfotos ;-).
Hunter's honest response is refreshing 😂
Wish you would have written the name of each camera over the photos after you made your guesses. Anyways good video :)
I am not sure but I looked through your videos in your channel and I have not seen anything for Samsung galaxy flagship phones. I am having a hard time choosing between the 14 pro vs S23 ultra camera wise. I like your all's videos and would love to hear your opinions about the mentioned devices.
Been looking for a video like this for awhile now
The best camera is the one that is used the most. Period.
Nope - the one which gives the most satisfaction. Which everyone has to define for himself. For me its quality over quantity. So I left the iPhone camp and bought a cheap Moto E22 - too bad nobody offers a cheap with a SINGLE back camera anymore. If I leave home I have at least a 12 year old MFT with me - no iPhone can produce such pictures as it does...
Phones do really well on landscape photos nowadays, and well enough for portrait photos with some luck, but do wake me up when they start to get macro photos right.
Thats why we're not professionals anymore, it was our only trick! hahah i like her :)
Ah yes, my favorite camera, the PRO Camera™!
Please review osmo action 3 🙏
I love your sunglasses. What model are they?
crazy
The fact when all those cameras were made by Sony.
Amazing work, thanks dudes
The 14 Pro ( MAX )
IS CRAZY 😂
Sir. Best camera for faimly photography.. a7riii or a7c. Which best amazing sharpnes excilent lowlight image. i want chose which one camera... plzzzz guide me
Any camera ca be good for that. I have d700 that was released in 2007 and this camera is real deal u can get it for 200 eur on my side and new lens 50mm 1.8g for 220 eur. You can make stuning photos with that old grandpa camera. If you want newer camera chose the one you like. I chose for myself sony a7 iv, before that nikon z6, z5, z50 all are incredible cameras
I’d like a comparison where they give the same camera to a professional photographer, an instagrammer and a granny and send them to a commercial assignment and see which is better!
Well we know who wins in composition and who can get the best out of the camera. But here's the thing. It's not the camera or even the photo but taking the picture is the end itself not the means.
No android phone can defeat iphones camera. I know, im an android user tho.
You say that you re android user because you know people wont believe ..anyway I dont believe you
Android is better and I m an iphone user😃
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Not very professional shooting landscape vertically 😅
Only a true professional could pull that off 🤌😂
A profesional wouldnt compare an iphone to a procam
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When i click photos from my 14 pro, for the first 3 seconds I see an almost great image and then it auto enhances and applies some sort of effect which completely ruins the photo every single time (sharpened). how does one fix this?
PIs help:/
Sometimes the phone does a great job with auto adjustments and sometimes... not so much. You can go in and edit the image after the fact, so maybe try doing that to get the look you're after. Shooting in Raw may help with things as well.
Yea especially the weird greens🤮 sometimes increasing tint and decreasing the warmth helps but still
If you shoot raw can't you post in Lightroom and process as you wish?
If you take the photo through Lightroom Mobile with the quality set to DNG it does no processing that I’m aware of and bypasses all the fake camera trickery and processing.
location on the mountains please? that looks amazing
That's Quarry Lake in Canmore, Alberta
@@runthejoules thank you very much kind sir
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Nice review excellent job
Glad you liked it 🍻
Try with s23 ultra 200mp.. you will see more details.
O may be won't 🤫😁
Hey this is an iphone infomercial can you see it?
For this guy an iphone is better than a 5 million $ satellite.
@@Teluric2 I love iPhones if they give freedom of customization like android, specially file transfer (basic one). Both samsung knox and iPhone security are comparable, but not sure apple gives more premium value than other brands in world.
My s23U will kill these photos lol
Why you didn't use proraw?
We did use ProRaw. I believe that's the only way to get the full res out of the 1x sensor on the 14 Pro. We could have stated that more clearly though, for sure! Thanks
Everybody do not care about the photos, it is all about vids. What a waste of time video)