Top 10 Things You Missed in Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2023
- The new "Dungeons & Dragons" movie is jam-packed with awesome details! For this list, we’ll be looking at little details, references, and easter eggs you might’ve overlooked in the first good “D&D” movie: "Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves". Our countdown includes Familiar Locations & Spells, The Directors’ “D&D” Roots, Themberchaud, and more! Which “D&D” nods did you appreciate the most? Let us know in the comments.
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Missed opportunity: Themberchaud should’ve been talking.
Soo I wanna point out something you missed in the Mimic portion. There were actually 2 Mimics in the movie.
Yes, I watched the movie. And yes, I play the game.
You blew the fresh cut grass part.
You didn't mention the spell nor did you include Sam's comment in the clip about being named after the smell, which was the reference in the movie. Also the spell is prestidigitation, which can create a smell, which in the case of the movie is the smell of fresh cut grass. There is no spell called "fresh cut grass".
@@ymeynot0405 No surprise at all given the video's creators apparently know nothing about D&D. Over half the things in this video they think watchers didn't know were common knowledge & intentional references for any D&D player.
My favourite bit was the Paladin, who must have been the DM’s super awesome level 20 NPC who showed up all the other players and was just great at everything.
When you realize that, weirdly, the paladin in the movie was both the most charismatic and yet the one with the absolute worst social skills.
He's 11th level by his offical statblock
@@ItamarO93 Where did you read this? Because i have a sudden need...
@@hannahoo8919 all the characters’ stat blocks (as well as some magic items from the movie) were released for free on D&D Beyond
All of the characters’ comments about him feel like they were just the players saying stuff about him out of character and they treated it as if it were the characters saying it. It’s so perfect.
I can't believe nobody is talking about the Hither Thither staff.
A DM having to invent a portal staff after the party fails his super awesome puzzle that works like a portal gun because it is, that was great but what is brilliant is that the party actually uses it later for the heist.
It's also the point where it becomes clear the paladin is just the DM's character.
Thank you! Yes!
Lol, YES. I caught that and I loved it.
How is the paladin the DM? Please explain, never played the game
@ivanlee6642 , the Paladin is just TOO good, he is there at the exact point where the group have hit a dead end, he is overly, conveniently, powerful.
And the moment he has done what the DM needed him to do, off he goes!
DM's will often introduce such a character to help a quest along.
@@sk8fuze thanks
One of my favorite little details was when they get to the underdark, only Edgin and Holgar, the humans, carry laterns. Simon and Doric don't need them, as Halfelves and Tieflings both have darkvision.
I totally missed that good catch
this is a finding that I immediately explained to my friend after the film ended-
@@ninjastreet5
Same!
Except those two guys next to me werent my friends, I didnt even know them. I just had to tell someone...
Isn't that infravision?
@@Avatar2312 They got rid of the different vision divisions with 3/3.5. It's all darkvision or low light now. Magical can also be considered a type of 'vision' as well when detect magic or similar is used. Unfortunately, heat/infravision went the way of the dodo long ago.
An extremely minor one: At one point in the final fight Simon accidentally hit his girlfriend with a fire bolt and she didn't skip a beat because she was resistant to fire.
Didn't notice that, great catch!
Noticed her get hit, but placed her lack of reaction on a cgi blunder. You're spot on though that she'd have resistance.
damn that was a good one!
Good catch! I was just reading her stat block on Beyond and saw her fire resistance and was trying to think when that came into play but I didn’t see that one! Oh well, guess I have to watch it again!🤷🏻♂️🎟️😁
another very minor one, when they first enter Neverwinter you see them walk under an archway with two creatures running around above them, those little terrors are Rust Monsters. Low CR menaces that are the bane of every player with a metal (especially if its magical) item.
I think my favorite little Easter egg was when Doric threw the rock at Sophina to break her concentration oh her spell. So subtle, but very well-placed!
I didn't get it. What is so special about throwing a rock?
@@purpl361 A caster that take damage can "lose" any spell that requires concentration.
@@purpl361 you only need to receive 1 damage to be forced to roll a concentration check on a spell, and a minimum you have to roll is 10, no matter how little the damage is. So one of the best ways to ruin concentration is probably Magic Missile, or in this case, throwing a pebble. xD
@@Tesoro1996 thanks!
YES AS A DM I LOVED THAT
That "8 Int Gang" moment with the intellect devourers really got me 😂
Me too, our party has 9 members, our average int is 8.5 ... the one with most int has 12...
The number 1 dump stat. No artificer no wizard? No problem
As Brennan Lee Mulligan once said, nearly every 5e party is a bunch of hot idiots.
@@soldierbreed I miss the days of 3.5e where you _couldn't_ have INT as a dump stat, because skill points were entirely dependent on them. You couldn't be an idiot savant in 3.5e.
That got me too.
A little attention to detail I noticed was that, mainly in the finally fight, everyone fought in turns. The choreograph was smooth from one action to the next, but only one person attacked at a time, and then the next person, and then the next. Sort of like the turn based initiative combat in a real dnd fight
Yes! And the fight where they were supposed to be beheaded?! Just smoothly went to edgin and I could clearly see “edgin what are you doing?” “I’m gonna cut the rope on my hands with the stair” “uh. Roll dexterity?” “That was a 6” “nothing seems to happen” “damn” (later) “edgin its your turn again what are you doing?” “You said that holga killed one of the guards?” “Yes” “and they all had swords right?” “…yes…” “I’m going to take one of the dead guards swords between my knees to cut off the rope.” “Go ahead and roll dexterity.” “Aha! 18!” “You’re now free. Holgas already killed everyone though.”
Honestly, I expected all the fights to be like that. I didn't like the "solo" scenes as during D&D campaigns we always fight as a group instead of running wild against 4, 5 enemies.
Did the "turns" all lasted 6 seconds thought? Like, did it take 6 second before we got back to the top of the initiative? (Felt faster from what I remember! lol)
More of a homage what a real dnd fight would look like. There is no turns in the real fight and all character turns happen simultaneously.
@@ChevaliersEmeraude A "round" is 6 seconds. A "turn" is "10 rounds".
9:37 ,,There was me, there was oatmeal, there was apple pie…” Come on WatchMojo, 3 more words to perfection😂
guess they didn't have the guts to put in the last member of that party
Shame they didn't mention all of Dancer's favorite smells...
Gotta save that moment for the campaign. Can't spoil a great laugh like that.
I mean he has his buzzsaw. He needs to be reffered.. 😂
Yeah, I was waiting with a "Really, they're going there?!? How are they going to do this... aww... cowards!!" :)
I kind of wondered how some of the scenes would have played out if it was a real D&D campaign...
DM: "Your backstory earns the sympathy of the judges, and they consent to pardon you just as the fourth aarakocra judge walks in-"
PLAYER: "Wait. I want to see if I can escape by overpowering the aarakocra judge and using him as a crude hang glider to get out of the prison."
DM: "...You just passed the charisma check."
PLAYER: "Yeah, but I want to try that."
DM: "You want to end up being a fugitive instead of a free man?"
PLAYER: "Just let me roll!"
PLAYER 1: "Alright, now we go through the portal on the picture."
DM: "The portal opens to a stone floor. Apparently, the picture has fallen over."
PLAYER 1: "What the hell?! We spent all that time getting the money to buy that portrait, find the glue tree sap, and passed all those damn dexterity checks on the wagon just for that?!"
PLAYER 2: "You just really want us to use the helmet, don't you?"
DM: "Hey, I didn't plan out that entire Underdark side quest for you NOT to use it!""
PLAYER 1: "Fine..."
PLAYER 2: "You do it if you want. My character stays behind and tries to chip a hole on the floor big enough to shapeshift through."
DM: "That's nearly impossible."
PLAYER 2: "Then I'll just keep at it until I get a natural 20."
Player: "Just tell me how many turns until the hole is worm-shaped."
DM: "Until it's what?"
Player: "...wildshape."
DM: *Sigh*
Just much i want to make a comment about the illusion for guards i don't know how to do this since i don't play dnd but it was fun reading comment like this
It’s amazing how when the people making the movie *actually like* the source material and want to do it justice, the movie does well. Who would have thunk?
Not Disney.
According to Wikipedia it didn't break even, which is a shame because it is a very good film
I loved the attention to detail when it came to the Sorcerer. Like how he had to attune to the helmet, or his component pouch on his waist, or how at one point someone covered his mouth, and he couldn't cast any spells anymore (verbal component).
Going to use that last one some time when my DM isn't expecting it, tbh. ;)
I mean the attunement wasn't anything like in the game and nothing would actually stop any character from attuning
@@snowman9631 it was technically as some items have specific requirements to attune. Like the legendary hammer Whelm needed a dwarf (or a dwarf-like individual like Omin Dran) to attune. The Helm of Disjunction from this movie needed a worthy sorcerer to attune.
@Rasleigh Gaw you can have class specific items, but nowhere did they say anything like that. Also, there was nothing "worthy" about it. All he did was realize that it was his own doubt holding him back.
@@snowman9631 it's more like what the sorcerer himself said, "huh, guess I was holding myself back" and the fact it seems he was a charisma based caster, self-esteem is key
I was so happy when they acknowledged “fresh cut grass” from Critical Role. I only wish Sam Riegel or anyone else in the Critical Role cast made a cameo in this movie
That was a fun one
As someone who is a hardcore prestidigitation user... please we need more of this
@@darthvolcaniz503 amen
@@kittensmiles8704 I wholeheartedly agree
Here's hoping there's more movies to come and we could get some cameos from the CR Crew
This is admittedly stretching "D&D Nod" from just official D&D lore to typical campaign shenanigans, but my favorite has to be after Simon collapses the bridge and then identifies Holga's stick as basically a portal gun, which ends up being more useful than the helmet they were looking for. That is 100% the DM being unprepared for the party failing the puzzle at Step 0 and pulling something out of thin air to keep the quest going, not realizing the implications of what they just gave the party until too late.
By the same token, honorable mention to when the painting they attached a portal to just falls flat on the ground apropos of nothing; that is the DM realizing that the item they hastily gave the party to get past that obstacle is snapping the campaign in two, so they contrived that reason for the plan to fail to force the party to think of something else.
The Paladin used divine sense to detect the undead servants. What got me was that he smelled evil like it was a fart that just drifted through the room and reached him
it never said it can't be a sense of smell, its how each person interprets the spell on how it works. Which is what makes DND great, its just basic rules, and you get to do whatever you want within the confines of the basic rules. When he smells around, any that knew that as paladin they can sense evil, I was laughing because I was like that is so cool they did it that way, I will do it on my own campaign now.
Literally have a Gnoll in our campaign who uses his devine sense as smell
@@enightc exactly. This movie embraced "flavor is free" so hard. Just look at the two different Bigby's hands: Safina's is obviously a necrotic, rotted hand, while Simon's is more elemental given that he's a wild magic sorceror.
@@romxxii Visually, it looked like Maximilian’s Earthen Grasp, but functionally it was Bigby’s Hand.
There's a bit when Doric breaks the necromancer's concentration at a key moment, when negates a spell and saves a party member. That was a clutch play that would work perfectly in a session.
Fresh Cut Grass isn't a spell, the spell is probably Prestidigitation which can, among a bunch of other effects, create smells.
YeH he was using cantrips (prestidigitation) and level 1 spells (Blur) during that scene because he was using his quicken metamagic feat to cast them while maintaining concentration on Telekinesis
@@Zolthux Quickening a spell doesn't impact concentration, just casting time. Assuming he was using Telekinesis, controlling the ongoing spell requires your action - which would be a reason to quicken the lower level stuff.
If we really want to nitpick, both Telekinisis and Blur are concentration and shouldn't be able to be maintained at the same time, but hey - its a film and it was fun.
@@ryanbratley6199 I think we're both saying the same thing regarding the spells he was using w his feat.
But yeah. Blue rule of cool etc
Yeah but that doesn't negate the possibility that specifically producing the smell of "Fresh Cut Grass" is meant to be a little nod to CR
@@ericsmith1508 Absolutely, but the claim that its a specific spell is still wrong.
I love how they glance over Ed telling Simon to keep holding everything. He has a bag of holding
Wow, didn't even catch that. Though to be fair I have only been in one or two campaigns that ended after like two sessions cause scheduling.
Oooooh I wondered if that was official. That's exactly what we do in our campaign. Hand all the loot to the player with the bag of holding, and let him deal with organizing it 😂. I didn't check his stat block until now and that makes sense.
One little Easter egg I noticed was Themberchaud's mouth sparking, as though he were trying and failing to use his fire breath. In D&D, once a dragon uses its breath weapon, it needs to roll a d6 to determine if it gets its breath weapon back.
Themberchaud actually isn't able to produce flames anymore. He can only produce flammable gas. So they did stick to the lore. :)
@@c.krueger9530 Huh, TIL. I actually didn't really know anything about Themberchaud previously.
@@c.krueger9530 so, is that then how dragonfire in general works, and chonky boi is just unable to ignite it?
@@Hazearil yeah. His flintstones are broken? Who knows xD
@@c.krueger9530 i do see the flameable gas when themberchaud about to use fire breath
When the cast of the 80's cartoon showed up, I absolutely lost my sh*t!!! And when I found out they're played by the original voice cast, the world suddenly became beautiful and everything made sense!!
Can you elaborate a bit on this one
I guess it's not a spoiler since the clip is used in promotional material. So anyway, in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment, five people show up dressed like the cast in the 80's cartoon. And it's the five original voice actors playing them. So great!
@@StageLXdk Me and my friends looked into this and that is not possible. The voice actor of Presto (Wizard character) died earlier this year and all of them are 60+ years old.
So I wonder where this rumour came from.
@@leevio The film was actually filmed years ago, and it could at the very least be their voices. Also de-aging is a thing now.
@@leevio yeah, any movie that comes out is usually filmed a couple of years before.
One thing I loved about the movie was that they would throw in little nods that they didn't belabor or even draw much attention to. For normal viewers, most people either would miss it completely, or would just nod along and ignore it as filler.
One great example of this was near the end, when someone mentioned that Simon had reversed gravity, and Doric immediately stopped what she was doing and shouted "You did that?!"
Based on the spells and other aspects shown, the party was probably level 4, maybe 5, and Simon and Doric both were probably limited to Level 2 spells. Reverse gravity is a SEVENTH ranked spell, something that would require a sorcerer to be level 13 to cast. The only reason he was able to cast it was an accident with "Wild Surge", but the fact that he did so at all would be impressive to such a low level druid. That could be said to be the point that she started to actually consider the possibility that they could start dating again, since it showed he DID have some skill once he got some more confidence.
To a normal viewer however, her response "You did that?!" was probably seen as more along the lines of "Why would you do that" or "wow, you can actually cast magic after all," rather then the impressive feat of casting something over 3 times as difficult as he should be able to access.
That's the beauty (and terror) of playing a wild magic sorcerer. Spells that may happen with a failed wild surge can be beyond the caster's level / ability. It is technically possible (if highly unlikely) that a Level 1 sorcerer could fail his / her surge and fireball the party, resulting in instant TPK. That actually happened with the Epic NPC Man D&D Campaign, when Baradun cast major image, failed his surge, and then rolled a 08 on the percentage die (07 or 08 results in fireball at caster's feet). Thankfully, they were all Level 5 and able to survive the blast.
Wouldn't Doric have to be at least level 9 since she can turn into flying creatures?
Got it.. using high tier level magic impressive druid
No, druids have to be level 8 to take forms with a flight speed
She would, however, have to be at least level 9 to turn into an owlbear, assuming the DM allows non-Beast wildlife. Circle of the Moon subclass, CR of wildshape forms can be up to 1/3 your druid level, rounded down, and owlbears are CR 3
Couldn't just choose one detail, the whole movie just felt like a D&D campaign: the quick and random thinking, the chaos and stumbling in their actions (obvious nod to bad rolls)... It was such a fun watching this movie. Wouldn't mind a series of movies like this, all with different parties and such.
Dorric is specifically a Master of Many Forms (or atleast that would explain why she shifts so much) which is a 3E subclass that has the prequitise of polymorph or wildshape, It allows the player to seamlessly shapeshift into all animals and even magical beasts. Which would explain her Owlbeqe form.
Dont forget that they can drawn on more editions than just 5E.
One D&D's Druid recently came out, and they can shift wild shape forms at will and be an owlbear.
@@quiquecarretero8333 Hmm, might have to look into One D&D now
I double checked the book where the archetype is from. From what I've gathered, MoMF doesn't give you the ability to change into magical beasts/monstrosities. As per the book, it says "At 1st level, she can assume a humanoid form with wild shape. She later gains the ability to assume the form of a giant (at 2nd level), a monstrous humanoid (at 3rd level), a fey (at 4th level), a vermin (at 5th level), an aberration (at 6th level), a plant (at 7th level), an ooze (at 8th level), an elemental (at 9th level), and a dragon (at 10th level)."
None of those describe an owlbear or are any of it's types.
IIRC, Doris can turn into Owlbear because it is such an iconic creature and the directors felt like it'd be a missed opportunity not to grant her Owlbear form. Plus, the film seems to simplify classes to casual audience by emphasizing on their signature features. In Doris' case, she's a druid so her Wild Shape is more versatile and powerful than actual druids in-game.
Nah, it's just a table ruling
my favorite bit the the whole film has to be "guard this with your life. never let it leave your sight." "totally, hold this." and the person he hands it to has a bag of holding, you can see it in the scene where the gang is running to the arena in neverwinter to battle sofina
That's entirely D&D accurate. How much stuff does our party have? I dunno, the guy with the bag has it written down somewhere 😂
Bonus reference: The sorcerer is named Simon? Interesting, as I remember playing an old point-and-click adventure game called "Simon the Sorcerer".
Apparently the writers/directors were asked about that in a German interview and they were confused about the coincidence.
@@timidalchemist8475 No kidding? I wonder if that caused a bit of worry. "OOOOOOOH crap...whose copyright did we violate?!?"
It is actually a Biblical reference. In the new testament a man called Simon the Sorcerer approached either the apostles (or Christ himself, I don't remember off hand) after seeing them perform miracles and asked if he could pay them to teach him their powers.
@@timidalchemist8475 Glad someone asked ^_^
A very minor detail, but very cool all the same: During the early introduction brawl with Simon at the stage, he wrestles with another man present. Simon tries to cast a spell, but the man shoves his hand over Simon's mouth, immediately blocking the spell from going off, which is an incredibly cool and minor detail in actual D&D rules that spells require the caster to speak verbal components in order for a spell to go off. If they can't speak it, and the spell calls for it, the spell will not go off.
As a sorcerer Simon needs to invest in subtle spell lol
@@soldierbreed He's a wildmagic sorcerer. He's anything but subtle
@@soldierbreed i'm actually impressed by the spellcasters' concentration checks
@@jaives and the druid dropping out of wild shape after taking too much damage. nice little details.
Because of this i have a question do they not have a spell that block someone mouth completely for how long they can?
I saw it with my family yesterday (both my parents were in campaigns when they were in their mid to late 20's and my dad was a dm during the pandemic with me, and a few of our close friends and relatives and ran two different campaigns.) We enjoyed ourselves and it felt like we're apart of the campaign and we're along for the ride. I do hope they consider making a spin-off movie or even a sequel for that matter. There is so much you can do with that world it is unreal.
D&D is the richest gaming experience perhaps possible.
I look forward to many, many more movies in this franchise.
One focusing on Drizzt Do'Urden is particularly appealing.
In the fight between Gorg and Xenk in the underdark, there's a brief moment where the stones they step on resemples a hex grid battle mat
One detail that I personally loved but I haven't seen in any list is that when they entered the Underdark only Edgin and Holga held lanterns because they are the only ones without dark vision.
And what about the lvl 20 NPC paladin? Where does his dark vision come from?
@@KorsarNik Its a lvl 20 DMNPC paladin I'm sure he get that somwhere in between level ups
For the record, the spell isn't "fresh cut grass" it's "prestidigitation", one of the most versatile cantrips in the game, one of it's effects is to produce a smell. The flame finger was likely also prestidigitation as another effect is to ignite a candle, torch, or campfire within 10 feet, since it isn't made explicit in the rules *how* you go about doing this, having a small flame appear on the finger tip that you can then use to light a candle is a pretty valid way to interpret the spell. Alternatively he might have just had something flammable like a piece of wick stuck under his fingernail, although that would likely hurt if not handled *very* carefully.
Yes, it's clear that she is just a talking head reading a script curated by someone with no real knowledge of the subject matter.
The flame finger that Simon uses might be Produce Flame rather than Prestidigitation.
@@AdderTude Possible, but rather unlikely, Produce Flame is a druid spell, the only way for a sorcerer to get it short of multi class is via a feat like Magic Initiate, and we don't see him use any other druid spells. Additionally, I would imagine he'd have used it in one of the many fight scenes if he had it, given it's an attack cantrip. Also, the amount of light produce flame gives off suggests to me that it produces rather more flame than we see in that scene, but that could easily just be differing interpretations of the text.
I love that Sign is picking up steam for Magic casting. I seriously think writers have been missing an opportunity with Sign. Like any stealth or magic character in any fantasy, or sci fi setting could easily use sign. And then it becomes this unique and cool "secret" language that kids will want to learn, so it can be good all around.
I know Drow have a form of sign to communicate without speaking to coordinate attacks and maintain the element of surprise
In that scene when they entered the arena with the other groups, I was like "why does that one group look like a bunch of dorks in Halloween costumes?" and my man told me they were a throwback to the 80's cartoon.
There's a mimic disguised earlier in the game in the back of a cart. Also there's a shot that is a nod to the Skyrim opening, along with a mention of Balder's Gate. They clearly love their fantasy games along with DnD
Baldurs Gate is a location in Forgotten realms
@@bleepboopwas really hoping to see Minsc and Boo.
''The directors both possesed affection for the source material'' golden buzzer moment
I have never played Dungeons & Dragons but I enjoyed every minute of the movie. It was so much fun and joy to watch! Would not mind a sequel or two:😁
Lol lol lol lol
Same I'm out here reading the comments and reading about everything I missed I would definitely like more movies especially since this movie seems to have been made with love and great attention to detail.
The parte where they can only ask 5 questions got me HOLLERING😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds arbitrary.
How many times has this happened
Even the Living Dead Had One-Liners In This Movie.
Speak with Dead is a hoot if your not smart about it. You have only so many spell slots per day. If you noticed after the first frag up they ask what questions they needed to ask then cast the spell and asked the questions.
Needs to be a recurring character.
I love how it's redundant to say "this was actually from the game!" EVERYTHING WAS FROM THE GAME! They really made everything completely solidly based on the game's classic settings.
The baby Rust Monsters. The Axebeaks...The characters. Seeing Selune's Tear's. Neverwinter. Heck the entire film
Were those the things crawling above when they were going to behead them in the alley?
@@kapnkerf2532 yes
True story: When I went to see the movie and they mentioned that they have to go to Underdark, everyone was like "Oh no..". That brought a smile on my face.
Another thing you might have missed: There’s a shot right before the sorceress casts the horn spell at the games where you can see someone in the crowd (pretty close up) who I swear had to be Tom Morello from Rage Against the Machine/Audioslave.
it was.
The moment they enter in the tower of the harpers to steal the artifacts the camera shifts to top down vision, looking like the maps and tokens used for play RPG on tabletop.
Yusss!
I'm surprised nobody noticed that the movie used the tavern theme from the Baldur's Gate PC game
9:36 YOU DON'T, I repeat, you just DON'T cut one of Sam's legendary moments
for PG 13 sake
@@dopiley what's so PG13 about loving the smell of animal dander?
True...
@@romxxii Everyone loves cats...
Tom Morello guitar player for Rage Against The Machine, and avid DND player also makes a cameo in the movie.
Right? He was in the audience at the games?
@@Kasino80 Yes.
I thought I recognized him in the games audience
I´m not sure if it´s an intended reference, but Simon being a sorcerer was for me a clear reference to SImon the Sorcerer, an old video game series, made me laugh in cinema 😂
I loved how the bard says he will guard the helm with his life then immediately hands it to the sorcerer. This is a great joke but more importantly for a dnd player would definitely remember a time when they received or found an important item that they sooner or later end up giving to a party member who can actually use it. I found a giant hammer once and I was a halfling mage, so I obviously gave it to the half-orc barbarian😂👍
Having ambition is all it takes to make a videogame adaptation work
That's why most videogame adaptations in the past failed, because the studio hired people that didn't understand videogames or filmmaking
That's why recent adaptations like "Detetive Pikachu", "Sonic The Hedgehog", "The Last of Us" and "Arcane" worked, because the people behind it understood the games and the media
You know that Sonic only worked because massive fan backlash to his original look forced the animators to revamp all the Sonic scenes.
@@benwasserman8223Actually it worked because Jim Carrey was in it.
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I have a theory that you just described why super hero movies took so long to gain traction, too. The directors & higher ups need to understand, love & respect the source material. Think about it: In the 80's, movies based on Superheroes were uncommon because most now-iconic Marvel Comics characters were only 20 years old (having been around since only the 60's, for the most part, that is.) and most directors didn't grow up loving them, being older dudes. Sure, the first two Superman movies were made from love, but he has been around since the late 30's. And the Batman mythos would have been difficult to separate from the Adam West-era campiness during that era, so who knows WHAT that would have looked like!
I want SO BAD to know what superhero films would look like with practical effects as opposed to CGI, but when I think of what they would have been like without having been made from love? Maybe what we have now is better.
And yeah, video game adaptations in particular I'm glad to see entering their first golden age.
I wonder when live-action anime/manga adaptation films will enter THEIR renaissance,,,
Uncharted was great too
The ending with the owlbear and the sorcerer had me rolling. So many D&D references and callbacks. I'd love to see a more serious D&D story with as much care taken as this did, but I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. If you've ever played D&D this is exactly what it is like. Hilarity and chaos, but also epicness and deep narrative.
OMG one of the directors palyed sweets on bones 🤣
Minor correction: Hank in the cartoon was a Ranger, not a hunter.
the movie is incredible! all the caracters are so well made and played, my favorite was for sure doric. She looked so good with the elven ears and the red hair!
Sophia Lillis is so adorable as a druid
This was such a good movie! I got to see this with my crew last night and it was the perfect way to do it.
Yes, it might be fun to have CR in it, but also Dimension 20. Both groups are highly influential.
I WOULD LOVE SOME D20 CAMEOS OR EASTER EGGS!!!
I know Jarnathan was an Aarakokra. But I'd *like* to think its a reference to John Feathers 😅
I didn't get it the first time, but the evil wizard wears a Hat of Disguise to change her appearance aand hide her red robes.
I think Mojo missed the shout out in the next-to-last scene when Hugh was carrying the chalice that he had gotten from the palace....
I had a disagreement with the group I saw this with: is it a Bigby’s battle, or does Simon use Maximilian’s Earthen Grasp? Also, does Xenk use smite in the underdark battle or is it “Holy Weapon”? Also, hot take, I don’t know if Edgin is a bard; he never uses any spells and his backstory sounds more like an oathbreaker paladin
Also, Sofina was 100% a Warlock, not Wizard. If I had to guess, undead warlock with the OG necromancer as her patron.
If he was seriously a bard then I was super disappointed at the lack of casting. Tasha’s Hideous Laughter, Message, Healing Word, Minor Illusion?! Anything! Still enjoyed the movie but that was my one gripe
@@MrsShantastic someone also suggested that he might be a Mastermind Rogue
D&D Beyond published the characters' stat blocks the other day. Simon uses Bigby's Hand, and Edgin is a Bard (just not a particularly competent one).
Xenk didn’t smite which was kinda sad, but that magic was his sword blade reattaching for the daggersword
That was so neat how they put characters from animated movie and almost everyone missed it
To be fair, they were one of several parties in the arena, most of whom get killed (I swear the woman they kept showing in this video getting mauled by the displacer beast looked like the same actress who played Sofina the Red Wizard), plus the pacing was incredibly fast. I loved the cartoon as a kid, but haven't seen it since the 80s, so I totally missed the reference. Then Paramount confirmed it with one of their official trailers, with the cartoon characters complaining that their live-action counterparts look nothing like them. The cavalier even tells the barbarian, "You're nine, that guy's like forty!" 😆
@@armygrunt13 I thought it was fun and cute how Paramount did that clip with them complaining. And you’re right. Bobby the Barbarian is an adult. They couldn’t find a teen actor worn right physique and height and look, so they ended up casting an adult. I remember bits and pieces of the cartoon growing up, but it’s only when I saw Eric the paladin and Sheila the thief, when I noticed. I did some refreshing of the cartoon before I saw the movie too
I saw this last night. Really funny, fun and action packed. I'll give it 8/10
I was trying to count how many spell slots, sorcery points Simon possibly used and if upcast or not😂 And what level each and one character were? Doric must have been higher level for a Druid and gotta had a " monstrosity wild shape " trait/ feat or something. Because owlbears are NOT beast/ natural but created by wizards. Also she changed shape like.... fly, rat, hawk/ falcon, cat, birdie thingy AND a deer! A Druid can like only change wild shape 3 times I think at lvl 2🤔
Doric is likely a Master of Many Forms.
Notice, she doesn't seem to be able to do anything else nut shoot a slingshot.
They released statblocks for everyone on dnd beyond!
Even the movie title: Honor among thieves was a satyrical reference of a drawing in the Advanced dungeons and dragons: dungeonmaster guide. The drawing was titled ''There is no honor among thieves'' and depicted a thief killed by another one for his bag of treasures
Wow, this got me even more excited about the success of this movie. More to come for sure!!!! A spinoff about Elminster!?!? Crazy time to be alive!!!!!
I hope the animated gang survived the games and escaped as well.
The spell is called “Prestidigitation”, which can create the scent of fresh cut grass among other things. Like small sparks, faint music, or even chill or warm food/drinks. Yup, Sofina can cast Prestidigitation.
One moment where the movie disobeys spell rules for the purpose of a joke is that “Speak with Dead” has a 10 Minute duration, and not indefinitely until all questions are asked.
Also, the reanimated spirit just answers questions. They can't hold a conversation and they can't even learn new information.
As a 90s kid, I grew up with Point-and-Click Adventure Games. So to me, that the Sorcerer is named Simon was the nicest Easter-Egg.😊
Unless they rewrote a line, I dont think the fresh cut grass is actually a reference. Filming on the movie began in April 2021 in and concluded August 19 2021 that's several months before campaign 3 started which was 21 oct 21
My thoughts too, has to be a crazy coincidence
perhaps. but that very easily could have been a little nod added when they were doing reshoots. I really doubt that was a coincedence.
They said the phrase "fresh cut grass" like 2 or 3 times in that scene. I can't imagine it was a coincidence. On The Flash, they once (spoiler alert) brought in Ezra Miller for a few hours after initial shooting was already over just to get his cameo in a crossover event, so I imagine this movie could have done the same.
As great as this movie was, an actual onscreen Critical Role cameo would have made it an instant level 20! 😉
A bunch of folks have mentioned wanting Critical Role characters in the next D&D movie. I agree with your suggestion of a cameo like the D&D TV series characters had, but I don't need to see them fill any more time than that in a future movie...well, other than Pumat Sol. [They already got the "Cut Grass" nod in this one].
I say: a new movie, new campaign, roll up new characters. Give me a flurry of blows/quivering palm baddy.
Maybe in the middle of the movie, pull out and show the real people playing their "characters" and arguing over something that is happening in the game. Whether it's a game lawyer, someone trying to do too much, or someone not paying attention and isn't ready on their turn.
Or what about a TPK at the beginning of the movie as you are getting comfortable with the characters you think you'll be following, then switch to a different group that has been in and out of the scenes in the background, and run with them until the end?A bunch of folks are wanting Critical Role characters in the next D&D movie. Maybe a cameo like the D&D TV series characters had, but I don't need to see them fill any more time than that in a future movie...well, other than Pumat Sol. [They already got the "Cut Grass" nod in this one]
I say: a new movie, new campaign, roll up new characters. Give me a flurry of blows/quivering palm baddy.
Maybe in the middle of the movie, pull out and show the real people playing their "characters" and arguing over something that is happening in the game. Whether it's a game lawyer, someone trying to do too much, or someone not paying attention and isn't ready on their turn.
Or what about a TPK at the beginning of the movie as you are getting comfortable with the characters you think you'll be following, then switch to a different group that has been in and out of the scenes in the background, and run with them until the end?
There is already the "legend of vox machina" animated show. Go check it out, it's a gem ^^
Seen it twice now and love it. One thing I think would have improved it? Have a waist down shot of a character with a pair of scimitars and a panther strolling by in Neverwinter. Just a little nod.
A black-skined character with purple eyes?
@@jewelpickard9716 yep
I enjoyed the intellectual puns hidden throughout the story, there like little gems , although not everyone caught them but Its alot fun when you have people with you , that do know Dungeons & Dragans intimately they totally geek out with excitement. 👍😁
9:30 By the way, the spell was Prestidigitation, not "Fresh Cut Grass". But close enough.
I love this movie!!! There were several clever moves that surprised me. I will buy this movie on DVD/Blue-Ray when it comes out!!
This was so much fun!
I loved the d&d animated series reference. I hope there's more cameos in coming sequels including dungeon master and uni. Or if they go to icewind Dale I hope they stop by mithril hall and see bruenor battlehammer, drizzt d'ourden, or guenhavar. Shandril shessair and spellfire could be really cool stuff on screen also. Alias or Olive Ruskettle from the Wyvernspur Trilogy are awesome ladies also. Plus we need the saurials like DragonBait the paladin. It's so neat because they communicate in a combo of chirps, growls, and scents🤩
I really enjoyed this movie and loved the bulk of the dialogue and fighting scenes. But, one scene in particular that was rough was when Sophnia said, "there's a wild shape among us". 😬
My gripes were the halflings looked off in proportions, the dragonborn looked slightly topheavy, and those tabaxi…
@@alannar6189 The halflings were definitely a little too small and the dragonborn a little too large, but the dragonborn and aarakocra both looked great.
Critical role fans know exactly what Sam said after that clip cut off…
My 3 middle cousins and I got together and saw the 2000 DND movie. I own the 3rd one. The last one of the 2000s is where the female mage kills a mind flayer.
The Speak with Dead spell was great! 5 questions getting tripped up and dragged on was perfect.
Love the movie. Hopefully they will make a sequel and Critical Role will appear as their characters.
I'm torn between who though.. I keep landing on Jester slapping people around with that giant lolli though xD
I just watched this movie and theaters and genuinely enjoyed it, but I feel like the bard didn’t do enough singing.
We do need more. And Themberchaud should be in it as well. We haven’t heard him speak.
@@devinwolken The part he was singing as a magic hologram, and then started sounding like a scratched CD.
@@GemmaleeDee I think their original cast would be the best fit for a movie. Grog and Keyleth and Pike and Scanlan and all that. With their second and especially their third campaign, they went for slightly weirder concepts, I think. Which is pretty great and original for a DnD game, but for characters in a movie it might come off poorly.
On the other hand if they do go with their Vox Machina character there's gonna be major comparisons between Keyleth and Doric! There were already some when she was revealed! :p
See I interpreted Bradley Cooper's cameo to be a nod to Bilbo Baggins. He's a halfling who lives a very peaceful life tending his garden and writing his book. Thought that was cool considering D&D was heavily inspired by Tolkien's world.
Also when we were watching in the theater, my friend could have sworn he saw Geralt of Rivia in the background of the druid chase scene. Anyone else pick up on it???
The directors didn't need to "do their homework" they are long time vets of the game.
They still consulted with the designers of 5E, and collaborated on a location found in both Rime of the Frostmaiden and in the film, Revel's End.
Critical Role on a WatchMojo thumbnail=MUST CLICK
Cutting off Sam before naming the final smell-named friend is cruel and hilarious.
I love cats! Well, only the ones that FCG's sibling was named after...
that Critical Role clip was edited at just the right moment lol
You missed one of the best Easter eggs in the movie:
Menzoberanzon, the city of the evil Drow elves.
Simon the Sorcerer.... How could you miss that?
And the party is at an inn, and a mysterious mage is sitting by the fire... It all startet like that :D
5:03 did they call ASL ALS? That’s a big difference right there 😂
The Animated series characters!
They Deserve Their Own Movie.
Or At Least A TV Mini-Series.
Simon the sorcerer is potentially also a reference to the point and click adventure game of the same name.
I watched this shortly after abdominal surgery and the scene where Chris Pines clone glitches out nearly killed me, the pain was so worth it. In hindsight watching a comedy was not the greatest idea, but had no idea how hard I was gonna laugh at that. The first reanimated dead guy also hurt.
I'm so sad I didn't catch the 80's group cameo in the arena, but omg love that it was pointed out!
Wait. Does the 1980's cartoon cameo imply that there's actually a Dungeon Master in this Universe as well?
Apparently Sam Riegel, one who plays FCG, was actually in the movie, in the crowd during the performance... I gotta watch again 😂
Here’s one thing you missed! Me! I’m a boy in the Castle Ward scene. The one falling over in the field. That’s me! The scenes was shot at least two years ago.
That castle they used in Freaks and Geeks during the D&D game is actually the Warhammer Siege castle, which came out in the late 90s.... :D
I'm not gonna lie, Themberchaud was a dangerous foe and an action heavy scene, but the bit where he was rolling down the platform sideways, back over belly, was incredibly cute.
I just want to rub his big ol' belly.
Def would have to use an action to “give scritches”!😂
Yes! I kept leaning over to my nephew and saying, "He's such a good fat boi, they should stop hurting him!" 😂 Look, I don't care if they're eating people or burning cities to the ground, I will always root for the dragons.
GREEN FLAME!
How this they miss this? And the picture of Volo himself.
5:02 ...So close.
Adore the incorporation of ASL, though, as well as every single tiny detail the whole production team worked into the movie! Another great Easter egg is Xenk just walking away in a straight line when his role in the plot is served: clearly the DM saying "and Xenk walks away" (Vax'ildan voice: "And I walk away."). 😂
I dont know anything about D&D but I very much enjoyed the movie. More comedy-fantasy movies please!
I loved this movie
Bigby and Mordenkain are from Greyhawk which was the setting created by Gary Gygax.
Mordekainen is mr. Gygax
Yeah. In 4D Mordenkain has two spells to his name for the wizard class. Mordenkain’s Sword and Mordenkain’s Mansion.
@@OneoftheVoice and Ed Greenwood is Elminster the Sage.
My fav detail was Simon being a lousy Sorcerer because he didn't have much Charisma.
Brilliant movie, and the cast and crew did the IP proud....