Parts Fraud! NOT what we ordered! Chrysler 3.6 Pentastar V6

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  • @MikhailScottKy
    @MikhailScottKy 6 месяцев назад +263

    It should be illegal to use plastic for any part of the cooling assemblies including water pumps

    • @infidel66687
      @infidel66687 6 месяцев назад +24

      It's the #1 killer of BMW's.

    • @David-de3ed
      @David-de3ed 6 месяцев назад +9

      A men …. Fiat doesn’t care they just want it to make 36,000 or 3 years …… first cooler 17,18 ,19…. Second cooler 20, 21, 22 and 23 ….

    • @USbilbo1966
      @USbilbo1966 6 месяцев назад +2

      I must told my wife them we e thing last night. Amen.

    • @Boga217
      @Boga217 6 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah the 2008+ caravan and their heater hose t's. I've done dozens..carefully cut away plastic ts and bands.. install home depot brass.

    • @21Piloteer
      @21Piloteer 6 месяцев назад +13

      Toyota and Honda seem to have it right.

  • @timd1833
    @timd1833 6 месяцев назад +72

    A side benefit of your videos is which vehicles I should NOT buy!

    • @alabamared2568
      @alabamared2568 6 месяцев назад +4

      Stay away if you can nothing stelantis is worth it. any model just a ton of issues

    • @philsonnenberg6092
      @philsonnenberg6092 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@alabamared2568 funny. My wife has a 2018 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk with just under 160k. Only issue it has had was some rear bushing that were warrentied at 29k.

    • @stevemccauley5734
      @stevemccauley5734 6 месяцев назад

      @@philsonnenberg6092funny. I manage a parts store. Jeep owners & anyone that owns a hemi are our biggest customers. That 3.6 is such a pile of crap that we can’t get remans from any source for our shops because no one wants to deal with them. Hemis, well you know… lifter problems & misfires. Chrysler does so many stupid things I can’t imagine why anyone would buy one.

    • @Darbman62
      @Darbman62 6 месяцев назад

      @@alabamared2568 The saying used to be that you make up the difference in price at the mechanic shop on any Chrysler. It doesn't really hold water with some of the models anymore.

    • @meme2780
      @meme2780 Месяц назад +1

      I have had 5 Pentastar engines from a 2012 dodge Durango with 240k still running great when sold it, My 2015 dodge charger awd at 220k and still running great, My 2014 Dodge Journey only 108k but no problems, My other 2015 charger with 160k was rear ended and use for parts that I have not needed any parts from yet, Then my Last 2015 durango with 98k miles, Never had any of this so called problems they all have. Hes a typical Ford/ Chevy troll that cry's about engines he doesn't work on that much so doesn't know the shortcuts, So cry's about it. Used to watch him for something to do often Until he started his Cry baby Dodge BS. Hes starting to sound like Scotty Kilmer and his Toyota BS.

  • @jessecain1646
    @jessecain1646 6 месяцев назад +103

    What a frustrating vehicle to work on. Hats off to you Ray for having the patience to work on it.

    • @longnguyen-zu1qe
      @longnguyen-zu1qe 6 месяцев назад +4

      😂❤That's why we have a video to watch. Thanks Ray. 😊

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 6 месяцев назад +4

      They are actually straightforward to wrench on.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@jorgejiminez-rk1uu That pretty much sums it up with wrenching on any modern day car/truck. That is what I consider straightforward.

    • @garyalford9394
      @garyalford9394 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have a 2021 Nissan Rogue with one of those full cover plastic skid pans on the bottom, it has 13 of those plastic rivets you have to remove to change the engine oil. The older Rogues didn't do that, its a pain in the butt just to change the oil!!

    • @brianallen9810
      @brianallen9810 6 месяцев назад

      What a pile of CRAP. I'll bet the Chrysler dealers won't touch these unless you promise them your first born child.

  • @mrajinj661
    @mrajinj661 6 месяцев назад +20

    It has always been my belief, that they should make the engineers work on these vehicles before they release them!

    • @dragracer4407
      @dragracer4407 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have always thought that when Chrysler came out with the PT Cruiser

    • @wallacejeffery5786
      @wallacejeffery5786 2 месяца назад

      Amen brother

    • @garyalford9394
      @garyalford9394 Месяц назад

      When they are 5 yrs old or older !!

  • @craigjorgensen4637
    @craigjorgensen4637 6 месяцев назад +11

    “ C’mon….you! “. What patience Ray has! Usually the shop bay is filled with a stream of obscenities when things break or go wrong! Today’s cars are miserable to work on!

  • @Patriot-bn9om
    @Patriot-bn9om 6 месяцев назад +17

    Since I'm incapable of being an expert automotive technician by myself, I'm doing it by living vicariously through Ray.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 6 месяцев назад +2

      And hooray for Timekeeper Dave (TM) keeping Ray from overworking himself to exhaustion and/or insanity!

  • @juergenpaton5004
    @juergenpaton5004 6 месяцев назад +30

    This engine must be in the top 5 of engines that are a PITA to work on. Your patience to deal with it and make a video at the same time has to be commended.

    • @mysticknight9711
      @mysticknight9711 6 месяцев назад +2

      Top 5 on my list includes the late 1990’s BMW 12 cylinder in the 750. The recommended way to change the spark plugs was to drop the entire engine from its mounts and raise the frame a foot or so … work from below

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 6 месяцев назад

      Any fwd is a pita

  • @z33511
    @z33511 6 месяцев назад +7

    I find it fascinating that as deeply buried that valley is under the manifold, the cover and the hood, somehow, leaves find their way into that space!

    • @kd7cwg
      @kd7cwg 6 месяцев назад +1

      Up north, the ram pro master vans would have the cowl drains plug up, and the water ends up on top of the intake. Then the intake bolts rust out and become a disaster to remove.

  • @billyounger9713
    @billyounger9713 6 месяцев назад +7

    "This is where things start to get a little tight"!! That's an understatement, everything is tight quarters!!😂

  • @John-dp3ln
    @John-dp3ln 6 месяцев назад +6

    What a fabulous design. Think I found the answer why this company has had so many owners.

  • @MrRunner
    @MrRunner 6 месяцев назад +2

    What pops my cork is not just the horrific job it is to replace the intercooler, but that it's needed at all. You would have thought that Chrysler, having made millions of these engines, would have sorted this by now. I won't mention that I see more Honda than Chryslers on the road, I just won't.

  • @mllarson
    @mllarson 6 месяцев назад +6

    One time I bought a brand new Playstation 2 from Walmart. When I got home and unboxed it, it was clearly used and had dust clogging the fan in the back, and the DVD drive didn't work. What is supposed to happen is the checkout person is supposed to scan a serial number bar code on the console, visible through a cutout in the box. Whoever accepted the return didn't check this PS2's serial against the receipt. Thankfully I returned it without issue but even when there are safeguards in place, lazy people (or an scamming insider) let this happen.
    Had the same thing happen when I bought a game at Target. The game was shrink-wrapped and there was a sticker sealing the game, but when I opened it, there was a scratched-up Spanish music CD inside. The lady at Target must have thought I was a scammer, because she didn't want to believe me, and kept eyeballing me when I would come in and do shopping. I asked her how many white guys listen to Mexican music?

  • @Blaxjax21
    @Blaxjax21 6 месяцев назад +4

    Let,s put a wooden intake on...

    • @wendwllhickey6426
      @wendwllhickey6426 2 месяца назад

      The problem is to much plastic on car engines and the minute you run coolent,oil Thur it starts to deteriorate fast 😮

  • @not-a-raccoon
    @not-a-raccoon 6 месяцев назад +118

    15:11 have you considered just throwing away the whole car at this point? I dont think it actually wants to be fixed

    • @Dave-ty2qp
      @Dave-ty2qp 6 месяцев назад +7

      My newest vehicle is a 2003 corolla. The newer vehicles are just overpriced junk. Poor quality, terrible engineering, and no customer service.

    • @nevrcm3261
      @nevrcm3261 6 месяцев назад +6

      by 27:54 your comment still rings true

    • @larryjankowski2923
      @larryjankowski2923 6 месяцев назад +6

      My daily commuter is a 2019 Ford Fiesta SE. Uses a metal oil filter, metal oil cooler, and most importantly, it’s the last year of Ford small sedans, and the last engine that uses port injection. No intake valve car non fouling. No turbo either.
      I don’t know if anyone still makes a small ICE that doesn’t use direct injection.
      I heard that someone makes a combined direct and port injection to keep valves clean. But I probably can’t afford it.

    • @garyalford9394
      @garyalford9394 6 месяцев назад +4

      Geeze wait till those things get old !! unless some one stocks alot of plastic parts !!

    • @larryjankowski2923
      @larryjankowski2923 6 месяцев назад +6

      ⁠I guess the next piece of equipment that snap on is going to offer is a 3-D printer and a subscription to the 3D rendering CAD files exclusively for automotive plastic parts.

  • @ferrellsl
    @ferrellsl 6 месяцев назад +1

    Your videos should be a prerequisite for anyone who is considering the purchase of a Chrysler product.

  • @Chief_5
    @Chief_5 6 месяцев назад +1

    Manufacturer: How complicated and breakable can you make this?
    Engineer: Yes

  • @jpizzle1223
    @jpizzle1223 6 месяцев назад +4

    I'm almost tempted to drive to Florida so you can work on my truck Ray! You are straight forward and honest!

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 6 месяцев назад +18

    It is worse than what you think, I have been around Automotive Parts establishments for decades and decades.
    What they did, was to order two different forms from two different stores. They took the plastic part put it in the aluminum box and then return it and said they they didn't need it and got their money back for the aluminum one period and then kept all the extra money in their pocket

    • @kd7cwg
      @kd7cwg 6 месяцев назад +1

      I worked at a warehouse that liquidated Walmart and Amazon returns. It’s crazy the amount of this i saw. People would buy 512gb ssd’s, and swap out the internals from their 128gb and return. People would take iPhones that were activation locked, but a new phone and swap out the logic board and return the bad one. Worst I saw was an entire laptop gutted. They painted a piece of plexiglass to look like an lcd screen, glued ports from a parts motherboard in all the openings, and put washers and Aa batteries inside to give it weight to make it seem legit. I don’t know if Walmart has changed but they need to check this. A simple visual inspection would have shown this was a scam.

    • @stevemccauley5734
      @stevemccauley5734 6 месяцев назад +1

      And the idiot kid that did the return at the store didn’t do his job by checking it before handing them their money or crediting their account.

    • @henryduke722
      @henryduke722 6 месяцев назад

      So sad

    • @williambrennan5701
      @williambrennan5701 6 месяцев назад

      dude that's awesome freaking God level return scamming right there @@kd7cwg

    • @williambrennan5701
      @williambrennan5701 6 месяцев назад +1

      I've done something similar. it was a weird situation where I needed the gasket but you couldn't buy just the gasket You could not make one because it was funky, every mechanic has run into this at one point. so I bought the part took the gasket out of the kit put in a gasket that was totally different then returned it just before closing when all the experienced people are off . Not saying what I did was right but at the end of the day 'Im not paying 300+ for a gasket . someone was going to get ripped off regardless I just made it not be me. always check your stuff before leaving the store I catch stuff like that all the time before I leave the store, I have been gotten way more times than I have got .

  • @brianpatrickreddington1750
    @brianpatrickreddington1750 4 месяца назад +1

    I love the Hard Rock and Heavy Metal Music that you are listening to while working in the shop my go to music of choice

  • @stevenrice47
    @stevenrice47 6 месяцев назад +45

    My nephew just bought a '12 Chrysler 300 v6. Sure enough, there was a shiny all aluminum oil cooler hiding under the intake with a puddle of old oil around it. It's a Pentrastar thing.

    • @doncnunez6231
      @doncnunez6231 6 месяцев назад +9

      No it's a POS thing!

    • @stevenrice47
      @stevenrice47 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@doncnunez6231 You say POS, I say Pentastar!

    • @craigjorgensen4637
      @craigjorgensen4637 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@stevenrice47Same difference!

    • @Alan-tr5uj
      @Alan-tr5uj 6 месяцев назад

      @@craigjorgensen4637 Chrysler ANYTHING is the industry's bottom of the barrel; Pentastar V6, 2.7 V6, and the modern HEMI V8's... The V8's have the worlds worst lifters and eat camshafts like the hamburgler eats mcdonalds cheeseburgers... Chrysler continues to baffle- producing shit engines for decades now & using components all made by the lowest bidder twice removed for even more savings!! LMAO!!! GARBAGE, all of it.

    • @methanial73
      @methanial73 6 месяцев назад +4

      People over tighten the oil cap and that causes them to leak, but there are aluminum aftermarket replacements.

  • @SteveBrace
    @SteveBrace 6 месяцев назад +8

    REEE! You forgot to install a new coolant leaf! 😀

  • @fan1701
    @fan1701 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have this engine in a 2015 dodge caravan. This makes me miss my older caravan with the 3.3 v6 pushrod engine. Much, much simpler design.

  • @whistlind-cell403
    @whistlind-cell403 2 месяца назад +2

    Ray Ray I just want you to know I work at Dorman and our Quality Director has taken this video as a case study to all of our customers to watch for fraudulent returns of Non-Dorman parts. Thank you!

  • @chriscarter2391
    @chriscarter2391 6 месяцев назад +3

    Next time you perform this job on a Pentastar engine, first drain half of coolant out of radiator so when you pull the unit out the antifreeze will not come rushing up and out filling the valley up with coolant and cross contaminating. Just thought I would throw that tip out there for you. Keep up the great job Ray

  • @kevincurry4735
    @kevincurry4735 6 месяцев назад +3

    3.6 a day will definitely make Ray Gray. 😎

  • @jays106
    @jays106 7 дней назад

    i was eating cereal when he said the money shot and i almost choked on said cereal as i burst out laughing thanks ray lol

  • @Turvotastic
    @Turvotastic 6 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a Chrysler tech and we replace oil coolers all the time. I've seen some fail just after 60,000 Miles which is right after powertain warranty ends. I almost feel bad replacing it with the OEM plastic housing

  • @mike.47
    @mike.47 6 месяцев назад +3

    As a former Ford parts delivery driver, there are some sneaky customers who return wrong parts to make more profit. Only needs to do it once to get black flagged.

  • @vc8939
    @vc8939 6 месяцев назад +4

    Ray, I have no idea how you retain the disassembly and reassembly procedures. Great content as usual.

  • @g.gordon8117
    @g.gordon8117 6 месяцев назад +2

    At this point I think a LS swap would be easier and cheaper. Lol 😅😂

  • @user-tj8wv7ri7d
    @user-tj8wv7ri7d 6 месяцев назад +1

    Friends should never let friends buy Chrysler. Or, a couple of other brands...but anyhow, Ray does wonders. Sometimes I wonder how he stays sane?

  • @eduardoflores2510
    @eduardoflores2510 6 месяцев назад +15

    when you go to put the upper manifold back run those screws backwards until you feel them click this will prevent them from cross threading.

    • @natersalad889
      @natersalad889 6 месяцев назад +4

      Always start by hand, problem solved

    • @heckelphon
      @heckelphon 6 месяцев назад +3

      Indeed, that's also the rule with anything which screws into plastic, especially something softer like ABS.

    • @jamesplotkin4674
      @jamesplotkin4674 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@heckelphon As well as metal. Back in the '70's stereo receiver bottom covers could have 20 screws, all machine fine thread. Always start by hand and turn back until you feel it click into place. I've done thousands without crossing.

    • @heckelphon
      @heckelphon 6 месяцев назад

      @@jamesplotkin4674 Yes, it's one of those obvious things. Like ensuring that a cross-head screwdriver is firmly in the slots and held in line with the fastener when undoing tight screws. The number of RUclips videos showing people dismantling stuff when they don't seem to know how to hold a screwdriver,! The tool wobbles all over the place, the thing cams out, damaging the head and the tool as well, if it's a cheap one. And make sure you use JIS drivers on JIS head screws, or it will cam out in any case.

  • @pirategmunger
    @pirategmunger 6 месяцев назад +8

    That has been a really bad issue with O'Reilly's and the other big name parts houses lately. They do not check returned parts to make sure the returned parts are correct, they just scan it and kick it out the door back to the warehouse and it becomes someone else's problem. This same thing has happened to me too many times on my commercial account and I'm always left wondering where the accountability is held? Lucky they were able to run a correct part back out to you! Could you imagine how bad that would have been if you would have had to wait a week for one to come from California or somewhere else? Not good, ask me how I know 😒

    • @kd7cwg
      @kd7cwg 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was doing a last minute brake job at the shop I used to work at, Oreilly delivered a box with USED brake pads 🤦🏻‍♂️.

  • @Psichlo1
    @Psichlo1 6 месяцев назад +2

    I am seriously contemplating replacing the oil cooler on the wife units Jeep with metal aftermarket when I do a spark plug change to avoid this exact situation. Such a terrible design. I wish manufacturers would stop using cheap plastic crap in the engine bay.

  • @mattp.7002
    @mattp.7002 6 месяцев назад +1

    A neighbor of mine needed to buy a new mini van for his family. He asked me what one I liked. To be honest, I don’t like any of them, but the last one I’d buy is the Chrysler. He ended up buying the Honda. Wise choice.

  • @mph5896
    @mph5896 6 месяцев назад +10

    On that Chrysler van, tap/blow the dirt out of the filter. Replace the ESIM and send it. You can test the ESIM, and also test the system with smoke for leaks.

  • @victormcdonald6856
    @victormcdonald6856 6 месяцев назад +4

    I love your videos
    Unlike other repai8 ones, you don't just show the simple ones. This is a great video and shows your experience.

  • @jwboilermaker
    @jwboilermaker 6 месяцев назад +2

    The updated design from DORMAN of all parts manufacturers. I have to replace the thermostat housing that I installed just over a year ago because the seal on it is junk 🤦‍♂️

  • @bluedog4286
    @bluedog4286 6 месяцев назад +1

    Many years ago when I was young and reckless we had an early IBM (I've Been Misled) desktop which had more problems from new than could be believed; and service was non-existent. We followed a lead from America and took the machine back to the dealer before opening, left it on the shop entrance with a sign saying "Don't bother stealing me, I have never worked". Got a new working one within two days. Could start a trend with modern vehicles, especially the 'lectric ones.

  • @51ubetcha
    @51ubetcha 6 месяцев назад +20

    As I have mentioned many times on different channels, once you get a little spot of a rubber hose loosened, spray some WD40 in it. That will help break the bond and help loosen the hose. It will also help with assembly. Use a bend hose hook tool to rotate around the hose and hose fitting

    • @DavidTMSN
      @DavidTMSN 6 месяцев назад +1

      Would wd40 specialist silicone spray work better than just regular wd40?

    • @51ubetcha
      @51ubetcha 6 месяцев назад

      I really don't know. The WD 40 specialist product I think came out after I retired from automotive tech business. I haven't tried it.

    • @garyalford9394
      @garyalford9394 6 месяцев назад +1

      Heat gun works wonder's !!!

    • @jayc4283
      @jayc4283 6 месяцев назад +4

      I know that using WD-39 is a total waste of time

    • @DavidTMSN
      @DavidTMSN 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jayc4283 Never heard of wd39

  • @user-lq8wo9tk8q
    @user-lq8wo9tk8q 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ray, thank you very much for giving me yet MORE confirmation that my decision to never buy a Chrysler product was a very good one! Danke!

  • @JimmyLuffjr
    @JimmyLuffjr 6 месяцев назад +8

    Funny you should post this. I just did my daughters 17 jeep wrangler last weekend. It only had 61k miles. The bad part is, it was 23 degrees outside with a 12 mph wind. It was a lot less stressful than that van though. I wonder why they didn't have a recall on those? Dorman stepped up their game. Came with new bolts and all gaskets. All the plastic parts seem to be very brittle. I will not buy a Chrysler product.

  • @markcherriman6136
    @markcherriman6136 6 месяцев назад +2

    The fact that the plastic components fall to bits on disassembly is how Chrysler makes it's money .

  • @Mr_Meowingtons
    @Mr_Meowingtons 6 месяцев назад +1

    I worked at auto zone for 10 years we 100% had to check the parts we sold and returned After some one returned there used GM5.3 water pump.
    it was not hard to fined out who returned it my Boss called him told him to never come back.

  • @goodtimejohnny8972
    @goodtimejohnny8972 6 месяцев назад +6

    Motor city mechanic has a great video on those coolers. The aluminum one is only applicable to a certain run of pentastar engines. I can't remember why though. There are all kinds of shenanigans at the parts store. Also some of the shops they deliver to.

    • @robertadams2857
      @robertadams2857 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks… I will look into

    • @kd7cwg
      @kd7cwg 6 месяцев назад

      I believe the all aluminum designed was based off the 2015. The orange cap has a sticker stating what filter must be used so the engine doesn’t self destruct

    • @DF-zp1os
      @DF-zp1os 6 месяцев назад

      You can use the aluminum housing in early model pentastar. You just have to remember to use 2015+ oil filters.

  • @dangingerich2559
    @dangingerich2559 6 месяцев назад +5

    It's good to see Ray has proper respect for Chrysler.

    • @deplorablelibertarian
      @deplorablelibertarian 6 месяцев назад +4

      Chrysler has so much respect for their customers....that they use PLASTIC parts in the oiling and cooling system. Some car manufacturers don't deserve your money or respect.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 6 месяцев назад +8

      they're a great company. they keep so many mechanics employed.

  • @bobbys2160
    @bobbys2160 Месяц назад

    don't you just love the way these engineers designs these engines that they never have to work on.

  • @jojomorgan8556
    @jojomorgan8556 6 месяцев назад +1

    WHAT A COINCIDENCE I just diagnosed the exact same problem in a Chrysler..... the 'High Temperature Silicon Seals are so toasted from the heat building up in the intake valley that they came out in small chalky pieces like gravel ... It started leaking oil immediately after the oil filter was changed... I found the oil cooler bolts to be less than finger tight and it was only the fact that it had 'accidentally heat-welded' itself together that it wasn't leaking coolant and oil since the day it was shipped this little 8 year old suv/ mini-van has only 23,000 miles on it and the factory left the bolts loose enough to take the cooler off without the specialty E6 socket ( maybe an E8? guess I'll have to find out before I put the new one in 😎 )
    in fact I took it down to the block with nothing but a ⁵/¹⁶ a 10mm and a pair of 9 inch long 30° angle-tip needle-nose pliers
    YES both upper and lower intake , cooler , and everything else that had to be moved WITHOUT THE RATCHET USING THE NEEDLE-NOSE TO TURN THE ⁵/¹⁶ AND 10mm sockets. I took it to bare metal at the bottom of the oil cooler valley with what anyone would call NO TOOLS ... and really I only used the sockets to not round them off so I could actually put the motor together for the first time in its life ...
    Chrysler driven 23,000 miles and
    I removed 3 oil cooler bolts with my fingers.
    ( it overheated and ran low on oil simultaneously but it was saved by the dummy's best friends ( the low oil pressure curoff and the extreme overtemp cutoff )
    because it was an instant catastrophic leak for both systems the computer was smart enough to not let it restart.
    it was brought to my attention because the customer was blaming my oil change kid... who hasn't had a comeback or complaint in years...
    I'm glad I walked out with only the pliers and a couple sockets in front of the customer and disassembled half the motor.... the complaint was dropped instantly and I will be paid to check everything that is accessible to make sure the screws / bolts are tight while I wait for the cooler and try to operate down 1 lift out of 2.

  • @s.murphy8336
    @s.murphy8336 6 месяцев назад +3

    The part being mis-boxed probably started at Dorman. Their quality control on the parts might have gotten better, but them boxing stuff wrong has gotten worse. Any time they make 2 versions of a part like this, there's a decent chance you'll get wrong one in the box.
    Not saying the part wasn't returned by someone else in the wrong box. That is absolutely a problem. It happens all the time, and it makes everybody involved look bad. Beyond the scumbag that returned it, it makes whoever accepted the return look bad, it makes whoever went to sell the part next look bad, and if it made it that far it makes the shop who now has to wait for the correct part, holding up the customer's car, look bad. Nothing worse than grabbing a part off the shelf, going to hand it to the customer, and its completely wrong/used part in the box. Even worse when its a part you ordered in for a customer and it arrives that way.

  • @tedmitchell226
    @tedmitchell226 6 месяцев назад +3

    Pentastar 🥶🥵🥶🥵 those engines will keep you busy but raise my anxiety level

  • @wallychambe1587
    @wallychambe1587 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow! Typical Chrysler junk, that is why friends don't let friends buy Chrysler!😱😱 You are great guy for working and trying to keep it running! 😍😍😍

  • @imonaroll9502
    @imonaroll9502 5 месяцев назад +2

    When engineers don’t understand maintenance. ❤

  • @808ecobeast7
    @808ecobeast7 6 месяцев назад +5

    Hey, Marty McFly did age during time travel! 😮😮😮

  • @IFIXCASTLES
    @IFIXCASTLES 6 месяцев назад +3

    I replaced mine twice on a 2017 Doge Grand Caravan. I used the plastic one and it's just fine. The problem, I think, are the seals and stripped out bolt holes in the block. I had to repair one hole with a helicoil. You think the cooler bolt is grabbing but in essence it's not. Neglected to clean the camshaft sensor and had to remove for a third time. 😊 Fun times...

  • @jerryq1000
    @jerryq1000 6 месяцев назад +2

    The more I watch you and others work on Dodge/Chrysler products, the happier I am that I don't own any of them!

    • @dennislyon5412
      @dennislyon5412 6 месяцев назад

      The last of the Dodge minivans are great.

  • @ZGDX_Smiling_
    @ZGDX_Smiling_ 6 месяцев назад +1

    I found that Vapor Canister Filter for the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica and it is not in back order at all. It is $19 for that part and there is one left of a certain brand. This site also has AWD parts for that vehicle too. I will make Ray Ray secretly guess where I have found that part at.

  • @PatricksDIY
    @PatricksDIY 6 месяцев назад +12

    I had the same thing happen when I replaced an oil filter housing, was supposed to be a "new and improved" aluminum , and it was the same OEM plastic... the same parts store said the same thing about " a return" I guess I cannot put all the blame on the parts store, especially if the person that returned it made it look like it was never opened so they would not need to check it. But I would suggest they start opening the returns to make sure. I'm pretty sure their computer will show what is supposed to be in there). Oh well. (this was 3 months ago)

    • @pirategmunger
      @pirategmunger 6 месяцев назад +5

      Agreed, maybe someone should order an alternator and send it back with just a brick inside the box and see what happens. Bet they won't check. They really do need to start checking all returns and I have said this to O'Reilly's like 6 times within the last year.

    • @craigcraigster4999
      @craigcraigster4999 6 месяцев назад +7

      It's getting to the point where, to make sure you're getting what you paid for, you have to open the parts box at the counter and in front of the employee before leaving the premises!

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 6 месяцев назад

      @@pirategmunger It's been done.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@craigcraigster4999 That's the way I always do it. Its different with a shop though that has parts delivered.

    • @orinmangar2333
      @orinmangar2333 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@mph5896then the shop needs to open the box b4 delivery driver leaves!

  • @ftwbreeze
    @ftwbreeze 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hello Ray, another great video. I was just thinking how I miss and enjoyed the banter you and Peter had. It was a different time in your life but very entertaining. Thank you again for all you and family do bringing us along. Dave is definitely a good man.

  • @Papieck37
    @Papieck37 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing video Ray!!

  • @Oneupserviceautorepair
    @Oneupserviceautorepair 6 месяцев назад +1

    You should spray wd-40 inside that hose after you slide something under the hose. Then just jam thewd-40 nozzle in there and you will be good. i found after i spray it and then try twisting the hose with my hand that wd-40 is enough to break that bond really quickly

  • @Mj_s_Garage
    @Mj_s_Garage 6 месяцев назад +5

    I've been in the parts business for 30 years. The metal oil coolers were thought be to a better design. Turns out the metal coolers don't allow the flex that is needed and leak worse, Sounds crazy, I know, but the original plastic design lasts longer. Have ran into this many times on all of the Pentastar engines. Dorman went back to OE units to correct this issue. Your parts store should have been aware of this.

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow 6 месяцев назад +3

    How can a plastic "cooler" aka heat exchanger work? Plastic is a thermal insulator.

    • @21Piloteer
      @21Piloteer 6 месяцев назад +2

      The cooler part of the assembly is aluminum.

  • @stevenclaeys6252
    @stevenclaeys6252 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for another great video. Stay safe out there. Cheers

  • @rivjoy
    @rivjoy 6 месяцев назад +2

    I used to do all the work on my cars, but I will not touch the engine on my wifes Dodge Caravan. I've replaced the fuel pump relay with an aftermarket part.(common problem for the 3.6). Had the mechanic replace roller tappets that were dying. (common) He replaced the power steering hoses that were near impossible to get at. Everything under the hood is impossible to get at.

    • @garyalford9394
      @garyalford9394 Месяц назад +1

      You almost need a car lift with lots of room for everything.

  • @not-a-raccoon
    @not-a-raccoon 6 месяцев назад +11

    When i see Pentastar i know its gonna be a train wreck

    • @not-a-raccoon
      @not-a-raccoon 6 месяцев назад +7

      So the oil cooler is a common failure point.. apart from just about every other critical part of the engine. 😏🤣

    • @hirisk761
      @hirisk761 6 месяцев назад +3

      I think the engineers got together and said "how many failure points can we make? all of them!"

  • @raymonddriggers
    @raymonddriggers 6 месяцев назад +3

    Seems like everything on ram penastars are on back order!

  • @seamasrigh2162
    @seamasrigh2162 6 месяцев назад +1

    My family stopped buying Chrysler/Dodge in the mid 70's. We have never looked back.

  • @sheerwillsurvival2064
    @sheerwillsurvival2064 6 месяцев назад +2

    If it’s a 2014 or newer order the $11 mopar seal kit . There are 2 oil inlet tube O rings . A 23mm and a 22.3mm for 2014 and newer. Gorman O rings are off size measure for yourself . If not they will leak

  • @duncancremin1708
    @duncancremin1708 6 месяцев назад +20

    The more I watch Ray work, the more I think there are some jobs that simply aren’t worth doing, at any price.
    Whenever I get back to my own workshop, if I ever do, I’ll be much more discerning about what I’ll allow into the bay.

    • @raymonddriggers
      @raymonddriggers 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah be picky about what you work on and you will have to charge more for the things you do work on, only because you won’t have enough work coming in to sustain your shop! Maybe that’s the reason you don’t have a shop now because we limit our knowledge therefore we limit our income!

    • @johnkingery403
      @johnkingery403 6 месяцев назад

      Boom!@@raymonddriggers

    • @forgetfulme1719
      @forgetfulme1719 6 месяцев назад

      for sake of $ on job and RUclips viewers, he does anything, moving or not.

    • @duncancremin1708
      @duncancremin1708 6 месяцев назад

      Actually, I do still have my shop and a long waiting list of people, waiting over a year now, some of them, while I recover from a crippling accident and repair surgery. My recovery hasn’t gone according to plan and I may never get back to full mobility, meaning some of the stupidly inaccessible tasks may forever be beyond my physical capacity.
      I’m not in the least concerned about reducing my workload. It has always been excessive anyway. I’m not good at saying “no”, so I have often pulled an all nighter, trying to catch up.
      That sort of self destructive behaviour has to stop and turning away work I may not be able to finish is a good start.
      But, since 17th January 2023, I have not been able to do ANY work and there are still cars on my ramp, in my bay and parked around my house, awaiting my attention.
      I’m humbled by the degree of loyalty of some of my long term customers

    • @TheDailyRex
      @TheDailyRex 6 месяцев назад

      These jobs are gravy. They pay well and when you’ve done many of them of every different vehicle configuration the 3.6 comes in, start to finish it’s a 1.5-2 hour job

  • @arthurrodesiler3109
    @arthurrodesiler3109 6 месяцев назад +3

    I see this all the time. Get under the rubber hose and spray wd 40 or any lube then grap the hose and use something to get around the hose while the wd gets in there and they come right off. Folks get lazy and brake things which is most likely plastic. Like you were fighting the exhaust system on the truck hangers. You should have spray wd 40 on all those at one time and you don't even need to use that tool. Sometime you can't even get that tool in some spots. Another bad spot is these stupid engine covers. I found out using grease works the best. I get so tired of these stupid things all they are for mice and small animals to hide under and make a home and eat your wires.. I have seen cats under them even. On my own stuff I leave the stupid things off.

  • @jhh8688
    @jhh8688 6 месяцев назад +2

    thank you for the stoppage and blockage of intake ports very professional

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have 10 vehicles tagged, insured, and on the road. A lot of times, 1 or 2 are down, waiting on something . Gotta have backups.

  • @dangleebols
    @dangleebols 6 месяцев назад +3

    Can I ask why you did not drain the coolant, so when the housing was removed it did not mix with the oil?

    • @scott.koopmann
      @scott.koopmann 6 месяцев назад +4

      Ray cuts corners on everything he does. Is this your first Rainman video?

    • @dangleebols
      @dangleebols 6 месяцев назад +1

      No, been watching occasionally for years, but now moved on to "Jimmy making it work" whos is a total Pro.@@scott.koopmann

    • @21Piloteer
      @21Piloteer 6 месяцев назад

      Coolant was already leaking into the valley as well as oil, so what benefit would draining the radiator be? Besides none of that was going into the crankcase anyway.

    • @dangleebols
      @dangleebols 6 месяцев назад

      Where do you think those oilways going into the cooler go?@@21Piloteer

  • @surg9029
    @surg9029 6 месяцев назад +3

    There is not enough Valium on this planet to make working on that engine worthwhile

  • @bulldogshouse9970
    @bulldogshouse9970 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well good sir to the answer to your question I did enjoy the video thank you very much and I do look forward to watching part 2 of shed video

  • @pc-yx9uh
    @pc-yx9uh 6 месяцев назад

    i'm glad you did your diligence on the part. i spend a great deal of time just making sure i do not waste someone else's time.

  • @wallychambe1587
    @wallychambe1587 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, I wouldn't be able to remember where all that stuff goes back!😱🤣🤣🤣

  • @michaelmarkofski4073
    @michaelmarkofski4073 6 месяцев назад +2

    All engineers should have to work on/ repair whatever they design on a fully assembled vehicle.

    • @garyalford9394
      @garyalford9394 Месяц назад +1

      Atleast 5yrs old from New York !!!

  • @buffalomerkis7603
    @buffalomerkis7603 6 месяцев назад

    Love The Offspring playing in the background, Americana album, trip down memory lane

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable 6 месяцев назад +1

    7 yrs as a Mercedes Benz dealer tech, at a dealer, ya learn real quick, to tell the customer, the more miles on the vehicle, the more stuff that will break, freeze up,etc. during the course of repairs. That is why they call it an " estimate". Even good shops , work on old , breakable stuff.

  • @baknblack1
    @baknblack1 6 месяцев назад

    I love how you take a PITA and add the comic relief. I've worked on a lot of vehicles in my life but, never got paid for any of them.

  • @patrickgoodwin3085
    @patrickgoodwin3085 6 месяцев назад

    Look forward to seeing your videos. Very relaxing. Thanks Ray!

    • @billyounger9713
      @billyounger9713 6 месяцев назад +2

      "Relaxing"??? Not for me, I was getting anxiety just watching!! Not enough room and too much plastic!! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦😊

    • @raymonddriggers
      @raymonddriggers 6 месяцев назад

      @@billyounger9713 agreed!! With every little plastic clip ray ray was trying to remove my sphincter was getting tighter and tighter

  • @craigwhittingslow9689
    @craigwhittingslow9689 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work Ray. I have always said if people knew the maintenance of a new vehicle they would sell fewer new cars. 🙏🙏👍💪

  • @Sicktrickintuner
    @Sicktrickintuner 6 месяцев назад +1

    Eric O did the cooler on one of those and surprisingly dorman to the rescue. Just had a bad experience with dorman junk yesterday though

  • @babyschuerman
    @babyschuerman 6 месяцев назад +1

    Same kinda thing happens to Plumbing parts as well pople just open the package steal the one part/piece they want (or broke from user error) then return or put the box back on the shelf for the next person to deal with 😢

  • @michaelnolastname5405
    @michaelnolastname5405 5 месяцев назад

    Once you got this all sorted out, one all things have been fixed, once the vehicle is moved to the parking lot to await customer pick up, something else will break, after all, that is the Chrysler/Fiatt/Dodge way. I admire how you keep at it no matter what.

  • @Grayhook1
    @Grayhook1 6 месяцев назад +2

    A coworker of mine who had previously been a Chrysler tech, when asked his opinion, hated Pacificas and their Pentastar engines. He was so disgusted with new automotive technology he moved into aviation robotics and drove ‘50’s and ‘60’s Chevys.

  • @gillescote6451
    @gillescote6451 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ray ...there's plenty of those canister filters on Rock auto.. even mopar ones

  • @ryulee458
    @ryulee458 6 месяцев назад

    Good morning Ray 🌄 another day another good video 😎👍👍

  • @fleece192
    @fleece192 6 месяцев назад

    Great video

  • @russellbrown1138
    @russellbrown1138 6 месяцев назад +1

    VW did a simlar thing with the Auto Trans coolers in 2000 Golfs. Luckilly the cooler was not to hard to get too.
    And yes the leaking trans oil found lovely places to soak into... belly pans, engine mounts..

  • @martyh9309
    @martyh9309 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ray, you have fantastic work and personal all around ethics. Love watching you work. Just wanted to make a comment about plastic in general. I have run into those plastics that are hard yet slightly flexible and are usually some sort of fiber-filled and those tend to last and not break. Wish more automakers use that type of plastic. They tend not to work harden or harden over time due to heat.

  • @scottkrebs8944
    @scottkrebs8944 6 месяцев назад

    I feel your pain Ray i just did a cooler on 13 grand Cherokee what a pain the pcv valve is next to fire wall what a pain good video

  • @randybranham2666
    @randybranham2666 6 месяцев назад

    Well at least you got out a good video channel another note. I enjoy seeing your wife in your videos every once in a while.

  • @NerwinC
    @NerwinC 6 месяцев назад +1

    Video gave me anxiety because I have a 2018 Pacifica. I had to replace the oil pressure sensor on it a few months ago which took me about 6 hours. Now I'll be inspecting for oil under that housing every time I change the oil, and I'll be saving this video with that part number for WHEN I end up needing it.

    • @dennislyon5412
      @dennislyon5412 6 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t “crank” on that oil filter cap, and go slow when removing it. The part won’t fail if you treat the oil filter housing nice.

  • @mphilleo
    @mphilleo 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ray, I put one of these on my 2012 Wrangler a few years back, per the suggestion of MotorCity Mechanic. At that time, Dorman made these compatible only for 2014+ models. Back then they only sold the lower part of the assembly and you had to transfer over the stacked plate cooler. Since mine was a 2012, that bolt pattern was different. But I lucked out and a guy with a 2014 Wrangler that rolled sold me the oil cooler out of his, so I was able to complete the swap. I combined it with the Baxter spin-on oil filter adapter, which has a built in ADBV (anti-drainback valve) to protect the valve train from dry starts.

  • @joemuncie9187
    @joemuncie9187 6 месяцев назад

    Great video Ray. I have even known people who replace items with bricks and return them, hoping no one checks it. Never buy electronics at a freeway off ramp either. Most often ceramic tiles instead of tablets or laptops!!!

  • @jhorton1600
    @jhorton1600 6 месяцев назад +1

    "The blowback is vicious."
    True statement!

  • @jimmcgrath3800
    @jimmcgrath3800 6 месяцев назад

    Ray, thanks for this video. I would smell coolant from my 2013 Ram 1500 occasionally, and the coolant level dropped, but I couldn’t find it, until now!
    I will use the all metal replacement oil cooler you used.😊

  • @bryancaldwell1917
    @bryancaldwell1917 6 месяцев назад

    Good work, your just the best! Wish you were closer me, I would take all of my 5 vehicles to you everytime I need work on them! What I would give for someone as good as you around me!