A Budget Bike That Rips | Value Bike Field Test: YT Capra Core 1 Mx Review
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- It'll handle trips to the bike park or the occasional enduro race just as easily as a casual after-work pedal, and overall the price-to-performance ratio makes it a very attractive option.
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00:00 Intro
00:39 Climbing
03:11 Descending
06:16 Components
10:50 Pros
11:24 Cons
12:13 Verdict
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So lucky to be living in a time where there are so many good 'regular folks' priced mountain bikes for offer....
So nice! Finally budget bikes a reviewed with respect - thanks... it took half a decade but thanks : )😅❤
One thing to mention is that you can put the Charger 3 Damper for 200 € in the fork and you have the top tier fork from rockshox
i got my core 1 in the beginning of the season to upgrade from a nukeproof scout and i love it. did 6 dh races on it and won some stuff aswell.. lots of the cheaper parts broke and got changed out, but the base is still solid.
I just got the new core 3 and absolutely love it!
I have a 2021 Capra Base. Upgraded the damper an a bunch of other stuff. Bike smashes the trails in the Santa Cruz mountains! Love it!!! Recently rode a friends Transition Spire and now thinking of converting to mullet.
Got this bike 2 months ago. So far so good. Instead of getting the Medium, i took the Large and it's just about right. Im 5"9 so all is good. Changed the cockpit to Deity as my preference and change the shifter and derailleur to GX. Changed the centerlines to HS2, DB8 is a solid one. Base RS suspension and fork does the job, for my riding. I'll see how it goes in the long run.
Perfect upgrades to polish off the build. I made similar changes to my Status with the addition of a Race Face rear hoop laced to a DT350, and a GX cassette. Hope the bike serves you well
How is it on the climbs
Question I am 5^8 Should I go medium or you think it will be cramped ? And how would you recommend over jeffsy .
@@paulventicinque9012 I'm 5'8 and medium is perfect for me on my jeffsey
Good to see another alloy frame for a change instead of pushing carbon, some of us still prefer alloy frames and 27.5 wheels.
i'm pretty much in love with my Trek remedy :) got an L, and I'm 5'10
got a cascade + coil + 180 '21 Lyrik
i don't ride DH, but love flow and pump track trails
too bad they dont refresh the frame with some minor tweaks
@@ostankovalex1176 yeh I don't see the fascination with carbon unless it's on a ebike. I love my alloy framed bird 160 ploughs through everything if I need too. Don't know about jumps as I'm not great at those, steep, rooty tech stuff is what I like..Fast flow stuff is fun aswell.
YT being called a "german powerhouse" just shows how far they have come. They started out with making steel budget dirt jump bikes for the local community and are now competing with the big players... What a story and brand tbh
I have my 2017 Capra and I love it
YT really should ditch the NX for Deore 12 speed on this build. That NX mech is done on the first rock it finds, the Deore 12speed mech is an absolute tank. Aside from that just drop the damper upgrade in the fork a cush core out back and you got a great park bike that can easily be your daily driver trail bike too.
they can't, SRAM forces them to buy full groupset/suspension package for good OEM pricing which lets YT price the bike this low with required profit margin. One of the things that sucks about SRAM haha.
I have an nx groupset for my 120mm fully.4000 miles and never had any issue. For an enduro bike that is more to ride downhill its more then enough
I ordered core 3 mx . My height is between size m and s and i choose m because size s was out of stock. Happy to hearing people will consider sizing up because short reach .
Dazzling dazimer. Perfect delivery, had to relisten
Feeling happy I got the core 3 mx on sale for $3000. Of course this bike can be had for 2000 on sale at points. Love this bike! I agree the dropper isn't great, 180mm one up dropper fits perfect for me 5ft10 on a large.
Why did you choose the Capra(170mm) when the jeffsy(150mm) is more like a trail bike?
This is probably a newer model they haven't tested yet
The jeffsy pro 27.5 is 160mm front and back
Probably because not everyone looking for an affordable bike is just riding trails, some could be racing enduro. Good to have something for everyone so all aspects of riding are covered.
Pinkbike said this in their article introducing the test “Why mix categories? Well, these days plenty of riders are riding enduro bikes as trail bikes, and vice versa. The goal was to bring in a good cross-section of what's available at this pricepoint to highlight their strengths and weaknesses, and to determine who the ideal candidate for a specific model would be.”
It’s what they were sent?
Interesting to see what a difference context makes. It's the same bike they reviewed last year, just in alloy and cheaper. Instead of getting criticized for its suspension feel it received a bunch of solid accolades (save the drivetrain). But I guess $2700 is hard to argue with, that's a wild deal.
$1,999 for the Core 1 right now!!!
^^
I've had my Capra core 1 mx since January, and i must say this bike absolutely shreds. I should mention i am right between the L and XL frame sizes and i went for the XL variant.
A lot of the issues with the reach are indeed solved by sizing up. So much so that i would say the larger size has that in-the-bike feel. I use my bike mostly for park riding, meaning my dropper is almost always all the way down and i have no issues climbing (when i need to)
As for what i don't like, the shock is the only weak point of the bike. (Maybe the rims too since they can't handle much abuse) Don't get me wrong, the shock is good, but my main issue with it is adjustability.
The only upgrade i did is replacing my rear rim after a crash with a DT Swiss FR 541, the rest of the bike holds up really well. (Even with two downhill and few enduro races under the belt)
I've also seen people upgrading to coil shocks on their Capras and i'm going to try the same for next season.
YT Capra core 1 is a great bike if you're looking for something cheap to handle everything from local trails to weekend laps at the bikepark.
I also chose XL and I'm 183cm. I have 29 version and with current 1999€ price in Europe it is very hard to find better bike for the money. My XL 29 version was 17.7 kg with pedals, tubeless and Panzer inserts. It's not light but feels quite ok to pedal :D I think if you put tyres with less rolling resistance you could be happier when pedaling flatter and smoother terrains. But obviously this bike is made for going down so these tyres feels quite ok!
Bro I ordered L and iam around 180 or 181cm did I fucked up?
@@juraj5960 i think you're alright, the smaller bike might even feel more playful. I chose XL since it's the better choice for racing. A bigger bike is more stable on the steeper stuff, but if you just want to have fun L should be a decent choice for you.
Plus if you change your mind YT has a decent customer support
Hey I’m 190cm I love a playful bike but not too small should I go for XXL Mullet
@@adammoffett6935no way XL man , it'll be perfect I'm 6'2 (190cm) and XL is perfect fits like a glove
I am pleasantly surprised by the DB8s - IMO they work just so good. Considering their cost (which is very affordable), they seem like very good choice.
Will this frame block the mounting and release of fidlock water bottles?
Is the seat tube length the distance between the BB and top of the seat tube or is it the max length of dropper post you can insert?
in these discussions theres alot of talks of how suspension performs, especially relative to other bikes. but from what i've seen they have different forks/shocks/wheel sizes all which are tweakable. as reviewers who ride alot of bikes, how are the suspension settings controlled to account for this?
Bumping, because I would like to know this as well!
I would imagine they just set the suspension up per their weight per the frame manufacturers recommended settings and not to their personal preferred settings as to give an unbiased review
@@hectorhernandez1664 nah they absolutely find their personal preferred settings starting from the manufacturer recommended settings. Not sure how riding a bike with the wrong suspension setup for your preferences is "unbiased", instead that would probably lead to more negative reviews on a bike that is actually good.
My Sram NX shifter and derailleur are really bad too.
Would this be a good first full suspension?
Any big differences on how a 29’ and a Mx ride? I’ve been considering get this bike.
Same here.
Have you come to a conclusion about this?
Will someone please tell Dario, to find a neutral spot to look at, when he is not involved in direct conversation. His paraxial stare at the camera, when passive, is somewhat unsettling.
Though, his direct responses, and forthright presentation, when involved, are enjoyable.
He suffers Tourette ticks which is probably what your noticing, I do too so I can relate
Kario and Dazimer? 😂
When I bought my Capra 5 years ago (I still ride it) it was marketed as mini DH bike. Now it is in Trail bike comparison test. LOL
Next thing they're going to bring back all mouintain.
You mean "Value" bike field test....
@@JonnyNorthmore other bike so far had 130 mm travel. Would it be reasonable to compare a XC bike with a DH bike just because they are in the same price range?
@@kutlay1988 But it doesn't say it's a trail bike field test. It's about value for money bikes. A weird comparison I agree.
@@kutlay1988 Pinkbike explains why they chose a mix of trail and enduro bikes in their article introducing the test. “Why mix categories? Well, these days plenty of riders are riding enduro bikes as trail bikes, and vice versa. The goal was to bring in a good cross-section of what's available at this pricepoint to highlight their strengths and weaknesses, and to determine who the ideal candidate for a specific model would be.”
Interesting that the Marin received more praise in its review yet Kaz gave the YT .25 more donuts. I challenge the scientific objectivity of his rating system!
not sure if true in the us.. but in Europe there is a sale going of atm and its going over the counter for 1999€ (~2200$) for any european (and maybe our friends overseas)
yep, on the us website its going for $1999
Yep is the same. The 3299 usd version is going for 2799 usd
Just bought 29 Capra 1，still needs to wait for one month to get.
Could you pleas use white text when showing the geometry numbers. The red text is not legible
If that Red coat starts bashing Timmies, he can sail back to Bristol and much on some Bellend Bits.
Interesting, but i still can´t decide between the capra core 1 MX and rhe canyon torgue AL 5.0 Mullet
What did u choose ? I just bought the core 1 Mx in XL I’m 6’1 and this is my first MTB I think I’ll like it
Haven’t received it yet should be here in a few days
Just ordered a Core 2! and was able to buy a core 1 for my wife that a customer returned / hadn't ridden really for 2k instead of 3k! we are so stoked on how the bikes ride after demoing them. Vid of me demoing a capra 29 is on my channel. Can't wait for mine to show up.
they are also giving her a warranty on the returned bike she bought which is awesome. It is technically a '22 but hasn't been ridden. They set her up tubeless, cut her bars down, installed her pedals/ bottle mount and setup her sag all free of cost. Very friendly and good people at the San Clemente location.
I would of like to have seen the Polygon in the mix, just to see how it fairs again with this group of bikes in the budget class of bikes. It's still probably one of the best bang for the buck bikes. They have been on sale for 1,999 for quite a while now.
Now the capra is 1.999
@@HenriqueOliveira-dy1hy that's awesome. Everything is coming back down to earth from the pandemic.
Where is Levy at?
Release the tapes!
Can we get Dario to wear a cop uniform?
On a side note, 37 pounds? Holy Guacamole!
I’ve been riding on an NX drivetrain for a year and a half and it was an absolute lemon. I have to adjust it every few rides, and I bent the derailleur yesterday, no clue how. I have a GX derailleur and shifter coming to replace it. Good riddance.
Is the core 2 like the same but different suspension and some other parts?
Pretty much. The gx obviously has gx drivetrain but the brakes are Code and the wheels are different. The frames are the exact same
What size frame did you test here?
Large
0:35 *Curio and the Dazzleman
Im about to buy myself a new bike and im really undecided between this one and the new canyon torque mullet al 5. The capra is currently 1999 euros while the torque is 2399 but has a zeb select, complete deore and race face wheels. From a value standpoint i think the canyon easily wins but im wondering if would enjoy more a less extreme bike, what would you guys say?
Spectral maybe
@@DarthBane555 yeah i thought about it but the spectral mullet is CF only and spectral AL is not on sale right now
Torque costs only 2200 now
@@Chr027 im finishing up mine ;)
Hope ya went with the Capra
Now that all the geo experiments are out of the way, all the bikes are getting so similar in geometry across the board. What will bikes look like in 2030?
Weird to include the Capra instead of the Jeffsy on these Trail comparisons...
There's no core 1 jeffsy, this model is new, and they've reviewed the jeffsy at least twice
@@matthewserna7475 I can understand not being new, but the Jeffsy Core 2 is between $2500-$3000. Right in the middle of the other bikes.
@Maxwell1725P it's already been reviewed in it's current generation for the value field test. This bike is brand new and people want input on it. This is the value field test not the trail bike field test. This fits the category they are evaluating
Get out there and practice practice practice to advance your skill and it’s not necessary the bike As long as you have, the suspension adjusted accordingly
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Kario and Dazimer!😅
Norco Optic vs Canyon Spectral 125!
They've already reviewed each, watch the reviews then look at the geo charts to see where certain performance attributes might come from and make the choice from there. But the answer is the optic.
Optic.
where's Levy?
Hate the SunRingle Rims and the transmission but it's very good for 2000
Throw some Hunt endurowides on there for $500 and you're good to go
The drivetrain, I'd replace the derailleur once the nx gets smashed, and keep the rest. It ain't that bad honestly. Else, just replace the cassette with the 11s stuff, which is more durable and smoother, whilst being cheaper.
@@ZhengZL69Ah, is the 12 speed that much worse than the 11 then? I was going to say that previously I've had NX 11 speed on two bikes, each of which I had for 2 years and it never missed a beat (was heavy, I guess but that's alright). And yet these guys seem unimpressed with the 12 speed.
@@GeorgeFrideric71 Hey, they're not bad per se, I don't want you to get that impression. But I personally only use the 51t on my shimano cassette twice a ride, and not for too long, so I could live with a 10-46t or even a 42t with a 30t chainring.
The jumps between 11 and 12 is not that much for enduro bikes, and having a shorter cage/more space for the gears means it's less prone to getting smacked out of whack, specially if you run a 12 speed chain.
Ideally I'd run an 11 speed drivetrain with a 12 speed chain, but until my 12 speed cassette wears out, I'mma keep bending my derailleur hanger to counter-balance all the bends that my derailleur has haha. (I also think gearboxes are the future, so... yeah)
Wow, talk about over analyzing Also, all the new bikes are very good. You have to adjust them shorter stem, shorter Kranks, and make adjustments according to you, but all the bikes are very good with very little difference a performance.
Maybe I Canyon Torque AL be cheaper and better...
a full size behind everyone else in reach, even santa cruz is more up to date, and they held onto square road bike geometry for way too long
If no new geo for 24, I'm moving on. My 2020 Jeffsy is sitting around 65 in low now, and 160mm.
The only Capra I want is the Car.
pretty crazy to think about that we are calling an almost 3k bike a budget bike
it's 2k and it's one of the cheapest full suspension enduro bikes on the market
Seriously they made the whole video about capra being shorter and slacker while choosing wrong size (YT offers XXL and has sizes scaled down) and comparing it against trail bikes ?? Love pinkbike but this reviews are getting even worse then their standard 'long commercials' reviews ..
it's 2000€
My Capra broke immediately and YT sucked to deal with
#whereislevy
If kazimer is back then so am I
Caria & Dazimer 😆😆😆
Let me guess, this budget bike is at least 5000€?
Around 2000
@@ThePupyl oh, ok great 👍 😊
5000 euro is not a really budget bike,, my budget bike is a bike circa 2017 with fine components and 2000 $ price max.
YT Capra Core 1 literally cost 1999 euro lol
"value" 2700$ 😭
37 lbs. is fat.
TIL: $5500 AUD is the new "budget bike"
its the core 1
damn you guys getting fcked by import costs i guess, its the equivalent of 3300 aud in europe as of today
This bike is 40 pounds, there is no pop, it’s a snowplow
Not really impressed by it. Something about it being pretty vanilla and not a standout in any feature.
You lot are awkward…
I Love my Jeffsy, but I have to say YT has the worst welds in the industry, and their matte black shows all of the shitty stuff.
how is ur jeffsy so far? i have the core 2 for almost 2 years now. i love it, but i wish i snagged one of the on sale capras for riding heavier park stuff.
@@itr0863 I ride the north shore and squamish with this, and rent a DH in Whistler.
Jeffsy is 160 with -1 degree headset, sitting around 64.5 HA.
Anyone try a 27.5 rear?