@@phongphan7917 I think it's to be read as "fk(ing) dog" which is Aussie slang for a traitor. (Edit: unless I'm just reading into things too much, lol)
T1's COO was seen cussing outside of the T1 headquarters, where the lights inside were all on at 3am in the morning. This really might be the most insane pro league controversy to date.
If the rumors are true, that agent basically hurt both T1, Doran, and Zeus's -reception- reputation for the fat paycheque. T1 looks very sure that they are able to keep him. Merches are on pre-order, and they posted a BTS short of Zeus on instagram just a day before. If they knew they couldn't keep him, they'll definitely contact Kiin and Dudu immediately before they got locked, or even won't let Dal go beforehand. It's reasonable to assume that they've already reached verbal agreement, just like what the post on FM Korea said. The fact that the "Thank you Zeus" post is even shorter than "Thank you Dal" or "Thank you Roach" kind of speaks for the situation. That post reminds me of Canna... Feels bad for Doran. He's got big shoes to fill and he'll definitely be the scapegoat if things turn south. Hope he gets himself together and prove himself.
And there's no video just like roach it's so bad I think my god if the rumors are true this agency really hurt probably a player future for short term profit
@@LoneTrader-l1m I'm not 100% informed either, but what I gathered about Canna so far is that he was also in Verbal agreement with T1. His agency screwed things up between them and there was bad blood between T1 and Canna to the point where he is Blacklisted from T1, and T1 even pretend like Canna never existed in T1. It wasn't a respectable departure like Peanut, Scout, Bang, etc, who made cameo in T1 streams after leaving T1 because things were smooth. Most likely we will never see Zeus in T1 if things are same as Canna. Again it's just what I gathered so far from recent RatKing reddit, some of it could bot be true so take it with grain of salt.
If that’s the case fck those agency they only want money, though it is a sure thing that money matters the most but man can they let their players decide on where they want to play it says that zeus is willing to play another year or 1+1 contract but the agency messed it up
And they’re sympathetic to their player coz he deserve something more but the career of his own will be affected they are the ones who destroy player’s career but may zeus shines even brighter in another team best of luck to him still the best toplaner for me
Another speculation in the Korean community is that the agent intentionally sabotaged T1 so that Kiin and Zeus' salaries would increase even more in the coming years. Since the agent for Kiin and Zeus are the same person, by having both toplaners sign to other teams, the agent could have effectively shut down T1 having ANY top tier prospects in the top lane. If Doran hadnt signed with T1, T1 would have had a rookie or mediocre top, GenG (Kiin likely) or Hanhwa (Zeus likely) would likely win LCK and the two players would see an increase in their salaries, which the agent gets a cut of. Although purely speculation, the agent isn't exactly known for playing fair to teams.
@ lol an agent gets a cut whenever he signs a deal right? So no not from a win unless there’s some performance clause?? Doubt it. The hanhwa deal was already a bigger amount than T1’s offer this year so bigger cut this year and maybe more years to come.
just so you know Kiin and Zeus dont have the same manager, the speculation is that the two agents for them are very close and colluded - the translations meaning they acted in the same mind, not that they're specifically one person.
@@lurk3937 the problem is if his manager screwed him over. the person acting in his behalf supposedly XT edit: you can always be screwed over by someone with the authority to act or sign legally binding stuff on your behalf. if its true they'd have to waste time doin legal stuff instead of the actual activities they had for this time.
@@lurk3937 Tbh, if what was said is to be believed: T1 wanting to sign Zeus on a multi-year contract for 2.3mil (I heard HLE's offer was 2.7mil). Then I'd say Zeus would of been better off re-signing for T1, 400k isn't worth, for leaving of the best e-sports rosters ever made.
@@Ad_Dystopia branding and image wise, his cooked. If there's something East Asians value the most, its loyalty. People won't even be mad if he left in good terms, his agent just dicked down T1's chances to have a top. Good thing doran was FA still or T1 would've had to field in a random for top.
@@Ad_DystopiaNope, zeus popularity domestically just took a dive off a cliff. That means sponsorship deals, merch sales etc are all out the window. Cancellation on his ordered merch has already sky rocketed. So yes it’s very damaging for him and his career.
@@Ad_Dystopia high risk low reward more like it. he would had made more in the long term with brand deals t1 had prepped but agency would had gotten less money so they fucked everyone up for higher % for themselves.
Form what I heard on another forum rumers says that Zeus had not signed any kind of contact with other team at 3:40am while his agency told t1 that he did. (So you can see where the situation is going)
Hell even if it was about money, this is only short term gain. Zeus absolutely lost millions of money from T1 branding, the team was basically as popular as a kpop boy band, that shit prints ludicrous amounts of cash. For his sake I hope he left cause he believed in HLE or he didn't want the pressure of being on T1 because the dude just lost millions he could've had lmao
@@aure0521 Maybe he wanted to branch out and experience other things, but it seems to be more about money rather than team work. He prob plans to retire soon 1-3 years
Since Zeus is relatively young (20 years old) and inexperience with these kind of problem, I can kinda see his agency using him to squeeze more money. "Wrath must be met with wrath" - Ambessa
the real winner is still zeus(in terms of money) he got a giant ass bag. also its not like he went to mid team. hle is now a super team that can possibly sweep.
@@itsomegali5342Are teams no longer striving for academy prodigies anymore? What is the pride in winning trophies by assembling super teams with best of the best players with lots and lots of money? I know soccer teams do that too but it’s easier to do so in esports because the players are just five people. And most of the time, those super teams break up once they fail to secure Worlds or smth. Without much time to develop rapport with the teammates, they will always be mechanically gifted strangers doing what they are supposed to do each time they transfer to another team. That will hurt in high pressure tournaments because they lack the mental connection like players playing together for years. Also, it’s very rare that an assembled super team wins Worlds. They might win local or MSI but at Worlds, super teams always fail.
@@itsomegali5342 Zeus didn't win anything from what I see. He lost more then he gained so that's not a win. yea he did get more money and HLE is good ( I was thinking of following HLE games now on ) But he has to start from zero and build up understanding with other players. Many T1 fans are gonna hate him without knowing everything that went down and this will also create mental pressure for Zeus which is never a good thing.
I remember when Faker post a picture on his insta when they won world. The picture was cropped out Zeus and Rekkles 😂. Damn Faker was hinting the entire time.
whether it goes thru or not bc of the legality issues regarding what his agency did I think nonetheless we should inspire Doran to do his best for T1 as I know they will treat him well
I want Doran to succeed but not as much as I want Zeus back. Hopefully some legality issues are found that can be used to sever everything that’s happened thus far. T1 lose so much more than a player with Zeus leaving, their whole brand identity and the money it makes in ZOFGK are gone, it’s obvious why they’re pissed. Further, if T1 have a bad season and start to lose/don’t win Worlds, Doran will get blamed for literally everything.
@ i highly agree with this sentiment, a lot of what is discussed often overlooks that t1 wasn’t just a star team but a family and a brand and I knew deep down those players all wanted to stay as long as possible
Bad news for you bro it looks like based on rumors so not 100 percent that Zeus like Canna before him has burnt the T1 bridge there is no way back. They are incredibly mad and Doran has signed his contract, unlike Zeus who we don't know if he signed yet since their no official statement we don't even know if it was HLE he signed with. Like as soon as the news dropped they deleted all his content of him including changing his youtube channel name they are super pissed off.
@@Rivalrvnwould it be better to have two toplaners in T1? Doran is a very good player but he easily cracks under pressure. Also his playstyle is differenr from Zeus. He could be a sub kindalike Easyhoon when faker can't play azir.
@@matthewsmith4483well that doesnt mean theyre mad? As his contract expired, they dont have rights to his image? Ofc they have to take them down. Its legally correct. If they didnt, it could stunt the whole process when they try to sue his agency. Thats how things work. Multiple reporters have alr stated that they understand that the fault lies with the agency, not him.
If companies like Samsung can literally be the law because of their influence to the country, it wouldn't be surprising that many other companies are shady for their own profit.
in korea these CEOs can even rival the government, and the biggest companies are stronger than the government like Samsung, there is a lot of things you can do there if you're rich
more like zeus and his agent griefed t1 by delaying then signing kiin early, then when T1 panicks they go whoops HLE signed zeus. If doran did not exist, t1 would be playing with a random at top next year.
@@Adp32306 I doubt Zeus had any say in it. Getting a mere 400k more from HLE is nothing when he missed out on massive profit from ZOFGK merch brand and advertisement from T1. His agency probably lied to him about T1 wanting to negotiate so they could get big bonus from HLE.
wait. that's actually fucked up, but if im understanding it right then that means Doran actually saved T1. i hope his transition to T1 will be smooth and accepting to the fans...
Doran recently had his first T1 livestream, where he had a ton of fans watching and received a very warm welcome. He even commented multiple times that he was surprised by how nice the livestream chat was.
most people assumed that zeus and oner werent gonna renew if they didnt win this year. guma is well known to wanna be a lifer in t1 like faker, and keria more or less doesnt wanna support anyone besides guma at this point. so those 3 were definitely gonna renew. zeus was almost certainly gonna go, and oner was fairly up in the air. that being said, if this was just the agency greeding for more money, its kind of a shitty situation all around. t1 is obviously pissed, and this reeeally fucks with merchandising. if zeus wants to try working with another team of his own volition thats fine, but even as someone who doesnt care or really believe in the team (i like the players, but god i hate the fanbase and their seemingly fanatical fervor for them) this is a pretty scummy of the agency. it fucks over t1, it potentially burns bridges between them and zeus, and with how quickly they had to sign doran, i fear for how people are gonna hate on doran over it.
@@T0ffik1 anyone new signing to t1 after this latest roster breaks up is almost certainly going to recieve an unholy amount of hate for their first split. doran especially, because the fans already dont like him. yes its dorans decision, but i will never doubt the t1 fanbase to haze and flame people they dont like.
@@T0ffik1T1’s fan base is notoriously vicious. They’ve harassed T1 relentlessly when T1 didn’t perform well. They’ve even sent actual funeral wreaths to the T1 office. As a Faker and T1 fan, I’m immensely grateful that Doran, knowing how badly he could be treated by fans, still decided to step up and save T1.
tl;dr: the agency that represented Zeus got greedy/money hungry. They were playing double agent and ended up fking T1 in a crazy way (money) and now T1 is out for extreme revenge (legally)
I think Doran will do good in T1. Sad ro see Zeus go but I think Doran will find his confidence playing with the T1 roster. Nothing gives more confidence internationally than playing beside Faker
I agree, Zeus wasn't that great this year in LCK. Doran however was much more stable in LCK. The problem is the ceiling of this T1 roster wouldn't be the same anymore for sure. Now they cant play from the top side, Faker is a play maker, not a hyper carry mid laner, so Guma and Keria really need to step up for this roster to contest GenG and HLE.
Bro the ZOFGK roaster that won worlds TWICE, TWICE BRO and now he's gone ;-; swapped with doran 💀. I shouldn't have been so emotionally attacked to the roaster. No hate to doran but T1 for me was ZOFGK. It just feels different now. Edit: Im a doran fan now.
@@felix.1783 Because he is the only good top laner on the market at the time, if they hesitate too long, they might lose him too, and probably will have to use an entirely new toplaner since their T1 Academy top just left also.
@@felix.1783 there's many reason why they picked, first it's already last minute before the end of of season, second because this is so late into the off season the other top laner already locked in if they don't take doran we got more worse than him like kingen, hell no they take kingen over doran although we know doran as choker of intl at least he good when it comes to regional somehow
That's not how I wanted ZOFGK to end... If it really is all the fault of Zeus's agent, did T1 need to erase everything about Zeus so quickly? Even Rekkles, who left long ago, is still featured on their official website. T1 must be absolutely furious about Zeus. On another note, Guma mentioned something interesting during his stream back in 2022. I'll roughly translate what he said: "In the world of League of Legends, there should be a certain weight to things. Many young players these days make a lot of money at such a young age, but they don’t truly understand the weight of their positions. They also fail to grasp the sense of responsibility that comes with it." When a viewer asked if he was referring to Zeus, Guma responded, "No, I’m not implying Zeus, lol." Well well well.
i heard they responded to the criticism about removing all things related to zeus with something along the line of "we no longer have the rights to display that stuff"
@@krishan9739They already had verbal agreement, T1 had all these plans prepared for ZOFGK, now T1 will lose millions because of him. Fans were sad that he left but now they are angry because of "how" he did it.
@@anaepeot nah like I dont think Zeus is the one in charge of the situation here. Zeus has a said before that he enjoys staying at T1 and from the interactions he has with the other members of OFGK you can see that his love for them is real. Yet his agent is the one in the wrong. i cant believe you finish this entire video and still think its Zeus's fault.
Zeus didn’t want to leave T1, he had a verbal agreement with T1 for a 2 year deal but his corrupt agent fucked it all up. Doran kinda save T1 even tho he was not the 1st option, if T1 couldn’t sign Zeus he would be the next in line and he waited for T1. Poor Zeus tho my boy didn’t want to leave but his agent fucked it all up. Nevertheless it’s time to move on, Thank you Zeus and welcome to the team Doran! Let’s win worlds again this time with this roster and prove the haters wrong!
Why are people this delusional, the player has the ultimate decision, if Zeus really wanted to stay he could've. Don't be an idiot, he wanted to leave and he left
I think the T1 organization and Zeus both did what was best for themselves. I mean his agent got him 2-3 million Euros. That's a lot of money for most of us, life changing for most and significantly more than he would've received from T1 and there was no way T1 could match that with Fakers massive contract and if they paid Zeus they would then have to pay everyone else. Besides Faker how can you differentiate everyone's worth on T1? I think most of us would always take the money first if working conditions were similar. I can't blame anyone in this situation. HIs agency did what they were suppose to do... they got him the most money out there while getting a bigger pay cheque for themselves.
I agree w others that he did have the final say, but since Zeus is so young and w how it seems like his agency blocked verbal meetings w t1, there is the possibility of manipulation/Zeus not fully understanding what was happening or what his agent was doing; especially since this seems like it would leave so much bad blood between Zeus and t1
@@LTX-v6o A one-time payment of 3 mil vs 2.6 mil + a lifetime of financial support via fans, brand, etc.. not to mention the likelihood of more trophies. Did he _really_ do what was best for himself though..? I think his agent did what was best for himself & manipulated a kid that doesn't know any better.
well HLE with him on paper looks extremely good for sure a worlds contender, include a safer contract and less pressure and hassle then being on t1 getting ddosed and trucked can't be very fun and tbh I don't think it's that surprising that he'd choose to go somewhere else.
@@hahayessir400They were planning on taking (or trying to at least) Kiin if they couldn’t get Zeus but with how shady they were about Zeus you may be right lol
@@bravepotatoe7513 Nah GenG roster is stronger. This was arguably the best meta for Peanut/Zeka/Delight to do well and they failed. I don't see another meta where it's just melee support tops (lane swaps prob getting nerfed), tank utility junglers, and melee mids. Also he now has more pressure because everyone wants to see him fail. Zeus is expected to win it all. He is cooked in this situation.
I can live with Zeus going to another team by his own accord but if his agency did shady stuff just to get some extra cash, I can't accept that. I would very much like to see Zeus back in T1, whether it's this year or the next, but I just want both sides to have no regrets. I wish both T1 and Zeus the best and I pray they'll figure out the best path moving forward.
If T1's management can prove that Zeus' agent acted illegally and can prove Zeus was in on it, there is no way for Zeus to return to T1, especially since the rest of the team resigned quickly. And now Oner is being praised for saying in an interview that while money is important, being part of such an iconic team and especially being able to work together with Faker was super important to him. Of course, Oner's interview was shown before the news came out about Zeus' signing with HLE. It's too bad since I think Zeus will be collateral damage from his agent's greed. Fans are already turning their backs on him. I wish him good luck.
Sorry i dont see Zeus coming back even in 2026 Here the thing, all T1 former top laner never return to T1 The “Lck discount” for player who stay with team for years will have salary cap discount, but now he leave the discount being reset to zero So if him comeback in 2026, Zues will on low salary so T1 can balance salary between 5 players since his “discount” now gone and he must stay with low salary ( compare to OFGK ) for years to get back his “discount” Thats why i say he wont comeback, theres no way a success player like him allow himself with that such low salary, its 1 way trip to Zeus
Hes saying no sane succesful top laner would. They get bonus for loyalty and being on the team. Now that hes ledt, thats been reset so he would have to rejoin with a lower salary than before. Unless he is loyal and didn't want this initially, there's no reason to reduce your income so much. @arashi_ch
for me it's completely the other way around zeus (or any member of zofgk) leaving t1 on his own would make me hate him because it's a stupid decision him being a victim of his agent's greed is what's bringing me peace this also makes doran a victim so because of these news i'm willing to embrace him idk if i wanna support hle tho i obvs want zeus to do good in lane but i dont really care about the rest of the team
They also might've told lies to Zeus regarding his new contract with T1. If Zeus wanted to stay with T1, he wouldn't have signed with another team but with a lie, that can be easily changed.
@@Ad_Dystopia that we don't know for certain, but if his agency lied about what T1 negotiated, that could influence his decision. After all, T1 is really eager to give what ZOFGK wants just for them to stay
@@Ad_Dystopiai wouldn't say that he did. He probably was weighing his options but the agent was clearly lying to everyone. He 100% would have waited to see what t1 had, to lay it all out on the table first.
At the end of the day, Zeus has the final word. It’s his signature that finalizes a deal. He could have chosen to stay at T1 regardless of his manger’s shady dealings/desires and he didn’t. I am sure he understands how negatively it affects T1’s brand and future plans and yet he decided to leave anyways. Unless BTS he wasn’t vibing with the rest of ZOFGK, kind of a shellfish move to his friends and team that supported him.
Yeah I feel like we’re all infantilizing Zeus in this situation. He can’t be this oblivious to just “unknowingly” sign with a team that gave him more money up front.
Yes, this is true. I think the agent had already convinced his parents before moving with this shitshow. In Korean culture, parental pressure is the real deal and don't forget he is still just 20. But overall, Zeus should have stuck to T1
@@doublereel-real I know but the culture diff is real. Trust me people In Korea listen to their elders/parents well in their late 20s in important decisions. I am just stating a possibility here but there might be those types of pressure on him for this decision plus the shady agency .
@@doublereel-real Zeus has been playing league since he was a kid, I doubt he's had much real world experience especially at 20 to know if hes being manipulated. Hell Mike Tyson was being manipulated into his 30s Id lean more towards Zeus being manipulated by the agency especially considering the Kiin situation, he was probably given misleading info.
3mill for zeus new contract and 2 worlds what he wants now only chilling with high salary and new adventure for sure there is something hidden between him and T1 that no one will knows about and thats why he took the decision to leave because leaving after wining worlds is not ez decision
The video says why it happened, with T1 going to talk directly with Zeus but his agent running interference. Joe Marsh is a business man and is pretty transparent. He is speaking on the matter tomorrow. It is bad news for Zeus and whatever team he goes to if there was shady business to make this happen.
im not sure he is chilling when people want doran and t1 to smoke HLE in 2025. His fans are now cheering for his downfall cause of this shortsighted decision. They blocked t1 from getting kiin too.
At the end of the day, Zeus signed the paper knowing that the T1 org was willing to invest so much into his branding (and their own), longevity, and growth. He ultimately made the decision to short term profits over potential long term gains. Zeus has completely shattered all good faith and standing he has with the most successful esports org in the world. He better hope that he HLE sweeps every split and every international tourney because there isn't any coming back from this. Personally, I hope Doran and T1 absolutely dismantle HLE and the rest of the LCK next year.
@@BrotatoVT this comment alone is the reason I think Zeus went to sign with HLE. The T1 fan base can be lunatic sometimes, he got more money, less pressure and a chance to become triple World Champion out of Faker's shadow.
Chill. You are making a lot of assumptions about people and organizations you barely know anything about. For all we know zeus might have felt forced to a decision, lied to by his management or threatened with being dropped by them should he not make a decision while being told that t1's offer was piss poor and he deserved better. These kinds of dealings have absurd amounts of politics in them and we have almost no information to make judgements upon the characters of individuals involved. Zeus will likely never return to t1 and very likely t1 will do what they can tarnish his reputation in retaliation, no matter who the real guilty party is since they cannot let such a slide go by them. But these are all speculations and guesses and we have no idea if zeus even actually made the decision or knew the full situation
The thing is HLE hasn't announced anything regarding Zeus yet, and Zeus' agent might've fucked him over with the negotiations with T1 but this is me giving him the benefit of the doubt. Zeus might've wanted to stay with T1 but his agent is trying to get more value out of him and it could've pissed T1 off and just went "fuck this shit" and signed doran immediately after his departure from HLE since they got no other options left.
The recent developments with Zeus and T1 are frustrating, especially considering how the situation was handled. This isn’t the first time Zeus has signed a contract, so he should be fully aware of what this time of year entails. Instead of communicating his intentions earlier, he waited until his contract expired and immediately signed elsewhere, leaving no room for discussion with T1's management. Even if T1's higher-ups had arrived on time, it seems like his decision was already made. By waiting until the last moment, Zeus effectively backed his former team into a corner, giving them no opportunity to prepare or negotiate with other players. For example, T1 could have pursued someone like Kiin if Zeus had been upfront about his plans. It's disappointing to see someone leave like this, especially from an organization that nurtured him and helped him grow. I had hoped they could part ways on good terms, but this just makes me feel he's ungrateful. As a T1 fan, I’m incredibly thankful for Doran stepping in. Without him, I’m not sure who else could have filled this crucial role during such a challenging time.
Players dont get choices when they are signed with an agency. You should look up how agency works. The agency can block any deal the player make. There's nothing Zeus can do. Look at when G2 sold Perkz to C9. Perkz wanted to stay in Europe but G2 blocked it because they didnt want another LEC team to get Perkz. The player doesnt get to decide where they go. The org and agency does.
@noohkot then stop being a biased T1 fan and look how it looker in reality. T1 was late by 1 f hour (what is absurd and unprofesional and shows lack of any respect for Zeus), they came up with mediacore offer to trump it up! They started to make merch and PR without even being top bid for Zeus. Full on lack of profesionalism. Now they behave like a small raging baby crying around and making fuss. Sorry to say it, but T1 fucked up royally here. Its all their fault. If they would be top bid Zeus would probably take their offer (and would be even advised by his agency to take it). They just wanted him to be the charity pick that goes for them for T1s sake and not for his own. He has limited time to play and has to make the most amount of money from it. Maybe they should have payed other player less then they could affort Zeus.
@@T0ffik1 I don’t think you follow it closely enough. T1 tried everything they can. They supposed to have a meeting but Zeus’s side canceled. And that 3pm is not scheduled. It is the time that Zeus contract expired. They have to rush there and Zeus was probably sitting in some room reading the contracts from HLE already. It would be crazy if it was not planned ahead. HLE and T1 offer the same amount FYI. And yes, I do say I’m a T1 fan, it does not mean I will hate whoever left this team. We’ve been here long enough to see a lot of people come and go. But not like this, not the last minute bomb.
this is really devastating tbh like that team was just goated and made me enjoy watching pro play i really loved waatching watching the 5 of them together
that isnt at all any conflict of interest. Whole world works like that. There isnt a law that prohibits an agency to have 2 players of the same type at roster. Do you think that every player from every sport belongs to different agency LMAO!? Seriously grow up man :)
took me till the end of the vid to realize you were saying ZOFGK as in zeus, oner, faker, guma, and keria because im not british and not used to "Zed" for saying "Z" lol
Been a Zeus fan since he was coming up and a T1 fan ever since LCK was first announced. now that Zeus is leaving, it broke my heart. I really wanted to see ZOFGK to stay together and win another one but thank you to Zeus for serving T1 and hope to see his future endeavors but won't be rooting for him in the other team. I believe he will come back to T1 in the future.
I don't think that's going to happen.... T1 seems to have felt very angry at Zeus and his agent's move. There are many players who have left badly in the past, but I've never seen T1 respond like this.😢
We were so spoiled to see ZOFGK for three years and we knew eventually that it would end, but even if you expect it, you just don't know how to take it in honestly. Still glad to witness the legendary roster. GGWP
The one at fault is the manager if all of this is true, but people are still hating on Zeus, he is just 20 years old, kids like him get trapped in shady management contracts all the time
@@spacerice1808 T1 didn't even meet Zeus personally during the attempted resigning. His manager contacted them at 2 in the morning and did the contract without the player present.
@@kimjessy8267 you really don't understand how predatory some managment companies are, it happens in every industry, like music or football, players get trapoed in shady contracts because of their inexperience
I'd like to give Zeus the benefit of the doubt and say it's possible it's his agency that is blocking the T1 signing. Otherwise if it really is greed, it's just very unfortunate that Zeus could have that money over family philosophy.Either way no one knows the full story until it's out
His agency can't force him to sign one contract over the other. They negotiate for him, but ultimately he signed the contract based on the options he knew about. Now, could his agency have misled him into thinking T1 wasn't willing to budge on the offer he knew about from T1? Sure. Even if that was the case, again, he still chose to sign with another team for more money (and I think a longer contract).
I don't think greed is the right word. He's a professional, getting a better team on paper, a better salary, with a less toxic fandom, with a chance to win his third Worlds without Faker, something never done before.
@@codingorgaming982 they absolutely can, they can even say what team or what he wont allow him to do. You are not in the entertainment industry and you have never worked there, stfu
I don’t blame Zeus because in the end it is his still his job at the end of the day and it’s not like they’re not friends anymore just because he changed teams
They would have absolutely upped the offer even by a million. This discounting the profits of the ZOFGK merchandise and the massive popularity and audience staying in T1 would give him. This is literally shit for Zeus and his career, not that his agency cares apart from making a quick buck. Would be both hilarious and sad if it gets out that the agency is getting paid by others to sabotage T1, because they almost leave them without a top-tier top player for this next year.
idk what they'e thinking if they DON'T re-sign him cause if anything, zeus was undeniably the fcking mvp of 2023 worlds that finally got them back into championship status again
If he left on good terms, T1 would not be this angry. They basically griefed the kiin deal, and almost got T1 to not have a top locked for next year, if doran was signed already.
Let's also take into account that Zeus' parents wanted him to leave T1 last year but Oner convinced him to stay. So it could either be the agency or his parents greeding or maybe even both? We cant really say that zeus changed his mind because he was also invested in the idea that they should stick together. Add in the fact that everyone that left gave out a statement on twitter after being announced that they're leaving the team while zeus just got a post. Very suspicious indeed.
Zeus is different bro, T1 literally went to 3 Worlds finals, and won 2 of them ever since they got Zeus. That kind of proves that he was one of the biggest factors for T1's international wins.
I kinda leaning towards Zeus is actually wanted to leave T1 idea, instead of these baseless rumours. It doesn't make any sense to me how an agent can manipulate which contract you will sign out of your own free will. If Zeus really did sign a contract with other teams, then it's his will to do it. I just felt that everyone is on denial phase about these whole situation. Don't get me wrong, I'm a T1 fan, and has been since I first saw that Faker Ryu clip released. But it just doesn't make any sense. (I'll say it twice)
My understanding is Korean agencies effectively own the player and make all executive decisions. It could vary between esports and the music industry but I don't believe by mutch.
If Zeus has already accepted another contract, even if T1 goes through with the suit and successfully proves malice (or whatever Korean similar) and malpractice(?), Zeus will likely be stuck to where he signed. If everything is as you've said, this really feels like a lose-lose situation for T1 and Zeus, unless he, and his team, performs exceptionally well. I'd expect, should T1 successfully prove what they're claiming, Zeus will try to drop the agent - assuming he's given the opportunity
It's interesting to me to find out how much say Zeus had in this whole ordeal, if he had a verbal agreement with T1, why would he suddenly abandon it? If he just up and did that, then it would really be him picking money over ZOFGK, but if the agent played the biggest part in this, it's just going to ruin Zeus' image. So in terms of Zeus' image it's a loose-loose no matter who played a part, since he's the one that's actually in the spotlight. If it's all just for a bigger cheque in the end, it seems extreme that his own agent would do that to him, unless they're just that greedy? It's gonna be interesting to follow along as this all unfolds, there's so many details we're missing...
@@Darkstormsun9865 No, this is Zeus's fault. Blaming the agent about money when Zeus is the one who is also hard to contact/communicate with. Dude just wanted a big contract but fumbled the bag not because of his agent but because of him also.
Im a student in law. This year im studying contract law. When i first heard about the story i was like "no zeuuus" then while watching your video i began to have like law flashbacks lmao. This my contract law exam in the end of semester about bad faith during negociations and unilateral breach of negociations. This made my Day
Insert Kylo Ren " TRAITOR" meme. Jokes aside he won worlds and successfully defend his thrown so there's nothing left for him to proof here which mean it's money time. Honestly I don't blame him and would have done the same if I were him
Yeah sure, went from receiving 2 and a half million dollars to 3 mil, all of that to leave the team that roots and built him up to be what he is right now, if that was his decision it's very poor to say the least, if it's the agency being greedy then I can't on good faith blame him. Regardless, it's not like he wasn't receiving well at T1, you guys talk in a way that it seems Zeus had 20 bucks a month or something. He's already rich bro.
griefing your old team though by delaying your decision and then suddenly signing after your counterpart Kiin gets signed so T1 top lane roster gets left to the wolves is fucked. Given that he was just a CL player in T1, that t1 built to be a world champ.
@@Alexandre-gg7qd its LOL esport, he has very limited time. So its a huge chance in pay. few years of extra 0,4/5 mil is a fucking LOT (and its said T1 didnt want to refresh his worth every year - whats a huge bad deal for him). and he isnt there co charity T1 for inferior pay.
Quite sad honestly Doran said back then to his fans to just hold on even when there's criticisms, he'll prove he's worthy for the position. Has a big shoes to fill but let's support him. There's a chance he'll grow into a great part of the team through effort and passion
With this roster change, T1 is now buffed domestically, but nerfed internationally. I hope T1 and Faker can help and guide Doran maintain his composure.
People hating on Zeus for not staying in T1 are seriously so incredibly deadbrain, so everyone can leave their team but T1 members? they are still a company, everything that starts will come to an end, Messi Suarez and Neymar also parted ways in their moment, it's his life
@@urgotbostero dude, as a Brazilian and Barça Fan, it's sad that Neymar left the best attack trio ever to lose his career in PSG, but he's a favela boy, more money to his family and a chance to win UCL without Messi's shadow, just like Zeus here with Faker. Let's see if it pays off.
griefing your old team though by delaying your decision and then suddenly signing after your counterpart Kiin gets signed so T1 top lane roster gets left to the wolves is fucked. Given that he was just a CL player in T1, that t1 built to be a world champ.
@@Adp32306 What's appearing to be true is that it's the agency fault and Zeus was caught in the middle of these shenanigans. Apart from that, he can choose whatever team he wants, he's a pro, there is no loyalty for life in sports or eSports, Faker is a rare breed.
What controversy? Zeus got an offer for a good salary with a good contract length with hle and t1 didnt want to match/exceed it. He went with whats best for his situation, t1 will carry on and so will he. Alot of the players between teams still have alot of respect and like eachother so i dont think hes suddenly gonna be hated and im excited to see the future of both him and doran. alot of people want to see drama and try to realize it irl. Lets not bring that energy to life, unless the people involved choose to. Will be happy to see how everyone performs next split 🎉
NOTICE: this opinion is my thoughts of the situation of known info. IF it comes out that the rumors of his agency making some legally questionable moves then my view will change
@@privateholt464the problem is that he didn’t leave on good terms. What Zeus manager did was from what I at least have heard, hiding contract details so he won’t resign. Also they didn’t inform the org till the last moment that he was leaving, so t1 wasn’t prepared to look for a new top. If they were informed in proper time they could have singed kiin etc. if it wasn’t for Dorian t1 would have to sign a rookie top. So what happened was shady af. Also t1 is the most profitable org in the world, players earn a lot of money apart from their contracts (merch sales, sponsors etc etc). From what I know, the manager of Zeus doesn’t get paid from these, she only gets paid from resignings and the monthly salary. So financially speaking, Zeus staying at t1 was a better option even for less money per year, but for his manager it was the best option to sign him elsewhere
"Known" information when it's absolutely incorrect. T1 WANTED to do anything to keep Zeus. They definitely would have upped the offer but the Agency didn't give them a chance. Thats the whole point. The Agency screwing over t1 from getting Zeus on purpose. T1 was going to meet with him in person but the Agency told T1 Zeus had already signed and didn't allow the meeting. Which other sources say Zeus did not sign with any team at that point.
The thing no one is talking about, is the agent not only screwed T1, OFGK and Zeus, but they also screwed Kiin. With T1 and OFGK we all know how they screwed them, but Zeus reputation took a big hit. He basically had a guaranteed career with T1, and they wouldve payed good money to keep him with them. Now hes basically black listed and they probably wont want to take him ever again. And not only that, but they basically rushed Kiin to resign with Geng, lowering his market value. I know he probably already wanted to resign, but T1 being ready to make offers if Zeus didnt resign wouldve made Geng offer him a better deal. So they just screwed him, T1, Zeus, OFGK, and Doran, my guy, who now has to take the hate from angry fans for not being Zeus. Really hope he can have a good redemption arc and shut up all his doubters.
There’s no fucking controversy other than weirdos who care too much about people they don’t know and have never met. Zeus went with the deal he thought was best for him and I’m proud.
Its not about zeus wanted to leave, if he want to leave he should have said so at the beginning so t1 can replace with Kiin but they doing some shaddy busssiness to try get more money and signing for other team anyway. Its almost fucked t1 cause Kiin already resign, after what they been throught its so ungrateful.
@ wow so you’re telling me an agent was doing everything that would be expected of an agent. Again there’s no controversy here but people are gonna buy those dumb fuck trucks again and make something out of nothing.
@@rjs9228expected of an Agent? By almost illegally denying a player his options and intentionally miscommunicating? Why do you think t1 themselves are so pissed and wants to sue the Agency? Yes people are so invested in this because we want to see them win worlds again. DUH!
@ he didn’t act illegally though, and for the moment these are primarily unsourced allegations. Was the agent scummy as fuck in his conduct? Yes absolutely. Did he maximize Zeus’ payout and therefor his payout? Also yes. But as of right now he’s done nothing illegal. He’s just kind of an asshole.
![T1 Doran stream: Faker likes me, Oner is handsome & how he got the contract [ENG SUB w chat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DHKcLHFiDrU/mqdefault.jpg)
from ZOFGK to FKDOG
Holy shit
why not FKGOD ?
@@phongphan7917 it will be GODFK after Faker does his magic, just like he did with Huni
@@phongphan7917 I think it's to be read as "fk(ing) dog" which is Aussie slang for a traitor. (Edit: unless I'm just reading into things too much, lol)
DOGFK, even
T1's COO was seen cussing outside of the T1 headquarters, where the lights inside were all on at 3am in the morning. This really might be the most insane pro league controversy to date.
Wow
Damnn
lmao, thats so funny if true
Source? Is there a video of it?
@@ChikoTheOGDog there are pictures
If the rumors are true, that agent basically hurt both T1, Doran, and Zeus's -reception- reputation for the fat paycheque.
T1 looks very sure that they are able to keep him. Merches are on pre-order, and they posted a BTS short of Zeus on instagram just a day before.
If they knew they couldn't keep him, they'll definitely contact Kiin and Dudu immediately before they got locked, or even won't let Dal go beforehand.
It's reasonable to assume that they've already reached verbal agreement, just like what the post on FM Korea said.
The fact that the "Thank you Zeus" post is even shorter than "Thank you Dal" or "Thank you Roach" kind of speaks for the situation.
That post reminds me of Canna...
Feels bad for Doran. He's got big shoes to fill and he'll definitely be the scapegoat if things turn south. Hope he gets himself together and prove himself.
And there's no video just like roach it's so bad I think my god if the rumors are true this agency really hurt probably a player future for short term profit
Not updated on canna issue, can u enlighten me?
@@LoneTrader-l1m I'm not 100% informed either, but what I gathered about Canna so far is that he was also in Verbal agreement with T1. His agency screwed things up between them and there was bad blood between T1 and Canna to the point where he is Blacklisted from T1, and T1 even pretend like Canna never existed in T1. It wasn't a respectable departure like Peanut, Scout, Bang, etc, who made cameo in T1 streams after leaving T1 because things were smooth. Most likely we will never see Zeus in T1 if things are same as Canna. Again it's just what I gathered so far from recent RatKing reddit, some of it could bot be true so take it with grain of salt.
If that’s the case fck those agency they only want money, though it is a sure thing that money matters the most but man can they let their players decide on where they want to play it says that zeus is willing to play another year or 1+1 contract but the agency messed it up
And they’re sympathetic to their player coz he deserve something more but the career of his own will be affected they are the ones who destroy player’s career but may zeus shines even brighter in another team best of luck to him still the best toplaner for me
Faker: The 6th trophy is for Doran
Nice dude, which of the 200 videos did you copy and paste this from? 👍🏼
@@TheMeefmasterWhy does that matter dude ? Why are u being mean .
Its gonna be tough 😂
how about we cancel doran, the 6th is for zeus
@@rajew5356 he is a baiter in search of attention, and oh boy did you get baited
Another speculation in the Korean community is that the agent intentionally sabotaged T1 so that Kiin and Zeus' salaries would increase even more in the coming years.
Since the agent for Kiin and Zeus are the same person, by having both toplaners sign to other teams, the agent could have effectively shut down T1 having ANY top tier prospects in the top lane. If Doran hadnt signed with T1, T1 would have had a rookie or mediocre top, GenG (Kiin likely) or Hanhwa (Zeus likely) would likely win LCK and the two players would see an increase in their salaries, which the agent gets a cut of. Although purely speculation, the agent isn't exactly known for playing fair to teams.
So he doesn't get a cut from Zeus winning with T1? :))
@ lol an agent gets a cut whenever he signs a deal right? So no not from a win unless there’s some performance clause?? Doubt it.
The hanhwa deal was already a bigger amount than T1’s offer this year so bigger cut this year and maybe more years to come.
@@kevinlee5409 If it's percentage based which i expect, then making these deals are good for him.
It's most likely that any outside Gain zeus gets is his with no cuts for the Agent which is why that agent got greedy
just so you know Kiin and Zeus dont have the same manager, the speculation is that the two agents for them are very close and colluded - the translations meaning they acted in the same mind, not that they're specifically one person.
bruh if this is another scenario of "manager" greed, ill be pissed
zeus is also his own person and would play wherever he wanted
@@lurk3937 the problem is if his manager screwed him over. the person acting in his behalf supposedly XT
edit: you can always be screwed over by someone with the authority to act or sign legally binding stuff on your behalf. if its true they'd have to waste time doin legal stuff instead of the actual activities they had for this time.
@@lurk3937 Watch the video again, bro.
@@lurk3937 Tbh, if what was said is to be believed: T1 wanting to sign Zeus on a multi-year contract for 2.3mil (I heard HLE's offer was 2.7mil).
Then I'd say Zeus would of been better off re-signing for T1, 400k isn't worth, for leaving of the best e-sports rosters ever made.
@@lurk3937wrong in south korea is the agent that decide
As Zeus is my top T1 member, this is devastating to me ngl.
the lane or your no 1 lol
@@EragoTheOne No. 1 ofc lol
Lol. Not faker huh?
Zeus isn't even my no.1 T1 member but I'm still devastated
be happy for the guy that he got his bag secured.
It's ancient Greece all over again.
Wut
@@eltonjohntubola3212 everyone tries to fuck everyone.
@@eltonjohntubola3212he said it's ancient Greece all over again
@@j0hnyb0y909 and he said What?
@@j0hnyb0y909 I want to ask which part of Ancient Greece is he talking about.
i am 99% sure the agency screwed Zeus over big time by greeding.
Leaving T1 is a high risk, high reward move. Future will tell, if he really is that good of a player. HLE would be a great team for him.
I kinda doubt that, because if he really wanted to stay he would've made that clear from the start and reached out to them personally.
@@Ad_Dystopia branding and image wise, his cooked. If there's something East Asians value the most, its loyalty. People won't even be mad if he left in good terms, his agent just dicked down T1's chances to have a top. Good thing doran was FA still or T1 would've had to field in a random for top.
@@Ad_DystopiaNope, zeus popularity domestically just took a dive off a cliff. That means sponsorship deals, merch sales etc are all out the window.
Cancellation on his ordered merch has already sky rocketed. So yes it’s very damaging for him and his career.
@@Ad_Dystopia high risk low reward more like it. he would had made more in the long term with brand deals t1 had prepped but agency would had gotten less money so they fucked everyone up for higher % for themselves.
Form what I heard on another forum rumers says that Zeus had not signed any kind of contact with other team at 3:40am while his agency told t1 that he did. (So you can see where the situation is going)
real? cause that means the agency was paid. damn looks like someones spending a lot of money for t1 to lose.
@@pumime9963 that has been the story since last year. Someone rich in China been spending LOADS of money to specifically ddos T1 players all year
@@pumime9963 I mean the ddos didn't work out so maybe they decided to go for the people themself
sounds like corruption to me
@@pumime9963 they don't want T1 to have a chance at 3peat :D
talk about a can of worms
if the agency was proven guilty of maliciously breaking ZOFGK, not sure the whole of S.Korea would take that lightly
perfect timing
Tch. It's all about the money in the end. This is why Faker's loyalty meant so much in his legacy.
@@somegalulbad642 More money, less trucking, ggs
Hell even if it was about money, this is only short term gain. Zeus absolutely lost millions of money from T1 branding, the team was basically as popular as a kpop boy band, that shit prints ludicrous amounts of cash. For his sake I hope he left cause he believed in HLE or he didn't want the pressure of being on T1 because the dude just lost millions he could've had lmao
Yo retar, faker gets more money then all of geng and T1 combined. COMBINED!
@@aure0521 Maybe he wanted to branch out and experience other things, but it seems to be more about money rather than team work. He prob plans to retire soon 1-3 years
@@krishan9739bro allegedly declined a 20M dollar offer during his prime
The Zeus situation is insane
It do be
@Jaquavios-dy8fn you must be fun at parties
@@Jaquavios-dy8fn why are you even in here
@@SenCreampie most of his comments are legit saying its not a real sport. bro actually has no life LMAO
@@Jaquavios-dy8fn It is a real sport whether you like it or cry about it! 😂😂😂
Since Zeus is relatively young (20 years old) and inexperience with these kind of problem, I can kinda see his agency using him to squeeze more money. "Wrath must be met with wrath" - Ambessa
the real winner is still zeus(in terms of money) he got a giant ass bag. also its not like he went to mid team. hle is now a super team that can possibly sweep.
@@itsomegali5342no? Lol
@@itsomegali5342 BLG will still sweep them, if T1 is not winning, my support would be BLG
@@itsomegali5342Are teams no longer striving for academy prodigies anymore?
What is the pride in winning trophies by assembling super teams with best of the best players with lots and lots of money? I know soccer teams do that too but it’s easier to do so in esports because the players are just five people.
And most of the time, those super teams break up once they fail to secure Worlds or smth. Without much time to develop rapport with the teammates, they will always be mechanically gifted strangers doing what they are supposed to do each time they transfer to another team. That will hurt in high pressure tournaments because they lack the mental connection like players playing together for years.
Also, it’s very rare that an assembled super team wins Worlds. They might win local or MSI but at Worlds, super teams always fail.
@@itsomegali5342 Zeus didn't win anything from what I see. He lost more then he gained so that's not a win. yea he did get more money and HLE is good ( I was thinking of following HLE games now on ) But he has to start from zero and build up understanding with other players. Many T1 fans are gonna hate him without knowing everything that went down and this will also create mental pressure for Zeus which is never a good thing.
I remember when Faker post a picture on his insta when they won world. The picture was cropped out Zeus and Rekkles 😂. Damn Faker was hinting the entire time.
Rekkles should have never been in the picture anyway. He played zero part in T1s world victory
@@justin9744 thats not true. he was influential in supplying snacks and water 😁
I think that’s cropped by ins automatically because it often happen to me when posting pics😂
whether it goes thru or not bc of the legality issues regarding what his agency did I think nonetheless we should inspire Doran to do his best for T1 as I know they will treat him well
I want Doran to succeed but not as much as I want Zeus back. Hopefully some legality issues are found that can be used to sever everything that’s happened thus far. T1 lose so much more than a player with Zeus leaving, their whole brand identity and the money it makes in ZOFGK are gone, it’s obvious why they’re pissed.
Further, if T1 have a bad season and start to lose/don’t win Worlds, Doran will get blamed for literally everything.
@ i highly agree with this sentiment, a lot of what is discussed often overlooks that t1 wasn’t just a star team but a family and a brand and I knew deep down those players all wanted to stay as long as possible
Bad news for you bro it looks like based on rumors so not 100 percent that Zeus like Canna before him has burnt the T1 bridge there is no way back. They are incredibly mad and Doran has signed his contract, unlike Zeus who we don't know if he signed yet since their no official statement we don't even know if it was HLE he signed with. Like as soon as the news dropped they deleted all his content of him including changing his youtube channel name they are super pissed off.
@@Rivalrvnwould it be better to have two toplaners in T1? Doran is a very good player but he easily cracks under pressure. Also his playstyle is differenr from Zeus. He could be a sub kindalike Easyhoon when faker can't play azir.
@@matthewsmith4483well that doesnt mean theyre mad? As his contract expired, they dont have rights to his image? Ofc they have to take them down. Its legally correct. If they didnt, it could stunt the whole process when they try to sue his agency. Thats how things work. Multiple reporters have alr stated that they understand that the fault lies with the agency, not him.
People think that american companies really skirt the law and do a lot of scummy shit but I have heard so much worse from Korean companies its insane.
Yeah, big companies there had the same amount of influence as the president, if not, more
its normal in a corporate world, always hit grey area
Kpop in a nut shell.
If companies like Samsung can literally be the law because of their influence to the country, it wouldn't be surprising that many other companies are shady for their own profit.
in korea these CEOs can even rival the government, and the biggest companies are stronger than the government like Samsung, there is a lot of things you can do there if you're rich
the agency was totally cockblocking t1 from signing zeus with how little time they gave t1 to make adjustments to the offer
T1 doesn’t feel like T1 without all 5 of those players
You must be a new fan, T1 is Faker. Despite all the roster changes, all of it is still him
@@oBarbinha yeah pretty set to stop following lol moment faker says adieu
You get used to it, when bengi bang wolf left, i was the same
T1 doesn’t feel like T1 without Faker 😒
@@midzy520 and Marin 😭
Damn... T1 making a desperate attempt to negotiate directly with Zeus only for them to miss it by an hour...
This shit hurts more than any breakup.
Zeus and his fam was ignoring T1 all day.
@@leaguefixesyourmatches8259 did you fcking watch the video where it says Zeus wanted 4 years?
more like zeus and his agent griefed t1 by delaying then signing kiin early, then when T1 panicks they go whoops HLE signed zeus. If doran did not exist, t1 would be playing with a random at top next year.
@@Adp32306 I doubt Zeus had any say in it. Getting a mere 400k more from HLE is nothing when he missed out on massive profit from ZOFGK merch brand and advertisement from T1. His agency probably lied to him about T1 wanting to negotiate so they could get big bonus from HLE.
from what im hearing they didn't miss, agent lied saying he already had signed when he in fact, had not.
wait. that's actually fucked up, but if im understanding it right then that means Doran actually saved T1. i hope his transition to T1 will be smooth and accepting to the fans...
Doran recently had his first T1 livestream, where he had a ton of fans watching and received a very warm welcome. He even commented multiple times that he was surprised by how nice the livestream chat was.
All T1 fans knew that if someone that was going to leave ZOFGK, it would be Zeus. That’s been an ongoing rumour.
most people assumed that zeus and oner werent gonna renew if they didnt win this year. guma is well known to wanna be a lifer in t1 like faker, and keria more or less doesnt wanna support anyone besides guma at this point. so those 3 were definitely gonna renew. zeus was almost certainly gonna go, and oner was fairly up in the air.
that being said, if this was just the agency greeding for more money, its kind of a shitty situation all around. t1 is obviously pissed, and this reeeally fucks with merchandising. if zeus wants to try working with another team of his own volition thats fine, but even as someone who doesnt care or really believe in the team (i like the players, but god i hate the fanbase and their seemingly fanatical fervor for them) this is a pretty scummy of the agency.
it fucks over t1, it potentially burns bridges between them and zeus, and with how quickly they had to sign doran, i fear for how people are gonna hate on doran over it.
@@mwbwyatt well it was Dorans decision, he didnt had to sign up, so there is nothing to fear or be sorry for him. He is an adult and knew the risks.
@@T0ffik1 anyone new signing to t1 after this latest roster breaks up is almost certainly going to recieve an unholy amount of hate for their first split. doran especially, because the fans already dont like him. yes its dorans decision, but i will never doubt the t1 fanbase to haze and flame people they dont like.
@@T0ffik1T1’s fan base is notoriously vicious. They’ve harassed T1 relentlessly when T1 didn’t perform well. They’ve even sent actual funeral wreaths to the T1 office.
As a Faker and T1 fan, I’m immensely grateful that Doran, knowing how badly he could be treated by fans, still decided to step up and save T1.
tl;dr: the agency that represented Zeus got greedy/money hungry. They were playing double agent and ended up fking T1 in a crazy way (money) and now T1 is out for extreme revenge (legally)
yeah. and even if we can muster some sympathy for Zeus, koreans 100% will not. he's very fucked
I think Doran will do good in T1. Sad ro see Zeus go but I think Doran will find his confidence playing with the T1 roster. Nothing gives more confidence internationally than playing beside Faker
I agree, Zeus wasn't that great this year in LCK. Doran however was much more stable in LCK. The problem is the ceiling of this T1 roster wouldn't be the same anymore for sure. Now they cant play from the top side, Faker is a play maker, not a hyper carry mid laner, so Guma and Keria really need to step up for this roster to contest GenG and HLE.
I'm low key kinda looking forward to DOFGK. Doran with Oner Faker Guma Keria, how would they perform. Also on how Zeus will perform on other team
@@edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 doesnt matter if they do well in LCK or not. World is where it matters the most .
Bro the ZOFGK roaster that won worlds TWICE, TWICE BRO and now he's gone ;-; swapped with doran 💀. I shouldn't have been so emotionally attacked to the roaster.
No hate to doran but T1 for me was ZOFGK. It just feels different now.
Edit: Im a doran fan now.
Cut Doran some slack. If he didn’t sign with T1 they’d have no top laner.
@@KhaoRose True but the video suggests that the desision was very quick
@@felix.1783 Because he is the only good top laner on the market at the time, if they hesitate too long, they might lose him too, and probably will have to use an entirely new toplaner since their T1 Academy top just left also.
@@felix.1783 there's many reason why they picked, first it's already last minute before the end of of season, second because this is so late into the off season the other top laner already locked in if they don't take doran we got more worse than him like kingen, hell no they take kingen over doran although we know doran as choker of intl at least he good when it comes to regional somehow
@@Aiyuuuchiii didn't you just watched the vid? his agency is the problem not him
That's not how I wanted ZOFGK to end... If it really is all the fault of Zeus's agent, did T1 need to erase everything about Zeus so quickly? Even Rekkles, who left long ago, is still featured on their official website. T1 must be absolutely furious about Zeus.
On another note, Guma mentioned something interesting during his stream back in 2022. I'll roughly translate what he said:
"In the world of League of Legends, there should be a certain weight to things. Many young players these days make a lot of money at such a young age, but they don’t truly understand the weight of their positions. They also fail to grasp the sense of responsibility that comes with it."
When a viewer asked if he was referring to Zeus, Guma responded, "No, I’m not implying Zeus, lol."
Well well well.
i heard they responded to the criticism about removing all things related to zeus with something along the line of "we no longer have the rights to display that stuff"
Next year is going to be spicy for T1 fans
- Zeus the Traitor
- Redemption of Doran
The 6th is for doran ~ faker
How the fk is he a traitor? He just changed his team. Bro the T1 fans are fuking cooked and super toxic.
@@krishan9739They already had verbal agreement, T1 had all these plans prepared for ZOFGK, now T1 will lose millions because of him. Fans were sad that he left but now they are angry because of "how" he did it.
@@jajajiji8447 When will Keria's lux get a turn 😂
@@anaepeot nah like I dont think Zeus is the one in charge of the situation here. Zeus has a said before that he enjoys staying at T1 and from the interactions he has with the other members of OFGK you can see that his love for them is real. Yet his agent is the one in the wrong. i cant believe you finish this entire video and still think its Zeus's fault.
T1 is about to bankrupt Zeus's agency
T1 is the equivalent of Disney corporate. They have the best lawyers to find any loop hole to get a case or get out of a case.
I hope so, he only has himself to blame, leaving the team is one thing, but trying to destroy it on your way out is a whole different thing.
@@OppaiNiqqaIt was the agent, not Zeus, that did this
I've seen a lot of people say that T1 (company) is very ruthless when it comes to these kinds of situations. Can anyone tell me why?
@@N_May1 and you can say T1 is Real Madrid of esports as well!
The entire world deserves one more year of ZOFGK :/
I'm pretty hyped for DOGFK tbf
@@night_time_hero dog fk
Zeus didn’t want to leave T1, he had a verbal agreement with T1 for a 2 year deal but his corrupt agent fucked it all up. Doran kinda save T1 even tho he was not the 1st option, if T1 couldn’t sign Zeus he would be the next in line and he waited for T1. Poor Zeus tho my boy didn’t want to leave but his agent fucked it all up. Nevertheless it’s time to move on, Thank you Zeus and welcome to the team Doran! Let’s win worlds again this time with this roster and prove the haters wrong!
Zeus ultimately had the final say of whether or not he stayed with T1 though
Why are people this delusional, the player has the ultimate decision, if Zeus really wanted to stay he could've. Don't be an idiot, he wanted to leave and he left
I think the T1 organization and Zeus both did what was best for themselves. I mean his agent got him 2-3 million Euros. That's a lot of money for most of us, life changing for most and significantly more than he would've received from T1 and there was no way T1 could match that with Fakers massive contract and if they paid Zeus they would then have to pay everyone else. Besides Faker how can you differentiate everyone's worth on T1? I think most of us would always take the money first if working conditions were similar. I can't blame anyone in this situation. HIs agency did what they were suppose to do... they got him the most money out there while getting a bigger pay cheque for themselves.
I agree w others that he did have the final say, but since Zeus is so young and w how it seems like his agency blocked verbal meetings w t1, there is the possibility of manipulation/Zeus not fully understanding what was happening or what his agent was doing; especially since this seems like it would leave so much bad blood between Zeus and t1
@@LTX-v6o A one-time payment of 3 mil vs 2.6 mil + a lifetime of financial support via fans, brand, etc.. not to mention the likelihood of more trophies.
Did he _really_ do what was best for himself though..? I think his agent did what was best for himself & manipulated a kid that doesn't know any better.
if zeus really wanted to be in t1 he wouldn't let this happen tbh, times ago we knew gumayusi had to accept a salary reduction to keep greedy zeus.
The slides almost seem like he didn't want to be a part of the team anymore. It felt like his management had more weight than he did.
well HLE with him on paper looks extremely good for sure a worlds contender, include a safer contract and less pressure and hassle then being on t1 getting ddosed and trucked can't be very fun and tbh I don't think it's that surprising that he'd choose to go somewhere else.
@@bravepotatoe7513 The issue isn't him leaving. Its that he left at the last moment, leaving T1 with no opportunity to negotiate with Kiin.
@@parthagrawal3773they probably wouldnt take kiin since zeus and kiin have the same agency. 😅
@@hahayessir400They were planning on taking (or trying to at least) Kiin if they couldn’t get Zeus but with how shady they were about Zeus you may be right lol
@@bravepotatoe7513 Nah GenG roster is stronger. This was arguably the best meta for Peanut/Zeka/Delight to do well and they failed. I don't see another meta where it's just melee support tops (lane swaps prob getting nerfed), tank utility junglers, and melee mids. Also he now has more pressure because everyone wants to see him fail. Zeus is expected to win it all. He is cooked in this situation.
Now we can see finally see Doran dancing "yarre yare" with Gumayusi
I can live with Zeus going to another team by his own accord but if his agency did shady stuff just to get some extra cash, I can't accept that.
I would very much like to see Zeus back in T1, whether it's this year or the next, but I just want both sides to have no regrets.
I wish both T1 and Zeus the best and I pray they'll figure out the best path moving forward.
If T1's management can prove that Zeus' agent acted illegally and can prove Zeus was in on it, there is no way for Zeus to return to T1, especially since the rest of the team resigned quickly. And now Oner is being praised for saying in an interview that while money is important, being part of such an iconic team and especially being able to work together with Faker was super important to him. Of course, Oner's interview was shown before the news came out about Zeus' signing with HLE. It's too bad since I think Zeus will be collateral damage from his agent's greed. Fans are already turning their backs on him. I wish him good luck.
Sorry i dont see Zeus coming back even in 2026
Here the thing, all T1 former top laner never return to T1
The “Lck discount” for player who stay with team for years will have salary cap discount, but now he leave the discount being reset to zero
So if him comeback in 2026, Zues will on low salary so T1 can balance salary between 5 players since his “discount” now gone and he must stay with low salary ( compare to OFGK ) for years to get back his “discount”
Thats why i say he wont comeback, theres no way a success player like him allow himself with that such low salary, its 1 way trip to Zeus
zeus can literally sign a contract for 1 year and comeback to T1 as Doran's contract is only for a year as well
Hes saying no sane succesful top laner would. They get bonus for loyalty and being on the team. Now that hes ledt, thats been reset so he would have to rejoin with a lower salary than before. Unless he is loyal and didn't want this initially, there's no reason to reduce your income so much. @arashi_ch
for me it's completely the other way around
zeus (or any member of zofgk) leaving t1 on his own would make me hate him because it's a stupid decision
him being a victim of his agent's greed is what's bringing me peace
this also makes doran a victim so because of these news i'm willing to embrace him
idk if i wanna support hle tho i obvs want zeus to do good in lane but i dont really care about the rest of the team
They also might've told lies to Zeus regarding his new contract with T1. If Zeus wanted to stay with T1, he wouldn't have signed with another team but with a lie, that can be easily changed.
The quesion is, if he even wanted to stay with T1 in first place.
@@Ad_Dystopia that we don't know for certain, but if his agency lied about what T1 negotiated, that could influence his decision. After all, T1 is really eager to give what ZOFGK wants just for them to stay
@@Ad_Dystopia i mean if you listened throught he video - he had a verbal agreement to continue with t1 that his agents then fucked around with
I’m so sad that this is how it ends. I highly doubt Zeus wanted to leave T1
He probably did, else he would've signed T1's contract. There is no way T1 didn't want him.
@@Ad_Dystopiai wouldn't say that he did. He probably was weighing his options but the agent was clearly lying to everyone. He 100% would have waited to see what t1 had, to lay it all out on the table first.
Zeus and his agent/ the agency knew what they were doing. Too many people acting like Zeus would have 0 clue
Doran the Saviour Arc gonna be wild
son: mom can we have him speak on it here?
mom: no son, we have him speaking on it at home
him speaking on it at home:
At the end of the day, Zeus has the final word. It’s his signature that finalizes a deal. He could have chosen to stay at T1 regardless of his manger’s shady dealings/desires and he didn’t. I am sure he understands how negatively it affects T1’s brand and future plans and yet he decided to leave anyways. Unless BTS he wasn’t vibing with the rest of ZOFGK, kind of a shellfish move to his friends and team that supported him.
Yeah I feel like we’re all infantilizing Zeus in this situation. He can’t be this oblivious to just “unknowingly” sign with a team that gave him more money up front.
Yes, this is true. I think the agent had already convinced his parents before moving with this shitshow. In Korean culture, parental pressure is the real deal and don't forget he is still just 20. But overall, Zeus should have stuck to T1
@Sourabh-di5vs 'just 20' I am sympathetic to Zeus, but at 20 years old you are full ass adult. Zeus isn't a teenager.
@@doublereel-real I know but the culture diff is real. Trust me people In Korea listen to their elders/parents well in their late 20s in important decisions. I am just stating a possibility here but there might be those types of pressure on him for this decision plus the shady agency .
@@doublereel-real Zeus has been playing league since he was a kid, I doubt he's had much real world experience especially at 20 to know if hes being manipulated. Hell Mike Tyson was being manipulated into his 30s
Id lean more towards Zeus being manipulated by the agency especially considering the Kiin situation, he was probably given misleading info.
3mill for zeus new contract and 2 worlds what he wants now only chilling with high salary and new adventure for sure there is something hidden between him and T1 that no one will knows about and thats why he took the decision to leave because leaving after wining worlds is not ez decision
The video says why it happened, with T1 going to talk directly with Zeus but his agent running interference. Joe Marsh is a business man and is pretty transparent. He is speaking on the matter tomorrow. It is bad news for Zeus and whatever team he goes to if there was shady business to make this happen.
@@JustDexMakingMusic all of what was said on video is based on rumours, nothing confirmed yet, so..
@@oBarbinhawell this comment and other comments about zeus in this matter are all just speculation, so...
im not sure he is chilling when people want doran and t1 to smoke HLE in 2025. His fans are now cheering for his downfall cause of this shortsighted decision. They blocked t1 from getting kiin too.
wants to chill but goes to a contender team really bro 😂
At the end of the day, Zeus signed the paper knowing that the T1 org was willing to invest so much into his branding (and their own), longevity, and growth. He ultimately made the decision to short term profits over potential long term gains. Zeus has completely shattered all good faith and standing he has with the most successful esports org in the world. He better hope that he HLE sweeps every split and every international tourney because there isn't any coming back from this. Personally, I hope Doran and T1 absolutely dismantle HLE and the rest of the LCK next year.
Most likely coerced.
@@BrotatoVT this comment alone is the reason I think Zeus went to sign with HLE. The T1 fan base can be lunatic sometimes, he got more money, less pressure and a chance to become triple World Champion out of Faker's shadow.
Chill. You are making a lot of assumptions about people and organizations you barely know anything about. For all we know zeus might have felt forced to a decision, lied to by his management or threatened with being dropped by them should he not make a decision while being told that t1's offer was piss poor and he deserved better. These kinds of dealings have absurd amounts of politics in them and we have almost no information to make judgements upon the characters of individuals involved. Zeus will likely never return to t1 and very likely t1 will do what they can tarnish his reputation in retaliation, no matter who the real guilty party is since they cannot let such a slide go by them. But these are all speculations and guesses and we have no idea if zeus even actually made the decision or knew the full situation
The thing is HLE hasn't announced anything regarding Zeus yet, and Zeus' agent might've fucked him over with the negotiations with T1 but this is me giving him the benefit of the doubt. Zeus might've wanted to stay with T1 but his agent is trying to get more value out of him and it could've pissed T1 off and just went "fuck this shit" and signed doran immediately after his departure from HLE since they got no other options left.
yeah you right hes the one who signed
Makes the off season even more exciting. Will be interested to see the development between T1 front office and the player agency.
3:30 DRX didn’t reverse sweep t1 in 2022, the series went 1-0, 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3 DRX win.
The recent developments with Zeus and T1 are frustrating, especially considering how the situation was handled. This isn’t the first time Zeus has signed a contract, so he should be fully aware of what this time of year entails. Instead of communicating his intentions earlier, he waited until his contract expired and immediately signed elsewhere, leaving no room for discussion with T1's management.
Even if T1's higher-ups had arrived on time, it seems like his decision was already made. By waiting until the last moment, Zeus effectively backed his former team into a corner, giving them no opportunity to prepare or negotiate with other players. For example, T1 could have pursued someone like Kiin if Zeus had been upfront about his plans.
It's disappointing to see someone leave like this, especially from an organization that nurtured him and helped him grow. I had hoped they could part ways on good terms, but this just makes me feel he's ungrateful.
As a T1 fan, I’m incredibly thankful for Doran stepping in. Without him, I’m not sure who else could have filled this crucial role during such a challenging time.
Players dont get choices when they are signed with an agency. You should look up how agency works. The agency can block any deal the player make. There's nothing Zeus can do. Look at when G2 sold Perkz to C9. Perkz wanted to stay in Europe but G2 blocked it because they didnt want another LEC team to get Perkz. The player doesnt get to decide where they go. The org and agency does.
@noohkot then stop being a biased T1 fan and look how it looker in reality. T1 was late by 1 f hour (what is absurd and unprofesional and shows lack of any respect for Zeus), they came up with mediacore offer to trump it up!
They started to make merch and PR without even being top bid for Zeus. Full on lack of profesionalism.
Now they behave like a small raging baby crying around and making fuss. Sorry to say it, but T1 fucked up royally here. Its all their fault. If they would be top bid Zeus would probably take their offer (and would be even advised by his agency to take it).
They just wanted him to be the charity pick that goes for them for T1s sake and not for his own. He has limited time to play and has to make the most amount of money from it. Maybe they should have payed other player less then they could affort Zeus.
@@T0ffik1 I don’t think you follow it closely enough. T1 tried everything they can. They supposed to have a meeting but Zeus’s side canceled. And that 3pm is not scheduled. It is the time that Zeus contract expired. They have to rush there and Zeus was probably sitting in some room reading the contracts from HLE already. It would be crazy if it was not planned ahead. HLE and T1 offer the same amount FYI.
And yes, I do say I’m a T1 fan, it does not mean I will hate whoever left this team. We’ve been here long enough to see a lot of people come and go. But not like this, not the last minute bomb.
The revolving door of T1 toplaners continues. Unfortunate
this is really devastating tbh like that team was just goated and made me enjoy watching pro play i really loved waatching watching the 5 of them together
The drama is crazy I just what to hear faker’s thoughts
Sad news, but on the upside, you're getting jacked bro
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This smells like a hard conflict of interest having Kiin and Zeus be in the same agency being represented.
that isnt at all any conflict of interest. Whole world works like that. There isnt a law that prohibits an agency to have 2 players of the same type at roster. Do you think that every player from every sport belongs to different agency LMAO!? Seriously grow up man :)
The music made it way more scarier than it has to be
took me till the end of the vid to realize you were saying ZOFGK as in zeus, oner, faker, guma, and keria because im not british and not used to "Zed" for saying "Z" lol
@@bell7563 xddbriish
he's not british either lmao
Most countries with English as the first language say "zed". It's just americans trying to be different as usual.
@@samwilliams0901 Ah was only really familiar with british people using "zed"
Been a Zeus fan since he was coming up and a T1 fan ever since LCK was first announced. now that Zeus is leaving, it broke my heart. I really wanted to see ZOFGK to stay together and win another one but thank you to Zeus for serving T1 and hope to see his future endeavors but won't be rooting for him in the other team. I believe he will come back to T1 in the future.
I don't think that's going to happen....
T1 seems to have felt very angry at Zeus and his agent's move.
There are many players who have left badly in the past, but I've never seen T1 respond like this.😢
@xp8078 just the agent. Guma replied that let's see each other next year, but punished
@xp8078 that agent was trying to scam T1 and GENG. so we might see a lawsuit coming soon to sue the agent of Zeus and Kkin
We were so spoiled to see ZOFGK for three years and we knew eventually that it would end, but even if you expect it, you just don't know how to take it in honestly. Still glad to witness the legendary roster. GGWP
LOOKIN JACKED SIRRR
It is arrogant to assume all 5 players will renew contract. No team in the world should assume all of the players will sign contracts automatically.
I hate it when good things end in shadows and darkness
Love your content Rival 😊
The one at fault is the manager if all of this is true, but people are still hating on Zeus, he is just 20 years old, kids like him get trapped in shady management contracts all the time
But the agent doesn’t sign contract for the player. Its Zeus who signed the contract afterall
@@spacerice1808 T1 didn't even meet Zeus personally during the attempted resigning. His manager contacted them at 2 in the morning and did the contract without the player present.
20 yo is no longer a kid
He's a full grown adult
at the end of the day its him that signed the contract, if he wants to stay he'll stay
@@kimjessy8267 you really don't understand how predatory some managment companies are, it happens in every industry, like music or football, players get trapoed in shady contracts because of their inexperience
Doran is a great player. They may struggle adjusting again in the first quarter of 2025 but I'm sure they'll manage somehow.
Shout outs to the Shadow Temple music
doran domestically he is actually good, hope other member able to guide him towards international moment
I'd like to give Zeus the benefit of the doubt and say it's possible it's his agency that is blocking the T1 signing. Otherwise if it really is greed, it's just very unfortunate that Zeus could have that money over family philosophy.Either way no one knows the full story until it's out
His agency can't force him to sign one contract over the other. They negotiate for him, but ultimately he signed the contract based on the options he knew about. Now, could his agency have misled him into thinking T1 wasn't willing to budge on the offer he knew about from T1? Sure. Even if that was the case, again, he still chose to sign with another team for more money (and I think a longer contract).
I don't think greed is the right word. He's a professional, getting a better team on paper, a better salary, with a less toxic fandom, with a chance to win his third Worlds without Faker, something never done before.
@@codingorgaming982 they absolutely can, they can even say what team or what he wont allow him to do. You are not in the entertainment industry and you have never worked there, stfu
I don’t blame Zeus because in the end it is his still his job at the end of the day and it’s not like they’re not friends anymore just because he changed teams
@@oBarbinha HLE is not a better team on paper. HLE did not even make 1 semis last year.
I think the reason T1 is big mad is that would have most likely matched that 400k difference if they got that meeting.
They would have absolutely upped the offer even by a million. This discounting the profits of the ZOFGK merchandise and the massive popularity and audience staying in T1 would give him. This is literally shit for Zeus and his career, not that his agency cares apart from making a quick buck.
Would be both hilarious and sad if it gets out that the agency is getting paid by others to sabotage T1, because they almost leave them without a top-tier top player for this next year.
@@josef_belz519i 100% believe he was getting paid to sabotage t1 cuz this doesnt make ANY sense with all mis communication he did with them.
Will Zeus be able to come back once Doran theoretically leaves? I hope he does.
idk what they'e thinking if they DON'T re-sign him cause if anything, zeus was undeniably the fcking mvp of 2023 worlds that finally got them back into championship status again
They can't force Zeus to resign the contract.
If he left on good terms, T1 would not be this angry. They basically griefed the kiin deal, and almost got T1 to not have a top locked for next year, if doran was signed already.
Tbh the real MVP at 2023 worlds was T1 bot. Literally changed the entire meta and warped every team pick and ban.
Nah the real mvp is Guma and keria.
Well it's T1 with Faker, not to mention the rest of the team who re-signed.
If this agent is proven, oh expect him to be in prison
Let's also take into account that Zeus' parents wanted him to leave T1 last year but Oner convinced him to stay. So it could either be the agency or his parents greeding or maybe even both? We cant really say that zeus changed his mind because he was also invested in the idea that they should stick together. Add in the fact that everyone that left gave out a statement on twitter after being announced that they're leaving the team while zeus just got a post. Very suspicious indeed.
Remember Canna and Cuz? Its easy to move on after their departure.. Same goes for zeus..
You're right... times will heal us
@@gyrenrockz and Marin 😭
Zeus is different bro, T1 literally went to 3 Worlds finals, and won 2 of them ever since they got Zeus. That kind of proves that he was one of the biggest factors for T1's international wins.
@@nathan4351 since they got Zeus, Guma, Keria and Oner. That's a whole team, not just Zeus.
@@nathan4351 zeus been zeshy this regular season tho, while doran was his father
Well lets hope for a reunion in 2026... I really want to see one more year of ZOFGK 😭❤
I kinda leaning towards Zeus is actually wanted to leave T1 idea, instead of these baseless rumours.
It doesn't make any sense to me how an agent can manipulate which contract you will sign out of your own free will. If Zeus really did sign a contract with other teams, then it's his will to do it. I just felt that everyone is on denial phase about these whole situation.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a T1 fan, and has been since I first saw that Faker Ryu clip released. But it just doesn't make any sense. (I'll say it twice)
well people are saying the agency lied and Zeus hadn't actually signed anything
Because in korea people have said Agency has more power.
My understanding is Korean agencies effectively own the player and make all executive decisions. It could vary between esports and the music industry but I don't believe by mutch.
If Zeus has already accepted another contract, even if T1 goes through with the suit and successfully proves malice (or whatever Korean similar) and malpractice(?), Zeus will likely be stuck to where he signed. If everything is as you've said, this really feels like a lose-lose situation for T1 and Zeus, unless he, and his team, performs exceptionally well. I'd expect, should T1 successfully prove what they're claiming, Zeus will try to drop the agent - assuming he's given the opportunity
I love ZOFGK and T1 but we need to put respect on Doran’s name
It's interesting to me to find out how much say Zeus had in this whole ordeal, if he had a verbal agreement with T1, why would he suddenly abandon it? If he just up and did that, then it would really be him picking money over ZOFGK, but if the agent played the biggest part in this, it's just going to ruin Zeus' image. So in terms of Zeus' image it's a loose-loose no matter who played a part, since he's the one that's actually in the spotlight. If it's all just for a bigger cheque in the end, it seems extreme that his own agent would do that to him, unless they're just that greedy?
It's gonna be interesting to follow along as this all unfolds, there's so many details we're missing...
its just like marin leaving history repeat itself 😢
at least Marin told SKT early that he will not come back but Zeus griefed T1 by delaying his contract.
@@Skippppynot Zeus. The Agent
Not really because MaRin was very clear on him leaving and he left on good terms. It feels more like Canna 2.0 me with all the agency stuffs.
@@Darkstormsun9865 No, this is Zeus's fault. Blaming the agent about money when Zeus is the one who is also hard to contact/communicate with. Dude just wanted a big contract but fumbled the bag not because of his agent but because of him also.
Looks like he hit his head harder with that trophy as we thought 💀
Zeus Villian Arc confirmed.
dang its sad. knew it would happen some day but at least hoped there be a farewell family content.
Zeus is a traitor.
Im a student in law. This year im studying contract law. When i first heard about the story i was like "no zeuuus" then while watching your video i began to have like law flashbacks lmao. This my contract law exam in the end of semester about bad faith during negociations and unilateral breach of negociations. This made my Day
So this is why jayce put a hole in viktor, riot foreshadowing is crazy
1:34 had me fkn rolling, "he speaks on the re-signing here..." into the immediate "No he doesn't" text floored me man.
Insert Kylo Ren " TRAITOR" meme. Jokes aside he won worlds and successfully defend his thrown so there's nothing left for him to proof here which mean it's money time. Honestly I don't blame him and would have done the same if I were him
Yeah sure, went from receiving 2 and a half million dollars to 3 mil, all of that to leave the team that roots and built him up to be what he is right now, if that was his decision it's very poor to say the least, if it's the agency being greedy then I can't on good faith blame him.
Regardless, it's not like he wasn't receiving well at T1, you guys talk in a way that it seems Zeus had 20 bucks a month or something. He's already rich bro.
griefing your old team though by delaying your decision and then suddenly signing after your counterpart Kiin gets signed so T1 top lane roster gets left to the wolves is fucked. Given that he was just a CL player in T1, that t1 built to be a world champ.
Except T1 is the money machine. You will be set for life just like bang and wolf
He makes more money just by existing in t1. Even if he played like shit the whole year the money generated from t1 brand is already more than enough
@@Alexandre-gg7qd its LOL esport, he has very limited time. So its a huge chance in pay. few years of extra 0,4/5 mil is a fucking LOT (and its said T1 didnt want to refresh his worth every year - whats a huge bad deal for him). and he isnt there co charity T1 for inferior pay.
You guys are too naive if you fully believe this from korean forums about agent disagreements between T1 and Zeus holy we cannot think
Men, Back dealings is really hard from fans view point.
You cant see the full picture, only crumbs of truth but also lies.
Doran bailed out T1 by accepting. He doesent deserve the upcoming hate. Zeus' Agent played hardball and screwed people over.
Sign "the shy"
So basically a young top player is being played by malicious agents that he trust. Typical.
Quite sad honestly
Doran said back then to his fans to just hold on even when there's criticisms, he'll prove he's worthy for the position. Has a big shoes to fill but let's support him. There's a chance he'll grow into a great part of the team through effort and passion
Zeus and Doran really were like "Swap? Swap!" this will be an interesting season.
Can we point out how fucking jacked Rival is?
Great video, but man that background music. There is a buzzing sound that you can hear with headphones that is just destroying my brain.
somewhere around 7:10 min i can clearly hear the ocarina of time ost love to see it
Both are Zelda songs, MM Gerudo Pirates and OoT Shadow Temple 🙂↕️
With this roster change, T1 is now buffed domestically, but nerfed internationally.
I hope T1 and Faker can help and guide Doran maintain his composure.
People hating on Zeus for not staying in T1 are seriously so incredibly deadbrain, so everyone can leave their team but T1 members? they are still a company, everything that starts will come to an end, Messi Suarez and Neymar also parted ways in their moment, it's his life
@@urgotbostero dude, as a Brazilian and Barça Fan, it's sad that Neymar left the best attack trio ever to lose his career in PSG, but he's a favela boy, more money to his family and a chance to win UCL without Messi's shadow, just like Zeus here with Faker. Let's see if it pays off.
griefing your old team though by delaying your decision and then suddenly signing after your counterpart Kiin gets signed so T1 top lane roster gets left to the wolves is fucked. Given that he was just a CL player in T1, that t1 built to be a world champ.
@@Adp32306 all of that was on the hands of the manager company, not Zeus
@@Adp32306 What's appearing to be true is that it's the agency fault and Zeus was caught in the middle of these shenanigans. Apart from that, he can choose whatever team he wants, he's a pro, there is no loyalty for life in sports or eSports, Faker is a rare breed.
@@urgotbostero you shouldnt even make that MSN reference neymar literally throw his career at psg absolute waste of prime years
I didn’t know it was so messed up. Could Zeus ultimately refuse Hanwa offer and stay with t1?
If the theory that Zeus hasnt signed currently yes, but I don't think t1 wants him back.
He could have if he was willing to do it I guess but too late now.
What controversy? Zeus got an offer for a good salary with a good contract length with hle and t1 didnt want to match/exceed it. He went with whats best for his situation, t1 will carry on and so will he. Alot of the players between teams still have alot of respect and like eachother so i dont think hes suddenly gonna be hated and im excited to see the future of both him and doran. alot of people want to see drama and try to realize it irl. Lets not bring that energy to life, unless the people involved choose to. Will be happy to see how everyone performs next split 🎉
NOTICE: this opinion is my thoughts of the situation of known info. IF it comes out that the rumors of his agency making some legally questionable moves then my view will change
@@privateholt464the problem is that he didn’t leave on good terms. What Zeus manager did was from what I at least have heard, hiding contract details so he won’t resign. Also they didn’t inform the org till the last moment that he was leaving, so t1 wasn’t prepared to look for a new top. If they were informed in proper time they could have singed kiin etc. if it wasn’t for Dorian t1 would have to sign a rookie top. So what happened was shady af. Also t1 is the most profitable org in the world, players earn a lot of money apart from their contracts (merch sales, sponsors etc etc). From what I know, the manager of Zeus doesn’t get paid from these, she only gets paid from resignings and the monthly salary. So financially speaking, Zeus staying at t1 was a better option even for less money per year, but for his manager it was the best option to sign him elsewhere
"Known" information when it's absolutely incorrect. T1 WANTED to do anything to keep Zeus. They definitely would have upped the offer but the Agency didn't give them a chance. Thats the whole point. The Agency screwing over t1 from getting Zeus on purpose. T1 was going to meet with him in person but the Agency told T1 Zeus had already signed and didn't allow the meeting. Which other sources say Zeus did not sign with any team at that point.
The thing no one is talking about, is the agent not only screwed T1, OFGK and Zeus, but they also screwed Kiin. With T1 and OFGK we all know how they screwed them, but Zeus reputation took a big hit. He basically had a guaranteed career with T1, and they wouldve payed good money to keep him with them. Now hes basically black listed and they probably wont want to take him ever again. And not only that, but they basically rushed Kiin to resign with Geng, lowering his market value. I know he probably already wanted to resign, but T1 being ready to make offers if Zeus didnt resign wouldve made Geng offer him a better deal. So they just screwed him, T1, Zeus, OFGK, and Doran, my guy, who now has to take the hate from angry fans for not being Zeus. Really hope he can have a good redemption arc and shut up all his doubters.
There’s no fucking controversy other than weirdos who care too much about people they don’t know and have never met. Zeus went with the deal he thought was best for him and I’m proud.
Its not about zeus wanted to leave, if he want to leave he should have said so at the beginning so t1 can replace with Kiin but they doing some shaddy busssiness to try get more money and signing for other team anyway. Its almost fucked t1 cause Kiin already resign, after what they been throught its so ungrateful.
@ wow so you’re telling me an agent was doing everything that would be expected of an agent. Again there’s no controversy here but people are gonna buy those dumb fuck trucks again and make something out of nothing.
@@rjs9228expected of an Agent? By almost illegally denying a player his options and intentionally miscommunicating? Why do you think t1 themselves are so pissed and wants to sue the Agency? Yes people are so invested in this because we want to see them win worlds again. DUH!
@ he didn’t act illegally though, and for the moment these are primarily unsourced allegations. Was the agent scummy as fuck in his conduct? Yes absolutely. Did he maximize Zeus’ payout and therefor his payout? Also yes. But as of right now he’s done nothing illegal. He’s just kind of an asshole.
I do hope he'll perform well on HLE, quite excited to see him facing LPL teams without Faker factor.