Yeah, it's insane how the creator of something as perfect as All-star Batman could also be responsible for something as bad as Dark Knight Returns. I mean, DKR is literally just a rip-off of Zach Snyder's objective masterpiece, Batman V Superman, and Miller should be ashamed.
NGL the Dark Knight Returns is pretty overrated. I’m not saying there’s nothing to appreciate, but I definitely think it’s overhyped for a minimally decent elseworlds story. Also most of the stuff Frank Miller has done since then has objectively sucked.
@Some Guy I've read it multiple times and its a decent at best Elseworlds story that's the embodiment of "Edgy" for its own sake. Don't even get me started on the sequel.
@@danieladams5132 You *BASTARD! You FORGOT* the seemingly *RANDOM* emphasis on *WORDS* that aren't even in the *RIGHT* order or *RYTHM* to mimic *THE* emphasis of *HUMAN SPEECH* ! What are you *DENSE* ?
This was frank miller teaching us two things: 1) no matter what he writes, people will buy it 2) the writing matters a LOT in any comic, even if the art is awesome
My guess is that jim walked into franks house, tells him that people are blaming him, and Frank smashed a bottle of alcohol and threatened jim to blame himself.
Thanks man! I feel like there's so much in here, and it's so raw and unapologetic. It's like watching The Room. Eventually, you're not watching a bad movie. You're watching one man's interpretation of events in his life. And it goes from hilarious to sad. And hilarious.
i agree this series was horrible my god Frank miller can't write batman anymore anyways good review guys and i am hoping if we can do a team up video someday on my channel if you want too anyways good video TV Little House Comics and i hope you guys have a good day and take care guys
Wait so young Robin is locked in the batcave with this psychopath version of batman...gets Stockholm syndrome..and becomes a psychopath himself..Jesus this is like the room of comics for sure
Would have love to seen their reaction of some of the creepy horrible dialogue like in issue with green lantern where batman says and I quote "fast my little robin, fast hands big mouth." That is just one of the just wtf lines in the comic.
When I first started reading comics, I was 12. I saw this trade at the store and instantly was attracted. I was like "Wow! Jim Lee and Frank Miller? I love those guys! This will be great!" 12 year old me was shocked to read this. It was insane.
This series had the most WTFs moments of all the comics I have read, but once I stopped taking it seriously, it became a decent comedy. At least Scott Snyder is going to redeem the 'All Star' name.
I own every issue of this series and as balls to the walls crazy Miller's writing is, I wouldn't change a thing about it. It's just one of those things that are so bad that it becomes good. Goddamn great episode guys.
I know this book is batshit crazy but I can't help loving it as a guilty pleasure, I'd love to see them finish it, just to see what crazy ending Miller would come up with
Great episode guys. I love it when Ben or Ethan questions an apparent continuity error and Sal just pauses, offering no explanation whatsoever. Ben - "Isn't Vicki Vale a blonde?" Sal - "Yes, well now she's a redhead..."
It's really sad how off the rails Frank Miller has gone. I knew he was nuts but i had no idea how batshit he really was. I just finished reading Daredevil Born Again. It was one of the best stories i've ever read. He use to be great.
It's so frustrating because in the 80s and 90s, he was such a talent to the industry. His art for wolverine was great, TDK is a stone cold batman classic and year 1 is fucking great. Its just such a damn shame that he just went downhill and started writing the most inane knuckle dragging right-wing shit
I met Frank last August and he was an awesome guy, really loves his fans. I got the opportunity to sit down pretty much 5 five feet from him at an interview/podcast in Hollywood, he was able to sign a couple of my All Star Batman issues before he left. I love this book and even enjoy Strikes Again, always been a fan of his.
+Grey Ghost 615 Please tell me this is a reference to Bruce Wayne's childhood hero, "The Grey Ghost". (I would assume so, but I'm thrown off by the awesome Pac-Man ghost.)
2 guys in a coffe shop- rob isn't that the fifth time the batmobile appears across the street?-yes ben it is...and isn't the boy inside the batmobile the one in the milk boxes?
javier solarte Guy 1: Should we call someone? I get the feeling that we're aiding and abetting by NOT trying to stop this. Guy 2: He has an army of bats that, at his command, will attack anyone he wishes...I think I'm gonna sit this one out.
Well done guys, this might be the most quotable episode of Back Issues. This are my two favorites: " Because he's a man-child who really needs the attention and affection a 12 year-old child"- Sal. " I should be asking you that Frank Miller, are you dense, are you retarded Frank Miller for writing Batman like this"- Ethan.
Been following this channel for a few years now and every time I go back to rewatch an episode I get excited seeing how many more views they have now! Speaks to the quality and consistency of your guys' content that old episodes are getting new views and I love seeing your success :)
Definitely my favorite episode of Back Issues thus far. I love how into it you all get whenever something big happens like The Goddamn Batman line or when Batman talks about how HE had to eat rats after a tragedy in his life. Great Job (:.
Just wanted to thank all three of you for helping me get back into comics. This episode was on of my favs, and I've watched almost every one. Tiffany's show was awesome too and hope she don't hate old video games now. A TV Little House event of Maximum Carnage on back issues and the Sega Genesis game of the same name on bonus round would be god tier.
6 years later and its still the funniest ever back issues 😂 tied with year one, some others have single funnier jokes or moments but this one is overall cracks ne up 😂😂
In my mind, this was Frank Miller's response to criticism: "Whateva, I do what I want!" or alternatively: "Whateva, I'm Frank Miller, I write what I want!" ala Eric Cartman on Jerry Springer. Hilarious to my demented mind.
He might as well just say "I'm the goddamn Frank Miller". Yes, I just made a painfully obvious joke, but let's face it: you already made it in your head.
+crunson2000 People love this book because they "respect Frank Miller having the balls to piss off his fans." But, why would you respect a guy like that? It's one thing to do something controversial for the sake of telling a good story, but then there's just doing something controversial because you "can". I know, "that's the point". It's parody, I get it. But it isn't well written parody, and this is supposed to be in the same universe as Year One and Dark Knight Returns. The characters are completely different in this book, and it just comes off as bad writing. I still wouldn't like it, but this book wouldn't bother me as much if it was it's own thing and wasn't supposed to be in the same universe and Year One. I will always respect Frank Miller for Year One, Dark Knight Returns and his amazing run on Daredevil. But that doesn't mean I have to be a blind fanboy that loves everything the guy does. I get that the purpose of this story is "commentary" on the popularity of Batman, but it isn't GOOD commentary, that's the problem.
+Mika Michael Joseph Willem Henri That's basically what everyone (including me, and the ComicPOP folks) already said. Why did you respond to my comment as though you were disagreeing with me?
So I was thinking. I wish DC would release a comedy line in which it plays completely serious, but everything is a joke. Batman is exactly as he is in this book and he truly DOESN'T understand how Hal's powers work. And then each of the other major DC characters has some horrible quirk.
Superman is afraid of heights. Green Lantern is colourblind. Flash gets motion sickness. Aquaman has Hydrophobia. Wonder Woman doesn’t realise how the modern world works and keeps trying to execute criminals in accordance with Ancient Greek law
This was the comic series that made me give up on Batman until Court of Owls. BTW, the shirt I ordered from your store came in the mail yesterday, really nice quality material and printing.
Interesting fact about that scene with viki vale, the script for the scene, written by Frank says and I quote "okay jim, I'm shameless, make the readers druel
I really want to believe that Frank Miller was aware of how insanely crazy Batman is in this book. Like he purposely made Batman this unloveable psycho to poke fun of how ridiculous Batman has become since he debuted the Dark Knight. But then, I read the rest of the book and no...it's just a bad book. I own it just so I can flip through the artwork from time to time.
TV Little House Comics It's so frustrating because his Dardevil: Man Without Fear and Dark Knight Returns are still books I enjoy. And I was one of those guys that was like "Oh, All Star Superman was amazing, this art is beautiful and I know Frank Miller can writer cool stuff....oh, oh god!"
Wild thought: What if this book is REALLY an illustration of a series of brainwashing treatments The Joker administered to Dick Grayson over an X number of years that turned Dick Grayson into "The Joker-clone that we saw in Dark Knight II?" After all, Sal, you said that all of the Miller "Batman Stories" are in the same continuity, so it's possible that this was a distorted re-telling with a Batman who does what The Joker would have done if HE were Batman (his determination to lamely impress Dick Grayson with his "Are you lame? I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN!" line as well as his needless hounding of Hal Jordan/Green Lantern and Batman's "inexplicable need to laugh" when he breaks the law!). At least that would justify Miller's need to ruin Batman: Year Two along with DK Two. Just a thought....
But the way he handled it ruined it. The change after year one was so sudden it was unbelievable. In year one batman was nothing like this. It would've made sense if there was better context other than "pressure"
Naw Frank Miller was always trash. He just got lucky. DKR is a horrible understanding of Batman. But it was a refreshing take on Batman for it's time. Edgy/Anti-Hero Batman is the norm now so it doesn't hold up.
these shows have been so freaking invaluable to me. thanks so much guys. i've been able to catch up on years comics to have actual relevant conversations with my comic book friends. i watch at least two episodes a day, and have repeated quite a few. keep up the awesome work guys.
Gotta love those formative multi-hour car drives around the city so your local psychic milk delivery service get a kidnapped child's face on the next morning's milk cartons.
There's a Kevin Smith show how Jerry Robinson - who claims to have created the Joker and had a strong influence on Robin - had plans and drawings about the clown at the circus being a boss-man and causing the Grayson's murder instead of Boss Zucco. Thanks for explaining alot of things I didn't get. I guess it was better than I thought.
that's because he's not Batman he's actually a crazy hobo named Steve who found a Batman costume and won the lottery, becoming inspired to be Batman. all fear Crazy Steve
Actually the whole Yellow impurity was fixed in Green Lantern Rebirth, where it was retconned that the central power battery was the prison for Parallax and his influence made the rings weak against Yellow
The series was a hot mess yet as a reader you kept coming back BECAUSE it was ahot mess and you wanted to see what happened next, like to see who else could Miller fuck with even more.
joe mcnoe i thought this was an actual thing all the way until I saw “social justice league,” because everything before that is just crazy enough to exist, but there’s no way any writer’s self-parodying to do SJL
Someone should retcon this story by having that 5th dimensional leprechaun villain from Superman appear. It turns out the little guy was behind this story, mucking up reality because he got tired of losing to Superman. Batman was just practice. And this story never finishes because the leprechaun is confronted by Bat-Mite, who wants to put things back the way they were. That story could begin with the very last page of this story. That would make it a brief, fun filler story.
I have finally* caught up to the latest episode of Back Issues! The asterisk is because I found this channel four days ago and have binged this series since Monday. It's pretty great. Anyway, I know Sal is not big on X-Men, but I would love to see a treatment of the big events like the Dark Phoenix Saga, Fatal Attractions, the Mutant Massacre, X-Cutioner's Song, because they're so iconic, and Fall of the Mutants and the Onslaught Saga, because they're so dumb and I want to see them ripped apart.
You guys should do something involving Daredevil because of his show coming out. Born Again is great and Frank Miller wrote it before he went absolutely insane.
Idk I think this series has a lot of cool moments! It’s story has a lot of great moments and,of course,spectacular art. It does have a super crazy Batman but I think that’s actually refreshing and different! I think the main problem is that the series was never finished so you have no ending.
ComicPOP! Over the past few days I've watched a bunch of your videos. Seriously love the discussions. Very in depth, easy going, well-spoken and very instructive for me cause I'm fairly new to reading comics. Keep up the great work guys!
Oh my god, I got myself a scotch and furiously fiddled with my balls in anticipation of your next video! A bit crass, I know, but it's one of my favorite lines from Bulletstorm and is the only thing that came close to depicting my anxiousness.
If this is supposed to be set in the same universe as Year One then Batman must’ve been hit by something that completely changed his personality. In Year One he’s violent, but not sadistic. He goes out of his way to help civilians caught up in his battles, and gets enraged when a bunch of corrupt cops try to take him out and go overboard when there’s civilians around, but he doesn’t kill them. He goes from helping save an old lady and saving Gordon’s son unmasked to recklessly mowing down cops, nearly killing Vicki Vale due to his recklessness, and kidnapping a kid and psychologically and physically torturing him. It’s like someone hit him with a Bizarro ray or something. And in DKR you get the sense Batman and Superman were at one point friendly and that they worked together, but in this book Batman is an asshole to Superman and blackmails him into doing what he wants. Frank Miller had no idea what he was doing with this book. It’s such a shame, because All Star Superman is amazing and this should’ve been amazing, but then Frank Miller decided to go all batshit crazy.
Big fan of your videos, but something just struck me. It would be really cool if we could get a few more screen shots from the comics during the discussions. I would have loved to of seen that drafted scene. Idk if you have the rights or what not, just a suggestion.
I mean I love Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns and his Daredevil stuff, but yeah the writing in All Star Batman and Robin was sub par BUT it’s still so worth it for the Jim Lee art. I’d love him to pair up with Grant Morrison if he hasn’t already
It's like joker and batman's personalities switched. Batman is a violent laughing psychopath that blows up cops, burns criminals alive, and kidnaps people and forces them to work for him. While joker doesn't even smile and says he's not funny.
Frank was probably in the back office snorting coke and thinking batman must do this then that Jim will be the person who takes the blame and just goes crazy with drugs
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It's truly fascinating how someone can be responsible for the best and worst batman stories simultaneously
Yeah, it's insane how the creator of something as perfect as All-star Batman could also be responsible for something as bad as Dark Knight Returns. I mean, DKR is literally just a rip-off of Zach Snyder's objective masterpiece, Batman V Superman, and Miller should be ashamed.
NGL the Dark Knight Returns is pretty overrated. I’m not saying there’s nothing to appreciate, but I definitely think it’s overhyped for a minimally decent elseworlds story. Also most of the stuff Frank Miller has done since then has objectively sucked.
@Some Guy I've read it multiple times and its a decent at best Elseworlds story that's the embodiment of "Edgy" for its own sake. Don't even get me started on the sequel.
@@thedukeofchutney468 I agree. Year One is 100 times better.
He essentially made both the Citizen Kane and The Room of Batman.
That's a lot of missiles for someone who doesn't kill people...
~Ethan
Tim Jones Best quote yet.
Yes it is
Ah, that classic comic "All-Star Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson, Age 12."
Goddamn yes
I see you're stacking that candy in an angry way
Linkara = dad
@@danieladams5132 You *BASTARD! You FORGOT* the seemingly *RANDOM* emphasis on *WORDS* that aren't even in the *RIGHT* order or *RYTHM* to mimic *THE* emphasis of *HUMAN SPEECH* ! What are you *DENSE* ?
@@danieladams5132 Do you love being the Goddamn Batman?
This was frank miller teaching us two things:
1) no matter what he writes, people will buy it
2) the writing matters a LOT in any comic, even if the art is awesome
My guess is that jim walked into franks house, tells him that people are blaming him, and Frank smashed a bottle of alcohol and threatened jim to blame himself.
Frank's house. Jim's office. Starbucks. I see a broken bottle in Frank's hand pretty much anytime.
thatHARVguy relaxing in a bath. Returning a library book. Delivering a baby. Yeah anytime
If he spent more time writing the book than he did threatening people, it would’ve come out in time.
13:00 "I'm the Goddamn Batman!" 😈
23:30 Batcave epic fold-out! 😎
57:55 Black Canary boinks the Batman. 😍
I'm loving this interpretation of All Star Batman & Robin being about Frank Miller himself.
Thanks man! I feel like there's so much in here, and it's so raw and unapologetic. It's like watching The Room. Eventually, you're not watching a bad movie. You're watching one man's interpretation of events in his life. And it goes from hilarious to sad. And hilarious.
The Room of Batman I like that a lot too
i agree this series was horrible my god Frank miller can't write batman anymore anyways good review guys and i am hoping if we can do a team up video someday on my channel if you want too anyways good video TV Little House Comics and i hope you guys have a good day and take care guys
+TheDVDGrouch When can we expect a comicbookcast review of All Star Batman and Robin lol I would love to see that
+Devon Pohl is that actually true?
As Linkara put it, this isn't Batman. This is crazy Steve the hobo who just happened to find the batsuit and put it on.
yea the adventures of crazy steve (batman) and bonkors betty (wonder woman)
All Star Crazy Steve and Dick Grayson, Age 12
@@nicwaterfill2259 Even when Divk is Nightwing, He's Still Dick Grayson, Age 12 to Miller.
Hello there.
No he is Batman he’s insistent on it didn’t you hear him
HE’S THE GODAMN BATMAN
Put "I'm the goddamn Frank Miller" on a T-shirt
Vikram Wood Not a bad idea...
Wait so young Robin is locked in the batcave with this psychopath version of batman...gets Stockholm syndrome..and becomes a psychopath himself..Jesus this is like the room of comics for sure
Now you have to do Holy Terror to show the guys how crazy Frank Miller really got.
b1merio Oh no I don't! And thankfully, it's not a Batman book anymore. God, I forgot about that...
TV Little House Comics b1merio what's this now?
Did Frank Miller became the Charlie Sheen of comic books?
+b1merio You can still watch Linkara's Review of Holy Terror. It's like an hour and a half long though.
I think Charlie Sheen became the Frank Miller of people
42:50 " batman has safe houses every were probably on the moon" action comics rebirth established batman has a bat age on the moon😂😂😂😂
Would have love to seen their reaction of some of the creepy horrible dialogue like in issue with green lantern where batman says and I quote "fast my little robin, fast hands big mouth." That is just one of the just wtf lines in the comic.
“STOP TALKING!”
When I first started reading comics, I was 12. I saw this trade at the store and instantly was attracted. I was like "Wow! Jim Lee and Frank Miller? I love those guys! This will be great!" 12 year old me was shocked to read this. It was insane.
This series had the most WTFs moments of all the comics I have read, but once I stopped taking it seriously, it became a decent comedy. At least Scott Snyder is going to redeem the 'All Star' name.
This is the greatest thing Comic Pop has ever done. I keep getting dirty looks because I am laughing so much.
Jeremy Johnson Ha! Thanks Jeremy!
I own every issue of this series and as balls to the walls crazy Miller's writing is, I wouldn't change a thing about it. It's just one of those things that are so bad that it becomes good. Goddamn great episode guys.
***** Thanks Jeff!
Jeff Batista Truly “the Room” Of Batman Comics.
This book is like a car crash, yes it's terrible, horrible, scary, and violent. But you can't look away
I agree wholeheartedly. It’s so-bad-it’s-funny writing and legitimately great artwork make it something of a wonderful experience.
I know this book is batshit crazy but I can't help loving it as a guilty pleasure, I'd love to see them finish it, just to see what crazy ending Miller would come up with
Testtube27 It had been some time since I read them for fun, but I used to, as well.
next video, ethan should introduce himself as "I'M THE GODDAMN ETHAN"
mysticalredbeanie Agreed.
i am genuinely upset that this book is not called the goddam batman and robin the boy wonder
Sam brunzell Seriously. At least in the Absolute edition.
frank miller just went insane after writing sin city
this review was hilarious
ethans reactions are priceless
IamMedellinInc sin city ruined him
Just like it ruins all who are unfortunate enough to wander through its diseased streets...
Josh Pecker q
I feel like Frank was always nuts. It just took us a while to figure it out
I'm convinced after reading a couple issues of this that Batman is the long lost cousin of the Ultimate Warrior. Just what the heck?
"One more stop for love!"
Great episode guys. I love it when Ben or Ethan questions an apparent continuity error and Sal just pauses, offering no explanation whatsoever. Ben - "Isn't Vicki Vale a blonde?" Sal - "Yes, well now she's a redhead..."
James Andresen Well sometimes that's just how it is!
So glad you guys were able to fix the audio.
I got sad imagining that the episode was going to be lost to time.
Mago. D Snowman Thanks Mago! Trust me, I was devastated.
At least it sounded funny.
Laughed so hard for some reason at "traumatized little acrobat boy" when i hear it like that it feels like a madlib of create a superhero
It's really sad how off the rails Frank Miller has gone. I knew he was nuts but i had no idea how batshit he really was. I just finished reading Daredevil Born Again. It was one of the best stories i've ever read. He use to be great.
It's so frustrating because in the 80s and 90s, he was such a talent to the industry. His art for wolverine was great, TDK is a stone cold batman classic and year 1 is fucking great. Its just such a damn shame that he just went downhill and started writing the most inane knuckle dragging right-wing shit
This sounds like Deadpool made this and not Frank Miller lol.
Nah, not enough 4th-wall breaks. 😜
I met Frank last August and he was an awesome guy, really loves his fans. I got the opportunity to sit down pretty much 5 five feet from him at an interview/podcast in Hollywood, he was able to sign a couple of my All Star Batman issues before he left. I love this book and even enjoy Strikes Again, always been a fan of his.
That is goddamn awesome!
Likes this book WHAT A UNPOPULAR OPPINION
+Whos Nick
As much as I disagree with you, I respect your opinion.
Wow, Frank Miller truly became the George Lucas of comics.
+Grey Ghost 615 Please tell me this is a reference to Bruce Wayne's childhood hero, "The Grey Ghost". (I would assume so, but I'm thrown off by the awesome Pac-Man ghost.)
Damn.
Eh, I'll still give you half credit, for making me think of it, plus you at least get the reference.
Hey let's not go that far George has more talent then this
***** to be fair at no point did George make Jones kidnap children or have anakin call someone retarded
***** yeah but really the special additions are at worst annoying and at best pointless this is just downright awful
so...they need a car, a plane and a submarine to get in the batcave... so in this continuity the batcave is in brazil right???
javier solarte Or he was just driving around the block for a day!
2 guys in a coffe shop- rob isn't that the fifth time the batmobile appears across the street?-yes ben it is...and isn't the boy inside the batmobile the one in the milk boxes?
javier solarte Guy 1: Should we call someone? I get the feeling that we're aiding and abetting by NOT trying to stop this.
Guy 2: He has an army of bats that, at his command, will attack anyone he wishes...I think I'm gonna sit this one out.
Don't forget that they were driving for like a full day.
@@comicpop i like to think they were just going around in circles for afew hours
Well done guys, this might be the most quotable episode of Back Issues. This are my two favorites: " Because he's a man-child who really needs the attention and affection a 12 year-old child"- Sal. " I should be asking you that Frank Miller, are you dense, are you retarded Frank Miller for writing Batman like this"- Ethan.
Crimsonknight700 lol Thank you!
I've rewatched this episode so many times lol. One of my favorites.
Jake Stanley Same
Been following this channel for a few years now and every time I go back to rewatch an episode I get excited seeing how many more views they have now! Speaks to the quality and consistency of your guys' content that old episodes are getting new views and I love seeing your success :)
this is one of the best worst comic series I've ever read. it's like 'The Room' of comics.
Its hilarious.
John Moya so true!
YOU’RE TEARING ME APART MILLER!
That's why I love it.
I could not agree with you more man it definitely and it’s definitely in that mark of so bad it’s hilarious
Definitely my favorite episode of Back Issues thus far. I love how into it you all get whenever something big happens like The Goddamn Batman line or when Batman talks about how HE had to eat rats after a tragedy in his life. Great Job (:.
Just wanted to thank all three of you for helping me get back into comics. This episode was on of my favs, and I've watched almost every one. Tiffany's show was awesome too and hope she don't hate old video games now.
A TV Little House event of Maximum Carnage on back issues and the Sega Genesis game of the same name on bonus round would be god tier.
Thank you so much! I'm so glad you're getting back into the comics pool! I love your idea of a Maximum Carnage special, btw. Gonna work on that...
This has to be at LEAST the 53rd time I've watched this episode.
THIS IS THE GREATEST GODDAMN EPISODE OF GODDAMN BAT-ISSUES EVER!
Will Hensley Goddamn right!
You guys went crazy deep into frank millar's mind with this one. Awesome XD
Brandon Lopez It's hard not to! It's like The Room of comics.
6 years later and its still the funniest ever back issues 😂 tied with year one, some others have single funnier jokes or moments but this one is overall cracks ne up 😂😂
In my mind, this was Frank Miller's response to criticism: "Whateva, I do what I want!" or alternatively: "Whateva, I'm Frank Miller, I write what I want!" ala Eric Cartman on Jerry Springer. Hilarious to my demented mind.
He might as well just say "I'm the goddamn Frank Miller".
Yes, I just made a painfully obvious joke, but let's face it: you already made it in your head.
+crunson2000 People love this book because they "respect Frank Miller having the
balls to piss off his fans." But, why would you respect a guy like that?
It's one thing to do something controversial for the sake of telling a
good story, but then there's just doing something controversial because
you "can". I know, "that's the point". It's parody, I get it. But it
isn't well written parody, and this is supposed to be in the same
universe as Year One and Dark Knight Returns. The characters are
completely different in this book, and it just comes off as bad writing.
I still wouldn't like it, but this book wouldn't bother me as much if
it was it's own thing and wasn't supposed to be in the same universe and
Year One. I will always respect Frank Miller for Year One, Dark Knight
Returns and his amazing run on Daredevil. But that doesn't mean I have
to be a blind fanboy that loves everything the guy does. I get that the
purpose of this story is "commentary" on the popularity of Batman, but
it isn't GOOD commentary, that's the problem.
+Mika Michael Joseph Willem Henri That's basically what everyone (including me, and the ComicPOP folks) already said. Why did you respond to my comment as though you were disagreeing with me?
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So I was thinking. I wish DC would release a comedy line in which it plays completely serious, but everything is a joke. Batman is exactly as he is in this book and he truly DOESN'T understand how Hal's powers work. And then each of the other major DC characters has some horrible quirk.
Buddy this is sounding dangerously like Marville...
Superman is afraid of heights.
Green Lantern is colourblind.
Flash gets motion sickness.
Aquaman has Hydrophobia.
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@@scottishjedi1522 make Flash have Asthma
Robin is an actual bird that Bruce throws at people
Over 100, 000 views, folks! THEIR TIME HAS COME!
This is still my favorite batman story you guys read over till this day
Watched this one over 100 times in a year. Very much one of my top 3 favorites. Most entertaining backissues
This was the comic series that made me give up on Batman until Court of Owls. BTW, the shirt I ordered from your store came in the mail yesterday, really nice quality material and printing.
slayerking88 Yeah holy crap is CoO awesome.
slayerking88 I don't know if you have, but it seems you might have skipped on Grant Morrison's Batman saga, if you have give it a try sometime.
Interesting fact about that scene with viki vale, the script for the scene, written by Frank says and I quote "okay jim, I'm shameless, make the readers druel
I really want to believe that Frank Miller was aware of how insanely crazy Batman is in this book. Like he purposely made Batman this unloveable psycho to poke fun of how ridiculous Batman has become since he debuted the Dark Knight.
But then, I read the rest of the book and no...it's just a bad book. I own it just so I can flip through the artwork from time to time.
SparkyPantsMcGee Exactly! I've looked at this from so many angles, and changed perspectives over the years, only to end up right back where I started.
TV Little House Comics
It's so frustrating because his Dardevil: Man Without Fear and Dark Knight Returns are still books I enjoy.
And I was one of those guys that was like "Oh, All Star Superman was amazing, this art is beautiful and I know Frank Miller can writer cool stuff....oh, oh god!"
I've probably watched this back issues like 5-6 times. Love it!
Ben and Ethan's reactions to the goddamn Batman line are amazing. Thank you guys so much for doing this book. :D
Tristan Lipton Our pleasure! Thanks Tristan ;)
Wild thought: What if this book is REALLY an illustration of a series of brainwashing treatments The Joker administered to Dick Grayson over an X number of years that turned Dick Grayson into "The Joker-clone that we saw in Dark Knight II?" After all, Sal, you said that all of the Miller "Batman Stories" are in the same continuity, so it's possible that this was a distorted re-telling with a Batman who does what The Joker would have done if HE were Batman (his determination to lamely impress Dick Grayson with his "Are you lame? I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN!" line as well as his needless hounding of Hal Jordan/Green Lantern and Batman's "inexplicable need to laugh" when he breaks the law!). At least that would justify Miller's need to ruin Batman: Year Two along with DK Two. Just a thought....
That's how I always felt about this
Kobe Walsh Then you came to this conclusion far sooner than I did. I'm impressed!
I kind of hoped that this was a series of delusions Batman had in the Court of Owl's maze.
Caitlin Brewer Then why was Robin being victimized by Batman? Wouldn't Batman be the one mentally tortured by what was happening if he was the victim?
But the way he handled it ruined it. The change after year one was so sudden it was unbelievable. In year one batman was nothing like this. It would've made sense if there was better context other than "pressure"
Frank Miller had some real gems like Batman year One and The Dark Knight Returns but when he got older it's like he lost his mind !
I mean, you can go back and read Year One and the dialogue is still weird and janky. Also Sin City was a trash fire
Naw Frank Miller was always trash. He just got lucky. DKR is a horrible understanding of Batman. But it was a refreshing take on Batman for it's time. Edgy/Anti-Hero Batman is the norm now so it doesn't hold up.
I can die in peace now that you've done this
these shows have been so freaking invaluable to me. thanks so much guys. i've been able to catch up on years comics to have actual relevant conversations with my comic book friends. i watch at least two episodes a day, and have repeated quite a few. keep up the awesome work guys.
Gotta love those formative multi-hour car drives around the city so your local psychic milk delivery service get a kidnapped child's face on the next morning's milk cartons.
When I saw the goddamn Batman meme, I had always assumed that it was a comic panel that had been edited...
+Justin Weinblatt I wish, man.
This is my fav Back Issues. So hilarious
great show Sal, Ethan and Ben. thank you
Devina Mendez Anytime, Devina!
thanks for watching!
Everything about this run just SCREAMS excess in absurd quantity and im all here for it😂😂
There's a Kevin Smith show how Jerry Robinson - who claims to have created the Joker and had a strong influence on Robin - had plans and drawings about the clown at the circus being a boss-man and causing the Grayson's murder instead of Boss Zucco.
Thanks for explaining alot of things I didn't get. I guess it was better than I thought.
I was just about to make the same comment 34:34
that's because he's not Batman he's actually a crazy hobo named Steve who found a Batman costume and won the lottery, becoming inspired to be Batman.
all fear Crazy Steve
Ranma Toushin Bat-Steve
Actually the whole Yellow impurity was fixed in Green Lantern Rebirth, where it was retconned that the central power battery was the prison for Parallax and his influence made the rings weak against Yellow
braam saget Kewl
So glad they changed that, I never really got behind it as a weakness.
Ben Baragona yeah me too how can it be the most powerful weapon in the universe but be weak against custard.
The series was a hot mess yet as a reader you kept coming back BECAUSE it was ahot mess and you wanted to see what happened next, like to see who else could Miller fuck with even more.
joe mcnoe i thought this was an actual thing all the way until I saw “social justice league,” because everything before that is just crazy enough to exist, but there’s no way any writer’s self-parodying to do SJL
My Favorite Back Issues! Great work!
xFatalFailure A high honor! Thanks!
Someone should retcon this story by having that 5th dimensional leprechaun villain from Superman appear. It turns out the little guy was behind this story, mucking up reality because he got tired of losing to Superman. Batman was just practice. And this story never finishes because the leprechaun is confronted by Bat-Mite, who wants to put things back the way they were. That story could begin with the very last page of this story. That would make it a brief, fun filler story.
Allen Babylon I like the idea that Bat-Mite went nuts and became the Goddamn Batman.
I have finally* caught up to the latest episode of Back Issues! The asterisk is because I found this channel four days ago and have binged this series since Monday. It's pretty great.
Anyway, I know Sal is not big on X-Men, but I would love to see a treatment of the big events like the Dark Phoenix Saga, Fatal Attractions, the Mutant Massacre, X-Cutioner's Song, because they're so iconic, and Fall of the Mutants and the Onslaught Saga, because they're so dumb and I want to see them ripped apart.
Josh, welcome! I've read all those X-Books, and they're perfect for Back Issues. Rest assured, one day.
That is an epic binge, good work!
Best back issues ever, the second time round I couldn't stop laughing.
Thanks ComicPOP.
You guys should do something involving Daredevil because of his show coming out. Born Again is great and Frank Miller wrote it before he went absolutely insane.
frank miller seems to actively dislike every character that has superpowers.
Don’t ever tell Batman to chill out
Idk I think this series has a lot of cool moments!
It’s story has a lot of great moments and,of course,spectacular art.
It does have a super crazy Batman but I think that’s actually refreshing and different!
I think the main problem is that the series was never finished so you have no ending.
Also, you guys should do Superman: Earth One.
and Green Lantern Rebirth and/or the Sinestro War and blackest night should be the 52nd episode.
***** Superman Earth One sucked T_T
Moji hey it doesn't matter if it sucked or was amazing, in this show the reactions are all that matters.
***** No I'd definitely want to see them review it but just my opinion was that it sucked
Moji I kinda liked it for what it was, an Elseworlds story. But it definitely had some problems.
i know this run was nuts, but I enjoyed it because it was so over the top.
Jim Lee deserved better on this series...
That was worth the wait. The Crisis of Infinite Loops was cool too though.
John Frost lol Thanks, John.
Great video once again! Thinking Court and City of Owls, New 52 Batman would be my suggestion, would love to see your thoughts! Keep up the great work
Thanks man. We loved Court of Owls!
ETHANS backkkk! Nice work guys it's only getting better. I'm actually heading down from ct to funny comics tomorrow to pick up some comics.
Renzo Pareja Nice! What'd ya get?
Yay it's fixed :0) tv little house is my favorite comic channel I love it when you guys upload
Hornpile Pheonix Thank you so much Hornpile!
First vid I watch of you guys. Excellent stuff!!!
Thanks!
ComicPOP! Over the past few days I've watched a bunch of your videos. Seriously love the discussions. Very in depth, easy going, well-spoken and very instructive for me cause I'm fairly new to reading comics. Keep up the great work guys!
TheHappychondriac Thanks! So glad you're enjoying them ;) And welcome to comics!
Oh my god, I got myself a scotch and furiously fiddled with my balls in anticipation of your next video! A bit crass, I know, but it's one of my favorite lines from Bulletstorm and is the only thing that came close to depicting my anxiousness.
Allen Babylon lol
I approve of the scotch. Hell, I approve of it all!
Lol I KNEW you were going to say "Because he's Batman."
If this is supposed to be set in the same universe as Year One then Batman must’ve been hit by something that completely changed his personality. In Year One he’s violent, but not sadistic. He goes out of his way to help civilians caught up in his battles, and gets enraged when a bunch of corrupt cops try to take him out and go overboard when there’s civilians around, but he doesn’t kill them. He goes from helping save an old lady and saving Gordon’s son unmasked to recklessly mowing down cops, nearly killing Vicki Vale due to his recklessness, and kidnapping a kid and psychologically and physically torturing him. It’s like someone hit him with a Bizarro ray or something. And in DKR you get the sense Batman and Superman were at one point friendly and that they worked together, but in this book Batman is an asshole to Superman and blackmails him into doing what he wants. Frank Miller had no idea what he was doing with this book. It’s such a shame, because All Star Superman is amazing and this should’ve been amazing, but then Frank Miller decided to go all batshit crazy.
Ethan and Ben go through all 5 stages of grief in this episode LOL!
I love this book. It's such a good time. Also, you guys were hilarious.
Big fan of your videos, but something just struck me. It would be really cool if we could get a few more screen shots from the comics during the discussions. I would have loved to of seen that drafted scene. Idk if you have the rights or what not, just a suggestion.
We throw in quite a few images, but we don't wanna give away the comic if you want to actually get it!
....good point. You have made me buy quite a few comics that way. Touche
christopher freire gotta keep the industry running
this... this is the greatest one of all back issues!
glad you guys are getting the attention you deserve
"...Their genitals fight..."
LMFAO!
Very entertaining welcome back Ethan
Armand Muniz Thanks Armand!
Well, well, well as of today's The Dark Knight III announcement it sounds like the ride won't end yet for you and Miller
I think this is the most excited I've been seeing a Back Issues in my sub box. This damn book, man.
i4njw Hope you dug it!
TV Little House Comics Indeed I did. The reaction to the six-page foldout was great.
i4njw I have never seen anything like it before with comics. #mindblown
I mean I love Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns and his Daredevil stuff, but yeah the writing in All Star Batman and Robin was sub par BUT it’s still so worth it for the Jim Lee art. I’d love him to pair up with Grant Morrison if he hasn’t already
EDAR96 the multiversity. Check it out.
It's like joker and batman's personalities switched. Batman is a violent laughing psychopath that blows up cops, burns criminals alive, and kidnaps people and forces them to work for him. While joker doesn't even smile and says he's not funny.
All-star Batman is brilliant and straightforward. Love it.
+007 007 and clumsly psychotic
Frank was probably in the back office snorting coke and thinking batman must do this then that Jim will be the person who takes the blame and just goes crazy with drugs
My favorite episode. I’ve watched this probably 5 or 6 times
Would Batmans bats be called Bat-Bats?
Linkara called him Crazy Steve
This is one Frank Miller stopped becoming a great writer and became the comic Industries drunk uncle among many other drunk uncle's