I add a bunch of multi day stuff, 2 yellow microfiber towels to wipe of my body. Always have @20-30ft of nylon cord, when I make camp immediately get the cord between 2 points, usually just tree to tree and get my jacket and pants and socks airing out. I add weight by having a yoga style foam pad as my first layer and inflatable air mattress. I almost always bring a small ground cloth for under my tent. My kitchen set up is very similar. I buy the Starbucks or other quality instant coffee. And in my pot set, same as yours I have a small alcohol stove. I use yellow HEAT fuel additive as stove fuel. You can get it almost everywhere, Walmart, auto parts or lots of gas stations, 1 plastic container will last for @4-6 days. I have a 3x3 green Scotchbright scoring pad, have an old salt or pepper shaker filled w cleanser, and a toothpaste size container full of dish soap that you can use on dishes, hands, gear. and most importantly I have a minimum of 4 - one in nylon lashing straps in the bag not including the 2 used to secure the bag to the bike. After seeing videos of minor to very very serious crashes because gear comes loose or falls off the bike, consider the @$12 bucks for 6 lashing straps on Amazon a wise investment. Yes I do use a standard bungee cargo net also but only to hold additional things outside the bag which is strapped to the bike. I buy water and some prepared food at last stop in civilization.. usually get multiple sandwiches like chicken or hamburgers and eat those first day,buy 6 pack of mini doughnuts for breakfast with my coffee . I love all your stuff and thought behind it, I am a little whimpy and spend extra weight on sleeping stuff
Thanks for such a thoughful reply! On longer trips (on my GS) I keep clothesline and pins, but I usually just end up hanging my jacket and pants over the bike. I also use an inflatable backpacking air mattress and my tent has a footprint for under it on those trips. I cut down one of the scotchbrite/sponge things to 1"x2", then I soak it in dish soap and let it air dry. When it's time to clean up after dinner, just add a bit of water and the soap is already there!
I use a yellow taped seam Tyvek one piece coverall as an ultralight rain suit. It wouldn't be a good choice for commuting where it'll see regular use, but it's plenty reliable enough to use a few times a year. It's very waterproof although a bit loose fitting so it flaps a bit when riding. It's half to a third the volume and 20% the weight of a *real* rain suit.
@@mustachemoto - I use a Hennessy 4 Season Explorer XL Zip hammock but it's no savings in weight or packed volume compared to a small tent. It's at least twice the volume of the hammock shown in this video, but it's a solid comfortable shelter. I'm too old to sleep in a banana hammock so I need one of the lay-flat varieties. Unlike the backpacking, canoe or kayak camping, or mountain bike camping, I cover a lot more ground when motorcycle camping and I have continental moto camping aspirations. There are many places I might want to camp where there are no trees - the beach, plains, desert, above the tree line in the mountains, etc. I bought a couple of generic collapsible aluminum tent poles on Amazon, bought some lightweight aluminum stakes and cut a Tyvek footprint so I can pitch my Hennessy hammock as a small single person tent. When I first started moto camping, I imagined that I'd be camping during riding season... the summer months. The best moto camping is the spring and fall. It feels too hot to be comfortable now that summer has arrived in the southeastern US. A friend and I jumped the gun a bit and went moto camping in the Hoosier National Forest in Indiana last December 8th. I'm doing a lot more all season moto camping than I originally imagined. It's easier to get warmer when camping than it is to get cooler. I can pack a heavy pile jacket and a winter sleeping bag. I can't pack an air conditioner.
Great video. I use basically the same list as I take for BICYCLE touring. It all fits in a dry bag like you illustrated. I call this crossover "MotorBikePacking" and I tour on a 200cc scrambler or a 125cc minimoto!!!
Definitely minimalistic, and inspiring. Just prepping for my first Moto camping trip, which will be a long one as I am picking up a CB 500 X in California and riding it back to Washington state slowly. Needless to say, I’m gonna have a bit more gear than you do, but seeing how you have paired it down has helped me think about my options - thanks. Especially like the tip on those water shoes, as well as the backpack drybag!
That sounds like a fantastic adventure, I hope you have a blast!!! If you're going to stay in hotels, you can certainly pack even lighter. I did three weeks on my R1250GSA and wandered from Atlanta to Utah and back. I carried a ton of gear and camped almost every night, but I would certainly take less when I do it again. That packing video is here: ruclips.net/video/Q37-Ux0ujsw/видео.html
Liking your video very much. Thanks. Location, location, location. 😂. That’s what they say about real estate. No? Same is very true about weight placement on the bike. The things are designed to have the majority of their mass where the engine is and by moving your gear bag high and far rearward it will impact how the bike handles to a significant degree. So, if possible, I suggest to everyone to utilize options that locate the weight on the sides of the bike and low/forward. Perhaps something like a Giant Loop u-shaped Great Basin bag or something like the Mosko Rackless (not trying to suggest a specific brand, only using as an example).
Lower is always better, and I'll probably move to something like the Giant-Loop style (probably something cheaper like the Tusk version). But, it's only 13 pounds, so getting it down 6 inches probably won't make that much difference.
@@mustachemoto 13 pounds is really good! Moving down AND forward will make a difference. How much? Depends on how hard you ride, the terrain, your proper suspension settings etc. You know, I think my advice is mostly geared (only a little pun intended 😏) towards those who mound large amounts of belongings onto the bike and then curse when the bike behaves terribly when off road. Uli
How has that drybag worked out for you? I could buy 10 of them for the price of a Mosko Moto bag. I really enjoyed your video and I hope you had a nice motocamping trip.
I love the drybag! I also use the Wild Heart duffle (amzn.to/3VILIpg) and saddlebags (amzn.to/4bjQfEr) on my GS when I take the hard luggage off. They're so much cheaper. I'm sure they won't last as long, but I've used them for several years with absolutely no problem.
I always like seeing how people do ultralight moto camping. Mine is more oriented to multi-day trips and cooking real food in camp, but admittedly I have a large tool roll even though I have tubeless tires so I don't need tire spoons or a spare tube. Have you actually gone camping with this stuff, or is this a "what I hope will work" video?
I haven't camped with this exact combination, but I have camped everything in the video and have camped enough to know what I NEED. I keep trying to pare it back to just the essentials, then I can add in a creature comfort or two depending on the trip. I intended to camp with it this week for next Saturday's video, but my week got very busy (I work for myself, so off time is just when clients don't need me) and I thought it would be too hot to be fun even if I could squeeze it in.
Great video and I'm very interested in your rain gear choice! I've been searching for a lightweight setup that doesn't take up too much space in my soft bags. Cheers!
That bag contains my "backup" rain gear that stays on my bike all the time. If I'm going on a cross-country trip or if I know I'm in for some wet weather, I would wear my heavier Tourmaster waterproof riding jacket, waterproof boots, etc... In the bag I've got a cheap tape-sealed nylon raincoat (it's noname, but something like this: amzn.to/3RGHqxE), a pair of Columbia waterproof pants (amzn.to/4eCfNQg), silicone boot covers (amzn.to/45Bf6T0) and Sealskinz waterproof socks (amzn.to/3VEuEkx).
5:20 - Please be very careful about "straps right on the back with a couple of bungees". Moto Giant has forgotten more about moto camping than we'll ever know. He lost a sleeping bag off the back of his Tiger 800 and it locked up the rear wheel at 80 MPH a month ago. He lost his right foot in the accident.
@@mustachemoto - Rok Straps are way better than Harbor Freight bungee cords. I count failure modes. How many things need to fail before I'm in trouble? Two independent straps might mean two straps need to fail to lose the load, but if there's a strap on each side, losing either strap might allow the load to pivot and depart. It depends on the configuration. Two longer straps where each strap secures the entire load would be a little more hassle but should be safer. I put everything in a single 66 liter roll top waterproof duffel. You mentioned a WildHeart duffel in another comment. It's one of those. I chose it because the tie down points are on the bottom. That allows me to secure the load to the pillion and rear rack without compressing the load as most duffel bags require me to do. That allows me to open and close the duffel at rest stops during the day, or while in camp, without needing to loosen straps that secure the duffel. It's much more convenient. Not compressing the load also means the load doesn't compress under the straps and loosen while I ride, which is much safer. I attach that 66L duffel to the bike using four independent lengths of 550 paracord, one on each corner. My goal is to survive single or even dual failure modes. My riding buddy has the same duffel bag and he uses two 1" nylon cam buckle straps to secure it. The cams buckles are aluminum and stainless steel. These are the same straps that people use to strap a canoe to a car roof. They're very strong. I've towed a car with one of these straps. My friend passes each of these two straps through four pairs of D loops on the duffel bag (eight total per strap, 16 total for both straps). The tails of the straps are doubled back through the double D rings to lock them in place, similar to the way a motorcycle helmet is secured. That's a very safe mounting system. Motorcyclists often fail to appreciate the importance of properly securing loads to a motorcycle. It's not just a matter of losing a tent. A partially secured load can be deadly.
I usually pick up food along the way at a grocery or Walmart... plenty of room in the bag for that. I actually shot an additional clip adding that info, but the sound was messed up so I left it out.
Taking my MT03 on a trip using everyone of these tips going from Chicago to El paso
That sounds awesome, have a blast!!! Check out my other videos for lots of other great tips.
Thanks! Nice inspiration to even go lighter!
I add a bunch of multi day stuff, 2 yellow microfiber towels to wipe of my body. Always have @20-30ft of nylon cord, when I make camp immediately get the cord between 2 points, usually just tree to tree and get my jacket and pants and socks airing out. I add weight by having a yoga style foam pad as my first layer and inflatable air mattress. I almost always bring a small ground cloth for under my tent. My kitchen set up is very similar. I buy the Starbucks or other quality instant coffee. And in my pot set, same as yours I have a small alcohol stove. I use yellow HEAT fuel additive as stove fuel. You can get it almost everywhere, Walmart, auto parts or lots of gas stations, 1 plastic container will last for @4-6 days. I have a 3x3 green Scotchbright scoring pad, have an old salt or pepper shaker filled w cleanser, and a toothpaste size container full of dish soap that you can use on dishes, hands, gear. and most importantly I have a minimum of 4 - one in nylon lashing straps in the bag not including the 2 used to secure the bag to the bike. After seeing videos of minor to very very serious crashes because gear comes loose or falls off the bike, consider the @$12 bucks for 6 lashing straps on Amazon a wise investment. Yes I do use a standard bungee cargo net also but only to hold additional things outside the bag which is strapped to the bike. I buy water and some prepared food at last stop in civilization.. usually get multiple sandwiches like chicken or hamburgers and eat those first day,buy 6 pack of mini doughnuts for breakfast with my coffee .
I love all your stuff and thought behind it, I am a little whimpy and spend extra weight on sleeping stuff
Thanks for such a thoughful reply! On longer trips (on my GS) I keep clothesline and pins, but I usually just end up hanging my jacket and pants over the bike. I also use an inflatable backpacking air mattress and my tent has a footprint for under it on those trips. I cut down one of the scotchbrite/sponge things to 1"x2", then I soak it in dish soap and let it air dry. When it's time to clean up after dinner, just add a bit of water and the soap is already there!
Yes, I was going to suggest ROK straps instead of bungees.
Impressive
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I use a yellow taped seam Tyvek one piece coverall as an ultralight rain suit. It wouldn't be a good choice for commuting where it'll see regular use, but it's plenty reliable enough to use a few times a year. It's very waterproof although a bit loose fitting so it flaps a bit when riding. It's half to a third the volume and 20% the weight of a *real* rain suit.
great idea. Tyvek is awesome and I've used it for tent footprints before.
@@mustachemoto - I use a Hennessy 4 Season Explorer XL Zip hammock but it's no savings in weight or packed volume compared to a small tent. It's at least twice the volume of the hammock shown in this video, but it's a solid comfortable shelter. I'm too old to sleep in a banana hammock so I need one of the lay-flat varieties. Unlike the backpacking, canoe or kayak camping, or mountain bike camping, I cover a lot more ground when motorcycle camping and I have continental moto camping aspirations. There are many places I might want to camp where there are no trees - the beach, plains, desert, above the tree line in the mountains, etc. I bought a couple of generic collapsible aluminum tent poles on Amazon, bought some lightweight aluminum stakes and cut a Tyvek footprint so I can pitch my Hennessy hammock as a small single person tent.
When I first started moto camping, I imagined that I'd be camping during riding season... the summer months. The best moto camping is the spring and fall. It feels too hot to be comfortable now that summer has arrived in the southeastern US. A friend and I jumped the gun a bit and went moto camping in the Hoosier National Forest in Indiana last December 8th. I'm doing a lot more all season moto camping than I originally imagined. It's easier to get warmer when camping than it is to get cooler. I can pack a heavy pile jacket and a winter sleeping bag. I can't pack an air conditioner.
Great video. I use basically the same list as I take for BICYCLE touring. It all fits in a dry bag like you illustrated. I call this crossover "MotorBikePacking" and I tour on a 200cc scrambler or a 125cc minimoto!!!
Now that sounds like serious fun!
Definitely minimalistic, and inspiring.
Just prepping for my first Moto camping trip, which will be a long one as I am picking up a CB 500 X in California and riding it back to Washington state slowly. Needless to say, I’m gonna have a bit more gear than you do, but seeing how you have paired it down has helped me think about my options - thanks.
Especially like the tip on those water shoes, as well as the backpack drybag!
That sounds like a fantastic adventure, I hope you have a blast!!! If you're going to stay in hotels, you can certainly pack even lighter. I did three weeks on my R1250GSA and wandered from Atlanta to Utah and back. I carried a ton of gear and camped almost every night, but I would certainly take less when I do it again. That packing video is here: ruclips.net/video/Q37-Ux0ujsw/видео.html
Hammoc is definitely a great option!
Thanks for sharing your tips
100% If you keep watching, I'll keep sharing!!
Nice setup. It looks well thought out. Hope it works out well for you.
Happy 4th of July.
JT
Thanks and hope you had a happy 4th too! I'll post again after my next camping trip.
Liking your video very much. Thanks.
Location, location, location. 😂. That’s what they say about real estate. No? Same is very true about weight placement on the bike. The things are designed to have the majority of their mass where the engine is and by moving your gear bag high and far rearward it will impact how the bike handles to a significant degree.
So, if possible, I suggest to everyone to utilize options that locate the weight on the sides of the bike and low/forward. Perhaps something like a Giant Loop u-shaped Great Basin bag or something like the Mosko Rackless (not trying to suggest a specific brand, only using as an example).
Lower is always better, and I'll probably move to something like the Giant-Loop style (probably something cheaper like the Tusk version). But, it's only 13 pounds, so getting it down 6 inches probably won't make that much difference.
@@mustachemoto 13 pounds is really good!
Moving down AND forward will make a difference. How much? Depends on how hard you ride, the terrain, your proper suspension settings etc.
You know, I think my advice is mostly geared (only a little pun intended 😏) towards those who mound large amounts of belongings onto the bike and then curse when the bike behaves terribly when off road.
Uli
Yep, I see those people all the time!
How has that drybag worked out for you? I could buy 10 of them for the price of a Mosko Moto bag. I really enjoyed your video and I hope you had a nice motocamping trip.
I love the drybag! I also use the Wild Heart duffle (amzn.to/3VILIpg) and saddlebags (amzn.to/4bjQfEr) on my GS when I take the hard luggage off. They're so much cheaper. I'm sure they won't last as long, but I've used them for several years with absolutely no problem.
I always like seeing how people do ultralight moto camping. Mine is more oriented to multi-day trips and cooking real food in camp, but admittedly I have a large tool roll even though I have tubeless tires so I don't need tire spoons or a spare tube. Have you actually gone camping with this stuff, or is this a "what I hope will work" video?
I haven't camped with this exact combination, but I have camped everything in the video and have camped enough to know what I NEED. I keep trying to pare it back to just the essentials, then I can add in a creature comfort or two depending on the trip. I intended to camp with it this week for next Saturday's video, but my week got very busy (I work for myself, so off time is just when clients don't need me) and I thought it would be too hot to be fun even if I could squeeze it in.
Great video and I'm very interested in your rain gear choice! I've been searching for a lightweight setup that doesn't take up too much space in my soft bags. Cheers!
That bag contains my "backup" rain gear that stays on my bike all the time. If I'm going on a cross-country trip or if I know I'm in for some wet weather, I would wear my heavier Tourmaster waterproof riding jacket, waterproof boots, etc... In the bag I've got a cheap tape-sealed nylon raincoat (it's noname, but something like this: amzn.to/3RGHqxE), a pair of Columbia waterproof pants (amzn.to/4eCfNQg), silicone boot covers (amzn.to/45Bf6T0) and Sealskinz waterproof socks (amzn.to/3VEuEkx).
I guess your clothes / motobike gear are in your rucksack or did I miss that part?
a change of pants, tshirt and socks are in the small red drybag for around camp and I'll be wearing the motorbike gear.
great tips! do you have a video of your DR650 build? if not, what wheelset and tire size are you running? - it looks awesome!
No idea on the wheelset and stock size tires. Here's a video about the DR: ruclips.net/video/Q0Ew7ZLt9io/видео.html
Thank you, i just went from a harley springer to a Yamaha T7 for my camping setup and realized that some things needed to change..
That's quite the change!
5:20 - Please be very careful about "straps right on the back with a couple of bungees". Moto Giant has forgotten more about moto camping than we'll ever know. He lost a sleeping bag off the back of his Tiger 800 and it locked up the rear wheel at 80 MPH a month ago. He lost his right foot in the accident.
you're 100% right. I actually use rok straps, which are much more secure and stronger than bungies and I should have said that.
@@mustachemoto - Rok Straps are way better than Harbor Freight bungee cords. I count failure modes. How many things need to fail before I'm in trouble? Two independent straps might mean two straps need to fail to lose the load, but if there's a strap on each side, losing either strap might allow the load to pivot and depart. It depends on the configuration. Two longer straps where each strap secures the entire load would be a little more hassle but should be safer.
I put everything in a single 66 liter roll top waterproof duffel. You mentioned a WildHeart duffel in another comment. It's one of those. I chose it because the tie down points are on the bottom. That allows me to secure the load to the pillion and rear rack without compressing the load as most duffel bags require me to do. That allows me to open and close the duffel at rest stops during the day, or while in camp, without needing to loosen straps that secure the duffel. It's much more convenient. Not compressing the load also means the load doesn't compress under the straps and loosen while I ride, which is much safer. I attach that 66L duffel to the bike using four independent lengths of 550 paracord, one on each corner. My goal is to survive single or even dual failure modes.
My riding buddy has the same duffel bag and he uses two 1" nylon cam buckle straps to secure it. The cams buckles are aluminum and stainless steel. These are the same straps that people use to strap a canoe to a car roof. They're very strong. I've towed a car with one of these straps. My friend passes each of these two straps through four pairs of D loops on the duffel bag (eight total per strap, 16 total for both straps). The tails of the straps are doubled back through the double D rings to lock them in place, similar to the way a motorcycle helmet is secured. That's a very safe mounting system.
Motorcyclists often fail to appreciate the importance of properly securing loads to a motorcycle. It's not just a matter of losing a tent. A partially secured load can be deadly.
First aid kit?
Tool kit?
Tow strap?
Tool kit is on the bike in the tool tube. No tow strap and no first aid kit.
Light is right, all good next time😅
I have to admit that I add some creature comforts for longer trips and the kit grows!
@@mustachemoto I'm 68 almost 69. Why suffer. I been riding distance over 50 years. Been and done.
What about food?
I usually pick up food along the way at a grocery or Walmart... plenty of room in the bag for that. I actually shot an additional clip adding that info, but the sound was messed up so I left it out.
Depending where you are, just pick up food at places you go through
absolutely... best way to keep it light
You'll need a pad for that hammock.
I can get away without the pad during the summer. If I'm going to pack the pad, I'll probably just sleep on the ground under a tarp to save weight.