It doesn't take much to kill a Yeti
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Today we talk you through a typical service job. Something that seems innocuous that has spread through the bike and caused wear in lots of places. Some more regular and precise maintenance could have prevented a lot of these problems and caught them early. Pivots will always wear out. Once again we see an out of spec frame being the cause of premature component wear. We fixed this with the @parktool 40.98mm reamer.
This customer was saved a really big bill thanks to the generosity of our friends at @FOXFACTORY and the team at Silverfish.
Parts Used:
Yeti Infinity Link - Kasima Version
Yeti SB150 bearing kit
RaceFace Ride Cranks
RaceFace PF41 to 24mm Bottom Bracket
Tools Used
@WeraToolRebels X1 Torque Wrench with insert ends
Wera X3 Torque Wench
@altaltbike Drifts
So good to see a mechanic being so meticulous about his job. Hats off.
I see only standard job and if not done this way, the job is done very poorly. I am just saying customers should not adapt to poor bike maintenance but keeping their standards.
One thing I’ve always told novice riders is to get the bike checked asap when it develops play, no matter how little. A little bit of play usually gets progressively worse to the point that something ends up in the bin. I once made the costly mistake to finish my enduro run with a slightly loose headset. Resulted in an ovalized headtube which could be fixed by a carbon repair shop for 400 euros..
Ouch.
There's a really good hammer analogy when it comes to play:
Take a hammer and push on your workbench or something. Push hard, you cannot do any damage.
Now start hitting it. You can damage something very easily this way.
Same applies to bearings. When they're always in contact, the forces are not focused or multiplied. But once there's "play," force amplification causes quick damage.
Just had that same thing happening on a XCM race. Gladly noticed and tightened the stem bolts.
had the same with my limited edition intense evo, but i manufactured a heavy steal piece for the tube instead 💀
Whats youre name ?
This really makes me appreciate the simplicity of my single pivot 😅 That hidden grease port is something I've never heard of, but should be mentioned in every proper review of the bike! Too bad bike press seems to be too busy drooling over the latest gizmo that no one really wants😂
Totally agree. Love my single pivot linkage frames like the Kona Process 134 and Evil Offering.
There are solutions for this Problem. For example i developed a grease adapter. I can grease the ports easy now.
I am also selling it as product and printable file. ;)
To be fair it's two bolts that need to be removed to access that second grease port. It's a 10 minute job assuming everything is smooth. The issue I had was the pivot bolt hadn't been greased properly by the bike assembler. From the internet this seems quite a common issue but that only turned it into a 30 minute (albeit scary) job. Hopefully the next time will be quick.
That said I am most likely to drop mine in to Paul for a full service and check over when it's due.
@@Lex_Lazy_Racing that's brilliant!
@@swirlyr3380 hope next time is easier! Stubborn bolts really suck :D I would actually degrease the threads and try a bit of locktite, and let it dry before riding.
A few years back I considered a Yeti but you've basically highlighted in several ways why I didn't buy one. At the price they come in at, they could at least send you free bearings like Santa Cruz and make sure the BB is perfect.
Totally agree
Yep they are definitely one of the more delicate bikes. We have a customer who had a 115, that the switch body cracked clean through, which caused so much play in the rear that by the end of the ride that it happened on it had damaged the aluminium inserts that hold the bearings in the rear triangle, rendering it unusable. To Yeti's credit, they did warranty the frame and sent the customer a new 120 frame with a new shock. Good customer service, but I guess it needs to be when you charge that much and stuff breaks so easily, this is that customer's second warranty frame the first one developed a crack in the seat tube.
Same here….it only takes a little wear to have a lot of negative effects
The thing with Santa cruz is you pay like 30% more than everything else similar spec wise to cover those "Free" bearings and to get customer support. Where as other brands can be amazing at customer service and just wanting to keep you riding 🤷♂️ anyone I've personally come across woth infinity link issues has had it warrantied / replaced by Yeti at no cost other than maybe the labour to fit it / other servicing of bike at same time.
@@MancWithAMouth My point was that SC and Yeti are near the same price. With an SC that had an out of alignment BB you could warranty it. They'll warranty even vaguely faded paint. They'll send you that new frame right away and it will be the latest model no questions asked. But the chances of a bad BB are non existant with the QC checks they do. I'd expect the same from Yeti.
Glad I’ve got me self a hardtail , thanks for the video buddy
Awesome craftmanship from you guys, love it..... the only thing I love more is my hardtail with a BSA BB and external cable routing meticulously maintained by me. 😎
with bikes like that, servicing like this is a must, yet again above and beyond when it comes to attention to detail. setting a standard for the kind of service you expect with a £10k mountainbike. 10/10 guys
Thank you 🙏
Great vid, you've encapsulated quite how much work and competence is required servicing bikes like this.
Thanks Gary
4.30 in, that's next level customer service above and beyond the fair and reasonable, wow.
It was a stroke of luck.
Also an honest and decent shop. Many others would do half a job to charge more once the other bearings gave in.
Great video Paul! Super informative. I feel sorry for the bike owner as they were probably gutted to see all the damage caused by ignoring the suspension bearings.
This is a great resource! As a Yeti owner (SB 150) I will return here for the infinity link info and more. Thanks!!
Absolutely my kind of video. Full sus! Thank you for close up shots during assembly. I'm home mechanic and you reasurred me that service I did to my Giant Reign was ok. Can't wait for fox service video 🙂
Drops Sunday night. Thank you
Makes me appreciate the “suspension” on my Orange more 😂
Wouldn’t trust those carbon frames tho
This video has come at the perfect timing as I'm planning to replace all the pivot bearings on my yeti sb6c in the next few days. Good to know what to look out for. Cheers Paul!
Been running the same Race Face Cinch crankset for almost 5 years now….replaced BB once. It’s a terrific system, inexpensive and RELIABLE
I rode my 1200€ hardtail for about 6 years and Cinch worked flawlessly all that time with very little maintenance. The best thing about it is the long term affordability.
I am really happy with the Yeti and for me count the ride quality of the bike and for me it is not a issue to maintance the bike
MY PF-41 BB has been rock solid mated w SRAM custom carbon S-2200 cranks on a 2013 Stumpjumper Elite 29er alloy. Great vid. Complex suspensions need diligent maintenance. Annual teardowns are a must. Torque specs w carbon frames and parts is crucial. That means you need the tools too.
The Race Face stamped steel chainrings have been, in my experience, absolutely brilliant. They are cheap and insanely durable. They may not come in fancy colours or be the lightest, but they will outlast any alloy ring 4:1.
Pristine, honest content as always, the best channel you can find around, with actual consumer mindset in their sights. Bravo!
What a great mechanic! Keep up the great work!
I own a yeti and they really are easy to maintain. The trouble is people to realise that bikes need maintenance, then end up with a bike in this state, literally takes 5 mins to maintain the switch infinity. Also the switch infinity is a lifetime warranty so if the customer is the original owner then the infinity would be sent out free of charge
Makes me happy to be riding a rigid single speed.
Great video. Wish there was more content like this on RUclips
It’s coming. Been decking out our suspension room for filming
the infinity link is such a picky gimmick, it basically makes you service it almost every ride just to make sure it stays in good shape and won't eat itself out, it's not a overstatement when people call it a dentist bike haha
For this reason, I decided not to buy the YT-135
Wrong
Have you actually ridden a Yeti with the switch infinity link? It's far from a gimmick and when they offer lifetime replacements of the switch infinity free of charge it's hardly a reason for people to discount them.
I've said many times if you ignore the small rattles and small amounts of play then by the time they're big rattles and big amounts of play, everything is knackered! Nice to see 'boutique' bikes are no better than anything else.
(shivers) Hope my SB155 doesn't need any of this! Great info- seriously I need to stay on top of all this. One small problem could potentially total one of these.
You got this 🤘🏼
If it makes you feel a little better, I rode a sb130 since launch until recently and never developed issues with the frame like this! Still going strong, actually. Serviced the SI regularly and did few bearing swaps during those years.
Man is an excellent technician very knowledgeable and throughout.
Awesome rebuild and presenting!! Hats off!
Thank you
Really enjoy your content, and, yes, indeed: if you like bad customer service, go for YETI.
Bike must be well ridden! Its great to see a thorough mechanic!
Great video and as a frustrated Yeti owner I’ll be coming to see you next time I’m up in the Lakes. Have had issues with the bottom brackets on my two Yetis as I tried to upgrade from a SRAM Dub BB to Hope only for the Hope BB to bind every time I pressed it into the frame. Hope checked their BB and it’s good so it’s a frame issue. Yeti’s response was to use the SRAM BB as it has a plastic shell that deforms when pressed! For a £3k plus frame that’s very poor so I’ll be bringing my frames in to get checked and hopefully reamed. Great bikes but maintenance in YK conditions is painful.
Yep. Sounds about right. Everyone’s fault but their own.
Rearend Bearing Replacement is one of my Favourite Jobs
Great insight just how much knowledge and skill you guys have
Thank you.
That customer is a absolute meat head 😂😂😂 when you said pre load on the bb I was thinking "bring on the carnage"
Right? Hard to blame the manufacturer when the customer starts messing with things they shouldn't be.
I don't have any direct experience with Yeti bikes, so it may very well be true that they aren't as durable as other brands, but I feel the headline may be a bit misleading...looking at those parts it seems blatantly apparent that whoever owns this bike was woefully negligent with maintenance.
Very good, & informative video Paul, thank you.🙏
Great service and accurate solution. That yeti looks good but with already so much issue. I avoid them personally, Not so good for english weather and expensive maintenance. But you saved the day, the client and bike will feel like new again.
Absolutely love the video, it would be awesome to see a more in depth video for how you extract and press bearings especially in BSB configurations .
Lots of thoughtful little bits here, very interesting. You have a new subscriber.
And jeesus that Yeti had been stretching the service intervals.
Awesome, thank you!
I ride a lot in the wet. Convinced more than ever that full suspension is a crock. I swore off full suspension a few years ago because the maintenance was so extreme, constantly ordering expensive kits and so much time. I go slower now on a hardtail but feel like its made me a better rider. I dont miss my yeti at all.
I’m with you on this. Love my hardtail for grab and go fun. I sometimes hire an enduro bike if we go to play in a trail centre.
I appreciate all the technology that Yeti has thought of; I'm not skilled enough to tell if it was Richie Rude alone or with the aid of this bike that Yeti has many EWS championships now. However, this much faff just to keep the bike working is just not for me.
I even joked about the SB150's bearing issues with my friend who used to own one. I joked that it had rear wheel steering. We spent a good amount of the morning attempting to overtorque the bearing bolts so that the rear triangle stops moving (unsuccessfully), just to get down the mountain alive. He eventually had to buy an entire bearing set and had the Infinity Link rebuilt as well.
It's a race bike, that's for sure. Performs like a champ, needs a rebuild right after.
And this is why I loved my orange alpine with just 2 bearings compared to my DW linked carbon Ballache
As a bicycle mechanic, Yeti's are some of the worst-built bikes I encounter. They are mostly not straight from the factory, they wear out quick, and do not age well. The only thing I hate working on more is a department store bike!
Which brands are good to work on?
I do like the fact that my bike is a hardtail!!
I have their older linkage kit from Session Components. Brazilian company. Yep Also have the AltAtl out of Canada. Really handy for the price
So happy I have hardtail 😂
Why I ride vintage bikes. Just as much fun without the headaches.
I’ve got an aluminium boardman pro with a bb30 and it’s been great,hammered that bike for 12 years and took it apart to check it the other day and it looked like new.The design is actually really simple and strong and the bearings are twice the size of the ones in my road bike shimano.I think it’s all down to how accurate the bottom bracket is cut out in the frame,if it’s off then it will cause problems.
Love that this video is out. The number of Yeti evangelists/Yeti dealers who go on about how "maintenance free" Yeti's are when they are a nightmare to maintain (and bearings all quite difficult to replace). NSMB has done a full article on this but all other publications/media never address Yeti maintenance issues.
that's why I love my orange. I can change the bearings in under 60min without a bikestand and special tools. And it rides phenomenal!
Ew, you don't have/use a bikestand?
@@rustler08 I have x bikestands at work so no I don't own one at my home.
My infinity link went after 4 yeats. Pretty much the same story however Yeti replaced it under warranty no dramas. Luckily mine came with a shimano BB and cranks so when the original BB wore out I replaced with a Hope fore longevity. Looked into going to 30mm axle cranks but didn't aafter a little research and came to the same conclusion as you, theeres not enough room for a decent bearing with a 30mm axle.
Yes you should never pay for a new infinity link, Yeti want everyone to believe they are not a handicap so will replace a worn out one on warranty.
Got to keep an eye on those main bearings on the infinity, once they stick it torques the shuttle hard against the rails as it slides!
Awesome video ! Master workmanship!! Subbed
"It doesn't take much to kill a Yeti" - I mean if you do zero maintenance on any bike it's going to end up with a costly repair bill. The switch infinity that was on that bike is absolutely thrashed, mainly due to the preload being non-existent on the stanchions. While adjusting the preload is a bit of a hassle (mainly lining up those damn spacers while reinstalling) greasing the switch infinity is simple and all Yeti riders should be capable of doing it themselves. I follow Yetis schedule on greasing and do a tear down on the switch infinity every other month and I haven't had any issues with my bike outside of my rear wheel bearings going bad, but that's an i9 issue.
how many hours do you ride every week?
@liamhyland2586 about 10-14 hours on the SB130. I do around 100 miles a week on it when I'm not training for gravel races.
You can add preload to the Infinity switch bushings via little grub screws you can get too with the bearings pulled out
Yes. I think these were well beyond a little more preload though.
A Yeti is on my wish list, however I'd be concerned about a competent shop for maintenance. It seems to be an F1 type of machine.
I replaced my SB6 Ferrari with an alloy Ripmo. Best decision ever.
@ 12:20 Nice to see a bearing with a damaged dust seal going into the bike with no worries. That's not going to get dirt and moisture in there and ware out prematurely.
Moral of this story is to stay away from those fancy gimmicky inventions like that Yeti swing link.
Seriously the marginal gain is ridiculously marginal in this case 😂
Overegineering, looked good in cad.
Or, if choosing a high-precision route, committing to--and doing--the required regular maintenance is critical, toward avoiding a more-costly cascade of parts wear.
The Switch Infinity device is just one more thing that can go wrong and personally I went for a Pivot bike instead even though I've liked Yeti since the 80's and 90's. A full suspension bike has a lot going already, so it's better to keep things as simple as possible.
Hmm thanks for this video been looking at a yeti sb140, I don’t mind doing pivot bearings but that infinity link I’m not sure about
For muddier areas, constant exposure to wear could mean every-ride clean-out and lubrication habits, when putting it away for the night.
Speaking for myself, here, out of respect: Maybe that habit is doable; Depends on the person, and their self-awareness, & discipline and space & time.
It would be interesting to find out the exact-minimum steps required, to daily-maintain it with no wasted movements, or analysis-paralysis.
If putting it away takes ten-fifteen minutes per ride, that may be acceptable.
I have a 140. Supposed to service every 40 hours or so. If you’re mechanically inclined it’s super simple. If not steer clear
@UpperLeftProductions I agree! It's really quite simple in the grand scheme of bike maintenance. I've had a SI-link bike for over 4 years now and never found the servicing to be cumbersome
@mapdec - would be really interested in your opinions (in video form obviously) of some common full suspension bike brands that are really good (and bad) for servicing and ease of maintenance … to be honest this Yeti looks like an absolute nightmare for maintenance and I wouldn’t but one because of this, but ive heard other brands like Canyon to be very good with flat surfaces, bearings in pivots and not frame etc etc) it’s only from doing pivot bearing changes on a couple of bikes over the years that this would be a major point of consideration before buying a new bike. Thanks again for your channel.. it’s AWESOME!
10:49 little correction here: both versions are hard anodized. Kashima is a special treatment with teflon thats supposed to decrease friction of the hard anodized surface. color is just dye added during anodiziation. :)
No Teflon in kashima. Its Ms02 (Molybdenum Sulfide)
Even when Yeti resurgenced back to the market around 2015, There was a creator who openly shared how to service switch infinity/infinity system on their yeti, Watching that video gave me the ick and made a personal promise never to buy a yeti bike even if it’s a good deal. Not that I could afford it in this lifetime but still.
It’s always worth looking past the marketing with an eye on practicality.
@@Mapdec True, And it’s a shame that most of the riders of this type of bike would do the bare minimum to the bike and it’s mind boggling.
You are a great source of information..
Thank you
That's one reason why I use a hardtail, I don't do enduro and for XC you do not necessarily need full sus.
My bike also has a threaded BB, this might be oldschool but the tap making the thread has no tolerances, it always cuts the threads to the defined size, and the threads are cut round even if the welding on the alloy frame has deformed the BB shell slightly. The axle of my hollowtech crankset is steel, so it will not wear out that fast.
A threaded bb shell doesn't guarantee alignment unless it's line bored
@@Andy-co6pn my frame comes out of an automated production line. The bike is likely produced by Giant, since they produce bikes for Scott.
I would assume they clamp the frame in the right position and a CNC machine cuts the BB threads from left and right.
I never had a squeeking from my BB, it seems to be well alinged. The bike has run at least 10k km now and the first BB does not show any sign of wear.
It kind of looks like the A frame pivot bearing was pressed in on the dust seal @12:26? - Loving the videos & your willingness to teach real skills and knowledge on bike repair though keep up the videos
So much yeti hate in here. Bottom line is the customer did not do recommended service. This is a high performance machine like so many other premium bikes out there, and ignoring service intervals will lead to more expensive repairs down the road - same as vehicles.
Getting your bearings matters… in all seriousness mtb full suspension pivot bearings are one of the biggest things that get skipped in full service i did it on my last bike (carbon niner rip 9 rdo) and the outer steel race and inner aluminum seat actually corroded and the bearing was permanently set into the seatstay where it meats the rocker link. We tried pressing it out at the shop and the carbon started creaking and the bearing press tool started to break so we left it as a permanent problem. Ive now moved on bikes but bearings and quality ones are always swapped in when i start noticing issues so im not replacing a rear triangle due to a bearing
SI will have lifetime warranty, but it does need frequent regreasing and it’s a bit of a pain. My old 150 frame had a very tight BB shell but my other, newer warranty frame is more or less perfect. Still unacceptable for the price of these frames so I’m glad they went for BSA on the new versions.
Criminal that the bb shell is undersized, considering the eye watering cost of a Yeti frame
Yep
Hello, Hambini MTB fans!
Oh man, Yeti is washed.
Garbage
Eye Watering. lol. That's funny.
The sales rep for Yeti drives a X5 and has house in Key West. The customer owns a bag of beans. Welcome to bike industry. 😮
Love seeing do your thing with worn parts. Would greatly help if you made the camera angle such that we could see what’s happening clearer.
Sorry. I had to do this off a tripod or nothing. I didn’t have a college to hand for this one.
My non drive side DUB bearing failed at less than 500km. This was a new unit installed by LBS as part of a warranty upgrade. But mine goes into recycling scrapmetal, NOT landfill BTW.
When I saw that design come out, I thought ‘what a nightmare’ to keep fresh……a lesson in KISS
Another great video. You should have more views and subs.
Thank you. Please spread the word.
I think the bb size is dictated by the shell which looks pretty thin in order to fit the infinity link ,so yeti had to compromise a bit, also i’m not sure what shock pressure is required but it seems if it is say 25% more than your body weight the leverage ratio will put that much more pressure on all linkages accelerating wear. I haven’t tested that theory but the Giant maestro link seems to last ages if you keep things clean.
I looked at a Yeti recently. Saw that bottom setup and thought "problems". Saved several K plus parts and labour, dear god they're expensive.
They’ve been on sale. Got my 2024 SB140 T2 LR for $6100 - with fox factory Suspension, X01, carbon bars/cranks. No different than any other premium bike mfr.
Nobody should buy a FS Yeti unless they’re willing to do the extra maintenance. About 50 hours of riding requires SI service. I get it done in about an hour. For those who don’t do it, it’s a bit like owning a race car and then being surprised the upkeep is more.
Get it tight get it right.
If there's one thing that i keep an eye in is any kind of play on components. It seems like a small thing until a bunch of things fail and you have 900+ bucks in parts to replace
Altalt...great products, and local to me.
My old Mondraker Summum had 16 bearings! They were small and wore out fast.
Just buy a Santa Cruz. All the bearings are in the links. So easy to work on, absolutely gorgeous bikes and worst case a new link is about £70 including bearings. Also they have a threaded bb, standard boost spacing, lifetime warranty on frames, free bearings for life (£80-100 for Specialized Enduro) and the Syndicates top rider Jackson Goldstone absolutely smashed it last year when he was fit. Probably would have been world champion as well.
The switch infinity link is the reason I've never purchased a Yeti. It's pricey enough changing pivot bearings every year let alone a switch infinity link
An infinity link that is not infinite 👌
More like a finite link
Sold my yeti sb5 after a year as i saw this coming even though i maintained it well. Glad i sold it after seeing this. I believe they changed the swingarm design after this model so you can access the grease ports but i wouldn't buy another yeti until they come up with a system that ditches the switch infinity
Perhaps they'll release their DH. As for the Switch Infinity system, and as someone located in a dryer geographical area, I'm comfortable waiting for one, and to buy rebuild kits right off the bat. Then: consistent & correct regular maintenance.
One thing that I didn't hear you mention that any Yeti newer than 2019 is covered by a lifetime warranty on the frame and the switch infinity unit. Send 4 photos and your proof of purchase to Silverfish and they will send you a new link free of charge.
2nd hand. No receipt.
8:50 15 years ago when I worked in a bike shop my press kits were sockets, nuts, washers, and threaded rod 🤣
Wow. They did have proper tools 15 years ago.
@@Mapdec lol, I guess it's pushing 20 years now. But the kids I remember we had were for Santa Cruz and maybe Trek. Most of the press tools weren't much more than threaded rod, and something round that fit well and pressed parallel.
Im surprised you didn't suggest the double row PF41/29 bearings. Firstly there's no cup, just stainless flanged bearings that press directly into the frame to gain a mm or so, secondly the double row. My bearing life went from 3 months with the race face to 6 years and still counting.
Maybe if the cranks were still in good shape
Almost every SRAM Dub bottom bracket uses a 40x30 bearing, same as their bb86/92 fitment variants with a 41mm OD. They are forced to use aluminum for the outer cup instead of plastic, which is less tolerant of misalignment or dimensional irregularities. In this case, I'm sure the frame being undersized was the true culprit.
That said, I 100% agree that going with a crank with a steel 24mm is the way to go.
The dub system is a grift
Sounds like you have saved this bike
Just the shock lol, everything else is pretty fucked
So annoying that the UK weather just chews up high end bikes without frequent care. Spent more time on the hardtail this year with how wet its been than most of the past years!
Lucky my friend is sponsored by the shop lol.
Is that a supacaz bottle cage. Gotta be careful with those too, the bottom ledge bends out after awhile and you bottle can just fly out.
But it's slanted so it should be fine, the vertical one on my road bike had issues.
It does a great job of looking cool. 😎
Happens to be a Yeti but it really doesn’t matter, treat your bike poorly with no preventative maintenance and your bike is going to wear out. My only real complaint with my yeti is the difficultly of getting the infinity link greased that is behind the frame.
Anyway, yeti bikes are amazing bikes to ride and the warranty on them are probably one of the best in the industry.
Moral of the story, buy an expensive bike get ready to put some cash into maintaining it.
I was never sold on this bike, the system looked like a nightmare that would collect gunk. Also seen Yeti snap rear end cus of flipping over in a rock garden, rider fell to the side rear end snapped. No thx.
That's years of no maintenance! 😮
My SB130 looked similar after about a year of riding. Yetis demand so much maintenance and care. It doesn’t make sense to me why they would put a sensitive component such as the SI link right in the way of where the mud sprays from your tire. I sense that my SI link got abused by mud, which then wore out the rest of the linkage bearings. Personally, I won’t be buying a yeti again just because the maintenance required was so high.
cool tune at 11:50
Great video
Thank you.
I just got rid of my YETI ASR.XC (2007 i think) Had it since 2017 and never liked it. I know they are technically good bikes and I loved the XT brakes and running gear however, the whole thing always felt so flimsy and the subframe was carbon also which I notice is the opposite these days. I wont own another as I also cannot stand the colours they use.. I have a specialized Demo 7 and a GT Fury now. Fury is a good looking bike. Yeti is an eyesore
I service all my own stuff, this has made me happy i didn't buy a yeti 😂
Love your videos so interesting. Love how you just do things right and care . I got a ebike with hub motor and spokes come loose even after i got wheel rebuild with better rim and strong spokes any ideas to fix or is it just life for wheel under alot stress
There is no good answer to this. We often look for 13g spokes on BAT reduction nipples, but even that doesn’t solve everything.
@@Mapdec yes its pain lol. Last shop used thin spokes not good idea on ebike im also 6'3 and 17 stone. Wheel now got sapim strong spokes and washers h plus son hydra rim . Have good weekend 👍👍🚴
Try triple butted spokes. DT Swiss Alpine III and Sapim Strong for 14g nipple/13g head or if hub allows Sapim E-Strong in 13G nipple / 12G head. Center sections of these spikes are rolled even a tad thinner so the center section can stretch a bit to absorb deformation and avoid transferring forces to the head and the nipple. DT Swiss Pro Lock nipples also help, get them in squorx and buy the squorx screwdriver because the classic slotted head are impossible to remove without damage later once the thread locker has set. If you feel like lacing some bombproof stuff, Ryde Andra 40 rim, heavy beyond reason but effective. Shipped with discutable round / true that will impact spoke tension somewhat, workable if despicable.
@@Nicolas-cm4cc already got stronger spokes look at my reply but thanks for info all my wheels hate me hsha
Yes sorry saw it after I posted. The rest still applies though !