New Details On Why Pence Refused To Get In Secret Service Car On Jan. 6
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2022
- After the mob breached the building on Jan. 6, the Secret Service hustled Mike Pence out. They wanted to take him away from the Capitol, but he refused to go. Why didn’t he want to go?
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There's another interpretation: Pence didn't trust the secret service after what Trump had said that day.
My thoughts exactly!!!
People are still desperately trying to play this down and keep it all within the realms of "a polite coup" even though we know there were assassination plots, explosives planted, gallows erected and far-right terror groups openly planning to transport weapons across the river.
Even now, after everything we know, people are still dancing around the obvious brutality of it all. Chris just alludes to the notion that the Secret Service was heavily involved in a coup attempt and they were just going to "move Pence out of the way".
Some of us understand that it was vastly more violent than this. They weren't planning to "move" Pence, they were planning to "remove" Pence entirely.
Most likely He knew Trump's plan before Jan 6th .
Yes.I think that too.Some og the security personel are traitors
Oh, btw..... something else to think about.....HOW LONG has to two infiltrated Secret Service
REMEMBER THIS:
"A Failed Coup Without Consequences Is Nothing More Than Practice For The Next One".
A Coup with no weapons. You sure you want to keep calling it a Coup? Too much dope I suspect.
This was most definitely an attempted overthrow of the now-certified outcome of the election by the then-Commander in Chief of the US military. That fits the definition of a coup.. whether he used all of the weapons at his disposal or not.
@@JoeyVol Absolute lie. BUT you can believe what you want, at least for now as your criminal chief is so out of it, his handlers, unelected children are in the process of banning speech and even what you THINK. Trouble with people like YOU, is you love it, especially if it's mandatory.
@@Youngberg1000 They had weapons. Where were you on January 6?
@@Youngberg1000 they keep calling it an insurrection too
How odd that all of the secret service communications were deleted in such a way that we cannot know what they were actually doing.
I don't know that story, but assuming it's true it makes sense. That was an extreme event and probably triggered some extreme protocols that are best kept secret so that they can be used effectively again.
It's not called the _secret_ service for nothing.
And quite convenient for the Secret Service agents involved. And we still don't know what the agents involved testified to... CYA to the extreme.
Trump gave them orders
Yes, unbelievable. And nobody is investigating.
For the same reasons why you don't get into a car with the mob bosses men when you didn't do what you were told
Oh yeah, you have experience with that???
The fact that we’re knowing all this and these people are all not only still walking around freely, but also wanting to return or remain in high government positions is really mind boggling.
If you notice, certain people of power and wealth can get away with anything. If heads will roll, it will be some hardly known scapegoats- such as a select few involved in the insurrection. Welcome to America.
It’s also amazing how much more continues to come out more than one year after the attempted coup. Head shaking and mouth gasping for sure
Well,
It’s US oligarchy.
The final decision will be done in prosecutorial offices of the justice department.
It’s going to be tolerated or prosecuted.
The difference between autocracy and democracy.
@@ehill1536 I thought we were a nation of laws.. I thought no one was above the law though. Oh...My bad those were just sayings. Those sayings only apply to the poor and middle class.
@@dorotazapolnik234 You do know that the justice department is NOT going to do do anything right?? You do know that they are going to go through the motions of conducting an investigation for OPTICS right.?? You do know Garland doesn't want to appear political so he will remain timid and will not prosecute ANYONE in the govt. for the insurrection. When it's all said and done....In 2004. The same party that destroyed/ broke America under Trumpism wil have control of the Supreme Court, White House, Senate, and possibly the house.....Only God can help America then. There is a storm brewing and the GOP will bring an end to democracy and political norms for good...MARK MY WORDS.
All this evidence and still Trump walks around freely
Just like smolletts attackers
Not only that, but he enjoys overwhelming support from Republicans in Congress, in state houses around the country, and in the Kremlin.
The fact that Trump still walks around free is very scary to me. Why is he still holding rallies?
@@jimmyjames6487 How do you milk sheep jimbo?
Tell them their election was stolen and ask for donations.
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Shows the power that trump still holds. It is 2022. Come 2024 and he will run for reelection and take all that he has learned and try again.
The goal was to prevent the electoral votes from being counted as required by the Constitution. Removing the vice president to an "undisclosed location" for "his own protection" and keeping him there for an extensive period would accomplish that.
Foiled again😂!
Who ordered buses for a congressional evacuation? That would be deeply illuminating.
My money is on Ginny Thomas
Yes. So many big, unanswered questions.
They have an underground a bunker Trump was President at the time Trump was sworn in why would he send buses
@@speakeasy911yeah she coulda probably offered Clarence Crowe's, I mean Clarence Thomas's RV
I'm sure there are tunnels they could have escaped through.
Please explain to me, a Belgian, how a person who tries to do a coup, is apparently still able to run for President again?!
trump hasn't been convicted of that is why.
IMO he's 100% guilty of it and more, but in terms of law this isn't settled
As an American i would also like to know.
When somebody finds the answer to this, please let me know! Whatever it is...it's corruption!
Even as an American It bugles my mind 🙈
The government and justice system us f.o.s.
I have to give credit to everyone there who understood what was happening and refused to leave.
Agreed. Must give VP Pence credit for knowing he had a job, as VP; and was the President of thr Senate to officially count thr electoral votes.
Last minute choice. Pence knew the plan all the way....needs to be charged for his part
Mike pence is NO hero here …he should have followed through the next day and the days after with the truth and nothing but the truth …he owed that to the American people …he does not deserve to get near a Presidency or any other elected position …ever !
@@bernieornelas5368It's a good thing he didn't leave, among others. If someone trying to break into your property, are you going to flee or fight.
so then if he had left orange jebuz foot soldiers would have check mate pelosi and everyone in there? and when i say check mate i mean killed some of them?
Chilling. I wish all Americans would watch this.
I said this from the first time I heard about his refusal to get in the car.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
Both sides of the argument will upvote this comment. One directed towards trumps rhetoric, the other directed to fake news.
@@choiceillusionexactly! Fox needs to end their propaganda channel. They do nothing but spread fake news, lies, and get racist thugs to act out.
@@choiceillusionThree sides. I choose to direct that quote to the Pope and to organized religion as a whole. There isn’t any other group I know of pushing more absurdities than the religions.
Charles manson!!
@@Dropdead313Idi Amin, Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite & Bonnie Lu Nettles, Keith Rainere as well among many others.
The secret service being used for political gains sends chills down my spine.
Not the first time... They did so with Kennedy, and we all know how that turned out.
Agreed! If they can be persuaded by Trümp, who/what else could persuade them?
Not vetting their agents at least every 6 months. This is dangerous.
Trump Administration rotted on all levels available (including using Barr & DOJ for his own personal agenda until Barr's final refusal to not act on Trump's behalf also)
Secret service needs to be investigated and purged of trumpers.
I wouldn't get in the car,would YOU ?!!
Excellent to point this out. Many need to understand this point.
Exactly 👍
Those who need to hear it either won’t, or will call it a falsehood.
And yet, he is very silent currently. He still holds a ton of info that would help the American people and says nothing to protect our democracy, now, when it is needed most.
He’s probably afraid for his life and family. Trump acts mob-like.
He’s afraid, that’s why. He’s always been a spineless jellyfish.
He saved himself & did his duty; he might not side with Trump again but he's absolutely still party over the people.
He’s still a big boy in the republican cult of money worship…
He needs to spill on everything to keep Trump from anything else.
How, just how can trump not be locked up for treason already? 😬
MSDNC Always focused on Trump, never reports on the disasters of Joe, and the Dementia we see daily from Joe or the crimes on hunters laptop confirming 10% for the big guy.
@@flock9487 why don't you go back to grazing on the grass.
@@flock9487 Tell us how he isn't... Start watching the video, then pick one of thousands of others that tell the same story.
Ah because you are not told half of what staged bs happened that day. Evidence? Pelosi has blocked investigations, footage and transparent inquiries into the full events of that day.
@@flock9487 Trump incited a riot toward the capital to stop the counting of the ballots. The House of Representatives have to approve the ballots of the presidential election so by attacking the capital that would in Trumps eyes stop the counting of the ballots and he would stay in office. Treason is an act against the country so attacking the capital is attacking his own country.
If he had gotten into that car, he was dead, and he knew it.
This is one of the most important points that should be addressed by every person in America.
I believed he feared for his life, if he were to get into that car. Honestly, I did.
Likely. Now they're trying to portray it as an act of heroism
Coward
@@manacoromandel8026 There were a lot of heros that day fending off Insurrectionists. Pence didn't wimp out... He refused to leave. Watching the real videos and watching the under oath testimonies in the January 6 committee hearings has shown that was a violent Insurrection. That took great courage to stand his grounds, and all the others, too. I will NOT vote trump again.
I agree.
Pence indicated that he did not trust the driver either but I only heard that testimony once. I think he was worried he’d be killed if he left. Smart man.
The fact that Pence actually did the right thing by refusing to leave, tells me/everyone, that he already knew what trump had planned!
EXACTLY !!!
NOW is the time for DOJ Merrick Garland to do his job!!!!!!! 💙💙💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
**No one** trusted trump, ESPECIALLY those that had to spend time in his administration.
@@plantmaster3339 Gutless garland, the pity appointment, do his job, what is your next joke.
@@plantmaster3339 Oh Garland is doing his job, have no doubt about that. He was in charge of the Oklahoma City bombing and there were NO LEAKS during his investigation, nothing was heard until the indictments, and there were no overturns on appeals. Garland sent Timothy McVeigh to his death, and Terry Nichols was sentenced to life in prison without parole. We haven't heard anything because that's the way Garland wants it. He has, however, given clues, and the most recent one was the state of New York asked for some documents on trump and DOJ denied them, stating it would affect a current investigation.
One day I hope we find out what the Secret Service deleted from their communications
Russian and Chinese probably know
They have ears everywhere
What else could it possibly be you know what it was No outher reason could be possible or sensible .. did someone just come up with a rope or was it permeated was the chanting hang mike pence random or prearranged all the more reason to evacuate him far from the capital maybe never to return he knows but can’t say because only god know what he has on him besides this is a man with a family who know his secrets more the anybody anyways it will be a good movie one day
If Pence had left then he may not get back to validate the votes. Staying put was key to staying in power- good for him.
Precisely.
Chuck Grassley said that Pence wasn't going to be there so he was going to be presiding over the vote, scary. I don't like pence but here he did right
if he had got in that car he may not have exited alive
Or maybe there was some Drumpfster goons inside ready to take him for “a ride” .
May not? Or. Would not have been permitted to do so... would have been prevented to do so on order of "45" or staff supporting the insurrection for "45"?
All this time I’ve been wondering why the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT hasn’t come for these secret service agents??!!!!
Suspect this is just the way it works with certain departments (??)
They will, going for the head of the snake first
The evidence was very efficiently destroyed. Did you miss the news about the "MULTIPLE MONTHS -WORTH OF SECRET SERVICE EMAILS AND PHONE RECORDS LEADING UP TO 1/6 THAT (SOMEHOW ACCIDENTALLY)WERE DELETED."
Huh ? That makes no sense .
Bc...it's a secret
If we make it another hundred years, this is going to look insane. I truly hope we get our education systems overhauled because this part of history will be so confusing, it'll cause the children to cry.
This is the history that needs to be Banned from schools. Bring back the real history.
@@kimberlybrowder3700 You're part of the problem
@@kimberlybrowder3700 No REAL history should EVER be banned!
The Truth must always prevail.
And fRump is the biggest scam artist to have ever lived. (that's being as nice as I can just for RUclips and sensitive ears.)
69-year-old American veteran here. Vote💙
@@firstlast-tp7zo Attendance has been mandatory since 1895.
"I'M NOT GETTING IN THAT CAR" (EPIC)
Whoa, this is nauseating. The people behind this coup must be prosecuted.
If they were black, they would've all been charge and sentenced by now.....only in AmeriKKKa.
They will not .. they are not black ppl
Soon and very soon trump meadows mtg gatez and those other traitors😍🥰😇🙏
Don’t believe all the media hype. We are being played from both sides.
Hung* make them all the examples they so desperately wanted.
He didn't get into that car because he didn't know what would have happened to him if he did. He knew he couldn't trust Trump.
Donnie on the podium demanded that Mikey should comply with the constitution which the latter did. So now why is Donnie keeps crying like a baby?
@@balloney2175 because he is a spoiled child dressed up as a man
I have a feeling he was just as terrified of his protectors as he was of the mob🤨
@@jack66648 this part!!! This is what I thought this report/video was going to be about.
Yeah, right. Like they were going to harm him. This isn’t Russia. He was a worthless Vice President.
Also what has happened to the "distruction " of the phone records . ACCIDENTLY on purpose .
This was an eye opener for me. Thank you.
I think the utmost important reason Pence didn't get in that car isn't being said. He most likely suspected that if he got in, he would not get out of it alive.
That part.
Pence should have delayed the results of the election until they investigated the ballet harvesting was investigated ,all the swing states went red but Trump lost you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out , sure his life ,family were all at risk had he done that , he was a wimp !
Mark Short is wrong. Seeing the cars is not the thing. I N COUP leaving the capital meant loss of control.
Ornato is loyal to the RUMP. He told Kellogg that SS were moving Pense to Andrews.
My thoughts exactly.
Mike Pence did the right thing. He protected democracy. He is not the one facing prison time. I have more respect for him than Donald J Trump. He is too dangerous to bring him back ever again. He showed his true colors on 1/6/2021.
Let's pray more people feel like you!
Yes!
Long before then. People just didn't want to believe it.
Neither of them should ever hold office again but yeah... Trump is certainly the primary driver of the Jan 6 coup attempt.
Orange?
He took his duty seriously that day. Why does he not come out now and make it clear that the danger is not over?
He's Pence.
He deserves just a little bit of extra credit for doing his job under those conditions. Other than that, he needs to come clean with everything he knows and the entire corruption that went on while he was in office with that monster. That very well could have been a plan of his boss to get him in that vehicle to get him out of there. I would almost bet my life on it.
Omg. So, why is Pence not talking? If he wants to do something great for America and leave a positive legacy, he needs to talk now.
Maybe he feels he better stay silent until he knows democracy has survived.
He does not want to be "Putined".
Sometimes discretion is the better choice unless you enjoy looking over your shoulder constantly.
He is waiting for 2024 Presidential election results.
@@RinrvUSA Yep, he's scared to death of the Trump cultists as is every Democrat, the Never Trumpers and the gutless attorney general.
I assume he's worried about the "Hang Mike Pence" crowd getting re-energized and finding his family.
Then the secret servive wiped all the phones. So the question still hangs in the air. What were the instructions on the phones.
My first thought, when I heard what Pence said,about not leaving: was that he didn't trust them and was afraid they would take him,God knows where Pence used commonsense, because he knew what they were planning and refusing to play their game, he knew that they were ready and willing to make him disappear.He knew who they were, what they were planning and the length they were willing to go to keep the orange man in power. In this case, I will say:"thank you Mike Pence".
This reminds me of the BBC version of Robert Graves's "Claudius" in the episode where Caligula's assassination makes Claudius his successor as Emperor. When the Senate seems to object, he tells them it wasn't his idea, complain to the armed men behind him, the Praetorian Guard.
In this instance Pence seems to have understood where his loyalty properly lay.
Except that Caligula was dead, and it seems the boss of the Secret Service guard may have been a supporter of the Traitor Trump.
God talk to him
I bet that in the coup planning Pence was told hey look, you will leave capt during siege and let Grassley certify the fake electors. But decided nope he wasn’t going to do this. For the certifying election was his last VP act, and had more power at that time than Trump at that moment.
I am not a Pence supporter, but thankfully for democracy he had the presence of mind not to leave. Thank you Mike Pence.
I'd love to hear exactly what proof there is of trump breaking any law or racism I'm honestly asking how do you believe this stuff I'm open to being convinced otherwise that's if you can keep it civil and actual proof not feelings or emotions or even speculation.
@@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian , troll.
@@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian
@@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian proof of breaking the law is difficult when the most damning proof is open to interpretation. and some of the interpreters are the criminals themselves.
Trump's traitors knew what he wanted. They were discussing online the violence that would occur on 1./6 .
Trump did nothing to cool the crowd he pushed the crowd telling them they should fight and that the government was being taken away from them. he had a war room assembled at a hotel keeping in close contact with the rioters.
The most telling thing is trump did not stop the riot the minute he went on TV and told the villains to stop they did but he let the riot go on for 6 hours before telling the people to stop. Also trump through his loyal secretary of defense refused to mobilize the national guard it was not until pence gave the order that any National guard unit responded.
@@Ron_swanson_true_libertarian you've got to be f****** kidding for one thing pints could not overturn the election he is simply a figurehead in the Constitution gives nobody that power nobody at all he said he would not golf that was a lie he said he would give me Healthcare in his first two weeks that was a f****** life he said he would give us infrastructure that was a f****** lie he said that Mexico pay for the wall that is a f****** lie he said that there were airports in 1776 and that's a lie so do you want me to keep on going you think he's God don't you and you're going to pay for that
Every one who had some thing to do with this should be held accountable. They SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
Everyone involved, in some sort of just world, would spend the rest of their lives in prison.
At the LEAST be removed from office. This is treason.
@@funnysings3604 100% and as soon as possible! Enough is enough!
Very well said
You got nothing. What are you going to do if Trump is right and there was corruption in the vote.
I still want to know who built that gallows. They had to have fore knowledge to get the lumber and tools to the scene. Who knew this information, planned, and built that gallows? These were insiders to the plot.
This assumes wrongdoing on the part of Secret Service agents, which presumably would have its own legal ramifications.
There is an even darker reason Pence might have refused to go. Trump had made it clear that if Pence failed him, he would get even. Getting in a car sent by the leader of a coup, a leader who is angry at you already, might be a one way trip. At least at the Capital he wouldn't be alone. (He couldn't know who Trump had corrupted, so feared the worst.)
Anyway, it's just another thought.
This is probably the best explanation for why he would use those exact words. I’ve used them myself when I’ve felt threatened.
I thought of that, but if Pence knew the Secret Service agents, he would know that they were loyal. The Secret Service would no way take such an order from any President.
Good point. Pence might have rationally thought that getting in that car was the last thing he would ever do.
Agree
Trump really needs to go away…
Thank you Chris!! I knew Oronato was complicit from the start, this clarification is 🗝️🔑key‼️
"I'm not getting in THAT car", yeap-- THAT should be the new repetitious statement for 2023, right there.
I truly believe Pence was afraid for his LIFE if he got in that car. He knew exactly what was going on and he knew Trump and his Chums wanted him out of the way.
Correct. People think Mike Pence made this brave gesture to ‘protect democracy’ when in fact he was protecting his own life and the lives of his family by refusing to get into the car.
That's what I'm thinking. Pure self-interest. What if the Secret Service had just dropped him off in the middle of the crowd? Those fine people would have torn him to pieces, or really used the gallows they built.
It's all very Goodfellas, isn't it?
Yep, Pence knew how easily & quickly the Shadow Gov. eliminated the Kennedys!
YUP
“... if you’re not, I’m going to be very disappointed in you.”
This sounds like the words of a mob boss in some Hollywood movie.
Trump ran the White House, as a Cosa nos, Like a mop boss, and that’s who Trump has been, as far as how he runs his corporations, and he wanted America to be run that way, and Putin would’ve had his man finally in the White House. Putin right now is running the Ukraine war, hoping that the American people vote back in Donald J Trump, this is why all those red states, and their state politicians are trying to change the way people vote in those states, by changing those Mabs, and favoring those states for Trump.
Oh! But what would Putin say (or do)? Let us not find out!
I would have said, more like a tiff in a playground of 5 year old's.
No, a mob boss would have backed up his threat. The Orange guy is just a weak turd, like his followers.
"It would be a shame if something was to happen to yous...." is supposed to follow those words....
Knowing there were Gallows set up out there & hearing the chants of Hang Pence it seems is enough to stop him from leaving. Add that & his possible distrust for Trumps secret service on to his expressed reasoning & it seems like a clear choice to stay. I can't imagine any VP being betrayed by their boss in broad daylight on every news station globally not being weary.
I've heard another reason.... He didn't trust his detail to bring him back and that that senator would have actually overturned the election.
@ElizabethLizziBennett33, Yes, that's the reason Pence himself gave, except he said he was afraid he wouldn't "get back in time" to count the ballots. I know there's a deadline on counting them, don't recall what it is or what happens then, maybe goes to House of Representatives, which is what Trump wanted bc Repubs have majority there. I'm not surprised some people think, or maybe Pence did, too, that his life was in danger if he let SS take him away from the Capitol.
Anybody think Mike was afraid Donnie put a Secret Service hit an him? I don' t think so, but Mikey might have thought it.
The man was afraid for HIS LIFE. Surely I’m not the only one who sees that.
And Even if he was afraid for his life, he Stood up to his Responsibility to us, (We The People), to protect our votes on the the choice (We the People) made to elect our Now PRESIDENT.this
Soooò many Were Afraid on THAT day, and too many died!
How many died cause you will sew what you reap .darkness will not be cast over terra 3
He was not. You guys are laughable.
You are not, read the comments.
The Speaker can't scrub all the videos out there..keep airing them
I’m telling you he knew the danger
leaving with that secret service detail assigned to him . Maybe self preservation?
OK, if this is true, kudos to Pence-but why didn’t he speak out-immediately, loudly, and clearly-against Trump and what he tried to do?
The US government has assassinated people for less.
He don’t want to get knocked off but all darkness will come to light 🤲🏽
Because thats how trump loyalists end up in jail. He played the smart move.
He don't have the balls, he saw what happened to those who testified against him
I can't remember the exact words, but when announcing the confirmation of the ballots he did put in a twist to make clear that these were the real ballots or something like that.
Do not like Pence at all but, but I agree, he did show leadership and I actually do understand his thinking... Gallegos was so spot on in his thinking as well.. I think it was much more dangerous if they left.. Great thinking in a time of fear..
He was a lap-dog for 4 years and he grew a spine on the last few days of his office? He still was Drumps biggest enabler and yes man.
It's called "Instinct to survive" that kicked in.
Still so upsetting. Our legislators running from the rooms where the election was to be sanctified. I was afraid for their lives. I was afraid for our country. Still have fear. Our legislators still afraid for their lives.
I've said from the beginning that his assertion was about appearances was BS- he knew the would spirit him away and he might disappear.
The Secret Service needs to be investigated.
That’s the understatement of the year. 3 years.
The Praetorian Guard comes to mind. That should terrify us all.
Seeing as how so many insurrectionists were law enforcement and (ex) Military, vetting everyone for possible reclassification of security clearances would be a positive step for cleaning up government.
Don't forget...the Secret Service was complicit in the assination of President Kennedy
..
Scrubbed their comms
Mike Pence was the only presidential image in that administration even if only because of how he conducted himself in the discharge of his duties that day.
You can't be serious. Just because he says batshiz crazy crap with a furrowed brow & weighted tone you think it's not BS. Man, how quickly people forgets he was a yes-man for ALL of Trump's worst instincts.
Presidential? Pff, only if you like people lying to your face.
Yeah, right!
Yes, on that single day ONLY.
Pence knew that tRump should not be the President and he had 4 years of proof..... He had to do the right thing for the United States of America and himself... enough is enough.... Wow it came this close to losing our country to a dictator.... How is CPAC going to install a fascist Government from this day forward , if we think for one moment that the Orange fruit acted alone on this Coup D'Etat .... well then we are fools ... this coward would not go to vietam for this country .... he is not standing alone in his attempt to install a dictatorship here..... he is a puppet for CPAC and who are these people?
I still wouldn't vote for him, but he did the right thing Jan 6. He was completely wrong all the way up to Jan 6, but at least he wised up when it counted.
He was probably afraid of a bomb in the car... thump is mafia as we have all seen.
They were going to take him to a "secure location", "for his safety".
Everyone knows what that means.
they take them to get interogated by the lizard people?
Would have been a mysterious death had he gotten in the car.
@@DarkShroom ☠️☠️☠️👍👍
He probably would have woken up long enough to see Hoffa!
Down to the train station…Yellowstone.
It would only take one Trump loyalist in that car with Pence, on his security detail, to bring about a state funeral for him. That’s how disloyal subordinates are made into glorious martyrs in coups all over the world.
Those six words may have saved his life.
Exactly! I wonder how he got the idea they might want him dead? Who actually erected the gallows? Who began "Hang Mike Pence" chant?
Very possible imo
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that was exactly what i heard early on, that Pence did not trust the driver.
Amen. 🙏
Think I remember @NicoleWallace implying this eery scenario a day or two later.
One of the many reasons I love her ❤️
It occurred to me that he might have feared for his life, not just a flight to Alaska.
Pence didn't say "I'm not leaving the Capital". He said "I'm not getting in THAT car". That was the point. It was the car that trump arranged.
Yep, THAT CAR containing a hidden BOMB?????
Trump is a criminal needs to be put away locked up and never let out
@@jimrich4192
Your speculation is not useful.
A bomb? No, it would’ve drove him to the Jimmy-Hoffa-Resort for enemies of the mafia never to be seen again.
@@jimrich4192👈 Ruskis and their misinformation
I've not been a fan of Mike Pence, but this time I give him much respect. This makes me wonder however, what else do we not know?
Because he is a real Republican. The Trump supporters today are ReMagaKlans.
Think about it
Well now we know the fbi was involved and so was the secret service....
Agreed Wendy - I never knew why he wouldn't leave, but respected his decision not to support tRump. Now, I have a second thing to respect, if what Chris is saying is true. ... but then my brain says "you believe a Republican ? The party of liars ? .... In this case, I will hope Pence's religious upbringing is coming through, and not his party's penchant for saying anything.
Sad that the bar is "because Pence did his job". (And of course Trump is like some psycho ex-employee with a vendetta against their employer.)
Frankly we knew this for some time if you were paying attention.
Whoever was in his car, needs to be investigated.
Is youtube really citing Wikipedia as a source?
They talking about the secret service detail ….. that is scary.. what about their oath.. we screwed folks..
Yup
We are becoming a fascist country and no one is trying to stop it. The left and Democrats are cowards. We are screwed indeed.
Trump has to have loyalists in the SS. Those 15 boxes of documents didn't carry themselves out of the White House. Fingerprint them and you'll know Trump didn't carry them out either.
All of this apparent SS corruption makes sense when one remembers that 'TFG' is always trying to force everyone in his orbit to be loyal to him ONLY! Frankly he should be locked up!
They have fascists in their ranks just like the police have always had.
Wow. “I’m not getting in that car.” Pence knew he wasn’t going to be EVER coming back.
Yeah I'm not sure how they're trying to spend it now but up until this video I definitely took that as Pence feeling threatened by his own security detail
The secret service has long been corrupted.
@@WarrenHolly I don’t necessarily agree with you. How long?
@@winkieblink7625 since before the jfk murder. The first black Secret service agent was hired by the president. Check his story. I believe he's still alive. I will get his name real quick. Brb.
@@winkieblink7625 Abraham Bolden.listen to his story and tell me what you think. Please 🙏🏾
Exactly 💯 right
Well reported. ThankU. And I'd like to say,, ThankU Mr Pence.
Shout out to Mike Pence who remembered what his momma taught him about not getting into cars with strangers and saved Democracy.
LMAO
LOL!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@justsaying3729 🤣😂🤣😂
Plus there where no little kids to snack on
I don’t get into cars with people I don’t know either!!
8:04 "I'm not getting in that car, until we count the electoral college votes." Pence's words reported by Raskin.
Mike Pence, in this moment, was a hero.
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.”
Romans 5:3-5 NIV
Did he not realise in the moment that it was the only way to shut down an increasingly unhinged Trump and so end the nightmare?
Thank God he didn't leave we be under fake Government NOW WARS ITS INSANELY UNBEARABLE THAT WORLD COME SO CLOSE TO BIGGEST KOO
I KNOW IN MY LIFE TO BE CAUGHT OUT THANKS PEOPLE LIKE PENCE because he Was only there to SEE it FAILED PUT HIS LIFE AND HIS FAMILY'S ON LINE TO STAY AT ALL COST..
@@benjaminaviles1388 HE is a HERO
I'm no brain surgeon, but after hearing "hang Mike Pence" and seeing a gallow (if he did) I wouldn't have gotten in the car either. Plus, he didn't know that they'd even bring him back to continue what he needed to do that day!!
Because he was no fool. He knew when he did his job that Trump had already started up outside and was not going to put his life in danger for a sore loser.
And then there's the thought that maybe Pence didn't get into that car because he was literally afraid for his life.
Right.
you know Better: trøn had buses to spirit away EVERYBODY. it was a coup, dearie .
More like it from a desperado
@@ColinoDeani yup
He didn't want to aid and abet the insurrection and his leaving, since he likely would not have been allowed to return, would have put him in that position -- he knew what was going on
The secret service guys driving that car are also the same secret service guys that erased their phones!
Trump and his inner circle needs to run and find a new Zip code
Not USA
@@markeithwhitaker409 Greenland...No, probably Saint-Petersburg.
@@FirewindII It depends. Russia's getting pretty sick of Putin and his war, it seems. It's not fun to go die fighting people you don't hate for the ego of a rich old man.
@@SavageGreywolf A prediction: Looking at the particular destruction in Ukraine, this winter they will see a siege that will be up there with The Siege of Leningrad...the reason Russia is conscripting men of any condition,
Considering how many members of the mob Trump has done business with in the past, it wouldn't surprise me if he picked up some of their tactics.
A “Coup”? More like a protest
My thoughts the first time I heard this was that it would be more dangerous for him personally! ?
No one covered the fact that Charles Grassley REP. Iowa said he was going to oversee election results bc "They" didn't expect Pence to be there. Why? And who are "They"? And why didn't "They" expect Pence to be there? So many questions not asked of Grassley directly on the news.
Theyre only hiding the truth? From the gen public.
Everybody else knows. They just dont want the constituents, the *voters, to know....
Vote all previously elected pols out
Take back our power.
Voting a straight blue or red ticket? Is basically communism. We need this crazy 2 party system to make our system of govt work. Vote em OUT.
But pls do vote.
Mmm. There's quite a bit that they're still trying to keep hidden from us mere constituents.
Which *if* we get to know it all? Is liable to make some folks want another Jan6, but this next go round? They'd want to be front n center. Americans dont much cotton to traitors and, if they'd figure out what congress had planned for them? Along w bush2 n Cheney family? Would not bode well for congress.
And we do have some good ppl in there. I think they're trying real hard right now to use that ol' cloak of invisibility trick ;)
Yes,who are they?
They played it smarter than we thought. Secret service need arrested and dissolved
Aguilar said “If Proud Boys had got hold of Mike Pence they would have killed him. That was Speculation and Auto Suggestion. This is an Inquiry not a Court Case. Bobby Powell stopped people from going in. Because it was a Set Up. Now they are trying to have Bobby Powell killed. Look at the footage again properly , independently of speculation and auto suggestion .
Every Secret Service agent directly involved with protecting Trump or his family, needs to be unfrocked and investigated. You notice Biden had the whole protective detail replaced.
Let FBI investigate them all. Pull FBI and 8th and I Marines and 3rd Division Soldiers to fill the gaps for now.
.I don't think the whole "Service" is corrupt.
Maybe not the entire Secret Service, but certainly a large number of them.
@@janetritchie7499 The plants, at least.
Cant u get your message out without SCREAMING. My gosh i had to turn my volume down. I was sitting on my patios has to make a mad dash to turn the volumn. Crazy
I have never held Pence in very high regard - but it turns out that his actions of standing up for what was right (according to the Constitution) played a critical role in upholding our Democracy. Regardless of other differences of opinion and political perspective - Thank you Mike Pence.
Agree 100% love him or hate him he will go down in history for being a hero and a man of honor on that day. On the other hand, I believe Trump will go down as the worst president in history.
You're absolutely right. He's absolutely not my favorite person but what he did that day played a part in saving our democracy. Thank you, Mike Pence
I was going to voice this exact sentiment. Thank you, Steven. As a liberal in a state adjoining Indiana, I was aware of Mike Pence long before he became VP. He persecuted the LGBTQ community in his state, pushed for religion where it did not belong. Thankfully, when it came to upholding the US Constitution and his oath of office against the bullying of the Trumpists, Mr. Pence deserves full credit for following the law and protecting our democratic form of government.
Honestly though, 'not letting mob rule win' is a pretty low bar.
I see it as putting out a fire you were a huge part of starting. All he did was move to correct his mistake a little. I havent heard him speak out to prevent it from happening again except that one, forgotten time.
Mike pence is no hero, and his actions on jan 6th were no where near heroic.
He didn't leave because he didn't trust the secret service.
Oh yes, you got it so right. Keep your heads on.
I think Mike deserves a Profile in Courage Award!
United States Constitution: 14th amendment, article 3:
“No person shall hold any office civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath to support the constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or giving aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@Itsrainingcatsyall Rebellions should be dealt with the way they traditionallly, line them up against the wall.
@@johnfarrelly4753 as the saying goes, unless they succeed
Trump is guilty of both.
Fact that it was that close, in this country, is horrifying. And a harbinger
History in the making, for sure.
Trumplethinskin didn’t have the balls to do any harm. He’s all mouth and no spine, in other words, a weak coward.
Next time they will make it real.
And now USA CIA has a Zionist puppet strongman in Ukraine leading up a proxy war against Russia. Lollollollollol
@@johnjepsen4243 Ukraine did not attack Russia. Russia is on Ukrainian territory killing Ukrainians. How does this fit into the picture you have in your mind? "Zionist" president lured Russians here or something?
He knew the driver would be instructed not to return. Only very dim journalists did not yet find that out before. Congrats,you win the prize.
I wish the like button had a ❤️button. This is one of the most important analysis of events that I have seen. Well done Mike Pence.
Instructor in a personal defense course...
"Never let them take you to a second location. That's where you end up dead."
In my class it was, don't let them get you in a car or trunk. It's over if they do because your life is fully depending on nothing. You only control breathing at that point.
Yes. Better to fight and die before getting in the car.
That was my first thought.
Trump's assassination team to take Pence out and make it look like an accident..
@@SylviaAG and how are they transporting you to that 2nd location genius?
He didn't trust his Secret Service detail and I don't trust Mike either, but he did his duty as the VP.
Everyone knows don't let the attacker take you to another location.
I agree with you but he is not a hero, or a patriot either .
No he certainly did not...
@@teresitauy3692 Really! He upheld the constitution, does that not make him a patriot? The people who tried a fascist coup are not the patriots!
How is waiting until the mob torches liberty doing his job?
Wow. Thank God we had some people with backbone on the side of Democracy
PEOPLE. YOU HAVE. TO SEE. IT. Its very hard to believe
I think all of those secret service agents involved in this incident should have to testify under oath as to what their orders were, and who gave them the orders. this whole mess sounds like something out of the Russian playbook.
TRUMP'S bbf.
Look into Bill Browder and his interactions with Trump&friends pre-presidency. There’s very good reason to believe that Trump has/had an immediate Russian $$ reason to do everything he did.
Well, as Eric Trump said (being the genius that he is), "Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.’” It now seems that Putin is all done with Trump. I guess that means no penthouse in the Moscow Trump tower (Like Putin ever really cared about that!).
That's because it is! It's becoming more and more clear that many things that have happened over the years were being directed by Russian agents. It sounds cliched, but the signs are all there.
Hear, hear!
It appears VP Pence finally made an executive decision by upholding the constitution. Nice to see after four years of listening to a Narcissist.
Pence is not void of accountability he too is a coward and liar 4 yrs of hiding behind his so called Christian values God will hold him especially accountable 😍😇🥰🙏
Self preservation. 'Nuff said
Standing up for the good of the country is exactly what Pence did.
I abhor Pence and everything he stands for but on that day, he truly put country before party and even his own safety and I cant help but respect that.
I agree with you Polar.
YOU GOT IT .
Yes and no… Pence knew he was safer in the Capitol. He knew that he risked being assassinated by Trumpanzees otherwise… SS agents would have put him in his limo and he’d be a goner, they would have never found his body.
So why isn't pence screaming of everything he knows. He can tell the maga people the truth some will listen hard core will never listen
The problem is that Pence only made a stand that one time.
Trump and his cronies have continued to push the Big Lie, and Pence is saying nothing to counter this.
That's because he fears what having to deal with an angry MAGA crowd for the rest of his life would be like.
There will be death threats sent to him, and his family. He won't ever be allowed to attend another Republican Party gathering.
Pence must know what they were planning to do, meaning that he was aware of the plan to illegally overturn the election results.
By remaining silent on the matter (and not giving over what he knows or has of their plans to the Committee) Pence is being, in effect, an accomplice to the crime.
He may have done the correct thing on that fateful day. But let's not forget that he has since done nothing to stop the Big Lie from being spread. In fact he's publicly spoken about trying to re-establish a connection with Trump.
No - It's clear to me that Pence is still guilty of being an accomplice. In fact the longer he remains silent and does not speak out against Trump and his co-conspirators, the less respect he deserves from anyone. Because what he's doing now is shielding Trump and the others.