Hi John .I am an NICEIC contractor. Interesting video .Close to the end you refer to the regs about nuisance tripping and the use of dual rcd boards being not compliant. I took this up with the NICEIC and their take on this is that they are still ok to fit.You have to show that you have made every effort to avoid nuisance tripping by co-ordinating the mcbs .Or clamp the output to show that the leakage current is no greater than 30% 9 mA .They are still ok to fit if this is done.Take care .Love watching youtr videos .Some very educational stuff and also common sense approach .
Thank you, John. Once again I'm struck by the marking of cosmetic alterations to the text as changes. This time double quotes into single. Last time, if I remember aright, there was an *and* that became an and which, for removing the bold, became a notifiable change. Government pays IET/BSI on the basis of the number of changes not by any evaluation of their content. I do wonder if any civil servant looks these over and questions why cheques should be written for essentially nothing.
The markings are made automatically by software in response to the editing process. They should be aware of this and exercise some restraint over purely aesthetic changes.
13:39: ? if a suitable means of isolation is a double pole switch under the fusebord it can't be called a consumer unit - so what, if it ensures safe use of electricity call it what you want. Manufactures appointees seem to be over-represented on many standards committees.
With regard to the split load boards that were sold as 16th/17th edition compliant. Tens of thousands of these boards have been installed over the years by many NIC approved contractors obviously under the impression that they are compliant. If you are saying they are actually not compliant then isn't that mis-selling by the manufacturer? If so why haven't the Trading Standards been involved??
@@JasperJanssen Builder was a cheapskate who cheated on building and wiring regs. Landlord didn't complain because he was the builder. There was worse. A *lot* worse.
That consumer unit regulation seems to have been created by industry lobbyists, so one component fails, you cannot longer buy it and you have to buy a new consumer unit? And how does that work for the DC side of a solar installation? The fuse, the PV breaker, etc, usually we put these in a box, maybe this box is not designated as a consumer unit?
Great video, thank you for doing it. Do you have one which discusses the relevant clause about the requirement for non-combustible consumer units? We are having work done and are getting mixed messages from electricians. Some say yes, some say no...
New consumer units in dwellings need to be non-combustible, which in reality means made from metal. However existing ones do not need to be replaced unless there is some other reason such as it's too small, damaged or needs to be relocated.
@@jwflame Thanks for taking the time to reply John. So unless extra space for new circuits are needed, we have two spare slots, then there is no requirement in the regulations to change it (unless it is damaged, which it is not)?
Just a heads-up on counterfeit versions, I do have one (although a Green 17th) which textually was almost accurate bar some occasional formatting weirdness, the graphs though were wildly wrong (although they looked plausible at first glance) and thankfully I detected this before exam! They definitely do exist!
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Hi John .I am an NICEIC contractor. Interesting video .Close to the end you refer to the regs about nuisance tripping and the use of dual rcd boards being not compliant. I took this up with the NICEIC and their take on this is that they are still ok to fit.You have to show that you have made every effort to avoid nuisance tripping by co-ordinating the mcbs .Or clamp the output to show that the leakage current is no greater than 30% 9 mA .They are still ok to fit if this is done.Take care .Love watching youtr videos .Some very educational stuff and also common sense approach .
Absolutely GREAT to see you back John, with your amazing videos😁👍👍
Hi John, thank you so much for all the work that goes into every video you've created, I am super grateful.
Genius, you take the fear out of it all.
Many thanks for your continued enthusiasm. The effort you go to is an invaluable independent resource for many of us.
Thank you John.. its a relief to hear from the master.. !!
Hello Sir Nice to see you, you have I spired me. Thanks to see you again
Thank you, John.
Once again I'm struck by the marking of cosmetic alterations to the text as changes. This time double quotes into single. Last time, if I remember aright, there was an *and* that became an and which, for removing the bold, became a notifiable change.
Government pays IET/BSI on the basis of the number of changes not by any evaluation of their content. I do wonder if any civil servant looks these over and questions why cheques should be written for essentially nothing.
The markings are made automatically by software in response to the editing process. They should be aware of this and exercise some restraint over purely aesthetic changes.
These videos are an invaluable contribution to the industry. Required viewing.
Looking forward to these John. Awesome
6:05 "an on-hazardous value"? They deleted that note and didn't notice that glaring spacing error?
Thanks John
Great stuff as always! Thanks John :)
Thanks John considered and well presented.
Fantastic video again mr Ward.
Great stuff John
Thanks John...informative as always...
Hi John
With the cost of standard charge for the meter can the consumer provide there own, I have made enquiries but get conflicting information.
1st …Hi John long time no see ….Glad to see you back
I think he’s been waiting for the van to charge up so he could get home 🤔🤨
Thank you 👍
Thanks a lot for taking the time to do this. (Isn't the construction of an escape route pertinent to whether it is a protected escape route or not?)
Top man top info.
13:39: ? if a suitable means of isolation is a double pole switch under the fusebord it can't be called a consumer unit - so what, if it ensures safe use of electricity call it what you want. Manufactures appointees seem to be over-represented on many standards committees.
With regard to the split load boards that were sold as 16th/17th edition compliant. Tens of thousands of these boards have been installed over the years by many NIC approved contractors obviously under the impression that they are compliant. If you are saying they are actually not compliant then isn't that mis-selling by the manufacturer? If so why haven't the Trading Standards been involved??
My rented accommodation is about 15 years old. It doesn't have dual RCD, it has a single RCD.
In 2007? Jesus, that’s backward by European standards.
@@JasperJanssen Builder was a cheapskate who cheated on building and wiring regs. Landlord didn't complain because he was the builder.
There was worse. A *lot* worse.
That consumer unit regulation seems to have been created by industry lobbyists, so one component fails, you cannot longer buy it and you have to buy a new consumer unit?
And how does that work for the DC side of a solar installation? The fuse, the PV breaker, etc, usually we put these in a box, maybe this box is not designated as a consumer unit?
I prefer to buy the cheaper counterfeit version of this book of regs as I don't feel so bad when I use it to light the barbecue.
Great video, thank you for doing it. Do you have one which discusses the relevant clause about the requirement for non-combustible consumer units? We are having work done and are getting mixed messages from electricians. Some say yes, some say no...
New consumer units in dwellings need to be non-combustible, which in reality means made from metal.
However existing ones do not need to be replaced unless there is some other reason such as it's too small, damaged or needs to be relocated.
@@jwflame Thanks for taking the time to reply John. So unless extra space for new circuits are needed, we have two spare slots, then there is no requirement in the regulations to change it (unless it is damaged, which it is not)?
How we can get this book in pdf for free ?
Please any leads ?
Just a heads-up on counterfeit versions, I do have one (although a Green 17th) which textually was almost accurate bar some occasional formatting weirdness, the graphs though were wildly wrong (although they looked plausible at first glance) and thankfully I detected this before exam!
They definitely do exist!
Thanks
Do we need this new brown edition for the 18th edition exam??
Yes, it's always the latest version for exams.
Can I download a soft copy of this publication?
electrical.theiet.org/bs-7671/18th-edition-resources/digital-subscriptions-to-bs-7671-and-iet-guidance/what-we-have-to-offer/single-user-subscription/
You my friend embody everything I love and respect about British men. I’d love to read your biography, please write one.
Is JW a professor of electrical /electronic engineering in disguise?
This man needs to do voiceover work.
When i started I think the 13th Edition was brown. Full circle.
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A lot to read, ridiculous