The 2GR is still one of the best V6 engines you can buy today, with a great balance between power, smoothness, fuel economy, reliability and serviceability.
@@speedkar99 thank you so much for this episode. I’ve got one of these engines. You mentioned to keep an eye on the water pump, but what indication would it give before it suddenly grenades itself?
@@speedkar99 hey man, you might be able to answer this question for me. I hear rumors that the 2gr has the same bolt pattern as the 3vz and 5vz, do you have any insight if I could mate the 2gr to a R-150f trans?
@@PatPetrey I believe you are confused, the GR and VZ are the engine block codes, different blocks different bell housings the R150 will not fit a GR motor. Beyond that the GR when applicable uses transmissions without pilot bearings whereas the R150 needs the input shaft supported by an in crank pilot bearing, so again whatever swap you are considering isn't going to work. More Toyota code info: Using 2GR-FSE as an example 2- engine family series GR-block casting - splitting the heads from the block FE-naturally aspirated heads S-port and direct injection T-denotes turbo Z-denotes supercharged K-denotes atkins cycle engine or modified ottoman cycle
it's worth noting that these engines were used in two lines of the Lotus Sport cars, the Evora and Exige. Slap a turbo on it and you've got a 400+hp beast.
Engines like these are the reason I will not go electric.Agree 100% You can go over 200k with barely doing anything and drive cross country without thinking about it. Some of the best engines ever made. I have a 2arfe as well and that has been so good I'm getting bored of the car cause it just runs with no issues. Great engines indeed.
I just replaced one on a 2005 Avalon and I took off the nuts on the right and front engine mounts to lift the engine. This gained clearance to remove the fan pulley and water pump bolts and pump itself.
Toyota tech here, 100% possible in Camry, Avalon, RAV4, and Highlander. The job used to pay roughly 15 hours since, for a long time, it used to be quoted as an engine-out job, but pay was recently slashed to 6 hours since they found out guys were managing to squeeze water pumps out without pulling the engine. Cool stuff!
Water pump is the only part I've ever see fail on one of these. I've replaced them without removing the engine, & yes, it's a PITA but very do-able. Thumbs up for the vid!!!
One of the best engines ever made with port injection only but Toyota Engineers modified it with 2GR-FKS with both port and direct injection which is the best of both worlds. I have this on my Toyota Venza 2009 V6 AWD and currently has 111,500 miles but still drives like new.
I have two of these beauties. One in a Highlander and another in an RX350. Have 420k mi combined with no end in sight. Also recommend swapping out the oil cooler line for a metal one if you have a rubber one.
Thank you very much for this review,i requested and you humbly delivered🙌🏽 My guys with the 2GR have all flocked here ever since😂😂 Guy,you took a a different path of review that non of the automobile reviewers can never even think of doing,you are surely standing out man🙌🏽🔥long live the legend💯I appreciate you
As a matter of accuracy, the line that is shown at 3:36 is NOT the line that the TSB LSC90k bulletin addressed. That line was always all metal (and is probably why it looks like it has more age on it than the other line shown at 3:47). It is the other line shown at 3:47 that had the rubber portion at the elbow that had the problems, and was upgraded to the all-metal line in more recent iterations of the 2GR-FE. This line with the rubber portion is at the left side of the engine block as you look at the engine from the front of the car, and farther back near the cabin. It's easy to see with a flashlight, and easy to tell if you have the line with the rubber elbow or not. If you do have this engine with the rubber elbow line, you can purchase an all-metal genuine OEM Toyota line for under $50, and the replacement installation takes about an hour and a half.
When it comes to my Toyotas, I prefer fwd, 4 cylinder (no turbo), none cvt. I have one with now 300k miles. About $1800 in maintenance including oil changes and batteries for the past 11 years. I spent almost as much in repairs on an Audi Q5 in one year.
Well of course.......VW/Audi have been notorious for years for electrical issues, and their engineering is, well.....weird. I remember working on an Audi super 90 back in the 80s with its oddball inboard brake rotors. Wise consumers DONT buy Audis
That's a good water pump there. The one with that clover shaped wheel is the updated version with the improved bearing. The round wheel (old style) is the one that's prone to failure. Smart to save that one.
too bad america cant fix their mistakes. they just keep making mostly crap and relying on propaganda in commercials movies and music to sell their vehicles
The oil passages, are designed with so many variables in mind. Oil passages, have to be subject to manufacturing processes. I think Toyota has done a good job on this engine! Now, oil rings carboning up, and sticking, has more to do with NONE top tier fuels being used, plus 10k oil changes, plus non toyota oils being used. Toyota oil, Amsoils, Redline oils, and my fav Pennzoil Ultra are the finest oil to use.
Two years ago I sold an '08 Tacoma with the 1GR which is the bigger version of the 2GR. 112K miles at the time. Only needed conventional oil changes, tires, and batteries for the 9 years I owned it. It had the original timing chain, water pump, cam phasers, serpetine belt, alternator, starter, spark plugs, etc. and ran like a top. Last August I actually found it for sale at a local used dealer in my area with 147K miles. I estimate it has around 200K miles by now. The GR engine WILL last 300K+ miles with regular maintenance and oil changes. I've seen countless examples ranging from Sciennas to ES 350s...
sweet! glad you're doing this one. I've got two of these in my garage: '15 Venza with 95k miles and '16 Sienna with 105k miles. I do basic maintenance on them and I haven't had any problems with any part of the cars. I specifically got those used cars with those model years because I wanted those models and those were the last years (or close to it) that those models had this tried and true v6 before moving on and same thing with the transmission.
Just bought a Lexus ES350 as a half-priced alternative to my Audi A5 after it got written off in a parking lot smash. The ES is a great bargain luxury car, and even at 260,000KMs this has the build and feel that hundreds of thousands of KMs are left in it - unlike the Audi which always felt like something expensive could break at any given moment.
2GR FE in my 2010 RAV4. Great engine. LOT of power for that vehicle. Torque steer When you punch it is scary though. When I bought it, I asked the.mechanics in the shop if there was anything to watch out for....they both said "speed". I totalled my 2009 RAV on a big deer and replaced it with this 2010 LTD.. 177K now. Runs great. Wish the mileage was better though. 20 MPG kinda hurts with petrol at $5/gallon. Thanks for the video. Not a single "umm" or "eh". You know your shit.
I'm glad Toyota is switching to electric cooling pumps. Serpentine driven coolant pumps seem pretty prone to failure just based on the belt pulling on the pump shaft and bearings when tensioned. This uneven force guarantees wear. That's not even mentioning crappy impeller material . This video is a good reminder to pay attention to your coolant temp guage.
As I suspected, It may look like it over heated, but that's just from the factory. They use some kinda induction heat thing to harden the steel there. It's like that on the 4A crank as well.
These new 60° duel overhead cam engines are amazing. Most of them are cranking out anywhere from 270 to over 300 horsepower and are extremely efficient and dependable.
Not very fuel efficient for our lexus RX, but very good power band and seemingly bulletproof. Never had a problem except for a super slow oil weeping from valve cover, less than a tablespoon in the past 3 years.
I had a 2GR-FSE with direct and port injection in my IS350 and a version of the 2R with just port injection I think, now in my 21 Lotus Evora GT. This engine is amazing. When the FSE came out in 05-06 it won the Ward's best engine award IIRC. super smooth and in the Evora sounds like an F1 car! Love it!
I only hear "they improved", so clean etc ... Toyota shows how it has to be done. High quality, no ridiculous, no unnecessary stuff which can break and the IMPROVE instead of reinventing the wheel (we germans love to do everything complicate and unaccessible.. jaaaa 😁)
my favorite variant of this engine was the 305hp 2nd gen is350. fast as hell and well built. someone on youtube did a 2gr swap on the sw20 mr2 and i gotta say as much as i love the 3sgte i would prefer that raw NA power from the 2gr.
Got this engine in my Toyota Blade Master, probably the weirdest car to come out with it. Basically a corolla with this motor stuffed in it. Goes like hell
I guess I did right by listening to my mechanic and replacing the water pump as preventative maintenance. It wasn't cheap, but in hindsight it is compared to a new engine.
@@speedkar99 I have no issues with mine so far. I have 208k miles on the clock. No oil burning or leaks. One thing I’m worried about is the waterpump because I have yet to change that since I got the avalon used at 123kmiles. Which year is the best GS350? Oil consumption issues? I want to buy one in two years…
Oldsmobile division , back in the day would nitride their cranks. Its one reason why they outlasted every other GM divisions engines. Too bad Toyota didnt know how to properly induction harden the valve seats on their 3.0 V-6, they were known for valve seat recession as well as failed head gaskets
The reason why the internals look so clean may be because the owner used Dexos certified synthetic motor oil. It does not create sludge and doesn't stick to the parts.
I'm glad to see that change in the intake manifold. Having done plugs in a 1MZ, I would appreciate it. Thankfully I'm thin enough to fit in there without removing the intake, but it was still tedious.
My 2GR-FE ( 07 Sienna) now running on its 3rd water pump. Luckily Extended warranty covered it. Those water pumps live around 5-6 years then they leak or the bearing goes. I've been through multiple recalls to replace the oil hoses or switch them to metal ones.
Did you change the coolant at all? The coolant turns acidic over time and eats through seals and causes the water pump failure. I have a 2016 Avalon with the 2GR, water pump still going strong fingers crossed
@@speedkar99 the VVT hose was replaced by an updated rubber hose, at that time the full metal upgrade was not available, luckily this rubber hose still holding up. But there are other hoses in the bottom front passenger side, those were replaced by a flex mental pipes.
@@jakeb4962 coolant was replaced each time the water pump was replaced, a third coolant replacement was during a radiator replacement. So, I never needed to replace the coolant by itself.
I had a 2013 RX that has this engine, now my dad is driving it. The water pump started making noise around 12K KM and I replaced it immediately once I am aware of it. The timing cover is also leaking oil, but it's leaking so slowly that I decided not to fix it, as it is very expensive to fix. Overall it's a good engine, except for the few flaws you mentioned.
Yeah. I know its easy and that's why people do it, but I hate when channels just do time lapses for everything instead of cutting to each action which makes it both more concise and easier to understand.
@@speedkar99 Hey, I'm not the first owner but I guess it's either the original or 2nd water pump. Last year the alternator went bad the mechanic told me it's the original part from 2008. Also replaced the original radiator and hoses last year not because it's leaking, just preventive maintenance. Drove 6500 miles in 2 weeks for a great roadtrip and nothing wrong with it.
I replaced the water pump on one of these in a Sienna and boy was that not a fun time. Fortunately there's (barely) enough room in the Sienna if you remove the motor mount bolt and jack up the engine a little, but it was still not a good time.
yeah, that's why I like working on old American V8's. you have to pull the engine and completely disassemble it to get to anything on Japanese engines. They're great, but too complex. I think they actually need to put a secondary oil pump halfway through the system to boost pressure and reduce pressure loss. They're already overly complicated and expensive to build so what's one more component
Its quite sad that aftermarket tuning support for the 2gr platform is so poor. Lexus side is getting better but still very limited to newer models. If you want to boost it'll cost the same amount as swapping a 1jzgte in the Lexus FR platforms. Very sad. No one really makes head reinforcement parts for 2gr either. They just reuse some 3sgte head internals. Why?....These are such fun peppy engines.
So the owner neglected cause he/ she did not change the water pump on time? or because there was some leak from the head gaskets. Sorry for my ignorance, Is that the water pump looks pretty new to me. Also, I have the same engine and love my rav4, except that I see oil leaking on one of the corners. I think I have to replace the gaskets. I replaced the water pump when she was about 80000 miles, the pulley was making a sound. Thanks for the video and for taking the time to upload it. you sound very knowledgeable.
Does anyone know what year did Toyota update the water pump on the 2grfe? I drive a 2016 Toyota Avalon Touring and this is the best car I've ever owned.
Good power bump over MZ series, but much less smooth and gritty sounding. Both engines will last a long time if maintained (maybe a slight edge to MZ for not having to worry about timing chain cover leaks).
Thanks for show and tell. If I’m not mistaken I did not notice steel sleeves in the cylinders. Did they already used PTWA - plasma coating technology on this engine? Do they use it current Tacomas? Thank you.
thats crazy man!!! the engine is like the human body! hundreds of feet of veins/oil galleys/lines thats constantly transporting blood/oil through out the whole body/engine. Now you know why oil changes are so crucial and vital to an engines' lifespan. it would be an awful shame if there were to be a developed clogged/blockage in one of those oil galley/tube/feed.
Amazed at the amount of machining and casting. Kinda wonder the total "carbon footprint" of just one automobile before it is driven by an "owner"? Great tutorial on how that engine works. Thank you
They are not all as complex as that mate , Toyota seems to go the extra mile with their engineering. then again 99.9 % of these castings would be done by cnc , in the numbers these are made in they probably spit out thousands of them in a day with no effort.
It would be interesting to put a straight edge on the heads & block to see how warped they are. Is the 'flatness' always apparent with the naked eye(with straight edge)?
By the way; the hydraulic lash adjuster is also known as an "lost motion assembly." Makes me wonder if the "roller" rocker arm (finger-follower) could be adapted to my 5MGE's valvetrain. I wouldn't be surprised if toyota continued earlier (yamaha designed) geometries into the newer engine.
Not sure what you mean by "but," regardless - yes it looks like the AR series uses the same valve train design. Different lash adjusters, but the exact same rocker arm... man now I want to buy one (a rocker) so I can compare to the 5mge.
Hats off to the GM 3.6 for sticking around as well!!! Given the option, I prefer the power and reliability of a good N/A DOHC V6. They took time, but right when these motors get great, everyone wants 2 liter turbos...
Hey man, I'm a huge fan of your channel and method of presentation. I have a request, if it's not too much to ask. Could you make a video demonstration on how to adjust caster, camber, and toe on the different suspension set ups commonly found on production vehicles? I'd greatly appreciate it. Have a good day. God bless.
Thanks for the request. That would be quite an interesting video showing how to adjust, but the best way would be on an alignment rack. I made 2 videos on how car suspension works explaining what all the angles do if you'd like to learn a bit more on that though. Enjoy
@@speedkar99 see, I know how the different angles work. The thing is there are two main types of suspension as you mentioned here. What I don't understand is how to adjust camber and caster exactly. I never even knew caster was a thing until just recently.
The 2GR is still one of the best V6 engines you can buy today, with a great balance between power, smoothness, fuel economy, reliability and serviceability.
It's good but too bad it's being discontinued
@@speedkar99 thank you so much for this episode. I’ve got one of these engines. You mentioned to keep an eye on the water pump, but what indication would it give before it suddenly grenades itself?
@@speedkar99 hey man, you might be able to answer this question for me. I hear rumors that the 2gr has the same bolt pattern as the 3vz and 5vz, do you have any insight if I could mate the 2gr to a R-150f trans?
@@HS-lt8eu i heard mine on the belt. the bearings on the water pump went it still functioned. covered under warranty
@@PatPetrey
I believe you are confused, the GR and VZ are the engine block codes, different blocks different bell housings the R150 will not fit a GR motor.
Beyond that the GR when applicable uses transmissions without pilot bearings whereas the R150 needs the input shaft supported by an in crank pilot bearing, so again whatever swap you are considering isn't going to work.
More Toyota code info:
Using 2GR-FSE as an example
2- engine family series
GR-block casting
- splitting the heads from the block
FE-naturally aspirated heads
S-port and direct injection
T-denotes turbo
Z-denotes supercharged
K-denotes atkins cycle engine or modified ottoman cycle
That’s one of the cleanest engines I have ever seen. You must have gotten a lot of useful parts out of that engine.
Coolant mixed with oil makes for a great cleaning agent (aside from completing grenading the engine) it works wonders!
this engine is no joke, its actually pretty powerful for its class at around 280 hp or even more, despite being very reliable
FSE has 305 hp
Fse 310hp
Frankestein motorworks got it to 400 whp on a mr2, NATURALLY ASPIRATED. This engine is crazy
@@bestsophat7316lol some came 314 in jdm cars
@@truckingjamaicans5045mark x grmn😍
it's worth noting that these engines were used in two lines of the Lotus Sport cars, the Evora and Exige. Slap a turbo on it and you've got a 400+hp beast.
Slapped a Super not Turbo...
@@Smart-Skippy yeah i know they did that, i was talking about regular people. they can slap a turbo on theirs and pull 400+horses
I have a turbo on my 2gr fe. Over 500whp on 92 pump gas. 650whp on e85. Could be more but id like to see the motor last a while.
Prob the only supercars that are reliable.
@@RyanDohertyRacing What did you use for rotating assembly, kind of curious what the stock internals can handle.
Probably the best engine I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned a lot of them.
Engines like these are the reason I will not go electric.Agree 100% You can go over 200k with barely doing anything and drive cross country without thinking about it. Some of the best engines ever made. I have a 2arfe as well and that has been so good I'm getting bored of the car cause it just runs with no issues. Great engines indeed.
I just replaced one on a 2005 Avalon and I took off the nuts on the right and front engine mounts to lift the engine. This gained clearance to remove the fan pulley and water pump bolts and pump itself.
Nice and easy in a big car. Try that in a RAV4 !
@@speedkar99 I've done it in my Rav4. It looks bad to do but really wasn't that hard. Just lift up the engine a bit once the motor mount is off.
Toyota tech here, 100% possible in Camry, Avalon, RAV4, and Highlander. The job used to pay roughly 15 hours since, for a long time, it used to be quoted as an engine-out job, but pay was recently slashed to 6 hours since they found out guys were managing to squeeze water pumps out without pulling the engine. Cool stuff!
I'm not looking forward to this job on my 2GR Toyota Blade.
The Care Nut has a video demonstrating this job in a Camry. It's tight clearances but very doable.
Water pump is the only part I've ever see fail on one of these. I've replaced them without removing the engine, & yes, it's a PITA but very do-able. Thumbs up for the vid!!!
Timing cover leaks and externally leaking headgaskets are also common
40% of all 2gr-fe have front timing cover leaking oil. It's hard to notice. The engine has to come down to replace. Big $
@@speedkar99they're not leaks they're just seeps through the gasket
If the engine blew a head gasket then it's no wonder it's spotless, it's been getting steam cleaned on the inside.
One of the best engines ever made with port injection only but Toyota Engineers modified it with 2GR-FKS with both port and direct injection which is the best of both worlds. I have this on my Toyota Venza 2009 V6 AWD and currently has 111,500 miles but still drives like new.
They sure are good engines, though a bit complex in their own way.
I have two of these beauties. One in a Highlander and another in an RX350. Have 420k mi combined with no end in sight. Also recommend swapping out the oil cooler line for a metal one if you have a rubber one.
Thank you very much for this review,i requested and you humbly delivered🙌🏽
My guys with the 2GR have all flocked here ever since😂😂
Guy,you took a a different path of review that non of the automobile reviewers can never even think of doing,you are surely standing out man🙌🏽🔥long live the legend💯I appreciate you
I'm glad you appreciate my teardowns! 2GR was long awaited but I finally got my hands on this one.
One of my Favorite V6s ever, they make an awesome sound
They sure are nice motors
I have the 2GR-FSE in my Lexus IS350. It is just amazing !
I have on in my GS350 too
As a matter of accuracy, the line that is shown at 3:36 is NOT the line that the TSB LSC90k bulletin addressed. That line was always all metal (and is probably why it looks like it has more age on it than the other line shown at 3:47). It is the other line shown at 3:47 that had the rubber portion at the elbow that had the problems, and was upgraded to the all-metal line in more recent iterations of the 2GR-FE.
This line with the rubber portion is at the left side of the engine block as you look at the engine from the front of the car, and farther back near the cabin. It's easy to see with a flashlight, and easy to tell if you have the line with the rubber elbow or not. If you do have this engine with the rubber elbow line, you can purchase an all-metal genuine OEM Toyota line for under $50, and the replacement installation takes about an hour and a half.
When it comes to my Toyotas, I prefer fwd, 4 cylinder (no turbo), none cvt. I have one with now 300k miles. About $1800 in maintenance including oil changes and batteries for the past 11 years. I spent almost as much in repairs on an Audi Q5 in one year.
Well of course.......VW/Audi have been notorious for years for electrical issues, and their engineering is, well.....weird. I remember working on an Audi super 90 back in the 80s with its oddball inboard brake rotors.
Wise consumers DONT buy Audis
@@donreinke5863 found the poors
@@michaels4640 Your comment makes no sense..must be an Audi buyer.
@@donreinke5863 checks out 😂
@@michaels4640 found the child
I just recently bought a 2023 Tacoma with the 2GR-FKS and I'm just loving it.
That's a good water pump there. The one with that clover shaped wheel is the updated version with the improved bearing. The round wheel (old style) is the one that's prone to failure. Smart to save that one.
too bad america cant fix their mistakes. they just keep making mostly crap and relying on propaganda in commercials movies and music to sell their vehicles
One of the best V6 engines in the world! These things are reliable to the core
They sure are...of you take care of them!
Nissan’s VQ engines are also good. They made the Wards best engine list 14 years in a row.
Super reliable engine but it took Toyota until about 2016 to figure out FIPG.
@@elonsus9747 I have both haha
Their only weakness: they must have oil and coolant 😂
Brilliant video. You capture the tear down with great insight and speed which keeps your viewer enthralled. Thank you.
You are welcome
The oil passages, are designed with so many variables in mind. Oil passages, have to be subject to manufacturing processes. I think Toyota has done a good job on this engine! Now, oil rings carboning up, and sticking, has more to do with NONE top tier fuels being used, plus 10k oil changes, plus non toyota oils being used. Toyota oil, Amsoils, Redline oils, and my fav Pennzoil Ultra are the finest oil to use.
Two years ago I sold an '08 Tacoma with the 1GR which is the bigger version of the 2GR. 112K miles at the time. Only needed conventional oil changes, tires, and batteries for the 9 years I owned it. It had the original timing chain, water pump, cam phasers, serpetine belt, alternator, starter, spark plugs, etc. and ran like a top. Last August I actually found it for sale at a local used dealer in my area with 147K miles. I estimate it has around 200K miles by now. The GR engine WILL last 300K+ miles with regular maintenance and oil changes. I've seen countless examples ranging from Sciennas to ES 350s...
It sure is a reliable engine if you watch out for the cooling system
Original spark plugs??? Geez they have a 30k interval on the 4.0!
sweet! glad you're doing this one. I've got two of these in my garage: '15 Venza with 95k miles and '16 Sienna with 105k miles. I do basic maintenance on them and I haven't had any problems with any part of the cars. I specifically got those used cars with those model years because I wanted those models and those were the last years (or close to it) that those models had this tried and true v6 before moving on and same thing with the transmission.
Good call. They should last you a while
Smart man!
Great job! Yea idk how I feel about the newer 2GRs. I heard they are burning oil. Meanwhile the tried and true 2GR doesn’t.
Amazing watching you tear down this engine. You’re so knowledgeable. I wish I could spend a few weeks with you to learn.
Solid engine, have it on my 2009 Camry XLE with 176K miles. Regular maintenance only.
Awesome!
Just bought a Lexus ES350 as a half-priced alternative to my Audi A5 after it got written off in a parking lot smash. The ES is a great bargain luxury car, and even at 260,000KMs this has the build and feel that hundreds of thousands of KMs are left in it - unlike the Audi which always felt like something expensive could break at any given moment.
Agreed! I like my dad's ES350 too. Very underrated
2GR FE in my 2010 RAV4. Great engine. LOT of power for that vehicle. Torque steer When you punch it is scary though. When I bought it, I asked the.mechanics in the shop if there was anything to watch out for....they both said "speed".
I totalled my 2009 RAV on a big deer and replaced it with this 2010 LTD.. 177K now. Runs great. Wish the mileage was better though. 20 MPG kinda hurts with petrol at $5/gallon.
Thanks for the video. Not a single "umm" or "eh". You know your shit.
I'm glad Toyota is switching to electric cooling pumps. Serpentine driven coolant pumps seem pretty prone to failure just based on the belt pulling on the pump shaft and bearings when tensioned. This uneven force guarantees wear. That's not even mentioning crappy impeller material . This video is a good reminder to pay attention to your coolant temp guage.
Electric pumps are good but they too have bearings, implellers and electric motors that can fail too...
lol my toyota watepump is going on 18 years and 200k. how very unreliable!!!
the camry xx18 up 4cyl had electric WP
As I suspected, It may look like it over heated, but that's just from the factory. They use some kinda induction heat thing to harden the steel there. It's like that on the 4A crank as well.
Good to know
Still have my 2006 RAV4 with the V6 and runs like a champ.
Rav6 is a sleeper
These new 60° duel overhead cam engines are amazing. Most of them are cranking out anywhere from 270 to over 300 horsepower and are extremely efficient and dependable.
Not very fuel efficient for our lexus RX, but very good power band and seemingly bulletproof. Never had a problem except for a super slow oil weeping from valve cover, less than a tablespoon in the past 3 years.
This, the VQ and the J series are the best Japanese V6s ever made imo
Being a toyota tech, a v6 accord owner, and a former trumpet boy, you're god damned right
@@caud.j30 I used to be a Lexus tech and I own 2 J series Hondas (a 6-6 Accord and a Pilot) lol
@@accordinglyryan mine is a 6 6 aswell! They're incredible cars, mines a 7th gen, but that 244hp feels like 350 behind the wheel of that thing
All good engines. I have teardown videos on all of them, check it out
@@speedkar99 I think I've seen them all, been subbed for a while lol
I own a 2010 sienna that currently has 280k mile and still runs strong
Nice!
I had a 2GR-FSE with direct and port injection in my IS350 and a version of the 2R with just port injection I think, now in my 21 Lotus Evora GT. This engine is amazing. When the FSE came out in 05-06 it won the Ward's best engine award IIRC. super smooth and in the Evora sounds like an F1 car! Love it!
I only hear "they improved", so clean etc ... Toyota shows how it has to be done.
High quality, no ridiculous, no unnecessary stuff which can break and the IMPROVE instead of reinventing the wheel (we germans love to do everything complicate and unaccessible.. jaaaa 😁)
my favorite variant of this engine was the 305hp 2nd gen is350. fast as hell and well built. someone on youtube did a 2gr swap on the sw20 mr2 and i gotta say as much as i love the 3sgte i would prefer that raw NA power from the 2gr.
I too have a 2grfse in my GS350 and love it.
it puts out power equivalent to the V8 offered in the 2nd gen GS
2GR-FKS is the last V6 version, 2GR-FXS similar version for hybrid V6.
Always enjoy your knowledgeable streams.. Great work..
You are welcome
Got this engine in my Toyota Blade Master, probably the weirdest car to come out with it. Basically a corolla with this motor stuffed in it. Goes like hell
So many Toyota models I didn't know existed. Well same goes for all brands!
At 9:23, one big difference between a Toyota engine and VW or German engine is those timing chain guides. Metal on the Toyota and plastic on VW.
Agreed. Many other brands use plastic too, like Nissan
What a gem, I love it!! The engineering on these things are impressive. Love it in my rc350
Why didn't you go for the V8? Haha
@@speedkar99 A couple different reasons but mainly the $26,905 increase.
I have a 07 GS350 with the FSE variant and boy this motor is a treat
I have an 07 GS350 as well. How many km and how has it held up?
@@speedkar99 144K miles and has held out so far slightly burns a bit more oil but I’ll try to switch to Pennzoil Ultra Full Synthetic
@@speedkar99 goal is to eventually find a used IS350 FD of 4.08 I heard it cuts down 0-60 on the GS350
I guess I did right by listening to my mechanic and replacing the water pump as preventative maintenance.
It wasn't cheap, but in hindsight it is compared to a new engine.
Better safe than sorry
Good call
What mileage did you replace it at?
@@chaseharrison2064 at 240000 km
Still love our 2012 Rav4. The 2GR is a great engine. I'd love to flow bench a set of these heads one day. Amazing design.
The 2GR makes the rav4 a beast!
@@speedkar99 tows our 24ft boat with ease.
Awesome!! I love this motor. Makes my Avalon a sleeper
It sure does! I have the Lexus version in my GS350
@@speedkar99 I have no issues with mine so far. I have 208k miles on the clock. No oil burning or leaks. One thing I’m worried about is the waterpump because I have yet to change that since I got the avalon used at 123kmiles.
Which year is the best GS350? Oil consumption issues? I want to buy one in two years…
The "discoloration" on the crank is from the induction surface hardening process during manufacturing.
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Oldsmobile division , back in the day would nitride their cranks. Its one reason why they outlasted every other GM divisions engines.
Too bad Toyota didnt know how to properly induction harden the valve seats on their 3.0 V-6, they were known for valve seat recession as well as failed head gaskets
The reason why the internals look so clean may be because the owner used Dexos certified synthetic motor oil. It does not create sludge and doesn't stick to the parts.
Good working my friend
Thank you 👍
Best engine ever made i have it in my es 350 smooth as butter
They sure are awesome! Love the ES350
I have the -fks variant in my Tacoma. It's still a baby at 150k km, but I'm very impressed with it.
I'm glad to see that change in the intake manifold. Having done plugs in a 1MZ, I would appreciate it. Thankfully I'm thin enough to fit in there without removing the intake, but it was still tedious.
have e 2GR sitting ready to go in y AW11. thanks for this detailed video! definitely doing the water pump now!
Definitely a good idea
First thing I had my friend order after getting the 2gr for his sw20.
That engine is really clean. They changed the oil regularly but probably ignored the antifreeze so the water pump went bad.
My 2GR-FE ( 07 Sienna) now running on its 3rd water pump. Luckily Extended warranty covered it. Those water pumps live around 5-6 years then they leak or the bearing goes. I've been through multiple recalls to replace the oil hoses or switch them to metal ones.
Did you change the coolant at all? The coolant turns acidic over time and eats through seals and causes the water pump failure. I have a 2016 Avalon with the 2GR, water pump still going strong fingers crossed
Should have been only one recall on the VVt hose right?
I've had my GS350 for 6 years and haven't touched the cooling system ... Makes me wanna change the coolant soon...
@@speedkar99 the VVT hose was replaced by an updated rubber hose, at that time the full metal upgrade was not available, luckily this rubber hose still holding up. But there are other hoses in the bottom front passenger side, those were replaced by a flex mental pipes.
@@jakeb4962 coolant was replaced each time the water pump was replaced, a third coolant replacement was during a radiator replacement. So, I never needed to replace the coolant by itself.
I had a 2013 RX that has this engine, now my dad is driving it. The water pump started making noise around 12K KM and I replaced it immediately once I am aware of it. The timing cover is also leaking oil, but it's leaking so slowly that I decided not to fix it, as it is very expensive to fix. Overall it's a good engine, except for the few flaws you mentioned.
Ever considered taking apart a Honda R18A1? The early ones were notorious for water pump failures that cracked the engine block once it overheated.
I have a video on the R18 civic engine with that exact failure. Check it out!
Amazing teardown video love it! Keep it up!
Man wastes no time with the edits, respect.
Thanks. Takes about 2-3 hours to edit from ~150 clips
Yeah. I know its easy and that's why people do it, but I hate when channels just do time lapses for everything instead of cutting to each action which makes it both more concise and easier to understand.
my 09 rx350 with this engine is running strong with 246,000 miles on it
Nice! How many water pumps?
@@speedkar99 Hey, I'm not the first owner but I guess it's either the original or 2nd water pump. Last year the alternator went bad the mechanic told me it's the original part from 2008. Also replaced the original radiator and hoses last year not because it's leaking, just preventive maintenance. Drove 6500 miles in 2 weeks for a great roadtrip and nothing wrong with it.
If I had to guess, I'd say the heat marks on the rod journals are actually from induction hardening.
Now that you mentioned it, yes
I love this guy! His videos are detailed. I wish he was my elder brother.
He'll steal your clothes to use as rags though lol.
@@johnlam2661 lol
I replaced the water pump on one of these in a Sienna and boy was that not a fun time. Fortunately there's (barely) enough room in the Sienna if you remove the motor mount bolt and jack up the engine a little, but it was still not a good time.
oh baby, that's my engine! I love this engine! water pump is the weak point but usually it's pretty bulletproof
Agreed! Good motor just keep an eye on that water pump!
Great video! Glad your neighbor is not tearing down his house this time lol
Lol!
This was filmed before the house teardown
what a brilliant engine, shame about the water pump failure though.
Agreed.... something very simple yet they couldn't get it right
Fantastic presentation by an obvious expert! Thanks!
You are on point with your video. Great job!!!
This channel is very underrated!! 😶
Please share so we can. Spread the knowledge
Love the v6 teardown vids!
Awesome thanks! I have a 3VZ Toyota here to teardown soon!
Awesome video mate, no bullshit, i love it!
You are welcome
yeah, that's why I like working on old American V8's. you have to pull the engine and completely disassemble it to get to anything on Japanese engines. They're great, but too complex.
I think they actually need to put a secondary oil pump halfway through the system to boost pressure and reduce pressure loss. They're already overly complicated and expensive to build so what's one more component
Yes I see your point about the the secondary oil pump....it's quite a complex system they have here
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Its quite sad that aftermarket tuning support for the 2gr platform is so poor. Lexus side is getting better but still very limited to newer models. If you want to boost it'll cost the same amount as swapping a 1jzgte in the Lexus FR platforms. Very sad. No one really makes head reinforcement parts for 2gr either. They just reuse some 3sgte head internals. Why?....These are such fun peppy engines.
I really like the lashless valve train.
Great video. Thank you!
You are welcome
Great video and explanation! Thanks
It’s going to be a sad day when Toyota drops this V6 it is such a strong motor
They already dropped it from the new Highlander, RX, Venza, Crown and Sienna.
Next gen Camry is next...
The 2gr-fks was also put into some more recent toyotas, allowing both port and direct injection
2gr-fse is in the early 2005+ lexus models and has direct and port. the fks has both yes but it also runs on an Atkinson cycle
Yeah that's a more updated FWD version of this motor
So the owner neglected cause he/ she did not change the water pump on time? or because there was some leak from the head gaskets. Sorry for my ignorance, Is that the water pump looks pretty new to me. Also, I have the same engine and love my rav4, except that I see oil leaking on one of the corners. I think I have to replace the gaskets. I replaced the water pump when she was about 80000 miles, the pulley was making a sound. Thanks for the video and for taking the time to upload it. you sound very knowledgeable.
Someone took care of that engine as it looks great inside
Oh ive been waiting for this one
Just for you
@@speedkar99 its a really good one but i prefer the fse varient because of the fwd nightmare of a timing cover
Love Toyotas, I'll bet my money on one any day.
Good cars
Does anyone know what year did Toyota update the water pump on the 2grfe? I drive a 2016 Toyota Avalon Touring and this is the best car I've ever owned.
That's a good question, though by 2016 the 2GR was already out for 10 years
Great video, it's like watch CSI except on engine.
can you do a direct comparison of toyota v6 vs honda v6?
best 60 ° v6 toyota ever made...prove me wrong!
The MZ were also very good engines, simplier and reliable though not as powerful
Good power bump over MZ series, but much less smooth and gritty sounding. Both engines will last a long time if maintained (maybe a slight edge to MZ for not having to worry about timing chain cover leaks).
Agreed. The 1MZ is smoother.
I've heard people say the 2GR sounds a bit "agricultural" and I agree.
Got one in my mr2. Have a noisey water pump. But I probably have to drop the motor to do it.
Ouch
Actually it was the rear line for the VVT system that was rubber.
Not the front too?
The fse varient has metal fuel rails btw
Thanks for show and tell. If I’m not mistaken I did not notice steel sleeves in the cylinders. Did they already used PTWA - plasma coating technology on this engine? Do they use it current Tacomas? Thank you.
I've been paranoid about the water pump but here I am 10 years later 100,000 mi and it still hasn't gone out
thats crazy man!!! the engine is like the human body! hundreds of feet of veins/oil galleys/lines thats constantly transporting blood/oil through out the whole body/engine.
Now you know why oil changes are so crucial and vital to an engines' lifespan.
it would be an awful shame if there were to be a developed clogged/blockage in one of those oil galley/tube/feed.
Amazed at the amount of machining and casting. Kinda wonder the total "carbon footprint" of just one automobile before it is driven by an "owner"? Great tutorial on how that engine works. Thank you
They are not all as complex as that mate , Toyota seems to go the extra mile with their engineering.
then again 99.9 % of these castings would be done by cnc , in the numbers these are made in they probably spit out thousands of them in a day with no effort.
You are welcome. And you are right, if you look at it from a manufacturing and engineering point of view, this sure is a complex engine!
I'm happy that my engine does have aluminum block/heads/manifold
Im happier than my engines are ALL iron over iron.
It would be interesting to put a straight edge on the heads & block to see how warped they are. Is the 'flatness' always apparent with the naked eye(with straight edge)?
No, flatness is measured in thousands of an inch
It's the rear bank oil line which was partially rubber, not the front one.
By the way; the hydraulic lash adjuster is also known as an "lost motion assembly."
Makes me wonder if the "roller" rocker arm (finger-follower) could be adapted to my 5MGE's valvetrain. I wouldn't be surprised if toyota continued earlier (yamaha designed) geometries into the newer engine.
But the newer 2AR and A25 4 bangers have moved towards the roller rockers...
Not sure what you mean by "but," regardless - yes it looks like the AR series uses the same valve train design. Different lash adjusters, but the exact same rocker arm... man now I want to buy one (a rocker) so I can compare to the 5mge.
Hats off to the GM 3.6 for sticking around as well!!! Given the option, I prefer the power and reliability of a good N/A DOHC V6. They took time, but right when these motors get great, everyone wants 2 liter turbos...
Agreed, I prefer the V6 over i4
@@speedkar99 here in oz we had the trd aurion it’s the n/a 200kw engine but supercharged for 240kw
I just subscribed, great tear down. I own a 2007 lexus es350. ***Looks like it will cost a lot to rebuild this engine, right?
I can't get over how clean the top was. Good ol' Toyota (probably maintained by ol' folks) Then killed by it's second owner.
Me too! Clean as a whistle
Hey man, I'm a huge fan of your channel and method of presentation. I have a request, if it's not too much to ask. Could you make a video demonstration on how to adjust caster, camber, and toe on the different suspension set ups commonly found on production vehicles? I'd greatly appreciate it. Have a good day. God bless.
Thanks for the request. That would be quite an interesting video showing how to adjust, but the best way would be on an alignment rack. I made 2 videos on how car suspension works explaining what all the angles do if you'd like to learn a bit more on that though. Enjoy
@@speedkar99 see, I know how the different angles work. The thing is there are two main types of suspension as you mentioned here. What I don't understand is how to adjust camber and caster exactly. I never even knew caster was a thing until just recently.