Fanatec CSL Elite - REALLY worth the EXTRA MONEY over G923?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Your wallet could take a big hit, but... The CSL Elite vs G923 face-off has a clear winner, the only question is can you make it fit your budget?
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:09 - Overview of the gear
2:30 - Build quality and design
6:25 - Installation
7:50 - Software
8:20 - Force feedback and usage
9:30 - Loudness
09:45 - Pedal and shifter
10:50 - Price, conclusion
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#Fanatec #CSLElite #G923 
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8:48 - NEVER LIFT IN SCHWEDENKREUZ! Have you ever been or want to go to the Ring? 😍
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Yes ! no doubt.
Did 2 days at the Ring about 12 years ago in my little MK2 Mazda MX5. It rained most of the time, which was fine by me as it meant that most of the really fast expensive cars stayed in the paddock and I didn't have to look in my mirrors too much! :)
Without watching the video: yes, 100% worth it.
Spot on! 😁
why you need vidoeo's?
923dollars is about how much the Fanatec setup costs but yes lmao 😂.
Thats exactly what I said before the video even started 😂
@@TooManyChoices1 just got a whole setup today, cost me 1700$
"Don't you love, when a hobby becomes an obsession?" No truer words, have ever been spoken.
Unfortunately, I have a couple of those 😂
@@MattsPaddock My too buddy, me too. 😄
@@MattsPaddock never start riding motorcycles, it's even worse when it comes to addiction 😂👍
better yet when it becomes a prefession, or a profitable obsession...
For anybody wondering, this wheelbase witb the universal hub and a NRG 350mm wheel is literally the best dridt simulation ive ever felt. Do not hesitate to get this wheel base if you're a drifter, its fucking incredible
I upgraded from a G920 to a CSL Elite with load cell brake and it's like the difference between listening to music on an AM car radio and listening on an expensive HiFi system. Worth every penny in my opinion.
Good comparison! 😬
Yup. I'm doing it. I already have the V3 pedals.
Lol, no it's not
I wanted to get this setup but fanatec is oversold of everything
I.....have an expensive hifi system specced for high end headphone use.....
so this kinda feels funny to me.
Just about to buy a sim rig that has a full fanatec csl elite setup. This video definitely helped my decision, just not my wallet haha.
The wallet always gets hurt 😂
@@MattsPaddock Knowing me I know that if I went the Logitech/thrustmaster route I would be always thinking about a fanatec situation so thought it would be best to do it right the first time 😂
Love your vids mate got a new subscriber! 🤘
@@inbloom08 Thanks!!
Facts
And remember this fanatec rim is the entry level.
Yeah, but it's understandable that people think it's the best belt driven Fanatec, because the naming is really confusing. I mean Elite is supposed to be the best not entry level. It's just marketing I guess.
but he needs all the levels...
@@IrLosin
My CSL wheel base finally died after like 6 years of hard abuse... It’s going to take a million years to fix it, but I’ve got my Xbox 360 and the fanatec GT2rs that’s 10 years old to hold me over lol 😂...
@@TooManyChoices1is the csl still worth it or should i go for a clubsport base?
go for clubsport, at least for the pedal set, A clutch is important if you wanna drive stick cars
Ooh boy, dont you just love when hobby breaks my wallet.
Great review. Very detailed and simple in same time. Cant wait to see video for chair.👍👍👍
Thanks, bro! Chair is coming out sooooooooooooooooon
Yes , absolutely, I made this change a few months ago. Feels much nicer and I swear I am now a fraction faster as a result.
Awesome!
Did you get the load call brake attachment?
I would 1000000% recommend that. You’ll be knocking off seconds of time with that.
But make sure you have a mounting solution because braking will take more force.
Trust me bro!!
@@avarmauk Logitech g29 enters the room: "did you say braking force?"
Subscribed after literally the first line.
the csl elite looks great and all, but jesus christ i can get either the t300 or g29/g923 for half the price and still have a good experience.
good, but not AS good. You get what you pay for.
It's 100% all about your budget. Good times will be had by all. I'm just glad to have CSL Elite budget!!!! Started with the T150. Did really enjoy it, though it is night and day!!!!
Hello, I have the F-GT lite also.
What size screws did you use to mount the pedals? Thanks
Hello there. Are there any wheels that are the same size as wheels in normal cars? Cheers!
Just the info I needed for making my decision
Awesome to hear that! :)
Should've waited for black Friday, you knew it was coming soon
@@notmeiko I hadn't purchased the fanatec products yet, but I believe the wheel base had a good discount going for it some like 50 - 90 bucks off
@@Sleepysunsetz 20% off, I have the PS4 licensed one which originally is 699 but I paid 560
@@notmeiko Really? I paid $400 for the wheel base and the PS4 steering wheel. Did you also buy pedals?
How are the breaks without the load cell?
Where can i buy that racing chair from? Please link.
Just a question. when you turn the wheel inch by inch do you feel like a lock moment? because i have the thrustmaster and am really happy with it. but it doenst feel smooth as i like it to be because every inch i turn it gets into a lock place like --- - ---- - ---- - ------ - its almost like morese code. XD the ---- is the slight turn and the - is the lock.
Where is your PS button located I can’t get mine to sync up it keeps asking Me to hit the PS button on the WRC wheel thanks in advance
Great review thanks alot
great watching the review ,Could you answer .... if i want to use other pedals such as clubsport v3?
Is the csl elite starter kit compatible with the series x?
Guys, do you know if the csl elite has the same electric motor as the csw 2.5 base?
Anybody know what the cheapest way to use the fanatec nascar rim with the csl elite base?
100% , I made this switch a few months ago, night and day difference
Youre very passionate.
I would love to hear your expertise over the teley.
Still cant decide what setup to get.
I play on pc and I’ve been saying up but I can’t seem to find It
Nice review 😎🥳
if for ps4 ps5 and pc, whats suggestion for the first taste racing wheels.no need fancy , just good enough, but not too shiity . not really follow that kind of fun toy, have no idea what budget get what kind of quality.
Should I stick with my g923 as a starter ?
Hi,
Every other video I see of a Rig mount, has just a single/dual bar coming up to fix the wheelbase. It then always wobbles like crazy back and forth... (see 09:03)
How can this give you precice FFB compared to a desk mounted setup (or a good fixed rig) ?
6:51 has it too. Those style rig mounts usually have a lot of flex due to how they are designed. So in this case, the FGT lite folds at the bottom of the dual bars, causing the flex.
I can’t find any of these things on the fanatec website
is there a handbrake that works with this and pa5?
I really would like to try the fanatec but i can only afford the g923 but i think its a good wheel too.
I'm considering the CSL Elite bundle for PS4 but I can't seem to find out how much the shipping cost will be to California. I emailed them a couple weeks ago but no response. I read somewhere it's a shocker. Anybody have a ballpark number?
Bought this wheel base with a couple different steering wheels, the shifter, e-brake, and the V3 pedals and am just waiting for my custom rig to arrive from Turtle Laboratories to put it all together in a week or two! Can’t wait to start using this with my kids! Great video, really appreciate you making this.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
Hey, do you still seem to have it? Any issues? I am buying one used for 600 cad with the p1 wheel and the loadcell and do u think it will be worht it over the t300?
@@randomperson6125 I still have it and use it on that custom racing rig I bought. It’s much better than any other racing sim system I’ve ever used before. If you can get one for a fair price, I would say its well worth it!
@@FitLabb thanks, i am releived now, its coming tmrw, will let you know how it feels
@@randomperson6125 looking forward to hearing your thoughts! 💪
I did go with a TS-XW base and im very happy with that :D
So I can’t find the starter kit on there website, so I only need the steering wheel the wheel base and the pedals basically?
Yes. I have the CSL Elite F1 set. Make sure your rig is stout. I have the Playseat Evolution.
That moment when you're debating between a full sim rig or ..... karting. 🙄👍🏻
Doing the exact same thing right now
A full sim rig will always be cheaper than karting but I totally understand you because I'm pretty much in your same situation
If you’re going to do a full racing sim might as well get a oculus quest 2 and cheap out on surrounding monitors
Can this be for Xbox and can you swap out the wheels
How does rev matching work with this setup, for example if you fail does the car jolt or is that more of the games responsibility?
Game. A friend has had a cs2. 5 for years and on different games it feels different.
I fact the biggest thing, as in real life, is the amount of revs engine resistance/weight of the car bits you're rev matching. So a high revving v10 I4 at 8000+ will love rev matching and will be much smoother as a result, but a chunky low rpm v6/v8/v12/I4 relining at 5.5/6 won't really give a shit about just dropping a gear without finesse lol
Ugh just saw this was 6 months old 😪
I want a 1000$ full drift sim what stuff should I get
What seat / wheel stand combo is that you've put the wheel, shifter and pedals on?
You can find it in my pinned comment!
I have the loadcell pedals from thrust master and a tmx pro wheel gonna upgrade to a csl wheel then mabey in a few years the pedals but I like my thrust master loadcells
I Have both Fanatec and G29 and the Fanatec CSL Elite is way better. Cannot compare to G923 though. I have just received the McLaren GT3 V2 wheel which is making it even better. I love that combo. Can just agree and recommend the CSL Elite to everyone.
Awesome! I just did a review on the GT3 V2 not so long ago!
Now is this worth it over a belt driven T300 RS GT?
So how are your lap times compared with other wheels?
Haven't done back to back comparison on lap times, but I can definitely say that my braking has improved a lot, and the way I can feel the road and manage input based on the feedback, it's much easier to get out of tricky situations
Hi thanks for the video. Your link takes me straight to the Fanatec website black friday sale which is I must say is very confusing indeed? I'm unable to find the latest xbox & ps elite base, brake pedal set with load sell and wrc wheel etc? Thanks.
You can find the CSL Elite bundle under the Black Friday tab! You can then configure it additionally with the LC set and WRC wheel, just press "Configure your setup".
@@MattsPaddock Ok thanks I will try that this evening and I'l see what the overall cost is. We currently have the T300rs and would like an upgrade now.
@@MattsPaddock Am I correct in believing that the WRC wheel is Xbox only and if I configure the bundle additionally with LC and WRC wheel I would get 2 wheels, the black one on display on the base for the PS & the WRC wheel for the Xbox? It doesn't explain, so annoying when I dont understand. :(
I would not say "better" but more immersive. The logitech g series are good wheels for those of us who are not hardcore sim racers. You can buy a g29, shifter, load cell and magnetic shift pads for $414 usd.
That is actually a great price compared to the base csl elite which with shipping is roughly $650 and only has two pedals with the load cell it goes up almost 180 usd
Can you link your chair and wheel stand? I'd appreciate it!
ruclips.net/video/tJjHH7Kk5GY/видео.html - link to the chair in the description box!
Subbed when the VTEC kicked in
Does the f-gt lite work well with the fanatec csl elite? Looks like it is shaking?
It does, but there will always be some play with these kind of setups
We have the same seat 😁😁
Sorry I need this information very quickly. But the elite csl uses optical encoder or hall effect to detect steering movements?
I believe it's the optical sensor.
Yes is an optical sensor. What do you think about using snapdome keys to change fanatec p1 crowns? Is it reliable enough? I know some have had problems
Yes, I can also confirm it's an optical sensor! Have you got the snapdome keys already or?
Literally ordered mine 5 hours ago, now watching this xD
Same lol.
You guy's are going to love it.So quiet.
@kindon T The CSL elite with default rim, 3 pedals and the manual shifter.
@kindon T Logitech G293/G29 was going for 180€ here, didn't see the T300 on sale either.
But I just wanted a sizeable upgrade to my old Logitech.
@@Nikoxion It will definitely be that,it will make your old wheel feel like a toy believe me.Good luck and enjoy!
I drift i had the g923 great for drifting (had to setup up as a g29) and not much difference from the csl, so why did i upgrade because compatability with my older games
is the diffrence between this and direct drive worth it for a hobbyist?
I still have to try out the direct drive up close and personal, I'll definitely make a comparison!
I think Logitech wheel is better for rally because it's smaller. Is it so?
i have the same set as yours but i could never make rev lights and steering display work
It can depend on the game and szstem
Didn’t watch yet, but I went from G29 to CSL Elite and absolutely worth the increased investment. Brings a totally new perspective to sim driving.
After logitech's price hike with G923, T300 and CSL Elite are no brainers.
8:57 Thought we wouldn't notice. But we did.
hi, i have your same steering wheel but i only have 2 standard pedals.
If buying the load cell vibrates the brake yes or no LET ME KNOW
You mean if the pedal brake would have pumping feedback like with an ABS system? No, it won't, it doesn't have any feedback
@@MattsPaddock OK thanks! do you know which one I have to buy to have the vibration on the brake?
At this moment I don't know any, but I haven't went that much in-depth, I would guess there's some that have feedback like that
@@MattsPaddock Yes! the Fanatec ClubSport v3 platform vibrates
ps: now I have added two bass shakers
one under the seat! the other under the pedals.
Hello, just a question. I have got the same F-GT Lite seat, but I use T300RS with alcantara plus thrustmaster gear shifter and Thrustmaster load cell pedals. My question is how that metal plate deals with forces coming from your Fanatec wheel base and wheel feedback? Is there too much wobbling and flexing? I mean metal plate where you mount your wheel to.
Check it out here - ruclips.net/video/tJjHH7Kk5GY/видео.html
In sum, it does wobble, it's to be expected given the construction, but nothing that made me preform worse in-game.
What's the GamePlay game my friend? (Available on Xbox one x?)
Project Cars 3!
Wat simulator sit are you using? It seems very nice.
NextLevelRacing F-GT Lite, my reviewing of it is coming next week! 🙂
@@MattsPaddock Thanks i will be waiting for the vídeo.
@@xxSSe7eNNxx In case you missed it - ruclips.net/video/tJjHH7Kk5GY/видео.html
Can any1 tell me what the difference is between this wheel and the regular version? Ia the wheel base better with Wrc version? Or any other difference?
There’s €100 euro price difference but I can’t work out what’s different. Also, the Wrc version of this wheel, is now saying sold out and they won’t be getting any more in stock. Surely this isn’t correct? Was it a limited edition???
You mean the P1 wheel?
@@MattsPaddock sorry, yes, the p1 👍
They're basically the same, just a different livery
saddly in my country its costs 15 full salary month payments
Gonna get the CSL for the VTEC yo
I had time with both Fanatec belt drives, they're both ok but the eco system isn't entry level friendly. I'd recommend the Thrustmaster TS-PC or variations, the eco system is cheaper, and there are some great inexpensive mods out there that elevate their performance considerably. A magnetic shifter mod, tool free and about £20 will give you one of best feeling paddle shifter's I've ever felt (& I've tried some good ones). There are a couple of 300mm wheels available and they are a little more expensive but the F 488 Ferrari Challenge wheel replica is a great wheel (mag shifter mod available) as is Sparco replica, there are formula wheels too if that's your thing. There's also a Quick Ring mod which again is a simple fit which makes the Thrustmaster "quick release" system functional without needing a screw and which will not loosen on you. It's a better eco system for value, ok as is with some good effective and inexpensivel mods that improve them, mostly in tactile feedback, significantly.
what is the chair?
ruclips.net/video/tJjHH7Kk5GY/видео.html
I was torn for awhile between getting a direct drive wheel or the set-up you're showing now. I went with the CSL Elite, and I'm completely satisfied. I can't speak to Fanatec's customer service....but I can speak as to the quality of their products.
They resell well in fb groups
@@jordancastro5700 Yeah, especially here where I live because Fanatec doesn't operate in this region.
Hoping to try that DD system, still haven't
@@MattsPaddock I can't justify the cost vs performance over CSL Elite.
I really want to get a csl but can’t find one anywhere!
Wait for the CSL DD. The CSL Elite is discontinued.
Fanatec definitely has the best racing sim hardware on the consumer market. A bit expensive for my tastes though. Fantastic review.
Fanatec isn't the best
What is best then?
@@bucktizzy5911 exactly. Fanatec GT DD Pro is the best under $1,000
CSL elite vs TS-PC ? (both with elite pedales LC )
Haven't tried the TS-PC yet, but that's an interesting comparison for sure
So whats the step above this?
Direct Drive!
Speaking about pulling things off 😏
🤣
Forgive me if I missed it but you never did say how much the bundle cost.?
when he shows you can see the price
close to $1000
The CSL Bundle (with CS Elite pedals) is currently around 570€
I'll have to settle for the T300 as Fanatec doesn't ship to India. Awesome review though 👍
I just did a review of it too (ruclips.net/video/7eGDNOAnclc/видео.html)! Thanks for watching!
@@MattsPaddock Alredy watched it 😂
Awesome, thanks! 😁
Fanatec staff are toxic tho their wheel is made in China I ask them how to get one to South east Asia and then they send me 3 not safe website which doesn’t have the fanatec products at all lmao.
A comparison between this and T-GT II or TS-XW will be interesting.
The price of this is closer to the TS-XW if we include pedals etc.
The T-GT II is considered the top belt drive unit in the mass market and Fanatec has the rumour of making top quality so i wonder if this is better than even a T-GT2 and the TS-XW which is closer in price than the T300 RS that this base definitely beats.
Yes it's worth your money no doubt about it!
Kak si zgodan legendo
By 0:03 I'm already liking this video
are you running it on Xbox One X ?
PC!
does it have ps5 support?
Check this out - forum.fanatec.com/discussion/14643/ps4-wheels-compatible-to-ps5
looking to buy fanatec csl elite.If anybody is selling pls inform me
There’s this one that cost 275 and there’s another one that cost 550 what’s the difference
me after intro who is thinking about building new sim rig with loadcell brake pedal: ''Yea''
😂
Gamin with the socks😤
Yes, easily
That was my conclusion at the end!
Мне кажется, отличный комплект - хотел себе такой прикупить, но стоимость останавливает - никакой скидки за комплект, к сожалению. (
Can this be used on ps5 and pc?
Yes, it can!
@@MattsPaddock thank you
T300 (TX) is jsut as good as Fanatec wheel. both belt driven both feel great and work great. If you already own a T300 (TX) don't bother upgrading to Fanatec CLS, not worth it. The gains are so minimal. If your rich and don't mind then get the Podium Editions and skip the belt driven bases all together.
the WeeRC steering wheel xD
I want the WRC rim but I might get the new BMW real life rim coming next year! Will be around 800 to 1000!
Also I have the V.2 wheel and V2.5 base
Waiting for that BMW wheel too!
Will be more then $800-1000. I seen a price tag over over $1500.
“Speaking of pulling things off...”
😬
I swear I watch reviews of something I want and they say it's good but right as I buy it every review says not to buy it
Happy to know im not the only one😂
@@Avelin205 yea it happens every time lol
Why has this been discontinued so soon?
Because the new CSL DD replaced it! Hopefully I'll have a review of it up soon :)
Trying to buy CSL Elite off eBay cause of this, but the guy won’t respond fast enough 😑
It's almost always worth to take the more expensive stuff... if you have the money.
Upgrading from a logitech g920... it was a great starting platform to find out if I'd wanna dive deeper into the sim racing experience. Debating between csl elite or club sport