Logitech G923 vs G29 - WORTH the upgrade?

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  • @MattsPaddock
    @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +339

    Assetto Corsa COMPE-TIZI-O-NE! 👌😂 Any racing drivers here? What are your favorite racing games?
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    • @MatrixGaimz
      @MatrixGaimz 4 года назад +19

      I prefer more relaxed racing games. Primarily enjoy the Forza horizon series. I am too bad to play sim racers

    • @ionutmihaimarisca
      @ionutmihaimarisca 4 года назад +4

      ​@@MatrixGaimz​ Same for me as well, trying to relax when using the steering wheel instead of getting angry in simulators. I'd like to learn but it takes too much time I don't have.

    • @MatrixGaimz
      @MatrixGaimz 4 года назад +5

      @@ionutmihaimarisca yea I also have a really small room so I have to setup the wheel and pedals each time I want to use them. So now I just use controller again. Allows me to have that quick 10 minutes of relaxed open world driving

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +9

      I also have the same issue of having to put the whole setup on and off again, hoping to make a dedicated setup one day. I relax by racing with others... Until they hit me. 🤣

    • @118Shadow118
      @118Shadow118 4 года назад +6

      @@ionutmihaimarisca or if you want to be the complete opposite of relaxed, you could play some DiRT Rally 2.0 :D

  • @willchen9014
    @willchen9014 3 года назад +2311

    Environmentalists should be ashamed, Logitech has now set the gold standard for recycling.

  • @INFERNOdll
    @INFERNOdll 3 года назад +1742

    so basically they updated the firmware to call it "trueforce" and shipped it as a brand new product. Nice.

    • @Zumito
      @Zumito 3 года назад +82

      And painted it black (rolling stone's reference?)

    • @DD-bv9jl
      @DD-bv9jl 3 года назад +57

      @@Zumito "I WANT IT BLACK" btw hell no the g29 looks better

    • @neildonaghy123
      @neildonaghy123 3 года назад +27

      pppfffft.... I'll stick with my G920 and One X

    • @lackofdubs5975
      @lackofdubs5975 3 года назад +8

      They have done since the g25 I think

    • @BenDunlop
      @BenDunlop 3 года назад +22

      It's basically the g27 with more buttons and a paint job...

  • @TheFatSandwhich
    @TheFatSandwhich 3 года назад +756

    Can't believe Logitech are dropping this shit and charging an extra $300 (NZD) over the G29 price. Still not even belt driven.

    • @DerHeigler
      @DerHeigler 3 года назад +26

      I saw a fanatec csl elite for that price. It was used, but I think that it is still a better deal than the g923

    • @EvilijoUK
      @EvilijoUK 3 года назад +28

      How is this $300 more expensive? In UK it's extra £20 compared to G29/920

    • @jamilrahman3216
      @jamilrahman3216 3 года назад +8

      CMDR Evil is assume it’s mostly down to shipping as the new ones aren’t readily available in NZ yet, whereas the old ones are.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +6

      @@DerHeigler There is no way someone is selling a CSL elite for half the price during these times, lmao. They are hard enough to get at msrp of $550. You might have seen a TM set. Fanatec is wayyyyy more expensive.

    • @DerHeigler
      @DerHeigler 3 года назад

      @@evolicious I don't know, maybe it was just an auction but I think it wasn't

  • @TheBoostedDoge
    @TheBoostedDoge 4 года назад +407

    Might just replace my g29's buttons with the ones from a g923 and call it a day

    • @Matte0Cal0
      @Matte0Cal0 3 года назад +11

      For real imma do the same

    • @rayn.2688
      @rayn.2688 3 года назад

      Did you find the buttons?

    • @TheBoostedDoge
      @TheBoostedDoge 3 года назад

      @@rayn.2688 nope but I haven't really looked yet, I'm saving up to upgrade my pedals

    • @cytrus3427
      @cytrus3427 3 года назад +1

      @@TheBoostedDoge "upgrade"? Cant you only use the pedals that come with the wheel?

    • @nathan6771
      @nathan6771 3 года назад +1

      😂😂

  • @GG-dl9tl
    @GG-dl9tl 3 года назад +271

    Only bought a g29 a couple months ago so when I saw this new wheel it made my stomach hurt but now that I know its identical and I also only paid £200 for a brand new wheel with shifter while this costs £350 without shifter i feel much better :)

    • @TeamOdiffat
      @TeamOdiffat 3 года назад

      I got mine 1,5 years a

    • @wifebeater69
      @wifebeater69 3 года назад +5

      same here, i am relieved that its basically the same damn thing

    • @fin4771
      @fin4771 3 года назад +3

      @@Dan-xl4lk got mine 100 with a shifter used

    • @Abdulrahman_199
      @Abdulrahman_199 3 года назад +6

      okay i am going to buy the G29 but is it going to work with the PS5?

    • @fin4771
      @fin4771 3 года назад +1

      @@Abdulrahman_199 ask any customer service teams.

  • @krazypeople4
    @krazypeople4 3 года назад +428

    direct drive would be asking to much at $400? Asking $400 for a steering wheel designed in 2005 is too much.

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 3 года назад +25

      They are selling the pitiful shifter separate too for 60-USD and I even known this after I gotten my G29. It's no different from the G27 with no improvements besides the buttons being moved away from it.
      You're better off with an Fanatec set-up for around $800.

    • @igor_meloil
      @igor_meloil 3 года назад +12

      Direct drive is too much for 400. But at least a belt driven would be great at this price

    • @igor_meloil
      @igor_meloil 3 года назад +14

      If I worked at Logitech I would be ashamed to release a product that has old design, not enough new feafures and is basically the same as ghr old one spec wise.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +30

      @@igor_meloil "Direct drive is too much for 400" Do you even know what Direct Drive is? lmao. Good luck finding a DD under $1000.

    • @igor_meloil
      @igor_meloil 3 года назад +4

      @@evolicious I know, I was answering Billy

  • @GTChucker86
    @GTChucker86 4 года назад +350

    Still using my G27 for nearly a decade now.
    Still going strong 😐👍

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +63

      It's hard to believe it's been that long! 😮

    • @imtheboss8414
      @imtheboss8414 4 года назад

      I have g920

    • @GTChucker86
      @GTChucker86 4 года назад +43

      TekTick The G27 is certainly the Toyota Corolla of the simracing world haha

    • @marcoseberhardt
      @marcoseberhardt 4 года назад +4

      @@MattsPaddock using one myself it is easy for me to believe :P no deadzone, pedals working fine, no mods whatsoever

    • @psnbrasileira9588
      @psnbrasileira9588 4 года назад +10

      G25 here. PC and PS4 with adapter. Why change.

  • @TheErazor21
    @TheErazor21 4 года назад +145

    Still going strong with my DFGT 💪🏻😂

    • @ethanball4087
      @ethanball4087 4 года назад +10

      That wheel is a beast. I will admit there is quite an upgrade in FFB with a G920 or equivalent. Still wouldn’t overpay for any of those though

    • @phoenixl3g3nd73
      @phoenixl3g3nd73 4 года назад

      Had that as a kid, it was amazing 👌

    • @MarcusSims91
      @MarcusSims91 4 года назад +3

      same here. pedals suck but im getting my money's worth
      i've used it 3 generations now, i think by the end of the 4th i'd be ready to buy my last wheel ever lol

    • @daboiracing3848
      @daboiracing3848 3 года назад

      Still one of the best deals I've had!!

    • @nickoseany
      @nickoseany 3 года назад

      Same✊🏾

  • @Gamebit257
    @Gamebit257 4 года назад +258

    For 499, forget it.
    For 299, it's a nice purchase if you already don't own a G29.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +2

      The G923 is $399, dummy. Also, the older g29/g920 go for $300-$350 new.

    • @hach1koko
      @hach1koko 3 года назад +31

      for $199-$249, maybe. $299 is still way too high for this outdated wheel imo.

    • @kevineis9088
      @kevineis9088 3 года назад +12

      @@evolicious No you dummy. the older g29 go for 160 on a sale.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +5

      @@kevineis9088 $160??? lmao. No, definitely not. I'm in the process of selling my g902 and it can't be found for under $350 right now. Especially a time when sim hardware is sold out everywhere and is exorbitantly expensive.
      I live in a big city in the US too, so it's not like im in a 3rd world that has a nonexistent electronics trade commission.

    • @heroichitsuji
      @heroichitsuji 3 года назад

      EVOLICIOUS How much are you thinking about selling yours for? I happen to be looking for one lol.

  • @joshcook5480
    @joshcook5480 3 года назад +40

    The break pedal actually changed its progressive now so it reacts to the amount of force you apply to it (like a real break pedal) not how far you push it like the G29.

  • @paulrubens3048
    @paulrubens3048 3 года назад +57

    SEEMS LIKE just for ease of manufacture
    rather than any benefit for the consumer....

  • @foxtochopkun4438
    @foxtochopkun4438 3 года назад +32

    Thanks Logitech, I will be opening my G29 and add a loud speaker to it. G923, done.

  • @gtagamer5837
    @gtagamer5837 3 года назад +6

    First time coming to your channel.. the quality of the video and the way you explained things are top notch.. great work

  • @gorillagrips27
    @gorillagrips27 7 месяцев назад

    Great video I’ve been researching for about a week and this is a very helpful review thank you friend 😊

  • @casper246
    @casper246 4 года назад +58

    Great video 👍 bought a G29 about 1 year ago! Glad there's no "ground breaking" reason to upgrade 🙂

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +3

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Porkleaker
      @Porkleaker 3 года назад

      Yeah, I don't see the point either.

    • @BBBrox
      @BBBrox 3 года назад +2

      If you have a hard mounted setup, you can always add a transducer shaker (ie. silent subwoofer or 'butt kicker') attached under your desk. That's what I have. You also need some type of amp to send the bass signal from the game. A regular subwooder adds sound (and vibration); the transducer just adds vibration. Works great and adds feel like the engine rumble that regular ffb doesn't provide. It actually feels great in my setup. Not sure how the G923 compares with its effects, but seems like they are trying to achieve a similar thing.

    • @chemicalBR0
      @chemicalBR0 3 года назад +2

      theres not even any groundbreaking upgrades to go from a g25 to a g29 its still basically the same unit from 2005

  • @gaspermedved5803
    @gaspermedved5803 4 года назад +211

    I see they're still selling the g25 just with more buttons.

    • @sretkosretni
      @sretkosretni 4 года назад +8

      Majkemi

    • @PhellipeDiaz
      @PhellipeDiaz 4 года назад

      My thoughts exactly

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +3

      It's a different product with different internals, you need to actually go read specs and watch videos form people willing to review it properly. TekTick doesn't understand how to review tech.

    • @RuanCowley
      @RuanCowley 3 года назад +12

      @@evolicious Well aren't you a nice person....

    • @gaspermedved5803
      @gaspermedved5803 3 года назад +10

      @@evolicious You know I had a logitech driving force gt, logitech g25, and now g27, and I've seen the internals of a g29 and they're all exactly the same, except g27 and up don't use straight cut gears so their ffb is slightly worse

  • @phabius123
    @phabius123 3 года назад +7

    Great vídeo! I still have my G25, which I bought back in 2008... Still works like a charm👍

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

    • @tibozino1671
      @tibozino1671 3 года назад

      Me too, it just don't want to break down 🤣

  • @Khrissy6unnell
    @Khrissy6unnell 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Many thanks just the info I needed. I wasn't sure which time scale order the wheels went in. Such low stock where I live and it was either a G29 or wait wait wait...waiting that didn't have an end date. So I took what I could get...the G29. Soon as i had it I thought, u fool, u should have waited but now thanks to your video I feel even more happy with my situation. Many thanks again. Happy New Year. All the very best from the UK.

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  2 года назад

      Glad it helped, all the best to you too!

  • @Gaming-Enthusiast
    @Gaming-Enthusiast Год назад +1

    Great review , watched this as looking at getting my 1st wheel to go along with Psvr2 . I will be going for the G29

  • @user-xy9lv6kk2j
    @user-xy9lv6kk2j 4 года назад +432

    Looking at the price, I recommend just getting a thrustmaster, more customizable. Or if you have the money get a fanatec wheel, they have already been confirmed to work with the ps5 and series x.

    • @panadatm
      @panadatm 4 года назад +13

      Yeah the fact that they still haven’t upgraded the pedals is sad

    • @mohammedsalimahmed5230
      @mohammedsalimahmed5230 4 года назад +1

      Link? For proof they said it works with PS5? I can't find it anywhere. It's the only reason I haven't bought one recently.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +9

      @@panadatm They did though, they added a ~load cell~ SPRING in the brake and have adjusted the clutch and gas. TekTick did not do very good research on this kit.

    • @KarcusKorpse
      @KarcusKorpse 3 года назад +2

      @@evolicious if they did, great! To think they were just gonna rehash and only add 1 tech (trueforce), would had been abismal

    • @marklunguly3030
      @marklunguly3030 3 года назад +3

      Sup dude ! Can you help me out? I wanna join the steering wheel community! Ive been drifting for years on controller, but forza and nfs are not realistic enough, so i tried the more realistic games, asetto, project cars, etc... And theyre hard with controller, i want to be more smooth, etc.. Which wheel would u prefer for drifting? I of course need clutch + shifter too. Thanks for the help!

  • @AlconburyBlues
    @AlconburyBlues 3 года назад +43

    The only thing that sucks is they never improved the mounting clamp design that dates all the way back to the G25 and earlier. There is a very small window between too loose, where the force feedback will shake the wheel off your desk, and too tight, where you break one of the clamp arms off. Once you break a clamp arm, you have to completely disassemble your wheel to replace them. And support doesn't always have this part to send you. C'mon Logitech! Please improve this! Try metal reinforced plastic. You don't have to go full-on metal arms. You can mold the plastic shape around a simple metal "L"-shaped rod that would make it more difficult to break.

    • @tehMaloWalo
      @tehMaloWalo 4 месяца назад

      never had this issue before. you just need to tighten your wheel more. skill issue

  • @Techcensorshipbot
    @Techcensorshipbot 3 года назад +13

    I just bought a g29 recently and the only thing I noticed physically that’s different than the older revision g29 is the metal at the top of the wheel is blue now instead of silver. Love this wheel setup though especially for the price.

    • @danish4481
      @danish4481 7 месяцев назад

      Are you sure about that ? Because I’m still very confused.. I bought a PlayStation version but the metal at the top is silver..

  • @elfs31
    @elfs31 4 года назад +1

    Tele2, I did not expect to see that one.. but it was great review and it's good to know that a month ago, my purchase of T300Rs with gear shift and new pedals was a good buy and it didn't get buried by new logitech generation, which didn't change much.. (it's basically exactly the same)

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @chemicalBR0
      @chemicalBR0 3 года назад +1

      m8 its basically the same as the g25 (very little has changed in 15 years)
      any thrustmaster wheel is a FAR better option

  • @statingtheobvious8119
    @statingtheobvious8119 3 года назад +14

    They could've added a pushable horn like they did with the Driving force GT

  • @bigmanaenterprises6332
    @bigmanaenterprises6332 3 года назад +5

    A bigger wheel ,handbrake support and sequential shifter option back would of made this "update" worth while .

  • @shareefahmed126
    @shareefahmed126 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your information,
    Good video.

  • @fpupesh
    @fpupesh 3 года назад +31

    So technically they are selling a g25 again...

  • @jawadshamir
    @jawadshamir 3 года назад +33

    One option they can consider is making a f1 style steering mod, similar to thrustmaster. Logitech already in partnership with Mclaren F1 team

    • @chrisdejager989
      @chrisdejager989 Год назад +1

      Comment was 2 years ago but you do get a F1 mod now😉

  • @RuanCowley
    @RuanCowley 3 года назад +8

    All these new features means nothing when racing in VR. So I will be happy to keep racing with my G920. Thanks for this video. :)

  • @cancerousmouse9530
    @cancerousmouse9530 2 года назад +13

    I used to have the G29 decided to give it to my cousin and try the G923, couldn't feel much difference between the 2 other than noticing that the force feedback on the G923 is really violent in Dirt Rally 2.0

    • @urbanshepherdgroup2418
      @urbanshepherdgroup2418 2 месяца назад

      Haha yes it can be so voilent, in forza, if i just touch the edge of the road pavment the force feedback activates agressively and tries to crash my car.

  • @owen9997
    @owen9997 2 года назад +1

    Logitech G923 Not Turning In Game
    So I start up the game and everything works except I cannot turn when in car? The settings register my axis turning, but nothing. I quit and load settings, switch to keyboard and back to wheel and it may or may not work. Did an entire qualifying and when race started no turning. Had to quit race. Any ideas? Game worked great a month ago no issue and other games like F1 2021 work fine no issue.

  • @henriquegalvao6945
    @henriquegalvao6945 4 года назад +5

    Still using my G25. No problems at all since 2007.

  • @pablorojas658
    @pablorojas658 4 года назад +166

    Its same ffb system, same nm torque, same motors, same pedals... expected more from Logitech, disappointing

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +9

      Nope. All wrong. It's a very different FFB system with higher quality materials with the added trueforce hardware. Different motors too that have a stronger FFB. The added haptic feedback is made to help read the road as a real fly-by-wire would feel. Please learn how to read, before you learn how to type.

    • @jaydenyang8986
      @jaydenyang8986 3 года назад +14

      EVOLICIOUS well most games currently dont support truforce yet so i guess truforce feature is useless right now

    • @pablorojas658
      @pablorojas658 3 года назад +37

      @@evolicious improvement is minimal after 5 years and trueforce is only for simcades... iracing? rfactor? atm 1? RBR?
      For real simracers is basically g29-27 with other firmware

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 3 года назад +8

      @@evolicious So they made harder plastic, made the wheel stronger ??? not from what ive read and added rumble motors so they don't need to add to much support for games that have rumble anyway they just need to add it to there "truedrive" software and then put the price up by$200 lol. T300 is a way way better option, i went from a g29-T300 and now simucube and the T300 was levels above these wheels.

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 3 года назад

      @@pablorojas658 Did you watch the video it is already supported by Iracing and ACC

  • @chrisipad4425
    @chrisipad4425 3 года назад +1

    great video, thanks!

  • @SneakersRus-pn2he
    @SneakersRus-pn2he 8 месяцев назад

    Great video help a lot

  • @MateuszKapusta
    @MateuszKapusta 4 года назад +13

    Finally someone who can spell "Assetto Corsa Competizione" properly. :D

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +2

      Thank youuuuuu. My neighboring country speaks that language 😁

    • @EmanHowells
      @EmanHowells 3 года назад

      You are so cool

  • @alanluth6755
    @alanluth6755 4 года назад +33

    And still no loadcell brake... jeez for the price they ask that would have been the minimum to add

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +6

      I was hoping for that too 😟

    • @alanluth6755
      @alanluth6755 4 года назад +9

      @Gaming Central Plays well a simple 50KG loadcell with a PCB doesn't cost more than 50 bucks and a 200$ increase for a changed FFB engine is a tad much

    • @TheRedronn
      @TheRedronn 4 года назад +3

      I don't think any wheel maker is selling a package with loadcell brake at this price point. Seems like an unrealistic expectation.
      They could however have more options instead of forcing you to buy the 1 package they have, with no easily removable/swappable steering wheel.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +1

      lmao, loadcell would put this kit well into the $500+ range.

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 3 года назад +2

      @Gaming Central Plays and they doubled the price without one. This is a money grab due to rise in online Sim Racing

  • @andycrawley8276
    @andycrawley8276 3 года назад +1

    Very informative, thankyou

  • @MindOfStefan
    @MindOfStefan 3 года назад +1

    that double heel toe downshift was smooth bro

  • @jmcmurray3012
    @jmcmurray3012 2 года назад +13

    I know this is a year old, but that was a really great and informative video comparing the two. the G923 is currently $100CAD more than the G920, and based off of this video it will save me that $100. Thank you

  • @ryroxfr8427
    @ryroxfr8427 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for that video I'm happy of my new g29

  • @petiertje
    @petiertje 3 года назад +2

    when I read about Logitech launching this wheel, I thought it would be at the very least a belt driven system. This comes across as the same system they have been using for ages now, only with even more options to rattle. I'm not upgrading to this one, since this isn't realy an upgrade imo and certainly doesn't warrant the price, which is quite steep for a gear driven system if you ask me.

  • @Bo-hr1rn
    @Bo-hr1rn 2 года назад +1

    Really good video. thx a lot.

  • @josaphcj7199
    @josaphcj7199 4 года назад +8

    The colour changes in button excites me.

  • @TechInspected
    @TechInspected 4 года назад +521

    Hey G25 can I copy your homework?
    Yeah but change it a little so it won't be obvious you copied.
    G923: Say no more fam.

    • @nitoafterdark
      @nitoafterdark 3 года назад +22

      I honestly thought it was another g29 Vs g920 video just looking at the thumbnail!

    • @pau6545
      @pau6545 3 года назад +1

      Old meme but good one

    • @adamzamecnik9160
      @adamzamecnik9160 3 года назад +1

      Forgot to change it tho

    • @nartron3000
      @nartron3000 3 года назад +1

      best comment

    • @JustAnotherGamer1005
      @JustAnotherGamer1005 3 года назад

      I still use my G25 'till this day 😅. Still works fine and was able to get it to work on PS4 with Cronusmax Plus. Except for the button layout, what is actually significantly different between all these steering wheels?

  • @jacobchristoffersen541
    @jacobchristoffersen541 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks! :) About to buy my first steering wheel, any recommendations?

  • @Gavin-xm2bg
    @Gavin-xm2bg 3 года назад +2

    I wish that they put a handbrake option in and a new shifter with a sequential setting

  • @etamm1343
    @etamm1343 4 года назад +36

    So in conclusion pay $400 to tickle ur palms

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +4

      Haptic feedback does make a difference if you are driving to read terrain. More so with dirt and wet asphalt on high quality compound rubber.

    • @kdrag7560
      @kdrag7560 3 года назад +5

      @@evolicious So a phone vibrator costs 200 dollars?

    • @progenji6407
      @progenji6407 3 года назад +2

      It also has a progressive spring brake, which feels a lot better still, get a thrustmaster

    • @ManicQuinn
      @ManicQuinn 3 года назад +2

      Man, the ignorance. It's literally translating physics output into FFB, something we didn't have at this price point before. People who go the g29 are going for the gear driven where its a bit more aggressive feeling compared to the smoothness of belt driven wheels, increasing the realism. The fact that he felt uncomfortable was good I think, cause that's how it is irl as rubble and gravel vibrate your wheel.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +1

      @@kdrag7560 It's much more advanced than that.

  • @pepsibottleq
    @pepsibottleq 3 года назад +4

    these rock, I was going to go Fanatec until I figured how much everything would be. I don't think I gave up that much. These are great for the money

    • @honesttroll3463
      @honesttroll3463 2 года назад

      Plus to have 3 pedals with fanatec and gear knob it’s going to cost around £1000 over 300 for these…..

  • @Rkb_
    @Rkb_ 3 года назад

    Nice vid, how is the general force feedback other than 'trueforce' micro vibration as compared to g29..

  • @leksasdf
    @leksasdf 2 года назад +1

    You missed the brake pedal spring compared to the old rubber block. Big upgrade.

  • @kv9395
    @kv9395 3 года назад +21

    i really wish they have taken care of the horrible high pitch whistling when turning left on some models of the g29.

    • @ParadoXGaminGMijat
      @ParadoXGaminGMijat 3 года назад

      Same motors,brushed,and brushes are loud especially when it's cold.

  • @yourick1953
    @yourick1953 3 года назад +6

    literally the g29 with some small cosmestic changes for 150 more, thats about it.

  • @Bad888Max
    @Bad888Max 3 года назад

    actually im a bit relieved, i bought 5 months ago G29 for pc ,and since im casual in racing games i do not use wheel everyday and im happy they did not bring direct drive or similar belt system, then i would be thinking about buying it . for now im happy :D

  • @mrapter7
    @mrapter7 3 года назад

    Just bought the g920 for pc, glad I’m not missing anything

  • @Simlife101
    @Simlife101 3 года назад +45

    So they added Rumble motors and an Extra €200. Glad i got into DD wheels

    • @joelbates8243
      @joelbates8243 3 года назад +2

      I wouldnt mind but my G920 has rumble. So... its exactly the same.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +8

      OOF, DD is where it's at. Wish I had the 'fuck you' money for that stuff.

  • @rich2579
    @rich2579 3 года назад +7

    The G923 is the inflation-adjusted model of the G29 lmao

  • @grobin8374
    @grobin8374 Год назад

    i ve got a momo wheel for 50 years and its working like day one...and i dont think its much worse than the g29 either....for the times shake and the money...you could get the feeling well..super value for money...dont spend a fortune if its not necessary...you can get there cheaper sometimes

  • @swtptt6463
    @swtptt6463 3 года назад

    The very first time I saw Alonso from ad, I really wanted to have it. But after checking specifics, only thing that I remember is the color changed buttons. lol. and the price!

  • @etamm1343
    @etamm1343 4 года назад +58

    Looking at the price, I would recommend going with Thrustmaster T300RS GT.

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +4

      Nope. More downsides to T300RS GT such as resolution, latency, driver support, and more. Logitec may only be gear-driven, but it's far more realistic and you will drive better with it if you are reading terrain. Logiec software is far superior, obviously, and has much better support. The next step up is DD, and the DD1 alone costs $1200, with the DD2 at $1600+. So eother spend $400 for the best rig under $500, or spend $1700+ on Fanatec gear. Your choice.

    • @etamm1343
      @etamm1343 3 года назад +34

      @@evolicious U dumb dumb, I tried both of them before and T300RS GT is better in almost every way

    • @KarcusKorpse
      @KarcusKorpse 3 года назад +15

      @@evolicious I got the 300rs gt and had a G29. Sold the G29 because of the notchy/clicking sound and slippery feel. The 300RS steering wheel felt better, and smoother. Unless the Logitech was broken, preferred the 300RS in steering.

    • @galihrakhman4087
      @galihrakhman4087 3 года назад +24

      @@evolicious Logitech fanboy

    • @Metla666
      @Metla666 3 года назад +23

      @@evolicious Nonsense. The T300 is huge upgrade in all areas over the Logitech gear.

  • @gamingwithredwan5013
    @gamingwithredwan5013 3 года назад +5

    It's pretty much the same just with new generation console support that's really disappointing

  • @MrJojofoto
    @MrJojofoto 2 года назад +2

    Hi, I just made the purchase of the G923 and hooked it up to the PS5. So far after two days of use, it feels responsive and smooth, but I am not getting the audio sound from the wheelbase or the true force on GT7, F22, and Asseto Corsa Comptetizioni. I am thinking that something is maybe wrong with the wheel, maybe I need to flick a switch on the device, or maybe its just only for PC? and simply asking if you can kindly share any feedback? Thank you so much!

  • @Matt-di6nb
    @Matt-di6nb 3 года назад +1

    YES! They finally made a new wheel! Ive had mine for 3 yr and its showing it too lol. I was thinking for thrustmaster as I do like to swap around after a while but this looks really cool now that the have made the xbox version have the same button layout! Didnt really make any sense as to why they didnt add the same button layout to each wheels

    • @daradevlin4093
      @daradevlin4093 3 года назад +1

      Defo go thrustmaster. For the price of 400 this wheel is far too expensive for essentially a g25 with different buttons. The belt system is far better in the thrustmaster. It’s so much more smooth compared to the clunky Logitech. Plus thrustmaster has a huge ecosystem that allows you to switch, wheels , pedals, and get shifters, handbrakes you name it. Switching from g27 to t300 was the best thing I did

    • @Matt-di6nb
      @Matt-di6nb 3 года назад

      @@daradevlin4093 Yeah i looked at the price and went "FUCK THAT! I could easily get a thrustmaster with that!" My g920 didnt cost that much 3 yr ago

  • @trabi0582
    @trabi0582 3 года назад +11

    Why do I love hes accent so much?? you know, when he says assetto corsa competizione.

  • @fabianoperes2155
    @fabianoperes2155 10 месяцев назад +5

    The best G923 feature is that it makes G29 and G920 cheapper!
    Thanks Logitech!

  • @Fico_24
    @Fico_24 3 года назад

    Awesome video bro, u are hilarious 😂🤣

  • @DaddyDomASMR
    @DaddyDomASMR 2 года назад

    This is a good video for comparison.
    Where I live, the TM T300 RS costs more than G923

  • @pc-broke8348
    @pc-broke8348 3 года назад +23

    Wait the g29 is a rebranded g27 wich in it self is an improved g25, so the g923 is just an improved g25 !?
    Wtf!?

    • @Nero_blasted
      @Nero_blasted 3 года назад +2

      PC-Broke lol at that point just glue some popsicle sticks to your controller and you got a Logitech g105869 lol

  • @MrPropanePete
    @MrPropanePete 3 года назад +12

    Unfortunately the G923 pedals will share the same weakness as the G29. They're the same. The pedal potentiometers give trouble after a while, particularly the accelerator as it's used the most. It's an easy job to pull them out and clean them up but they eventually give up and finding identical spares is difficult as Logitech don't seem to have a facility to supply and sell spares. Maybe the next generation G-whatever pedals will have load cells.

    • @Derpynewb
      @Derpynewb Год назад +1

      AXC sell hall effect conversions. Although they don't call them that. They just call it a potentionmeter upgrade. Logitech are still at fault, just letting anyone know if this really bothers them.

    • @MrPropanePete
      @MrPropanePete Год назад

      @@Derpynewb I have since found that lubricating the contact surfaces with dialectric grease makes a huge difference. I dismantled my potentiometers over a year ago, cleaned them out again but this time I applied the grease. I haven't had any problems since.

  • @Lone_GamerUK
    @Lone_GamerUK 2 года назад

    If streaming is the wheel FF and TF too loud? I.e picked up on mic a lot? Hearing that the TF is just speakers in the wheel concern me?

  • @d3rflex
    @d3rflex 3 года назад

    Hey, at 3:57 you said the shifter dieser show up. So I have the G29 with the shifter and it doesn't show up neither. I have also looked in some forums and stuff but there was no answer to my question. Ingame the buttons are all "random" if you can call it like that, what i mean is, the x button is the third gear or the share button r2, can someone please help me, it's really annoying. Thank you :)

  • @azaralamouri5140
    @azaralamouri5140 4 года назад +11

    I learned a lesson in life, every new technology risks being unreliable and expensive to repair in after a few years. Car enthusiasts know what I'm talking about.
    G923 has +'s and -'s:
    + Extreme reliability, durability, solidness, economy and reasonable price point.
    - I expected them to implement huge changes due to the major insane technological advancements during the last 15 years: (examples: hall magnetic sensors, load cells, hydraulic pedals, belt wheels, direct drive wheels, game telemetry FFB, analogue paddles, magnetic shifters, tactile gear sticks, motion simulators...).

    • @GabrielDuarte654
      @GabrielDuarte654 4 года назад +1

      I learned something from g27 to g29, the goal in logitech is the main stream, to have the entry wheel, if you want to have more precision, try the fanatec wheels, or simucube with direct drive, but the logitech is a good start in sim racing
      Ps: i own a g27 but expect the g29 to have more ffb response and to rotate 1080 which never happened, so i bought a direct drive with load cell pedals which is way better

    • @1barnet1
      @1barnet1 4 года назад +1

      @@GabrielDuarte654
      No they are not with the rattling gear and numb deadzone at center. Thrustmaster is a good start for sim racing.

    • @GabrielDuarte654
      @GabrielDuarte654 4 года назад +1

      @@1barnet1 i live in brazil, and logitech is way cheaper, but i'm a hardcore simracer so i accepted to pay more for better equipment

    • @1barnet1
      @1barnet1 4 года назад

      @@GabrielDuarte654
      What does the T300 cost in Brasil or the T150 with the T3PA pedals? Even the T150 has better force feedback then this.

    • @azaralamouri5140
      @azaralamouri5140 4 года назад +1

      @@1barnet1 You're not putting cost into consideration, Thrustmaster is smoother and Fanatec is stronger, but they are not same as reliable as Logitech's and I tried them ALL (yes all).

  • @dacringe
    @dacringe 3 года назад +7

    I love how he pronounces ASSETTO CORDA COMPETIZIONE

    • @dacringe
      @dacringe 3 года назад +3

      No homo

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  3 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @ilovelol2642
      @ilovelol2642 3 года назад

      @@MattsPaddock as an italian i have to agree that it is pretty close on how it is done right. better than any reviewer until now

    • @davidnassif5114
      @davidnassif5114 3 года назад +1

      @@ilovelol2642 meanwhile im over here going competsopizzano lmao

  • @Donnerwamp
    @Donnerwamp 3 года назад +1

    Bought my G29 for 299€ incl. shifter and got 50€ back because it had some scratches as the screw of the metal ring came lose in shipping. That's a good price for it I'd say.

  • @jeffmartin8377
    @jeffmartin8377 4 года назад

    Can not wait to get a new wheels and pedals great option until I can afford racing seat setup.

  • @iiStryker360
    @iiStryker360 4 года назад +9

    Dammit!! I JUST bought the G29

    • @etamm1343
      @etamm1343 4 года назад +3

      How much you payed? If you didn't pay 400 bucks then I don't see the problem, literally nothing changed in the new version except for the design and that vibration

    • @ryroxfr8427
      @ryroxfr8427 4 года назад

      Same but I don't think it's a bad choice

    • @iiStryker360
      @iiStryker360 4 года назад +1

      eTamm I paid $299 for G29. After re-reading @LogitechG G923 announcement tweet they do state their current gen wheels will support XSX and PS5 pending MS/Sony approval

    • @Dwaynegarcia17
      @Dwaynegarcia17 4 года назад +2

      Were on the same boat

    • @HtotheG
      @HtotheG 3 года назад

      Same but how much changed for real?

  • @ItsEphora
    @ItsEphora 3 года назад +61

    400$ for a gear-driven wheel...

    • @maceocapietto4090
      @maceocapietto4090 3 года назад +9

      Go to thrustmaster and buy a t300rs, and tlcm pedals for 450€, and you’re done, load cell, 2 time the force (4/2 nm)

    • @slickempslkhrs9975
      @slickempslkhrs9975 3 года назад

      @@maceocapietto4090 Does that work on the PS4?

    • @azzurirodrinata7646
      @azzurirodrinata7646 3 года назад

      @@slickempslkhrs9975 yep but its actually 3.9nm ffb

    • @slickempslkhrs9975
      @slickempslkhrs9975 3 года назад

      @@azzurirodrinata7646 ohh okay, I've got the g29, what's the nm difference between them both?

  • @Stimm002
    @Stimm002 Год назад +1

    The new pedals are much better for a budget setup. The 2 stage clutch is useful where it can be used.

  • @kasuraga
    @kasuraga 3 года назад

    I was wondering what this trueforce thing they were talking about was cause they didn't describe it well at ALL anywhere and now I see why.
    When you showed how it sounds with no speakers I realized what they were doing. They're passing audio signals into the motors to cause them to vibrate like speakers, and since it's a gear drive, it buzzes the crap out of your hands. That explains why you said it was sometimes unpleasant. I couldn't figure it out till I saw how it sounds on its own.
    no wonder why they don't seem to describe how it works.

  • @amcheung10
    @amcheung10 3 года назад +10

    Has anyone told you that you sound like Dmitry from Hardware Canucks

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  3 года назад +2

      Yeah, I get that a lot 😂

    • @normundsstarkovs6625
      @normundsstarkovs6625 3 года назад

      @@MattsPaddock I randomly clicked on this video, and while reading the comments actually scrolled up to check if it was Hardware Canucks. Anyway, nice video TekTick, very helpful! :)

  • @kimmoro7956
    @kimmoro7956 4 года назад +45

    So... Same "shit" in new package that has only newly branded with small changes..
    400e for that is waste of money If you look other brands in same price category..

    • @trevz1048
      @trevz1048 4 года назад +7

      Would rather spend a bit more on a fanatec

    • @angelmorenofarias5086
      @angelmorenofarias5086 4 года назад +2

      This wheels is the best for a tight budget, it's also really great. Fanatec is really expensive. If you suck at driving, you don't deserve a Fanatec wheel.

    • @kimmoro7956
      @kimmoro7956 4 года назад +6

      @@angelmorenofarias5086 No it's not. I would rather go with more smoother belt driven t300 or T150 if small budget, or spend little bit more to get Fanatec csl set on 550e.

    • @ryanmolyneaux7615
      @ryanmolyneaux7615 4 года назад +9

      @@angelmorenofarias5086 it's not about deserving it its if you can afford it

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад

      @@trevz1048 "a bit more", you mean literally 3x more just for the most basic package. Fanatec makes the best gear on the market and you pay a massive price for it.

  • @jonde_o
    @jonde_o 2 года назад +2

    I bought G29 around 3 years ago still works very well.
    I have wondered should i buy a new belt driven wheel might soon go for a Fanatec etc but i need to buy some flight/space sticks and stuff first
    And i also need an wheel mainly for ETS2/ATS so not in a hurry as G29 is quite enough for that and it surely does have enough buttons for trucking
    G923 REALLY was an let down cash grab

  • @jordancogley2358
    @jordancogley2358 3 года назад +1

    i have owned the g920 and g29 and raced competitevely with them , your feedback is very useful ty, subscribing and liking right now your underrated

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  3 года назад +1

      Thank you, much appreciated!

    • @jordancogley2358
      @jordancogley2358 3 года назад

      @@MattsPaddock legendary I'm gonna watch some of your other videos to now also my fav game is assetto but I have had too many hours on pcars and f1😂

  • @ellypsis603
    @ellypsis603 4 года назад +9

    Cant wait for the new Gran Turismo

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад

      Me too!

    • @michaeljimenez8784
      @michaeljimenez8784 4 года назад +1

      I’m thinking to buy this to play GT SPORT until the 7 monster comes out.
      PS. I don’t have a wheel yet

  • @netcald991
    @netcald991 4 года назад +6

    'if it's broken don't fix it' phrase is stupid. Where would TV's, phones and computers be if we followed that.

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +2

      True! I was just making a observation, I'm not too keen on that phrase either 😅

    • @netcald991
      @netcald991 4 года назад

      @@MattsPaddock oh, of course. You were just stating what Logitech are doing and I was critising logitech

    • @finck9226
      @finck9226 3 года назад

      lol they would be outta business. tvs last a solid 5 years at best these days they are made to replace ever few years just like everything else in this day and age

  • @Vexies
    @Vexies 3 года назад +2

    Haha, I was a bit scared, I just got the g29 yesterday. So I was a bit worried I should've waited lol

  • @oz9478
    @oz9478 Год назад

    Amazing video!

  • @bill392
    @bill392 3 года назад +7

    For this price point, I would have expected brushless force-feedback motors. Brushed motors are cheap as dirt to manufacturer and the brushes/commutator wears out quickly in this mode of operation. My experience over the past 20 years has learned that Logitech products are grossly over-priced, cheaply made, and don't work all that well. Their webcams are very expensive and have a lousy picture compared to many other much cheaper brands/models.

    • @pikkyuukyuun4741
      @pikkyuukyuun4741 Год назад +1

      funny. Ive read comments of Logi wheels withstanding the test of time. I myself bought a used Driving force gt, a product released from 2007 and maybe ended production in 2015

  • @alexflosho
    @alexflosho 3 года назад +3

    No, there's a difference in the brakes

  • @Xxsuperdudex
    @Xxsuperdudex 3 года назад

    Bought the g923 yesterday, using it on xbox one s and I have 0 complaints!

  • @homurayurisquad1423
    @homurayurisquad1423 Год назад

    is a g25 shifter compatible with either? i like having buttons on the side to ebrake, and snap pics while drifting in FH

  • @H31MU7
    @H31MU7 4 года назад +14

    I still have my old G25 and don't really see a point in upgrading...

    • @GadgetHeadlines
      @GadgetHeadlines 4 года назад

      How old is it? Are the plastic legs still holding on? Did you had to change anything on it in these years at all?

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +2

      Yeah, I was about to ask that too 😁

    • @yubos98
      @yubos98 4 года назад

      The noise G25 makes even compared to 27 is already a reason for an upgrade IMO.

    • @joelharris8475
      @joelharris8475 4 года назад +2

      There really isn’t any point unless you want to delve into the Fanatec range

    • @burkielol
      @burkielol 4 года назад

      G920 ftw! :D

  • @wedge_one
    @wedge_one 3 года назад +5

    Your ACC settings for the G29/923 are not the ideal ones. These are the optimal settings according to Aris (their physics engineer):
    Gain: 100%
    Min Force: 12% to 14%
    Damping: 30% to 40%
    Road: Pretty low, like 8%

  • @Mystical_Zeus
    @Mystical_Zeus 3 года назад

    I am hoping this will sort of flood the market with mid range wheels and LOWER the overall price of mid range gear driven decently thought out wheels. lets be honest. the G29/G920 feel like theyre gonna break sometimes. mine wiggles left to right horizontally left to right and feels like the gears themselves have play. Question: does anyone else have this issue? i know people get it to wiggle up and down but i havent found anyone that has my issue.

  • @dr.peeper956
    @dr.peeper956 2 года назад

    I asked for a steering wheel for Christmas and my grandparents bought me this. that's all fine and dandy until you realize the whole "I want a steering wheel so bad." was just a phase.....
    just started using it again though so i guess its fine.

  • @InferiorSerperior
    @InferiorSerperior 3 года назад +5

    the g923 came out,
    so the g29's price will come down...
    So i will finally be able to buy a g25

    • @Aomicplane
      @Aomicplane 3 года назад +1

      Just buy a G27 set for 50 dollars that has calibration issues and fix it with a 10 cent washer like i did.

    • @smithsfan425
      @smithsfan425 3 года назад

      @@Aomicplane can this power be learned?

  • @Berkay-xl4hu
    @Berkay-xl4hu 4 года назад +29

    This is a joke, still a toy size wheel...

    • @MattsPaddock
      @MattsPaddock  4 года назад +6

      Yeah, I think that the real racing wheel are usually from 14 to 17", this one is below 12". Friend of mine actually upgraded it 😁

    • @evolicious
      @evolicious 3 года назад +1

      Nope, that's the right size wheel for most enthusiast platform cars. Go hold a Momo wheel. If it was too small and toy-sized, they would not sell at all.

    • @sevenseven1616
      @sevenseven1616 3 года назад +11

      @@evolicious not even formula 1 wheels are this small

    • @jymmy8312
      @jymmy8312 3 года назад

      The size is just perfect.

    • @Simlife101
      @Simlife101 3 года назад +5

      @@evolicious but its not aimed at those cars really its aimed at console gaming which are mostly F1 and GT3 these wheels are really small. Even my son said dad its like a toy lol

  • @aleksiesko885
    @aleksiesko885 3 года назад

    thinking about upgrading from logitech driving force pro from 2004 lol.. i bet it still feels exactly the same

  • @elgabox91
    @elgabox91 2 года назад

    Found a new logitech g29 for $150. At that price it was a steal!. I am comfortable with the force feedback