I love your video format. Not only was this an informative video, but the way you lay things out in such a no-nonsense way was appreciated. Valid questions followed by quick solid answers. Thanks.
I have one of these bad boys, and if you’re not gonna buy something like a fanatec FFB setup, this is your best bet. Funnily enough, I only really play GT7 on it using a PS5. But the right sim bundled with the right wheel, it’s really nice to race with and true force functions really well. In Britain, if you see one of these on sale for £ 240 - 270, and you’ve been looking for a beginners wheel for yourself, just go ahead and get it. You won’t be disappointed. Don’t go and buy a PXN wheel or a £ 100 thrustmaster one. I owned a PXN V9 and not only did the website and app have spelling mistakes in it, it’s the crappiest wheel you can buy.
It is. The Logitech G29/G923 when used right is good. I'd recommend people not to follow/listen to negative comments about this wheel. At some point I would like to get a DD wheel, but I will continue using the G29 for older and arcade games on older consoles not supported by current DD wheels.
I just told a friend (Who is more into sim racing) I ordered the G923 and knew that there are better wheels. He was like cancel the order and get a Moza R5 because it is DD. I was like I want to at least start with this and see if I even want to invest more money and time. He was like they cost the same (They dont). I need a baseline to start with so IF I upgrade I will know what the lesser wheel felt like. Also I can return the the G923 within 90 days so I have plenty of time to mess around with it and see if I even want to get into sim racing. He said he was not mad but seemed a little peeved I did not do what he wanted by cancelling my order. I did look up the Moza and it is sold out so I could not even get it anyways. Also I would not be able to return it like I can with the G923 (Got from Amazon as a renew aka refurbished item...90 days refund or exchange)
@@davidbarnes6410 I could get the better and more expensive wheel but I honestly want to get the G923 first....use it for a few and when and if I upgrade I will be able to see/feel the difference myself over someone telling me. I trust my friend but he just feels get the BEST first...which I agree in some cases but in this case...I can get a full refund in 90 days so I am not losing money getting the G923 no matter if I upgrade or not and return it.
Looking to buy this wheel next week just for casual sim driving or racing. Not a huge fan of races, so totally not planning on going high-end, and it seems this wheel does a perfect job. For things like Dirt Rally, ETS and a few others that don't come to mind right now, for me it'll do
Started with a G923. At first I thought it was faulty, it was SO noisy, then learnt that’s how they are. Served its purpose, but have a Simucube 2 Pro now.
Hi My entry into Sim Racing was the Thrustmaster TX RW Leather Edition Wheel, TX (T300) servo base, & pedal set. That served for a couple of years. Upgraded to Fanatec CSL DD, McLaren V2 wheel, & Thrustmaster TLCM pedal set with a brake mod. For now, this is pretty satisfying. Though, I want to upgrade pedals sooner than later.
I'm looking to get into to sim racing as a way to help me learn how to drive . Do you think it can help ? If so which is more beneficial a fanatec csl dd with a wrc wheel or just a simple logitech g23?
I'm currently running and modding a G923. So far I've wired in an external handbrake "V1" and actually just installed the kit to put my button box in front of my deep dish wheel and have been in contact with the seller from etsy. Had a bit of an issue with the 3D printed paddles but he just sent me a new set I'm gonna try em out tomorrow. This is my 2nd one in about a year, first one was used, this one was new, and I'm loving the modability of it. I will say, I do plan on upgrading to the $1400 Logitech Pro direct drive in the future, but for now I plan on modding the hell out of my 923 and keeping it as an extra setup.
I just bought this for dirt 2.0 and Ea WRC . The force this make with everything on 100% "default" feels like it will brake your arms or at least burn loads of calories lol. It took a few hours to get the G Hub settings and in-game settings sorted it feels great, I get what you say tho I got mine for £250 from Currys but £300 may have put me off. Next up is the seat and mount, it's great attached to a computer table but feels to loud but I'm told it's not actually that loud
One of the better reviews for this wheel that I've seen. I'm currently looking for a wheel for SIM racing, but my problem is that I'm a 70 year old man who's driven many different sports cars with manual transmissions on fast mountain roads since the 70's so I have certain expectations as far as feel and feedback is concerned from the steering and pedals. I also have a limited budget, so basically I'm between a hard place and a rock. So I guess my only options are to either settle and buy a G923 (US$280 new as of 2024) or look around for a good deal on a used Fanatec or other high end setup. I've been looking at Logitech's Pro steering wheel too, but it may be priced a little beyond what I can afford with pedals and shifter. Thanks for your honest review, especially on pointing out how an older and more experienced driver might feel about the G923 or any other beginner wheel.
A quality review as always, but what an uptick in production quality and editing - great stuff. I used a G29 for many years, and it served me well. It's maybe not as durable as Logitech's older offerings, like the Driving Force GT, but it is a great starter wheel and can push you well into the future if you choose to stick with it. I reached my ultimate pace with it, and in a roundabout trickle-down way I wouldn't be in my current career in Esports' orbit without my G29 and what I was able to extract from it. I'll also vouch for AXC. It's quality stuff, works perfectly, and I wouldn't go anywhere else if you need to freshen up your pedals. My G29's pedals were threadbare, with a non-functional clutch and a cheap potentiometer kit with some badly 3D-printed gears - I dropped in three AXC pots and a wiring harness, and they were good as new. I refurbished the pedals to hand my G29 down to my girlfriend's little brother and I can rest easy knowing that he'll be heel-toeing and trailbraking for a good long while, and will recommend the TrueBrake if he gets a rig and needs something harder.
The brake pedal really lets it down but is quite easily sorted. I quite like mine but when I jumped on a fanatec setup it's night and day. You won't get faster on a better wheel necessarily but your consistency certainly will. I couldn't believe how much easier lapping was on the fanatec I tried. I would say though, I don't remember which fanatec wheel I was on but, the logitechs buttons (apart from shifters) felt loads better than the pricer fanatec.
@@blastofo there's a rubber stopper in it that makes it way too stiff by default, like you can barely even reach 100% and it's super inconsistent. Removing that rubber makes it tons better but then it reaches 100% input in-game before actually being physically pressed all the way in. So for me I'm using the clutch pedal to brake instead, it was difficult to get used to because it's so light and has little travel but it works.
The best review i have ever seen. i had been planning to get a racing wheels for like a lot of time but finally i will buy one and this video was really good to help me understand how it works. Thanks!
Making the jump to G923 after putting in 774 hrs using a controller. I'm sure I'd want a DD, but I just want to be able to steer precisely and lift off the brake/throttle precisely, both are so hard on the controller as it's all in your thumbs and index fingers. But appreciate the review, I can temper expectations while still being excited about it.
That's why I always leave my comments open and unedited, takes more than just my single opinion to make a video genuine! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment - appreciated
i got 1 of these 3 months ago. i caught the bug and now the 200-400 is saved getting this and not better entry rig can go toward the begining of my final build. just ordered a profile rig. and saving for wheel n pedals. oh the $ i will spend... but i love it even on a g923 for now
I use the G923 on ACC and im quicker than my 2 mates who both have the Fanatec Mclaren wheels and pedals. That's why i haven't made the jump yet. I love jumping on ACC and doing the LFM daily races, normally in the top 10 and quite often get podium finshes. Ive played on the DD wheels and to be honest im not any quicker than with my G923 which is much better than what these youtube reviews make out. Dont be scared off by these guys who think they are above using Logitech. The wheels and pedals are perfectly fine and you can be competitive with them.
I paid NZ$373 (US$225 or £180) here in New Zealand (including shipping) for a brand new Logitech G923 last month, the PlayStation version. What a bargain. I did try out my friend’s Fanatec DD Pro 8nm and that was amazing! But it’s more than 4 times the price of my Logitech wheel set. I will hopefully upgrade one day, but for now I’m having a blast. I’m much slower around tracks using the wheel than I was using a remote control, but I am improving bit by bit. I’m an older player, so my reflexes aren’t what they use to be - LOL
To be brutally honest it's a cheap plastic toy but I've grown to love it for what it is. 300 euros may sound like a lot to spend, but considering that it's a wheel base, rim, pedals and desk clamp all in one with no need to think about anything else, it's honestly a great package. And yes, you will still have tons of fun with it and you can still be fast with it on a sim and have great races. I've just ordered my first DD wheel and the amount of tiny details and technicalities to consider was just immense. I'm sure it will be worth it in the end, but the simplicity is something I'll miss about the G29 for sure.
Thank you for this review. I'm really struggling which wheel I should buy. I'm a 56 years old "casual player" playing mostly GT7 on PS5 and I think I will never become a fanatic Sim-Racer due to a lack of time. So I don't know if I should buy the G923 or spend a little bit more for a Thrustmaster or something else. There is a combined offre in my country at the moment for a G923 together with Playseat Challenge X for about 490 USD. Any advices ?
Just picked up a G923 for 400 NZD, 192 pounds sterling. A bonafide bargain at that price. Enjoying it so far but boy I have a lot to learn, especially when it comes to braking
@@ninawitdanina yes! Really enjoying it. It's definitely a learning curve though, turning off all the all abs, traction and asm in search of quicker lap times is a big adjustment 🙂.
@@ultinarnolds7401I have it mounted on a metal stand, you know those collapsible ones? And yes it makes quite a racket on that. Noisier than I expected
Surely the Thrustmaster and Logitech wheels are the only options for console racers. The Moza and Ci???? (cant remember its name) afaik are pc only. I know Fanatec too, but outta average racers price range.
Feels like there's really not much to choose from when it comes to these kits. I don't like the noise of G923 but also T300 is notorious for it's poor durability. But there's almost nothing else there before you must spend +1k on this setup. Or they are not supported on whatever game/platform you are trying to play.
You are correct, I'm a mid 40 year old Forza "controller" racer that just decided to get a wheel set-up. I have this G923 for about a week and it doesn't "wow" me one bit. About to return this and look for a DD setup (Fanatec CSL DD) and see if I get more of a fun factor out of it. I just wanted to dip my toe into sim-racing but it looks like I'm going to have to open up my wallet a little more than I expected.
sad to hear that it didnt meet your expectations, ive been using the g923 for years now and it currently has over 3k hours of use for me, very fun wheel imo
Not watching anymore vids on this wheel, seems like it gets bashed. My last wheel was a DFGT, used the hell out of it and was impressed, so I’m sure this will be a generous upgrade from that
It gets bashed for the same reasons Vauxhall Corsas get bashed - it's a basic bit of kit in the grand scheme of things, but you'll find many people used to have one and are still sim racing today, so it can't have been that bad!
I just got into sim racing and I chose the G923. Being new, it's obvious I am not experienced with other wheels, but so far I am really enjoying my G923. I think the build quality and feel are great for the price. I think the Force Feedback is pretty good, though that varies with games. GT7 has good feedback, but ACC has really great feedback. My biggest complaint is the brake pedal. It feels way too stiff for me. While I am getting a bit more used to it, I still may search for a mod. I've heard people switch the clutch and brake pedal springs (I'm thinking about this) or people buying the aftermarket mod that was advertised at the beginning of this video (also thinking about this). I bought a nice Playseat Logitech simrig, so this wheel is mounted very well on it, and I am having a blast. I wanted to make sure I would fall for the sport of sim racing before buying expensive wheels. Plus, I ended up with 2 of them! haha I wanted to be able to swap the wheel out between PS5 (GT7) and Xbox (Forza) and see what platform I enjoyed better before going with an expensive wheel.
Not sure if you have checked but I'm pretty sure there's a rubber stop in the brake pedal housing that you can take out which makes the brake alot easier to press. The rubber stop is meant to simulate a more real gt car feel I guess but alot of people have had your concerns and resolved it by removing it
Most people suggest to get t300, only problem is they arent available for purchase directly from any retailers in my country. I could import one at a premium of almost double the price, so im stuck with having to choose between g29 and g923
Great video, thank you. Can you turn the gear mechanism completely off? I just want to replace my controller - I'd be happy with something that just vibrated with no force feedback.
@@dannyleeracing or 10 years like my broke self did with my g27. My advice, when you do upgrade from g-series, skip t300 or a belt driven “better wheel”. Save your money and go straight to DD. 😊
I would recommend the Thrustmaster TX as a "starter" wheel, yes it's a bit more pricey, but it is a wheel that won't hold you back and will take you to the point where you're ready to go to town on a sim.
That's good input - I always welcome 'votes in favour', it could well have been that I started on Thrustmaster rather than Logitech and I would be saying the same things - it's a coin flip!
@@papi_chulo69420 Only the CSL DD base. You'd still need pedals and a wheel. I have actually made this upgrade from the TX though, and it is indeed totally worth it.
I’m assuming the Logitech wheels aren’t like real cars where the wheel wants to naturally go back after making turns but I don’t have one yet and it would be cool if it did. I’m mainly getting one for Forza and simpler games so I’m pretty hyped
I just grabbed one of these refurb for like 190 USD, which seems a much better place to be than 300-380 quid, which according to google is like 379 - 480 USD.
I've definitely heard of people like this - I am betting that the pro in question spent about 10,000 hours on their G25, and something like that would be woven into your DNA almost. For the humans, though, there will be a limit on how far the Logitech wheels can feasibly take you.
@@dannyleeracing He ended up beating his G25 times with the expensive simulator equipment, but it took like two days to reduce by 0.1s. The G25 was his first racing wheel 16 years ago but it had been dusting on a shelf for a decade. I guess no matter the level of realism, it's still videogame after all.
Yes, I asked Bing how to do it and I was guided thru the steps (for Steam on PC). It included downloading an upgrade, and making some settings on Steam. The directions from Bing were very clear and it worked. Now I can use the steering wheel and pedals in my virtual Ferrari. Good luck. @@Jentzz
My argument for this wheel, which I’m thinking about purchasing is that I just want to wheel and anything cheaper than this one is utterly terrible or doesn’t have any force feedback. The way I want force feedback is informational, cheaper wheels with no force feedback, or terrible force feedback, don’t give me any more information than a controller. I don’t care if the force feedback is weak as long as it’s decently accurate. Racing is my goal not immersion. I will get enough of that from my VR headset lol.
I am a little bit confused. I just bought an g923 and mine got a switch on top to change between ps4/pc like the g29 despite the fact that it should not have one....and yes it is a g923,all black buttons,trueforce logo and a G on the whell instead of an PS logo.
Although there's not a huge difference between belt driven and direct drive, gear driven wheelbases are awful. They sound like they're breaking, all the time it's in use, avoid like the plague. I would say that it's probably worth spending a little more for an entry level direct drive system from Cammus, Fanatec or Moza, even if you decide sim racing isn't for you, it'll be easier to sell a direct drive system. I would buy a belt drive especially if you can get a ready to go system at a good price.
dO you know what to do, when G923 shows up in windows hardware, joy.cpl and in logitech g hub, but does not calibrate nor communicate otherwise with the computer?
I've just started playing with a G29, and I feel like I have to press the accelerator a bit too much before anything happens? Subtle touches on the pedal doesn't have any effect, and it's really impacting my game after playing with the controller for years. I guess maybe I just need to get used to it🤷🏼♂ It doesn't really feel realistic though, that bit.
I did go for the G29 instead of the 923 as the trueforce seemed like a gimmick to me. I play truck Sims and beamng mainly in VR and it's perfect (noisy yes, but much more durable than the belt driven counterparts).
I’m glad I bought this rather than the fanatec only because I’m disappointed in sim racing in general. Other then that I’m not impressed with the wheel either
Sorry but I am stuck with getting help. I have a G923 with pedals. I am playing ETS-2. How do I get the LEDs to work? To indicate the revs - I'm guessing. Looking in the wheel's program - it says it is up to date - I don't see any mention of the LEDs. In ETS-2 (latest version) I can't find any setting to control the LEDs there either. It isn't I'm dumping this problem on you. Just I can't see to find the magical missing trick.
@@Vextoh So does ETS-2? Not that I expect you to know, but I am confused that I see all these claims it does. Yeah, "Ask them".... Just you showed it working (ok, not no ETS-2) but I have to start somewhere.
@@BossMan-vb6pi As far as I know the lights only work with racing games (yes to indicate revs). From what I read about ETS-2 and ATS is that the lights do not work unless you use a 3rd party program like (fanaLEDs)
@@Vextoh I have that and it doesn't see the wheel. I'll have to take it up with the person who wrote that program. Weirdly - though - I see the wheel in the program's GUI. I just can't get it in one of the drop down things.
Im still wondering what the step above this wheel would be? When it comes to wheels for console ot seems like its just this or the Thrustmaster TMX. Any recommendations?
Totally fair statement - if you KNOW you're gonna be mad about sim racing then skip the logitech if the budget allows. Mid-tier is where the real fun starts
Great video, covered my questions but created new ones, I would love to know more about mid or high end options and I have seen some pro models are not compatible with a gear shifter which is something I want to have. Any recommendations for a high or mid that can have gear shifter and brake handle?
im wanting this wheel but for drifting on assesto corsa and and actual racing on gran tursimo will this cut it for asseto corsa and if i try to pair it with an amazon usb hand break is it going to work?
Never had the ability to have one Always wanted one was born in the 80 s i watched the technology improve and my friends always had something to drive with I just ordered my first wheel its the 923 on an Xbox one I cant wait to get into the race
@@dannyleeracing i just picked up a tube of lithium grease for plastic on plastic-made friction. I think this should solve it based on a youtube vid, but we'll see!
@@dannyleeracing no I know that works but there is a handbrake system u can get for the pc I wanted to know if it will work on the g23 as it’s only made for the g29 and above systems
I got a g923 two months ago. For the price it is amazing. The only problem currently is the extra buttons aren't supported on xbox and there is a glitch in f1 23 atm where there is no ffb. The final issue is on EA not on the wheel
Thanks dude - won't be able to touch on the SRP accessory kit for a long time I'm afraid - got a couple equipment things I'd love to get done, but then I'm going back to the tutorials!
You have to get the Xbox or PS5 edition, I don't think it works on both. I can't say from experience, but information online says they can't mix. Both editions are compatible with PC, though
I love your video format. Not only was this an informative video, but the way you lay things out in such a no-nonsense way was appreciated. Valid questions followed by quick solid answers. Thanks.
Thanks, man!
Got my g29 in 2018. Still going strong and love using it. You dont have to spend a fortune to have a great experience.
Too right - my G25 pulled a 7 year shift, I was gifted a G29 back in 2018 and that carried through to 2020. They are tough if not strong!
trueforce, VR, and a vibration chair is bannas
I have one of these bad boys, and if you’re not gonna buy something like a fanatec FFB setup, this is your best bet.
Funnily enough, I only really play GT7 on it using a PS5. But the right sim bundled with the right wheel, it’s really nice to race with and true force functions really well.
In Britain, if you see one of these on sale for £ 240 - 270, and you’ve been looking for a beginners wheel for yourself, just go ahead and get it. You won’t be disappointed.
Don’t go and buy a PXN wheel or a £ 100 thrustmaster one. I owned a PXN V9 and not only did the website and app have spelling mistakes in it, it’s the crappiest wheel you can buy.
So, the TrueForce is definitely noticeable on GT7? I’m on the fence right now…..
It is. The Logitech G29/G923 when used right is good. I'd recommend people not to follow/listen to negative comments about this wheel. At some point I would like to get a DD wheel, but I will continue using the G29 for older and arcade games on older consoles not supported by current DD wheels.
Agreed. Too many fan boys put bad names on cheaper (works perfectly fine) products.
I’ve never used a wheel before but I do want to have a better experience and turn to sim racing. I think this a great start.
I just told a friend (Who is more into sim racing) I ordered the G923 and knew that there are better wheels. He was like cancel the order and get a Moza R5 because it is DD. I was like I want to at least start with this and see if I even want to invest more money and time. He was like they cost the same (They dont). I need a baseline to start with so IF I upgrade I will know what the lesser wheel felt like. Also I can return the the G923 within 90 days so I have plenty of time to mess around with it and see if I even want to get into sim racing.
He said he was not mad but seemed a little peeved I did not do what he wanted by cancelling my order. I did look up the Moza and it is sold out so I could not even get it anyways. Also I would not be able to return it like I can with the G923 (Got from Amazon as a renew aka refurbished item...90 days refund or exchange)
@@jcaashby3 good one mate. As they say you gotta crawl before you walk. I’m doing the same as you. Getting the G923 soon. ✌️
@@davidbarnes6410 I could get the better and more expensive wheel but I honestly want to get the G923 first....use it for a few and when and if I upgrade I will be able to see/feel the difference myself over someone telling me.
I trust my friend but he just feels get the BEST first...which I agree in some cases but in this case...I can get a full refund in 90 days so I am not losing money getting the G923 no matter if I upgrade or not and return it.
Looking to buy this wheel next week just for casual sim driving or racing. Not a huge fan of races, so totally not planning on going high-end, and it seems this wheel does a perfect job. For things like Dirt Rally, ETS and a few others that don't come to mind right now, for me it'll do
you can get them for 200
Started with a G923. At first I thought it was faulty, it was SO noisy, then learnt that’s how they are. Served its purpose, but have a Simucube 2 Pro now.
It's a proper clatter-bang sometimes, and considering it's one of the weakest wheels it sure loves making the most noise!
This is the BEST review of the Logitech G923 wheel! I'm so glad you cleared up what that sticker with the child on it means! : )
His answer for the description of the child sticker is hilarious. I hope he doesn't mind if I borrow that.
Hi
My entry into Sim Racing was the Thrustmaster TX RW Leather Edition Wheel, TX (T300) servo base, & pedal set.
That served for a couple of years. Upgraded to Fanatec CSL DD, McLaren V2 wheel, & Thrustmaster TLCM pedal set with a brake mod.
For now, this is pretty satisfying. Though, I want to upgrade pedals sooner than later.
I'm looking to get into to sim racing as a way to help me learn how to drive . Do you think it can help ? If so which is more beneficial a fanatec csl dd with a wrc wheel or just a simple logitech g23?
@@interestingvideos4046im late but it can help you irl if you play the right games with the right cars and yes fanatec is better
I´ve never seen a review as well made as this one. I give this review a personal 10/10
Mate you reviewed my review
Teammate i see..
I'm currently running and modding a G923. So far I've wired in an external handbrake "V1" and actually just installed the kit to put my button box in front of my deep dish wheel and have been in contact with the seller from etsy.
Had a bit of an issue with the 3D printed paddles but he just sent me a new set I'm gonna try em out tomorrow.
This is my 2nd one in about a year, first one was used, this one was new, and I'm loving the modability of it. I will say, I do plan on upgrading to the $1400 Logitech Pro direct drive in the future, but for now I plan on modding the hell out of my 923 and keeping it as an extra setup.
I just bought this for dirt 2.0 and Ea WRC . The force this make with everything on 100% "default" feels like it will brake your arms or at least burn loads of calories lol. It took a few hours to get the G Hub settings and in-game settings sorted it feels great, I get what you say tho I got mine for £250 from Currys but £300 may have put me off. Next up is the seat and mount, it's great attached to a computer table but feels to loud but I'm told it's not actually that loud
One of the better reviews for this wheel that I've seen. I'm currently looking for a wheel for SIM racing, but my problem is that I'm a 70 year old man who's driven many different sports cars with manual transmissions on fast mountain roads since the 70's so I have certain expectations as far as feel and feedback is concerned from the steering and pedals. I also have a limited budget, so basically I'm between a hard place and a rock. So I guess my only options are to either settle and buy a G923 (US$280 new as of 2024) or look around for a good deal on a used Fanatec or other high end setup. I've been looking at Logitech's Pro steering wheel too, but it may be priced a little beyond what I can afford with pedals and shifter. Thanks for your honest review, especially on pointing out how an older and more experienced driver might feel about the G923 or any other beginner wheel.
I got mine for Christmas this year and I'm having a lot of fun with it
Excellent video, presentation and production.
My old man loves his gran turismo. Before he upgraded from his g29 he had over 100,000 kilometres of game play on it and was still in good condition
A quality review as always, but what an uptick in production quality and editing - great stuff.
I used a G29 for many years, and it served me well. It's maybe not as durable as Logitech's older offerings, like the Driving Force GT, but it is a great starter wheel and can push you well into the future if you choose to stick with it. I reached my ultimate pace with it, and in a roundabout trickle-down way I wouldn't be in my current career in Esports' orbit without my G29 and what I was able to extract from it.
I'll also vouch for AXC. It's quality stuff, works perfectly, and I wouldn't go anywhere else if you need to freshen up your pedals. My G29's pedals were threadbare, with a non-functional clutch and a cheap potentiometer kit with some badly 3D-printed gears - I dropped in three AXC pots and a wiring harness, and they were good as new. I refurbished the pedals to hand my G29 down to my girlfriend's little brother and I can rest easy knowing that he'll be heel-toeing and trailbraking for a good long while, and will recommend the TrueBrake if he gets a rig and needs something harder.
Thanks man, the new camera slider is pulling some serious weight here!
@@dannyleeracing First thing I noticed! Super clean, and good to see you in front of the camera as well 🍻
The brake pedal really lets it down but is quite easily sorted. I quite like mine but when I jumped on a fanatec setup it's night and day. You won't get faster on a better wheel necessarily but your consistency certainly will. I couldn't believe how much easier lapping was on the fanatec I tried. I would say though, I don't remember which fanatec wheel I was on but, the logitechs buttons (apart from shifters) felt loads better than the pricer fanatec.
Whats the problem with the brake pedal exactly?
@@blastofo honestly i can't remember I fifddled with it quite a while ago. I think it was too mushy if I remember
@@blastofo there's a rubber stopper in it that makes it way too stiff by default, like you can barely even reach 100% and it's super inconsistent. Removing that rubber makes it tons better but then it reaches 100% input in-game before actually being physically pressed all the way in. So for me I'm using the clutch pedal to brake instead, it was difficult to get used to because it's so light and has little travel but it works.
The best review i have ever seen. i had been planning to get a racing wheels for like a lot of time but finally i will buy one and this video was really good to help me understand how it works. Thanks!
Thanks so much, that's proper praise indeed and I hope to repeat it
Making the jump to G923 after putting in 774 hrs using a controller. I'm sure I'd want a DD, but I just want to be able to steer precisely and lift off the brake/throttle precisely, both are so hard on the controller as it's all in your thumbs and index fingers. But appreciate the review, I can temper expectations while still being excited about it.
Thought you were a little harsh on the force feeback for this wheel but that’s your opinion , just wanted say thanks for all the info, very useful.
That's why I always leave my comments open and unedited, takes more than just my single opinion to make a video genuine! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment - appreciated
What a great review. All the info that I needed to know
Thanks for the kind feedback, hope it was fun to watch
What mid tier wheel would you recommend?
What the Hell you are doing at 7:33! 😂
Yeah what is that cube 😂
@@Tobyiscoool lol he has the wheel mounted to the cockpit and hes steering with the wheel base absolute legend
Well structured review. Well done!
Cheers for watching and taking the time to comment!
i got 1 of these 3 months ago. i caught the bug and now the 200-400 is saved getting this and not better entry rig can go toward the begining of my final build. just ordered a profile rig. and saving for wheel n pedals. oh the $ i will spend... but i love it even on a g923 for now
I use the G923 on ACC and im quicker than my 2 mates who both have the Fanatec Mclaren wheels and pedals. That's why i haven't made the jump yet. I love jumping on ACC and doing the LFM daily races, normally in the top 10 and quite often get podium finshes. Ive played on the DD wheels and to be honest im not any quicker than with my G923 which is much better than what these youtube reviews make out. Dont be scared off by these guys who think they are above using Logitech. The wheels and pedals are perfectly fine and you can be competitive with them.
What about the g923 noise? Im quite afraid of not disturbing my roomate? Worth the upgrade to dd?
I paid NZ$373 (US$225 or £180) here in New Zealand (including shipping) for a brand new Logitech G923 last month, the PlayStation version. What a bargain. I did try out my friend’s Fanatec DD Pro 8nm and that was amazing! But it’s more than 4 times the price of my Logitech wheel set. I will hopefully upgrade one day, but for now I’m having a blast. I’m much slower around tracks using the wheel than I was using a remote control, but I am improving bit by bit. I’m an older player, so my reflexes aren’t what they use to be - LOL
To be brutally honest it's a cheap plastic toy but I've grown to love it for what it is. 300 euros may sound like a lot to spend, but considering that it's a wheel base, rim, pedals and desk clamp all in one with no need to think about anything else, it's honestly a great package. And yes, you will still have tons of fun with it and you can still be fast with it on a sim and have great races. I've just ordered my first DD wheel and the amount of tiny details and technicalities to consider was just immense. I'm sure it will be worth it in the end, but the simplicity is something I'll miss about the G29 for sure.
Thank you for this review. I'm really struggling which wheel I should buy. I'm a 56 years old "casual player" playing mostly GT7 on PS5 and I think I will never become a fanatic Sim-Racer due to a lack of time. So I don't know if I should buy the G923 or spend a little bit more for a Thrustmaster or something else. There is a combined offre in my country at the moment for a G923 together with Playseat Challenge X for about 490 USD. Any advices ?
Just picked up a G923 for 400 NZD, 192 pounds sterling. A bonafide bargain at that price. Enjoying it so far but boy I have a lot to learn, especially when it comes to braking
I'm about to get one for 190! Would u say its a good wheel?
@@ninawitdanina yes! Really enjoying it. It's definitely a learning curve though, turning off all the all abs, traction and asm in search of quicker lap times is a big adjustment 🙂.
@@Nickubus99does it make a noise?
@@ultinarnolds7401I have it mounted on a metal stand, you know those collapsible ones? And yes it makes quite a racket on that. Noisier than I expected
I just picked mine up for $260, cant wait to move away from a controller
Surely the Thrustmaster and Logitech wheels are the only options for console racers. The Moza and Ci???? (cant remember its name) afaik are pc only. I know Fanatec too, but outta average racers price range.
you never addressed the buttons, how to assign them, the lights. mine don't work, except on little green light on top. But thanks for the description
I've had a G920 for three years. Works fine for me.
Feels like there's really not much to choose from when it comes to these kits. I don't like the noise of G923 but also T300 is notorious for it's poor durability. But there's almost nothing else there before you must spend +1k on this setup. Or they are not supported on whatever game/platform you are trying to play.
You are correct, I'm a mid 40 year old Forza "controller" racer that just decided to get a wheel set-up. I have this G923 for about a week and it doesn't "wow" me one bit. About to return this and look for a DD setup (Fanatec CSL DD) and see if I get more of a fun factor out of it. I just wanted to dip my toe into sim-racing but it looks like I'm going to have to open up my wallet a little more than I expected.
sad to hear that it didnt meet your expectations, ive been using the g923 for years now and it currently has over 3k hours of use for me, very fun wheel imo
Not watching anymore vids on this wheel, seems like it gets bashed. My last wheel was a DFGT, used the hell out of it and was impressed, so I’m sure this will be a generous upgrade from that
It gets bashed for the same reasons Vauxhall Corsas get bashed - it's a basic bit of kit in the grand scheme of things, but you'll find many people used to have one and are still sim racing today, so it can't have been that bad!
I just got into sim racing and I chose the G923. Being new, it's obvious I am not experienced with other wheels, but so far I am really enjoying my G923. I think the build quality and feel are great for the price. I think the Force Feedback is pretty good, though that varies with games. GT7 has good feedback, but ACC has really great feedback. My biggest complaint is the brake pedal. It feels way too stiff for me. While I am getting a bit more used to it, I still may search for a mod. I've heard people switch the clutch and brake pedal springs (I'm thinking about this) or people buying the aftermarket mod that was advertised at the beginning of this video (also thinking about this). I bought a nice Playseat Logitech simrig, so this wheel is mounted very well on it, and I am having a blast. I wanted to make sure I would fall for the sport of sim racing before buying expensive wheels. Plus, I ended up with 2 of them! haha I wanted to be able to swap the wheel out between PS5 (GT7) and Xbox (Forza) and see what platform I enjoyed better before going with an expensive wheel.
Not sure if you have checked but I'm pretty sure there's a rubber stop in the brake pedal housing that you can take out which makes the brake alot easier to press. The rubber stop is meant to simulate a more real gt car feel I guess but alot of people have had your concerns and resolved it by removing it
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Most people suggest to get t300, only problem is they arent available for purchase directly from any retailers in my country. I could import one at a premium of almost double the price, so im stuck with having to choose between g29 and g923
Great video, thank you. Can you turn the gear mechanism completely off? I just want to replace my controller - I'd be happy with something that just vibrated with no force feedback.
I'm sure you can just turn force feedback off while leaving Trueforce enabled, though that'll definitely be an uncommon way to use it!
I still use this wheel after two years. It feels reasonable. But after multiple years I feel ready to move on. Probably to a Moza
A couple of years is a good shift
@@dannyleeracing or 10 years like my broke self did with my g27. My advice, when you do upgrade from g-series, skip t300 or a belt driven “better wheel”. Save your money and go straight to DD. 😊
I would recommend the Thrustmaster TX as a "starter" wheel, yes it's a bit more pricey, but it is a wheel that won't hold you back and will take you to the point where you're ready to go to town on a sim.
100%. also i love your videos
That's good input - I always welcome 'votes in favour', it could well have been that I started on Thrustmaster rather than Logitech and I would be saying the same things - it's a coin flip!
U can get a csl dd for the same price as a tx
@@papi_chulo69420 Only the CSL DD base. You'd still need pedals and a wheel. I have actually made this upgrade from the TX though, and it is indeed totally worth it.
@@ShadowRacingboth bundles are like 400. T300 is only worth it if you are on playstation
good review
Cheers
I’m assuming the Logitech wheels aren’t like real cars where the wheel wants to naturally go back after making turns but I don’t have one yet and it would be cool if it did. I’m mainly getting one for Forza and simpler games so I’m pretty hyped
currenttly about to buy a g923, great to hear tthat it isn't total crap. btw, didd no one notice 7:33 ???
I just grabbed one of these refurb for like 190 USD, which seems a much better place to be than 300-380 quid, which according to google is like 379 - 480 USD.
It's interesting, I saw a pro racer that plays on a high end simulator go back to his old G25 for testing and he reduced his times by 0.2s.
I've definitely heard of people like this - I am betting that the pro in question spent about 10,000 hours on their G25, and something like that would be woven into your DNA almost. For the humans, though, there will be a limit on how far the Logitech wheels can feasibly take you.
@@dannyleeracing He ended up beating his G25 times with the expensive simulator equipment, but it took like two days to reduce by 0.1s. The G25 was his first racing wheel 16 years ago but it had been dusting on a shelf for a decade. I guess no matter the level of realism, it's still videogame after all.
Will this work on a PC with a Steam game? I cannot seem to make Steam recognize it.
Did you figure it out? I’m wondering the same thing
Yes, I asked Bing how to do it and I was guided thru the steps (for Steam on PC). It included downloading an upgrade, and making some settings on Steam. The directions from Bing were very clear and it worked. Now I can use the steering wheel and pedals in my virtual Ferrari. Good luck. @@Jentzz
My argument for this wheel, which I’m thinking about purchasing is that I just want to wheel and anything cheaper than this one is utterly terrible or doesn’t have any force feedback. The way I want force feedback is informational, cheaper wheels with no force feedback, or terrible force feedback, don’t give me any more information than a controller. I don’t care if the force feedback is weak as long as it’s decently accurate. Racing is my goal not immersion. I will get enough of that from my VR headset lol.
I am a little bit confused.
I just bought an g923 and mine got a switch on top to change between ps4/pc like the g29 despite the fact that it should not have one....and yes it is a g923,all black buttons,trueforce logo and a G on the whell instead of an PS logo.
Although there's not a huge difference between belt driven and direct drive, gear driven wheelbases are awful. They sound like they're breaking, all the time it's in use, avoid like the plague. I would say that it's probably worth spending a little more for an entry level direct drive system from Cammus, Fanatec or Moza, even if you decide sim racing isn't for you, it'll be easier to sell a direct drive system. I would buy a belt drive especially if you can get a ready to go system at a good price.
Great place to start. I don't regret it.
dO you know what to do, when G923 shows up in windows hardware, joy.cpl and in logitech g hub, but does not calibrate nor communicate otherwise with the computer?
What’s the 2024 wheel I’m always looking for newer versions of anything
I bought mine at Costco. You can start here if you don’t like it they except returns for 5 years
with the rattling and the loud noises usually you could just grease it and it'll be dead silent
What about the g923 noise? Im quite afraid of not disturbing my roomate? Worth for me the upgrade to dd?
G923 is pretty noisy, so definitely go for a DD if you want to be quiet
I've just started playing with a G29, and I feel like I have to press the accelerator a bit too much before anything happens? Subtle touches on the pedal doesn't have any effect, and it's really impacting my game after playing with the controller for years. I guess maybe I just need to get used to it🤷🏼♂ It doesn't really feel realistic though, that bit.
its a game bro .. not a real life car
I did go for the G29 instead of the 923 as the trueforce seemed like a gimmick to me. I play truck Sims and beamng mainly in VR and it's perfect (noisy yes, but much more durable than the belt driven counterparts).
One I don't see 3 peddle bundles for the mid tier and they don't look like they will attach to my desk well. am I incorrect?
Can i hook this up to my ps2 if i have an adapter
I’m glad I bought this rather than the fanatec only because I’m disappointed in sim racing in general. Other then that I’m not impressed with the wheel either
What is the small circle on the steering wheel do?
Orders a cup of tea
Sorry but I am stuck with getting help.
I have a G923 with pedals. I am playing ETS-2.
How do I get the LEDs to work?
To indicate the revs - I'm guessing.
Looking in the wheel's program - it says it is up to date - I don't see any mention of the LEDs.
In ETS-2 (latest version) I can't find any setting to control the LEDs there either.
It isn't I'm dumping this problem on you. Just I can't see to find the magical missing trick.
some games don't support it
@@Vextoh So does ETS-2?
Not that I expect you to know, but I am confused that I see all these claims it does.
Yeah, "Ask them".... Just you showed it working (ok, not no ETS-2) but I have to start somewhere.
@@BossMan-vb6pi As far as I know the lights only work with racing games (yes to indicate revs). From what I read about ETS-2 and ATS is that the lights do not work unless you use a 3rd party program like (fanaLEDs)
@@Vextoh I have that and it doesn't see the wheel. I'll have to take it up with the person who wrote that program.
Weirdly - though - I see the wheel in the program's GUI. I just can't get it in one of the drop down things.
@@BossMan-vb6pi Interesting... Let me know if you end up figuring it out.
What do u recommend for the best realistic but easy on the budget
You recommended skipping this based on your age, can we get a good recommendation for the upgrade?
Im still wondering what the step above this wheel would be? When it comes to wheels for console ot seems like its just this or the Thrustmaster TMX. Any recommendations?
Either the Fanatec GT DD Pro or Logitech G Pro are the most common options above this
I got this for a sale, 270, is that good
would this still be as decent quality to get refurbished on amazon
I Don't drive and wanted to know if I Can use this to learn or simulate real life driving on streets? Thanks
maybe not 100% but you will certainly improve, or least get a common knowledge on how to drive.
If I have others in the room , can I turn off the FFB so it is more quiet?
I’m trying to get a into sim racing and I’m am looking for a wheel and pedals is this easy to set up are the mods easy to set up
Could you use the PS VR2 with this?
Well, I'm not into sim racing on AC, I would mostly use it with ETS2 and race around in Beamng, so this would be perfect for what I want, right?
got the g923 used 1x for 80 bucks love it so far. but i really need a playseat
I have a g923 it’s a great wheel I would recommend it for starters but if your a serious sim racer I wouldn’t buy the g923 I would get a mid tier
Totally fair statement - if you KNOW you're gonna be mad about sim racing then skip the logitech if the budget allows. Mid-tier is where the real fun starts
I think it is a very good product for my 7 year old kid, and even for me as a casual PS5 gamer.
It's a great wheel for kids and casuals - I had a G25 when I was 16 and it blew my mind!
Great video, covered my questions but created new ones, I would love to know more about mid or high end options and I have seen some pro models are not compatible with a gear shifter which is something I want to have. Any recommendations for a high or mid that can have gear shifter and brake handle?
Perfect wheel for casual Forza or Gran Turismo players.
What's a good mid range wheel?
Fanatec CSL DD / GT DD PRO is a decent choice
Moza R9 or R12 too but only PC compatible
does this work for pc
This expensive wheel not even mid-tier? Its over than a half payment. Fml
So..What should i buy under 350?
im wanting this wheel but for drifting on assesto corsa and and actual racing on gran tursimo will this cut it for asseto corsa and if i try to pair it with an amazon usb hand break is it going to work?
Never had the ability to have one
Always wanted one was born in the 80 s i watched the technology improve and my friends always had something to drive with
I just ordered my first wheel its the 923 on an Xbox one
I cant wait to get into the race
What u can say about this steering wheel? Im too wanna buy it for my xbox series x
Im a open world and forza motorsport type racer who just drives around? I ordered this one with the stick should this be sufficient?
Yeah, should be totally fine!
PLEASE HELP ME OUT guys, does this wheel have much input delay with a ps4 and standard tv
Man i want to start racing and try this, but i'm worried about how loud it truly is..
It's pretty loud - Fanatec CSL DD or Moza R5 are much quieter for not much more money
@@dannyleeracing i just picked up a tube of lithium grease for plastic on plastic-made friction. I think this should solve it based on a youtube vid, but we'll see!
@@js_toyo_clubdid it work
I know people are talking about racing sims etc etc etc. Has anyone used it for like F1? If so what is the force feedback like for it?
A stupid question, can you improve your manual driving skill by playing with it?
Most definitely
Can u tell me if the g29 hand brake would work for the g23
If you're talking about the shifter, yes it does
@@dannyleeracing no I know that works but there is a handbrake system u can get for the pc I wanted to know if it will work on the g23 as it’s only made for the g29 and above systems
I bought the Logitech g923 yesterday for 200 euro (return ex in mint condition) from the store (Xbox version).
I got a g923 two months ago. For the price it is amazing. The only problem currently is the extra buttons aren't supported on xbox and there is a glitch in f1 23 atm where there is no ffb. The final issue is on EA not on the wheel
what if im gonna use it for beamng or ETS2?
Can I use my g27 shifter with this wheel?
Hey Danny love your videos. Can you look into to the moza srp accessory kit.
Thanks dude - won't be able to touch on the SRP accessory kit for a long time I'm afraid - got a couple equipment things I'd love to get done, but then I'm going back to the tutorials!
These days I’d never recommend anything lower than a r5 or a csl dd.
can this be used with both xbox and ps5
You have to get the Xbox or PS5 edition, I don't think it works on both. I can't say from experience, but information online says they can't mix. Both editions are compatible with PC, though
0h the new cammus coming out or out now id reccomend skipping this and going to it.
If you good skilled driver, you will win against others with "better" wheels...
Can you use it on pc?