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@@CourtesyVulture I said the same, when he dropped his first sponsored segment! He needs to capitalize on his sudden success, because who knows how long it'll last (us humans have a fickle attention span lmao). So I'm with you and am totally fine with him getting some well deserved moolah! 💰 (plus, even his sponsored segments are amazing!!) Thanks, StoryBlocks, for recognizing Jeffiot! ♥️
Fun fact: The needle pit was ALL practical effects. They took THOUSANDS of real needles, replaced the needles with fiber optic threads and placed a thick mat beneath so Amanda could actually be tossed in without injury. They also used sfx makeup on her limbs to give a realistic illusion of her being stuck with multiple needles. So far the only trap that's REALLY raised the hair on the back of my neck because of how excellently they executed it. Very tedious process, but with an outcome that's really stood the test of time and remains a fixture in the minds of anyone who has watched. The more you know! 🌈
The video I saw on here of the behind the scenes was so cool to watch, I remember at one point they had to just use a bunch of needle-less syringes to help fill in the bottom of the pit bc making so many fake needles was nearly impossible haha.
Needle pit is so iconic, so grim visually, seemingly survivable unlike some others and thematically perfect down to the detail that the dealer throws a recovering addict into the pit instead of delving in himself. In the same way he profits from addicts, he is saving himself by pushing somebody struggling just as much even further down.
They actually dropped a few real needles in by accident and had to go through them all again to make sure it was safe. The director described it as finding a needle in a needle stack
I love imagining that during the events of Saw X Lawrence was yelling hysterically from his hospital bed about how there’s no cure for John’s cancer and he shouldn’t trust some random lady on the internet but John told him to stfu and went to Mexico anyway
Reading this gave me this weird idea that we need "Saw X Lawrence" which is a crossover where Jigsaw and Lawrence of Arabia meet. No idea what it would be about, but the thought is hilarious.
One of my most formative memories is watching Saw 6 with my mom and her yelling at the TV telling the woman to cut off her boob cause it has more fat and more weight to it. Trap 25 means a lot to me
fun fact! the woman in trap 25 (pound of flesh) is Tanedra Howard, who won the reality show Scream Queens which was a horror acting competition. the prize for the show was the role she had in saw 6! she also makes an appearance in saw 3D in the support group
@@victoria1247 I’ll never get over the fact that Tanedra got such a cool trap AND a recurring role then Gabby just got her head squished so quickly 🤣 I was happy because she annoyed me on Scream Queens lmao
The trap with the loan shark couple makes a lot more thematic sense when you know the expression "asking for their pound of flesh" which means asking for something you are owed even if it harms the person who owes you. I would bump it up to B personally
1:47:31 I don't know if the missed meaning is the joke, or that Jeff missed it because there's not an equivalent in Swedish, but the trap's entire concept is a play on the idiom "to demand a pound of flesh" - someone asking for a "pound of flesh" is making an unreasonable request or demanding payment of an incredible debt. Those two people demand *metaphorical* pounds of flesh from the people they loan money to... so Jigsaw demands a LITERAL pound of flesh from them. it's kinda clever, if a little on the nose.
In some parts of Italy there’s a similar idiom: “vuoi anche una fetta di culo?” (literally “do you want a slice of ass with that?”), but it’s only used as a sarcastic reply to any request you think is insane. That would be an interesting trap to watch lmao
Painful??? I would've assumed they put someone to sleep for this. And as I type this I realize that perhaps waking up afterwards and healing from such a procedure that involves sucking out part of your BONES would, indeed, be very very painful. .. 😢
@@BeehiveBoybone marrow biopsies are done with the patient awake, using localised anaesthetic. It's still quite painful regardless. A study into patients experience quoted a cancer patient saying the biopsy was the worst experience of all the treatments they had received (including chemotherapy, medication, and bone marrow transplant).
@@pauk.w Cancer patient here! At least here in Germany, they do infact put us to sleep for them and give VERY effective painkillers. You can request to have them done while awake, where you will be given a painkiller for that specific area, but doctors will usually tell you it's a bad idea. Usually it's only for "emergencies" or on patient request! Might just be different places different practices though!
@@BeehiveBoyI've had quite a few done due to my own cancer, and they put you to sleep for it due to the pain and discomfort(here in Germany at least)! The days after it is quite painful though, but the pain usually goes away within a week, you just gotta be careful not to lay on it or stretch too much!
physically nodded when asked “if that makes sense?” after jeff describing that looking at hoffman makes him want to shave his head and become a monk. not sure why, but it made perfect sense and i wholeheartedly agree
Can I just appreciate the nicknames you gave everyone like Lie Guy, Baby Cop, Face Girl etc. Because with all the characters involved, including many same-y and bland ones, the nicknames went a long way to telling them all apart, especially when it crosses over into sequels and stuff!
Whenever I watch any video telling a story, I immediately lose track of whoever mark, john, lisa, steve and richard are. Nicknames stick way better for me, for some reason
@@jeffiot that's probably because you nickname them after a memorable trait/name. If we remember the plot/standout moments, we have something grounding to connect them to. Who is Lie guy? Probably the guy who lied. Good cop? The cop who is tryna help people/solve the case (defo gon die). Any guy could be named steven, but only one of them is a cashier, etc.
The most hilarious part about the "reasons for being in the trap" is that they get progressively more pety and unjustified, at one point one of the people in a trap is there because she uses antidepressants (sorry for the botched english), and then Jigsaw just putting completely innocent people in traps in order to screw over the actual participant
@@castrochris94 it really doesn't, most people who self harm are not suicidal nor looking for attention, but rather using it as a coping mechanism to regulate emotions. John's whole shtick is that one should appreciate their life and a lot of people who self harm use it to help themselves cope enough to keep going with their lives. so, counterproductive actually
@@m00nj3llyfxshCan confirm as someone who used to self-harm, and had passive suicidal ideations. From a pretty early age, I was suicidal because of trauma I couldn’t deal with and because of a brain I didn’t understand how worked. I self-harmed to cope and to feel something. I was regularly so full of emotions that I just needed it out, and it was the most efficient way I knew, so I used it then too. (I also did use it as a method of self-punishment occasionally, but that’s a much longer story).
I was sort if waiting for him to glue extra cardbord on the side to extend the C tier. Only to then do the same once B and D also grow off the board. But yes, the whole setup is great. He could've used a picture of the tier list added in post. Same with the bluescreen to paste in the movie. No issue doing that as a pure effect. Going through the whole work of having physical props for that, plus the entire setup with the outfit gives me early yt vibes that we are missing these days.
despite some stiff competition, calling the three main Saw villains your "nightmare blunt rotation" is somehow the most unhinged sentence in this video. really, truly excellent work, thank you for your sacrifices and enjoy the monastery
I’m 10min in and I gotta say I wish all RUclipsrs had the freedom to make ads the way that they want to because the Saw Storyblocks ad was legit so funny and I loved it
The Mcdonalds Cup is a great name for that trap because every time I use one of those lids I think of that trap. but for style we should all agree to call it The Straw Trap
oh my god im not the only one. i ALWAYS think of that trap as i stick my index finger in and just think "she could have gotten out so easily using her other hand..."
@@AnArtichoke_ the man from his cancer support group mentions that he got his procedure done in norway in believe, and then when john looks it up the website says they’re travelling. Its the same scam unfortunately
I may be misremembering but I thought her dad was the one who had the practice in Norway (that supposedly worked) but she started scamming people with his story and reputation once he got shut down
I felt more anxiety watching him casually cut his hair blindly and then shave his head at the end with no explanation than I did during any of the Saw traps.
@@PatrickHoganRight, most cops are good people, talking shit about people that spend most of their life protecting your ungrateful ass is just ridiculous
I love how Saw X pretends Jigsaw would never endanger a child and feels awful that the kid got involved... when, in the very first Saw, Jigsaw had a kid taken hostage at gunpoint.
Johnsaw is pure evil and it's hilarious that in Saw X, the writers both made him feel bad for the kid (like you said, contradicting his own past actions) AND the writers had to make the antagonist Cecilia comically evil because Johnsaw is just that big of a shithead and difficult to make sympathetic
how is nobody talking about that sick intro shot of him on the floor of the saw room hello??😭😭 ive never seen anything by this guy or any saw movie but im hooked, the editing and humor was so on point
Weird fact because I have watched these movies with director's commentary way too many times: The Ice Trap in 3 was originally supposed to have the woman wearing a shirt, but I believe the director didn't like how sexual the wet shirt looked and opted for the shirtless version. He has admitted that it was in poor taste and he doesn't particularly like how that trap was shot but it was apparently way worse before he changed it due to being more unintentionally sexual.
1:42:30 she’s hiding her hand because it saves on the effects budget to only mock up 1 prosthetic hand and cut it in half. She’s hiding it for filming reasons, not plot reasons.
@@matroqueta6825 fun fact is that malik the arsonist guy is seen in the jigsaw support group in saw 3d, while i dont think the lady is ever seen again
1:48:33 "In this house we stan a serial killer with values". This reminds me of the Chucky TV show where despite being a serial killer Chucky is lgbt+ affirming. It made some sense in context because he canonically has a nonbinary child, but when it happened I just devolved into laughter at the thought of Chucky being fine with killing but drawing the line at homophobia
I believe that scene in Chucky has the gay kid asking Chucky if he's okay with his kid being nonbinary, after being bullied by his own homophobic dad, and Chuckys response is something like, "I'm not a monster!" and then he murders some people.
i stumbled on this video completely randomly thanks to the recommendation on RUclips and i didn’t expect to finish it when I saw it was nearly 4 hours long but you got me hooked. The way you narrates, your humour and your editing was really enthralling! You earned a new subscriber ^^
@@Sky-bx9mn To be fair, it's kind of in character for Jigsaw. His whole thing, from my perspective, is a kind of an "everyone needs a test sometime"/"suffering is a necessary part of growth" It's just he takes it too literally because, I mean, the guy's got a brain tumor. No wonder he'd be a little (very) kooky, considering he has a rock amidst neuronz
Isn't the entire point there's zero moral consistency or ideological integrity because it's not actually about teaching lessons but a fcking crazy man serial killer cult for the sake of it, made evident by contradictions like this and the frequency of clearly unsurvivable traps?
@@ginrodino8542 i mean the wife of the guy that lied about being in a trap is literally perfect and didn't do anything wrong and dies in the possibly most horrific way in the entire franchise lol
3:25:00 the number was changed in promotion for the new “the strangers” movie. What you’re hearing is the girl knock on the door and ask “Is Tamara here?” Which is the strangers code question they ask their victims, almost like a way of marking them for death. The strangers and saw are both owned by Lionsgate, so all they did was change what played when the number was dialled.
So you can call it later again, and hear another promotion 🤔 Someone needs to check this phone number from time to time, because they will probably put it here before promoting
OMG I know that this is an older comment but thank you for this since that is an amazing detail that I never noticed, even if I’m not 100% sure if they thought of it when writing or not
The Final Destination writers hate you so much after this video. From "No this is inconsistent with how Death has been shown to work previously." to "Haha fuck you it´s my list and it works how I want, cry more."
Having only started the video, I was confused at this comment. But I assume Jeff mentions Final Destination during it? I should keep watching and find out, instead of looking at the comments... but my ADD says "break time, you already watched like 15 minutes" 😂
@@lightdud552 yeah I know, I watched it. But the first comment said "the final destination writers hate you after THIS video." This video is about Saw. Do you see my confusion? Lol
IMO on the last trap in spiral, the reason he would have to shoot the target to lower his dad is to alert the swat team to where the "active shooter" is, therefore setting up the whole puppet part.
It's not about the self harming itself, to Jigsaw he didn't appreciate his life by self harming, not because he saw it as a crime but as him not valuing his life and appreciate what he has, there's a lot jeffiot missed in terms of dialogue and Jigsaws flawed philosophy. Jigsaw doesn't do these tests as a vigilante for justice, he does it so he can forcefully make them value their life through suffering and Jigsaw sees these people who he deems unappreciative of life and don't value it. Jigsaws ideology is very flawed, like the guy in the first movie with the razorwire or the janitor in the sixth movie in because he smokes
@@thewiggabean5937 Yeah it sorta 'lost the plot' the whole series when it came to the whole 'Jigsaw piece missing from certain people', that part of them that made them survivors, not just 'living people'.
@@thewiggabean5937 thanks for this, I understand now what jigsaws view of the world is, and its not pretty but I'm glad you helped me understand th movie better
@@thewiggabean5937 i need to remind myself of this every time I'm watching Saw like yes I hate that Paul is in that razorwire maze with every fiber of my being but it does make sense for Jigsaw , much more than some of the others actually
Jeff: *drops an amazingly accurate-looking Saw-inspired quick-cut edit during the ad break where hardly anyone will have the patience to watch* Yeah this dude's legit
I was microdosing this video for as long as possible since the premiere. But the dedication to the bit at the end deserves a slow clap. Hat's off, Jeff, bravo.
Also, I think the number is saying, "Is Tamara here?" and they are just re-using that number for the brand new Strangers movie. That's a line from those movies.
Yeah, it appears to be the number Lionsgate or Blumhouse uses for promotional purposes. The imaginary bit was probably for the film Imaginary that released earlier this year. It fits the timeline.
@@msalisbury i think it's just a promotional line which is repurposed for the strangers chapter 1. They used that line multiple times in that movie (like they used everything from the original but thats a whole nother tangent)
THANK YOU I had a similar thought that the phone message was from the strangers. Makes sense lionsgate would reuse the number especially since X was last year
Jigsaw really seems to love putting things in glass boxes without considering that, like, movie audiences are very trained to see glass as eminently breakable. It's harder than you'd think, but still, like, a lot a lot of these traps could be sidestepped by just. Breaking the glass and retrieving the object safely that way.
The reason Paul died when trying to get out of the razor wire cage was because he panicked, not because it was impossible Also in saw 4 the guy only took out one of his eyes instead of both
I think another thing to consider about the McDonald’s Cup trap in Saw 2 is the fact that she didn’t need to stick her arms in at all. There was a key in the room, easily accessible, which would’ve opened the box to allow her to grab the antidote without hurting herself. Simple, right? But the problem with that is, by that point in the movie, they were all exhausted and not at 100% mental capacity due to the poison, meaning her chances of understanding her scenario well enough to notice the key is unlikely. I get that she wandered off - so you could argue that there’s supposed to be more than one brain on that trap, or that someone is supposed to have gotten an antidote by then, and therefore would be able to think clearly… but in that case, it’s FAR too simple a trap. I feel like it was set up to be so deceptively simple (stick hand in pain box, grab antidote) because it was built with the intention that no one with the mental faculties to figure it out would ever reach it. Which I think bumps up the avoidability *only* because of the cast’s specific circumstances
@@Jampzz That's literally part of what the post you're responding to is explaining. Why would she think to do that? She's dying from poison and at this point is delirious. She wouldn't have had the mental capacity to know anything about this trap, let alone figure out how to get out safely.
The trap wasn’t for her and she also throws away the tape explaining the rules of the game. She is like you said delirious and desperate and stupidly screws herself without thinking.
I love how excited Jeff gets at the mildest hint that there is an ARG element to the Saw movies as of recent time, eagerly trying to find any clues he can
@@drdrdrk an Arg is an Alternate Reality Game. It’s underneath the ‘unfiction’ umbrella, which is fictional media that tries to convince you it’s not. Typically it is horror. An Alternate Reality Game would be one of these Webseries that also include puzzles, codes, or any audience interaction.
I have no clue why this is my favorite of your videos. I have never watched any of the saw movies, and am not a particularly big fan of the torture porn movies, yet somehow you managed to make this entire video one of the most enjoyable things on the internet. You're absolutely hilarious
Love the constant struggle of reminding people that the S of the S.A.W rubric is Dante's concept of contrapasso in The Inferno, where punishment in hell is drawn directly from the sin committed in life, and not personal satisfaction of how a trap works.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. A trap can be proportionally painful in accordance with contrapasso while also being narratively dissatisfying.
Hands down, best ad I've ever watched. The in universe build up and transition to the cliché fourth wall break was so smooth, I could polish a mirror with it.
2:12:54 To give more context for this trap and Saw 3D generally Before Saw 3D became Saw 3D, it was intended to be two separate (not 3D) films. Saw: The Final Chapter, Parts 1 and 2. What was supposed to happen was, after the shot of Dina hanging gutted, the camera cuts to the chaos of the crowd panicking. Stoically, standing in the back, was John. He would then utter something along the lines of, “If they didn’t know who I was before, they most certainly will now.” It was meant to be Jigsaw’s ‘coming out party’ to the public at large. The twist from this scene would come back in the final act, during the Dr. Gordon montage, where after John says that line, Gordon steps up next to him as another stoic observer. This was John showing his work to Gordon for the first time, much like how he initiated Hoffman. And after Hoffman passed out from Gordon’s syringe, the other two Pigheads would unmask as Brad and Ryan- the survivors of the Love Triangle game in question. All that got royally fucked up when the producers cancelled the plan of eight movies, dropped it to seven, and forced the merger of both scripts into one. The Love Triangle trap became completely pointless and disconnected from everything. Then slapping the hokey 3D gimmick on top, all contributed to the mess that Saw VII came out to be. Should’ve been a much different finale for that era of the franchise.
I mean...yeah, the trap doesn't fit the film we got. But what you describe sounds like an extra like minute of screen time. Not really worth making an entire film just for that one scene to fit. Half the films are incoherent messes already, I don't think it made too much of an impact.
I do love that Saw 10 has a bunch of people scamming old cancer patients knowing that those people will die soon anyway but then it turns out they've scammed JIGSAW. How truly horrifying, like if there's anything that would stop me from becoming a scammer it would be the negligible but REAL chance that I scam jigsaw by accident and get got for real.
Phone numbers starting 555 (after area code) don't exist. That's why they're used in movies in case someone tries to call them. Someone pointed it out (In Detective Pony, the most unhinged Fanfic adjacent piece of art I've ever read) and now every time I see a phone in a movie I see 555 and think "oh look fake number" and now, reader, you will do it too. You can never unsee this.
I’m a bit late to the party, but I’m pretty sure the reason so many traps are ending up in C is because the avoidability score usually directly counteracts the wickedness score. Evening them out. A bit of a flaw in the rating system, would I say.
I would push back on this, only because we see several traps that have alright avoidability and wickedness, but are then revealed to not actually be escapable. This drops their avoidability score to practically nothing, but the wickedness does not increase at the same time, which is what you would expect to see if they were indeed direct counterparts.
For context. Anything that is a plastic/metal/polymer box that holds bullets is a mag. A clip is the metal sheet with bullets out in the air that’s usually used by bolt action guns that don’t have a magazine
Except guns that are loaded by using (stripper) clips *have* magazines because that's the definition of "a thing that stores ammo". The magazine is just not external and/or detachable - it's an internal, or "fixed", magazine.
I don’t even like saw but this was such an interesting video and features such well done analysis that I’m subscribing. You clearly actually care about the videos you make and the topics they cover, excited to watch more from you!
for saw 3 in the ice room, it’s my thought that she’s getting sprayed with water and then being froze is because she got “cold feet” when witnessing the crime and deciding not to talk to the police. which kind of makes sense to me, i’m not sure if it’s one of those confirmation bias things tho.
The phone call says “Is Tamara here?” The same question the killers from “The Strangers” ask before beginning their home invasion to test if anyone is home.
Came here looking for this. Did a whole "woooo look at me!" but wanted to check before commenting haha. Also, they add the whole "door-knocking" thing at the beginning.
Lionsgate DESPERATELY wanting to capitalize on horror fans love of ARGs, choosing to include a phone number, but not wanting to invest in more than one phone number is incredibly funny. like “nahh they’ll never notice. just use the same number. update the answering machine”
Wait so... They had that huge reveal that LAWRENCE, a legacy character that i imagine everyone was stoked about seeing again, worked for jigsaw, and then they... Never brought him back again? Not even to kill him off? He just killed Hoffman, walked away, and never came back?
They're probably going to bring him back in one of the upcoming movies (at least 2 more are coming, one taking place between Saw 2 and 3, and one after Saw 3D as far as I know)
@@bluedream3481 He wanted his character to appear in the last Saw movie, as he said himself. That's why he appeared in the Saw 3D. But as we can see, that was far from the last. :D
thing is, hoffman isn't dead (as we can tell from his Saw X cameo and has been confirmed alive so I assume he will be in Saw XI) so lawrence just came back for... nothing
Hey Jeff. I had no idea people were leaving cruel comments on your Final Destination video. It was really good and that's coming from a fan of the franchise. I hope the Saw fandom treats you better here and i believe that they will. A lot of my pals who love Saw recognize it's very serious flaws: especially for entries 4, 5, and 3D. The cheap soap opera elements and ridiculous editing choices is part of the charm for me. Also I'm so glad you took note of the absolutely bonkers interrogation scene in 4. It's such a vlink and you'll miss it thing but it never fails to make me giggle on a rewatch.
As someone with no interest in watching the Saw movies, I'm glad this exists so I can get a quick overview of the traps, which I can only assume at this point are the selling point for the series.
Well the traps are a part of the selling point, every movie having a twist is another, the crime thriller elements, the Grungy aesthetics in the originals, and the exploration of a more human horror movie villain are also selling points.
3:30:44 I love moments like these. Like, it should be clear by the second movie that John is a hypocrite. He morally absolves himself as this savior who puts you through tests and torment to make you a better person. But his reasons even at the start were petty, seriously, giving a death penalty for someone having depression or being too focused on your job. And if you really think about it, most of his actions are just revenge. Revenge at the cops for daring to do their jobs (for once), revenge at the world for being the one who suffered and here, revenge at the people who wronged him. He's just a hypocrite with a god complex.
The suicide thing and the working too much thing kinda have a through line though. John wants people to appreciate life as a gift, and not take anything for granted. He hopes both these men will find a new value for their lives after this.
The movies clearly established him as the bad guy and that his philosophy is flawed and he is a man with a god complex doing evil, I don’t understand how anyone thinks he is portrayed as sympathetic or righteous, also we don’t talk about Saw X they butchered the whole point of the series with that.
The reverse bear-trap, while simple in comparison, will always be so iconic of the SAW franchise that people are going to remember it for years, the same way they do Leatherface's chainsaw or Jason Voorhee's machete... In my opinion, that is!!
it also helps that its pretty much the only trap to be repeated multiple times in the series. like the rest are mostly one off and specific to the scenario the characters are in, but the rbt is worn by three different characters (four if you count david in the short film and five if u count the video game) its iconic even just in the original saw movie, but the repetition definitely helps memorability for people who have watched the sequels
the eye trap is actually worse than we think because the janitor would bleed out from his eye sockets before he could get medical help, its a lot of suffering while being blind and with at least 3 broken fingers
I heard that it depends on how much of the optic nerves get yanked out. They go pretty deep into the critical areas of the brain. If those go, then you're dead pretty quick
I'm sick as shit with Covid right now and fell asleep to this video. Coming in and out of a very altered consciousness to Jeff describing Saw traps was such a surreal experience.
This is now the second video essayist I watch who shaves his head completely bald after a several hour long review of an entire franchise (the first one being BHUltra's video on how total drama ruins the contestants)
jeff youre a madman. loved everything. no notes, great time. watched this with my boyfriend who MONTHS ago we were watching your final destination video and said out loud "i really hope he does one just like this for saw" and then a month later you announced your poll on patreon. we couldn't believe it. great haircut btw you look great. happy pride!
Because in Japan (like most schools in the US), which these tier list grades are based on, don't have the E grade. Japan has the S grade, that's why it is there.
I've always thought that, man, in the arm splitting blood collecting trap... JUST PISS IN IT or at least spit in it, or I'm sure there's some liquid laying around that you could use. And even if you do use blood, why did bro push his arm all the way to the elbow ffs
The phone number is for sure "Is Tamara here?," a reference to the Strangers films, where they harrass targets that are home alone, and the first thing they do is knock on the door, typically interrupting SEX, and a little girl (Pinup Girl) asks for "Tamara"
I'm a hardcore Saw franchise fan and I 100% agree with you about Spiral. I really enjoyed it, and having that refreshing new take on the franchise helped me recover from how tired I was getting of the same old format, so now I can even rewatch the older movies with new enjoyment
I thought your Saw video would be you in front of a whiteboard ranking the traps and I would have been very happy with it. The editing and effects blew me away! You have outdone yourself
Fuck this is beyond hilarious. I'm only 20 minutes in and I've audibly cracked up multiple times. I'm wary clicking on such long videos bc often theyre just brain dead recaps or sound like someone reading a wikipedia synopsis for 3 hrs.... This slaps
John Kramer has always been a compelling character and Tobin Bell plays him so well, that is why all Saw Fans want him around. He is the heart of the Saw franchise and it just doesn’t feel the same without him.
I recall reading, I think on an IMDB trivia page or somewhere, that the victim in the ice room trap was originally clothed, but the director found that having a wet shirt clinging to the actress made it look like they were trying to be titillating, and so they just did the scene nude. Don't know if that's true, but I'm inclined to believe that was the thinking, given that none of the rest of the franchise has really focused that much on the female body during traps or really any scenes.
This is 100% true, except that part where the franchise doesn't focus on the female body because have you seen Saw 3D? Holy misogyny. One of the producers was going through a brutal divorce with none other than the actress playing Jill. I guess a lot about her involvement in that film and this franchise as a whole has just started to make sense to you.
I love the irony that making her naked was the less inappropriate option Although it also makes sense considering a human would die of hypothermia faster if they were naked over being clothed
in my opinion i think the reason they made her nude was just to make that trap more painful considering youll feel a lot colder without clothing as opposed to with. you can take as much clothing as you can get in a trap like that even if its just a plain female Tee.
Last night I dreamt that I had won some sort of thing where I could attend a school in Finland. I was really nervous on if my Finnish was going to be good or not, if I was going to be made fun of for not understanding it that well and if I was going to understand my teachers, so I went to my first class of the day only to see everyone just speaking in regular English during lessons and stuff so I ask my classmate what was up with that and they went “Oh, Finnish isn’t real. We just made that up so people would be discouraged to come.” Anyways, this doesn’t have anything to do with the video, I just felt like putting this here to boost the algorithm a little more. Great video as always btw! :)
I thought we had reached peak Swedish energy with the Ikea detour, but the absolute *venom* towards Nazi iconography at 1:29:00 coming out like some ancestral memory topped that. America: "Punch all Nazis?" Sweden: "You punch them? Like ... [loading rifle] ... just with your fists?"
At least two of those aren't just fictional nazi iconography, but an irl neo-nazi symbols, the celtic cross is 100% a real thing, and the lightning bolts are almost certainly meant to represent the SS lightning bolts.
You realize the Swedes have a neo-nazi movement, and historically aided the nazis right? It isn't like the Swedes historically hated nazis or something, they aren't known for being anti-nazi the way Norwegians are.
Almost 4 hours of Hbomberguy talking about plagiarism, 3 and a half hours of Münecat talking about evolutionary psychology, 4 hours of Jenny Nicholson talking about a Star Wars hotel, almost 3 hours of Contrapoints talking about Twilight, 2 and a half hours of Dan Olson talking about a Reddit investment cult, and now 4 hours of Jeffiot talking about Saw movies. Noone dare say again that Millennials have no attention span. We just need stuff to be interesting.
i showed the blåhaj slander section to my blåhaj-loving girlfriend and she got so mad. she says she wants to release a diss track about mr jeffiot. afaik she has not made a song ever before in her life. so ... he better watch out, i guess.
Also, with the rib cage trap, detective girl could've tipped the beaker over to spill the liquid. If there was less liquid, less of her hands would be reaching for the key. Could've been less painful even though she dies anyway.
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bruh get that bag! you deserve it!
Cheers man! Glad to see you getting a sponsor! Really looking forward to this video while I twiddle my thumbs at work tomorrow!
@@CourtesyVulture I said the same, when he dropped his first sponsored segment! He needs to capitalize on his sudden success, because who knows how long it'll last (us humans have a fickle attention span lmao).
So I'm with you and am totally fine with him getting some well deserved moolah! 💰
(plus, even his sponsored segments are amazing!!)
Thanks, StoryBlocks, for recognizing Jeffiot! ♥️
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE I couldn’t skip past because I was watching live… but I would not have skipped anyway, and I always skip. Story telling mastery.
@@CourtesyVulture Exactly! Speaking of which, I think it should've been the RUclips Guy that kidnapped him in that segment lol
Fun fact: The needle pit was ALL practical effects. They took THOUSANDS of real needles, replaced the needles with fiber optic threads and placed a thick mat beneath so Amanda could actually be tossed in without injury. They also used sfx makeup on her limbs to give a realistic illusion of her being stuck with multiple needles. So far the only trap that's REALLY raised the hair on the back of my neck because of how excellently they executed it. Very tedious process, but with an outcome that's really stood the test of time and remains a fixture in the minds of anyone who has watched. The more you know! 🌈
The video I saw on here of the behind the scenes was so cool to watch, I remember at one point they had to just use a bunch of needle-less syringes to help fill in the bottom of the pit bc making so many fake needles was nearly impossible haha.
God tier execution. The needle pit is the trap I think of when I think of Saw as a franchise.
Needle pit is so iconic, so grim visually, seemingly survivable unlike some others and thematically perfect down to the detail that the dealer throws a recovering addict into the pit instead of delving in himself. In the same way he profits from addicts, he is saving himself by pushing somebody struggling just as much even further down.
They actually dropped a few real needles in by accident and had to go through them all again to make sure it was safe. The director described it as finding a needle in a needle stack
This is awesome info! Thanks for sharing!!
never thought i would watch harvey from stardew valley talk about saw traps for 4 hours
knew i recognised him from somewhere….
OMG, THANKS FOR THIS MENTAL ILLUMINATION, thats crazy i didnt even realize lmao
STOP I WANTED TO MAKE THE SAME JOKE BUT I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A BIG SAW STARDEW VALLEY FANDOM CROSS OVER 😭
NAHH I KNEW HE LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE THATS BRUTAL
OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO RIGHT 💀
I love imagining that during the events of Saw X Lawrence was yelling hysterically from his hospital bed about how there’s no cure for John’s cancer and he shouldn’t trust some random lady on the internet but John told him to stfu and went to Mexico anyway
you have no idea how hard i am laughing right now
Me trying to explain to my grandma that Ellen DeGeneres did not send her money on Facebook
Reading this gave me this weird idea that we need "Saw X Lawrence" which is a crossover where Jigsaw and Lawrence of Arabia meet.
No idea what it would be about, but the thought is hilarious.
Bamboozled!
One of my most formative memories is watching Saw 6 with my mom and her yelling at the TV telling the woman to cut off her boob cause it has more fat and more weight to it. Trap 25 means a lot to me
I'm glad someone else had the same thought I did.
@@brittanyrainbow1976or just shit into it
Idk why they didn’t try shitting in it
I’m sorry you watched saw 6 with your MOTHER?!?!
@g.rathbone764 yeah my mom is pretty chill with most stuff. Also she has no memory of this happening but it did
fun fact! the woman in trap 25 (pound of flesh) is Tanedra Howard, who won the reality show Scream Queens which was a horror acting competition. the prize for the show was the role she had in saw 6! she also makes an appearance in saw 3D in the support group
She was the “handicapped parking at the damn mall!” lady, right?
The same show that rosana pansino was in the second season of.
That show was so fun. I think about Jessica's floating head scene constantly.
Nazi/driven over girl from
7 won season 2
@@victoria1247 I’ll never get over the fact that Tanedra got such a cool trap AND a recurring role then Gabby just got her head squished so quickly 🤣 I was happy because she annoyed me on Scream Queens lmao
The trap with the loan shark couple makes a lot more thematic sense when you know the expression "asking for their pound of flesh" which means asking for something you are owed even if it harms the person who owes you. I would bump it up to B personally
The enemies to lovers arc jeff experienced with hoffman was wild
(regretfully) my beloved
this is the only comment ive seen him respond too, wtf
@@marlo9065 I'm the chosen one
LMAO
just like Strahm... or my beloved Amanda and Lynn...
"Rest in peace, you were a mediocre plot device at best" is a really classic quote for this franchise lol
frfr
I'd want that to be said at my funeral
“I don’t kill people, also crawl through this maze made completely out of razorwire while completely naked, or explode.”
1:47:31 I don't know if the missed meaning is the joke, or that Jeff missed it because there's not an equivalent in Swedish, but the trap's entire concept is a play on the idiom "to demand a pound of flesh" - someone asking for a "pound of flesh" is making an unreasonable request or demanding payment of an incredible debt.
Those two people demand *metaphorical* pounds of flesh from the people they loan money to... so Jigsaw demands a LITERAL pound of flesh from them.
it's kinda clever, if a little on the nose.
Also the pound of flesh thing comes from a money lender in a Shakespeare play.
@@Sky-bx9mnya basically sell your soul via meat
Interesting, there is no Swedish equivalent
Shakespeare originated so many of the idioms of the English speaking world. Pound of flesh is from Merchant of Venice if anyone is curious
In some parts of Italy there’s a similar idiom: “vuoi anche una fetta di culo?” (literally “do you want a slice of ass with that?”), but it’s only used as a sarcastic reply to any request you think is insane. That would be an interesting trap to watch lmao
The bone suction trap is probably to mimic a marrow biopsy, which they do to check cancer, and are notoriously painful
Painful??? I would've assumed they put someone to sleep for this.
And as I type this I realize that perhaps waking up afterwards and healing from such a procedure that involves sucking out part of your BONES would, indeed, be very very painful.
..
😢
@@BeehiveBoybone marrow biopsies are done with the patient awake, using localised anaesthetic. It's still quite painful regardless. A study into patients experience quoted a cancer patient saying the biopsy was the worst experience of all the treatments they had received (including chemotherapy, medication, and bone marrow transplant).
@@pauk.w Cancer patient here! At least here in Germany, they do infact put us to sleep for them and give VERY effective painkillers. You can request to have them done while awake, where you will be given a painkiller for that specific area, but doctors will usually tell you it's a bad idea. Usually it's only for "emergencies" or on patient request! Might just be different places different practices though!
@@BeehiveBoyI've had quite a few done due to my own cancer, and they put you to sleep for it due to the pain and discomfort(here in Germany at least)! The days after it is quite painful though, but the pain usually goes away within a week, you just gotta be careful not to lay on it or stretch too much!
@@Zoe_Feuwuer thank you for sharing your experience and clarifying, i hope you are doing well
physically nodded when asked “if that makes sense?” after jeff describing that looking at hoffman makes him want to shave his head and become a monk. not sure why, but it made perfect sense and i wholeheartedly agree
Can I just appreciate the nicknames you gave everyone like Lie Guy, Baby Cop, Face Girl etc. Because with all the characters involved, including many same-y and bland ones, the nicknames went a long way to telling them all apart, especially when it crosses over into sequels and stuff!
I don't normally do this (usually i find it cringe) but Hi Eddie!
Whenever I watch any video telling a story, I immediately lose track of whoever mark, john, lisa, steve and richard are. Nicknames stick way better for me, for some reason
I think Dr. baby is my favorite❤
@@jeffiot the rubber ducky with the brown wig… Did you make that? It was spot on.
@@jeffiot that's probably because you nickname them after a memorable trait/name. If we remember the plot/standout moments, we have something grounding to connect them to. Who is Lie guy? Probably the guy who lied. Good cop? The cop who is tryna help people/solve the case (defo gon die). Any guy could be named steven, but only one of them is a cashier, etc.
The most hilarious part about the "reasons for being in the trap" is that they get progressively more pety and unjustified, at one point one of the people in a trap is there because she uses antidepressants (sorry for the botched english), and then Jigsaw just putting completely innocent people in traps in order to screw over the actual participant
In the first movie a guy gets put in a trap for being suicidal, Kramer jyst hates depressed peole, I hate him so much.
@@marcobisi7768that one actually makes sense according to his logic
@@castrochris94 it really doesn't, most people who self harm are not suicidal nor looking for attention, but rather using it as a coping mechanism to regulate emotions. John's whole shtick is that one should appreciate their life and a lot of people who self harm use it to help themselves cope enough to keep going with their lives. so, counterproductive actually
@@m00nj3llyfxshCan confirm as someone who used to self-harm, and had passive suicidal ideations. From a pretty early age, I was suicidal because of trauma I couldn’t deal with and because of a brain I didn’t understand how worked. I self-harmed to cope and to feel something. I was regularly so full of emotions that I just needed it out, and it was the most efficient way I knew, so I used it then too. (I also did use it as a method of self-punishment occasionally, but that’s a much longer story).
@@sand_eater101 tl;dr you were basically crying for attention.
INSANE to me that he gave an entire synopsis of the first movie without even mentioning the bit where the guys full on fucked in that bathroom
i havent watched the movie what the fuck happens in saw 1 actually
@@kite1177it's a joke
@@tobyandahalf no shit
@@kite1177 do u need like a full ass summary or
@@kite1177In the movie Saw (2004) the two guys fuck nasty in the bathroom
the dedication to having a physical tier list instead of making one digitally is phenomenal
John Kramer would be proud
@@WAMTAT would he?
Back in 2004 I printed out a bunch of memes and mailed them to my friend across the country. This kind of reminded me of that.
I was sort if waiting for him to glue extra cardbord on the side to extend the C tier. Only to then do the same once B and D also grow off the board.
But yes, the whole setup is great. He could've used a picture of the tier list added in post. Same with the bluescreen to paste in the movie. No issue doing that as a pure effect. Going through the whole work of having physical props for that, plus the entire setup with the outfit gives me early yt vibes that we are missing these days.
despite some stiff competition, calling the three main Saw villains your "nightmare blunt rotation" is somehow the most unhinged sentence in this video. really, truly excellent work, thank you for your sacrifices and enjoy the monastery
I’m 10min in and I gotta say I wish all RUclipsrs had the freedom to make ads the way that they want to because the Saw Storyblocks ad was legit so funny and I loved it
i was expecting an adbreak after the content warning and got surprised by an ad after an actual ad
The Mcdonalds Cup is a great name for that trap because every time I use one of those lids I think of that trap. but for style we should all agree to call it The Straw Trap
oh my god im not the only one. i ALWAYS think of that trap as i stick my index finger in and just think "she could have gotten out so easily using her other hand..."
@@Rukushinand the key was right there, she didn’t even have to stick her hands in!
It's funny how you didn't say which one it actually was but I know exactly which one you're talking about.
yeah because it was mentioned and then I went "Yeah.... like every soda cup or fast food drink lid" It is a good name
It's a similar device to a raccoon trap in real life
Saw X kinda makes Saw VI super funny
"you denied me coverage for something that turned out to be a scam, but fuck you anyway."
I was thinking the same exact thing 😂😂😂
To be fair, the scam took place in Mexico. The operation was supposed to be in Norway, surely the one in Norway wasn't also a scam!
qrow pfp spotted
@@AnArtichoke_ the man from his cancer support group mentions that he got his procedure done in norway in believe, and then when john looks it up the website says they’re travelling. Its the same scam unfortunately
I may be misremembering but I thought her dad was the one who had the practice in Norway (that supposedly worked) but she started scamming people with his story and reputation once he got shut down
I felt more anxiety watching him casually cut his hair blindly and then shave his head at the end with no explanation than I did during any of the Saw traps.
He had to see Hoffman one too many times and fully broke
They wasted the pig goop thing on a judge when it absolutely should've been for a dirty cop.
idk I think the train trap we see in Book of Spiral was also an appropriate trap for a dirty cop who lies under oath
All cops*
@@PatrickHoganRight, most cops are good people, talking shit about people that spend most of their life protecting your ungrateful ass is just ridiculous
@@PatrickHogangross
its my favorite trap yet its in f 😭
I love how Saw X pretends Jigsaw would never endanger a child and feels awful that the kid got involved... when, in the very first Saw, Jigsaw had a kid taken hostage at gunpoint.
And kidnapped at the end of saw 3
That was Zep that kidnapped Diana and Hoffman kidnapped Jeff’s daughter, but yeah Kramer still has involvement in this
@@nikolaiblagov5845John Jigsaw Kramer made them do it! Hoffman was technically a willing accomplice but Zep was forced!
Johnsaw is pure evil and it's hilarious that in Saw X, the writers both made him feel bad for the kid (like you said, contradicting his own past actions) AND the writers had to make the antagonist Cecilia comically evil because Johnsaw is just that big of a shithead and difficult to make sympathetic
Wasn't there a kid in a game in the 2nd one?
how is nobody talking about that sick intro shot of him on the floor of the saw room hello??😭😭
ive never seen anything by this guy or any saw movie but im hooked, the editing and humor was so on point
unironically just graduated medical school 2 weeks ago. So, uh, there is at least one doctor that watches Jeff
Hey congrats!
Gratz 👏
Congrats, your license has now been revoked
DR FROOTS 767 LETS GOOOOOO
That takes a lot of work well done bruv I'm proud of you
Missed opportunity to call himself The Saw Sage. Sawsage. Sausage.
Leeeeeet’s Saaaaaausaaaaage!
The wises of all the aged meatz
This is already the case in France with Saw VI. It's pronounced "Saw six" which sounds like "saucisse".
@@MordecaiXLII Jai meme pas penset a ca. Nice.
@@MordecaiXLII And "Saw Sept" sounds like "socks" with a lisp.
Weird fact because I have watched these movies with director's commentary way too many times: The Ice Trap in 3 was originally supposed to have the woman wearing a shirt, but I believe the director didn't like how sexual the wet shirt looked and opted for the shirtless version. He has admitted that it was in poor taste and he doesn't particularly like how that trap was shot but it was apparently way worse before he changed it due to being more unintentionally sexual.
Interesting but worrying about sexuality in a R rated film about a serial killer making death traps seems really dumb imo.
@@VainSick it is, and more if it was just one time
im 40 mins in, and I just noticed the TV in the back is literal cardboard cutout of a blue square. I love this production quality
I'm two hours into my second rewatch. What the fuck
1:42:30 she’s hiding her hand because it saves on the effects budget to only mock up 1 prosthetic hand and cut it in half. She’s hiding it for filming reasons, not plot reasons.
it would have been legit cool if she had just tricked the arsonist guy and made it out alive
missed opportunity
@@matroqueta6825 fun fact is that malik the arsonist guy is seen in the jigsaw support group in saw 3d, while i dont think the lady is ever seen again
“Is Tamara here?” is something said by one of the strangers called Dollface. It must just be a number used by lionsgate to promo the latest release
Blâhaj isn't the reason Djungelorm was taken out, don't pit 2 king against each other
I'm 8 minutes in
What
blåhaj*
@@BiggestGoofy At least they didn't use a regular a
@@baksoBoy di’ndt*
@@BiggestGoofy ?
1:48:33 "In this house we stan a serial killer with values". This reminds me of the Chucky TV show where despite being a serial killer Chucky is lgbt+ affirming. It made some sense in context because he canonically has a nonbinary child, but when it happened I just devolved into laughter at the thought of Chucky being fine with killing but drawing the line at homophobia
Doctor Franken stange too😂
I believe that scene in Chucky has the gay kid asking Chucky if he's okay with his kid being nonbinary, after being bullied by his own homophobic dad, and Chuckys response is something like, "I'm not a monster!" and then he murders some people.
Gendah flooid
"i have a queer kid. gender fluid"
He can excuse murder, but he draws the line at homophobia!
i stumbled on this video completely randomly thanks to the recommendation on RUclips and i didn’t expect to finish it when I saw it was nearly 4 hours long but you got me hooked. The way you narrates, your humour and your editing was really enthralling! You earned a new subscriber ^^
So ice girl dies for not informing the police and another guy dies for being an informant?
Yeahhh, from my understanding of these movies, unless you're literally perfect in every way, you have done something worthy of being in a trap.
@@ginrodino8542 I bet there's a trap for being too perfect
@@Sky-bx9mn To be fair, it's kind of in character for Jigsaw. His whole thing, from my perspective, is a kind of an "everyone needs a test sometime"/"suffering is a necessary part of growth"
It's just he takes it too literally because, I mean, the guy's got a brain tumor. No wonder he'd be a little (very) kooky, considering he has a rock amidst neuronz
Isn't the entire point there's zero moral consistency or ideological integrity because it's not actually about teaching lessons but a fcking crazy man serial killer cult for the sake of it, made evident by contradictions like this and the frequency of clearly unsurvivable traps?
@@ginrodino8542 i mean the wife of the guy that lied about being in a trap is literally perfect and didn't do anything wrong and dies in the possibly most horrific way in the entire franchise lol
3:25:00 the number was changed in promotion for the new “the strangers” movie. What you’re hearing is the girl knock on the door and ask “Is Tamara here?” Which is the strangers code question they ask their victims, almost like a way of marking them for death. The strangers and saw are both owned by Lionsgate, so all they did was change what played when the number was dialled.
Apparently in between Saw X and The Strangers they also used the same number to advertise a different horror movie called Imaginary
Thank you! I was looking for a comment explaining this
So you can call it later again, and hear another promotion 🤔
Someone needs to check this phone number from time to time, because they will probably put it here before promoting
3:40:56 Fortnite dancing Mark Hoffmann has got to be my favorite Saw meme ever. I love it so much I want a loop of it.
42:33 WILL NEVER NOT MENTION the symbolism of the drug dealer using the addict for his own gain
I NEVER NOTICED THAT
OMG I know that this is an older comment but thank you for this since that is an amazing detail that I never noticed, even if I’m not 100% sure if they thought of it when writing or not
The Final Destination writers hate you so much after this video.
From "No this is inconsistent with how Death has been shown to work previously." to "Haha fuck you it´s my list and it works how I want, cry more."
The Jeff villain arc.
based tbh
Having only started the video, I was confused at this comment. But I assume Jeff mentions Final Destination during it? I should keep watching and find out, instead of looking at the comments... but my ADD says "break time, you already watched like 15 minutes" 😂
@@TheMadsChe made a video like this one about final destination.
@@lightdud552 yeah I know, I watched it. But the first comment said "the final destination writers hate you after THIS video." This video is about Saw. Do you see my confusion? Lol
IMO on the last trap in spiral, the reason he would have to shoot the target to lower his dad is to alert the swat team to where the "active shooter" is, therefore setting up the whole puppet part.
trap one implies self harm is as bad as some of these crimes but like wtf bro you got to punish someone already suffering?
It's not about the self harming itself, to Jigsaw he didn't appreciate his life by self harming, not because he saw it as a crime but as him not valuing his life and appreciate what he has, there's a lot jeffiot missed in terms of dialogue and Jigsaws flawed philosophy. Jigsaw doesn't do these tests as a vigilante for justice, he does it so he can forcefully make them value their life through suffering and Jigsaw sees these people who he deems unappreciative of life and don't value it. Jigsaws ideology is very flawed, like the guy in the first movie with the razorwire or the janitor in the sixth movie in because he smokes
@@thewiggabean5937 Yeah it sorta 'lost the plot' the whole series when it came to the whole 'Jigsaw piece missing from certain people', that part of them that made them survivors, not just 'living people'.
@@thewiggabean5937 thanks for this, I understand now what jigsaws view of the world is, and its not pretty but I'm glad you helped me understand th movie better
John's rationalizations are supposed to be nonsense. He's just an angry guy who likes to torture people.
@@thewiggabean5937 i need to remind myself of this every time I'm watching Saw like yes I hate that Paul is in that razorwire maze with every fiber of my being but it does make sense for Jigsaw , much more than some of the others actually
Jeff: *drops an amazingly accurate-looking Saw-inspired quick-cut edit during the ad break where hardly anyone will have the patience to watch*
Yeah this dude's legit
I was microdosing this video for as long as possible since the premiere. But the dedication to the bit at the end deserves a slow clap. Hat's off, Jeff, bravo.
The little clown running joke was fucking hilarious
Except for Frank Reynolds. I was not pleased.
I don't get it 😞
@littleblockser8d840 most men listed are comedians and also shorter than average height
@@blackwell4701 thank you
@@blackwell4701 or Billy Mitchell
The sudden IKEA rant was quite funny given that I was watching this in bed and hugging my very own Blåhaj
Me too, mine is called Professor Shark and I love him
same, mines called flora
same!! he is just named Sharky
Y’all are naming yours??? I just call it Blahaj
i named mine george
Calling it the "McDonalds cup trap" is honestly so funny, would've loved to hear Jigsaw's tape explaining that like he did with the reverse beartrap.
Also, I think the number is saying, "Is Tamara here?" and they are just re-using that number for the brand new Strangers movie. That's a line from those movies.
Yeah, it appears to be the number Lionsgate or Blumhouse uses for promotional purposes. The imaginary bit was probably for the film Imaginary that released earlier this year. It fits the timeline.
It's scary that he played it three times... I haven't seen the movie, but don't The Strangers come back three times?
Ah damn, I just commented this. Was late by a day it seems. It's what happens when I use these long ass videos as fuel for falling asleep
@@msalisbury i think it's just a promotional line which is repurposed for the strangers chapter 1. They used that line multiple times in that movie (like they used everything from the original but thats a whole nother tangent)
THANK YOU I had a similar thought that the phone message was from the strangers. Makes sense lionsgate would reuse the number especially since X was last year
Jigsaw really seems to love putting things in glass boxes without considering that, like, movie audiences are very trained to see glass as eminently breakable. It's harder than you'd think, but still, like, a lot a lot of these traps could be sidestepped by just. Breaking the glass and retrieving the object safely that way.
Several times during the movies people try breaking it and it turns out to be unbreakable. It has to be some plastic.
@@drdrdrkyup, and the times it IS breakable, it shouldn't be broken (ex: angel trap key jar)
plexiglass + if it was real glass, punching through it would often lead to death from exsanguination
@@Zyzarda I mean like. There's usually objects in the room or previous rooms they could use.
When the guy grabbed the pen I was like oh shit he’s gunna break the glass!! Then he just stabbed himself in the neck lmao
The reason Paul died when trying to get out of the razor wire cage was because he panicked, not because it was impossible
Also in saw 4 the guy only took out one of his eyes instead of both
I think another thing to consider about the McDonald’s Cup trap in Saw 2 is the fact that she didn’t need to stick her arms in at all. There was a key in the room, easily accessible, which would’ve opened the box to allow her to grab the antidote without hurting herself. Simple, right? But the problem with that is, by that point in the movie, they were all exhausted and not at 100% mental capacity due to the poison, meaning her chances of understanding her scenario well enough to notice the key is unlikely. I get that she wandered off - so you could argue that there’s supposed to be more than one brain on that trap, or that someone is supposed to have gotten an antidote by then, and therefore would be able to think clearly… but in that case, it’s FAR too simple a trap. I feel like it was set up to be so deceptively simple (stick hand in pain box, grab antidote) because it was built with the intention that no one with the mental faculties to figure it out would ever reach it. Which I think bumps up the avoidability *only* because of the cast’s specific circumstances
I also get annoyed everytime bc cause she not have used her free hand to hold the blades open to get her hand out safely!!!!!!!
@@Jampzz That's literally part of what the post you're responding to is explaining. Why would she think to do that? She's dying from poison and at this point is delirious. She wouldn't have had the mental capacity to know anything about this trap, let alone figure out how to get out safely.
Lmao McDonald's straw trap
Cup*
The trap wasn’t for her and she also throws away the tape explaining the rules of the game.
She is like you said delirious and desperate and stupidly screws herself without thinking.
I love how excited Jeff gets at the mildest hint that there is an ARG element to the Saw movies as of recent time, eagerly trying to find any clues he can
What's ARG?
Argelia
@@drdrdrk just so you know for future reference, this question and others like it are very easily googleable. it means alternate reality game.
@@drdrdrk an Arg is an Alternate Reality Game. It’s underneath the ‘unfiction’ umbrella, which is fictional media that tries to convince you it’s not. Typically it is horror. An Alternate Reality Game would be one of these Webseries that also include puzzles, codes, or any audience interaction.
cool ARGs have physical real world clues but those have the issue of the availability traveling
I have no clue why this is my favorite of your videos. I have never watched any of the saw movies, and am not a particularly big fan of the torture porn movies, yet somehow you managed to make this entire video one of the most enjoyable things on the internet. You're absolutely hilarious
Love the constant struggle of reminding people that the S of the S.A.W rubric is Dante's concept of contrapasso in The Inferno, where punishment in hell is drawn directly from the sin committed in life, and not personal satisfaction of how a trap works.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. A trap can be proportionally painful in accordance with contrapasso while also being narratively dissatisfying.
My favorite trap is the one where Jigsaw says, "It's Jiggin' time", and then jigs around.
Jigsaw gets jiggy with it
truly a spectacle for everyone to see... seesaw. get it? as in seeing saw, saw movies. is it seeing movies or watching? ah, fuck it.
you made me lol
I also lol 😂
Commence the jigglin
Hands down, best ad I've ever watched. The in universe build up and transition to the cliché fourth wall break was so smooth, I could polish a mirror with it.
2:12:54 To give more context for this trap and Saw 3D generally
Before Saw 3D became Saw 3D, it was intended to be two separate (not 3D) films. Saw: The Final Chapter, Parts 1 and 2.
What was supposed to happen was, after the shot of Dina hanging gutted, the camera cuts to the chaos of the crowd panicking. Stoically, standing in the back, was John. He would then utter something along the lines of, “If they didn’t know who I was before, they most certainly will now.” It was meant to be Jigsaw’s ‘coming out party’ to the public at large.
The twist from this scene would come back in the final act, during the Dr. Gordon montage, where after John says that line, Gordon steps up next to him as another stoic observer. This was John showing his work to Gordon for the first time, much like how he initiated Hoffman. And after Hoffman passed out from Gordon’s syringe, the other two Pigheads would unmask as Brad and Ryan- the survivors of the Love Triangle game in question.
All that got royally fucked up when the producers cancelled the plan of eight movies, dropped it to seven, and forced the merger of both scripts into one. The Love Triangle trap became completely pointless and disconnected from everything. Then slapping the hokey 3D gimmick on top, all contributed to the mess that Saw VII came out to be. Should’ve been a much different finale for that era of the franchise.
I mean...yeah, the trap doesn't fit the film we got. But what you describe sounds like an extra like minute of screen time. Not really worth making an entire film just for that one scene to fit. Half the films are incoherent messes already, I don't think it made too much of an impact.
@@tournesol99I don't agree. Those scenes would have helped in giving credibility to Jigsaw's legacy and following.
@@tournesol99bro he literally just said there was a whole other script for the movie and you took at as just those few scenes being cut are you daft?
I do love that Saw 10 has a bunch of people scamming old cancer patients knowing that those people will die soon anyway but then it turns out they've scammed JIGSAW. How truly horrifying, like if there's anything that would stop me from becoming a scammer it would be the negligible but REAL chance that I scam jigsaw by accident and get got for real.
I am a retired medical examiner who now learns learns languages and enjoy videos recounting art in personable ways! Keep up the good work!
The "I wear my sunglasses at knives" joke is my personal favorite joke in the video
2:18:40 for those who want a Timestamp.
@@LinksYTLinkwe don't deserve you
So I can... So I can
His vision is augmented
@@LinksYTLinkyou’re a hero!
Phone numbers starting 555 (after area code) don't exist. That's why they're used in movies in case someone tries to call them. Someone pointed it out (In Detective Pony, the most unhinged Fanfic adjacent piece of art I've ever read) and now every time I see a phone in a movie I see 555 and think "oh look fake number" and now, reader, you will do it too. You can never unsee this.
Why would I want to unsee this? It’s really cool:). I love trivia:)))
Based detective pony mention
I lived in the 90s... our shows back then actively joked about 555 being fake.
that's pretty based ngl
i will forget about this in about a week
3:23:00 "Is Tamara here?" is a quote from the Movie The Strangers
I’m a bit late to the party, but I’m pretty sure the reason so many traps are ending up in C is because the avoidability score usually directly counteracts the wickedness score. Evening them out. A bit of a flaw in the rating system, would I say.
I would push back on this, only because we see several traps that have alright avoidability and wickedness, but are then revealed to not actually be escapable. This drops their avoidability score to practically nothing, but the wickedness does not increase at the same time, which is what you would expect to see if they were indeed direct counterparts.
For context. Anything that is a plastic/metal/polymer box that holds bullets is a mag. A clip is the metal sheet with bullets out in the air that’s usually used by bolt action guns that don’t have a magazine
thank you!
i've always been curious what the difference was since everyone seems to get so pissed about it, but never quite enough to google it.
Ding ding ding ding, finally a person gets it correct
Except guns that are loaded by using (stripper) clips *have* magazines because that's the definition of "a thing that stores ammo". The magazine is just not external and/or detachable - it's an internal, or "fixed", magazine.
I don’t even like saw but this was such an interesting video and features such well done analysis that I’m subscribing. You clearly actually care about the videos you make and the topics they cover, excited to watch more from you!
for saw 3 in the ice room, it’s my thought that she’s getting sprayed with water and then being froze is because she got “cold feet” when witnessing the crime and deciding not to talk to the police. which kind of makes sense to me, i’m not sure if it’s one of those confirmation bias things tho.
I think that *and* that not helping them is a cold thing to do in general - it works IMO, even if its a little weak.
i think that trap 5 shouldn't be called a venus flytrap, but a reverse reverse bear trap
this is a good idea i think
Gneius
Sooo.... a bear trap.
@@willonastring (I know, sorry)
@@anib8863 ahhhh, my mistake, i though you were genuinely confused 🥲 tone is difficult on the internet
the public trap from 3D feels like one of the film's producers/financiers got cheated on IRL and the whole scene was one of their demands
The phone call says “Is Tamara here?” The same question the killers from “The Strangers” ask before beginning their home invasion to test if anyone is home.
Yup, it looks like Lion's Gate just reuses the number for whatever horror movie they release next
Was just about to say this!
Came here looking for this. Did a whole "woooo look at me!" but wanted to check before commenting haha. Also, they add the whole "door-knocking" thing at the beginning.
wait, season 2 of the Chucky tv series did the exact same thing.... i didn't know it was a "trope" of sorts lol
Lionsgate DESPERATELY wanting to capitalize on horror fans love of ARGs, choosing to include a phone number, but not wanting to invest in more than one phone number is incredibly funny. like “nahh they’ll never notice. just use the same number. update the answering machine”
Wait so... They had that huge reveal that LAWRENCE, a legacy character that i imagine everyone was stoked about seeing again, worked for jigsaw, and then they... Never brought him back again? Not even to kill him off? He just killed Hoffman, walked away, and never came back?
They're probably going to bring him back in one of the upcoming movies (at least 2 more are coming, one taking place between Saw 2 and 3, and one after Saw 3D as far as I know)
Doubt it...he came back only for the 7th movie cause of the lawsuit settlement or something like that. @@echolynn13
@@bluedream3481 He wanted his character to appear in the last Saw movie, as he said himself. That's why he appeared in the Saw 3D. But as we can see, that was far from the last. :D
thing is, hoffman isn't dead (as we can tell from his Saw X cameo and has been confirmed alive so I assume he will be in Saw XI) so lawrence just came back for... nothing
@@ultraviolenciia saw x happens between 1 and 2, so it doesn't prove anything
Hey Jeff. I had no idea people were leaving cruel comments on your Final Destination video. It was really good and that's coming from a fan of the franchise. I hope the Saw fandom treats you better here and i believe that they will. A lot of my pals who love Saw recognize it's very serious flaws: especially for entries 4, 5, and 3D. The cheap soap opera elements and ridiculous editing choices is part of the charm for me. Also I'm so glad you took note of the absolutely bonkers interrogation scene in 4. It's such a vlink and you'll miss it thing but it never fails to make me giggle on a rewatch.
As someone with no interest in watching the Saw movies, I'm glad this exists so I can get a quick overview of the traps, which I can only assume at this point are the selling point for the series.
Well the traps are a part of the selling point, every movie having a twist is another, the crime thriller elements, the Grungy aesthetics in the originals, and the exploration of a more human horror movie villain are also selling points.
3:30:44 I love moments like these. Like, it should be clear by the second movie that John is a hypocrite. He morally absolves himself as this savior who puts you through tests and torment to make you a better person. But his reasons even at the start were petty, seriously, giving a death penalty for someone having depression or being too focused on your job.
And if you really think about it, most of his actions are just revenge. Revenge at the cops for daring to do their jobs (for once), revenge at the world for being the one who suffered and here, revenge at the people who wronged him. He's just a hypocrite with a god complex.
The suicide thing and the working too much thing kinda have a through line though. John wants people to appreciate life as a gift, and not take anything for granted. He hopes both these men will find a new value for their lives after this.
@@castrochris94 here's the problem. Torturing people don't make them appreciate life more. Especially when that torture leads to death.
@@DissedRedEngie Yeah, his logic is fairly consistent, but that doesn't make him right.
The movies clearly established him as the bad guy and that his philosophy is flawed and he is a man with a god complex doing evil, I don’t understand how anyone thinks he is portrayed as sympathetic or righteous, also we don’t talk about Saw X they butchered the whole point of the series with that.
giving the classroom trap a 1 for survivability is hilarious considering the jaw AND the fact the doors were permanently sealed XD
The reverse bear-trap, while simple in comparison, will always be so iconic of the SAW franchise that people are going to remember it for years, the same way they do Leatherface's chainsaw or Jason Voorhee's machete... In my opinion, that is!!
it also helps that its pretty much the only trap to be repeated multiple times in the series. like the rest are mostly one off and specific to the scenario the characters are in, but the rbt is worn by three different characters (four if you count david in the short film and five if u count the video game)
its iconic even just in the original saw movie, but the repetition definitely helps memorability for people who have watched the sequels
the eye trap is actually worse than we think because the janitor would bleed out from his eye sockets before he could get medical help, its a lot of suffering while being blind and with at least 3 broken fingers
I heard that it depends on how much of the optic nerves get yanked out. They go pretty deep into the critical areas of the brain. If those go, then you're dead pretty quick
@@arathyn8294 That was my exact thought, too. Between blood loss and the potential for significant brain damage, the prognosis is not great.
Trap never happened it’s all in Jigsaws imagination, also it’s highly unlikely a vacuum could suck your eyes completely out, those muscles are strong.
I'm sick as shit with Covid right now and fell asleep to this video. Coming in and out of a very altered consciousness to Jeff describing Saw traps was such a surreal experience.
He actually thought about Hoffman for so long he shaved his head. 😭
I started crying cause i loved his hair style
He Walter White’d 😭
monk time
This is now the second video essayist I watch who shaves his head completely bald after a several hour long review of an entire franchise (the first one being BHUltra's video on how total drama ruins the contestants)
Harvey from stardew to Walter white
jeff youre a madman. loved everything. no notes, great time. watched this with my boyfriend who MONTHS ago we were watching your final destination video and said out loud "i really hope he does one just like this for saw" and then a month later you announced your poll on patreon. we couldn't believe it. great haircut btw you look great. happy pride!
My high school hockey coach played Paul from the razorwire trap. He was also the American in Pepsiman for the ps1. Mike Butters.
shoutout to the E on the tier list
most people skip E
Tbf, e is f tier based on the scoring, f is f tier based on his personal opinion
Because in Japan (like most schools in the US), which these tier list grades are based on, don't have the E grade. Japan has the S grade, that's why it is there.
I've always thought that, man, in the arm splitting blood collecting trap... JUST PISS IN IT or at least spit in it, or I'm sure there's some liquid laying around that you could use. And even if you do use blood, why did bro push his arm all the way to the elbow ffs
A huge missed opportunity that Jeff didn't say "rest in pieces" not a single time
Thank you Jeff for giving us one last trap by making us suffer through you shaving your head. What dedication
come on "i saw every saw movie" was right there
missed opportunity (congrats on first)
“Watch me see every saw movie?”
There's still time for him to change the title! 😊
_edit: buuuuut he didn't... womp womp lol_
See: Saw
I too have viewed every saw viewed review
The phone number is for sure "Is Tamara here?," a reference to the Strangers films, where they harrass targets that are home alone, and the first thing they do is knock on the door, typically interrupting SEX, and a little girl (Pinup Girl) asks for "Tamara"
I'm a hardcore Saw franchise fan and I 100% agree with you about Spiral. I really enjoyed it, and having that refreshing new take on the franchise helped me recover from how tired I was getting of the same old format, so now I can even rewatch the older movies with new enjoyment
I thought your Saw video would be you in front of a whiteboard ranking the traps and I would have been very happy with it. The editing and effects blew me away! You have outdone yourself
Fuck this is beyond hilarious. I'm only 20 minutes in and I've audibly cracked up multiple times. I'm wary clicking on such long videos bc often theyre just brain dead recaps or sound like someone reading a wikipedia synopsis for 3 hrs.... This slaps
John Kramer has always been a compelling character and Tobin Bell plays him so well, that is why all Saw Fans want him around. He is the heart of the Saw franchise and it just doesn’t feel the same without him.
I recall reading, I think on an IMDB trivia page or somewhere, that the victim in the ice room trap was originally clothed, but the director found that having a wet shirt clinging to the actress made it look like they were trying to be titillating, and so they just did the scene nude. Don't know if that's true, but I'm inclined to believe that was the thinking, given that none of the rest of the franchise has really focused that much on the female body during traps or really any scenes.
This is 100% true, except that part where the franchise doesn't focus on the female body because have you seen Saw 3D? Holy misogyny. One of the producers was going through a brutal divorce with none other than the actress playing Jill. I guess a lot about her involvement in that film and this franchise as a whole has just started to make sense to you.
I love the irony that making her naked was the less inappropriate option
Although it also makes sense considering a human would die of hypothermia faster if they were naked over being clothed
in my opinion i think the reason they made her nude was just to make that trap more painful considering youll feel a lot colder without clothing as opposed to with. you can take as much clothing as you can get in a trap like that even if its just a plain female Tee.
poor Blåhaj out here catching strays
1:23:52 I love all the simple nicknames, bland cop, lawyer man, dad cop, FBI man, doctor girl, Jeff
Last night I dreamt that I had won some sort of thing where I could attend a school in Finland. I was really nervous on if my Finnish was going to be good or not, if I was going to be made fun of for not understanding it that well and if I was going to understand my teachers, so I went to my first class of the day only to see everyone just speaking in regular English during lessons and stuff so I ask my classmate what was up with that and they went “Oh, Finnish isn’t real. We just made that up so people would be discouraged to come.”
Anyways, this doesn’t have anything to do with the video, I just felt like putting this here to boost the algorithm a little more. Great video as always btw! :)
Mitä helvettiä
wait, Finnish is real?
I was so confused 😂
Shit guys they’re onto us, voi perkele
The number of times I’ve laughed out loud and I’m not even halfway through. Truly this is a gift! Can’t wait to see more from you, Jeff! ❤
I thought we had reached peak Swedish energy with the Ikea detour, but the absolute *venom* towards Nazi iconography at 1:29:00 coming out like some ancestral memory topped that.
America: "Punch all Nazis?"
Sweden: "You punch them? Like ... [loading rifle] ... just with your fists?"
At least two of those aren't just fictional nazi iconography, but an irl neo-nazi symbols, the celtic cross is 100% a real thing, and the lightning bolts are almost certainly meant to represent the SS lightning bolts.
@@mishal2401i didn't recognize anything else but the lightning bolts definitely triggered Nazi alarm bells, very similar to actual iconography
This comment is comical given that Sweden sucked up to the Nazis - they didn't fight them.
You realize the Swedes have a neo-nazi movement, and historically aided the nazis right? It isn't like the Swedes historically hated nazis or something, they aren't known for being anti-nazi the way Norwegians are.
nah, the swedes sold iron throughout the war to Germany. If he was Norwegian, that would be an ancestral memory
Almost 4 hours of Hbomberguy talking about plagiarism, 3 and a half hours of Münecat talking about evolutionary psychology, 4 hours of Jenny Nicholson talking about a Star Wars hotel, almost 3 hours of Contrapoints talking about Twilight, 2 and a half hours of Dan Olson talking about a Reddit investment cult, and now 4 hours of Jeffiot talking about Saw movies. Noone dare say again that Millennials have no attention span. We just need stuff to be interesting.
Four hours??? Is that how long it'll be? I assumed it'd go on maybe one. Also add Kwite talking about icebergs for 3 hours bro is an ICON.
@@cuoregoon What a perfect typo. 😂
the way i also have watched literally every single one of the videos mentioned including the icebergs iceberg one from the first reply………… 🥸
@@mariisboring NERD
trrrueeee
I like the idea that someday in the future, the only trace left of the Unus Annus project will be buried in someone's 4 hour Saw manifesto
say what you want about the saw movies but YOU LEAVE MY BLÅHAJ OUT OF THIS
TRUUUUUEEEE
im watching this with my shork and she did NOT appreciate the slander
LITERALLY HE HURT KLAUS’ FEELINGS
i showed the blåhaj slander section to my blåhaj-loving girlfriend and she got so mad. she says she wants to release a diss track about mr jeffiot. afaik she has not made a song ever before in her life. so ... he better watch out, i guess.
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“For your final challenge. Let yo bih go through your phone.” -Jigsaw
aw hell nah jigsaw yo ahh tweakin 😭
Goddamn it, that made me cackle
Also, with the rib cage trap, detective girl could've tipped the beaker over to spill the liquid. If there was less liquid, less of her hands would be reaching for the key. Could've been less painful even though she dies anyway.