Piers Morgan & Douglas Murray VS Abdullah al Andalusi & Dr Abuelaish on ISRAEL & GAZA
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- The full unedited version of the debate is now released, complete with text enhancement for audio for audience to full catch what was said (which the studio muted or reduced when 'some' speakers were speaking).
Piers Morgan asked me a question he can't define, then runs away when we get close to a definition he might not like the ramifications of.
This actually happened:
Me: "Killing civilians is an act of terror"?
Piers: "No"
WATCH THE FULL DEBATE
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Mister Al-Andalusi: Hizb Ut-Tahrir is not banne din germany. Douglas Murray is lying. Viewers google it.
Googled it: "Hizb ut-Tahrir has been banned in Germany since 2003" from European Parliament website... so mister Al-Andalusi who is the lier here and how much more lies have you said during this interview?
Some use the mistake that the organization is banned in Germany to paint everything you said is a lie and everything Douglas said is true! Please address this point to the audience!
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12:40 did morgan realise what he was saying? 🤦♂
Al-Andalusi: Define terrorism
Piers Morgan: Terrorism is terrorism
Al-Andalusi: Is the imprisonment, torture, and killing of Palestinian children and women terrorism?
Piers Morgan: No.
Al-Andalusi: Is the Palestinian resistance to the occupier terrorism?
Peres: Yes,
the audience: Piers Morgan is just a dog for the Zionists
That's a good enough summary of this show
Piers is not pro Israel. You just call anyone who doesn't go along with your hateful narrative a Zionist. And when you say Zionist, normal people know which group of people you actually are referring to. You have to tell yourselves lies to function. Sad.
@ichigo0070 Let me quote the discussion from a little further back:
11:20 AA: you haven't answered my question.
PM: Yes I have, I don't think Israel is a terror organization.
Despite the fact that ....[ analogies to Germany bombing England]
You asked me a question, and I have given you an unequivocal answer. Now let me ask you if you can give me one: Do you believe Hamas are a terror organization. (Basically the same exact question)
[pause] 'OK and I'd like ask you..' (followed by multiple dodges of the question), 'I need clarification' , 'are you the British govt?' , 'and I'd like to ask you..' , 'what does it mean?' (I guess he is asking what a terror organization is) , 'I don't know.. you're asking me a question..' , 'I want your definition' , 'define terror'. [more back and forth, then finally] 'I don't know! you're asking me the question!'
Finally Piers M: 'You have no idea what terrorism is? I would say massacring 1200 people as they did on Oct 7 as Hamas did is an act of terror. Do you agree?"
[and he never answers]
If he can't say 'yes it's terrorism' or 'no it's not terrorism' then I can understand why the discussion went nowhere with him.
26:04 nice job. the guy totally beat piers morgan. lol. also at 21:10 in psUFb1DKeAM - 2023Dec13
oh man pro-israel side facepalms hard. piers so lost this. the answer of course is terrorism (or just terror for legitimate groups or semi-legitimate groups in the case of leaders of not-quite-full states like palestine) is usually about violating the principle of distinction. the allies didn't violate distinction. Hamas is if they violated distinction. there's the human shields thing which apparently hasn't been proven. but taking hostages is a war crime. so yeah there you go. not sure if that counts as terrorism but idk i don't keep up w/ the various names of war criminals.
but of course there's also principle of proportionality. there's distinction-terrorism and then there's proportionality-terrorism. genocide is about distinction. there's distinction-genocide and then there's proportionality-genocide.
however 'The judgement of a field commander in battle over military necessity and proportionality is rarely subject to domestic or international legal challenge'
and well i was told yemenite kurds uyghur's suffered more than the palestinians so well yeah...
You accuse anyone who doesn't agree with your false narrative, historical revisionism, fallacious arguments, etc of just being a pawn. Not only is that childish, it's your way of de-legitimizing someone. A personal attack when one doesn't have a proper argument or can even debate properly.
The audacity of a non-Arabic speaker to insist on the definition of the Arabic word 'Jihad'. Every fact Douglas Murray provides should be double-checked for truthfulness & accuracy.
Murray intentionally misinforms his gullible audience with wrong interpretations.
@@FreePalestine_____ Yes.
Seems you're allergic to the truth and make up anything to not have to deeply think about what Murray and Piers has said, I dont like Piers either but he won the debate
@@akoden2667 Only thing murray and his ilk are spewing is lie. murray is literally funded by AIPAC. So there is nothing to 'think' about his lies and deception.
I don't see anything wrong with Murrays arguments.
Thank you for putting this interview on your channel. I find Piers Morgan's one-sidedness odious. He's trying to prevent exposing himself and cuts speakers off, but it wasn't lost on the audience: He asks question about being a terrorist act but refuses to define the word. He insists on the killing of Israeli population as being terrorism but not the killing of Palestinians.
I'm tired of peirs morgan 😩. But at least he is exposing himself and Israel for the cancer they are.
Say you've never lived or been to Israel without saying you've never lived or been to Israel XD
@@Mansur528hz say you are a savage who supports savagery and the killing/starvation of millions (of Palestinians) without saying you are a savage
Masha Allah, brother Abdullah is a true intellectual and held Morgan against his inconsistencies, rightfully
@@_h_r_1_ Bravo!
its very revealing that douglas murray will debate anyone except the monolith of reason and truth Dr Finklestein
May Allah bless you bro for exposing that hypocrite. Keep it up.
Piers wants people to condemn “terrorism” yet he can’t even give an objective definition of terrorism 🤣
Douglas has made me significantly more homophobic...
Andalusi the one waving finger saying Israel is terrorist without even defning what terrorist is. Your argument is weak!!!. Just like the rest of arabs muslim
Piers morgan will never yell at an american, israeli or british official/defender the way he yelled at Wahid. Its irrelevant what you believe or not, morgan is biased for one side
You did really well brother, really articulate. Very well spoken.
Naw, it was crap.
Thank you Abdullah ❤
Piers Morgan is a joke, imagine how he allowed Douglas talked him shit without even answering the question he asked him.
Gutless murray cant stop catching Ls
We were just made aware that Piers Morgan doesn’t even know what he has been asking people, since he can’t even define it. What a joke
Thank you so much brother, may Allah accept it from you ❤
Gutle$s scurry talks like he's being tongued by a cactus below his table 🌵 😂😂
He probably has deep throated one
Uncensored if you agree with Piers Morgan and his "do you condem Hamas"? BS . 😂
Thank you
In some some countries joint committee of ulema has called to completely to abstain from debating in the tv shows.
1200 people killed is a terror attack. 140,000 people killed in an atomic bomb - how do you term that and the country that did it??
If Morgan asks you about oct7 ask him define terrism first! Simple as that
Which minutes were cut in piers show? I'll check the missed ones here
The ridiculous notion that you can platform someone like Douglas Murray and put him anywhere near our brother is absurd. His show should be called Pierce Hypocrite Morgan.
Check out his recent tweet about the hostages, Mr gutless murray @abdullahandalusi
Allah bless the Doctor on the show. He sat through ppl undermining the tragedy after tragedy his family and country have endured for decades and didn't take any of it lying down Allahumma baariklaihu. He made some very inportant points well despite the tide against him ❤
Douglas so twisting and not stright forward he going round and round the bush, you can tell he lies, and like a child
That was one-sided circular entrapment if I've ever heard of one before on Piers' side
Douglas Murray intellectually, factually and elegantly wipes the floor with all the Hamas apologetics. What weasels you lot are.
Thank you
Well done.
27:39 "yea yea Iblees" 🤣
lol
new channel's name "Piers Morgan Censored"
May Allah protect you and May Allah bless you in this world and in Akhira , we need more people like you .
LOL special place in hell for people like murry
@XtR3m15t But you are certain that Hitler is going to hell right? Based on consistency same can be said about murry.
That's quite evil of you.
What does he mean by IF? Are you all crazy? Don't answer that. Normal people know the answer
Hell fire exists for people like mUrray.
Because he is right?
@@Rob-cy8xc Was the Devil right too? His minions thought so.
Here is a better question, does Murray even believe in God?
Murrays face, holding that hatred inside waiting to explode. 🤭
face of genocide supporter
Truly disgusting how Piers Morgan tried to take away someone’s livelihood. 😡
Haha Andalusia you had him a with the definition of the terrorism .. he ends the discussion soon as he’s cornered .. well done
Piers denying all the facts, hiding behind untruthful, non accurate and non proven accusations without clarification. what type of journalism is this !?
May Allah bless you and this ummah iA
hahaha the journalist doesnt know the definition of terrorism after mo hijab told him
When Piers gets cornered, he runs away. Then he uses that to prepare for his next interview and come with a rehearsed comeback
20:47 Murray should learn about that in the Talmud that Jews are not allowed to treat gentiles and leave them to die.
This Islamist or this Muslim the contempt in his voice is clear… Piers entertains bigots like himself.. and the numbers of the dead come from UN
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Wow piers couldnt be a good journalist if his life depended on it!
Douglas is such a Weasel lmaooo 🤣
You lunatic😂
Douglass Murray is a BOSS
Of pighumpers
@@anasazmi3084 That would be Abdullah Al Andalusi you mean.
"What about the killing of my daughters" the pain on his face as he said this. Heartbreaking
Douglas Murray relying to insults like always.
Douglas say he cant see him, is it him, so much lies, he is listening and know why did he lies,
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
25:04 It really catches them on the hop when you respond to incredulity with more incredulity, love it 😂
Who is banned in many countries?
"spontaneous terror attack" so stupid you can't help but laugh🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There can be no honest dialogue with people who hold to medieval beliefs.
If they do not like the UK, pick one of their Muslim paradises and leave.
Then everyone will be happy.
OMG! I have never seen Piers Morgan so frustrated with Abdullah! I literally died ROFLMAO it was so hilarous to the point that PM even said Ehh just like the illiterate Asian would do! it was so funny I had to put it on repeat! 26:22
One of the best statements that came from Abdullah Andalusia so far on piers morghan show. He doesn't even know the definition of the question he is been asking for 3 months...
Be Morally Consistent.
Brother abdullah according to Hadith* you will be inshallah rewarded by Allah for standing by dr.Wahid and his organization and the muslims in Gaza and you will be granted (nasr) from allah at a time and place at which u wish u can get that (nasr)
"ما من امرئ يخذل امرأ مسلما عند موطن تنتهك فيه حرمته وينتقص فيه من عرضه إلا خذله الله عز وجل في موطن يحب فيه نصرته وما من امرئ ينصر امرأ مسلما في موطن ينتقص فيه من عرضه وينتهك فيه من حرمته إلا نصره الله في موطن يحب فيه نصرته"
2m in and piers doesnt know what terrorism is 😂😂😂
Douglas has being washing you up and down everywhere you go 😂
Douglas Murray won this debate.
Abdullah please brother you need to stop coming on tv. You dont help the cause. Just leave it to mojammed hijab who is the only one that can deal with people like piers
I did Google it. And you are lying on the LIVE TV.
What’s the point of taking your seriously if I literally used Google and found you to be a cheap lier 🤦♂️
Mashaallah brother. You are brilliant.
Stop applauding mediocrity and a failure at debate
Ask Piers - _For what crime Israel needs to commit to be considered as terrorist state._
Hizb ut-Tahrir was banned in Germany in 2003 by the German ministry of interior1. The organization was outlawed for standing against international understanding and advocating violence1. The ban was confirmed to be legal by a court decision1. The German Ministry considered that Hizb Ut-Tahrir was a foreign private association operating on an international scale and that there existed no sub-organisation in Germany2.
26:04 nice job. you totally beat piers morgan. lol. also at 21:10 in psUFb1DKeAM - 2023Dec13
oh man pro-israel side facepalms hard. piers so lost this. the answer of course is terrorism (or just terror for legitimate groups or semi-legitimate groups in the case of leaders of not-quite-full states like palestine) is usually about violating the principle of distinction. the allies didn't violate distinction. Hamas is if they violated distinction. there's the human shields thing which apparently hasn't been proven. but taking hostages is a war crime. so yeah there you go. not sure if that counts as terrorism but idk i don't keep up w/ the various names of war criminals.
but of course there's also principle of proportionality. there's distinction-terrorism and then there's proportionality-terrorism. genocide is about distinction. there's distinction-genocide and then there's proportionality-genocide.
however 'The judgement of a field commander in battle over military necessity and proportionality is rarely subject to domestic or international legal challenge'
and well i was told yemenite kurds uyghur's suffered more than the palestinians so well yeah...
you are a genius at putting words into other peoples mouths
This Pierce guy lacks of a proper backbone. His arguments doesn‘t make any sense.
Why Piers don’t let the Muslim person talking as long as he let the other people talk
Ustadh it was a stroke of simple genius asking him for a definition of terrorism!
Piers had been revealed.
Bro got destroyed by Douglas Murray
No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.
Nelson Mandela,
Is Dogging Murray jealous of the beards? 😅
Dr Abuelaish is says "Hamas doesn't represent the Palestinian people" then "Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people in free democratic election" --- contradiction by definition. Dr Abuelaish is confused at best.
I agree 😂😂😂
They use to day 40 babies were be headed now they say some people were beheaded.
You should take Douglas’s Murray to court for defamation. Saying you support terrorism is a major slander. Just make sure you haven’t said anything like that to him or he’ll counter sue.
Douglas Murray criticising 'big bearded' Muslim men shows his own insecurities as a smoothfaced He-man/she-man.
We are called to be better than name-calling and insults. You're just mad Piers and Murray won the debate.
Gutless Murray having his full 10 minutes without a rebuttal or response from Muslims is winning how 😂@@Mansur528hz
So I googled it and it was banned in Germany lol ur the liar
"At the time, Palestinian villages had no walls or watchtowers, and they still do not have them today.
People moved freely in and out, enjoying the view of villages along the road, as well as the food and water available for every passerby.
Zionist settlements, on the contrary, religiously guarded their orchards and fields and perceived anyone touching them as robbers and terrorists. This is why, from the very beginning, they did not build normal human habitats, but bastions with walls and watchtowers - blurring the difference between civilians and soldiers in the settler community.
For a short moment, the Zionist settlements won the accolade of the socialist and communist movements around the world, simply because they were places where communism was unsuccessfully and fanatically experimented with. The nature of these settlements, however, tells us, from the very beginning, what Zionism meant to the land and its people.
Whoever came as a Zionist, whether hoping to find an empty land, or determined to make it an empty land, was drafted into a settler military society that could only implement the dream of the empty land by sheer force.
The native population declined the offer to, in the words of Theodore Herzl, be “spirited away” to other countries.
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Keeping the ‘Dream’ Alive
Those who remained in historical Palestine continued to prove that the land was not empty and that the settlers needed to use force to achieve their goal of turning an Arab, Muslim and Christian Palestine into a European Jewish one.
With every passing year, more force needed to be used to achieve this European dream at the expense of the Palestinian people.
By 2020, we have already marked one hundred years of an ongoing attempt to implement, by force, the vision of turning an ‘empty land’ into a Jewish entity. Moreover, for some democratic as well as some theocratic reasons, it seems that there is no Jewish consensus on this part of the ‘vision’
Billions and billions of American taxpayers’ money was, and is still needed to maintain the dream of the empty land of Palestine - and the relentless Zionist quest to realize it.
An unprecedented repertoire of violent and ruthless means had to be employed on a daily basis against Palestinians, their villages and cities, or the whole Gaza Strip, in order to maintain the dream.
The human cost paid by the Palestinians for this failed project has been enormous - and is around 100,000 to date.
The number of wounded, traumatized Palestinians is so high that probably every Palestinian family has at least one member, whether a child, a woman or a man, who can be included in this list.
The nation of Palestine - whose human capital was able to move economies and cultures around the Arab world - has been fragmented and prevented from exhausting this incredible potential for their own benefit.
This is the background for the genocidal policy that Israel is now enacting in Gaza and for the unprecedented killing campaign in the West Bank.
why do so many supporters of Israel and the Israeli Jews themselves believe that this is a sustainable project in the 21st century?
The truth is, it is not sustainable.
The problem is that its disintegration could be a long process and a very bloody one, whose principal victims would be the Palestinians.
It is also not clear if the Palestinians are ready to take over, as a united liberation movement, following the final stages of the disintegration of the Zionist project.
Will they be able to shake off the sense of defeat and rebuild their homeland as a free country for all in the future?
Personally, I have great faith in the young Palestinian generation, who will be able to do so.
This last phase could be less violent; it could be more constructive and productive for both societies, that of the settlers and that of the colonized people, if only the region and the world intervened now.
If some nations stopped enraging millions of people by claiming that a century-old project - aimed to empty a land from its indigenous people by force - is a project that reflects an enlightened democracy and a civilized society.
If this happened, Americans could stop asking “Why do they hate us?”.
And Jews around the world would not be forced to defend Jewish racism by weaponizing antisemitism and holocaust denial.
Hopefully, even Christian Zionists would return to the basic human precepts Christianity stands for and would join at the forefront of the coalition determined to stop the destruction of Palestine and its people.
Multinational corporations, security companies and military industries, of course, would not join a new coalition that opposes the project of emptying the land. However, they could be challenged.
The only necessary prerequisite is that we, a naive people who still believe in morality and justice, who serve as lighthouses in this age of darkness, truly understand that stopping the attempt to empty Palestine is the beginning of a new era, of a much better world for everyone. "
Ilan Pappé is a professor at the University of Exeter. He was formerly a senior lecturer in political science at the University of Haifa. He is the author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
So be anti Zionism
Piers Morgan got schooled on history!
Hesa halaa😂
The guy in the black hat should be locked up.
Islam is sick
no significance hit him hard XD
עם ישראל חי 🇮🇱
Not for long
@@Notreallyhereanymore It's the longest phenomenon in history. Ask Mark Twain:
He has made a marvellous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?
עם הנצח לא מפחד
Muray very clear the definition of terrorist. That what IDF Doing
😂😂😂 muray still insane
That gp should be in jail, not just fired
Cope
Love Douglas! He is very bright man! And he can see through all this bs those stupid parrots saying
2 cents for Hasbara troll AIPAC lobby.
Whatever makes you sleep peacefully...
He's obnoxious and comes across as very arrogant. Clearly has a hatred of Muslims and Islam, but does little to back up his prejudices. Usually, it's ppl who have a problem with Muslims that gloss over his flawed criticisms
Bruh Piers repeating the same stupid suit that’s been debunked 1000 times is just sad at this point 🤦♂️🙄