Yeah i think the heart n soul has gone from sports bikes....too many electronic settings that's too distracting for me... lot of people switching to the adventure bike...i love all sorts of bikes but the old sports bikes are my favs....the sound, the appearance of them and the ride itself... i have an 06 RR-6. Can be seen in my profile picture, i can spend 4 to 5 hours in the saddle on any given day, i use it as a tourer, cos its my type a bike.. im almost 47, 6ft 4 and near 18 stone, bike feels amazing compared to the other 2014 600rr i have..... definitely agree that they are not suitable to the roads we have, plus my skill levels mean this bike is way more than i need....but i still needed it......its a visual thing aswell as an audible thing, plus i love the smelll of the exhaust fumes...... .safe travels pal...have fun...From Tommy in Ireland 🇮🇪
The guys with money want comfort, right? They just want to cruise the lanes where they live or go to Europe on tour, a sports bike is not optimal for that kind of thing. Young guys cannot afford the top end sports bikes so they ride all the older six hundreds, YZF600R, ZZR's etc I am slightly older than you, when i was 15 I had a Honda 250 Superdream, was great, the GPZ was a sports bike, the Yamaha RD350 etc but very few people had them, instead we had Yamaha DT250's and Honda XL's , the grand daddies of the Tracer 9 and Transalp :) I think you are correct in your analysis, it will be an enthusiasts thing.
@@robbie2awesome many thanks for your detailed comment. I came up through a similar route, superdreams, LC/YPVS, Z’s, GPZ’s, ZXR/GSXR, T/CAT etc etc. Let’s see what happens over the next few years but I think in a couple of years, the choices will be very limited if not effectively non existent. Who knows, I (hopefully) may be proven wrong and the new Ducati will kick off a competition between the manufacturers again.
In cars there's a similar trend. Traditional sports cars are no longer produced. It's all high power SUVs and crossovers now. In bikes there's also a sharp distinction between traditional hard core analogue bikes, such as the GSX-R750 offering raw riders experience, and modern digital bikes with all kinds of rider's aids, such as the Panigale V4S. Contrary to sports cars and despite modern rider's aids, the performance of a sports bike is mainly dependent on rider skills. Of course, one bike can be better than the other. Modern designs are not always progress. Tests with riders switching bikes on the same track have shown a 15 year old GSX-R750 to be consistently faster than a modern day Panigale V4S. 😎
@@peterdejong5456 fantastic comment, really appreciated. Completely agree with the skillset aspect. I’ve a fair bit of track experience and seen such things well illustrated. One example particularity stands out at Brands Hatch a few years ago, a guy with some considerable skills on an XJ900 (of all things…) was dominating the fast group, which had the usual selection of Sportsbikes in, but the riders couldn’t use it. XJ900 rider had a few well chosen mods, good tyres, set up well meant he could really maximise it. Bikes have moved on so much, that they’ve effectively eclipsed the riders now.
@@headrace4863 Absolutely! Very few riders would be able to use the massive amount of power modern leader bikes have, and which can never be safely used on the streets as you rightly pointed out. That's why these rider aids are absolutely necessary to limit accidents. However, talented and experienced riders are often hampered by these aids. They would like to have a more direct link to their machine to get the most out of it. Unfortunately for them very few designs allow the aids to be completely disabled. Also environmental restrictions on modern bikes hamper engine performance and ride experience. That's why the traditional hard core analogue sports bike is becoming increasingly popular among enthousiasts. Better pick a low milage one up before they have all gone or have become too expensive.
i recently sold my s1krr ,apart from reliability issues i was much happier on my old gsxr1000k2 ,they are nice to look at but theres too much tech on them ,that cbr looks nice i hope we havent seen the last of them but im aware they are pulling the r1 from the uk market
@@headrace4863 i bought it at a high mileage 38k to be fair but it was a tidy bike but it seemed to have a strange misfire ,i changed plugs ,did clearances and changed coils but never did a comp test ,i think i was scared to find serious probs so ilet it go ,obviously if you get a good one they are very fast but im happy to stick to analogue superbikes from here on in ,as an aside i read somewhere that you could buy a first generation s1000rr without any bells and whistles ....now that would be something......
@@MrStr8den arrow MotoGP system, it divides into 4-2 where the cat would usually reside, then into the separate end-cans, one under the tail as usual and one to the side. One of those things that’s very divisive on styling. The whole system weighs next to nothing and sounds just amazing, styling is subjective.
No they’re coming back, I’m 56 and fell for the adventure crap but now I’m back on my k5 Gsxr 1000 and it’s why l got into motorcycling!!!, going through the Monmouth tunnels last weekend I slowed right down give it a handful in first to let everyone else hear that yoshimura trc!!!😂, I might get old but that won’t 😍 love blowing past millennials on their sit up and beg crap😂 guys keep you weight down, get rid of your guts that’s enveloping the tank then get a sports bike with no rider aids, you don’t need them , it’s utter wankery🤷
Why would you want one they suck number one uncomfortable as hell number 2 pain in the ass to work on you have to take the stupid fairing off number 3 no power down low the powers meant for top speed who cares.
@@richardcerritelli9657 …same reason people buy Ferrari’s, Lamborghini or whichever sports car is your preference. The experience, the ownership and design aspects are a big part of it as well. Great on track as well. Not for everyone I guess. People spend millions on a painting, which could be argued is useless, by some
Yeah i think the heart n soul has gone from sports bikes....too many electronic settings that's too distracting for me... lot of people switching to the adventure bike...i love all sorts of bikes but the old sports bikes are my favs....the sound, the appearance of them and the ride itself... i have an 06 RR-6. Can be seen in my profile picture, i can spend 4 to 5 hours in the saddle on any given day, i use it as a tourer, cos its my type a bike.. im almost 47, 6ft 4 and near 18 stone, bike feels amazing compared to the other 2014 600rr i have..... definitely agree that they are not suitable to the roads we have, plus my skill levels mean this bike is way more than i need....but i still needed it......its a visual thing aswell as an audible thing, plus i love the smelll of the exhaust fumes......
.safe travels pal...have fun...From Tommy in Ireland 🇮🇪
@@TommyIrl77 very much appreciated. Some great riding over in the Emerald Isle… enjoy!
The guys with money want comfort, right? They just want to cruise the lanes where they live or go to Europe on tour, a sports bike is not optimal for that kind of thing. Young guys cannot afford the top end sports bikes so they ride all the older six hundreds, YZF600R, ZZR's etc I am slightly older than you, when i was 15 I had a Honda 250 Superdream, was great, the GPZ was a sports bike, the Yamaha RD350 etc but very few people had them, instead we had Yamaha DT250's and Honda XL's , the grand daddies of the Tracer 9 and Transalp :) I think you are correct in your analysis, it will be an enthusiasts thing.
@@robbie2awesome many thanks for your detailed comment. I came up through a similar route, superdreams, LC/YPVS, Z’s, GPZ’s, ZXR/GSXR, T/CAT etc etc. Let’s see what happens over the next few years but I think in a couple of years, the choices will be very limited if not effectively non existent. Who knows, I (hopefully) may be proven wrong and the new Ducati will kick off a competition between the manufacturers again.
In cars there's a similar trend. Traditional sports cars are no longer produced. It's all high power SUVs and crossovers now. In bikes there's also a sharp distinction between traditional hard core analogue bikes, such as the GSX-R750 offering raw riders experience, and modern digital bikes with all kinds of rider's aids, such as the Panigale V4S.
Contrary to sports cars and despite modern rider's aids, the performance of a sports bike is mainly dependent on rider skills. Of course, one bike can be better than the other. Modern designs are not always progress. Tests with riders switching bikes on the same track have shown a 15 year old GSX-R750 to be consistently faster than a modern day Panigale V4S. 😎
@@peterdejong5456 fantastic comment, really appreciated. Completely agree with the skillset aspect. I’ve a fair bit of track experience and seen such things well illustrated. One example particularity stands out at Brands Hatch a few years ago, a guy with some considerable skills on an XJ900 (of all things…) was dominating the fast group, which had the usual selection of Sportsbikes in, but the riders couldn’t use it. XJ900 rider had a few well chosen mods, good tyres, set up well meant he could really maximise it. Bikes have moved on so much, that they’ve effectively eclipsed the riders now.
@@headrace4863
Absolutely! Very few riders would be able to use the massive amount of power modern leader bikes have, and which can never be safely used on the streets as you rightly pointed out. That's why these rider aids are absolutely necessary to limit accidents.
However, talented and experienced riders are often hampered by these aids. They would like to have a more direct link to their machine to get the most out of it. Unfortunately for them very few designs allow the aids to be completely disabled. Also environmental restrictions on modern bikes hamper engine performance and ride experience.
That's why the traditional hard core analogue sports bike is becoming increasingly popular among enthousiasts. Better pick a low milage one up before they have all gone or have become too expensive.
i recently sold my s1krr ,apart from reliability issues i was much happier on my old gsxr1000k2 ,they are nice to look at but theres too much tech on them ,that cbr looks nice i hope we havent seen the last of them but im aware they are pulling the r1 from the uk market
@@vincemarshall8550 what issues did you have with your S1KRR? I’ve got half an eye open for a gen1 to add to my collection.
@@headrace4863 i bought it at a high mileage 38k to be fair but it was a tidy bike but it seemed to have a strange misfire ,i changed plugs ,did clearances and changed coils but never did a comp test ,i think i was scared to find serious probs so ilet it go ,obviously if you get a good one they are very fast but im happy to stick to analogue superbikes from here on in ,as an aside i read somewhere that you could buy a first generation s1000rr without any bells and whistles ....now that would be something......
Why has the cbr got two end cans... it's just not right!
@@MrStr8den arrow MotoGP system, it divides into 4-2 where the cat would usually reside, then into the separate end-cans, one under the tail as usual and one to the side. One of those things that’s very divisive on styling. The whole system weighs next to nothing and sounds just amazing, styling is subjective.
No they’re coming back, I’m 56 and fell for the adventure crap but now I’m back on my k5 Gsxr 1000 and it’s why l got into motorcycling!!!, going through the Monmouth tunnels last weekend I slowed right down give it a handful in first to let everyone else hear that yoshimura trc!!!😂, I might get old but that won’t 😍 love blowing past millennials on their sit up and beg crap😂 guys keep you weight down, get rid of your guts that’s enveloping the tank then get a sports bike with no rider aids, you don’t need them , it’s utter wankery🤷
@@julianmorris9951 interesting… great choice in the K5. Enjoy.
@@headrace4863 This K5 gets the 'fav' medal from the older Gixer reviews.
bikes peaked around 2005 - get a ducati 1098S whilst you still can!
@@GaryWerbisky good call. That, and the much underrated 848 for £12k for both.. sign me up. 👍👍
@@headrace4863still got my 04 R6 mint condition
Why would you want one they suck number one uncomfortable as hell number 2 pain in the ass to work on you have to take the stupid fairing off number 3 no power down low the powers meant for top speed who cares.
@@richardcerritelli9657 …same reason people buy Ferrari’s, Lamborghini or whichever sports car is your preference. The experience, the ownership and design aspects are a big part of it as well. Great on track as well. Not for everyone I guess. People spend millions on a painting, which could be argued is useless, by some