SPOILERS: Parents who raised him wanted a baby and bought him from a struggling young mom, detectives saw her and realized she wasn’t his mother and she was an addict, She confessed she stole him from her dealer for his safety, It was THEN revealed that dealer broke into his parole officer’s home, killed the parole officer’s wife, paralyzed him and stole his baby. The Parole Officer is the father
Spoiler summary He realized that he's not related to his parents, and it seems that adoption had not been discussed. He believes that he has the same scar as a missing child. Lead investigates the original missing baby case to discover that the mom had accidentally drowned the kid, and hid it from the dad. Original guy's case is still investigated. Not related. Not legally adopted. He was bought from an addicted teen. He didn't belong to the teen either. She had stolen the baby from her dealer for its safety. It wasn't the dealer's baby. He had shot his parole officer and the guy's wife. The wife died. The parole officer survived but ended up paralyzed and in a wheelchair. The dealer had taken the baby from the parole officer. Imagine seeing a scar in a missing child photo and clearing four criminal cases and finding your remaining biological parent?
Holy Shit ,that's awesome story line writing ,I've never watched the show but I always wanted to watch it ,does it come on somewhere now ,I know it's cancelled but are they on somewhere that you know off ??
@@Lasvicusme too. My family spent the last 400 years hopping borders, seizing thrones, and fighting in every war they could, but this is just wild. Do you know if it's based on true events?
Parents who raised him wanted a baby and bought him from a struggling young mom, detectives saw her and realized she wasn’t his mother and she was an addict, She confessed she stole him from her dealer for his safety, It was THEN revealed that dealer broke into his parole officer’s home, killed the parole officer’s wife, paralyzed him and stole his baby. The Parole Officer is the father
I'll try making it easier. Kid was right that they weren't his parents. He was wrong on which kid he was though. He thought he was a kid who had been publicized about the disappearance (the dead kid). Instead the cops find out the "parents" bought him from a drug addict. The kid was a cops baby, but the drug addicts dealer kidnapped him after killing his mom and incapacitating the cop dad. The addict found him at the dealers house and took him with her "to give the kid a better chance at life." Shortly thereafter she sold him to the "parents."
People absolutely remember minor details during an event of trauma. That's what makes the memories so painful. Remembering little details that are forever burned into your brain.
They did that to agitate and make her defensive. Both states tend to have indicators when you're being honest or lieing and make it easier to mess up the story you want people to believe
They absolutely do. Or sometimes they block out what happened entirely. I remember everything that happened the day my ex tried strangling me to death last year. But I don't remember most of the almost 7 years we were together because it was traumatic psychological, physical, verbal, emotional, and sometimes sexual abuse throughout
@IMQ6612 anyone absolutely would when police who might be looking for your long lost son come in looking for a DNA test to prove he's their son. It wasn't about the details, it was about the "psychological argument" that is shoddy and clearly not accurate
Are you kidding me? I could remember details from maybe being in my bassinet at six months old. Minor details… it doesn’t mean that I’m lying… it just means that I have a hyperactivity disorder that causes me to fixate on things and dedicate them to memory even though they were unimportant… According to my parents, my memory was 100% accurate… I remember sucking on the thrill of my little white nightgown I remember the cherry wood bassinet that they put me in… the dark frame of the window that they used to put me in front of it was snowing… watching the snowfall down outside the window and hearing the crackling of the burning fireplace… I remember my mom coming over… picking me up and place in my head in the crook of her arm… then walking over to grandpa’s chair where she sat on the armrest, still talking to him while she cradled and rocked me… My parents were expanded by the details that I remember… I remember sucking on my two fingers rather than my thumb my toddlerhood… I remember taking my first steps… handover hand on the coffee table(the one I currently in my living room right now) And then I took my first three steps into my father‘s arms… The reason why I remember all these details is not because I’m lying… but they were the excruciatingly few good memories I have of my family… the rest of the time it was screaming and arguing and blaming me for why they didn’t have money… So you’re assumption, that people who are lying will remember my new details… is completely off the mark… 😅
Small details would be remembered on a day of a traumatic event, like losing a child. It’s why so many people can remember exactly what they were doing when 9/11 happened.
@@IzzyKawaiichi I do, it was sunny when the sun did rise. When the towers were hit it was still before dawn on when we lived on the west coast. Sky was clear that day
Yeah I didn't agree with that statement at all. 9/11 I was 15 in 2nd period English with Mrs. Mardis and told to turn on the TV by the Principal over the intercom. It was also sunny that morning. I remember all the small things that occurred throughout my life like that and I'm sure a lot of people do as well. It's not exactly fair to accuse someone of lying just because they have the ability to remember certain things like that whether it's shown in studies to mean the opposite or not in my opinion. Obviously, that's not the case in this particular situation, but still.😅
That was plain false... It depends on the individual. Personally, I remember MOSTLY the small details and just general memories of the grand theme. Also, most people do remember small details that relate to the memory itself, that's just how memory works...
That's not how that works though. Small details kill your case or win it. Abraham Lincoln once won a case by proving the witness testimony wasn't reliable all because the dude claimed it was a full moon and the Almanac showed it wasn't. If she was like "There was overcast that night, it rained all day and the sky was gloomy. I'll never forget how the fog was so weird" Vs "Oh yeah, it was overcast" That would be more convincing
@@MostaismI remember small details of the day when my son died. Sometimes the trauma of things makes everything stand out. But you're putting stock into a tv series that had this character pull the bs "look at his eyes, he's lying."
@umokwhy2830 no. I'm putting stock in the psychology professor who taught me how to spot a liar. In the police interrogator who told me how they spot a liar. In the experts who do this for a living. You're basing it on what YOU experience, as though you're the benchmark for everyone.
Nah bro the show got it right… you really aren’t gonna remember something that tiny so for someone to be so sure it shows they are lying… cause the guy could of asked if it was sunny and she would of said “yh i think so, yh most definitely”….. if you wanna learn how to read people there’s a good book called “read people like a book”
😂😂😂 I remember tons of tiny details for years and years, but will forget things other people generally retain. I'm in my 50s, and can still remember many details about a vacation my family took the summer before I turned 2. I remember certain emotions, textures, sights, sounds, smells, and meals. It wasn't until just a couple years ago that I realized 1/2 of those memories were from that trip. I found a box of slides from the trip, and discussed them with my brother, who did remember them. The things I remember aren't the details my family reminisced about over the years.
@@AndieMarie-d6h I remember being at my aunt and uncle's when I was 12 months old. It was the afternoon, we were in the shade, my aunt asked me if I wanted something to drink. I followed her into their sandstone cottage, which they moved out of when I was 3 years old. My aunt went to the kitchen sink and I walked a straight line from the door right under the kitchen table to her. 😊
yes, people who suffer trauma can recall minute details, it depends on how that person processes memory. if its like a lot of people's 9/11 memory, you recall every detail of that day long term because the event made it a core memory
I was a kid, specifically 2, I don't remember 9/11 my first memory was getting up out if my bunk bed, in the apartment my parents rented, I saw the man I call dad on the toilet and went to use the kiddy toilet next to him, I then I saw the woman I call mom walk past the doors that lined the hallway, I don't remember anything after that except my mom dropping me off at my nan's and I watched TV, my Nan then made me grilled cheese and I spent the day in front of the TV, I can't recall any past that point or before that day I don't even know when this was so I can't say if it was before or after 9/11
I don’t agree that someone telling small details _always_ implies they’re lying. As an abused child I could recall smells, sights and sounds well because I would escape reality by focusing on these things around me. They were also attached to those memories; for instance, if I smell beer all these years later I instantly become afraid, anxious and want to escape. As an adult I am still extremely observant. However, I was involved in a homicide recently and all the small details I knew I knew, I couldn’t remember immediately after what happened. It took me a few weeks for certain things to come back to me, and they came back to me as I would hear certain things, etc. as these triggered my memory. I’ll also add, it’s a common theme with liars that they tell small details, but it isn’t that fact alone that points to their deceit. They repeatedly tell *false* details, or avoid questions or topics by going into irrelevant details as a means to distract, or they recount very detailed information for some moments but not others. It’s a mix of behaviors that point to deception, not just one.
HawthorneVampire (top comment) already explained it perfectly, but for added context: The mother in this clip accidentally drowned the bay and hid the body: the husband never knew, as she was afraid of his reaction. So 'James' is dead. 😅 The kid was actually the son of a porole officer who was responsible for an offender going back to prison and missing his daughter's death/funeral. As revenge, the perp killed the parole officer's wife and stole the kid, who ended up being sold to the couple. At the end, the kid saw his real father, who was in a wheelchair from the attack, and was disappointed, thus not knowing how to feel as he doesn't really belong to his adopted parents or his real father. But the three parties talk, and showed signs of possible conciliation at the end kf the episode.
That's not what happened....there was no possibility of reconciliation. Everyone from the adopted parents, to the original father, to the kid himself stated on screen that they had "already moved on with their lives". The kid was over 18, the adopted parents were already estranged from him, and the original father wanted nothing to do with the situation. Finding James' killer was the only plot point in the episode.
Man I used to love this show as a kid. And before y’all talk about what I was watching as a child I still watch cartoons and anime as well my taste in shows was all over the place and still is. 😅
I can tell you what was on the stove when my Dad beat the shit out of me 14 years ago for leaving the baby gate unlocked (for our dog not a baby). He fell over the thing striding over it. Mashed potatoes bottom left hob. Broccoli on the top right. We were both wearing jackets because we couldn't afford heating that month. I remember the "Squeak" of the polyester on his waterproof coat as he was winding up punches on me. Someone can be talking to me about the weather, some action they got with a girl the other night, and if I let my mind wander, I'll still end up right back there like it was happening all over again. Sometimes the smell of a certain air freshener reminds me about huge fights my parents got into when I was 9-10 years old, because its what the room smelled like at the time. I'm pushing 30 now and just typing this out I can smell and could pick out the worst offending smell at a store right now.
Ok so tell me what the weather was that day and what color your shoe laces were? You recall those details because in the moment it's what stuck with you not because you can magically recall every detail of that day.
Tide detergent. I hid my face in the armful of clean laundry in 4th grade when my "Mother" told me she regretted adopting as a baby. I should have died with my birth mother during delivery. See, back in the 70s-80s we didn't have Autism or ADHD , WE WERE JUST BAD KIDS!!!
"When people tell the truth they tend to not remember small details." Me with both Autism and a photographic memory can remember a leaf on my dad's arm when I was 6 and he and his freind decided to swim across the pond at mile square park. It was a semi cloudy day.
The attention to detail thing is BS, i can remember a lot of "insignificant" details for a lot of occasions, starting at a very young age. It doesn't matter that i can remember the exact path we took, who was with us and how dark it was, when the neighbours daughter took me trick or treating for the first time when i was 2 1/2, but i do.
"When people are telling the truth, they don't feel the need to recall small details from several years ago" Me, an autistic person who gets detail-oriented out of fear of being misinterpreted or accused of lying: 😳
“When people are telling the truth, they don’t feel the need to remember small details”?! That was such a dumb thing to say in an attempt to sound intelligent. People remember small details MORE during traumatic experiences. I remember what people were wearing in traumatic memories. And btw, he asked her the question about whether it was overcast or not! So that’s why she “felt the need” to remember small details. Who wrote that garbage? Then, what fool ok’d it?
Hell people often recall small details while forgetting big ones, when the event is traumatizing. That was such a stupid addition. Especially since she didn't volunteer the small detail information - he asked her specifically to recall the small detail and she thought about it for a minute. Which is normal behavior.
Meanwhile NDs try to give every detail possible because theyre so used to being called liars 🙃 Also some with PTSD can remember specific details. Those details can even become triggers
People telling the truth absolutely DO sometimes feel the need to recall small details. Thanks for spreading misinformation, TV show. [Edit] Just found out this is the show _Lie to Me._ They were usually _much_ better accuracy than this.
In an interview with the person they brought on the show to help with the science side of things, he mentioned they would often ignore his input in favor of the narrative they wanted the episode to have. That's probably why
That's highly inaccurate. Small details often stick out clearly years after traumatic events. The Song on the radio, the weather. Smells stuff like that
The craziest crash I was in, I remember that my windows were down, it was a nice feeling late October day, and Killer Queen was blasting on the radio. It was 9 years ago.
Also, don't they use the memories of a traumatic event as exposure therapy for PTSD, where they start by asking you to remember precisely the small details?
This show is so ridiculous but in a fun way. Dr Lightman (Tim Roths character) isn't a detective or any kind of law enforcement he's just a scientist. Imagine if Neil Degrasse Tyson just showed up one day to grill you about a crime that happened decades ago 🤣🤣🤣
bad info. people replay trauma over and over, she would absolutely remember small details. Not necessarily EVERY detail. There would be things they wouldn't recall, but to say that the impact of trauma equals inability to recall minor details is a load of horseshit.
@@safiremorningstar Google "Lie to Me" And hit the button that says "watch show" it changes all the time but, that will tell you how you can watch it at that time.
I never missed an episode of Lie to Me. I bought the dvds when it was cancelled. It was on regular cable tv. I think some making comments seen the reruns on the pay services as its an older show.
14 years later my friends mom still remembers the day time and screeching tires that occured when her daughter was taken from the front lawn right in front of her but doesn't remember what she had been wearing even though she dressed her an hour before she was taken the man was arrested but her body was never found
Some people seem to be missing the point. It's not about detecting the lie by using recall of small details as an indicator. It's about applying pressure on the couple and digging in with accusations to see if one of them breaks. It's a legit interrogation technique and if you're wrong about the accusation, it will reflect in the response (like with the husband character). Patrick Jane in Mentalist executed this many a time at the risk of pissing off some innocent people.
I mean, I remember the weather the day we took my son home from the hospital, it was an unusually beautiful, warm, sunny day for April, but it was still windy. The night I went in, there was a chill and it was drizzling outside.
I remember how many saltines I ate on the way tothe hospiralto deliver my son, the sunrise, the exact parking spot we stopped at so I could throw up the crackers...
I can definitely remember small details from the past lol. To be fair most of my friends can’t but sometimes when I talk they will suddenly by reminded.
All you ppl going on about the details: LISTEN to what was said! "Innocent ppl aren't going to bother to try and remember insignificant details" In other words, if you've forgotten it, and you're innocent, you're not going to bother trying to remember it. But if you do remember, you do.
That's so stupid. He asked a pointed question which would make anyone try to remember that specific detail. Plus it was a traumatic thing which you either tend to remember vividly, or repress. Funny thing is that I know people who spout off this nonsense in real life, because they believe this show is true
My daughter can recall events going back 23 years, she is 25 and has a delayed disability but omg she can recall places, if it was day or night what music was playing and who was there.
What? That makes zero sense. 1. You likely would remember things like the weather on a highly traumatic day. But you also might not. 2. He asked her to recall a small detail, she felt the need to recall it because they asked her to. Da fuq is this greys anatomy? Lol
@zaneplatt3533 he asked her a specific question. She didn't volunteer it. If heasked "what do you remember about that day?" And she started talking about the weather, that would be a marker of suspicion. Even then one-offs aren't enough. You need to group these behaviors in threes to make the inference even relatively reasonavle.
@@user-wq6hr2ei2d "I think it was overcast" she said "It definitely was" she said. Either, you fully remember the traumatic event. So it should be "yes it was" or you so not and say "can't recall". Flipping from "I think" to "It definitely was" means she was lying about something. Maybe the weather, maybe something else. Hence why they pressured her and she outed herself.
@ODDnanref again, singular instances are not enough for it to be a reasonable inference. You need these behaviors grouped. Even then I still disagree that this even qualifies as a single one.
@@user-wq6hr2ei2d True, but the husband certainly had no issue expressing his uncertainty. Never seen the show so no idea if they also picked up on something else. Shorts being short and all
he is an expert in tracking deception. basically he started small to see how. much she was lying cause he already caught her lie in the initial conversation
@@immapotato1 except he was the one who brought up that detail about the weather. That's called leading the witness. If he wanted to catch her in a lie, he should have asked her what the weather was. Asking if the day was overcast implies to her that you think the day was overcast because it builds a rapport, and that isn't a clean way to catch someone in a lie
"When people are telling the truth, they don't feel the need to...blah blah". Gee, when I try to recall something from the past, the small details come blurting out.
False. I remember the exact spot. I hit the pavement in front of my house where I lost my front tooth from wrecking my bike. I remember the t shirt I was wearing on september 11. I remember the song on the radio when we flipped the truck. I remember it was raining the day my mother died. You remember the smallest details on the worst days of your life.
The lady said they don't feel the need to recall small details they didn't say she didn't say you don't remember...... don't ' feel the need' is totally different from you don't or they 'don't remember' what's wrong with this country today people hear what they want to hear!!!!!!!! Mr.Q Southside Jamaica Queens
as a psychologist, the "minor details" part is absolute hogwash, minor details can be remembered and even potentially misrmemebered through misinformation or source confusion, or it could have a heightened level of confidence to the memory from it being a flashbulb memory, the question itself could have sparked the memory or created it retroactively
People do bring up small details when recalling events when telling the truth… Small details are key memories sometimes to people due to hyperfixation about small weird things, it’s not an immediate lie detector…
"When people are telling the truth they don't feel the need to recall small details." Not always true! I remember small details all the time and if someone asks for details I give it to them no matter the context. I remember where a family member put something days later when nobody else could find it. I'm not doing it on purpose that's just the way my brain does it. At my job they love it because I can remember where I saw something or where someone last had something without even trying. Honestly it's annoying. Imagine remembering every detail, but not even knowing it until someone asks you a question? I was a tour guide for a tiny bit and the guy training me asked me questions and I was able to quote word for word what I was taught, but having to remember it on my own without prompts my mind was just blank. I had to train myself to use looking at the tour locations as the prompts to recall things. Having that kind of memory makes certain questions impossible to answer in interviews. "Tell me about yourself." My whole life starts playing in my mind. "Tell me about x-job." Narrow it down! I hate open things like that because then I have to sift through all my memories about that to find things that are relevant. Do you have any idea how infuriating that is?
Parents who raised him wanted a baby and bought him from a struggling young mom, detectives saw her and realized she wasn’t his mother and she was an addict, She confessed she stole him from her dealer for his safety, It was THEN revealed that dealer broke into his parole officer’s home, killed the parole officer’s wife, paralyzed him and stole his baby. The Parole Officer is the father
hmmm...i can remember that it was overcast the day i brought my son home from the hospital when he was born 21 years ago. so im not too sure about that one...
I don't think we need the paragraph guy for this one... She killed her real son "by accident" and I'm pretty sure she then tried to cover it up.. By kidnapping another kid to replace them..
Memories are extremely, extremely unreliable. Some of your most certain memories are not accurate. I'm not 100% sure about the whole "small details" thing described here, but I can say with certainty that whatever a person believes to be true, *especially* during a state of distress, are very likely to be inaccurate. It's why witness statements in criminology are not massively valuable (especially if witnesses have discussed it with anyone else).
He helped solved 2-3 cases by wanting to find his real parents.
SPOILERS:
Parents who raised him wanted a baby and bought him from a struggling young mom,
detectives saw her and realized she wasn’t his mother and she was an addict,
She confessed she stole him from her dealer for his safety,
It was THEN revealed that dealer broke into his parole officer’s home, killed the parole officer’s wife, paralyzed him and stole his baby.
The Parole Officer is the father
What the actual f%ck?
Is this really what happened? Holy convoluted
Holy fucking shit, that's amazing 😂
Bruh and I thought my shit was complicated
The guy in the video had two minutes to explain. Not you
Spoiler summary
He realized that he's not related to his parents, and it seems that adoption had not been discussed. He believes that he has the same scar as a missing child. Lead investigates the original missing baby case to discover that the mom had accidentally drowned the kid, and hid it from the dad.
Original guy's case is still investigated. Not related. Not legally adopted. He was bought from an addicted teen. He didn't belong to the teen either. She had stolen the baby from her dealer for its safety. It wasn't the dealer's baby. He had shot his parole officer and the guy's wife. The wife died. The parole officer survived but ended up paralyzed and in a wheelchair. The dealer had taken the baby from the parole officer.
Imagine seeing a scar in a missing child photo and clearing four criminal cases and finding your remaining biological parent?
That is some good writing there
Holy Shit ,that's awesome story line writing ,I've never watched the show but I always wanted to watch it ,does it come on somewhere now ,I know it's cancelled but are they on somewhere that you know off ??
Jesus Christ. Almost makes my family's shit feel normal.
@@Lasvicusme too. My family spent the last 400 years hopping borders, seizing thrones, and fighting in every war they could, but this is just wild. Do you know if it's based on true events?
so his biological parent is the police officer
This tv show is called “lie to me” & it was amazing. Still sad that it got canceled 😭
Tx u
Is it on Netflix please abd thank you
Thank you
It was absolutely fantastic!
So was _In Plain Sight_ starring Mary McCormick, and also _Life_ starring Damian Lewis.
It was so edgy but fun. Expect the Korean War Arc. That was meh.
If James Knox is dead, who’s the teenager? PARAGRAPH GUY!!!
Maybe she thought he died?!?!?!?!
Parents who raised him wanted a baby and bought him from a struggling young mom,
detectives saw her and realized she wasn’t his mother and she was an addict,
She confessed she stole him from her dealer for his safety,
It was THEN revealed that dealer broke into his parole officer’s home, killed the parole officer’s wife, paralyzed him and stole his baby.
The Parole Officer is the father
@@HawthorneVampirewhat in the soap opera...
@@HawthorneVampire that was so convoluted I couldn’t follow it
I'll try making it easier. Kid was right that they weren't his parents. He was wrong on which kid he was though. He thought he was a kid who had been publicized about the disappearance (the dead kid).
Instead the cops find out the "parents" bought him from a drug addict. The kid was a cops baby, but the drug addicts dealer kidnapped him after killing his mom and incapacitating the cop dad. The addict found him at the dealers house and took him with her "to give the kid a better chance at life." Shortly thereafter she sold him to the "parents."
People absolutely remember minor details during an event of trauma. That's what makes the memories so painful. Remembering little details that are forever burned into your brain.
They did that to agitate and make her defensive. Both states tend to have indicators when you're being honest or lieing and make it easier to mess up the story you want people to believe
They absolutely do. Or sometimes they block out what happened entirely. I remember everything that happened the day my ex tried strangling me to death last year. But I don't remember most of the almost 7 years we were together because it was traumatic psychological, physical, verbal, emotional, and sometimes sexual abuse throughout
They didn't say you couldn't remember little details,,they don't feel the need to recall little details....Mr.Q Southside Jamaica Queens
@IMQ6612 anyone absolutely would when police who might be looking for your long lost son come in looking for a DNA test to prove he's their son. It wasn't about the details, it was about the "psychological argument" that is shoddy and clearly not accurate
Most painful trauma will be blocked by our brain.
Are you kidding me? I could remember details from maybe being in my bassinet at six months old. Minor details… it doesn’t mean that I’m lying… it just means that I have a hyperactivity disorder that causes me to fixate on things and dedicate them to memory even though they were unimportant…
According to my parents, my memory was 100% accurate… I remember sucking on the thrill of my little white nightgown I remember the cherry wood bassinet that they put me in… the dark frame of the window that they used to put me in front of it was snowing… watching the snowfall down outside the window and hearing the crackling of the burning fireplace… I remember my mom coming over… picking me up and place in my head in the crook of her arm… then walking over to grandpa’s chair where she sat on the armrest, still talking to him while she cradled and rocked me…
My parents were expanded by the details that I remember… I remember sucking on my two fingers rather than my thumb my toddlerhood… I remember taking my first steps… handover hand on the coffee table(the one I currently in my living room right now) And then I took my first three steps into my father‘s arms…
The reason why I remember all these details is not because I’m lying… but they were the excruciatingly few good memories I have of my family… the rest of the time it was screaming and arguing and blaming me for why they didn’t have money…
So you’re assumption, that people who are lying will remember my new details… is completely off the mark… 😅
Small details would be remembered on a day of a traumatic event, like losing a child. It’s why so many people can remember exactly what they were doing when 9/11 happened.
True, but I don't remember what the weather was.
@@IzzyKawaiichi I do, it was sunny when the sun did rise. When the towers were hit it was still before dawn on when we lived on the west coast. Sky was clear that day
Why yes...yes I do. Good point.
Yeah I didn't agree with that statement at all. 9/11 I was 15 in 2nd period English with Mrs. Mardis and told to turn on the TV by the Principal over the intercom. It was also sunny that morning. I remember all the small things that occurred throughout my life like that and I'm sure a lot of people do as well. It's not exactly fair to accuse someone of lying just because they have the ability to remember certain things like that whether it's shown in studies to mean the opposite or not in my opinion. Obviously, that's not the case in this particular situation, but still.😅
@@IzzyKawaiichiclear and sunny when I watched that plane hit the tower live on TV. Think again.
I mean she probably replayed that day a million times in her head I imagine she’d remember the weather.
That was plain false... It depends on the individual.
Personally, I remember MOSTLY the small details and just general memories of the grand theme.
Also, most people do remember small details that relate to the memory itself, that's just how memory works...
As an Autistic person, I almost exclusively remember the small details. It's the more general information that trips me up.
Same.
Small details thing is very far from the truth. Sometimes its the one thing needed to make your case that you are being truthful.
That's not how that works though.
Small details kill your case or win it. Abraham Lincoln once won a case by proving the witness testimony wasn't reliable all because the dude claimed it was a full moon and the Almanac showed it wasn't.
If she was like "There was overcast that night, it rained all day and the sky was gloomy. I'll never forget how the fog was so weird"
Vs
"Oh yeah, it was overcast"
That would be more convincing
Hey, of course you'd know better than the people who interrogate people for a living
@@MostaismI remember small details of the day when my son died. Sometimes the trauma of things makes everything stand out.
But you're putting stock into a tv series that had this character pull the bs "look at his eyes, he's lying."
@umokwhy2830 no. I'm putting stock in the psychology professor who taught me how to spot a liar. In the police interrogator who told me how they spot a liar. In the experts who do this for a living. You're basing it on what YOU experience, as though you're the benchmark for everyone.
Nah bro the show got it right… you really aren’t gonna remember something that tiny so for someone to be so sure it shows they are lying… cause the guy could of asked if it was sunny and she would of said “yh i think so, yh most definitely”….. if you wanna learn how to read people there’s a good book called “read people like a book”
😂😂😂 I remember tons of tiny details for years and years, but will forget things other people generally retain. I'm in my 50s, and can still remember many details about a vacation my family took the summer before I turned 2. I remember certain emotions, textures, sights, sounds, smells, and meals. It wasn't until just a couple years ago that I realized 1/2 of those memories were from that trip. I found a box of slides from the trip, and discussed them with my brother, who did remember them. The things I remember aren't the details my family reminisced about over the years.
@@AndieMarie-d6h I remember being at my aunt and uncle's when I was 12 months old. It was the afternoon, we were in the shade, my aunt asked me if I wanted something to drink. I followed her into their sandstone cottage, which they moved out of when I was 3 years old. My aunt went to the kitchen sink and I walked a straight line from the door right under the kitchen table to her. 😊
yes, people who suffer trauma can recall minute details, it depends on how that person processes memory. if its like a lot of people's 9/11 memory, you recall every detail of that day long term because the event made it a core memory
She suffered no trauma. She inflicted one. She is lying.
I was a kid, specifically 2, I don't remember 9/11 my first memory was getting up out if my bunk bed, in the apartment my parents rented, I saw the man I call dad on the toilet and went to use the kiddy toilet next to him, I then I saw the woman I call mom walk past the doors that lined the hallway, I don't remember anything after that except my mom dropping me off at my nan's and I watched TV, my Nan then made me grilled cheese and I spent the day in front of the TV, I can't recall any past that point or before that day I don't even know when this was so I can't say if it was before or after 9/11
that is complete bs
You will remember random details, not exact relevant details like a dream.
@shrikant146 i recall the exact moment i found out when the towers were hit and what i was doing that hour now 23 years later
I don’t agree that someone telling small details _always_ implies they’re lying. As an abused child I could recall smells, sights and sounds well because I would escape reality by focusing on these things around me. They were also attached to those memories; for instance, if I smell beer all these years later I instantly become afraid, anxious and want to escape. As an adult I am still extremely observant. However, I was involved in a homicide recently and all the small details I knew I knew, I couldn’t remember immediately after what happened. It took me a few weeks for certain things to come back to me, and they came back to me as I would hear certain things, etc. as these triggered my memory. I’ll also add, it’s a common theme with liars that they tell small details, but it isn’t that fact alone that points to their deceit. They repeatedly tell *false* details, or avoid questions or topics by going into irrelevant details as a means to distract, or they recount very detailed information for some moments but not others. It’s a mix of behaviors that point to deception, not just one.
HawthorneVampire (top comment) already explained it perfectly, but for added context:
The mother in this clip accidentally drowned the bay and hid the body: the husband never knew, as she was afraid of his reaction. So 'James' is dead. 😅
The kid was actually the son of a porole officer who was responsible for an offender going back to prison and missing his daughter's death/funeral. As revenge, the perp killed the parole officer's wife and stole the kid, who ended up being sold to the couple.
At the end, the kid saw his real father, who was in a wheelchair from the attack, and was disappointed, thus not knowing how to feel as he doesn't really belong to his adopted parents or his real father. But the three parties talk, and showed signs of possible conciliation at the end kf the episode.
Thank you. I didn't really get it from Vampire's comment.
That's not what happened....there was no possibility of reconciliation. Everyone from the adopted parents, to the original father, to the kid himself stated on screen that they had "already moved on with their lives". The kid was over 18, the adopted parents were already estranged from him, and the original father wanted nothing to do with the situation. Finding James' killer was the only plot point in the episode.
You did a much better job of explaining what's going on.
Neither of y’all outing the movie or show name bruh lmao
@@Chubby1G_TV "lie to me", it's in the hashtag
Wow, that was a twist I didn't expect.
Good to read the context in the comments here.😊
Man I used to love this show as a kid.
And before y’all talk about what I was watching as a child I still watch cartoons and anime as well my taste in shows was all over the place and still is. 😅
I can tell you what was on the stove when my Dad beat the shit out of me 14 years ago for leaving the baby gate unlocked (for our dog not a baby). He fell over the thing striding over it. Mashed potatoes bottom left hob. Broccoli on the top right. We were both wearing jackets because we couldn't afford heating that month. I remember the "Squeak" of the polyester on his waterproof coat as he was winding up punches on me. Someone can be talking to me about the weather, some action they got with a girl the other night, and if I let my mind wander, I'll still end up right back there like it was happening all over again.
Sometimes the smell of a certain air freshener reminds me about huge fights my parents got into when I was 9-10 years old, because its what the room smelled like at the time. I'm pushing 30 now and just typing this out I can smell and could pick out the worst offending smell at a store right now.
😢Bless you
Thank you for sharing your experience. You have a real gift. I hope your writing it out brings you some peace.
Ok so tell me what the weather was that day and what color your shoe laces were?
You recall those details because in the moment it's what stuck with you not because you can magically recall every detail of that day.
Tide detergent. I hid my face in the armful of clean laundry in 4th grade when my "Mother" told me she regretted adopting as a baby. I should have died with my birth mother during delivery. See, back in the 70s-80s we didn't have Autism or ADHD , WE WERE JUST BAD KIDS!!!
@@PhotoJeticPoet It was night. Winter. November. You poking holes in my trauma story, ya pathetic loser?
"When people tell the truth they tend to not remember small details."
Me with both Autism and a photographic memory can remember a leaf on my dad's arm when I was 6 and he and his freind decided to swim across the pond at mile square park. It was a semi cloudy day.
First character I've seen who is told he has a very tiny amount of time and goes right along with it and doesn't waste any time asking for more.
The attention to detail thing is BS, i can remember a lot of "insignificant" details for a lot of occasions, starting at a very young age. It doesn't matter that i can remember the exact path we took, who was with us and how dark it was, when the neighbours daughter took me trick or treating for the first time when i was 2 1/2, but i do.
"When people are telling the truth, they don't feel the need to recall small details from several years ago"
Me, an autistic person who gets detail-oriented out of fear of being misinterpreted or accused of lying: 😳
“When people are telling the truth, they don’t feel the need to remember small details”?! That was such a dumb thing to say in an attempt to sound intelligent. People remember small details MORE during traumatic experiences. I remember what people were wearing in traumatic memories. And btw, he asked her the question about whether it was overcast or not! So that’s why she “felt the need” to remember small details. Who wrote that garbage? Then, what fool ok’d it?
Hell people often recall small details while forgetting big ones, when the event is traumatizing. That was such a stupid addition. Especially since she didn't volunteer the small detail information - he asked her specifically to recall the small detail and she thought about it for a minute. Which is normal behavior.
Meanwhile NDs try to give every detail possible because theyre so used to being called liars 🙃 Also some with PTSD can remember specific details. Those details can even become triggers
People telling the truth absolutely DO sometimes feel the need to recall small details. Thanks for spreading misinformation, TV show. [Edit] Just found out this is the show _Lie to Me._ They were usually _much_ better accuracy than this.
In an interview with the person they brought on the show to help with the science side of things, he mentioned they would often ignore his input in favor of the narrative they wanted the episode to have. That's probably why
none of y’all realize he was lying to them about the small details thing 😂😂😂
That's highly inaccurate. Small details often stick out clearly years after traumatic events.
The Song on the radio, the weather. Smells stuff like that
True. I can barely remember the events before or after my car wreck but I remember the song that was played.
Stranglehold- Ted nugent
That's what she was saying...
The craziest crash I was in, I remember that my windows were down, it was a nice feeling late October day, and Killer Queen was blasting on the radio.
It was 9 years ago.
Also, don't they use the memories of a traumatic event as exposure therapy for PTSD, where they start by asking you to remember precisely the small details?
Yep
My aunt remember every little detail in her childhood even whe she just turned 58 yrs old.
This show is so ridiculous but in a fun way. Dr Lightman (Tim Roths character) isn't a detective or any kind of law enforcement he's just a scientist.
Imagine if Neil Degrasse Tyson just showed up one day to grill you about a crime that happened decades ago 🤣🤣🤣
bad info. people replay trauma over and over, she would absolutely remember small details. Not necessarily EVERY detail. There would be things they wouldn't recall, but to say that the impact of trauma equals inability to recall minor details is a load of horseshit.
I love this show. Said it was discontinued
What's the name
@@leahneal7587someone else said it was called Lie to Me
@@leahneal7587 "Lie to me"
Lie to me
@@leahneal7587
@@leahneal7587 Lie to me
The absolutism of the person talking about identifying someone lying is typical of bad science and, worse, bad writing.
Tv show called 'Lie to me'
Thank you.
What channel was the show on... And thank you for telling us the name.
@@safiremorningstar Google "Lie to Me"
And hit the button that says "watch show" it changes all the time but, that will tell you how you can watch it at that time.
Thank you for the name 😮
Season and episode?
BUSTED, THAT ABOUT SUCKS FOR HER DOESN'T IT.
I never missed an episode of Lie to Me. I bought the dvds when it was cancelled. It was on regular cable tv. I think some making comments seen the reruns on the pay services as its an older show.
It's really was a good show Tim Roth was great in it
What show is this?
@@RayRay_28
It's called Lie To Me
@@RR-VanityInKnickers oh, okay! I'll have to look it up
OMG.... Thanks all... They never tell the name. Adding seasoning & episode would be nice too😊
Series name: Lie to me
14 years later my friends mom still remembers the day time and screeching tires that occured when her daughter was taken from the front lawn right in front of her but doesn't remember what she had been wearing even though she dressed her an hour before she was taken the man was arrested but her body was never found
Oh my, 😢 that's terrible. 💔
its always great for the story when people just blurt out their guilt. a lot of effort has to go into it if they just keep saying no...
Some people seem to be missing the point. It's not about detecting the lie by using recall of small details as an indicator. It's about applying pressure on the couple and digging in with accusations to see if one of them breaks. It's a legit interrogation technique and if you're wrong about the accusation, it will reflect in the response (like with the husband character). Patrick Jane in Mentalist executed this many a time at the risk of pissing off some innocent people.
fantastic show. discovered it when my anatomy teacher in highschool put an episode on one day for class
I loved watching this TV show (it's called "Lie to Me")
What season episode
@@Hartwik Season 2 Ep. 7 Black Friday
When they canceled this show, I stopped watching television.
I loved this show. I own it in total on DVD.
Now the algorithm goes to Dr. Lightman.
This and Dr. House to me are great shows.
I mean, I remember the weather the day we took my son home from the hospital, it was an unusually beautiful, warm, sunny day for April, but it was still windy. The night I went in, there was a chill and it was drizzling outside.
I remember how many saltines I ate on the way tothe hospiralto deliver my son, the sunrise, the exact parking spot we stopped at so I could throw up the crackers...
I can definitely remember small details from the past lol. To be fair most of my friends can’t but sometimes when I talk they will suddenly by reminded.
I remember it was sunny when my son was born. It’s also not too difficult because he was born in July
Lie to Me. Great show.
All you ppl going on about the details: LISTEN to what was said!
"Innocent ppl aren't going to bother to try and remember insignificant details"
In other words, if you've forgotten it, and you're innocent, you're not going to bother trying to remember it. But if you do remember, you do.
That's so stupid. He asked a pointed question which would make anyone try to remember that specific detail. Plus it was a traumatic thing which you either tend to remember vividly, or repress. Funny thing is that I know people who spout off this nonsense in real life, because they believe this show is true
My daughter can recall events going back 23 years, she is 25 and has a delayed disability but omg she can recall places, if it was day or night what music was playing and who was there.
Ngl if a child goes missing, a parent will DEFINITELY remember the details years later ESPECIALLY if they still think he’s alive
I wish they never canceled this show
I'll read it. WHERE IS THE PARAGRAPH GUY😢😂😂😂
What? That makes zero sense. 1. You likely would remember things like the weather on a highly traumatic day. But you also might not. 2. He asked her to recall a small detail, she felt the need to recall it because they asked her to. Da fuq is this greys anatomy? Lol
Nah, it does make sense. Liars feel the need to appear as if they possess the truth
@zaneplatt3533 he asked her a specific question. She didn't volunteer it. If heasked "what do you remember about that day?" And she started talking about the weather, that would be a marker of suspicion. Even then one-offs aren't enough. You need to group these behaviors in threes to make the inference even relatively reasonavle.
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"I think it was overcast" she said "It definitely was" she said.
Either, you fully remember the traumatic event. So it should be "yes it was" or you so not and say "can't recall". Flipping from "I think" to "It definitely was" means she was lying about something. Maybe the weather, maybe something else. Hence why they pressured her and she outed herself.
@ODDnanref again, singular instances are not enough for it to be a reasonable inference. You need these behaviors grouped. Even then I still disagree that this even qualifies as a single one.
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True, but the husband certainly had no issue expressing his uncertainty.
Never seen the show so no idea if they also picked up on something else. Shorts being short and all
Ok, stupid question but was this the TV show Lie to Me?
What show and episode is this?
Lie To Me, Season 2 Ep. 7: Black Friday
That's not recalling small details that's leading the witness
he is an expert in tracking deception. basically he started small to see how. much she was lying cause he already caught her lie in the initial conversation
@@immapotato1 except he was the one who brought up that detail about the weather. That's called leading the witness. If he wanted to catch her in a lie, he should have asked her what the weather was. Asking if the day was overcast implies to her that you think the day was overcast because it builds a rapport, and that isn't a clean way to catch someone in a lie
"When people are telling the truth, they don't feel the need to...blah blah". Gee, when I try to recall something from the past, the small details come blurting out.
great show
False.
I remember the exact spot. I hit the pavement in front of my house where I lost my front tooth from wrecking my bike.
I remember the t shirt I was wearing on september 11.
I remember the song on the radio when we flipped the truck.
I remember it was raining the day my mother died.
You remember the smallest details on the worst days of your life.
such a good show
This show was good. It's too bad it was canceled so soon.
The lady said they don't feel the need to recall small details they didn't say she didn't say you don't remember...... don't ' feel the need' is totally different from you don't or they 'don't remember' what's wrong with this country today people hear what they want to hear!!!!!!!! Mr.Q Southside Jamaica Queens
as a psychologist, the "minor details" part is absolute hogwash, minor details can be remembered and even potentially misrmemebered through misinformation or source confusion, or it could have a heightened level of confidence to the memory from it being a flashbulb memory, the question itself could have sparked the memory or created it retroactively
People do bring up small details when recalling events when telling the truth…
Small details are key memories sometimes to people due to hyperfixation about small weird things, it’s not an immediate lie detector…
This was such a good show...
It's available on Tubi.
The father from protecting his wife to "what"😂
Lie to Me. How I miss this show.
Is this based on true story, what is the show this clip is from?
Show name?
What show is this.
Show/season/episode?
Show is "Lie To Me"
Some people remember things, and some don't
"When people are telling the truth they don't feel the need to recall small details."
Not always true! I remember small details all the time and if someone asks for details I give it to them no matter the context. I remember where a family member put something days later when nobody else could find it. I'm not doing it on purpose that's just the way my brain does it. At my job they love it because I can remember where I saw something or where someone last had something without even trying. Honestly it's annoying. Imagine remembering every detail, but not even knowing it until someone asks you a question?
I was a tour guide for a tiny bit and the guy training me asked me questions and I was able to quote word for word what I was taught, but having to remember it on my own without prompts my mind was just blank. I had to train myself to use looking at the tour locations as the prompts to recall things.
Having that kind of memory makes certain questions impossible to answer in interviews. "Tell me about yourself." My whole life starts playing in my mind. "Tell me about x-job." Narrow it down! I hate open things like that because then I have to sift through all my memories about that to find things that are relevant. Do you have any idea how infuriating that is?
What show?
What show is this?
I remember the details related directly to the trauma but if you ask me what kind of day it was or smth i wouldnt remember
I would only remember if the weather was "attached" to some other detail that I remembered clearly.
I remember details… always!
paragraph pls😭
Parents who raised him wanted a baby and bought him from a struggling young mom,
detectives saw her and realized she wasn’t his mother and she was an addict,
She confessed she stole him from her dealer for his safety,
It was THEN revealed that dealer broke into his parole officer’s home, killed the parole officer’s wife, paralyzed him and stole his baby.
The Parole Officer is the father
hmmm...i can remember that it was overcast the day i brought my son home from the hospital when he was born 21 years ago. so im not too sure about that one...
Maybe they lied about the small detail but just to press her
I am so watching this series again
So what did the mom do? What was “the accident”?
Name?
It's fun idea, but basically nothing that they say is true
i used to loved this show, it does get boring after a few season tho.
Jesus, imagine that.
I’ve noticed I these clips that the guy from reservoir dogs says something and his partner has to explain it the other characters, and the audience
Which episode is this
Season 2 Ep. 7: Black Friday
That would have been a quick episode tbh.
I don't think we need the paragraph guy for this one...
She killed her real son "by accident" and I'm pretty sure she then tried to cover it up.. By kidnapping another kid to replace them..
Memories are extremely, extremely unreliable. Some of your most certain memories are not accurate. I'm not 100% sure about the whole "small details" thing described here, but I can say with certainty that whatever a person believes to be true, *especially* during a state of distress, are very likely to be inaccurate. It's why witness statements in criminology are not massively valuable (especially if witnesses have discussed it with anyone else).
I loved this show ‘Lie To Me’ with Tim Roth. Another great show cancelled before it’s time.
Is that the actor from grid'locked or am i tripping
So what happened to Johnny Knox? How did the baby die?
I don't know if that's right. I try to recall small details when I tell the truth. I mean he literally asked