Wdym? You want the characters to be the same for 9 whole seasons? Its maybe true that some things couldve been better, but come one the character development in this series was a solid 8/10
@@daviel1005 and this is the man that went from a drug dealer to a lawyer in like 10 minutes in the first episode. Clearly there was an arc present in the early episodes as well.
Early season Louis was more interested in beating Harvey then being friends with him. They had to make him more cool, conniving and competent to convince the audience that he was a rival to Harvey. Once they dropped that rivalry he went to being insecure, over emotional and clumsy. He briefly went back to his early season self when he uncovered Mike's secret and became name partner, but he regressed shortly after. I wish they would've found a better balance.
The only part I don't like about later seasons ( season 8) is they show more actual legal work done in earlier seasons than in later seasons. Season 8 had too many people acting like Harvey trying to do shakedown. Least in Season 7 Mike talk strategy at the Clinic.
Shame the writers could never figured out how to write a consistent Louis and just had him be whatever the script needed to make an episode work. Does he value loyalty more than anything or will he betray everyone he knows for the most petty of reasons? Depends on the episode.
He values loyalty, but at the very beginning is also very uncomfortable in his own skin. He is working his way up in the firm, to impress people like his family and others around him, but fails to know how to relate to people. His jealousy of Harvey, while wanting to be Harvey's friend makes him prey to manipulators like Hardman. His struggles to relate makes it difficult for him to see social situations the right way. This leads to moments where he thinks people he's be weonged and or laughed at, then lashes out viciously. He starts to calm down and be less extreme once he attends therapy and finds love. It's these issues psychologically that inhibits judgement theoughout, but fundamentally at his core is loyalty.
@@reiggier9211 "No the character is intentionally written as irrational" is always the worst take when people try to defend a script. "No you see the character isn't supposed to make sense, that's the brilliance of it". Right. Want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
One other I can think of is when he, Mike and Harvey are working on a case together and they need Louis' accounting expertise and he is able to break down the reasons for the fraud and is able to add numbers in the millions together in his head, in an almost idiot savant way.
Although I hated Louis at first (which I’m sure was intentional) looking back at it now, he was always there to help the team. He was loyal through and through (yes I know he sided with hardman later) but scenes like this and him saying “I know I can come off prickly, but we’re a team. That means I’m here to help” easily gets overlooked many times because he’s too emotional.
I think anyone in their right mind who has been belittle so many times and disregarded, and mocked as he was at work (by Harvey, who we all know, did it because he was a dck and Jessica never stopped him and sometimes even allowed in front of her) would have side with Hardman, which from outsiders perspective was a better boss, he was not aware of all what he had done, once he did he backed off and supported the team. Which is super understandable. Louis had to make an extra effort to be recognized like Harvey and he would still be mocked even tho he was one of the best lawyers they had. They just were dcks to him because they found him weird.
Maaan I actually liked the Litt-Ross combo and when Harvey took him away from Louis was one of the saddest scenes in this show! I'm very glad Katrina more than made up to being a replacement for Mike as Louis' top Associate.
Really hated how they turned Louis from an interesting character to just someone who added drama. He had so many moments where he could've shown growth but instead they kept bringing him down.
@@averredanielian he wasn't betrayed.. in S4... he messed up a 100 times in a row and disobeyed jessica directly.. that was grounds for firing... not betrayal. harvey messes up once instance but fixes it.. louis messes up about 5 different things
i don't have any expertise in corporate law or any law for that matter but isn't the difference between listed and potential assets pretty obvious and as Mike says a possible multi million dollar mistake. So Louis is just saying that Pearson Hardman "the best law firm in the city" managed to hire 50 people from Harvard Law "the best law school in the world" and somehow all of them are incompetent? I think P H needs better HR
I was told by a lawyer, personally, that they are all lacking in the ability to understand numbers and things that deal with money in particular. I found it to be true after the attorney I hired, agreed with me to charge a flat fee to represent me then only billed me half the amount and told me how much he enjoyed working on the case because of how well it paid for the time he put in. I shut my mouth and went home after thanking him.
Characters who are gifted and flawed at the same time are a gourmet meal for the actor. No perfect people like Rey who is a saber-wielding plank for her entire character arc. People who succeed in spite of their flaws...and sometimes, even because of them...grow and develop.
Filling patents is incredible complicated in the US. It's not only going to the office and putting the request. It takes months of research to do it properly. This episode was really inaccurate in this regard (and in other points). LegalEagle channel did a analysis in this episode and he explains it better
It isnt but thats the point. The associate who filed the patent knew the job he conned Mike into doing was much harder and longer to undertake than the initial patent filing.
I'm sure the middle name of Louis was Linchpin. Coz although they took time to make Louis a senior partner, they'd dread his presence for the kind of impact he'd create with his work.
"Bros expression control is incredible" He does great job with the expressions. I have seen one movie where he is in his youth, and totally different character. I don't know what kind person he is in reality, but Louis is very rollercoaster as a character.
Alot of people have alot to say about louis. But everyones opinion can be summed up into the fact he wasnt consistant in the early seasons. If he was consistent, but also kept his faults and then grew, he would easily be the best character
every coffee cup is the show is so obviously empty it’s hilarious, they carry it around like it’s empty and wave around the cups like it’s not going to spill
Almost all hollywood shows/movies with coffee scenes irk TF out of me. It's obvious how the coffee cups don't contain anything as it is being handled without weight. A real cup wouldn't even move an inch because of the heavy fluid inside. Shame on you, directors
If I'm ever in a corner office on the top floor somewhere I really hope I'll have a secretary as loyal as the lady in blue. Lol I wasn't even mad when she shut him down. I was just respect lady respect! 😂
I liked when Mike called louis out for trying to get him fired and other harassment that Louis claimed was just work games, and that's why people don't like him.
@@raitei1213 props for you for trying to learn! I don’t know if this makes it easier to understand but I’ll try. Her sarcasm is saying, what your asking me to do is so dumb that I might as well go hack into his bank accounts. It’s like saying yea that’s such a wild idea why not do even dumber stuff while we are at it.
I get it when they decided to make Louis more lovable and human in the later seasons but I didn’t appreciate that they did it by him a chubby(not in a body shaming way) clown. He can be tough and smart in a non-childish way.
you would think they would research how patent applications are actually filed and processed, and yet in several episodes they might as well have been discussing underwater tap dancing as that would have been closer to correct compared to what they yammered about.
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The one consistent thing about Louis in the entire series is he gives credit where credit is deserved.
And his weight gain
@@qs4177 thats the actor tho not the character. that has nothing to do with louis.
@@keiya8 Actually, they made him gain weight for the role.
Especially to himself
@@samsouyave-murphy986 why?
Louis and Mike's interactional all early seasons were a real treasure!
Definitely, Every time I've seen mike and louis interact in season 1-3, I've always smiled.
The characters were exceptionally well defined in the early seasons and then the writers felt they needed to give them an arc.
Wdym? You want the characters to be the same for 9 whole seasons? Its maybe true that some things couldve been better, but come one the character development in this series was a solid 8/10
@@therealmaster9686 As Mike says in one of the early episodes when he has a eureka moment, 'People are who they are.'
Um... you mean like a show?
The problem was the actors leaving…
@@daviel1005 and this is the man that went from a drug dealer to a lawyer in like 10 minutes in the first episode. Clearly there was an arc present in the early episodes as well.
I missed this Louis during later seasons when they pumped up his insecurities (sometimes to ridiculous proportions)
At first he was evil 😂 later he became weaker and weaker
Early season Louis was more interested in beating Harvey then being friends with him. They had to make him more cool, conniving and competent to convince the audience that he was a rival to Harvey. Once they dropped that rivalry he went to being insecure, over emotional and clumsy. He briefly went back to his early season self when he uncovered Mike's secret and became name partner, but he regressed shortly after. I wish they would've found a better balance.
@@EclipseCircle I love later Louis!
The only part I don't like about later seasons ( season 8) is they show more actual legal work done in earlier seasons than in later seasons. Season 8 had too many people acting like Harvey trying to do shakedown. Least in Season 7 Mike talk strategy at the Clinic.
When Louis took over as Managing partner in Season 8, he acted professional and showed Harvey and Robert how childish they were acting.
Truly believe that Louis is the star of this show with the most complex character by far.
The most inconsistent, I don’t know about complex
@@harryb12993 tf u mean inconsistent, bro had so much character development for the 9 seasons what r u on about
Yes I love his presence! But idk why they made him so insecure in the newer seasons
Easily my fav
you mean complex like he keeps messing up and getting into completely avoidable trouble if he would just talk or ask?
Shame the writers could never figured out how to write a consistent Louis and just had him be whatever the script needed to make an episode work.
Does he value loyalty more than anything or will he betray everyone he knows for the most petty of reasons? Depends on the episode.
He's extremely emotional/tempermental and it causes him to act irrationally and against his values
He values loyalty, but at the very beginning is also very uncomfortable in his own skin. He is working his way up in the firm, to impress people like his family and others around him, but fails to know how to relate to people. His jealousy of Harvey, while wanting to be Harvey's friend makes him prey to manipulators like Hardman. His struggles to relate makes it difficult for him to see social situations the right way. This leads to moments where he thinks people he's be weonged and or laughed at, then lashes out viciously. He starts to calm down and be less extreme once he attends therapy and finds love. It's these issues psychologically that inhibits judgement theoughout, but fundamentally at his core is loyalty.
@@jmmypaddy Nice analysis
same with the others, harvey and donna are the most hypocritical characters on tv
@@reiggier9211 "No the character is intentionally written as irrational" is always the worst take when people try to defend a script. "No you see the character isn't supposed to make sense, that's the brilliance of it". Right. Want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
it's just impossible to sit comfortably next to Louis
Some people didn't like Louis but I enjoyed him. He was hysterical.
Yeah, you as enjoy to watch him like many of us.
How about working with him, especially outranked
I've never watched the show, but I think this is the only clip I've ever seen that paints Louis in a flattering light
One other I can think of is when he, Mike and Harvey are working on a case together and they need Louis' accounting expertise and he is able to break down the reasons for the fraud and is able to add numbers in the millions together in his head, in an almost idiot savant way.
It's a FANTASTIC show, you're missing out !
Although I hated Louis at first (which I’m sure was intentional) looking back at it now, he was always there to help the team. He was loyal through and through (yes I know he sided with hardman later) but scenes like this and him saying “I know I can come off prickly, but we’re a team. That means I’m here to help” easily gets overlooked many times because he’s too emotional.
I think anyone in their right mind who has been belittle so many times and disregarded, and mocked as he was at work (by Harvey, who we all know, did it because he was a dck and Jessica never stopped him and sometimes even allowed in front of her) would have side with Hardman, which from outsiders perspective was a better boss, he was not aware of all what he had done, once he did he backed off and supported the team. Which is super understandable. Louis had to make an extra effort to be recognized like Harvey and he would still be mocked even tho he was one of the best lawyers they had. They just were dcks to him because they found him weird.
Him siding with hardman means hes not loyal so...
I can’t believe I found a suits video in the wild that’s not a short with sigma music over it, truely an inspirational moment
Harvey is a sigma male.
@@Ronin3453 Harvey is a fictional movie character lil bro
@@cockas Wait... Really? 😲
@@Ronin3453 I am sorry I had to be the one bringing the bad news to you
@@cockas you crushed my dreams. 😭
I liked when the show was about a law firm practicing law
Maaan I actually liked the Litt-Ross combo and when Harvey took him away from Louis was one of the saddest scenes in this show! I'm very glad Katrina more than made up to being a replacement for Mike as Louis' top Associate.
I really liked when louis and mike worked together he was really appreciative of his talent and skills
Louis and Mike are a lot more alike than Mike and Harvey.
One thing I loved which isn't quite in this scene is that the fact that Mike delayed the patent actually nearly cost them the case...
I miss these early episodes of Louis. I coudn't finish Suits because they made Louis unbearable to watch, yelling in rage over trifles.
That "No" from Donna was so cute.
The way Louis can say things with a straight face is beyond amazing.
mike being a sucker for being tricked into those briefs and also a sucker for believing donna with the file hahahah
Rick Hoffman needs more recognition. Dude is awesome.
He’s got great comedic timing.
Donna's voice is really something else!
Really hated how they turned Louis from an interesting character to just someone who added drama. He had so many moments where he could've shown growth but instead they kept bringing him down.
He's the reason I can't watch the show. I tried for a couple of episodes.
Louis is Loyal AF!
Until he stabs you in the back.
have u watched suits???
@@jssfuzz he was loyal till betrayed doesn't count.
@@averredanielian he wasn't betrayed.. in S4... he messed up a 100 times in a row and disobeyed jessica directly.. that was grounds for firing... not betrayal. harvey messes up once instance but fixes it.. louis messes up about 5 different things
The first seasons were wholesome 👌
bro louis is so fit here
i don't have any expertise in corporate law or any law for that matter but isn't the difference between listed and potential assets pretty obvious and as Mike says a possible multi million dollar mistake. So Louis is just saying that Pearson Hardman "the best law firm in the city" managed to hire 50 people from Harvard Law "the best law school in the world" and somehow all of them are incompetent? I think P H needs better HR
tbf I think thats the reason he read over the brieifing himself because associates could make that mistake whereas a partner likely wouldnt
I was told by a lawyer, personally, that they are all lacking in the ability to understand numbers and things that deal with money in particular. I found it to be true after the attorney I hired, agreed with me to charge a flat fee to represent me then only billed me half the amount and told me how much he enjoyed working on the case because of how well it paid for the time he put in. I shut my mouth and went home after thanking him.
@@kidd_gallahad2512 So you are saying that differentiate listed asset and potential asset should be the job of an accountant ?
@@duyvan247 No, not what I said.
love this show...the writers and directors are superb..louis comedic genius is superb
subpar??
@@JayAreAitch superb,i didnt know how that word got in there..ill edit ti
@@isonnonong9094ti???
Mike ross direct most of the episodes
0:59 - 1:14
I always loop that so I can get inspired to continue reading cases and the codals for Law school
The whole cast are amazing actors but louis takes it to another level.
Characters who are gifted and flawed at the same time are a gourmet meal for the actor. No perfect people like Rey who is a saber-wielding plank for her entire character arc. People who succeed in spite of their flaws...and sometimes, even because of them...grow and develop.
I love how throughout this show they constantly drop a blue folder in front of the person who just previously remarked with a whitty quip.
Louis was/is probably the most hateable but loveable character in any series i have watched😂😂
Now show us the tennis club scene where Mike bonded with Tom Keller.
Louis loves his company
How is proofing those briefs any faster than googling how to file a patent
Filling patents is incredible complicated in the US. It's not only going to the office and putting the request. It takes months of research to do it properly. This episode was really inaccurate in this regard (and in other points). LegalEagle channel did a analysis in this episode and he explains it better
@@tiago83051 oh absolutely, I was more going off the in universe(inaccurate) way of filing a patent.
@@AP-yx9de Makes sense. In my country you can google almost all legal procedures if you need. It doesn't mean you will do it well, but you can try
It isnt but thats the point. The associate who filed the patent knew the job he conned Mike into doing was much harder and longer to undertake than the initial patent filing.
@@rosies14 it still would have been faster to figure out how to file the patent even if it was only like one binder of proofs
4:15 Buy me dinner first 😅😅
Mike needed his own series
Without Harvey it wouldn't have lasted beyond one season.
Mike you know I pick a pony out of the heard each year????...
A Pony????
That had me cracking Up.
2:09 that cut when louis came a little too close to mike 😂
A Harvey can make an organisation profitable, but it takes a Louis to keep the organisation running to make those profits...
I'm sure the middle name of Louis was Linchpin. Coz although they took time to make Louis a senior partner, they'd dread his presence for the kind of impact he'd create with his work.
The expression is "eye for detail".
The man that plays Louis is such an amazing actor. Bros expression control is incredible
"Bros expression control is incredible"
He does great job with the expressions.
I have seen one movie where he is in his youth, and totally different character.
I don't know what kind person he is in reality, but Louis is very rollercoaster as a character.
I love this version of Louis 😂
Louis was so slim in the early seasons😂
My favorite suit actor is Louis. He sbeen so underrated.
When starting out, since experience is not an asset, something needs to be.
"We are full!"
Louis is my favorite character of the show
“Stamp my little brand on them”. That’s weird AF.
Alot of people have alot to say about louis. But everyones opinion can be summed up into the fact he wasnt consistant in the early seasons.
If he was consistent, but also kept his faults and then grew, he would easily be the best character
Unpopular opinion but mike would have had a great career with louis 💀
Agreed
Am I the only one that has Louis as my favorite character... and it's not even close? The man is fricken hilarious.
I super love Donna
He just got litt
Eye FOR detail
Mike and Harvey wearing the exact same tie.
I have stumbled down the rabbit hole of Suits clips, please send help.
I didn't know Aubrey from Bones was here. What a pleasant surprise.
Suits wouldn't be Suits without him
I think i have to do this too "i know i just posed that as a question but i really didnt mean it that way" maybe i will get more things done😂
Is the season 10 coming soon?
No...The series has ended
I know I posed that as a question but I really didn’t meant it that way 😂
Luis has always been my favorite
0:43 Anyone remembers Aubry, the last sidekick of Booth, from The Bones?
Louis was never a bad guy. He wanted recognition and respect and he rarely ever got it and when he did it was with a catch...they created Louis
That cup is so obviously empty
every coffee cup is the show is so obviously empty it’s hilarious, they carry it around like it’s empty and wave around the cups like it’s not going to spill
Funny, that’s how I treat my little brother.
It was killing me where I knew that patent filer from, but it's James Aubrey from Bones!
Where is this other actor from. The one sitting down it's driving me crazy I can see him but not place him
He has an eye to detail
Okay I guess I’ll re watch suits
Brilliant character Louis 😊
Already watched the series 3 times. When are you guys coming with the new season?? Badly waiting for it.
Its already ended
What new season? It ended in 2019.
Only on rewatch I understood that Louis was actually helping Mike and not playing some games here.
Louis is my fave character!
Louis is slim here.
Almost all hollywood shows/movies with coffee scenes irk TF out of me. It's obvious how the coffee cups don't contain anything as it is being handled without weight. A real cup wouldn't even move an inch because of the heavy fluid inside. Shame on you, directors
Eye *for detail.
Hmm...
It's such a shame this show was discontinued, could have watched another 5 seasons.
The actor still creeps me out from the “ Hostel “
If I'm ever in a corner office on the top floor somewhere I really hope I'll have a secretary as loyal as the lady in blue. Lol I wasn't even mad when she shut him down. I was just respect lady respect! 😂
Still don't understand why anyone wants to work in an environment like this. I despise working in a firm and am glad i have almost reached retirement.
It is easy to hate Louis, but is easy to love him too!
Why did Harvey take Mike’s Coffee?
Because he can
@@kaylamura5378 but Mike bought it for him
Because he can.
Because he can
Because he can
I liked when Mike called louis out for trying to get him fired and other harassment that Louis claimed was just work games, and that's why people don't like him.
"12:15?' "Nooo"
Can anyone explain what does Donna's sarcasm means? The one about access to Harvey's bank account to buy a house
"No, I'm not going to lie to Harvey about when you put it there"
@@igotveemon But how does it related to the bank account thing?
@@raitei1213 She's just making a joke about another way she could betray Harvey's trust, which she also isn't going to do
@@hickjose I see. I understand now. Wow, these American sarcasms really hard to understand
@@raitei1213 props for you for trying to learn!
I don’t know if this makes it easier to understand but I’ll try.
Her sarcasm is saying, what your asking me to do is so dumb that I might as well go hack into his bank accounts. It’s like saying yea that’s such a wild idea why not do even dumber stuff while we are at it.
I did like louis, even if he was quite insufferable at times
I have to watch this show
I get it when they decided to make Louis more lovable and human in the later seasons but I didn’t appreciate that they did it by him a chubby(not in a body shaming way) clown. He can be tough and smart in a non-childish way.
Eye for detail not eye to detail like your title
stamp stamp
i cant find this chart, help!
I'm at season 8 episode 5 and I miss Mike and Rachel 😢😢
I love Louis so much
I pay attention to everything I just don't talk 👁️
"Are you my pony Mike?"
nice!
I feel like I should watch suits again…. Missing the class of making these days…
What's it on? I keep watching these clips. It looks like a cool show! I guess I could Google it. Lol
you would think they would research how patent applications are actually filed and processed, and yet in several episodes they might as well have been discussing underwater tap dancing as that would have been closer to correct compared to what they yammered about.