Just Off the Highway | Ep 41 | Valley of Conflict - Tracing History from Koni people to Boer War

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • Near Dullstroom, Mpumalanga there’s a valley that bears the traces of different peoples who have lived, farmed, and fought there for centuries. Al Prodgers visits Valley of the Rainbow to see the ruins of Koni people dwellings and tell the story of an indestructible watermill that saw action if the Anglo-Boer war.
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Комментарии • 57

  • @neom.matsunyane3729
    @neom.matsunyane3729 5 месяцев назад +6

    Bokone means north in the Sotho languages including SeTswana. Bakone means people of the north and they’re part of the BaPedi nation. To this day they still use Mokone as a greeting; which is the singular form of Bakone. I’m loving the stories and thank you.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much for your comment and for adding that interesting information. Thrilling to see the picture filling out.

    • @stephandeswardt5802
      @stephandeswardt5802 2 месяца назад

      Dankie Al vir jou lewendhou vd geskiedenis. Jy het die beste beskrywing v guerilla-oorlogvoering gegee wat ek nog gegee het.

  • @lindarossouw5052
    @lindarossouw5052 2 месяца назад +2

    What a beautiful story about our boer nation!

  • @celinenel3078
    @celinenel3078 5 месяцев назад +3

    I am currently doing my Masters in Architecture on the Bakoni! It's amazing to see the story of this remarkable civilisation coming to light.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  5 месяцев назад

      Wow! That is fascinating. Thanks! I have a contact address below the video. If you have any information that you'd be prepared to share, I'd love to know more and perhaps visit other sites.

  • @UlandiAnnandale
    @UlandiAnnandale 6 месяцев назад +8

    What an absolutely gorgeous place. Amazing to find out about the Koni people and the windmill. Fascinating once again! Thanks Al.

  • @user-lk2ux9vz5d
    @user-lk2ux9vz5d 6 месяцев назад +5

    Bakone are still around. They part of bapedi in Limpopo-mpumalanga border. Others are part of vhavenda(goni people) and they're also in the north west of polokwane under chief Matlala.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад +1

      I do understand that there are modern people who use this name. From what I've read, their links to the more ancient people are not 100% clear. But, you seem to have much more detail that I was able to access.

  • @stephandeswardt5802
    @stephandeswardt5802 2 месяца назад +1

    Dankie Al vir jou lewendhou vd geskiedenis en uitstekende uiteensetting v guerilla-oorlogvoering.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  Месяц назад

      Baie dankie vir die kommentaar. Ek is bly u geniet dit. Dis 'n voorreg.

  • @theunisa
    @theunisa 6 месяцев назад +5

    Loved this Al, so many amazing stories right under our noses, so many more to find too... safe travels on and just off the highway 😊

  • @greywithglasses
    @greywithglasses 6 месяцев назад +4

    Oh Al, what a good piece of work once again! Most of it I have never of, but the Bokoni people I have. I have done a video called "Is this Africa’s “Stonehenge” or is it just an abandoned cattle pen?" where in some other ruines are of the Bokoni are featured. I will add a paragraph from the video, which of course you may delete. Keep up the excellent work!
    Although the exact date is unknown, it is generally accepted that the Bokoni people settled here since the 16th century. The Bokoni were pursued by the Mfecane, and that's why the structures the Bokoni built look like a collection of interconnected forts. The Mfecane eventually drove the Bokoni away from here in the 1830s.

  • @AGrobler
    @AGrobler 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful content. So interesting. Thank you

  • @denniscooney3584
    @denniscooney3584 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate your support. 🙏

  • @izakbarnard8859
    @izakbarnard8859 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks!

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  5 месяцев назад

      Thank YOU for your generous support! I'm glad you feel my channel is worth watching. 🙏

  • @landibear6509
    @landibear6509 6 месяцев назад +8

    Such a beautiful place. We live in such a beautiful, picturesque country. I hope that neighbour faced the consequences. Scorched Earth was so cruel. Am I right when making the assumption that they would then often take the woman and children to concentration camps too?

    • @CorneEngelbrecht78
      @CorneEngelbrecht78 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yes I think you might be right that they took them to concentration camps. I am sure Al can give you more deets. (Maybe he should do an episode on that)

    • @landibear6509
      @landibear6509 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@CorneEngelbrecht78 That would be wonderful. Another sad and often overlooked part if our history. If anybody could do that story justice, it would be Al.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you. Yes, women, children and the non-combatant elderly were taken to the concentration camps. It is such a sad and bleak episode in our history and there were so many more camps than I first realised that I don't think I could do justice to the subject. But I know that we will have to touch on it again as it is relevant to other stories that I hope to tell.

    • @landibear6509
      @landibear6509 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@JustOfftheHighway Thanks Al. I don't know if I mentioned this before, so apologies if I have but a while back I was watching a documentary about the Duchy of Cornwell from when King Charles was still Prince Charles and he showed off tins that were chocolate and sweet containers, from companies such as Cadbury, sent to the British officers stationed in South Africa at the time to boost their morale and I've since just had this very sad image of these officers eating their treats on one side of those concentration camp fences while young children of all races in those camps were looking on and dying themselves of starvation. Such a sad, sad time in our history.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад +2

      Ouch! Yes, that is a very sad image. I don't think most of them were monsters, but war is a harsh business.

  • @joyholtzhausen8976
    @joyholtzhausen8976 17 дней назад +1

    The paragraph you read explained clearly to me the cause of the very deep anger and anti British sentiment my Ouma often expressed. As a young child she endured the crushing hardship and heartbreak of being interred in one of those concentration camps

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  17 дней назад

      Yes, the more I have read, I have also begun to feel the magnitude of the suffering. Very sad. Thanks for your adding a bit of your family history.

  • @ReformedVicar
    @ReformedVicar 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you Al I thoroughly enjoy your shows

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks! Lovely to hear from you again. I'm glad you're enjoying them.

  • @user295295
    @user295295 6 месяцев назад +3

    Even if the Internet has already done this, but:
    Lets make Koni famous.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад +1

      I'd love to make South African stories better known.

    • @godfreyberry1599
      @godfreyberry1599 6 месяцев назад

      Sooner or later some unknown group of squatters will claim this place under the pretence of being descended from the obscure Koni tribe.

  • @joleneengelbrecht284
    @joleneengelbrecht284 6 месяцев назад +3

    😎

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  6 месяцев назад

      Absolutely super! Thanks for your generous support!

  • @micheldawidjanstrydom
    @micheldawidjanstrydom 6 месяцев назад +2

    You can see the same structures in Suikerbosrand nature reserve.

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  5 месяцев назад

      I didn't know that. Also strange that so many stories that I find seem to have connections to the Heidelberg area.

  • @berniceclark4249
    @berniceclark4249 5 месяцев назад +1

    We had a farm that's two farms away from where you are on the otherside of rainbow valley we also had outposts on the farm my dad passed away and my mother sold the farm miss it so much

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  5 месяцев назад +1

      I can imagine. It's a beautiful part of the country.

    • @berniceclark4249
      @berniceclark4249 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's has the best summer but the coldest winter some days it gets very misty so thick that you can't see your neighbors house and can last for up to three days. The thunder storms that roll into the valley are out of this world to watch 😊

  • @mccallan2798
    @mccallan2798 2 месяца назад

    Research Dr Cyril Hromnik

    • @JustOfftheHighway
      @JustOfftheHighway  2 месяца назад

      I respond better to polite, full sentences.

    • @mccallan2798
      @mccallan2798 2 месяца назад +1

      @@JustOfftheHighway
      Cool, I've unsub'd and won't be following you any longer. Not sure if that's a full sentence but at least I tried.

  • @johanconradie2120
    @johanconradie2120 6 месяцев назад +1

    A mill grinds flour, FLOUR!!!..

    • @CorneEngelbrecht78
      @CorneEngelbrecht78 6 месяцев назад +1

      Good job at rising to the occasion. Ek het dit nie ge-wheaty. I know where to go to if I knead more help. :-)

    • @wot4922
      @wot4922 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@CorneEngelbrecht78nice one😂