Thanks for watching this episode with Mike Mutzel! If you're finding it valuable, please let me know by hitting the LIKE button on the video. I really appreciate the support 🙏 -Jesse 💙
It's 58° outside my house is always 10 degrees cooler I have I had on ,n a sweater.did my resistance bands, 15 minutes twice a day on my mini trampoline.few times a day stairway (snacks) traveled 9 countries this year with a backpack 🎒🎒 only!! I am 65 !! Had breast cancer 15 years ago!! Great conversation guys ❤❤
Jesse as someone who has listened to health and wellness podcasts for 10+ years and has been following Mike and his work for as long I’d like to say thank you. Over the years a lot of podcasters have turned me off personally. Your style, your genuine interest in the topics, your ability to ask good questions and let your guests answer and finish thoughts without interrupting to show how much you know is so very welcomed and appreciated. You have a new subscriber and genuine follower because of your hard work, thoughtfulness and quality content. Best of luck on your continuous growth.
@@dirkmoolman Me too with diverticulosis agonies, psorisis flares and a host of skin inflammations and gut aches! This is poorly informed at best! Autoimmunity in western world requires eliminating all the industrial toxins the FDA says is safe to consume, and yet look at the vast numbers of autoimmune illness in today's "modern' sick bloody world. Europe has protected their farmers food from Monsanto as they saw the devil coming. SO NO. this is bullshit here.
Clean eating is a must these days. Jesse your point on understanding the context of Mike's diet is very important. Whenever I travel outside the US my gut heals. The poisoning of US Food, especially meats and dairy must be considered! Even organic food is exposed to toxins! His experience is just that, his experience in Costa Rica.
I’ve never had as intense and noticeable healing as from the few extended dry fasts I did. I’ve been exercising all my life, yet that never made my old scar tissues disappear nor healed old injuries like dry fasting did
I just did my first dry fast, and it began so so soooo easy, but I only made it through to day 5. I did not sleep days 2,3 and 4, so that is what broke me. Until day 4, I wasn't thirsty, and had zero hunger all the way through. It was only thirst, but I think had I slept, I'd have made it 7 days, which was my goal (The Phoenix Protocol). Nothing weird has come out of me, no orange sludgey goo, no nothing. I lost about 9lbs, and that was right back on the day I re-fed and drank. Again, I've not noticed any benefits? I'm thinking the near infrared sauna I did for an hour daily for over a year may have gotten rid of most my toxins, so the dry fast benefits were kind of meh, but I don't know? I also cold plunge, do coffee mms enemas, and many other health hacks. Please share your benefits, dry fast length, etc. I've done many fasts since 2007 when I did my first liquid-only 21 day juice fast. I'm going to do a 3 day dry fast every other week to see how that goes. Maybe I need to build up to 7 days. Or figure out how to sleep. I'm in love with sleep, and always have been. My sleep hygiene is on point, so when I couldn't sleep during the do fast, it really messed me up, grrrrr.
I like Hump-36, short and very healing. Google the document “ Explanations to dry fasting, Hump-36”. This is my favorite method. Wish you the best on your journey.
I'm Italian, lived in Spain,UK , USA. I had hypertension for 17 years and took two pills per day. Doctors..many told I was daughter of two hypertensed parents and inherited their geins. B.S.I also used to eat once a day so far. When I stopped all the flours I mean all. In less than 2 months my blood pressure was perfect. I'm 65 and so far I do not take any pill. I also had an open heart operation. ..all the flours contain carbohydrates..... potatoes and so on. Being from Milan I can tell we have the best food in the world,it's hard to stay away from pasta, bread,pizza . Thank god we don't drink sodas much. Due to our culture. Good luck to everyone and leave all the flours.
I went low carb 3 years ago and started eating a lot of almond flour. After I learned that it was high in omega 6 I switched to coconut flour. When I made my waffles (savoury that I use as a substitute for bread because I can't have cheese/chaffles), I did notice a very mild taste of coconut the first time I ate it, but after that I didn't notice it.
It seems there are a lot of people walking back their stance on purely animal based using arguments that don't make sense according to what they (or others) said before. I would assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, that we would be fermenting and using sourdough only as early as the agricultural revolution. If it's correct that we, according to the stable isotopes research, would be at least 80% carnivorous before that point in time it wouldn't make sense we'd be fermenting stuff. I can't imagine us collecting the ancestor of wheat when it wouldn't be easy to find in large quantities and it's seeds would be much smaller. Most records point to starchy tubers and fruits as a main source to fill that 20% from what I gather. The question is then if there would be enough time to evolve to thrive on (fermented) grains since we started eating them. It seems all these fermenting techniques are mainly used to make it less harmful. It seems these techniques were developed because we were forced to since our main food sources became scarce. Am I seeing this wrong? I'm all for variety in my diet but I feel there's a lot of bending the science to fit the preferred conclusion. 🤷♂
Always go back to Dr Weston Price: the indigenous tribes he studied had wide faces and perfect teeth (without toothpaste) until they moved to cities - then their offspring had narrowed jaws, crooked teeth, and dental caries.
If you look into stable isotope assessment of ancestral diets, the figures vary IMMENSELY, from 30% animal based to 90% animal based. The variation depends on where (geographically) the specimen is from, when (we can't tell if there was famine), and probably others. This allows spruikers to cherry pick to suit their agenda.
I follow Mike and still learned a lot in this talk! Thanks for bringing it to us Jessie. Doing all the keto, IF, HIIT, resistance training, sauna etc. actions and feeling healthier and stronger than when I was in my 20s, now 55.
Try going Carnivore & cinsume animal proteins only, ie Meats, fish, including bacon, eggs, cheese, butter 🥓 & by eliminating all grain products. Dr Peter Osborne's book: NO GRAIN, NO PAIN explains the many Gluten types and the inflammatory diseases it causes & exacerbates, including Arthritis, skin conditions, brain fog, fatigue ie Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia etc etc etc You won't believe the ENERGY SURGE & mental clarity you'll have!!! My Fibromyalgia pains, fatigue and brain fog are reduced by 75-85% depending on the weather and other factors, activity level etc. Inositol longer need the 6 daily NSAIDS & opiates to manage the pain! My Husband can hardly believe that he's got his youthful, energetic, go-getter wife back again & I'm in my 60's now, lol I'm back to horseback riding, hiking, jeeping, gardening & socializing! Hallelujah!🎉😅
I’m sure there are people who have problems with oxalates, but barring doing silly things (eating huge amounts/over time) I’d be surprised if oxalates are relevant for the majority of people.
@Scottlp2 Have you never had or known people who've had kidney stones or any of the numerous issues that can come from oxalates? Never looked into the many foods that contain oxalates? Don't dismiss what you don't understand.
I had what I thought was arthritis from artificial sweetener in diet soda as well as too much sugar or bread. No arthritis with no diet soda and limited sugar and bread.
In holland kale is historically only eaten in winter after “frost went over it” as they say. It softens the fibre and might have other effects that make it better digestible. In Italy people eat more seasonally, cause it is historically and culturally the norm.
High intensity is relative to each person's fitness level. It's important to honor one's baseline to prevent comparing one's intensity level reached to another person. Celebrate the change over time ...
Excercise is better than fasting? Gary Taubes would say if you are going to an event or celebration where there will be lots of food. What do we do? We go for a walk, or do some form of excercise to increase appetite. So I feel its fasting that is better for me as an individual.
37:00 he starts to get into diabetes and his knowledge of biology of that explained more than i have ever heard. Never get this knowledge from my doctor either...
At 50:20 Mike Mutzel suggested using cold emersion therapy to lower glucose (and can't explain why this works but speculates why). This is actually just a limitation of the CGM sensor (false reading). When the sensor gets cold, it reports a lower value than you get with a pin prick test. Try just icing the sensor itself to see what I'm talking about.
Mike Mutzel is forgetting that the ancient egyptians ate ancient organic wheat which they probably first sprouted and then made sour dough bread with. So they processed their grains properly, just like Bill Schindler says you should, but they had terrible health. Obesity, men had man boobs, coronary-artery disease, awfull teeth and cancer. Up to 75% of their diet consisted of bread. The peasants seldom ate meat.
I've managed to cut out bread and haven't missed it. I make my own coconut flour waffles which each contain 1 extra large egg to use as transport for chicken or salmon for lunch at work 3 x per week. I very really eat them at home.
I don't live in a world of work meetings, zoom calls, standing desks, Garmin watches, and gym memberships. It doesn't matter how much of the science he understands, if all the strategies he comes up with are out of reach of the sections of the community that need them most
Then the sad truth is most people are just screwed. But anybody can walk. You can do burpees inside. You can also fast 20 hours a day which works you will lose 1-2 lbs per week doing that. Everybody is responsible for themselves.
@chrisdonnell2575 no. My point is, that all theYT interviews I've seen are utterly unrealistic and ex-clusive. Someone produce a perspective that speaks to the real lives of the sections of the population that need it most. Many of whom may not have the educational, intellectual or financial resources that you have.
@@cassieoz1702 What? Walking is free, burpees free, bodyweight squats free, pushups free, situps free, fasting actually saves money and is < free as you aren't eating and wasting $$ during that time. The truth is everybody knows how to lose weight but has no discipline. They enjoy eating and drinking alcohol many that NEED to lose weight like you say still spend a ton on alcohol. Stopping drinking and spending 1/5th on a gym membership also saves them money. Don't guilt great content creators its beyond ridiculous. They didn't make that person obese and much of their advice that is free like fasting will help them.
I walked across Spain twice and Japan once. 25 miles a day on average. 8 hours of walking daily, for a little over a month. I lost zero weight! Zero. With a pack on. Eating normal, local, meals. I lost zero weight walking. Zero. I wasn’t fat. But I had a little fat to lose and did not.
That's very interesting. I've lost 25% of my starting weight after going low carb without even trying. I'm a 67 year old lady and only do light hand weights and stretching and strengthening exercises / pilates due to back and knee issues, and have a fairly sedentary lifestyle. I never fasted and eat as much as I want (now eating a lot more meat). I was eating cheese and stopped at the start of this year due to it causing constipation and lost the last 4 kgs which brought me to my ideal weight which I haven't been since the late 1980s.
@ yeah, I thought walking 680 miles would make me lose weight. It didn’t. Mike here says walking is so effective in weight loss, I’m saying, in my 30s, when I walked 25 miles a day I didn’t lose weight, any of the times I did long distance walks. I broke even or even gained an lbs or two. I wasn’t fat then either. But I found walking to do basically nothing in terms of, “weight loss”. Felt great. That was years ago. I’m carnivore now mostly, 3 years, I don’t fluctuate weight at all.
@ I probably could’ve stood to lose 8lbs then. But Mike said in this podcast that walking was the best way to loose weight or something of that nature. I’m saying no it isn’t. Wasn’t the case in my life when I was in my 30s, healthy, and doing more walking than 99.999999% of the population. Didn’t lose any weight eating a normal local diet in Spain nor Japan. I’m one of those extremely ripped guys now. No drugs. It’s 100% diet. Been extremely ripped for years now, without trying. It’s all diet. Spent a lifetime working out and the fact of the matter is: you cannot out workout a non species specific diet. Doesn’t matter how good you think vegetables, chicken, and rice are, you won’t be ripped long without effort on that diet. I’m ripped now everyday of my life without trying.
@@mikeuptegrove Let's see. There is the concept of moderation. Walking that much is not moderation. Anything that is excess becomes stressful. And when one is stressed, no weight is lost.
At least 6000 years. NO. Only in very limited areas of the world was agriculture of any kind the dominant nutrition. Yes the Neolithc did reach Eurpoe at that time, but the establishment of that food tech and replacement of Pastolarism or hunting/gathering to dominance was post that period., and many ot our ancestors were still enjoying hunting for many a year beyond that time. Neolithic practices had reached much of Europe by 1000 BCE, but some remote areas, particularly parts of Scandinavia and the Baltic region, retained significant hunter-gatherer populations. Same can be said of Nother American, parts of South, New Guinea, Australia, SUb Sahara, Souther Africa etc.. In most cases we have only had mayne 200 generations to adapt to wheat, and only 1-4 generations to deal with modern food production methods.
A friend had fast occurring brain memory loss. She ate a clean organic fresh home made diet. She tested high in glutamate. She stopped eating almonds. Her memory came back. Almonds do effect your minerals.
Just getting set to watch your conversation with Mike MUTZEL. Been following Mike for years…..it’s gonna be another REAL GOOD podcast Thanks a lot Jesse👍💥 😃…..got me at the start…SOURDOUGH BREAD ..🤤🤤🤤drool !!!
Why would seasonal food selection apply to your current location. Shouldn't it apply to your ancetrial roots and location within the world, where your digestion and microbiom would have originated from? How would it be appropriate to feed an immigrant from south africa root vegetables in the winter while living in Canada. Just because they moved there doesn't mean their body automatically adjusts to the local natural foods. So, what do we do?
I would imagine a blend would be required, since you’d be consuming and breathing , therefore inoculating yourself with locals bacteria/fungus etc which then changes microbiome, which is integral in not only how one digest food, but also impacts production of immunity , neurotransmitters and hormones. So to use exclusively only historical, or only new location foods, would be a mistake, as they don’t allow for the changes of the circumstances and or genetics.
Because of the light environment and light signal has a lot to do with how we handle food, especially carbohydrates. Also eating locally and as close to nature as possible and whatever location you’re in is best if something doesn’t grow in that area and has to make it a long way to get there it’s gonna be really low and nutritional value as fruits and vegetables lose nutritional value really quickly.
Your body adjusts mostly. But many are so weak they can’t handle anything. My body has adjusted to many different foods bc I moved. Takes a couple weeks. Just like adapting to temperatures/climates. We adapt. People who don’t adapt…..die or live very weak existences.
I'm super skeptical about fermentation, and yogurt. Dairy. I tried kefir, and became suididally depressed. It took about 2 weeks after stopping it, to return to normal again.
Yes, we all have to find what works for us. I've had to stop eating tomatoes (hives) and mushrooms (runny nose and sneezing a lot during the night which affected my sleep). Also cheese which causes constipation. Nuts too which cause my RUQ pain. Thankfully because I am metabolically healthy now and eating limited low carb with a lot of meat it is usually noticeable when I eat something which my body doesn't like.
I don’t think it’s the kefir. Sometimes if we are obsessed. We can lose our minds. Create symptoms out of fear. Happens a lot. Nocebo. If people can get wasted on drugs for 2 weeks and not be depressed. Eating raw kefir def won’t.
It's fine to speculate about fruits and sourdough - except if a person is/was a carb addict. I'm not chancing it. Bread was killing me. Bread that's maybe - maybe - a wee bit better is too likely to just re-addict me. I'm gonna pass on this.
I feel the same way. Whenever I see the wonderful looking donuts and cakes and fancy breads all I can think of is: that's all carbs and therefore sugar and therefore not good for me. Carbs are just joined molecules of glucose which the body breaks down. I only learned that after starting low carb.
You can make it a point to understand which methodology shows stronger evidence. For example, randomised sampling of participants is better than the typical population or observational studies. A double blind study over a period of time is even better.
Erythritol doesn't upset the stomach. You're not supposed to take in huge amounts at once. Your body needs to adjust to it. The body itself produces erythritol as a byproduct when it's processing sugar/glucose. Therefore, "scientists" claim: "erythritol bad, because people with high glucose intake live unhealthy because of erythritol production". Which is nonsense of course, it's sugar which is the unhealthy choice. Combine it with monk fruit sugar and mix it yourself, it's way cheaper that way, readily mixed product is very expensive. You don't need that much for sweetening food and drinks. You can bake with it.
Sounds like this chap is not really low carb (fruits are just pure sugar). He eats bread, what about the hybridised wheat? The wheat itself has changed so much. It really doesnt agree with me (sourdoug, homemade or not). If he ups bread when he's going to be physically active, his body is running on glucose, not fat. Not ideal.
Sour dough with refined bread surely qualifies itself out of healthy eating….whole wheat and ideally sourced from a healthy wheat variety and sourced where it’s not poisoned in the growing process ?? The source of our food is so important surely ?
Exactly! ! So many more factors to consider. Like heirloom varieties, that are organic, and contained and transported not in plastic etc etc radiation bla bla . People want simple, but we’ve spent decades adulterating food. It’s not a simple answer. But trying to reduce toxic load will still help.
Irradiated Almonds? Go figure. I'm sure that herbs and spices from overseas are also irradiated Unless labelled Organic. I usually buy local greenhouse herbs labelled as Organic.
It seems to me Mike has changed the narrative to fit his diet wants and needs, not because it's actually ancestral, like he purports. Kinda reminding me of saladino, who changed his whole game because he's a carb addict who can't give them up, so he wrapped bullshit around fruit and honey to justify his own weakness and deficiencies. I stay open, but my BS meter is dinging❤
IS it just me, or does this Guy sound like he is Deeply trying to rationalize eating the Taboo of the Health Movement he has subscribed to for many years...
@@Rileyed It just sounds like he is literally trying to convince himself that eating bread is O.K. And honestly I don't mean that it is bad for everyone or anyone. I just think he feels guilty deep inside for his new love affair with Gluten. I don't blame him he may have went 10 years without a Slice of Bread. I wonder if the combo of fermenting and sprouting and sourcing the non GMO Wheat might be the ticket. You can even make it from sprouted grains and then Dehydrate it at 108 Degrees instead of Bake it.
@ I eat bread sometimes. I think if we eat it with other foods it’s not so bad. Each man his own. My stomach like bread(I’ll eat ezekiel bread with butter); but I gain fat every time. I guess I am lucky. I eat all foods and no issues. I don’t get the bread scare. Just don’t over do it and eat the good breads.
Bro is another Saladino but I like him more at least but no eating sourdough is not the answer, just because you are able to tolerate more carbs doesn't make them good or healthy
Humans are far older than the use of "processed" grains. The grains/veggies/fruits/milk/products even our water is ultra processed or even our "factory grown protein" with man modified everything. Enen mike sells highly processed vitamin supplements. One day the "seed vault", which has the original seeds will become holy grail of our world.
Stumbling over cognitive dissonance. Thinks need to have breads and carbs which glycate proteins. All these years and still can’t get it. Just like Saladino
@ The science is clear. Carbs damage your cells, it’s called glycation, we test for it A1c. And it will lead To vascular damage - diabetes and possible amputation. We don’t need an answer. We just need to eat food that are bodied are Designed for and have been doing since humans existed. This so called confusion is new because the food industry has confused you
This idea that you need carbs for performance in the gym is a pure Cope. You do NOT need carbs to perform better or longer. You just need to eat more fat and protein.
You and I probably belong to a subset of people who don't secrete endocanabinoids during exercise. I once tried to explain that doing a workout just felt like total body nausea and NO it isn't associated with exercise intensity and it doesn't improve over time, with more practise
How come no one uses the word variety ?? It truly fits much better than diversity....Sorry im one who does not care for all these buzz words... Lets go back to the words that are proper and are true explanations.
Mike Mutzel is not a scientist; he’s an entrepreneur with degrees in biology and clinical nutrition who has capitalized on health and wellness content through his brand "High Intensity Health." While he has training in nutrition, he doesn’t conduct scientific research. Instead, he blends selectively chosen information with appealing narratives to promote his products and ideas. This approach can be problematic, especially when he makes claims not rooted in strong scientific evidence. A key example is his assertion in 2021 that pathogens naturally evolve to become less dangerous-a statement that was widely debunked by experts. Scientific research shows that pathogens can evolve to become even more virulent, and assuming otherwise is misleading and potentially harmful, especially when it downplays real health risks. The fact that Mutzel’s focus is on brand-building rather than scientific accuracy should raise concern for anyone seeking credible health advice. For anyone serious about health, it’s essential to rely on sources rooted in rigorous science, not marketing tactics and unvetted claims.
You are incorrect. I studied under some of the top microbiologists in the world. You don’t understand basic stuff and calling someone out. You have never gone to school and trying to be an expert by reading online. You can’t skip fundamentals.
He didn’t say that??? He said, in summary, that fasting is far more effective on fitter individuals, because exercise helps the body’s efficiency. How did you get that so twisted?? He even said he fasts himself?
Fasting.... sets you up for Exercise. After a fast your Glycogen reserves are low (or gone)... so exercise afterwards will be burning fat and ketones. That's our native condition. Muscles are more energy efficient burning fats.
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Thanks for watching this episode with Mike Mutzel! If you're finding it valuable, please let me know by hitting the LIKE button on the video. I really appreciate the support 🙏 -Jesse 💙
It's 58° outside my house is always 10 degrees cooler I have I had on ,n a sweater.did my resistance bands, 15 minutes twice a day on my mini trampoline.few times a day stairway (snacks) traveled 9 countries this year with a backpack 🎒🎒 only!! I am 65 !! Had breast cancer 15 years ago!! Great conversation guys ❤❤
Jesse as someone who has listened to health and wellness podcasts for 10+ years and has been following Mike and his work for as long I’d like to say thank you. Over the years a lot of podcasters have turned me off personally. Your style, your genuine interest in the topics, your ability to ask good questions and let your guests answer and finish thoughts without interrupting to show how much you know is so very welcomed and appreciated. You have a new subscriber and genuine follower because of your hard work, thoughtfulness and quality content. Best of luck on your continuous growth.
Well said, my friend, and I 100% concur. Jesse is brilliant 👏 ❤
So true. ❤❤❤Jessie👍Always a pleasure listening and learning from you
@@energeticsoulhealer888Except for the lack of punctuation. 🙄
I live in Bulgaria and bread was crippling my joints. I had to give it up.
Bread is poison to my body. I get terribly sick from bread (wheat).
@@dirkmoolman Me too with diverticulosis agonies, psorisis flares and a host of skin inflammations and gut aches! This is poorly informed at best! Autoimmunity in western world requires eliminating all the industrial toxins the FDA says is safe to consume, and yet look at the vast numbers of autoimmune illness in today's "modern' sick bloody world. Europe has protected their farmers food from Monsanto as they saw the devil coming. SO NO. this is bullshit here.
It's junk food for the long emergency of meat shortages. There was never enough meat to sustain cities.
Same and pasta
Crocked bulgarian government imports horrible grains from ucraine.
Clean eating is a must these days. Jesse your point on understanding the context of Mike's diet is very important. Whenever I travel outside the US my gut heals. The poisoning of US Food, especially meats and dairy must be considered! Even organic food is exposed to toxins! His experience is just that, his experience in Costa Rica.
I’ve never had as intense and noticeable healing as from the few extended dry fasts I did. I’ve been exercising all my life, yet that never made my old scar tissues disappear nor healed old injuries like dry fasting did
Interesting, how long did you dry fast for the scars?
Agreed, fasting is very misunderstood as to the range of benefits!
I just did my first dry fast, and it began so so soooo easy, but I only made it through to day 5. I did not sleep days 2,3 and 4, so that is what broke me. Until day 4, I wasn't thirsty, and had zero hunger all the way through. It was only thirst, but I think had I slept, I'd have made it 7 days, which was my goal (The Phoenix Protocol). Nothing weird has come out of me, no orange sludgey goo, no nothing. I lost about 9lbs, and that was right back on the day I re-fed and drank. Again, I've not noticed any benefits? I'm thinking the near infrared sauna I did for an hour daily for over a year may have gotten rid of most my toxins, so the dry fast benefits were kind of meh, but I don't know? I also cold plunge, do coffee mms enemas, and many other health hacks.
Please share your benefits, dry fast length, etc. I've done many fasts since 2007 when I did my first liquid-only 21 day juice fast. I'm going to do a 3 day dry fast every other week to see how that goes. Maybe I need to build up to 7 days. Or figure out how to sleep. I'm in love with sleep, and always have been. My sleep hygiene is on point, so when I couldn't sleep during the do fast, it really messed me up, grrrrr.
@@ianstuart5660I think dry fasting is dangerous
I like Hump-36, short and very healing. Google the document “ Explanations to dry fasting, Hump-36”. This is my favorite method. Wish you the best on your journey.
I'm Italian, lived in Spain,UK , USA. I had hypertension for 17 years and took two pills per day. Doctors..many told I was daughter of two hypertensed parents and inherited their geins. B.S.I also used to eat once a day so far. When I stopped all the flours I mean all. In less than 2 months my blood pressure was perfect. I'm 65 and so far I do not take any pill. I also had an open heart operation. ..all the flours contain carbohydrates..... potatoes and so on. Being from Milan I can tell we have the best food in the world,it's hard to stay away from pasta, bread,pizza . Thank god we don't drink sodas much. Due to our culture. Good luck to everyone and leave all the flours.
Almonds are high in oxylates. Not good for those with gut issues. If you have to have flour then coconut is better
I went low carb 3 years ago and started eating a lot of almond flour. After I learned that it was high in omega 6 I switched to coconut flour. When I made my waffles (savoury that I use as a substitute for bread because I can't have cheese/chaffles), I did notice a very mild taste of coconut the first time I ate it, but after that I didn't notice it.
It seems there are a lot of people walking back their stance on purely animal based using arguments that don't make sense according to what they (or others) said before. I would assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, that we would be fermenting and using sourdough only as early as the agricultural revolution. If it's correct that we, according to the stable isotopes research, would be at least 80% carnivorous before that point in time it wouldn't make sense we'd be fermenting stuff. I can't imagine us collecting the ancestor of wheat when it wouldn't be easy to find in large quantities and it's seeds would be much smaller. Most records point to starchy tubers and fruits as a main source to fill that 20% from what I gather. The question is then if there would be enough time to evolve to thrive on (fermented) grains since we started eating them. It seems all these fermenting techniques are mainly used to make it less harmful. It seems these techniques were developed because we were forced to since our main food sources became scarce. Am I seeing this wrong?
I'm all for variety in my diet but I feel there's a lot of bending the science to fit the preferred conclusion. 🤷♂
Exactly, a whole lot of cherry picking going on!
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Yes if the wheat is used and sourdough bread is barely armless, if you gonna eat bread its got to be high % of sourdough
Always go back to Dr Weston Price: the indigenous tribes he studied had wide faces and perfect teeth (without toothpaste) until they moved to cities - then their offspring had narrowed jaws, crooked teeth, and dental caries.
If you look into stable isotope assessment of ancestral diets, the figures vary IMMENSELY, from 30% animal based to 90% animal based. The variation depends on where (geographically) the specimen is from, when (we can't tell if there was famine), and probably others. This allows spruikers to cherry pick to suit their agenda.
I follow Mike and still learned a lot in this talk! Thanks for bringing it to us Jessie. Doing all the keto, IF, HIIT, resistance training, sauna etc. actions and feeling healthier and stronger than when I was in my 20s, now 55.
Try going Carnivore & cinsume animal proteins only, ie Meats, fish, including bacon, eggs, cheese, butter 🥓 & by eliminating all grain products. Dr Peter Osborne's book: NO GRAIN, NO PAIN explains the many Gluten types and the inflammatory diseases it causes & exacerbates, including Arthritis, skin conditions, brain fog, fatigue ie Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia etc etc etc
You won't believe the ENERGY SURGE & mental clarity you'll have!!! My Fibromyalgia pains, fatigue and brain fog are reduced by 75-85% depending on the weather and other factors, activity level etc. Inositol longer need the 6 daily NSAIDS & opiates to manage the pain!
My Husband can hardly believe that he's got his youthful, energetic, go-getter wife back again & I'm in my 60's now, lol
I'm back to horseback riding, hiking, jeeping, gardening & socializing! Hallelujah!🎉😅
Regarding almonds, another thing: They are the nut highest in oxalates.
Oxylates are toxic to Mitochondria. You can only live with good health if your Mitochondria are Healthy & Vibrant.
I’m sure there are people who have problems with oxalates, but barring doing silly things (eating huge amounts/over time) I’d be surprised if oxalates are relevant for the majority of people.
@@Scottlp2I suspect that oxalates play a much larger role in arthritis, bladder pain, fibromyalgia, and atherosclerosis than we are aware of.
@Scottlp2 Have you never had or known people who've had kidney stones or any of the numerous issues that can come from oxalates? Never looked into the many foods that contain oxalates? Don't dismiss what you don't understand.
I had what I thought was arthritis from artificial sweetener in diet soda as well as too much sugar or bread. No arthritis with no diet soda and limited sugar and bread.
In holland kale is historically only eaten in winter after “frost went over it” as they say. It softens the fibre and might have other effects that make it better digestible.
In Italy people eat more seasonally, cause it is historically and culturally the norm.
High intensity is relative to each person's fitness level. It's important to honor one's baseline to prevent comparing one's intensity level reached to another person. Celebrate the change over time ...
I love this
Excercise is better than fasting?
Gary Taubes would say if you are going to an event or celebration where there will be lots of food. What do we do?
We go for a walk, or do some form of excercise to increase appetite.
So I feel its fasting that is better for me as an individual.
Well done Mike on bringing all the parts together and thank you Jesse for your works 🥩
37:00 he starts to get into diabetes and his knowledge of biology of that explained more than i have ever heard. Never get this knowledge from my doctor either...
Your doctor has almost zero nutrition education and mainstream nutritionists are taught things that benefit Big Ag and Big Pharma.
I would love the recipe for the sourdough bread that would be awesome Thank you
At 50:20 Mike Mutzel suggested using cold emersion therapy to lower glucose (and can't explain why this works but speculates why). This is actually just a limitation of the CGM sensor (false reading). When the sensor gets cold, it reports a lower value than you get with a pin prick test. Try just icing the sensor itself to see what I'm talking about.
Cold immersion therapy is extremely stressful. I think it's just a fad. Does Wim Hof look young for his age?
Mike Mutzel is forgetting that the ancient egyptians ate ancient organic wheat which they probably first sprouted and then made sour dough bread with. So they processed their grains properly, just like Bill Schindler says you should, but they had terrible health. Obesity, men had man boobs, coronary-artery disease, awfull teeth and cancer. Up to 75% of their diet consisted of bread. The peasants seldom ate meat.
Correct. Mummified bodies show dental caries and atherosclerosis.
And the peasants live in very poor health,
Not "probably", they DID sprout (or malt) their grains. Yes, still was a problem.
Forgetting the reduced life expectancy of the time
Well people can live in 90s these days on plant foods and polluted world we live in
He makes sense, common!
I've managed to cut out bread and haven't missed it. I make my own coconut flour waffles which each contain 1 extra large egg to use as transport for chicken or salmon for lunch at work 3 x per week. I very really eat them at home.
I don't live in a world of work meetings, zoom calls, standing desks, Garmin watches, and gym memberships. It doesn't matter how much of the science he understands, if all the strategies he comes up with are out of reach of the sections of the community that need them most
Then the sad truth is most people are just screwed. But anybody can walk. You can do burpees inside. You can also fast 20 hours a day which works you will lose 1-2 lbs per week doing that. Everybody is responsible for themselves.
@chrisdonnell2575 no. My point is, that all theYT interviews I've seen are utterly unrealistic and ex-clusive. Someone produce a perspective that speaks to the real lives of the sections of the population that need it most. Many of whom may not have the educational, intellectual or financial resources that you have.
@@cassieoz1702 What? Walking is free, burpees free, bodyweight squats free, pushups free, situps free, fasting actually saves money and is < free as you aren't eating and wasting $$ during that time.
The truth is everybody knows how to lose weight but has no discipline. They enjoy eating and drinking alcohol many that NEED to lose weight like you say still spend a ton on alcohol. Stopping drinking and spending 1/5th on a gym membership also saves them money. Don't guilt great content creators its beyond ridiculous. They didn't make that person obese and much of their advice that is free like fasting will help them.
I both fast and exercise.....but not at the same time 😊
I walked across Spain twice and Japan once. 25 miles a day on average. 8 hours of walking daily, for a little over a month. I lost zero weight! Zero. With a pack on. Eating normal, local, meals. I lost zero weight walking. Zero. I wasn’t fat. But I had a little fat to lose and did not.
That's very interesting. I've lost 25% of my starting weight after going low carb without even trying. I'm a 67 year old lady and only do light hand weights and stretching and strengthening exercises / pilates due to back and knee issues, and have a fairly sedentary lifestyle. I never fasted and eat as much as I want (now eating a lot more meat). I was eating cheese and stopped at the start of this year due to it causing constipation and lost the last 4 kgs which brought me to my ideal weight which I haven't been since the late 1980s.
@ yeah, I thought walking 680 miles would make me lose weight. It didn’t. Mike here says walking is so effective in weight loss, I’m saying, in my 30s, when I walked 25 miles a day I didn’t lose weight, any of the times I did long distance walks. I broke even or even gained an lbs or two. I wasn’t fat then either. But I found walking to do basically nothing in terms of, “weight loss”. Felt great. That was years ago. I’m carnivore now mostly, 3 years, I don’t fluctuate weight at all.
@@mikeuptegrovethat’s because your a carb addict which prevented any weight loss
@ I probably could’ve stood to lose 8lbs then. But Mike said in this podcast that walking was the best way to loose weight or something of that nature. I’m saying no it isn’t. Wasn’t the case in my life when I was in my 30s, healthy, and doing more walking than 99.999999% of the population. Didn’t lose any weight eating a normal local diet in Spain nor Japan.
I’m one of those extremely ripped guys now. No drugs. It’s 100% diet. Been extremely ripped for years now, without trying. It’s all diet. Spent a lifetime working out and the fact of the matter is: you cannot out workout a non species specific diet. Doesn’t matter how good you think vegetables, chicken, and rice are, you won’t be ripped long without effort on that diet. I’m ripped now everyday of my life without trying.
@@mikeuptegrove Let's see. There is the concept of moderation. Walking that much is not moderation. Anything that is excess becomes stressful. And when one is stressed, no weight is lost.
Wow. Thanks
At least 6000 years. NO. Only in very limited areas of the world was agriculture of any kind the dominant nutrition. Yes the Neolithc did reach Eurpoe at that time, but the establishment of that food tech and replacement of Pastolarism or hunting/gathering to dominance was post that period., and many ot our ancestors were still enjoying hunting for many a year beyond that time. Neolithic practices had reached much of Europe by 1000 BCE, but some remote areas, particularly parts of Scandinavia and the Baltic region, retained significant hunter-gatherer populations. Same can be said of Nother American, parts of South, New Guinea, Australia, SUb Sahara, Souther Africa etc.. In most cases we have only had mayne 200 generations to adapt to wheat, and only 1-4 generations to deal with modern food production methods.
A friend had fast occurring brain memory loss. She ate a clean organic fresh home made diet. She tested high in glutamate. She stopped eating almonds. Her memory came back. Almonds do effect your minerals.
Just getting set to watch your conversation with Mike MUTZEL. Been following Mike for years…..it’s gonna be another REAL GOOD podcast Thanks a lot Jesse👍💥 😃…..got me at the start…SOURDOUGH BREAD ..🤤🤤🤤drool !!!
Why would seasonal food selection apply to your current location. Shouldn't it apply to your ancetrial roots and location within the world, where your digestion and microbiom would have originated from? How would it be appropriate to feed an immigrant from south africa root vegetables in the winter while living in Canada. Just because they moved there doesn't mean their body automatically adjusts to the local natural foods. So, what do we do?
I would imagine a blend would be required, since you’d be consuming and breathing , therefore inoculating yourself with locals bacteria/fungus etc which then changes microbiome, which is integral in not only how one digest food, but also impacts production of immunity , neurotransmitters and hormones. So to use exclusively only historical, or only new location foods, would be a mistake, as they don’t allow for the changes of the circumstances and or genetics.
Because of the light environment and light signal has a lot to do with how we handle food, especially carbohydrates. Also eating locally and as close to nature as possible and whatever location you’re in is best if something doesn’t grow in that area and has to make it a long way to get there it’s gonna be really low and nutritional value as fruits and vegetables lose nutritional value really quickly.
@@napua5217nothing grows where I live, but cotton, haha. Good thing I'm carnivore, or I'd starve❤
@@energeticsoulhealer888 love that! Yes, if nothing grows, only animal foods is what should be eaten!
Your body adjusts mostly. But many are so weak they can’t handle anything. My body has adjusted to many different foods bc I moved. Takes a couple weeks. Just like adapting to temperatures/climates.
We adapt. People who don’t adapt…..die or live very weak existences.
I would like to know where he got that t shirt. ❤🎉👏🏽
I'm super skeptical about fermentation, and yogurt. Dairy. I tried kefir, and became suididally depressed. It took about 2 weeks after stopping it, to return to normal again.
Yes, we all have to find what works for us. I've had to stop eating tomatoes (hives) and mushrooms (runny nose and sneezing a lot during the night which affected my sleep). Also cheese which causes constipation. Nuts too which cause my RUQ pain. Thankfully because I am metabolically healthy now and eating limited low carb with a lot of meat it is usually noticeable when I eat something which my body doesn't like.
Sounds like it could have been moldy or bad??
I don’t think it’s the kefir. Sometimes if we are obsessed. We can lose our minds. Create symptoms out of fear. Happens a lot. Nocebo. If people can get wasted on drugs for 2 weeks and not be depressed. Eating raw kefir def won’t.
@AnalogFlava even moldy or bad shouldn't make me suicidal for 2 weeks
Summary please? Anyone?
Hand sanitizer and face masks and pop tarts, Lol!
Almonds are high in oxalate.
Fondue is great anytime of the year
Would love to see you interview Robert kennedy about vaccine damage as well as how our food is grown.
It's fine to speculate about fruits and sourdough - except if a person is/was a carb addict. I'm not chancing it. Bread was killing me. Bread that's maybe - maybe - a wee bit better is too likely to just re-addict me. I'm gonna pass on this.
I feel the same way. Whenever I see the wonderful looking donuts and cakes and fancy breads all I can think of is: that's all carbs and therefore sugar and therefore not good for me. Carbs are just joined molecules of glucose which the body breaks down. I only learned that after starting low carb.
@@jobrown8146like the Bible says….est a little honey it’s good for you……don’t eat too much honey or it’s bad for you. lol
I don't have much faith in studies nowadays tbqh
Yep!
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You can make it a point to understand which methodology shows stronger evidence. For example, randomised sampling of participants is better than the typical population or observational studies. A double blind study over a period of time is even better.
Me too!
Studies show most studies don’t show anything of value or are BS.
@@Iron-Bridgehave to use bayseon stats. They use conventional for most studies. Major issue in medicine.
Erythritol doesn't upset the stomach. You're not supposed to take in huge amounts at once. Your body needs to adjust to it. The body itself produces erythritol as a byproduct when it's processing sugar/glucose. Therefore, "scientists" claim: "erythritol bad, because people with high glucose intake live unhealthy because of erythritol production". Which is nonsense of course, it's sugar which is the unhealthy choice. Combine it with monk fruit sugar and mix it yourself, it's way cheaper that way, readily mixed product is very expensive. You don't need that much for sweetening food and drinks. You can bake with it.
It causes gas. Low dose = less gas. All of them need to be low dose. Once or 2 times a day. Or will ruin our gut.
Sounds like this chap is not really low carb (fruits are just pure sugar). He eats bread, what about the hybridised wheat? The wheat itself has changed so much. It really doesnt agree with me (sourdoug, homemade or not).
If he ups bread when he's going to be physically active, his body is running on glucose, not fat. Not ideal.
Sour dough with refined bread surely qualifies itself out of healthy eating….whole wheat and ideally sourced from a healthy wheat variety and sourced where it’s not poisoned in the growing process ?? The source of our food is so important surely ?
Exactly! ! So many more factors to consider. Like heirloom varieties, that are organic, and contained and transported not in plastic etc etc radiation bla bla . People want simple, but we’ve spent decades adulterating food. It’s not a simple answer. But trying to reduce toxic load will still help.
Irradiated Almonds? Go figure. I'm sure that herbs and spices from overseas are also irradiated Unless labelled Organic. I usually buy local greenhouse herbs labelled as Organic.
Bread is poor people food, just like rice. Or pasta. Its designed to fill peoples stomachs, but has very little nutrition. And it's cheap.
I use Mike’s products!
It seems to me Mike has changed the narrative to fit his diet wants and needs, not because it's actually ancestral, like he purports. Kinda reminding me of saladino, who changed his whole game because he's a carb addict who can't give them up, so he wrapped bullshit around fruit and honey to justify his own weakness and deficiencies.
I stay open, but my BS meter is dinging❤
But fruit wants to be eaten and is easily digested. Then you go elsewhere and poop out the seeds and voila! the possibility of new habitat.
8:40 fermented grains
Everyone ignores the faster study which was a crossover control trial showing zero advantage to giving endurance athletes carbs it's all psychological
IS it just me, or does this Guy sound like he is Deeply trying to rationalize eating the Taboo of the Health Movement he has subscribed to for many years...
“Eating the taboo” you mean he has been deceived by every fad?
@@Rileyed It just sounds like he is literally trying to convince himself that eating bread is O.K. And honestly I don't mean that it is bad for everyone or anyone. I just think he feels guilty deep inside for his new love affair with Gluten. I don't blame him he may have went 10 years without a Slice of Bread. I wonder if the combo of fermenting and sprouting and sourcing the non GMO Wheat might be the ticket. You can even make it from sprouted grains and then Dehydrate it at 108 Degrees instead of Bake it.
@ I eat bread sometimes. I think if we eat it with other foods it’s not so bad. Each man his own. My stomach like bread(I’ll eat ezekiel bread with butter); but I gain fat every time. I guess I am lucky. I eat all foods and no issues. I don’t get the bread scare. Just don’t over do it and eat the good breads.
I'm a recovering, life-long carb addict and I can never put maple syrup on sourdough pancakes.
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Why eat any bread at all, sour dough is still processed 🤔
Phytic acid deactivate stomach acid.
Increase your respiration 🫁🫁🫁
What about virus?
How to kill virus?
Bro is another Saladino but I like him more at least but no eating sourdough is not the answer, just because you are able to tolerate more carbs doesn't make them good or healthy
If modern humans came out of Africa were the temperature is constant how is it that us humans today would be effected by temperature and diet?
Humans are far older than the use of "processed" grains. The grains/veggies/fruits/milk/products even our water is ultra processed or even our "factory grown protein" with man modified everything. Enen mike sells highly processed vitamin supplements.
One day the "seed vault", which has the original seeds will become holy grail of our world.
Spunds like someone who talks about the benefit of low carb has decided he misses his bread.
Its not an optimal food, so why bother.
Erythritol upside my stomach so much.Just little And I can't go outside.I have diarrhea and cramps.Its not good at all.
Bromide is not allowed by the European government in flour
Stumbling over cognitive dissonance. Thinks need to have breads and carbs which glycate proteins.
All these years and still can’t get it. Just like Saladino
That's exactly what I said. Both he and saladino changed their narrative to fit their carb addictions.
@ oh sorry I didn’t see that. I’m sorry
Everyone thinks they have the answer. But here's the thing: NO ONE does. And every body is different.
@ The science is clear. Carbs damage your cells, it’s called glycation, we test for it A1c. And it will lead
To vascular damage - diabetes and possible amputation. We don’t need an answer. We just need to eat food that are bodied are
Designed for and have been doing since humans existed. This so called confusion is new because the food industry has confused you
You mentioned 9000 steps why this number?
French eat more sour products. French bread, chees, wine. French paradox!
This idea that you need carbs for performance in the gym is a pure Cope. You do NOT need carbs to perform better or longer. You just need to eat more fat and protein.
Nothing works better than Fasting for Regeneration 🤞
Exercise has never improved my mood or my feeling of wellbeing in fact the reverse !
You and I probably belong to a subset of people who don't secrete endocanabinoids during exercise. I once tried to explain that doing a workout just felt like total body nausea and NO it isn't associated with exercise intensity and it doesn't improve over time, with more practise
Don’t eat and that’s it 😂
Right! Meat can kill you, meat will heal you, vegetables are poison, vegetables are all we need! Help!
And only inhale through your left nostril after 10:23am on the Third Tuesday in years that end in an even number!
It really is. There are more and more breatharians in the world. But eating is an enormous pleasure for most of the world. So there you go.
Thank u for the very good advice
However it seems like he's visually aged significantly in the past year😬🤔
That's what addiction does, especially carb addiction. Sugar ages you from the inside out.
How come no one uses the word variety ?? It truly fits much better than diversity....Sorry im one who does not care for all these buzz words... Lets go back to the words that are proper and are true explanations.
NOOOO! Siete is now owned by Pepsi?? 😫
What is this world coming to??? So disappointing!
Mike Mutzel is not a scientist; he’s an entrepreneur with degrees in biology and clinical nutrition who has capitalized on health and wellness content through his brand "High Intensity Health." While he has training in nutrition, he doesn’t conduct scientific research. Instead, he blends selectively chosen information with appealing narratives to promote his products and ideas. This approach can be problematic, especially when he makes claims not rooted in strong scientific evidence.
A key example is his assertion in 2021 that pathogens naturally evolve to become less dangerous-a statement that was widely debunked by experts. Scientific research shows that pathogens can evolve to become even more virulent, and assuming otherwise is misleading and potentially harmful, especially when it downplays real health risks.
The fact that Mutzel’s focus is on brand-building rather than scientific accuracy should raise concern for anyone seeking credible health advice. For anyone serious about health, it’s essential to rely on sources rooted in rigorous science, not marketing tactics and unvetted claims.
You are incorrect. I studied under some of the top microbiologists in the world. You don’t understand basic stuff and calling someone out. You have never gone to school and trying to be an expert by reading online. You can’t skip fundamentals.
While I love exercise, 1 cup cake is equivalent to half an hour of running. This makes zero sense.
It's like he tries to justify again and again why he eats bread. Relax and eat whatever you want.
Maybe huge problem,,,,,,,, 2 hour podcast,,, really. Maybe figure out a way to get your point across a little more succinctly
Oh yet another health guru.....😮
It appears so
Of course, TOP EXPERTS coming out from everywhere!
😂😂
Mike's been around for a Decade.
Yes Europe is getting obese
Don’t agree with the premise that fasting isn’t necessary if you exercise. That depends on the person and is poor advice in my opinion
He didn’t say that??? He said, in summary, that fasting is far more effective on fitter individuals, because exercise helps the body’s efficiency. How did you get that so twisted?? He even said he fasts himself?
Fasting.... sets you up for Exercise. After a fast your Glycogen reserves are low (or gone)... so exercise afterwards will be burning fat and ketones. That's our native condition. Muscles are more energy efficient burning fats.
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