Preordered the day they were available. Wasn't sure until I tried out a demo with a Sony rep. After that I sold my A7rii kit and took a big hit :-). Who cares, the 30th can't come soon enough!
@Justin Candler: yeah, the lenses are big, but people (including me) want same or better performance than their old dslr and unfortunately Sony can't defy physics with the lenses. But with Sony we at least have the option to throw on a small prime like the 55 f/1.8 for a light setup. Or you can go with lighter f/4 zooms.
I bought A7Rii 3 months ago as it was nearly 1.5k cheaper than A7Riii in Australia. All I can say, A7Rii has some obvious flaws but the image quality you get out of it is pretty amazing!
Guys just get an A7Rii with a battery grip and two extra batteries and stop being gear heads. I've made so much money off this setup in my career for photo and video doing big commercial advertising work. It's insane how much people are driven to consume by these companies. In 18 months people will be rushing to sell their A7Riii before the value drops when the next model is announced...
Dan! literally got these stills and video from Jared Polin. The video where he displayed these images/video came directly from his video entitled "Sony a7R III Real World Review (vs Nikon D850)" at about 30 minutes in. And, it's nothing worse than it's opposite. Just be straight up and fully disclose. People are on RUclips seeking guidance and help. Do your own real shooting, please. SMH
Sidney Black i bought an A7 II about 2 years gap. The A7R II was too expensive. I never had any issues with the A7 II Workflow and the limitations on ISO and AF and burst speed were never important. With the A7R III on the market it definitely is Wirtz upgrading tot he A7R II now. Used price in Europe for a really nice piece is maybe 1200€ or if you do not need support there are Asian grey market imports brand new for 1300€. Will go for a well maintained used and be happy for years again. Maybe I will get an A7R III when the IV is on the market for a few months, maybe I will wait for the V or VI. With the quality of cameras there is little need for upgrades since some years. Ok, i never Shot a video in my life and do mit intend to do so
I bought the Sony A7RII a little before the Sony A7RIII came out even though I knew that the Sony A7RIII might be on its way, but I was offered the Sony A7RII for a good price, and I thought it still was a good camera and that the price suited me better! I'm not professional so the two SD cards do not mean much to me, and I'm also fine with the slightly worse autofocus for my kind of photography, and I'm also using a battery grip so the battery life is also ok for me. I'm still happy with my Sony A7RII, and have not regretted my purchase! Many greetings from Denmark
My a99 has 2 sd cards and once I got both of them to work simultaneously it really slowed the camera down and I had to go back to using one or the other so I wouldn't lose any shots waiting for the buffer to clear. The fear we all have if having a card go bad. I have been fortunate and had that happen only once in the last 10 years
I have one on order. I have already traded in my A7R2, which I loved, but the new features address many of my issues. A pro for 40 years, i switched to Sony from Canon in January. Have Sony and Sigma lenses (with MC-11 adapter) and also an A6500 as a second body.
I’ve used both professionally and I say absolutely upgrade. The difference in quality is slight but it’s there. Pixel shift for product photography, 120fps in 1080 (finally) but really this is a quality of life upgrade moreso than anything else. R2 users will recall the frustration of shooting with autofocus and the dread of looking into that battery percentage corner (oh god, so I have at least 3 fully charged batteries for this gig??) This upgrade was the best choice I’ve made in a while. Very interested to see where they take it with the SIII though 👀
Better skin tones!?!! I have to respectfully disagree. Putting a capture of 3:18 in davinci, (although you can tell without even putting it into davinci), if you try to use the hue vs hue to correct the skin tones to match, the a7riii completely goes green if you try to match the 7rii. Not only is the skin of the a7riii slightly underexposed, but just look at the hands touching the door. She looks like a zombie on the a7rii! we need a much more controlled environment to determine this.
Does this sony a7r3 have the ridiculously annoying dim screen when shooting 4K video that the a6300 / a6500 and a7r2 all had? (Basically unusable outdoors as the screen dims so much in that mode) ? Let me know asap. Cheers!
Does the R3 handle Metabone to Canon adapted lenses better than the R2? I had some major issues that a firmware did help, but, still sometimes issues happen, like the settings changes or weird electronic issues changing canon to manual...there is a number of times I have to turn off and back on. I have had a issue with the card slot, and usb port that I needed to repair for $800. Is there a A7R4 coming up, now that we are mid 2019??
The R3 does handle the adapters better than the R2 but it's still not perfect and very dependent on the lens. It's also just about useless for video autofocus. I doubt we will see an A7R4 until end of 2020 at best. With the firmware updates and the lack of an A7S3, that signals that the R series is a little while away.
@@learningcameras Thanks for the response Dan!! I'm glad to hear there is an improvement. Also, my mount was a little on the sloppy side with some play. Hopfully R3 has that fixed. (I use the Metabones4 adapter)
+Matt WhoisMatt Johnson hahaha... Maybe a bit premature. I'd love to see a flip screen (not holding out hope), 4k 60, 10 bit at least over hdmi, unlimited recording, and all the upgrades from this camera but we'll see.
Coming from an A7ii would you recommend an A7rii or and A7riii? I use my A7ii for travelling and street photography, but when I do weddings and events I use canon (not my own gear). Which do you suggest?
+Ari Stones the a7riii is good enough for weddings and events now so I would get that. Plus there are still plenty of improvements for general traveling / street use but the a7rii is not ideal for weddings/events but the 3 will handle it perfectly
Thanks for solidifying my decision. I was already leaning towards the A7riii. I’ve preordered today, but we’ll see how the backorder progresses. So if it can handle events and weddings then I’m sure I won’t be upgrading for a long time & just focus more on expanding my native lenses. Cheers
3:15 to me the A7RII image quality overall is much better than A7RIII. More dynamic range and brighter. Where the other one is darker and looks more washed out.
120fps quality vs a7s ii? also 120fps in low light quality? lastly for really good 120 fps do you really need to be in ff mode? cuz I'm thinking about selling my a7s ii and getting this, but mostly so I can use super 35mm cinema glass. if aps-c mode 120fps is pretty weak than that would throw a wrench in my plan . thanks for your reply.
I definitely wouldn't sell the a7SII for this unless you are also big on photos and looking for more of a hybrid option. I'm sure we will have an a7SIII in the next 6 months so I would just hang tight!
Worth it !! Amazing Hybrid Cam Nowadays, nobody want to buy Thick Mobile Phone, And almost nobody want to buy Thick DSLR Camera, _Unless you were a hardcore pro photographer_
thank you for the info Dan. How is the focusing in the dark ? ( Dance floor ) Also is the viewfinder evf the same size as the previous one ? Does it compare to the size of a pro level full frame dslr camera? Last time I tried the A7rii I was put off not by the evf but by the small size of it. Keep up the good work!
I'll do more testing soon when I have it in studio but it was great out there. We did some night astro shooting and I was focusing in near dark just as good as my 5D4 although my subjects were mostly stationary. The viewfinder is better than the RII and just like the A9. Compares well to the 5D4 but the D850 is massive so not that big.
George the size isn't important, the quality of the image making is what counts. I switched from my bigger Canon DSLRs to Sony in January, and will never go back, and I have large hands.
Thank you Gerald, and if I was shooting something other than weddings I would care about having the best possible image quality. Since I do what I do, I NEED a viewfinder that makes my eyes comfortable.
Great review! Still a little confused about the rolling shutter. Was this happening in single shot silent mode, too, or just continuous? Asking because silent mode was the big selling point for me (over the D850).
+Seth Cashman the silent mode on this will have less rolling shutter than the D850 in silent mode but you can see it in fast moving objects. Not portraits or landscapes though. If you really want to use silent mode for everything, only the Sony A9 used a stacked sensor to improve read times and reduce rolling shutter to virtually nothing
I would definitely consider either getting the RIII or if you can't afford it, I would absolutely get the A7III over the A7RII. There were just a bunch of huge updates that came with the 3rd deg cameras
Hi sir, thanks for the video. I have a question please, Can we charge the battery By data cable without removing from the camera body. am asking for Sony A7 ii.
We need more features for older models via firmware, like new color science, slog 3 etc. And I still don’t get why Sony doesn’t just change the hinge on the rear display to flip out then articulate not just tilt. Otherwise this camera is near flawless.
For these, I just used the standard profile. I usually use a natural profile for my own work and rarely shoot log. Yes, I use Lumetri for mild color grading for these and I will often use a Lut for my personal stuff but rarely for reviews
I was told you can make timelapses with the camera that get transformed into a video automatically. Maybe you can check the settings again. I have this info from a Sony trainer. So maybe, just the app is not working anymore, but you can still automatically create timelapses.
+simonbolzdotcom you can't. What you can do is undercrank 1080p video by shooting fast motion at 1fps which will seem like a timelapse when sped up but is not what we want. But it's only 1080p video, doesn't record a jpeg/raw image, and you don't have full shutter speed control like when using intervalometers
If quality is all that matters (landscapes/portraits) and money is a concern, get the a7RII. But the shooting experience, features, dials, autofocus, and battery life were so much better on the a7RIII, you will probably want to upgrade. If you are shooting any live events like weddings/sports, you will absolutely need the a7RIII
+adam o technically the a7riii is better quality and has better features but ergonomics, lenses, cost... Those are important to think about. A good lens collection for the Sony will cost at least $1000 more than on Canon
I had a friend lend me his a7r III for a week so I could compare it to my a7r II . For my purposes, which is honestly more still images than video. i can't justify the $650 price difference (current prices) for the minor upgrade. I did like the image stabilization but I have no way of testing the claim of 6 f-stops. It seems a bit generous. and going from A mount to E the cost of adding a new lens system is really adding up
but seriously though.. for the average consumer of which this video probably targets, it is really worth $800-1000 over the A7R2? In Hong Kong where I am the A7R2 is now as cheap as HK$15,850 (US$2,030) on the shelves compared to the A7R3 at HK$26,990 (US$3,450)
Not from a quality perspective obviously so you can still get the same quality on the RII. But if this camera is your daily driver, I really think the usability has improved to the point that it makes a HUGE difference. Plus I skipped Sony for my wedding cameras for so long because I needed dual SD cards so the RIII is a must for me. Also if you shoot moving subjects and not landscapes/portraits I would HIGHLY recommend the upgraded focus system/frame rate. Unless you are a landscape photographer, I'd probably upgrade.
thanks for your thoughts and you're probably right but I'm purely a consumer (non-pro) and as such have just pulled the trigger and upgraded by old A7R for an A7R2. The 3 is tempting but I really can't justify - maybe when the 4 or 5 comes out i'll upgrade to the 3!
Great video! I was happy to see some of the things that I was hoping for. The focus tracking of a moving towards the camera subject looks improved a lot. I am judging from the cowboy seria of shots. That was a major issue with the 7r2. I think that for all the people that were using DSLR and A7r2 now there is an option to let go the DSLR :).
In the UK its £700 difference between the A7Rii and A7Riii. I think for the extra money it's better to go for a7R3 since all the better improvement. I'll wait till next summer before my trip to buy one.
It's probably not worth it. I talked about it in the full review and showed an example. You can see a difference but only when viewing at 200%+, there is a huge chance for error given that it is multiple shots and any subject/camera movement will destroy it, and there are so few times where you can use that kind of shooting with multiple shots anyway.
You're definitely right about people holding off and waiting for Sony to give them a reason to switch. The lack of fully articulating touch screen is my deal breaker here unfortunately.
+Marticulate it's tough with video especially for gimbal use but for photographers, I wouldn't call it a deal breaker. Plus the 5d4 doesn't have any articulated screen and the D850 doesn't flip out either so is there a better option?
Yes, you can overheat these but they do have an option to let them get hotter before shutting down. Direct sunlight is your enemy. Usually takes at least 30 minutes of 4k video shooting in direct sun before they overheat but it really depends
@@learningcamerasfor music videos thinking of an upgrade from 80d to A73 features but can't make my mind and as m on tight budget. Thanks for such a fast reply, really appreciate it. Love from india ❤️
@@learningcameras yah.. 90d is also great, but thinking of upgrading to budget full frame. M looking out for g85/ gh5 also for its video options, very confused at the moment. Thanks again so much 😊
I m also curious to know what happens when lets say I m in a dark scenario and I use off camera flash with slow shutter speeds. What kind of preview i get in this case ? I see an underexposed viewfinder ? I understand most people do not need this but I face it in each and every wedding party over and over for hours at a time. The question is how those fancy mirrorless cameras stuck up to dslr competition? I have not seen a reviewer touching this BASIC matter.
It has a 'gamma' setting that make the viewfinder/monitor much brighter in dark scenes. I think that should do the trick. Note that this setting is different that the 'Effect settings ON'.
thank you Mick! I m still wondering what happens with the external flash. If I activate the gamma setting I will still have to check the images like a dslr and review them *after* capture. Kind of contradicting the mirrorless advantage I would guess.
Still happy with my a7RII I see no need to spend the money and upgrade, I'd rather put that towards glass. I'll wait til the next generation comes out and pick up the RIII. (PS the price difference between the RII and RIII is way more than "a couple hundred dollars" lol)
The price difference now is completely different to what it was years ago. Yeah, the A7RII has taken a nose dive in value since the A7III came out and basically wiped it out
I hope Sony sells a lot of A7R3, so they may comecup with a FW for the A7R2...! I bought an A7R2 two months ago and, coming from an A7II ( which I still enjoy ), I'm liking very much the A7R2. I only wish a FW could fix the overexposure, usually now I keep the dial set to -1 EV all the time!!!
It's massive because it makes the camera now accessible and perfect for many pro users that absolutely need this ability. It's a huge convenience for about everyone but to many it's a must have and to me it is the main reason I never purchased the A7rii
@@learningcameras The MAIN reason'???? WHAT?Help me understand....you never purchased the A7r2 because,,,,,it did not have 2 card slots??? Please, and im serious, can you tell me how may times during a shoot a card just completley failed on you? be honest! Never in 5 years of shooting has it happened to me
@@jal2550 had one card go bad at a wedding with the A7III. Had dual cards so no worries. Had another card give me an error and had to stop shooting it but the images were still there. Just a single corrupt image. But there are more reasons I need dual cards other than redundancy. I often have 2nd shooters and it's great to have 1 card for me and allow them to take the 2nd card home with them...things like that. Plus the bigger battery, better controls, autofocus improvements...those were all huge
Should I buy A7R2 or Nikon D750, very much confused :( , I didn't try mirrorless yet. Any one recommend to buy mirrorless instead of DSLR ? Till now I am shooting with D7200 with zoom and wide angle lens.
I would highly recommend the A7III over the A7RII and probably go with the A7III over the D750. Nothing wrong with the D750 but it's older and simply can't keep up with the newer Sony.
Neck and neck with quality. If you love the viewfinder and the more traditional style of photography, the D850 is great. But once you turn on live view, video, or silent mode, things start to fall apart and the A7RIII starts looking really good. Plus the D850 is REALLY heavy by comparison with a 24-70 F2.8 attached and much taller. I found it didn't fit well in my backpacks and personally I'm beginning to try to lighten my load so I appreciate how small I can make the a7RIII kit but that's more subjective as you may want a bulky camera with huge grip and the a7RIII requires the battery grip for that and still get's tight with big lenses. Also to get the high speed frame rates on the D850 you need to spend $1000 more on battery grips and D5 batteries and XQD cards. Also if you use lenses longer than 200mm often, you might have a tough time with the Sony lens lineup...at least until next year when more become available
Dan Watson is sony more reliable? I have the a7 1st version and compared to nikon, sony a7 start up look unreliable. Sometime, i receive error when turn it on. Nikon on the other hand, it makes me feel like a real camera. How is the iso on d850 when the scene is completely dark and how is a7r3? Is color on a7r3 consistent at different exposure.
It's tough to know about reliability this early. Hopefully by the 3rd gen things are getting better but who knows. Of course Nikon has issued recalls over their shutter mechanism on almost every recent camera starting from the D600 (which I had) so I wouldn't act like they have a perfect record either. In fact, rather than fix the D600 they refused to acknowledge an issue and instead released the D610 which was the same camera with a new shutter. I think they eventually were forced to issue a recall but I suffered for it and several other cameras had issues. I'll be testing the other items more when I have the camera for a longer period.
You say you can save a few bucks by getting the R2 but it's literally $1,000 bucks cheaper. I wish you'd do a real value comparison given the street price difference.
Yeah, it went on a huge sale around black Friday and is still on it. Not sure if they will maintain that price though. From a quality perspective they are almost the same. The value is going be in real world use which for landscape photographers might be minimal but most others it will be well worth it. I shoot weddings and found the a7RII almost unusable without dual cards, better focusing, and decent battery life to name a few upgrades so the value is ABSOLUTELY there. But if you can live with imperfections in exchange for $1000 in savings, the quality is the same so the a7RII might be fine.
At the end of the day the Rii will still poop out arguably the best looking files you will see coming from anythang. That being said i sold a iv and kept my iii. Nothing beats the Riii
Still not sure why the customer should always be the one to pay for 'admitted improvements' - it kind of says 'we screwed up guys but hey, we get you to pay for it...' Not good. Not fair. Update the firmware and the operation to correct the stuff you'd did wrong, Sony. Don't expect your customers to have to buy a new camera every time.
+Ed Schirra I hear you but none of the big changes were firmware upgradable. Battery, more focus points, new shutter, dual cards, joystick, new video button, USB C... The only potential firmware upgrade is with video by oversampling. But even that might be relying to some extent on a new processor. I guess they could fix the menu system
Really bummed about no timelapse. Common Sony give us timelapse. My Canon 5Dlll has no timelapse. And for the last 5 years I've been wanting my next camera to have timelapse. Sony is supposed to be the company that gives us all the new technology. But even Canon now has built in timelaps. Common Sony. Give us timelapse in a firmware update right now. There is no excuse for this. I hope in your review you spend some time on the silent shutter. Can you shoot people walking. Or turning there head. What exactly are the limits of it without getting rolling shutter. You have my hopes up with what you said in this video.
No issues with silent mode for movement like that. The issue will be flickering lights and maybe whip pans. You saw there wasn't even a huge amount visible in the helicopter blades.
im sure the techy geeks will be rushing out to upgrade, good thing is if i do choose to switch there'll be plenty of excellent second hand systems out there at a decent price.
+J V I'd say it's way better for everyone other than maybe landscape photographers. But even they will appreciate the improved touch screen, evf, and battery life
>way better It isn't, the IV will be. It's an A7R II that is better for sports/wildlife, that's about it. Dual slots for peace of mind and better battery (not that battery was bad if you used airplane mode). Woo. I'll wait.
It's hilarious that Panasonic still kick their ass for IBIS and 4K video, in bodies less than 1/4 the price. Also, could you maybe say "Amazing" a couple hundred more times in your videos? .... seriously .... calm down on the over-the-top praise
Actually I personally owned the GH5 until the A7III came out and then switched to Sony a couple months ago but really not for the video and mostly because it also shoots better stills. My issues with the GH5 were low light and autofocus but it certainly had some killer features and quality which is why it was my go to for video. But when it comes to a hybrid shooter, the Sony is certainly amazing. As a pure video camera, I go back and forth between Sony and Panasonic as to which I like more
Yeah, the a7RII went on a big sale around black Friday and is still heavily discounted. It's actually a real steal at that price but the actual price still fluctuates between $2700-2900 and it was $2900 still when I filmed this review! Who knows if it will stay around $2300
Coming from a D810, I would highly recommend the RIII. Other than video (which would be a huge step up from the D810 even in the RII), the a7RII would come with some big negatives like no dual cards, iffy autofocus, crap battery life...things like that which could make the switch rough. But I think the a7RIII would be a good upgrade from the D810 especially if you want a smaller/lighter setup and are interested in video...and it's the same price as the D850 so no worries there!
DANG. I wish we could re-upload videos, add annotations, and fix mistakes. Sucks too because often companies do firmware updates that fix things we talked about in the review and we can't change anything
Sony, to me, seems to be a company that drips out features in a way to squeeze the most cash out of their customers. For example, Sony landed the 6300 and then 8 months later released 6500. The new Z battery is another example, I bet that you will very soon see the next 6500 with basically only the new z battery added ( sorry 6300/6500 owners, go get the new one). I am a Fuji shooter, and my 1.5 year old X pro 2 will soon have a firmware to add 4K video as well as other features. Fuji just seems to be doing everything right by the customers. Just my opinion,,, Thanks
Really depends on how you think about it. You could say that rather than hold on to new tech for the next 2-4 year cycle, they just add it to a new camera right away which gets new tech in our hands much sooner. But yes, I do wish they would do more with firmware updates for things like the updated menus, improving the buffer, improving AF algorithms, adding slog 3...stuff like that. Fuji & Panasonic do better with that. I disagree that they are squeezing cash out of their customers though because it's not like you HAVE to upgrade for any reason. Your a7RII is every bit as good today as it was 2 years ago when you bought it so there is no reason to upgrade except that you now have the OPTION to access even better features IF you want so I can't see how that is bad for the customer other than maybe lowering the resale value of older gear and giving us major gear envy lol
kdelage1 Sony is brilliant, rather than stick to Product Launch Schedules (conventional marketing, just like Canikon) They react to strong competitors, for example this A7Riii early launch (compared to A7mk iii) is Sony Counter Attack to Nikon D850. Now we are hoping Sony reaction to Panasonic G9. Possibly A6700..., it will be exciting Its never boring in Sony Alpha's world..
I don’t think it’s a money grab, Sony really is investing a ton of r&d into these cameras and they want a return on that investment. But I do agree they need to support older models with firmware updates. There’s no reason why we can’t have the new color science in the 6300, 6500, a7r2 etc, which would really help these camera bodies retain their value on the secondary market.
As Zac said, I don't understand this line of thought. Fuji's look, looks even more videoish than sony's in box settings. The compression/detail just looks horrible. I don't think Fuji cameras (in this price range) are even close to the sony lineup.
What do you guys think...worth the upgrade? Who has one on order!!!
Preordered the day they were available. Wasn't sure until I tried out a demo with a Sony rep. After that I sold my A7rii kit and took a big hit :-). Who cares, the 30th can't come soon enough!
Yes on pre-order.
Just got a mail from my camera store (in Norway) that my camera is shipped - Excited!
Awesome!!! Lucky...they are slow to ship in the US
@Justin Candler: yeah, the lenses are big, but people (including me) want same or better performance than their old dslr and unfortunately Sony can't defy physics with the lenses. But with Sony we at least have the option to throw on a small prime like the 55 f/1.8 for a light setup. Or you can go with lighter f/4 zooms.
I bought A7Rii 3 months ago as it was nearly 1.5k cheaper than A7Riii in Australia. All I can say, A7Rii has some obvious flaws but the image quality you get out of it is pretty amazing!
Guys just get an A7Rii with a battery grip and two extra batteries and stop being gear heads. I've made so much money off this setup in my career for photo and video doing big commercial advertising work. It's insane how much people are driven to consume by these companies. In 18 months people will be rushing to sell their A7Riii before the value drops when the next model is announced...
Nonsense, the A7R III is only a big upgrade for people doing wildlife/sports. I'll be waiting for a new sensor instead of wasting my cash.
Dan! literally got these stills and video from Jared Polin. The video where he displayed these images/video came directly from his video entitled "Sony a7R III Real World Review (vs Nikon D850)" at about 30 minutes in. And, it's nothing worse than it's opposite. Just be straight up and fully disclose. People are on RUclips seeking guidance and help. Do your own real shooting, please. SMH
Sidney Black i bought an A7 II about 2 years gap. The A7R II was too expensive. I never had any issues with the A7 II Workflow and the limitations on ISO and AF and burst speed were never important.
With the A7R III on the market it definitely is Wirtz upgrading tot he A7R II now. Used price in Europe for a really nice piece is maybe 1200€ or if you do not need support there are Asian grey market imports brand new for 1300€.
Will go for a well maintained used and be happy for years again. Maybe I will get an A7R III when the IV is on the market for a few months, maybe I will wait for the V or VI.
With the quality of cameras there is little need for upgrades since some years.
Ok, i never Shot a video in my life and do mit intend to do so
Facts
How is it got sports or moving subjects?
I bought the Sony A7RII a little before the Sony A7RIII came out even though I knew that the Sony A7RIII might be on its way, but I was offered the Sony A7RII for a good price, and I thought it still was a good camera and that the price suited me better!
I'm not professional so the two SD cards do not mean much to me, and I'm also fine with the slightly worse autofocus for my kind of photography, and I'm also using a battery grip so the battery life is also ok for me.
I'm still happy with my Sony A7RII, and have not regretted my purchase!
Many greetings from Denmark
My a99 has 2 sd cards and once I got both of them to work simultaneously it really slowed the camera down and I had to go back to using one or the other so I wouldn't lose any shots waiting for the buffer to clear. The fear we all have if having a card go bad. I have been fortunate and had that happen only once in the last 10 years
thansk for the comparison...there is a weird thing though...at min 3:00 iso 12800 on a7riii FF looks way worse than a7rii FF !!! what is that?
I have one on order. I have already traded in my A7R2, which I loved, but the new features address many of my issues. A pro for 40 years, i switched to Sony from Canon in January. Have Sony and Sigma lenses (with MC-11 adapter) and also an A6500 as a second body.
Gerald Williams
Mee toooo
how do the sigmas auto focus compared to native sony lenses? do they support eye af ?
I’ve used both professionally and I say absolutely upgrade. The difference in quality is slight but it’s there. Pixel shift for product photography, 120fps in 1080 (finally) but really this is a quality of life upgrade moreso than anything else. R2 users will recall the frustration of shooting with autofocus and the dread of looking into that battery percentage corner (oh god, so I have at least 3 fully charged batteries for this gig??)
This upgrade was the best choice I’ve made in a while. Very interested to see where they take it with the SIII though 👀
Better skin tones!?!! I have to respectfully disagree. Putting a capture of 3:18 in davinci, (although you can tell without even putting it into davinci), if you try to use the hue vs hue to correct the skin tones to match, the a7riii completely goes green if you try to match the 7rii. Not only is the skin of the a7riii slightly underexposed, but just look at the hands touching the door. She looks like a zombie on the a7rii! we need a much more controlled environment to determine this.
there are dead pixel on this video ... what about buying a used A7III ? or this sensor degradets with the time?
Is the eye AF working in movie video ?
"small details have changed" - "a massive, massive upgrade". Which is it now?
Great informative video Dan - thanks a lot for putting this together. It answered all the questions that I had!
good review ! one question is this the Red Rock Balloon Adventure you did ? where did you book that trip. .
$850 quesion is it Worth?
I’m planinng to upgrade from my 2014 a7R...help ;)
Get the 2.
A7rii still a good choice and cheap one. The yse same sensors
Does this sony a7r3 have the ridiculously annoying dim screen when shooting 4K video that the a6300 / a6500 and a7r2 all had? (Basically unusable outdoors as the screen dims so much in that mode) ? Let me know asap. Cheers!
Nope, both the A7III and A7RIII have a bright screen when shooting 4k
Hello man, I can’t buy iii but can buy ii, give me advice please, a7rii is it good? Thank you
Torn between this and the new Cannon. What do you guys think I should get?
Does the R3 handle Metabone to Canon adapted lenses better than the R2? I had some major issues that a firmware did help, but, still sometimes issues happen, like the settings changes or weird electronic issues changing canon to manual...there is a number of times I have to turn off and back on. I have had a issue with the card slot, and usb port that I needed to repair for $800. Is there a A7R4 coming up, now that we are mid 2019??
The R3 does handle the adapters better than the R2 but it's still not perfect and very dependent on the lens. It's also just about useless for video autofocus. I doubt we will see an A7R4 until end of 2020 at best. With the firmware updates and the lack of an A7S3, that signals that the R series is a little while away.
@@learningcameras Thanks for the response Dan!! I'm glad to hear there is an improvement. Also, my mount was a little on the sloppy side with some play. Hopfully R3 has that fixed. (I use the Metabones4 adapter)
This makes me really excited about an a7siii :)
+Matt WhoisMatt Johnson hahaha... Maybe a bit premature. I'd love to see a flip screen (not holding out hope), 4k 60, 10 bit at least over hdmi, unlimited recording, and all the upgrades from this camera but we'll see.
feels bad
@@learningcameras :)
@@timxu6631 feels good man
But it makes my pocket hurt
From 7:19 there´s a black line in the video in the left lower-center area, and my OCD coudn´t stand it
Coming from an A7ii would you recommend an A7rii or and A7riii? I use my A7ii for travelling and street photography, but when I do weddings and events I use canon (not my own gear). Which do you suggest?
Ari Stones
Dual card, autofocus and battery itself are worth the difference in price. And cameras ... always go latest.
+Ari Stones the a7riii is good enough for weddings and events now so I would get that. Plus there are still plenty of improvements for general traveling / street use but the a7rii is not ideal for weddings/events but the 3 will handle it perfectly
Thanks for solidifying my decision. I was already leaning towards the A7riii. I’ve preordered today, but we’ll see how the backorder progresses. So if it can handle events and weddings then I’m sure I won’t be upgrading for a long time & just focus more on expanding my native lenses. Cheers
When your talking about video quality on the A7Rii in Super 35 are you talking about 4K only or all video resolutions?
Talking about 4k. I didn't test it but both cameras should offer good quality crop modes in 1080p
Dan Watson okay, thanks!
3:15 to me the A7RII image quality overall is much better than A7RIII.
More dynamic range and brighter. Where the other one is darker and
looks more washed out.
Can you upload to Dropbox some straight out of the camera MP4 or mov files please both for 4K and 1080p ?
Sure thing, I will upload the 120fps and the low light results tonight and throw it in a link in the description!
120fps quality vs a7s ii? also 120fps in low light quality? lastly for really good 120 fps do you really need to be in ff mode? cuz I'm thinking about selling my a7s ii and getting this, but mostly so I can use super 35mm cinema glass. if aps-c mode 120fps is pretty weak than that would throw a wrench in my plan . thanks for your reply.
I definitely wouldn't sell the a7SII for this unless you are also big on photos and looking for more of a hybrid option. I'm sure we will have an a7SIII in the next 6 months so I would just hang tight!
thanks
It's not worth the upgrade if you're a casual or portrait photographer.
What about for shooting music videos and short films? Is that extra shutter speed worth it? (I'm a total beginner)
Worth it !! Amazing Hybrid Cam
Nowadays, nobody want to buy Thick Mobile Phone,
And almost nobody want to buy Thick DSLR Camera,
_Unless you were a hardcore pro photographer_
The 120fps full frame 1080p sample too, kindly upload.
thank you for the info Dan. How is the focusing in the dark ? ( Dance floor ) Also is the viewfinder evf the same size as the previous one ? Does it compare to the size of a pro level full frame dslr camera? Last time I tried the A7rii I was put off not by the evf but by the small size of it. Keep up the good work!
I'll do more testing soon when I have it in studio but it was great out there. We did some night astro shooting and I was focusing in near dark just as good as my 5D4 although my subjects were mostly stationary. The viewfinder is better than the RII and just like the A9. Compares well to the 5D4 but the D850 is massive so not that big.
George the size isn't important, the quality of the image making is what counts. I switched from my bigger Canon DSLRs to Sony in January, and will never go back, and I have large hands.
thank you ! :)
Thank you Gerald, and if I was shooting something other than weddings I would care about having the best possible image quality. Since I do what I do, I NEED a viewfinder that makes my eyes comfortable.
I understand George, you have to use what is comfortable for you. Cheers
Can i use oss lens in A7r2 even thou the camera has inbuilt stabilization,
Will it be more stable
Yes to both
I love the colors in your video. Are you using a LUTS or did you color grade and correct every clip?
Thank you. Mostly just using Adobe's color grading tools to grade every clip.
Great review!
Still a little confused about the rolling shutter. Was this happening in single shot silent mode, too, or just continuous?
Asking because silent mode was the big selling point for me (over the D850).
+Seth Cashman the silent mode on this will have less rolling shutter than the D850 in silent mode but you can see it in fast moving objects. Not portraits or landscapes though. If you really want to use silent mode for everything, only the Sony A9 used a stacked sensor to improve read times and reduce rolling shutter to virtually nothing
Great video, thanks
In 2021 you can now get the A7R2 around £800 or the A7R3 for £1500/£1600
which one do you buy?
I would definitely consider either getting the RIII or if you can't afford it, I would absolutely get the A7III over the A7RII. There were just a bunch of huge updates that came with the 3rd deg cameras
@@learningcameras thank you, much appreciated
Hi sir,
thanks for the video.
I have a question please, Can we charge the battery By data cable without removing from the camera body.
am asking for Sony A7 ii.
Only on the A7III I believe
We need more features for older models via firmware, like new color science, slog 3 etc. And I still don’t get why Sony doesn’t just change the hinge on the rear display to flip out then articulate not just tilt. Otherwise this camera is near flawless.
Can u tell me if u shot the videos with a Picture Profile? And did u grade using a Lut/Lumetri?
For these, I just used the standard profile. I usually use a natural profile for my own work and rarely shoot log. Yes, I use Lumetri for mild color grading for these and I will often use a Lut for my personal stuff but rarely for reviews
Did you say banding when looking at chopper blades?
Dan, have you shot with the D850? If so, comparisons?
Yep, I have it and did some side by side shooting with it, the 5D4, and A7rIII! I hope to have that done by the weekend
I was told you can make timelapses with the camera that get transformed into a video automatically. Maybe you can check the settings again. I have this info from a Sony trainer. So maybe, just the app is not working anymore, but you can still automatically create timelapses.
+simonbolzdotcom you can't. What you can do is undercrank 1080p video by shooting fast motion at 1fps which will seem like a timelapse when sped up but is not what we want. But it's only 1080p video, doesn't record a jpeg/raw image, and you don't have full shutter speed control like when using intervalometers
I have neither camera should I go straight to the a7R3 or just get the a7r2
If quality is all that matters (landscapes/portraits) and money is a concern, get the a7RII. But the shooting experience, features, dials, autofocus, and battery life were so much better on the a7RIII, you will probably want to upgrade. If you are shooting any live events like weddings/sports, you will absolutely need the a7RIII
Dan Watson thank you that’s a huge hint on which one to get I️ do a lot of live events
Please help, I should buy canon 5D mark IV or sony a7R III. Photos are more important to me.
+adam o technically the a7riii is better quality and has better features but ergonomics, lenses, cost... Those are important to think about. A good lens collection for the Sony will cost at least $1000 more than on Canon
I have a choice: Canon 5D Mark IV + 24-70 L 2.8 II or Sony a7R III + 24-70 2.8 GM. Not considering the money, wich you would choose?
Technically I just chose the a7R III because I just bought it and will be selling my 5D4!
Was a pixel off in the end?
The ii is about $1000 cheaper on the used market now... Seems like the ii is the way to go right now
Are these cameras recoomened for fashion?
The A7RIII would be great for fashion
I had a friend lend me his a7r III for a week so I could compare it to my a7r II . For my purposes, which is honestly more still images than video. i can't justify the $650 price difference (current prices) for the minor upgrade. I did like the image stabilization but I have no way of testing the claim of 6 f-stops. It seems a bit generous. and going from A mount to E the cost of adding a new lens system is really adding up
but seriously though.. for the average consumer of which this video probably targets, it is really worth $800-1000 over the A7R2? In Hong Kong where I am the A7R2 is now as cheap as HK$15,850 (US$2,030) on the shelves compared to the A7R3 at HK$26,990 (US$3,450)
Not from a quality perspective obviously so you can still get the same quality on the RII. But if this camera is your daily driver, I really think the usability has improved to the point that it makes a HUGE difference. Plus I skipped Sony for my wedding cameras for so long because I needed dual SD cards so the RIII is a must for me. Also if you shoot moving subjects and not landscapes/portraits I would HIGHLY recommend the upgraded focus system/frame rate. Unless you are a landscape photographer, I'd probably upgrade.
thanks for your thoughts and you're probably right but I'm purely a consumer (non-pro) and as such have just pulled the trigger and upgraded by old A7R for an A7R2. The 3 is tempting but I really can't justify - maybe when the 4 or 5 comes out i'll upgrade to the 3!
you got some permanent overlay spot on the video.
Great video!
I was happy to see some of the things that I was hoping for. The focus tracking of a moving towards the camera subject looks improved a lot. I am judging from the cowboy seria of shots. That was a major issue with the 7r2. I think that for all the people that were using DSLR and A7r2 now there is an option to let go the DSLR :).
Was'nt convinced. I'm a photographer, not that concerned with the video features.
That's no comparison, it's a sales speech for the A7Riii, justified sure but sales speech nonetheless..
In the UK its £700 difference between the A7Rii and A7Riii. I think for the extra money it's better to go for a7R3 since all the better improvement. I'll wait till next summer before my trip to buy one.
Thanks a lot for RAW files.
Great video Dan!
Silentwisher appreciate it!
Overheating issue?
4k limit?
+Meenakshi Jamdade no overheating issues on our test units which was great. The 4k limit is 30 minutes which every camera other than the gh5 has
I've been looking for someone to talk about pixel shift. That would be the primary reason I would upgrade.
It's probably not worth it. I talked about it in the full review and showed an example. You can see a difference but only when viewing at 200%+, there is a huge chance for error given that it is multiple shots and any subject/camera movement will destroy it, and there are so few times where you can use that kind of shooting with multiple shots anyway.
You're definitely right about people holding off and waiting for Sony to give them a reason to switch. The lack of fully articulating touch screen is my deal breaker here unfortunately.
+Marticulate it's tough with video especially for gimbal use but for photographers, I wouldn't call it a deal breaker. Plus the 5d4 doesn't have any articulated screen and the D850 doesn't flip out either so is there a better option?
Does it have heating issues
Yes, you can overheat these but they do have an option to let them get hotter before shutting down. Direct sunlight is your enemy. Usually takes at least 30 minutes of 4k video shooting in direct sun before they overheat but it really depends
@@learningcamerasfor music videos thinking of an upgrade from 80d to A73 features but can't make my mind and as m on tight budget. Thanks for such a fast reply, really appreciate it. Love from india ❤️
@@Anen_Aier So it would definitely be an upgrade but curious what kind of lenses you already have? The 90D is actually pretty amazing too
@@learningcameras yah.. 90d is also great, but thinking of upgrading to budget full frame. M looking out for g85/ gh5 also for its video options, very confused at the moment. Thanks again so much 😊
Thanks for the video.
I m also curious to know what happens when lets say I m in a dark scenario and I use off camera flash with slow shutter speeds. What kind of preview i get in this case ? I see an underexposed viewfinder ? I understand most people do not need this but I face it in each and every wedding party over and over for hours at a time. The question is how those fancy mirrorless cameras stuck up to dslr competition? I have not seen a reviewer touching this BASIC matter.
It has a 'gamma' setting that make the viewfinder/monitor much brighter in dark scenes. I think that should do the trick. Note that this setting is different that the 'Effect settings ON'.
thank you Mick! I m still wondering what happens with the external flash. If I activate the gamma setting I will still have to check the images like a dslr and review them *after* capture. Kind of contradicting the mirrorless advantage I would guess.
Still happy with my a7RII I see no need to spend the money and upgrade, I'd rather put that towards glass. I'll wait til the next generation comes out and pick up the RIII. (PS the price difference between the RII and RIII is way more than "a couple hundred dollars" lol)
The price difference now is completely different to what it was years ago. Yeah, the A7RII has taken a nose dive in value since the A7III came out and basically wiped it out
Would you go a7iii over the A7rii?
Yep!!! Absolutely...double yes if you shoot video too
@@learningcameras Cheers Dan👌🏻
I hope Sony sells a lot of A7R3, so they may comecup with a FW for the A7R2...! I bought an A7R2 two months ago and, coming from an A7II ( which I still enjoy ), I'm liking very much the A7R2. I only wish a FW could fix the overexposure, usually now I keep the dial set to -1 EV all the time!!!
Your viedos always crisp
You can use s&q for timelapse, 1fps...
If you don't mind 1080p with lower quality video, limited frame rate, and limited shutter options.
"dual cards are another Massive upgrade"....I don't think you understand what the word massive means, These 2 cameras are literally 95% identical.
It's massive because it makes the camera now accessible and perfect for many pro users that absolutely need this ability. It's a huge convenience for about everyone but to many it's a must have and to me it is the main reason I never purchased the A7rii
@@learningcameras The MAIN reason'???? WHAT?Help me understand....you never purchased the A7r2 because,,,,,it did not have 2 card slots??? Please, and im serious, can you tell me how may times during a shoot a card just completley failed on you? be honest! Never in 5 years of shooting has it happened to me
@@jal2550 had one card go bad at a wedding with the A7III. Had dual cards so no worries. Had another card give me an error and had to stop shooting it but the images were still there. Just a single corrupt image. But there are more reasons I need dual cards other than redundancy. I often have 2nd shooters and it's great to have 1 card for me and allow them to take the 2nd card home with them...things like that. Plus the bigger battery, better controls, autofocus improvements...those were all huge
No quality test???
I noticed some dead pixels on this video.
Should I buy A7R2 or Nikon D750, very much confused :( , I didn't try mirrorless yet.
Any one recommend to buy mirrorless instead of DSLR ?
Till now I am shooting with D7200 with zoom and wide angle lens.
I would highly recommend the A7III over the A7RII and probably go with the A7III over the D750. Nothing wrong with the D750 but it's older and simply can't keep up with the newer Sony.
how is a7r3 compared d850?
Neck and neck with quality. If you love the viewfinder and the more traditional style of photography, the D850 is great. But once you turn on live view, video, or silent mode, things start to fall apart and the A7RIII starts looking really good. Plus the D850 is REALLY heavy by comparison with a 24-70 F2.8 attached and much taller. I found it didn't fit well in my backpacks and personally I'm beginning to try to lighten my load so I appreciate how small I can make the a7RIII kit but that's more subjective as you may want a bulky camera with huge grip and the a7RIII requires the battery grip for that and still get's tight with big lenses. Also to get the high speed frame rates on the D850 you need to spend $1000 more on battery grips and D5 batteries and XQD cards. Also if you use lenses longer than 200mm often, you might have a tough time with the Sony lens lineup...at least until next year when more become available
Dan Watson is sony more reliable? I have the a7 1st version and compared to nikon, sony a7 start up look unreliable. Sometime, i receive error when turn it on. Nikon on the other hand, it makes me feel like a real camera. How is the iso on d850 when the scene is completely dark and how is a7r3? Is color on a7r3 consistent at different exposure.
It's tough to know about reliability this early. Hopefully by the 3rd gen things are getting better but who knows. Of course Nikon has issued recalls over their shutter mechanism on almost every recent camera starting from the D600 (which I had) so I wouldn't act like they have a perfect record either. In fact, rather than fix the D600 they refused to acknowledge an issue and instead released the D610 which was the same camera with a new shutter. I think they eventually were forced to issue a recall but I suffered for it and several other cameras had issues. I'll be testing the other items more when I have the camera for a longer period.
It took over 2 minutes before you even started talking about the cameras.
Video starts at 2:20
Thank you.
great camera i pre ordered a7rm3
I really appreciate all your help! Would it be possible to email you some questions?
Sure, I'll do my best to answer them. contact@learningcameras.com
Dan Watson seriously means a lot thank you!
You say you can save a few bucks by getting the R2 but it's literally $1,000 bucks cheaper. I wish you'd do a real value comparison given the street price difference.
Yeah, it went on a huge sale around black Friday and is still on it. Not sure if they will maintain that price though. From a quality perspective they are almost the same. The value is going be in real world use which for landscape photographers might be minimal but most others it will be well worth it. I shoot weddings and found the a7RII almost unusable without dual cards, better focusing, and decent battery life to name a few upgrades so the value is ABSOLUTELY there. But if you can live with imperfections in exchange for $1000 in savings, the quality is the same so the a7RII might be fine.
At the end of the day the Rii will still poop out arguably the best looking files you will see coming from anythang. That being said i sold a iv and kept my iii. Nothing beats the Riii
Thanks for the review. :)
Fast Response, 10fps, battery life. U need to upgrade.
Still not sure why the customer should always be the one to pay for 'admitted improvements' - it kind of says 'we screwed up guys but hey, we get you to pay for it...' Not good. Not fair. Update the firmware and the operation to correct the stuff you'd did wrong, Sony. Don't expect your customers to have to buy a new camera every time.
+Ed Schirra I hear you but none of the big changes were firmware upgradable. Battery, more focus points, new shutter, dual cards, joystick, new video button, USB C... The only potential firmware upgrade is with video by oversampling. But even that might be relying to some extent on a new processor. I guess they could fix the menu system
very informative ...liked & subed
Thanks!!! Appreciate the sub
Really bummed about no timelapse. Common Sony give us timelapse. My Canon 5Dlll has no timelapse. And for the last 5 years I've been wanting my next camera to have timelapse. Sony is supposed to be the company that gives us all the new technology. But even Canon now has built in timelaps. Common Sony. Give us timelapse in a firmware update right now. There is no excuse for this.
I hope in your review you spend some time on the silent shutter. Can you shoot people walking. Or turning there head. What exactly are the limits of it without getting rolling shutter. You have my hopes up with what you said in this video.
No issues with silent mode for movement like that. The issue will be flickering lights and maybe whip pans. You saw there wasn't even a huge amount visible in the helicopter blades.
im sure the techy geeks will be rushing out to upgrade, good thing is if i do choose to switch there'll be plenty of excellent second hand systems out there at a decent price.
This is the Fourth Camera on my purchase list.
Curious what the other 3 are
1) Hello Kitty Camera 2) Lego Camera 3) Konica AiBorg
So I did a comparison on your raw photos compare to mines with the same camera... I'm definitely an amateur :O
don't get caught up in upgrading cameras every year or two its a con
Review starts at 2:25
NO! NO!! NO!!! 2017 and Sony STILL can't incorporate a fully articulated rear display. Deal breaker for video!
I'm with you but other than the GH5, what other options do you have? Canon 5d4 and D850 both lack articulating screens
Worth to purchase for sharp and fast focus.
A7R II already has fast and "sharp" focus.
Worth the upgrade if you gonna use a7riii for sports maybe but rest is quite same
+J V I'd say it's way better for everyone other than maybe landscape photographers. But even they will appreciate the improved touch screen, evf, and battery life
The upgrade in FF 4k quality alone is worth it.
>way better
It isn't, the IV will be.
It's an A7R II that is better for sports/wildlife, that's about it. Dual slots for peace of mind and better battery (not that battery was bad if you used airplane mode). Woo.
I'll wait.
It's hilarious that Panasonic still kick their ass for IBIS and 4K video, in bodies less than 1/4 the price. Also, could you maybe say "Amazing" a couple hundred more times in your videos? .... seriously .... calm down on the over-the-top praise
Actually I personally owned the GH5 until the A7III came out and then switched to Sony a couple months ago but really not for the video and mostly because it also shoots better stills. My issues with the GH5 were low light and autofocus but it certainly had some killer features and quality which is why it was my go to for video. But when it comes to a hybrid shooter, the Sony is certainly amazing. As a pure video camera, I go back and forth between Sony and Panasonic as to which I like more
couple hundred dollar upgrade? you can get brand new a7rii for 2300 with tax the a7riii 3300...
Yeah, the a7RII went on a big sale around black Friday and is still heavily discounted. It's actually a real steal at that price but the actual price still fluctuates between $2700-2900 and it was $2900 still when I filmed this review! Who knows if it will stay around $2300
true! makes it a lot harder to decide between the two... switching from a Nikon d810
Coming from a D810, I would highly recommend the RIII. Other than video (which would be a huge step up from the D810 even in the RII), the a7RII would come with some big negatives like no dual cards, iffy autofocus, crap battery life...things like that which could make the switch rough. But I think the a7RIII would be a good upgrade from the D810 especially if you want a smaller/lighter setup and are interested in video...and it's the same price as the D850 so no worries there!
Looks like Jared Polin's pictures with the cowboy
Man, i think you misspelled some of the comparison shots with FF and s35.
DANG. I wish we could re-upload videos, add annotations, and fix mistakes. Sucks too because often companies do firmware updates that fix things we talked about in the review and we can't change anything
yeah, in the future it will all be metadata, and it will be easier! =D
I sent back the d850 to get a a7riii. I’m hoping it will come by end of Nov.
Wow...sending back the D850 for the a7RIII should scare the hell out of Canon/Nikon!
liked before fade from black @ beginning.
Sony, to me, seems to be a company that drips out features in a way to squeeze the most cash out of their customers. For example, Sony landed the 6300 and then 8 months later released 6500. The new Z battery is another example, I bet that you will very soon see the next 6500 with basically only the new z battery added ( sorry 6300/6500 owners, go get the new one). I am a Fuji shooter, and my 1.5 year old X pro 2 will soon have a firmware to add 4K video as well as other features. Fuji just seems to be doing everything right by the customers. Just my opinion,,, Thanks
Really depends on how you think about it. You could say that rather than hold on to new tech for the next 2-4 year cycle, they just add it to a new camera right away which gets new tech in our hands much sooner. But yes, I do wish they would do more with firmware updates for things like the updated menus, improving the buffer, improving AF algorithms, adding slog 3...stuff like that. Fuji & Panasonic do better with that. I disagree that they are squeezing cash out of their customers though because it's not like you HAVE to upgrade for any reason. Your a7RII is every bit as good today as it was 2 years ago when you bought it so there is no reason to upgrade except that you now have the OPTION to access even better features IF you want so I can't see how that is bad for the customer other than maybe lowering the resale value of older gear and giving us major gear envy lol
kdelage1
Sony is brilliant, rather than stick to Product Launch Schedules (conventional marketing, just like Canikon)
They react to strong competitors, for example this A7Riii early launch (compared to A7mk iii) is Sony Counter Attack to Nikon D850.
Now we are hoping Sony reaction to Panasonic G9.
Possibly A6700..., it will be exciting
Its never boring in Sony Alpha's world..
I don't understand this line of thought. You'd rather fewer releases so your ego doesn't get hurt?
I don’t think it’s a money grab, Sony really is investing a ton of r&d into these cameras and they want a return on that investment. But I do agree they need to support older models with firmware updates. There’s no reason why we can’t have the new color science in the 6300, 6500, a7r2 etc, which would really help these camera bodies retain their value on the secondary market.
As Zac said, I don't understand this line of thought. Fuji's look, looks even more videoish than sony's in box settings. The compression/detail just looks horrible. I don't think Fuji cameras (in this price range) are even close to the sony lineup.
Very nice now goona google Sony A7RIII problems
What problems? I actually purchased the RIII and have been using it for months
They finally moved the record button from that weird spot on the side.
Sold my a7rii, have pre-ordered a7riii.
+Tony Pierce awesome Tony!
+Dan Watson hopefully you don't have to wait forever lol, I hear pre-orders were insane compared to expectations
Yeah, I'm trying to not think about it ;)
"save a couple hundred bucks" (by going with the A7rII)... well, more like 1 grand
I know...this black friday sale for the RII is insane: bhpho.to/2AUwsL9
Zed batteries and joystick are more than enough to sell this sucker.