Arrma has really turn into my favorite brand of RC Car/Truck out there!! Thinking out of the box, best looking bodies, running upgrades, fast out of the box,,, etc Great reviews as usual Sir!
Back to watch again and leave a comment. That was a fantastically in-depth review of this Greg! Looks like it handles really well. I actually liked the original 4s Kraton, but these upgrades are even better.
I have a Kraton 4s v2 and I haven't had the issues that I read about all of the time! I never broke an A-Arm, bearings held up with no issues (still running the factory) and I never had any issues from the axles. The only issue I have had, is worn out gears (I drive a lot) and the slipper thrust bearing. I have 16 Thunder Power 8200 55C batteries and I probably have more than 200+ battery packs through my Kraton. My upgrades; I never used the factory radio, I put my Spektrum on it as soon as I got it out of the box, and after 2 years, I wanted a better ESC and servo on it. I put a Mamba Monster X on it and a cheap Amazon water proof servo on it. Other than that, it's been rock solid!
Arrma is a bad ass company that listens to the consumers! I’ve had very few issues and all had no problem getting replacements! Had a bum esc in v1 4s Kraton and had a new one in a week. Great company
Would like to see the dual protocol receivers in everything they sell now. The cost can’t be much. I’m not into keeping 20-30 transmitters on the shelf. It would be nice to choose to bind it to a Dx5 or rugged or leave it stock.
Great bid Greg. Love your content. I know this is not a comparison vid. But on 4s, this seems better then the Sledge. I think I will wait till they are released and get it. Keep up the great work!!!
Arrma really seems to pay attention to what the rc world wants from them. 4s kraton, now a 3s infraction on the way, it's great. I need to get my hands on some bigger stuff for review. My channel is very new so I got a long way to go. This review was excellent, great work and great example of how a review should be. I like that you let the car speak for itself a bit as well.
Stellar review, I would have liked to see a bit harder send (similar to what the guys at Amain did in their review) in addition to the track footage, but that's nitpicky on me. For the truck itself, it definitely looks like a blast to drive. Wish Arrma would relegate the SLT3 transmitter to cheap trucks and pack the DX3 in with higher end stuff though.
Arrma caught the problem and it will all be fixed by the time consumers get the truck. Only RUclipsrs early trucks may encounter the issue. It’s really not something worth talking about since it will be fixed. But I wanted to be honest in how my test session went.
AWESOME detailed overview and maiden Rip Brother 😱. I agree 100% ARRMA nailed it with the improvements 👀. Super FUN and tough platform. Great tips at the end too!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
I subscribed a couple months ago and enjoy your channel… nice work!! Why do you think Arma isn’t sealing up the slipper clutch gear case better? I’ve seen that issue on their other trucks also. Looks like the same design. Thanks
Ok so the problem with dust getting to the gear area is not a big issue that ARRMA should be aware of and fix it ? Opening it and cleaning it every time someone takes it on areas with loose dirt, it is an off road rc, where should someone run it ?
Great review Greg. I like both the outcast and Kraton 4S. I like that blue outcast. I’d get a teal Kraton. I’m torn Ike many others. I really like the Maxx 4S V2 though.
Great video not a rc pro here. But seeing the slipper clutch cover that dirty after one battery seems like an issue. If it had an o ring and or better design makes sense. Seems like arrma made a good truck over all. Thanks!
I was so hyped to see the 4s come back out as i have always wanted a kraton but dont have 1k to spend... until I saw pricing in Australia...$810 for blue or $770 for teal... yet the 6s kraton is $970 ... not sure if the pricing is just a bit high bcos its new... if not then I dont really see the point to the 4s when it's $100 cheaper then the bigger brother 6s
The 6s tbh is probably gonna be less durable than these they’re heavy and my old outcasts only problems were with the drive shafts and the wheel hex’s stripping or just flying off tbh and seems they may have fixed that
Pricing makes no sense for us Aussies. This thing is not far off my kraton exb, hobbywing max 8 combo and dumbo rc radio transmitter pricewise it's like what's the point? This thing would barely keep up with my vorteks 3s blx for more and no major fixes
I just recently raced the arrma Talian exb with truggy tires and a 4s system at my local track and placed first in my class over Losi's Tekno and Koyosho Truggies. Granted I was the better driver that day I'm still surprised how well these Arrmas can do with the right tires and minor suspension and diff tuning. They are actually racing capable against higher-end machines. Don't let the Losi Tekno and Kyosho fanboys tell you otherwise. They just don't like being beaten by a basher. I wish the racers were more accepting. Unfortunately at the club track, I race and there are a bunch of snobs who take it too seriously and ruin it for the rest of us. They shy away from people with bashers which is wrong. We need more people in races so be it if they show up with a Kraton 4s V2, at least more people are signing up which means more money for the track which in turn can save it from disappearing like so many have because of mom and pop hobby shops closing down do to people buying online. If you race at a local track please be kind to the kids with the inexpensive bashers and help them be competitive with what they have.
Good info with lots of detail. What’s the comparable between the Kraton V2 and the Traxxas WIDEMaxx V2? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind sharing. Thank you for the video and your time.
I’m not sure it would work. A lot of parts work in conjunction with each other. Like you really can put the longer arms on without getting the longer tie-rods, then the longer shocks and then the new towers and longer driveshafts.
@@rcdriver yes that makes sense. I wonder if the slipper clutch is interchangeable, and would eliminate the loosening that sometimes occurs on the old version.
Dont they have to enclose those gears? that was a lot of dirt in there and would quickly damage or wear them out and ya cant grease them if dirt is coming in
I love the fact that Arrma will address issues before release for the most part. I have an Xmaxx as well and the particle metal they call a spur and pinion shredded all but 5 combined teeth on said pinion and spur. I called traxxas and was told, Ya they do that, just buy another.? Seriously, this $1000 Machine has been an ongoing problem they know about and will not put stronger gears in. I put a tekno pinion and a Hot Racing spur in due to the hardness and the tekno having a 2.5mm grub that has a flat grub bottom for a flat fit. Yesterday a Tekno tooth broke. I hate taking the pinion out as it's so hard to get to stay on and with threadlock so hard to get off if swapping. And really the shaft that rounds off. They should have done the D bore pinion like Arrma did. Looking at getting rid of the X-maxx 8s with green body, proline brute body, proline badlands, Duratrax Hatchet X, aluminum Hot Racing Upper gearbox cover , 2x4s batteries for and grab both of the Arrma Kraton and Outcast 4s. Or one or the other and finish my 6s lineup with the Talion. I have the 6s versions of the Kraton and NoCast.and are a little easier to work on, especially getting motor out and servicing diffs. Plus being disabled, I sold my motorcycle and bout a Xmaxx and am now find it to heavy to lug around due to several back surgeries and right leg broke in 3 spots. So 1/10-1/8 is perfect. All my RC's I worked off by working on RC's when my local hobbyshop needs extra hands, or I would not have the ones I do. Private Hobbytown owners are tr he best. Paid minimum wage on a gift card for the hrs the needed. Took awhile but I only had to put up $250 to finish. Ya took awhile. Lol. But then spent $ on all the thing trying to make it my own. But that damn pinion. I know I may have to grind the shaft flat on the edge again.
It is. The axle issue will be fixed by the time consumers get it. So my only concern would be the dirt in the gear case. Arrma fans have some creative fixes for that.
@Vape N Clash yeah you can also just seal It with some high temperature silicone, you know the one they use for real engines cause if you use the regular hot one Its just going to fall off faster than you apply It 🤣🤣
All the review videos dropping at the same time. Greg does a great job as always. I know you don't "compare" per se' but how do you think most people would benefit from this vs the new Outcast which is similar but shorter? And I know you won't answer, but others might. Is it a Maxx killer?
I went back and forth in my head a bit and decided on two separate videos for the Kraton and Outcast. Hopefully it helps in some way. A Maxx killer, hmm I can’t tell yet because of my limited time. The Kraton might handle the high speed low off-road terrain better with its lower CG. Maxx is a beast on the big jumps. Need more time to tell.
I know you won't answer? What's with the guilt-tripping to get him to answer? That's so uncalled for. Creators don't have all the time in the world to answer comments as it takes away from actual content creation. Especially when you have a channel with more than 5000 subscribers. Stop guilt-tripping the people who put in hard work for us to enjoy.
Thanks. I think they’d need to retool that center case to have a gasket channel. I’d like to see a felt gasket under there. Since the piece slides out, I don’t think a rubber gasket would work/slide well.
Oh man, this thing looks SO sick. So I’ve been wanting a Maxx V2 for a few months, did all my research and landed on the Maxx - and then Arrma announced this truck. And I’m pretty torn honestly. I’ve been running a Rustler 4x4 for a year now and upgraded every darn thing and I still break way too much stuff all the time. What kind of comparison are we talking here with the Maxx vs this new Kraton? I like the wider stance of the Kraton but the Maxx V2 is tried and true for being extremely durable for jumps. I don’t know, but it won’t be around September until I grab one anyway! Great review man, can’t wait to see this thing in real life.
Maxx V2 seems to be a tough puppy but it won't handle anywhere near like these bigger Arrmas will. I'd just get both trucks tbh, then you can compare yourself.
@@FreakMeat74 maxx is very tough but no where near as fast and handles like a brick. My Arrma 3s rigs smoke the maxx v2. And the 4s rigs do as well and handle way better with the same durability. Don't waste your money on over priced traxxas. Honestly my favorite basher is my redcat kaiju 6s running on 5s. It's the most durable rig I own.
@@chaoticadventure Yeah Maxx needs a new powerplant and is already overpriced, it's the least value by far. I've had issues with the Big Rock but these 4s rigs fix alot of the 3s line issues. I'm going to get one just going to wait for a sale lol
@rcdriver_online did you check the motor temps after extended running on 4s? I saw another reviewer whose motor got so hot it melted the driveshaft. (I believe he also had the pin eject itself)
Yup another guy had same exact issue with his, I said to myself no big deal shit happens and if that's it no problem, but if it's gonna get resolved on production models than even better👍👍
They didn't improve the sealing on the motor module? Disappointing that it pulled in that much dust after one run. It would be extremely annoying to clean it out after every run, that issue on its own kinda turns me away from the truck.
Damn, I hope they suck and fall apart, cause if not I'm definitely loosing a nice chunk of change on one of these! 😂 Always wanted one (the larger Mini E-Revo I always wanted), been waiting for them to bring back the 4S Kraton since I bought my V2 Kronos instead, right after they discontinued the 4S line (and a week before the cooler looking Punisher was announced 😓). Been a while since I was excited for a new RC car, can't wait to see the aftermarket support!
The Kraton looks like a pretty awesome truck, I was looking at investing in a Notorious but I’m now thinking maybe the 4s Outcast maybe a better option for the money 🤔 really looking forward to the Outcast review to see how good it is.
@@mrchimera2001ify that’s a great price, unfortunately I’m in the uk and the cheapest I can get the Notorious is £579. The 4s Outcast is £429 so I just need to decide if the notorious is worth the extra £150 🤔
I have a granite 3s. Rips too much sometimes. Big rock I feel might have been better purchase. I do find it breaks easy. I don’t go crazy and this has sat more than i drive. Maybe the Kraton is built better. local R/C shops just don’t carry Arrma 1/10 of what they do TRAXXAS
let be honest the Kraton 4s is the best truck Arrma have, this one is a better version with a lot upgrades, the value is their, even if that issue happen that nothing
This is what they should have done with the entire 3s line those plastic diff gears have to go. They don't belong in the 3s line and they certainly don't belong in the 4s line and I couldn't believe it when I saw them trying to put that kind of power through those plastic gears...They fixed that, but that shocks rubbing the driveshafts issue is just bad design and a deal breaker for me. At 500?! Nope. I think this car is strictly for the people that have to own absolutely everything.
Ah, Haven’t seen his video yet. Shouldn’t be a problem when consumers get their trucks. Arrma is fixing those. Just the early ones that went to RUclipsrs can encounter the problem.
Let the battle begin. In many ways, this new Kraton 4S "1-ups" the Traxxas Sledge...ESPECIALLY in price...but, there are certain aspects of the Sledge that are better. I do really like that Arrma (at least for these new 4S vehicles) had moved away from the upper arms/links attaching via ballcups. For small competitive race vehicles (such as 1/10 buggies, SCTs, & truggies), the user of ballcups is perfectly fine...but, for bashing vehicles, it's a HUGE 'no-no' for me (and others), which is exactly why I've completely avoided Arrma vehicles. However, this new Kraton 4S could persuade me to reconsider purchasing the Sledge...at the same time, it would also mean having to sell all the Sledge upgrades I've already purchased (essentially, everything except the soon-to-be-released 7075 chassis from M2C Racing). Of course, of I can sell all those upgrades for no less than a "minimal loss", the sale of those upgrades would almost pay for the Kraton 4S. Now...that sounds like a "plan". 🤙🏼
@@jbrc1322 I do get what you're trying to say...but, unfortunately...you don't, can't, and (definitely) shouldn't be comparing a single vehicle against a "lineup" of vehicles. That would be like trying to compare a single Toyota model against all Hondas. Now, if you want to look at them with a more accurate comparison, and look at the types of vehicles each of the new Arrma 4S BLX vehicles are, and then compare them against the current lineup of Traxxas vehicles, you'll find the following. First, the Kraton-Sledge comparison I originally started is an accurate one, as both are (essentially) truggies. Second, the Maxx would be more compatible to the new Outcast 4S, as both are "wide stance trucks" (ie. not truggies). You seem to be focusing primarily on the size of the vehicles, whereas I'm focusing on the total vehicle...but, again, I do understand your comparison suggestion. I'm not going to make any purchase decision just yet...partly because I need to do research on ALL options, partly because I don't have the funds right now (am I'm correctly "upgrading" my new RAV4...just lifted it, and making a decision on tires), and possibly because I need to (temporarily) stop responding to RUclips, RCC, & OSE replies, and log into work.
A lot of people comparing this to Traxxas Maxx V2 but in reality Maxx is light years ahead. Few other youtubers had the same problem with this pin also. I respect Arrma but there is a lot of work here still.
@@kevinb729 I picked up a infraction for 190 brushed but my first on road rc lol better then 299 plus tax. The box had a little smash spot like quarter size nothing else wrong
I can’t believe they kept that stupid slipper in there! Those slipper hubs are pure glass! I would have pre ordered both these new models if it weren’t for the slipper crap.
Sounds like they fixed nothing important from the 3s blx in fact probably magnified the outstanding issues. Body sits way too high, it would look silly sitting next to a kraton exb. Price seems nothing special just right in the middle. Well thought out shareholders and marketing, another winning seller definitely for the uninformed. Just unsatisfied loyal fans no big loss eh arrma? Where's the big rock/granite 4s? those were there memorable ones. Now you got 3 tiers of same same but different
i wish they would have made the shock towers look better. they look like they are from the original RC trucks ever made. looks cheap. i like the all plastic chassis though. i hate Arrmas aluminum chassis. they bend right away. plastic for bashers
@Vape N Clash Irrelevant. Buyers should not have to upgrade pivot balls when basically no other reputable company sells a $200+ r/c with plastic ones. It's flat out absurd, especially considering the nearly $500 price tag of this. End of story.
@Vape N Clash I actually can't recall seeing plastic pivot balls on any other "decent" brands. To be fair though, I don't pay much attention to anything under $150 or 10th scale so there probably are some. However, this is almost $500 so there's no excuse for cutting costs on parts like those.
@Vape N Clash Basically, post me a link to a reputable brand with plastic balls. I can't think of one. Other companies typically have more sense I guess.
Wow…..the amount of dirt and grit the Kraton 4S collects internally is a maintenance problem. Last thing I want to be doing is tearing gear and diff housings apart after each run to keep it clean. Also didn’t like the way the shocks are rubbing on the axles. That’s a design flaw that Arma should have fixed before release.
I received the arrma kraton 4s and had lots of problems with rear drive shafts the ring that holds the pins in kept falling out so l had to put nut and bolt 🔩 in keep in mind the shafts are NG l gess you get what you pay for $469 thanks 😊
Arrma has really turn into my favorite brand of RC Car/Truck out there!! Thinking out of the box, best looking bodies, running upgrades, fast out of the box,,, etc Great reviews as usual Sir!
These look like a lot of fun on 4S, Greg. Thanks for your exhaustive review, as usual!
Back to watch again and leave a comment. That was a fantastically in-depth review of this Greg! Looks like it handles really well. I actually liked the original 4s Kraton, but these upgrades are even better.
Thank you Tony!!
Excellent in-depth review as always!
Love how they've fixed the driveshaft issue before its even released to public. That's why we love Arrma! 👍
I have a Kraton 4s v2 and I haven't had the issues that I read about all of the time! I never broke an A-Arm, bearings held up with no issues (still running the factory) and I never had any issues from the axles. The only issue I have had, is worn out gears (I drive a lot) and the slipper thrust bearing. I have 16 Thunder Power 8200 55C batteries and I probably have more than 200+ battery packs through my Kraton. My upgrades; I never used the factory radio, I put my Spektrum on it as soon as I got it out of the box, and after 2 years, I wanted a better ESC and servo on it. I put a Mamba Monster X on it and a cheap Amazon water proof servo on it. Other than that, it's been rock solid!
Arrma is a bad ass company that listens to the consumers! I’ve had very few issues and all had no problem getting replacements! Had a bum esc in v1 4s Kraton and had a new one in a week. Great company
Great review as always Greg :)
Tons of detail as always.
Lots of great comments and advice
This platform will take a beating that's for sure!!. Way to go Jason and your team.
@@philthyco1 I didn't have a problem with the 3s typhoon
Would like to see the dual protocol receivers in everything they sell now. The cost can’t be much. I’m not into keeping 20-30 transmitters on the shelf. It would be nice to choose to bind it to a Dx5 or rugged or leave it stock.
There is no one on RUclips that does as good a review as you Greg!
Also, weird they didn’t give these out for reviews to drop on announcement date.
They had to sign a form to wait. Another rc RUclipsr told me that Saturday.
Agree lucky to have greg and Rc Driver. Thanks again 🚗💨💯
It's tempting to pick up something like that to run with the 4s maxx
Great bid Greg. Love your content. I know this is not a comparison vid. But on 4s, this seems better then the Sledge. I think I will wait till they are released and get it. Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks! They’re kinda different truggies. The Sledge is really a pure 6S machine where The Kraton runs awesome on a more affordable 4S power setup.
Arrma really seems to pay attention to what the rc world wants from them. 4s kraton, now a 3s infraction on the way, it's great. I need to get my hands on some bigger stuff for review. My channel is very new so I got a long way to go. This review was excellent, great work and great example of how a review should be. I like that you let the car speak for itself a bit as well.
Stellar review, I would have liked to see a bit harder send (similar to what the guys at Amain did in their review) in addition to the track footage, but that's nitpicky on me.
For the truck itself, it definitely looks like a blast to drive. Wish Arrma would relegate the SLT3 transmitter to cheap trucks and pack the DX3 in with higher end stuff though.
I put some sticky backed felt on my motor gear assembly it stops the ingress of fine dirt / dust ,so protects the pinion / spur / clutch
You did a very thorough review. Thanks. I'm looking forward to future runs.
Oh my gosh it just looks so good! Definitely want to grab one and compare it to my typhon.
Nice rig your not the only one with this issue wow wheres the QC, QA all that stuufff great work Greg!!!
Arrma caught the problem and it will all be fixed by the time consumers get the truck. Only RUclipsrs early trucks may encounter the issue. It’s really not something worth talking about since it will be fixed. But I wanted to be honest in how my test session went.
AWESOME detailed overview and maiden Rip Brother 😱. I agree 100% ARRMA nailed it with the improvements 👀. Super FUN and tough platform. Great tips at the end too!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
Thanks Brother! The Arrma crew has been working hard for sure! 😎
so what I did was , turn the front shock mud guard around to keep it from scraping the drive shaft , works well
Imma get that Keaton royal blue one this week 🔥
I subscribed a couple months ago and enjoy your channel… nice work!! Why do you think Arma isn’t sealing up the slipper clutch gear case better? I’ve seen that issue on their other trucks also. Looks like the same design. Thanks
Did you have any problems with the slipper clutch? I know with the v1 I had to continuously keep tightening it up after it run.
I recommend putting a piece of gorilla tape at the bottom of the gear box. I used to do that on all my 3s models and helps keep stuff out
I’m getting it as my next one! Looking forward to it!
Ok so the problem with dust getting to the gear area is not a big issue that ARRMA should be aware of and fix it ? Opening it and cleaning it every time someone takes it on areas with loose dirt, it is an off road rc, where should someone run it ?
Great honest review.
Great video once again! Those arms look so beefy
Great test once again. The most objective guy in this world ;)
Great review Greg. I like both the outcast and Kraton 4S. I like that blue outcast. I’d get a teal Kraton. I’m torn Ike many others. I really like the Maxx 4S V2 though.
Great video not a rc pro here. But seeing the slipper clutch cover that dirty after one battery seems like an issue. If it had an o ring and or better design makes sense. Seems like arrma made a good truck over all. Thanks!
I was so hyped to see the 4s come back out as i have always wanted a kraton but dont have 1k to spend... until I saw pricing in Australia...$810 for blue or $770 for teal... yet the 6s kraton is $970 ...
not sure if the pricing is just a bit high bcos
its new... if not then I dont really see the point to the 4s when it's $100 cheaper then the bigger brother 6s
The 6s tbh is probably gonna be less durable than these they’re heavy and my old outcasts only problems were with the drive shafts and the wheel hex’s stripping or just flying off tbh and seems they may have fixed that
Pricing makes no sense for us Aussies. This thing is not far off my kraton exb, hobbywing max 8 combo and dumbo rc radio transmitter pricewise it's like what's the point? This thing would barely keep up with my vorteks 3s blx for more and no major fixes
@@jasonwu2758 that’s fair enough I guess I mean we’re a ways off from buying an exb in American
I just recently raced the arrma Talian exb with truggy tires and a 4s system at my local track and placed first in my class over Losi's Tekno and Koyosho Truggies. Granted I was the better driver that day I'm still surprised how well these Arrmas can do with the right tires and minor suspension and diff tuning. They are actually racing capable against higher-end machines. Don't let the Losi Tekno and Kyosho fanboys tell you otherwise. They just don't like being beaten by a basher. I wish the racers were more accepting. Unfortunately at the club track, I race and there are a bunch of snobs who take it too seriously and ruin it for the rest of us. They shy away from people with bashers which is wrong. We need more people in races so be it if they show up with a Kraton 4s V2, at least more people are signing up which means more money for the track which in turn can save it from disappearing like so many have because of mom and pop hobby shops closing down do to people buying online. If you race at a local track please be kind to the kids with the inexpensive bashers and help them be competitive with what they have.
Good info with lots of detail. What’s the comparable between the Kraton V2 and the Traxxas WIDEMaxx V2? I’d be interested to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind sharing. Thank you for the video and your time.
Looked like you had a lot of fun ripping it around the track!! 💯
That I did! Can’t wait to get it fixed and back out for some bashing too!
I’m guessing that there are a lot of parts from this that could fit on the old version for upgrade purposes.
I’m not sure it would work. A lot of parts work in conjunction with each other. Like you really can put the longer arms on without getting the longer tie-rods, then the longer shocks and then the new towers and longer driveshafts.
@@rcdriver yes that makes sense. I wonder if the slipper clutch is interchangeable, and would eliminate the loosening that sometimes occurs on the old version.
Release the Kraton ! Nice quick video .
Dont they have to enclose those gears? that was a lot of dirt in there and would quickly damage or wear them out and ya cant grease them if dirt is coming in
Pretty sure he just removed the covers for the video.
wujuu thanks finally every time I wrote it your reviews are on another level 🔥💪🏻
I love the fact that Arrma will address issues before release for the most part. I have an Xmaxx as well and the particle metal they call a spur and pinion shredded all but 5 combined teeth on said pinion and spur. I called traxxas and was told, Ya they do that, just buy another.? Seriously, this $1000 Machine has been an ongoing problem they know about and will not put stronger gears in. I put a tekno pinion and a Hot Racing spur in due to the hardness and the tekno having a 2.5mm grub that has a flat grub bottom for a flat fit. Yesterday a Tekno tooth broke. I hate taking the pinion out as it's so hard to get to stay on and with threadlock so hard to get off if swapping. And really the shaft that rounds off. They should have done the D bore pinion like Arrma did. Looking at getting rid of the X-maxx 8s with green body, proline brute body, proline badlands, Duratrax Hatchet X, aluminum Hot Racing Upper gearbox cover , 2x4s batteries for and grab both of the Arrma Kraton and Outcast 4s. Or one or the other and finish my 6s lineup with the Talion. I have the 6s versions of the Kraton and NoCast.and are a little easier to work on, especially getting motor out and servicing diffs. Plus being disabled, I sold my motorcycle and bout a Xmaxx and am now find it to heavy to lug around due to several back surgeries and right leg broke in 3 spots. So 1/10-1/8 is perfect. All my RC's I worked off by working on RC's when my local hobbyshop needs extra hands, or I would not have the ones I do. Private Hobbytown owners are tr he best. Paid minimum wage on a gift card for the hrs the needed. Took awhile but I only had to put up $250 to finish. Ya took awhile. Lol. But then spent $ on all the thing trying to make it my own. But that damn pinion. I know I may have to grind the shaft flat on the edge again.
Great honest review! Will add to my list to pick one up when available 👍👍🇬🇧
Nice mate thank you I was waiting for this review, It seems like a good kraton
It is. The axle issue will be fixed by the time consumers get it. So my only concern would be the dirt in the gear case. Arrma fans have some creative fixes for that.
@@rcdriver perhaps a bit of silicone to stop It from coming in or something like that and it's still probably a good idea to leave that dry
@Vape N Clash yeah you can also just seal It with some high temperature silicone, you know the one they use for real engines cause if you use the regular hot one Its just going to fall off faster than you apply It 🤣🤣
All the review videos dropping at the same time. Greg does a great job as always. I know you don't "compare" per se' but how do you think most people would benefit from this vs the new Outcast which is similar but shorter? And I know you won't answer, but others might. Is it a Maxx killer?
I went back and forth in my head a bit and decided on two separate videos for the Kraton and Outcast. Hopefully it helps in some way. A Maxx killer, hmm I can’t tell yet because of my limited time. The Kraton might handle the high speed low off-road terrain better with its lower CG. Maxx is a beast on the big jumps. Need more time to tell.
I know you won't answer? What's with the guilt-tripping to get him to answer? That's so uncalled for. Creators don't have all the time in the world to answer comments as it takes away from actual content creation. Especially when you have a channel with more than 5000 subscribers. Stop guilt-tripping the people who put in hard work for us to enjoy.
What is more durable between this and the Traxxas Maxx?
Couldn’t wait to hear your take on these.
Will you be going over the 3s infraction BLX?
Hope it helped. Um, not sure if I can say… wait I’ve said too much! 😆 Keep a watch on the channel.
@@rcdriver “I can neither confirm nor deny….” Hahaha
I’ll be watching! I literally finished up install of MAX10 SCT 3200kv on my mega haha.
great job again Greg on review.. thank you.. you think Arrma could come out with a rubber gasket for the center clutch casing so dont get dirt inside?
Thanks. I think they’d need to retool that center case to have a gasket channel. I’d like to see a felt gasket under there. Since the piece slides out, I don’t think a rubber gasket would work/slide well.
@@rcdriver very true
Brilliant review mate👌
I was definitely looking forward to seeing these beautiful cars, set up almost perfect😃🤘
Im getting one. Gonna save like 50 bucks a month in a shoebox. This will be my first hobby rc car so might as well get a ripper of a car.
Awesome truck!
Hope it goes on sale for 4th of July 🎉
Oh man, this thing looks SO sick. So I’ve been wanting a Maxx V2 for a few months, did all my research and landed on the Maxx - and then Arrma announced this truck. And I’m pretty torn honestly.
I’ve been running a Rustler 4x4 for a year now and upgraded every darn thing and I still break way too much stuff all the time. What kind of comparison are we talking here with the Maxx vs this new Kraton? I like the wider stance of the Kraton but the Maxx V2 is tried and true for being extremely durable for jumps. I don’t know, but it won’t be around September until I grab one anyway!
Great review man, can’t wait to see this thing in real life.
Get the arrma. I have a maxx and outcast,kraton,notorious, typhon,Mojave, fireteam and more! Arrma is WAY better.
Maxx V2 seems to be a tough puppy but it won't handle anywhere near like these bigger Arrmas will. I'd just get both trucks tbh, then you can compare yourself.
@@FreakMeat74 maxx is very tough but no where near as fast and handles like a brick. My Arrma 3s rigs smoke the maxx v2. And the 4s rigs do as well and handle way better with the same durability. Don't waste your money on over priced traxxas. Honestly my favorite basher is my redcat kaiju 6s running on 5s. It's the most durable rig I own.
@@chaoticadventure Yeah Maxx needs a new powerplant and is already overpriced, it's the least value by far. I've had issues with the Big Rock but these 4s rigs fix alot of the 3s line issues. I'm going to get one just going to wait for a sale lol
Thanks - as always!!!
@rcdriver_online did you check the motor temps after extended running on 4s? I saw another reviewer whose motor got so hot it melted the driveshaft. (I believe he also had the pin eject itself)
That outcast looks mean!
Yup, video is live for it too!
Arrma need make 4s exb version of the outcast and Kraton:)
Have a great 4th of July 🎉
Awesome review 👍
Looks like it needs a little more motor and a better servo
This was the first run, so I wasn’t totally hammering on it. Will do in the follow up. The servo, well, some will grow out of it quickly.
Yup another guy had same exact issue with his, I said to myself no big deal shit happens and if that's it no problem, but if it's gonna get resolved on production models than even better👍👍
This car looks amazing but am i the only one that want a arrma talion 4s model to be added to the 4s line up i would really like to see that
Greg have you reviewed the Associated MT8 ? There are three main trucks competing in the 4S category, not just the Maxx
Sorry I have not. It certainly does have my interest. 🤔
This thing looks awesome. I'm going to see if my local hobby shop has one in.
Awesome! Support those LHS’s!
Always the best and most in depth honest reviews. 👍🏼
🤘🏼🤘🏼
They didn't improve the sealing on the motor module? Disappointing that it pulled in that much dust after one run. It would be extremely annoying to clean it out after every run, that issue on its own kinda turns me away from the truck.
Rc madness in enfield u live close by ? I do
NIIICE 🔥Love the track footage 🔥👍✌️
I need an outcast and that shirt 🍻
Thank you very much.
Damn, I hope they suck and fall apart, cause if not I'm definitely loosing a nice chunk of change on one of these! 😂
Always wanted one (the larger Mini E-Revo I always wanted), been waiting for them to bring back the 4S Kraton since I bought my V2 Kronos instead, right after they discontinued the 4S line (and a week before the cooler looking Punisher was announced 😓). Been a while since I was excited for a new RC car, can't wait to see the aftermarket support!
The 6s is on sale for $10 more than the 4s right now
This thing was totally built for RCM's new Bash area!!!
Use a dust bag on the chassis.
The Kraton looks like a pretty awesome truck, I was looking at investing in a Notorious but I’m now thinking maybe the 4s Outcast maybe a better option for the money 🤔 really looking forward to the Outcast review to see how good it is.
Outcast video is now live! Enjoy
@@rcdriver awesome 👍🏼
Notorious 479 at tower hobbies
@@mrchimera2001ify that’s a great price, unfortunately I’m in the uk and the cheapest I can get the Notorious is £579. The 4s Outcast is £429 so I just need to decide if the notorious is worth the extra £150 🤔
I have a granite 3s. Rips too much sometimes. Big rock I feel might have been better purchase. I do find it breaks easy. I don’t go crazy and this has sat more than i drive. Maybe the Kraton is built better. local R/C shops just don’t carry Arrma 1/10 of what they do TRAXXAS
Please do a head to head as far as bashing is concerned!
let be honest the Kraton 4s is the best truck Arrma have, this one is a better version with a lot upgrades, the value is their, even if that issue happen that nothing
Yup, the more I into the details, the more I liked it!
Nice
With the sale going on, the Kraton 6s is only $30 more that the 4s at $500
@Vape N Clash yup the track I go to is 4s and under
This is what they should have done with the entire 3s line those plastic diff gears have to go. They don't belong in the 3s line and they certainly don't belong in the 4s line and I couldn't believe it when I saw them trying to put that kind of power through those plastic gears...They fixed that, but that shocks rubbing the driveshafts issue is just bad design and a deal breaker for me. At 500?! Nope. I think this car is strictly for the people that have to own absolutely everything.
Why buy the 4s Kraton for $470 when you can get a 6s Kraton for $550 ????
I've waited but it since last yr.. now the economy is bad and funds are even tighter. Still must get this
RC Guy Garage had the same failure with his driveshaft failing & loosing the pin.
Ah, Haven’t seen his video yet. Shouldn’t be a problem when consumers get their trucks. Arrma is fixing those. Just the early ones that went to RUclipsrs can encounter the problem.
This verse maxx v2
Ahh I like it 🤨
Let the battle begin. In many ways, this new Kraton 4S "1-ups" the Traxxas Sledge...ESPECIALLY in price...but, there are certain aspects of the Sledge that are better. I do really like that Arrma (at least for these new 4S vehicles) had moved away from the upper arms/links attaching via ballcups. For small competitive race vehicles (such as 1/10 buggies, SCTs, & truggies), the user of ballcups is perfectly fine...but, for bashing vehicles, it's a HUGE 'no-no' for me (and others), which is exactly why I've completely avoided Arrma vehicles. However, this new Kraton 4S could persuade me to reconsider purchasing the Sledge...at the same time, it would also mean having to sell all the Sledge upgrades I've already purchased (essentially, everything except the soon-to-be-released 7075 chassis from M2C Racing). Of course, of I can sell all those upgrades for no less than a "minimal loss", the sale of those upgrades would almost pay for the Kraton 4S. Now...that sounds like a "plan". 🤙🏼
I would say the Maxx is a closer competitor to the new Arrma 4s lineup
@@jbrc1322 I do get what you're trying to say...but, unfortunately...you don't, can't, and (definitely) shouldn't be comparing a single vehicle against a "lineup" of vehicles. That would be like trying to compare a single Toyota model against all Hondas.
Now, if you want to look at them with a more accurate comparison, and look at the types of vehicles each of the new Arrma 4S BLX vehicles are, and then compare them against the current lineup of Traxxas vehicles, you'll find the following. First, the Kraton-Sledge comparison I originally started is an accurate one, as both are (essentially) truggies. Second, the Maxx would be more compatible to the new Outcast 4S, as both are "wide stance trucks" (ie. not truggies). You seem to be focusing primarily on the size of the vehicles, whereas I'm focusing on the total vehicle...but, again, I do understand your comparison suggestion. I'm not going to make any purchase decision just yet...partly because I need to do research on ALL options, partly because I don't have the funds right now (am I'm correctly "upgrading" my new RAV4...just lifted it, and making a decision on tires), and possibly because I need to (temporarily) stop responding to RUclips, RCC, & OSE replies, and log into work.
Kraton 6S is the competitor for the Sledge, not the 4S lineup
@@LosihoTTT thank you
@@jbrc1322 No problem. I have the V1 & V2 Maxx and a V5 Kraton 6S, all are great trucks, all have strengths & weaknesses
A lot of people comparing this to Traxxas Maxx V2 but in reality Maxx is light years ahead. Few other youtubers had the same problem with this pin also. I respect Arrma but there is a lot of work here still.
Maybe in overall durability but when it comes to handling the MAXX is one of the worst 4S trucks to get
@@fmc7209 might be but who buys Maxx for race track?
Like the car, but not the price
I agree. Was hoping for a a bit cheaper. Considering I just got a 1/8 scale notorious for the same price.
I give them a few months before there’s a sale on them.
@@kevinb729 yeah tower hobbies has a scratch n dent sale on a lot of trucks n cars now also. You can pick up a 8s 5th scale for 750
@@kevinb729 I picked up a infraction for 190 brushed but my first on road rc lol better then 299 plus tax. The box had a little smash spot like quarter size nothing else wrong
Nice I just pay full price cause my area has no used market for rc cars
I can’t believe they kept that stupid slipper in there! Those slipper hubs are pure glass! I would have pre ordered both these new models if it weren’t for the slipper crap.
Sounds like they fixed nothing important from the 3s blx in fact probably magnified the outstanding issues. Body sits way too high, it would look silly sitting next to a kraton exb. Price seems nothing special just right in the middle. Well thought out shareholders and marketing, another winning seller definitely for the uninformed. Just unsatisfied loyal fans no big loss eh arrma? Where's the big rock/granite 4s? those were there memorable ones. Now you got 3 tiers of same same but different
i wish they would have made the shock towers look better. they look like they are from the original RC trucks ever made. looks cheap. i like the all plastic chassis though. i hate Arrmas aluminum chassis. they bend right away. plastic for bashers
The towers could look better , but those things feel solid.
I bet the arms shatter
That thing has no balance when jumping at all.
Two versions one foe boys and one for girls if I'm allowed to say that lol
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Plastic pivot balls still? Ridiculous
@Vape N Clash Irrelevant. Buyers should not have to upgrade pivot balls when basically no other reputable company sells a $200+ r/c with plastic ones. It's flat out absurd, especially considering the nearly $500 price tag of this. End of story.
@Vape N Clash I actually can't recall seeing plastic pivot balls on any other "decent" brands. To be fair though, I don't pay much attention to anything under $150 or 10th scale so there probably are some. However, this is almost $500 so there's no excuse for cutting costs on parts like those.
@Vape N Clash Basically, post me a link to a reputable brand with plastic balls. I can't think of one. Other companies typically have more sense I guess.
Junk. Buyer beware. The chassis is horrible. The v2.5 is on the way. I’m staying away from this brand. Period.
Wow…..the amount of dirt and grit the Kraton 4S collects internally is a maintenance problem. Last thing I want to be doing is tearing gear and diff housings apart after each run to keep it clean. Also didn’t like the way the shocks are rubbing on the axles. That’s a design flaw that Arma should have fixed before release.
I received the arrma kraton 4s and had lots of problems with rear drive shafts the ring that holds the pins in kept falling out so l had to put nut and bolt 🔩 in keep in mind the shafts are NG l gess you get what you pay for $469 thanks 😊
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