Man United locals, yes. The thousands of glory supporters that come in every week not so much. Same goes for Liverpool. Chelsea are just simply not a working class fan base in the most part. City aren’t pulling in thousands of fans from all around the world but you can guarantee we’re a core family working class fan base who try their very best to get to all the games, it’s tough when you compete for every single trophy right to the very end as like I said we haven’t got world wide appeal just yet, should we be ashamed by that? People like that snob Simon Jordan wouldn’t have a clue, maybe why his club went bankrupt and has to get by on working for talkshite, poor sod
Nope. City build that stadium with way too much capacity. They should've made it around 30k seats and option for more only for other events at the stadium. City just don't have enough fans, small club.
@@Muslimoftheuniverse Yes. Regardless of anything at all, every club is in the same boat. City are not the only club with 90% of the fans being working class. It’s the same for every club. End of discussion.
But Utds and Liverpool are historically successful with fans all over the world. When local working class fans are unfortunately priced out of buying there tickets or attending as frequently there are an almost endless stream of potential tourists or first time attendees to take that ticket. City just don't have that yet but they are still a good club
@@andy56018 my guy without money u were no better than Burnley. Ur a small club with money. With plastic supporters. Manny will always be red. Have u every been to the empty haid. Your club has to do 50% off for students to try to get a full stadium. And you still can’t fill it out. Old Trafford gets sold out attendance for the carbo cup or friendlies, and your plastic club can’t do it for champions league games!😂😂😂😂😂
@@andy56018 Yeah not everyone can be blessed with rich owners who made their club. Also, manny is red cause of how many fans we have. We haven’t been successful in nearly 8 years but we can still sell out our stadium 3x over for friendless or carbo cup games. While ur team can’t do it for champions league games. That’s the facts. U were nothing without oil. U buy the best players but can’t buy fans. I think only way you can sell out a stadium is by reducing the size by 30,000.
@@andy56018 But you can win all the trophies, but who can you celebrate with. Manny is always red. Anyways. We have more than double league titles than you have and have won the champions league before. On the other hand our owners only take from our club. We buy all our players through our revenue. City on the other hand with investment from owners cause they can’t generate any revenue. Plus when the super league happened no city fan was moaning. Ohhh right cause there plastic and only became fans after the takeover. Ur a small club mate with money. We had trophies before fergie. What did you have before the takeover!
Why is the club a joke because they don’t have day trippers coming from China to go to a game? Or people coming up from London? Their fan base is solely in Manchester.
@Tim Brown you’re clearly not a football fan kid. Literally you haven’t a clue why are you even here hahaha embarrassing. Have a lovely evening anyway.
Not a small club but a local club. You don’t yet have the nationwide/global appeal that United, Liverpool, etc have. There will be more kids that grow up to be City fans so it will be different in the future.
@@hellalive8973 plastic glory hunters you mean United had half empty old Trafford before the Fergie years Liverpool were irrelevent before Klopp came that's, what happens when you start winning trophies all the time you get glory supporters that aren't true City fans the real fans are the ones who suffered in the low leagues when the club was absolute trash compared to now
@@markpugh6808 city have been successful for a decade now and still lack a full stadium consistently, Liverpool may have been “irrelevant” but maintained a huge fan base, city just can’t increase their fan base for whatever reason.
You can build new fans in the UK and it’s happening for City right now. The amount of kids knocking about wearing City tops today is a lot higher than what it used to be when I was at school and I’m 33 years old. All the kids when I was younger were supporters of either United and Liverpool. Why’s that? The same reason why you see more kids today wearing City kits.
90% of most fans are working class, other clubs still fill their stadiums. Embarrassing when your manager feels the need to ask people to turn up for a league game against Southampton. Real fans would be there. Some people can’t make it due to work, but if they’re as big as they say they are then surely there are others who would die for a ticket. Nope, not this lot.
@Jay Wills-faisca ???? soooo what's your point ? manchester city and united are both in the premier league and champions league and trust me you will never see an old trafford as empty as yesterday's etihad stadium lol. What an embarrassement not turning up for a big game against a not so bad bundesliga team
United have had 30 years of being at the top and collecting supporters from all other the country, who now go to games. Half of Essex would go to a united game if they can get a ticket. City not had the same time to get supporters, so only locals will go to games.
Thanks to Ollie Man United normally have only one game a week due to being knocked out of every competition early and Klopp cheats by exiting the domestic competitions early. Man City supporters have more fixtures a season than anybody else in the PL
This is the dumbest logic. You talk like every club has the same number of fans in the world, and the supports with bigger attendances are simply the ones who make more effort. It's the same here in Scotland with old firm lecturing the rest on attendances even though the vast majority of them go to no games.
When I was first watching Simon Jordan a few months ago I thought "who is this t*at" I changed my view the more I watch him. Very intelligent man, exceptional vocabulary and can back up his points instantly.
Well I think hes an arbitrary, self appointed egotist who plays to the crowd. At least he thinks Ollies a fraud and makes Jim White look like the shouty man he is. So yeah fill your boots. If I had 24 hours to prepare my points I would back mine up instantly as well.
I’m a Liverpool fan and we all know Manchester is red man city has always been overshadowed by them and the fan base shows , history is more important than money
Supporter growth was always going to be hard when you're in close proximity to Man Utd Liverpool and Everton...Leeds Newcastle Aston Villa West Ham would've been a much better investment for the Arabs supporter growth wouldn't be a problem
Bruh its a soulles club, you can go and buy everything you want but you cant buy fans. You cant buy the love and passion for your club that fans feel, incredible to see the time where one of the biggest and best clubs in the world needs to begg for the fans to come to the stadium. That says it all, soulles club
Villa spent a couple of years in the third division, 50 years later we still hold the record attendance for that league of over 48,000. We played Man Utd in a league cup semi final at Villa Park while we were in the third division and pulled in just under 59,000. Not bad for a club City fans have been calling small all summer because they nicked a player off us.
Hahahahahah as a Blackpool fan Manchester city's trophy room is shite compared to villas . Villa are a huge club with a huge following of die hard supporters , the team haven't been turning up and man cities have but dont anyone compare city fans to Aston villa fans . Villa are different gravy
I'm Villa, I've always had a soft spot for Manchester City going back to the 80s. I identify with their fans who have had some very dark days ie: 2nd, 3rd division etc. They are a big club in my opinion, just like Villa are plus Everton Leeds Newcastle Sunderland to name a few.
@@villatrinity3518 I don't disagree, I had a soft spot for them too, partly because I used to look forward to going to Maine Road, there was a chippy near the ground that did a Meat n potato pie, mushy peas, chips and gravy that I looked forward to once a year. I was gutted every time they were relegated. Alas the chippy has gone the way of the humble City fan and with them my soft spot for the club.😊
He didn't say anything about real supporters, he said 'life and death'. I think he's stating that generally speaking Man City fans have more than football on their minds.
More of a average size club tbf, football is not life and death but a lot of hardcore fans see it that way, there are more important things in life going on and the City fans seem to be getting that..but that’s just from my perspective anyways.
Because they are it doesn't matter how many trophies they win or even overtake United in major honours they will still be seen as a small club by neutrals because before Oil money they were a midtable side and even got relegated several times
3 games coming up - Chelsea, Liverpool and PSG - for working class people it's just not affordable. City fans decide to sacrifice the mid-week on tv, nothing game we were always going to win. Seasons tickets also isn't the answer because of travel, food, time etc. United, Liverpool have millions of real fans and millions more glory fans due to their success in the past 50 years, it's easier to fill the stadium when tickets are in short supply each week, City simply don't have a large fanbase, one big reason is we're next door to the biggest club in the world, most people in Manchester are United
Then city fans need to just be honest about the fact they don't have the fan base to fill out there stadiums week in week out and stop making piss poor excuses
This is exactly why city are not considered a big club. They've taken a huge shortcut to success whereas the true big clubs like man utd, Liverpool, bayern Munich etc grew their clubs legitimately over a long period of time growing their fanbase.
@@ZeekoRamen Sorry mate but utd are self made through their own means, city and Chelsea took a mass handout from a sugar daddy and in city's case a sugar STATE!
@@philbarton2832 its worse tho making ur money by selling out to tourists like utd did. better to take a big cheque from one guy then have thousands of non manc in old trafford every week
@@fuzzman9298 Football is a global sport so of course utd capitalised on the huge market that's just good business. Who are you to question someone's loyalty to a club? No matter where a fan comes from they're still a fan if they support and love the club in fact there are many fans who live far away that are more die hard than local fans.
@@philbarton2832 bah man they have no connection with the town or the place. football is about supporting ur local club. its bot a good thing how utd became a souless buisness more interested in making noney than there own local fans
City have some of the cheapest tickets around you could of got tickets last night for as cheap as £20, other tickets were going for £35, City have a hardcore of 35000, fans that's it,
still not cheap enough. obviously. if they were cheap enough then people would go. all football clubs over value themselves when it comes to ticket prices.
“beg” he didn’t beg u guys just took it out of context bc the only thing y’all can do is run y’all’s mouths about city bc it’s all u can do. i swear fans like you chat more abt my club more than ur own
So in 2011/2012 when Liverpool were at the bottom of the league we were filling stadiums. When we were finishing 8th we were selling out and still people were scratching around to buy tickets. We’ve always sold out.
Jordan hit the nail on the head…‘manufactured club by a rich country’ much like manufactured pop bands from TV shows in years gone by. Joke, plastic club.
Unfortunately unlike One Direction your wet dream where City "go away" when our owner "gets bored" will not come to pass. The trouble is you spout your bile filled nonesense without doing any research. City are mainly owned by one man of course - not a country but are now partly Chinese and partly US owned as part of City Football Group. Our Chairman has outlined the plan for the next 10 years and I hope we continue to make bitters like you choke on your crass rhetorical whimsies for the foreseeable future. Enjoy.
The comparison to manufactured pop groups doesn't really work as the quality of manufactured pop is vastly inferior to real musicians. Whereas in football, City, Chelsea Leipzig and other 'plastic' clubs are not inferior in quality to less plastic clubs such as United and Arsenal. Regardless of whether they're manufactured or not, you have to admit City are far more entertaining to watch than most other teams. I'm a United fan and they're dire to watch. For entertainment I'd rather watch Liverpool, City and Chelsea. The latter two in that list could fit your description of plastic clubs.
Local area fans? Have you heard yourself 😂 like fans of every other club travel hundreds of miles to watch their team 😂. And does it not say something IF people are willing to hundreds of miles to watch a team or to make a “tourists trip” to see other clubs, why they’re unwilling to do it to see city? 😂
Say it until you're happy. Man City fans will show up for the games they care about. It's football, not life or death. If you think our fanbase is too lukewarm and it upsets you, go jump in a river. Or do something worse, I don't care
The crazy thing is they are only 90% full in Premier League games because opposition fans buy tickets pretending to be home fans. I've done it, I know people who've done it, also their tickets are like less than half the price of West ham or Tottenham ticket prices. Its literally nothing to do with pricing, they don't have fans.
I’ve family in schools over near there, they’re always giving them away in schools, admirable but still can’t even fill it and they’re giving tickets away 😂😂
Because they live in close proximity to Man Utd Liverpool and Everton...It was a mistake for the Arabs to invest in City. Leeds Newcastle West Ham Villa wouldn't have any problems with supporter growth if they had investment and success
@@ToddyG645 Actually they have hijacked the manchester name and used it intelligently to grow a brand into a supercompany. Do you think 20,000 empty seats makes a difference to them?
i understand why sometimes we dont fill are stadium but its becoming a joke city fans need to come to the matches every other club has working class fans
@Nick Saunders I’m sorry but it’s simply because your in the same city as Man Utd what man in his right mind would have chose to support Man City growing up very small number
It's because city don't have the same glamour and history of other big teams, they were a small team that bought there way to the top. It's not a fairy tale like United after the Munich disastar, city are just a very unlovable football club.
There is a romance to football. The rebirth of Utd after Munich, Shankly at Liverpool, La Masia at Barca. I think people are understanding that how you win things is also important.
Tbf United/Liverpool are a different animals. And are the only English European Giants. City will take time to grow. Just like Chelsea. Now Chelsea have glory hunters all in Africa and Asia.
Bottlechester United flip flop club a toxic yanky doodle club, slapped by Swiss farmers the Penaldo hype train go's up in smoke 😂 no league title in nearly 10 year's ohh Bottlechester we do ohh Bottlechester We do ohh Bottlechester we do Bottlechester we love you 😂
@@mill8259 where did you get that from? You can't even debate my statement because you know it's a true statement, Man City didn't grow naturally therefore they are a franchise to me. I believe in tradition not in what Man City are.
Funny how none of the other big clubs ( Liverpool, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs) have this problem. PS : Feel so bad for Pep as this man has built one hell of a football team/identity and have to endure such mediocrity.
Surely the fact that City share the city with United a much bigger club for decades with probably the majority of Manchester supportering the bigger club has a massive impact on the numbers in the fan base of Man City as a club? City might well be a better club winning more than Utd but their still playing catch up as the noisey neighbours...
@@blueviper3861 As Utd as a club or even a business would probably say they don't care to much once the money and fans are coming in.. City's fan base might well be more hard core or local, but it amost goes with the territory as a big club that you gain aload of fans from all over the globe which you need to sustain the business model and business
I live in the US so please excuse my confusion with the caller. He's been critical of the fact that a % of United fans are tourists. But isn't that a badge of honour pointing to the fact that United has a global fan base?
Of course it is you’re right, the man is a waffler. Why wouldn’t any fan love to have a full stadium with people coming from around the world to join with local supporters- especially on European nights./ For example, I’ve seen videos from Liverpool where they win a big champions league game and people around the world lose their minds. Klopp said the same; everywhere they go in the world there are supporters. Brilliant. Man United would be a similar situation no doubt. City just can’t command that kind of global appeal🤷🏼♀️* * will caveat that there will be some with a tourist mentality will see it as simply a outing rather than be a staunch supporter, which can dull an atmosphere in parts, but that’s part and parcel of being a big club and not the majority
Even he knows it, their stadium is the emptihad, there literally a picture of Grealish celebrating and there’s no fans behind him This is a UCL game at HOME and fans can’t even turn up I would’ve said it more straight up but well done Pep👏🏾
Are you serious m8 20% of the stadium was left behind for the away fans to fill and they never showed up that's not on city Moreover don't get Pep wrong he needs that same energy on Saturday game because the players have just 24hrs to rest and go again on Saturday and they're going to be tired he needs the same atmosphere that's a motivation imo He did no mistake saying that we have fans and we can fill the stadium if there's the need The media are just trying to drag this because they hv no better job doing than to fuel a fire that's already burnt out Did you watch barcelona vs Bayern's game city's stadium was much better I think The young boys annihilation has gotten into ur head ain't it
@@CityTalk01 so the attendance is 30k something with 20k empty seats? so theres around 20k Leipzig fans didnt turn up? keep telling that to yourself someday you might actually start believing it.
For 3 years I’ve been on the queue of 40k + people competing for tickets to LFC games and had zero luck. City fans have the privilege of accessing tickets but still don’t go. Let’s be honest City don’t have a big fan base
Hilarious how no other big team has never come close to having this problem. Even when Leeds were in league one they would still sell out every week at Elland road.
Correct....Liverpool is hard core, as Bill Shankly once said, " Football is not about life & death...It's more important" 😁 YNWA.....City are just not a big club, as the media likes to paint them, they've got a very rich country backing them financially (including fidling the income) but they're not a big club 😏
@Lee Petersson If you understand theology as the great man Shanks did What that saying means, is this , you are an animal that survives, its compulsive, food sex, sleep, just a compulsive bag of meat Unless you have things that mean more to you than just being an instinctive compulsive animal The lowest form of human evolution (no longer physical , as that's finished its now mental evolution) is compulsive action So Shanks is suggesting that this great art of human experience is more important than eating and shitting, to the evolution of mankind
@@lrtvhighlights3687 any big club with a very large global fan base will have some “tourists”, but they also have people around the world who are devoted to the club and would love to be at Anfield. Nothing to be sneered at, at all. Saw the montage of supporters across about 50 countries after the UCL win, its great.
The guy said Liverpool fans go “a step to far” but the context here is: filling the stadium and creating an atmosphere which will propel the team on, esp in Europe and knockouts. 😂 this man’s a waffling contradiction. Simon won’t pull him up because he actually expected “objectivity” from a defensive City fan, for some strange reason 🥴
They just don't have as many fans... Why is that a big deal!? When I was a kid, I rarely met kids who supported Chelsea - nowadays, I see kids jn the latest Chelsea kit all the time. Man City have less fans - so what?
@@johnmalone1713 still many empty seats, this is not even the first time this happen. Everyone know the owner bought all the unsold ticket to cook up their book.
It's empty banter, as it's easier to win trophies than it is to win fans. United are at the opposite end of the spectrum to City, as the Glazers have 76,000 trophyless hostages to inside Old Trafford week in, week out.
City hasn’t been full regularly for a ages. Empty seats all over the gaff. Tickets going for 15£ to UCL games is ridiculous. After 10 years of trophies you’d think the fan base would have grew…
It's not the first time Man City fans have been questioned about their support. And maybe it being "Life and death" is the reason Liverppol and Chelsea can win a champions League. Man City seem to act like they deserve to win it. If Liverppol were playing Lepzeig I'd be looking forward to it, because they're a really good team.
We deserve to win the PL, and we show up in numbers week in - week out and support our team. Truth is, Man City most of our fans don't start caring about the Champions league until QF. Because there's no excitement in beating a poor Leipzig side at home.
@@stanleye9721 I'm sorry chap but your excuse for non attendance is 'garbage', true supporters go to ANY game (providing they can ..a. afford it (tickets were reduced last night, correct .....b. they can get time of work ... c. Wife/girlfriend won't let them ... ) ...'Glory supporters' pick & choose' their games ......
@@stanleye9721 how is there no excitement in beating leipzig? as a city fan you should feel excitement beating every team you play in every competition. i’ve got a season ticket for liverpool. go every game regardless of opposition or competition. i take time off work and make the hours up so i can attend, as do most fans of the top 6 clubs. why are city fans different?
I used to think Man City fans reputation for not being able to take critique was slack, but this fan just made me realise I’m deluding myself: they really cannot hear a bad word about their club
The real reason the city owner paid for the flights and tickets for the champions league final was because hardly any city fans were going to go, so to save the embarrassment he paid for everything, you might be able to buy trophies but you can't buy fans. Little plastic club. 😂😂😂
Imagine being the "best" team in England and not filling your stadium. Joke club. cant even say ticket prices are too much, group stage games are discounted.
Can't we agree to the fact that they share a city with the most famous football team in the world ? I mean they are a great team but they have been great only recently, still a big club
Liverpool have thousands of tourist fans for every game. They come from all over the world and UK. Man City don't have that history yet. Their support base is Manchester based.
That caller gave the weakest argument I’ve ever heard. We aren’t “life and death” but we are hardcore? Simon could have easily dismantled him but chose not to. They let him off way to easy. We are so successful we can’t go to all the games….rubbish!
@@TheBillABCTV they’ve discounted a lot of tickets... Leeds, Newcastle, Liverpool- all very working class cities but the fans turn up consistently. That’s the reality for most football clubs. Champions league games are probably the most important fixtures and yes, that includes group stages unless the fans are numbed by success and take it for granted that turning up won’t matter In reality, City appear to have a *relatively* small number of staunch supporters but the rest are clearly complacent with their success, take getting out of the group for granted (even if it was, you’d turn up to the games no matter what because you actually enjoy watching the team🥴) and know the price of everything and value of nothing. A successful club thanks to their sheiks, now desperately trying to manufacture a soul and wider resonance
@@96s40 Also the Champions League goes on too long. I rather they have the same number of Clubs in Champions league, I rather no Groups stage, so the normal Group stage would be 3rd Round Knockout 2 legs. For me to make it exciting I like yo see it all knockout. The stages I would have it are: 1st Qualifying Round [2 legs], 2nd Qualifying Round [2 Legs], 3rd Qualifying Round [2 Legs], 1st Round [2 legs], 2nd Round [2 legs], 3rd Round [2 legs], 4th round [2 legs], 5th Round/Quarter Finals [2 legs], Semi Finals [2 Legs] and then Champions League Final [1 leg]. Who ever normally enters in at the Group stage that would be 3rd Round, all stages would have 2 legs except for the final. Knock out to me would be more exciting to be honest. Yes 4 Clubs from EPL enter the Champions League in Knockout format the group stage would be 3rd round in Knockout. The Scottish Champions in current format enter at Playoff Round that would become 2nd Round. I wish that UEFA would consider doing that at some point.
The fans that were helping fill their stadium in the past were just there for the new situation. Now they are used to winning, they won't turn up until the finals. The rest are just the every day fans that have been there since before the money, but there's really not all that many of them.
Newcastle fans are more loyal than Man City, near 50,000 home games, despite no major trophy win since 1969 and tepid football for years, always sell out away tickets despite travelling the longest distances.
half of liverpools fans are tourists , but have a far bigger fanbase , city fans have become complacent over the years with the amount of success they have enjoyed .
Maybe because most people in Manchester would rightly support Man Utd even if they’re on a low atm they’re 10x bigger than Man City could ever be, Sunderland are a bigger club than city. You can’t buy class lads.
I live in Lancashire and you do see a lot of young lads playing football in Man City shirts… but what you tend to find is there dads and grandads are Preston, Blackburn or Burnley fans who couldn’t give one about going to city games.
Man City can't fill their stadium whilst playing in the Premier League each fuckin week let alone playing in Europe which got a frankly says it all. They haven't got the fan base. They aren't a world wide club. Poor Grealish played in a full stadium every week when at Villa but now he's playing in a badly half full stadium at the Emptyhad 😂 Utterly embarrassing
@@mishael8336 Yeah now they think there bigger than Arsenal easily 3 to 4 Arsenal fans for every Chelsea fan in London hence why they don't update there stadium cause they know they can't fill it even Spurs have a bigger fan base.
I’m basically on minimum wage and live in Northern Ireland , loved United since I can remember . Still manage too get to 2 or 3 game a season easily ,That’s flights , hotel and cost of eating and drinking for a day or two . Your telling me people that live beside the stadium can’t afford to get to a game embarrassing banter club.
@@paulw6183 60 quid mate, it’s not 200, you can make sacrifices for 60 quid….I’ve never earnt top whack but if I wanna go to things I just make sure I sacrifice needless stuff.I bet half of them who are saying they can’t go the game smash a loada ciggies and spend money on shite through the week and then moan they can’t go the match for 60 quid, alright yeh I suppose if ya wanna pint etc it might take it up to a 100 quid. Depends how much ya want it I suppose
Have you got a wife and children. Remember it's not just £60 per ticket, when your children want to go. Then it goes into hundreds of pounds. When a person only earns 250/300 pounds per week, with a family. It's not possible.
It's sad seeing how the City fanbase has changed. Maine Road was my favourite away years ago. Proper hostile atmosphere and as loud as you will find anywhere in the country. Feel for that lot who have clearly been priced out of the game. Modern City fans don't deserve the success their team gives them
It was £12.50 for a ticket for a CL game... nobody has been priced out...City was never the right club to invest in when you got Man Utd Liverpool and Everton in close proximity..Leeds Newcastle Aston Villa West Ham would've been a much better investment supporter growth wouldn't have been a problem
@@ToddyG645 your just bitter that city are better than united now. Don’t cry! We was the perfect club to invest in. Our fans are class but if you believe media then your choice
@@saranshsharma4005 Biggest average attendances in England even before fergie had the biggest attendances in the old second division despite LFC winning everything...Man Utd support has always been on another level
Pep calling out Citys own fans... wonder how theyll play this one off when its not just rival fans that notice their lack of atmosphere and unfull stadiums
Their fan base isn't big enough to fill stadiums that consistently. Takes time to build a fan base in football, rarely do fans change allegiances so to expand beyond manchester will take a generation or two of success. There will be a lot of United fans out there due to the success in the 90s and class of 92 etc. A similar thing could happen for city in the future based on their current success
I’d say your spot on, as a toon fan I know that if we were playing football like City we’d 100% be the opposite, not enough tickets to go around can’t say we aren’t a working class area either
@@mcfcok1683 no doubt Man city is the fastest growing "brand" growing to in excess of 100 million social media followers but by the same standard Manchester United will have 800 million + and easily fill a 76k stadium while city struggle with 55k. I'm sure in time it will improve but they still don't have the fan base of more historically successful clubs
@@ironheade22 what? 🤣🤣🤣 You haven't bought into it because you can't win it . You lot think you entitled to win it but your not, every other fan base in the world knows how big the champions League is. Fa cup? You having a laugh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@LeonsCorner. I was honestly more bothered when we lost the FA Cup final to Wigan compared to when we lost the CL final to Chelsea. I also get more excited/anxious for league games against the top clubs than I was for the CL final. I'm sorry if you think it's mint but I really don't see what the fuss is about, it's barely even worth watching until April
@@ironheade22 so what your saying is Man City fans do not view their own club as being a proper club, your telling me basically that you don't rate the champions League, the most prestigious club cup competition in the world. you rate the domestic cups better because you have done well in them, you are the English champions and you absolutely love that title, but you have never been the champions of Europe as much as you try and this is the reason you have no love affair with it. Small club mentality.
@@ironheade22 barely even worth watching until April? Tell that to all the other club supporter's that show up throughout the group stages in their numbers. Joke of a fan base
Small club mentality on perfect show there: this City fan is going on about how they're well-supported because of that time they were in League One 30 years ago. I guess they all miss those good old days, then? I doubt Pep would consider that a benchmark of big club success
Support per decade biggest gates for City 1920s 80,000, 1930s 85,000, 1950s 76,000+, 1960s 66,000, 1970s 63,000+ no club bettered those figures in those decades and put into perspective lpool`s biggest gate is a one off 61,000 and the biggest league gate is 58,000.
Hugely passionate fans come from parents passing down their support to their kids and going to games week in week out. Unfortunately the singing and passion in City’s stadium has lacked for a long time and this is probably due to the lack of generational support rising at the same trend as the clubs success. Due to more recent success more children are supporting City, but the passion does not run as true. When young Man City fans have children of their own, that’s when City will fill stadiums and sing as loud as other clubs... it’s just a matter of time.
Possible, but we are talking about a period of 30 years till the next generation arrives. I don't think City will dominate the next 30 years. Reason being that the Oil states are gonna go back to their caves in the next 20 years.
Hilarious - you should be on stage. Not enough crying emojis to be truly funny though. You need at least 5 to be ranked as high as some of the comedians on here.
@@lil_zadeh6064 rounding off your question by saying my idea is stupid is not a good way to get an answer. Try being more polite with people in future ✌️
As an LFC fan, Man Citeh should be thanked for the quality of football they have made standard in the EPL, I think they are simply having to catch up as a fan base having risen so far so quickly. The top teams mentioned have 50/60 years of long time major support, Man Citeh will get there, they don’t look like they are going anywhere for a long time.
all teams started off somewhere and needed a golden era to become something. LFC were one of many until the 70's / 80s, Manu had their period 90s / 00's. Chelsea we a 2nd div club 30 years but now look at them. Jealoousy because it's now City's turn, 20 years time, someone elses. This conversation is just tribalism at it's worst usully by playground fans arguing "my dads bigger than you dad"
They don't fill stadiums because after they score they start playing boring football by passing to each other like they are on a training ground. Who wants to watch that
Last 4 home games - 5-0, 5-0, 5-0, 6-3 so yes dead boring - howd you go on against the cuckoo clock sellers, how did the park the bus tactic go? Exciting enough for you?
This is where Newcastle truly is a big club. We were still filling the stadium in the Championship, I know other fans will laugh at that statement, saying well if you're that big you wouldn't be there but still, could Man City and Chelsea turn a profit without the big owners??? They'd struggle
I went yesterday I can’t afford 50 quid for 2 tickets , £10 parking, 10-15 for fuel, maccies on the way for 2 people another 10 quid cause we leave soon as we finish work To get there on time through the traffic and road works, pint in the ground at 5 quid. And to go do it all again Saturday and Tuesday is a lot of money which people can’t and won’t do.
@@LeonsCorner. Please tell me how your one brain cell just got that from what he said? How does fans not being able to afford going 3 days a week equal not having a fanbase? We hqve a local, loyal fanbase.
@@LoneWolf-bd5sn your fans keep spouting that you have a local and loyal fan base, so what your saying is your fan base is not big enough and not loyal enough outside of your "local" supporters. Your not even the biggest club in Manchester never mind England it's embarrassing
Without saying anything positive about City fans, most Liverpool fans are enormous gloryhunters. Liverpool have about as many actual fans as Everton, plus millions of hangers on with no connection to the city.
90% of supporters of every team are working class..
Damn right
Except the chelsea shandyboys
bullgod94 fool
@@adidasboy3207 drop of raspberry in that lager dave Haha
Man United locals, yes. The thousands of glory supporters that come in every week not so much. Same goes for Liverpool.
Chelsea are just simply not a working class fan base in the most part.
City aren’t pulling in thousands of fans from all around the world but you can guarantee we’re a core family working class fan base who try their very best to get to all the games, it’s tough when you compete for every single trophy right to the very end as like I said we haven’t got world wide appeal just yet, should we be ashamed by that? People like that snob Simon Jordan wouldn’t have a clue, maybe why his club went bankrupt and has to get by on working for talkshite, poor sod
Citeh fans think they're the only working class people in a working class game 😂 bloody mongs
Like everyone in Liverpool lives in mansions🤣
How very PC - you're not very bright are you?
Bottlechester United flip flop club
Hahah loser pool
@@TT-hx9nj United fan's are meanly asain 80% of China are Bottlechester fan's
This is the case with every single football club. It’s a working class game.
Nope. City build that stadium with way too much capacity. They should've made it around 30k seats and option for more only for other events at the stadium. City just don't have enough fans, small club.
@@Muslimoftheuniverse Yes. Regardless of anything at all, every club is in the same boat. City are not the only club with 90% of the fans being working class. It’s the same for every club. End of discussion.
But Utds and Liverpool are historically successful with fans all over the world. When local working class fans are unfortunately priced out of buying there tickets or attending as frequently there are an almost endless stream of potential tourists or first time attendees to take that ticket. City just don't have that yet but they are still a good club
@@Ldoggmillionaire It’s the same for every big single big club. What is this unbelievable delusion? Lmao.
No some clubs are filled with middle class clowns who come for the prawn sandwiches. Manchester United , Chelsea are some of those clubs.
Man City are not a big club, they’re a rich club. Theres a difference
@@andy56018 argue with yourself, you know the truth. Before the money you were a joke. Can buy players but you cannot buy fans and worldwide appeal 🥲
@@andy56018 what you say may be true but Old Trafford still has a far better atmosphere than the Etihad, even if there are so many tourists
@@andy56018 my guy without money u were no better than Burnley. Ur a small club with money. With plastic supporters. Manny will always be red. Have u every been to the empty haid. Your club has to do 50% off for students to try to get a full stadium. And you still can’t fill it out. Old Trafford gets sold out attendance for the carbo cup or friendlies, and your plastic club can’t do it for champions league games!😂😂😂😂😂
@@andy56018 Yeah not everyone can be blessed with rich owners who made their club. Also, manny is red cause of how many fans we have. We haven’t been successful in nearly 8 years but we can still sell out our stadium 3x over for friendless or carbo cup games. While ur team can’t do it for champions league games. That’s the facts. U were nothing without oil. U buy the best players but can’t buy fans. I think only way you can sell out a stadium is by reducing the size by 30,000.
@@andy56018 But you can win all the trophies, but who can you celebrate with. Manny is always red. Anyways. We have more than double league titles than you have and have won the champions league before. On the other hand our owners only take from our club. We buy all our players through our revenue. City on the other hand with investment from owners cause they can’t generate any revenue. Plus when the super league happened no city fan was moaning. Ohhh right cause there plastic and only became fans after the takeover. Ur a small club mate with money. We had trophies before fergie. What did you have before the takeover!
City were selling tickets for the game at 50% off on UNiDAYS. Absolute joke of a club.
Thats great if all their fans are students. Joke of a comment.
They're known to go to schools handing out city kits and tickets to convince youngsters to support them, absolutely embarrassing.
Banter club. Always will be.
Why is the club a joke because they don’t have day trippers coming from China to go to a game? Or people coming up from London? Their fan base is solely in Manchester.
Could be worse could be Bottlechester United flip flop club
Man admitted city fans aren’t as passionate as the big clubs enough said we all know that already and now it’s confirmed
@Tim Brown no but it gives you a sense of pride as well as your club
@Tim Brown you’re clearly not a football fan kid. Literally you haven’t a clue why are you even here hahaha embarrassing. Have a lovely evening anyway.
@@thetruth1144 roy keane called out man uniteds 'prawn sandwich brigade'
@@shaunmaguire6912 the whole of city’s fan base is prawn sandwich brigade dead atmosphere with a full stadium hahaha.
Says the plastic Man Utd fan who has never set foot inside Old Trafford in his life.
I wish as City fans we'd just accept we're a small club and enjoy thr fact that we're a really good team that wins football matches.
You should see viewership City RUclips channel gets
Before wilting to Media Narrative.
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings wtf does that mean I watch Man City RUclips channel as a Man Utd fan it means nothing
Not a small club but a local club. You don’t yet have the nationwide/global appeal that United, Liverpool, etc have. There will be more kids that grow up to be City fans so it will be different in the future.
@@hellalive8973 plastic glory hunters you mean United had half empty old Trafford before the Fergie years Liverpool were irrelevent before Klopp came that's, what happens when you start winning trophies all the time you get glory supporters that aren't true City fans the real fans are the ones who suffered in the low leagues when the club was absolute trash compared to now
@@markpugh6808 city have been successful for a decade now and still lack a full stadium consistently, Liverpool may have been “irrelevant” but maintained a huge fan base, city just can’t increase their fan base for whatever reason.
The Emptyhad is a soulless bowl with little atmosphere. And even though City's success has gained fans abroad you can't magic up new fans in the UK
Good. That would be awful anyway.
Power to the people your a empty head
You can build new fans in the UK and it’s happening for City right now. The amount of kids knocking about wearing City tops today is a lot higher than what it used to be when I was at school and I’m 33 years old.
All the kids when I was younger were supporters of either United and Liverpool. Why’s that? The same reason why you see more kids today wearing City kits.
Loook at Chelsea, loads of kids support them now. Previously Londoners supported Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham in larger numbers.
I bet you’ve never even been.
90% of most fans are working class, other clubs still fill their stadiums. Embarrassing when your manager feels the need to ask people to turn up for a league game against Southampton. Real fans would be there. Some people can’t make it due to work, but if they’re as big as they say they are then surely there are others who would die for a ticket. Nope, not this lot.
@Jay Wills-faisca but they aren’t, and they do so……..
@Jay Wills-faisca ???? soooo what's your point ? manchester city and united are both in the premier league and champions league and trust me you will never see an old trafford as empty as yesterday's etihad stadium lol. What an embarrassement not turning up for a big game against a not so bad bundesliga team
United have had 30 years of being at the top and collecting supporters from all other the country, who now go to games. Half of Essex would go to a united game if they can get a ticket.
City not had the same time to get supporters, so only locals will go to games.
Thanks to Ollie Man United normally have only one game a week due to being knocked out of every competition early and Klopp cheats by exiting the domestic competitions early. Man City supporters have more fixtures a season than anybody else in the PL
This is the dumbest logic. You talk like every club has the same number of fans in the world, and the supports with bigger attendances are simply the ones who make more effort. It's the same here in Scotland with old firm lecturing the rest on attendances even though the vast majority of them go to no games.
When I was first watching Simon Jordan a few months ago I thought "who is this t*at"
I changed my view the more I watch him. Very intelligent man, exceptional vocabulary and can back up his points instantly.
Same😃
Same
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Verbose
Well I think hes an arbitrary, self appointed egotist who plays to the crowd. At least he thinks Ollies a fraud and makes Jim White look like the shouty man he is. So yeah fill your boots. If I had 24 hours to prepare my points I would back mine up instantly as well.
I’m a Liverpool fan and we all know Manchester is red man city has always been overshadowed by them and the fan base shows , history is more important than money
Supporter growth was always going to be hard when you're in close proximity to Man Utd Liverpool and Everton...Leeds Newcastle Aston Villa West Ham would've been a much better investment for the Arabs supporter growth wouldn't be a problem
@@ToddyG645 united is finished club
Liverpool is blue ya prick
@@ToddyG645 I'd say Leeds and Newcastle one City clubs with huge catchment areas.
@@factspk373 United is a finished club. What the hell are you talking about .
Bruh its a soulles club, you can go and buy everything you want but you cant buy fans. You cant buy the love and passion for your club that fans feel, incredible to see the time where one of the biggest and best clubs in the world needs to begg for the fans to come to the stadium. That says it all, soulles club
Just shut up man
That's because city aren't a big club
@@mickcolton6147 shut up you too
@@mickcolton6147 The fans have their reasons...did u even watch the video?
Yeah, I have to agree. Small club.
90% of most clubs fan base is working class. Completely nonsense argument.
Yeah because 90% of Liverpool fans are living in Council estate and have no money but they still fill their stadium
Working class. But many are really working ?
@@androsc1418 yes most are working. What is your point?
If they are working, they’ll have no time. If they are not, they’ll not be able to afford the high ticket prices. That may explain the empty stadium
@@daramelia848 most of their fans are glory hunters from the 70s, 80s and their kids. Give it a couple of decades and City won’t have this problem.
Villa spent a couple of years in the third division, 50 years later we still hold the record attendance for that league of over 48,000.
We played Man Utd in a league cup semi final at Villa Park while we were in the third division and pulled in just under 59,000.
Not bad for a club City fans have been calling small all summer because they nicked a player off us.
Villa are a great club full of history with a loyal following. I’m a Middlesbrough fan btw.
Aston Villa is a bigger club than Man city
Hahahahahah as a Blackpool fan
Manchester city's trophy room is shite compared to villas . Villa are a huge club with a huge following of die hard supporters , the team haven't been turning up and man cities have but dont anyone compare city fans to Aston villa fans . Villa are different gravy
I'm Villa, I've always had a soft spot for Manchester City going back to the 80s. I identify with their fans who have had some very dark days ie: 2nd, 3rd division etc. They are a big club in my opinion, just like Villa are plus Everton Leeds Newcastle Sunderland to name a few.
@@villatrinity3518 I don't disagree, I had a soft spot for them too, partly because I used to look forward to going to Maine Road, there was a chippy near the ground that did a Meat n potato pie, mushy peas, chips and gravy that I looked forward to once a year. I was gutted every time they were relegated.
Alas the chippy has gone the way of the humble City fan and with them my soft spot for the club.😊
Ha ha City fan telling us why exactly why "it means more" at Liverpool. Real supporters 💪
Murderers you mean
He didn't say anything about real supporters, he said 'life and death'.
I think he's stating that generally speaking Man City fans have more than football on their minds.
The man city fan is just sour because his club is still seen as small 🤣
They won't be for long mate
More of a average size club tbf,
football is not life and death but a lot of hardcore fans see it that way, there are more important things in life going on and the City fans seem to be getting that..but that’s just from my perspective anyways.
@@domjfp AGREED
Don't think he cares tbh when his team is winning the title and a cup every year. Most fans isn't a trophy you know.
Because they are it doesn't matter how many trophies they win or even overtake United in major honours they will still be seen as a small club by neutrals because before Oil money they were a midtable side and even got relegated several times
3 games coming up - Chelsea, Liverpool and PSG - for working class people it's just not affordable. City fans decide to sacrifice the mid-week on tv, nothing game we were always going to win. Seasons tickets also isn't the answer because of travel, food, time etc. United, Liverpool have millions of real fans and millions more glory fans due to their success in the past 50 years, it's easier to fill the stadium when tickets are in short supply each week, City simply don't have a large fanbase, one big reason is we're next door to the biggest club in the world, most people in Manchester are United
Then city fans need to just be honest about the fact they don't have the fan base to fill out there stadiums week in week out and stop making piss poor excuses
This is true we don't have the global fan bases the others do yet its going to take a long time for us to catch up
Calling united plastic fans when city are nothing more than a plastic club 🙄
Always going to win? Numpty
This is true, but the fan base will be there in 10/15 years time as City slowly catch up with United.
This is exactly why city are not considered a big club. They've taken a huge shortcut to success whereas the true big clubs like man utd, Liverpool, bayern Munich etc grew their clubs legitimately over a long period of time growing their fanbase.
Utd to be fair had a load of cash. Chelsea and Utd were the OG's of current Man City.
@@ZeekoRamen Sorry mate but utd are self made through their own means, city and Chelsea took a mass handout from a sugar daddy and in city's case a sugar STATE!
@@philbarton2832 its worse tho making ur money by selling out to tourists like utd did. better to take a big cheque from one guy then have thousands of non manc in old trafford every week
@@fuzzman9298 Football is a global sport so of course utd capitalised on the huge market that's just good business. Who are you to question someone's loyalty to a club? No matter where a fan comes from they're still a fan if they support and love the club in fact there are many fans who live far away that are more die hard than local fans.
@@philbarton2832 bah man they have no connection with the town or the place. football is about supporting ur local club. its bot a good thing how utd became a souless buisness more interested in making noney than there own local fans
City have some of the cheapest tickets around you could of got tickets last night for as cheap as £20, other tickets were going for £35, City have a hardcore of 35000, fans that's it,
Tickets were cheapest as £12.50 actually
Yeah city are known for having cheap tickets, especially compared to the other big clubs
Sounds like a bargain to me
@@StephenCarrIsBald it was 7.50 for under 18s as well
still not cheap enough. obviously. if they were cheap enough then people would go. all football clubs over value themselves when it comes to ticket prices.
Imagine being one of if not the best manager in the world and having too beg for fans to turn up🤣😭
Small club big money
“beg” he didn’t beg u guys just took it out of context bc the only thing y’all can do is run y’all’s mouths about city bc it’s all u can do. i swear fans like you chat more abt my club more than ur own
@@mill8259 bitter rags that's all.
@@FREE_WILL_DEFENDERuntrue .
@@garycross5753 city are elite anyways
So in 2011/2012 when Liverpool were at the bottom of the league we were filling stadiums. When we were finishing 8th we were selling out and still people were scratching around to buy tickets. We’ve always sold out.
Liverpool have had the most constantly strong squads for the last 50 years. They're very easy to follow.
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Jordan hit the nail on the head…‘manufactured club by a rich country’ much like manufactured pop bands from TV shows in years gone by. Joke, plastic club.
Unfortunately unlike One Direction your wet dream where City "go away" when our owner "gets bored" will not come to pass. The trouble is you spout your bile filled nonesense without doing any research. City are mainly owned by one man of course - not a country but are now partly Chinese and partly US owned as part of City Football Group. Our Chairman has outlined the plan for the next 10 years and I hope we continue to make bitters like you choke on your crass rhetorical whimsies for the foreseeable future. Enjoy.
The comparison to manufactured pop groups doesn't really work as the quality of manufactured pop is vastly inferior to real musicians. Whereas in football, City, Chelsea Leipzig and other 'plastic' clubs are not inferior in quality to less plastic clubs such as United and Arsenal.
Regardless of whether they're manufactured or not, you have to admit City are far more entertaining to watch than most other teams. I'm a United fan and they're dire to watch. For entertainment I'd rather watch Liverpool, City and Chelsea. The latter two in that list could fit your description of plastic clubs.
@@elonslawsuit5004 LOL... it's blood soaked oil money coming from ONE COUNTRY. Someone is in deep denial.
its like compare The beatles to one direction clearly Beatles real talent than 1D from tv shows
@@elonslawsuit5004 yeah but do you go to matches ???
There's not enough Citeh fans in the world to fill a stadium end of, it's a small club after all.
5 prems in the last 10 years is pretty good for a small club 😂😂
@@samarthsrivastava7782fuckin Norwich could have won the league 5 times in a decade if they had your budget mate.
@@peter6914 oh no I don't support city I am just saying calling them small would be a stretch 😂
@@peter6914 I mean United haven't been able to, they have spent almost equally
@@samarthsrivastava7782 not really given the unlimited money cheat they have had in that time
Local area fans? Have you heard yourself 😂 like fans of every other club travel hundreds of miles to watch their team 😂. And does it not say something IF people are willing to hundreds of miles to watch a team or to make a “tourists trip” to see other clubs, why they’re unwilling to do it to see city? 😂
Because they haven’t got as many fans, evidently. Why is that an issue though?
City have a very loyal fan base - hence the 30k when in league 1.
Say it until you're happy. Man City fans will show up for the games they care about. It's football, not life or death. If you think our fanbase is too lukewarm and it upsets you, go jump in a river. Or do something worse, I don't care
@@stanleye9721 said it all.💯 most of these trolls are united fans and they can't get over the young boys annihilation
@@stanleye9721 so you’re saying your fans only show up for the big games. correct. you’ve just proven simon’s point lol
@@XtraCheesePappy nah the entire PL is laughing at city rn
Emptyhad. They are a small club who have rich owners and the owners buy out seats at the stadium but they can't buy loyalty or fans
As a city fan i agree.
I mean it is true but perhaps city have fans that aren't just up for the champions league.
Iamknob would be a better handle tbh
@@nation360bd your not a CITY fan your a mug
Bottlechester United flip flop club
The crazy thing is they are only 90% full in Premier League games because opposition fans buy tickets pretending to be home fans. I've done it, I know people who've done it, also their tickets are like less than half the price of West ham or Tottenham ticket prices. Its literally nothing to do with pricing, they don't have fans.
I’ve family in schools over near there, they’re always giving them away in schools, admirable but still can’t even fill it and they’re giving tickets away 😂😂
Because they live in close proximity to Man Utd Liverpool and Everton...It was a mistake for the Arabs to invest in City. Leeds Newcastle West Ham Villa wouldn't have any problems with supporter growth if they had investment and success
@@ToddyG645 they have been allowed to buy large portions of Manchester for next to nothing.
Football club is secondary.
@@ToddyG645 Actually they have hijacked the manchester name and used it intelligently to grow a brand into a supercompany. Do you think 20,000 empty seats makes a difference to them?
@@braindonor8753 For what purpose...they haven't built anything that's not football related
that Man City fan (I'll give him the respect for being a life long fan without oil money coming in) is only making it look worse for Man Cheaty
i understand why sometimes we dont fill are stadium but its becoming a joke city fans need to come to the matches every other club has working class fans
Small club with a stadium bigger than there fan base
@Nick Saunders I’m sorry but it’s simply because your in the same city as Man Utd what man in his right mind would have chose to support Man City growing up very small number
@@footballequalslife7452 Yh we are a smaller club but still expect city to fill there stadium we have the fans but some reason they choose not to go .
@@Nick27676 it just seems like it’s a soulless club without identity I reckon you would have had more attendance had you not been taken over in 2009
@@footballequalslife7452 I disagree we do have a soul just because we have rich owners doesn’t take that away
It's because city don't have the same glamour and history of other big teams, they were a small team that bought there way to the top. It's not a fairy tale like United after the Munich disastar, city are just a very unlovable football club.
There is a romance to football. The rebirth of Utd after Munich, Shankly at Liverpool, La Masia at Barca. I think people are understanding that how you win things is also important.
Tbf United/Liverpool are a different animals. And are the only English European Giants. City will take time to grow. Just like Chelsea. Now Chelsea have glory hunters all in Africa and Asia.
Like Chel$ea.
Bottlechester United flip flop club a toxic yanky doodle club, slapped by Swiss farmers the Penaldo hype train go's up in smoke 😂 no league title in nearly 10 year's ohh Bottlechester we do ohh Bottlechester We do ohh Bottlechester we do Bottlechester we love you 😂
@@blueviper3861 Utd must of ruined your childhood as you have commented on every comment here. They’re rent free in your head🤣😭
A Manufactured Club. A franchise, nothing less nothing more.
that is the biggest load of bullshit i’ve ever heard in my life
@@mill8259 intelligent response
@John Knox mate ur just mad we have won the prem again
@@mill8259 where did you get that from? You can't even debate my statement because you know it's a true statement, Man City didn't grow naturally therefore they are a franchise to me. I believe in tradition not in what Man City are.
Funny how none of the other big clubs ( Liverpool, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs) have this problem.
PS : Feel so bad for Pep as this man has built one hell of a football team/identity and have to endure such mediocrity.
Never include big clubs and Spurs again. They are 4th biggest London in terms of support.
@@tomw6947 sorry about that mate
Chelsea aren't a big club either...they are successful for the same reason as man city and even had a 4-5 year head start
@@arhaan2004 Chelsea are a big club, they have won 2 Champions League trophies
@@rohithraman6488 Chelsea bought those. London is red and always will be. 💪 COYG
Surely the fact that City share the city with United a much bigger club for decades with probably the majority of Manchester supportering the bigger club has a massive impact on the numbers in the fan base of Man City as a club?
City might well be a better club winning more than Utd but their still playing catch up as the noisey neighbours...
Bottlechester United flip flop club slapped by Swiss farmers
Most Man City fans will say they have the bigger fanbase within Manchester itself.
@@blueviper3861 As Utd as a club or even a business would probably say they don't care to much once the money and fans are coming in.. City's fan base might well be more hard core or local, but it amost goes with the territory as a big club that you gain aload of fans from all over the globe which you need to sustain the business model and business
@@csb7376 Well they say are a big club, but who believes them
Look at the amount of London clubs there are wouldn’t say they ever had to ask for fans to turn up
I live in the US so please excuse my confusion with the caller. He's been critical of the fact that a % of United fans are tourists. But isn't that a badge of honour pointing to the fact that United has a global fan base?
It's jealousy on his part.
Of course it is you’re right, the man is a waffler. Why wouldn’t any fan love to have a full stadium with people coming from around the world to join with local supporters- especially on European nights./ For example, I’ve seen videos from Liverpool where they win a big champions league game and people around the world lose their minds. Klopp said the same; everywhere they go in the world there are supporters. Brilliant. Man United would be a similar situation no doubt. City just can’t command that kind of global appeal🤷🏼♀️*
* will caveat that there will be some with a tourist mentality will see it as simply a outing rather than be a staunch supporter, which can dull an atmosphere in parts, but that’s part and parcel of being a big club and not the majority
Even he knows it, their stadium is the emptihad, there literally a picture of Grealish celebrating and there’s no fans behind him
This is a UCL game at HOME and fans can’t even turn up
I would’ve said it more straight up but well done Pep👏🏾
If they signed Messi, they would sell out their stadium.
If u watched the match you'd knw that was the away end where less that 100 red bull fans were
That’s the away end behind Grealish btw. Not disagreeing entirely with you on the fans point, but had to point that bit out.
Are you serious m8 20% of the stadium was left behind for the away fans to fill and they never showed up that's not on city
Moreover don't get Pep wrong he needs that same energy on Saturday game because the players have just 24hrs to rest and go again on Saturday and they're going to be tired he needs the same atmosphere that's a motivation imo
He did no mistake saying that
we have fans and we can fill the stadium if there's the need
The media are just trying to drag this because they hv no better job doing than to fuel a fire that's already burnt out
Did you watch barcelona vs Bayern's game city's stadium was much better
I think The young boys annihilation has gotten into ur head ain't it
@@CityTalk01 so the attendance is 30k something with 20k empty seats? so theres around 20k Leipzig fans didnt turn up?
keep telling that to yourself someday you might actually start believing it.
For 3 years I’ve been on the queue of 40k + people competing for tickets to LFC games and had zero luck. City fans have the privilege of accessing tickets but still don’t go. Let’s be honest City don’t have a big fan base
Hilarious how no other big team has never come close to having this problem. Even when Leeds were in league one they would still sell out every week at Elland road.
yeah a few years ago they were lying about there home attendances and they now complain about other clubs mocking them 😂😂
Leeds is a bigger club than city simple
when city were in league one their average attendance was higher than leeds
Correct....Liverpool is hard core, as Bill Shankly once said, " Football is not about life & death...It's more important" 😁 YNWA.....City are just not a big club, as the media likes to paint them, they've got a very rich country backing them financially (including fidling the income) but they're not a big club 😏
Liverpool is not hardcore at all it's full of tourists
@Lee Petersson If you understand theology as the great man Shanks did
What that saying means, is this , you are an animal that survives, its compulsive, food sex, sleep, just a compulsive bag of meat
Unless you have things that mean more to you than just being an instinctive compulsive animal
The lowest form of human evolution (no longer physical , as that's finished its now mental evolution) is compulsive action
So Shanks is suggesting that this great art of human experience is more important than eating and shitting, to the evolution of mankind
"Life and death" makes 90% of your club's history, and more recently trying to bomb the City bus... it's literally what you lot are known for.
@@lrtvhighlights3687 any big club with a very large global fan base will have some “tourists”, but they also have people around the world who are devoted to the club and would love to be at Anfield. Nothing to be sneered at, at all. Saw the montage of supporters across about 50 countries after the UCL win, its great.
The guy said Liverpool fans go “a step to far” but the context here is: filling the stadium and creating an atmosphere which will propel the team on, esp in Europe and knockouts. 😂 this man’s a waffling contradiction. Simon won’t pull him up because he actually expected “objectivity” from a defensive City fan, for some strange reason 🥴
They just don't have as many fans... Why is that a big deal!?
When I was a kid, I rarely met kids who supported Chelsea - nowadays, I see kids jn the latest Chelsea kit all the time.
Man City have less fans - so what?
It's a big deal because they are supposed to be a big club
Man city highest crowd ever in England how is this possible if they have no fans I'll wait for you're reply dumbo 😂😂😂😂😂
@@johnmalone1713 still many empty seats, this is not even the first time this happen.
Everyone know the owner bought all the unsold ticket to cook up their book.
@@rbg75 🤡
It's empty banter, as it's easier to win trophies than it is to win fans.
United are at the opposite end of the spectrum to City, as the Glazers have 76,000 trophyless hostages to inside Old Trafford week in, week out.
Great side, good manager, small club, they’ve got a few new fans from abroad who couldn’t point Manchester out on a map
City hasn’t been full regularly for a ages. Empty seats all over the gaff. Tickets going for 15£ to UCL games is ridiculous.
After 10 years of trophies you’d think the fan base would have grew…
But full against PSG .
It's not the first time Man City fans have been questioned about their support.
And maybe it being "Life and death" is the reason Liverppol and Chelsea can win a champions League.
Man City seem to act like they deserve to win it. If Liverppol were playing Lepzeig I'd be looking forward to it, because they're a really good team.
We deserve to win the PL, and we show up in numbers week in - week out and support our team. Truth is, Man City most of our fans don't start caring about the Champions league until QF. Because there's no excitement in beating a poor Leipzig side at home.
@@stanleye9721 The truth is your plastic oil funded club and you can't buy history, tradition and raw passion for a club.
@@stanleye9721 I'm sorry chap but your excuse for non attendance is 'garbage', true supporters go to ANY game (providing they can ..a. afford it (tickets were reduced last night, correct .....b. they can get time of work ... c. Wife/girlfriend won't let them ... ) ...'Glory supporters' pick & choose' their games ......
@@stanleye9721 how is there no excitement in beating leipzig? as a city fan you should feel excitement beating every team you play in every competition. i’ve got a season ticket for liverpool. go every game regardless of opposition or competition. i take time off work and make the hours up so i can attend, as do most fans of the top 6 clubs. why are city fans different?
@@stanleye9721 but Chelsea sell out every home match until November, as tickets aren't available for then onward yet, including games against Malmö...
I used to think Man City fans reputation for not being able to take critique was slack, but this fan just made me realise I’m deluding myself: they really cannot hear a bad word about their club
Small club with money
Kane played in front of more fans for a Europa conference play off 😂😂
What a lunatic that city fan is 😆
Just love how we as a Liverpool fan are example when it comes to loyal fans. #YNWA 🔴
Yeah but that is put the test this year. There are bets out there for Klopp to leave this summer
Barca fill their stadium? Average 53000 (about the same as city) yet they have over 90000 capacity.
The real reason the city owner paid for the flights and tickets for the champions league final was because hardly any city fans were going to go, so to save the embarrassment he paid for everything, you might be able to buy trophies but you can't buy fans. Little plastic club. 😂😂😂
At least get your facts right you mug - ah but your not interested in facts are you just a line on your Citeh Bingo card?
@@elonslawsuit5004 shhh...small club...3000 Chelsea fans outsung 6000 City fans in the final. Small club.
I H.......As irrelevant as your comment ...You Chump......
@@swastikbarua110 ......Another shelfstacker with a irrelevant comment.......Full of sh.......
McFc no bigger than Wednesday traditionally , you can’t make fans can you
I was watching the game and it seemed like they were playing in a library.
@@TT-hx9nj or maybe his team played on Tuesday ya muppet
Who forced you to watch? If it annoys you how empty the stadium is, turn of the tV, or switch channels, see if we care.
Well I was watching it at the game and can assure you it wasn't, perhaps you should try the actual going to the games bit.
@@TT-hx9nj lol what a weirdo 🤣🤣
@@TT-hx9nj I don’t support liverpool you plastic chip shop
probably not enough city fans in manchester simple
Imagine being the "best" team in England and not filling your stadium. Joke club. cant even say ticket prices are too much, group stage games are discounted.
Can't we agree to the fact that they share a city with the most famous football team in the world ? I mean they are a great team but they have been great only recently, still a big club
Doesnt change the fact we will win more than you.. .you just have more losers watching
@@lightwarrior8785 I dunno about that pal, my team are the champions of Europe lol and the game i went to was sold out 🤷♂️
@@Roguenn you won a final through our own errors in team selection...stop getting giddy
@@lightwarrior8785 we've beat you 3 times in a row though haven't we?
Liverpool have thousands of tourist fans for every game. They come from all over the world and UK. Man City don't have that history yet. Their support base is Manchester based.
All big clubs are the same bro I agree
That caller gave the weakest argument I’ve ever heard. We aren’t “life and death” but we are hardcore? Simon could have easily dismantled him but chose not to. They let him off way to easy.
We are so successful we can’t go to all the games….rubbish!
Maybe not everyone can afford to go to games.
@@TheBillABCTV they’ve discounted a lot of tickets... Leeds, Newcastle, Liverpool- all very working class cities but the fans turn up consistently. That’s the reality for most football clubs. Champions league games are probably the most important fixtures and yes, that includes group stages unless the fans are numbed by success and take it for granted that turning up won’t matter
In reality, City appear to have a *relatively* small number of staunch supporters but the rest are clearly complacent with their success, take getting out of the group for granted (even if it was, you’d turn up to the games no matter what because you actually enjoy watching the team🥴) and know the price of everything and value of nothing. A successful club thanks to their sheiks, now desperately trying to manufacture a soul and wider resonance
@@96s40 Also the Champions League goes on too long. I rather they have the same number of Clubs in Champions league, I rather no Groups stage, so the normal Group stage would be 3rd Round Knockout 2 legs. For me to make it exciting I like yo see it all knockout. The stages I would have it are: 1st Qualifying Round [2 legs], 2nd Qualifying Round [2 Legs], 3rd Qualifying Round [2 Legs], 1st Round [2 legs], 2nd Round [2 legs], 3rd Round [2 legs], 4th round [2 legs], 5th Round/Quarter Finals [2 legs], Semi Finals [2 Legs] and then Champions League Final [1 leg]. Who ever normally enters in at the Group stage that would be 3rd Round, all stages would have 2 legs except for the final. Knock out to me would be more exciting to be honest. Yes 4 Clubs from EPL enter the Champions League in Knockout format the group stage would be 3rd round in Knockout. The Scottish Champions in current format enter at Playoff Round that would become 2nd Round. I wish that UEFA would consider doing that at some point.
@@TheBillABCTV you should WORK at UEFA
@@misterpractical I wish, I live in Australia, lock down since start of July here in Sydney.
Would much rather have a near full ground of local fans than a full ground of tourists.
Well said, couldn't agree more
Old trafford filled week in week out still people waiting can't get a ticket lol fan base not as world wide ad Liverpool too
GMP debunked that myth years ago........But keep on believing.....lol....
Pep saw the crowd United had on Saturday when Ronaldo returned and said “HOW???”
Penaldo slapped by farmers 😂
What a bunch of plastic Fans from London and Asia 🤣
Am still asking myself if Etihad would still be empty if Ronnie or Messi joined City.
@@blueviper3861 go feel a woman for the first time.
That game made every club jealousy of United because it was the best football atmosphere in the PL ever. Thay was crazy..
The fans that were helping fill their stadium in the past were just there for the new situation. Now they are used to winning, they won't turn up until the finals. The rest are just the every day fans that have been there since before the money, but there's really not all that many of them.
Cities plastic fan's are bored, they want a trophy every week lol.
You can buy some trophies but you can't buy passion and loyal supporters.
Newcastle fans are more loyal than Man City, near 50,000 home games, despite no major trophy win since 1969 and tepid football for years, always sell out away tickets despite travelling the longest distances.
Yeah but that's because there's nothing else to do in Newcastle
Yep. I’m a Man United fan and Newcastle and their fans deserve a better owner than City.
In the city of newcastle, there is only one premier league club. In manchester, there are two premier clubs...the other being MANCHESTER UNITED.
Dont make me laugh - have a look at your crowds when you were truly bobbins - Citys 3rd tier crowds would embarrass you
@@MrRyanlennie2005 Well, your trash team deserves a better manager than your current fraud but here we are
half of liverpools fans are tourists , but have a far bigger fanbase , city fans have become complacent over the years with the amount of success they have enjoyed .
Hahahhaha. The fan went into extreme defensive mode. Lol. Triggered.
Maybe because most people in Manchester would rightly support Man Utd even if they’re on a low atm they’re 10x bigger than Man City could ever be, Sunderland are a bigger club than city. You can’t buy class lads.
As a mancity fan, i would like to say i am embarrassed. these city fans doesnt deserve the khaladon family.
If you're a CIty fan then im the man in the moon you berk
I live in Lancashire and you do see a lot of young lads playing football in Man City shirts… but what you tend to find is there dads and grandads are Preston, Blackburn or Burnley fans who couldn’t give one about going to city games.
Yeah same in the 80's - Liverpool, same in the 90's - United and noughties - Arsenal. But guess what. They arent children forever.
Their Dads shouldn't let it get to that stage, that's the real problem and the reason why local teams fanbases dwindle.
@@villatrinity3518 100% agree
City lost there soul when they got the money 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Man City can't fill their stadium whilst playing in the Premier League each fuckin week let alone playing in Europe which got a frankly says it all. They haven't got the fan base. They aren't a world wide club. Poor Grealish played in a full stadium every week when at Villa but now he's playing in a badly half full stadium at the Emptyhad 😂 Utterly embarrassing
At least he acknowledged us Liverpool fans! ♥️
Doing it to try trigger United fans lol.
If you need a city fan to confirm that for you ,I dont know what to do for you 😂
The emptyhad always winds up the berties. 😂😂
Shitty chelsea had to start all of this
Old Trafford the swamp, Bottlechester United flip flop club slapped by Swiss farmers the other night 😂
Says the munichs
@@blueviper3861 You are as boring as your History wait a minute you didn't have one until Abu Dhabi rolled into Town 🤣🤣🤣
@@mishael8336 Yeah now they think there bigger than Arsenal easily 3 to 4 Arsenal fans for every Chelsea fan in London hence why they don't update there stadium cause they know they can't fill it even Spurs have a bigger fan base.
Must be nice to be able to buy ticket with no fuss though. Nightmare trying to get to Anfield
big money and small club.. simple
Bit like you really then.
I’m basically on minimum wage and live in Northern Ireland , loved United since I can remember . Still manage too get to 2 or 3 game a season easily ,That’s flights , hotel and cost of eating and drinking for a day or two . Your telling me people that live beside the stadium can’t afford to get to a game embarrassing banter club.
Not if they're charging 60 quid a ticket they won't
@@paulw6183 60 quid mate, it’s not 200, you can make sacrifices for 60 quid….I’ve never earnt top whack but if I wanna go to things I just make sure I sacrifice needless stuff.I bet half of them who are saying they can’t go the game smash a loada ciggies and spend money on shite through the week and then moan they can’t go the match for 60 quid, alright yeh I suppose if ya wanna pint etc it might take it up to a 100 quid. Depends how much ya want it I suppose
Have you got a wife and children. Remember it's not just £60 per ticket, when your children want to go. Then it goes into hundreds of pounds. When a person only earns 250/300 pounds per week, with a family. It's not possible.
It's sad seeing how the City fanbase has changed. Maine Road was my favourite away years ago. Proper hostile atmosphere and as loud as you will find anywhere in the country. Feel for that lot who have clearly been priced out of the game. Modern City fans don't deserve the success their team gives them
It hasn’t changed it’s just your perception has changed
bullshite,, maine road = big shitehole,, mediocre back then,,, !!
It was £12.50 for a ticket for a CL game... nobody has been priced out...City was never the right club to invest in when you got Man Utd Liverpool and Everton in close proximity..Leeds Newcastle Aston Villa West Ham would've been a much better investment supporter growth wouldn't have been a problem
@@ToddyG645 your just bitter that city are better than united now. Don’t cry! We was the perfect club to invest in. Our fans are class but if you believe media then your choice
@@weSnooker what u on about ? U are just a toy to sheikh once he gets bored of you lot and decide to sell u will go back to fighting relegation .
Celtic and rangers have more every week, bigger than city
Last night Man City’s first game felt like a library. Where as Liverpool at Anfield was full and vibrant.
They would fill their stadiums if they signed Messi.
@@TT-hx9nj league 1 showing up uefa. Nice to hear that lower league fans supported like that
@@aryan.4855 Of course it’s Messi ain’t it
@@TT-hx9nj :/
Comparing Man City to Liverpool is the same as comparing the Lion and the Lamb.
Pep "inviting" fans. Are you going to pay their ticket out of your own pocket then Josep?
It was the away stand that empty only a few seats here and there was empty
@@joshuapage7090 we’re not really here💙
Hey at least Manchester United can draw enough tourist to fill the stadium even whn we play Stroke City mate 😉👍
Yeah because all of you are a bunch of Glory hunters.
And that's a straight fact
Glory hunters we ain’t won nothing in 8years and we still fill our stadium lol
@@saranshsharma4005 Biggest average attendances in England even before fergie had the biggest attendances in the old second division despite LFC winning everything...Man Utd support has always been on another level
@@saranshsharma4005 what glory have united had recently?
@@starlord3496 GMP debunked that myth years ago......PMSL.........
Small club in stature , just financially big .
It's a long trip from Stockport to the emptyhad.
They are almost giving tickets away for Euro games, so much so even I considered going last night and I'm not even a fan. In the end I saw sense.
Just like Chelsea with no history
@@yt_lucid381 Chelsea have more history they weren’t a mid table team like Man City before the take over
You missed a nine goal thriller.
Oh well.....
@@footballequalslife7452 before roman and his money yes Chelsea was a mid table team
Have they ever filled the stadium? If yes then when they don't turn up they just don't turn up.
Small club with no european history, wtf you expect 🤣🤣🤣
Pep calling out Citys own fans... wonder how theyll play this one off when its not just rival fans that notice their lack of atmosphere and unfull stadiums
Their fan base isn't big enough to fill stadiums that consistently. Takes time to build a fan base in football, rarely do fans change allegiances so to expand beyond manchester will take a generation or two of success. There will be a lot of United fans out there due to the success in the 90s and class of 92 etc. A similar thing could happen for city in the future based on their current success
Hahaha this is so incorrect lmao, we have an insanely big fanbase that’s definitely not the reason
@@mcfcok1683 hmm...nope.
I’d say your spot on, as a toon fan I know that if we were playing football like City we’d 100% be the opposite, not enough tickets to go around can’t say we aren’t a working class area either
@@mcfcok1683 no doubt Man city is the fastest growing "brand" growing to in excess of 100 million social media followers but by the same standard Manchester United will have 800 million + and easily fill a 76k stadium while city struggle with 55k. I'm sure in time it will improve but they still don't have the fan base of more historically successful clubs
The truth is city fans haven't bought into the champions league.
That's true, I was there last night but even I'm not that bothered about it, I genuinely don't see it as much different to the FA Cup
@@ironheade22 what? 🤣🤣🤣 You haven't bought into it because you can't win it . You lot think you entitled to win it but your not, every other fan base in the world knows how big the champions League is. Fa cup? You having a laugh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@LeonsCorner. I was honestly more bothered when we lost the FA Cup final to Wigan compared to when we lost the CL final to Chelsea. I also get more excited/anxious for league games against the top clubs than I was for the CL final. I'm sorry if you think it's mint but I really don't see what the fuss is about, it's barely even worth watching until April
@@ironheade22 so what your saying is Man City fans do not view their own club as being a proper club, your telling me basically that you don't rate the champions League, the most prestigious club cup competition in the world. you rate the domestic cups better because you have done well in them, you are the English champions and you absolutely love that title, but you have never been the champions of Europe as much as you try and this is the reason you have no love affair with it. Small club mentality.
@@ironheade22 barely even worth watching until April? Tell that to all the other club supporter's that show up throughout the group stages in their numbers. Joke of a fan base
Small club mentality on perfect show there: this City fan is going on about how they're well-supported because of that time they were in League One 30 years ago. I guess they all miss those good old days, then? I doubt Pep would consider that a benchmark of big club success
Support per decade biggest gates for City
1920s 80,000, 1930s 85,000, 1950s 76,000+, 1960s 66,000, 1970s 63,000+ no club bettered those figures in those decades and put into perspective lpool`s biggest gate is a one off 61,000 and the biggest league gate is 58,000.
Hugely passionate fans come from parents passing down their support to their kids and going to games week in week out. Unfortunately the singing and passion in City’s stadium has lacked for a long time and this is probably due to the lack of generational support rising at the same trend as the clubs success. Due to more recent success more children are supporting City, but the passion does not run as true. When young Man City fans have children of their own, that’s when City will fill stadiums and sing as loud as other clubs... it’s just a matter of time.
Possible, but we are talking about a period of 30 years till the next generation arrives. I don't think City will dominate the next 30 years. Reason being that the Oil states are gonna go back to their caves in the next 20 years.
Calling out to the 30 Man City fans around the world please come to the stadium 😂
Hilarious - you should be on stage. Not enough crying emojis to be truly funny though. You need at least 5 to be ranked as high as some of the comedians on here.
Keep hating
@@elonslawsuit5004 Ur mom said u were a mistake
@@Sunepwalling543 Simpleton yanks who struggle to find Manchester on a map should keep their opinions to themselves.
Calling Man City “City” is an insult to Leicester City, Bristol City, Coventry City etc etc.
Why? So stupid
@@lil_zadeh6064 rounding off your question by saying my idea is stupid is not a good way to get an answer. Try being more polite with people in future ✌️
@@robbiepeterh your comment is stupid and uncalled for i’m not saying you’re dumb cause you are probably a intelligent person
I feel bad for the hardcore Citizens whose club constantly get trolled and memed with Emptyhad jokes
As an LFC fan, Man Citeh should be thanked for the quality of football they have made standard in the EPL, I think they are simply having to catch up as a fan base having risen so far so quickly. The top teams mentioned have 50/60 years of long time major support, Man Citeh will get there, they don’t look like they are going anywhere for a long time.
all teams started off somewhere and needed a golden era to become something. LFC were one of many until the 70's / 80s, Manu had their period 90s / 00's. Chelsea we a 2nd div club 30 years but now look at them. Jealoousy because it's now City's turn, 20 years time, someone elses. This conversation is just tribalism at it's worst usully by playground fans arguing "my dads bigger than you dad"
Are u a city supporter
Liverpool have their fair share of tourist fans as well
They don't fill stadiums because after they score they start playing boring football by passing to each other like they are on a training ground. Who wants to watch that
17 goals the last 4 games 🤨
Last 4 home games - 5-0, 5-0, 5-0, 6-3 so yes dead boring - howd you go on against the cuckoo clock sellers, how did the park the bus tactic go? Exciting enough for you?
This is where Newcastle truly is a big club. We were still filling the stadium in the Championship, I know other fans will laugh at that statement, saying well if you're that big you wouldn't be there but still, could Man City and Chelsea turn a profit without the big owners??? They'd struggle
I went yesterday I can’t afford 50 quid for 2 tickets , £10 parking, 10-15 for fuel, maccies on the way for 2 people another 10 quid cause we leave soon as we finish work To get there on time through the traffic and road works, pint in the ground at 5 quid. And to go do it all again Saturday and Tuesday is a lot of money which people can’t and won’t do.
So that means quite clearly that you don't have the fan base to fill your ground week in week out. Just admit it
its the same at every big club City have a mid table team fanbase
@@LeonsCorner. Please tell me how your one brain cell just got that from what he said? How does fans not being able to afford going 3 days a week equal not having a fanbase? We hqve a local, loyal fanbase.
@@LoneWolf-bd5sn Can't fill your stadium = you don't have a big enough fan base to fill it. Simple maths fella.
@@LoneWolf-bd5sn your fans keep spouting that you have a local and loyal fan base, so what your saying is your fan base is not big enough and not loyal enough outside of your "local" supporters. Your not even the biggest club in Manchester never mind England it's embarrassing
Every club with a large following has had atleast 1 decent spell over the last 30 years. Give it a few years and there would be more city fans
We take more fans away in Europe than city have at home games we are Liverpool this means more
Without saying anything positive about City fans, most Liverpool fans are enormous gloryhunters. Liverpool have about as many actual fans as Everton, plus millions of hangers on with no connection to the city.
@@Support-your-local-team joke.
@@Support-your-local-team irs true lots of liverpool fans arent from the city
Did not know know city were managed by Oliver twist "can I have some more please?" Lmao pathetic.
Maybe they should use Salford's ground for champions league games - they might fill it then
Small club in terms of fan base period. Can’t even full a trophy parade