MG vs. Cruisers - Umpire Incident 10-5-13
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My son (13) volunteered his time last week to umpire a little league game. We’re a small town. Only two teams so we do the best we can with what we have. Long story short some of the parents were chirping about balls and strikes…admittedly he had a couple bad calls. As I’m coaching 3rd I hear some snide remarks and explained to them that if they didn’t like the next time they are more than welcome to come ump the next game. People always want to complain but never want to do the job
My daughter was playing little league softball. The other team had to forfiet due to a lack of players, and since it wasn't an official game, the umpire had to leave. A couple dads and I decided we'd be happy to take turns calling balls and strikes, so the girls could at least scrimmage. I was behind the plate, and make a couple calls, and hear, "Oh c'MON! What are you doing?" I turn around and point at the guy and say, "You're turn to be behind the plate." The other dads on the field backed me up, and the dude sheepishly came out (he had some pride to save, it seems). It was glorious. He couldn't call balls/strikes to save his ass.
Your son's experience is typical...unfortunately. Parents and fans are going to ruin their own sport when young people don't start calling games; building their skills and experience, It's the only way to learn the job, but if parents and fans give the kids a hard time, they'll say F- it. I don't need this grief.
........so what will they do without officials?
Yea the point is at the end of the day, your son went out of his way to do a favor for the league and the parents acted like total ingrates in response.
The parents are too scared to do that, plus how would they get drunk in the stands umping the game?
My 16 year old daughter just finished her first year of umpiring girls 10U softball and I would go to her games as her “bodyguard”. One coach was complaining about every call that didn’t go his way all game and it was getting worse as the game went on. I’m watching and biting my lip and wondering when I should step in while still allowing the coach to be a coach. By the last inning he took it too far and he started yelling at her so I stepped in and introduced myself as her father and reminded the guy that it was 10 U softball and not game 7 of the World Series and that he was most likely the only person who cares about the final score. He kept his mouth closed the rest of the game and his assistant coach tried to tell me he was yelling at the other teams coach and not my daughter
I love how he immediately called the game, he was like: "Nope, "y'all done, go home" 😂😂
sour grapes by the ump. he cried himself to sleep that night
@@remydaitch9815 The sour grapes were by the coach and the players who deliberately attempted to injure an umpire who made a call they didn't like.
@@puckerings I say get rid of paid umps and force the parents to do the work. Problem solved.
Yeah have parents of both teams determine the outcome of games. That will be go over way smoother… or people could just act like adults.
@@remydaitch9815 you're stupid, umps are non bias.
that was cold blooded the way the catcher walked away BEFORE the ball even made it over the plate.
Wanted to make sure the message was received loud and clear .
That’s the catcher I want on my team
Pretty effective way to show the ump that the pitcher can put the ball where it's supposed to go. Hopefully he got the message.
@@notdan995 You know very little about sports with that idiotic post. Hopefully you have never or will coach a team. GFY
@@z1llaz1lla58 You want a catcher who will attempt to injure an official? GTFO.
As an umpire instructor, I advise all my umpires to NEVER acknowledge the crowd.
Should I get ear plugs?
Completely agree. 25+ year umpire with international experience. Instructor and trainer for 15 years.
yeah .... cause that's this vid was all about .... crikey, the other team conspired to throw a ball at the umpires face and you talking about the umpire pointing downwards once when his back is turned to a mob of dickheads shouting at him .... wow
Do you advise umpires to call strikes when the ball goes over the plate at the proper level?
@@miker5667 idiots like you should be denied entrance to any game. You are the reason it is hard to find umpires. If you think you can do a better job, strap it on. If you don’t have the guts, shut the fuck up.
I’m a newer umpire but have been officiating ice hockey for many years. I tell the newer officials the same thing I live by:
1) always call a fair game no matter what and strive to call the best game you can
2) always admit and learn from your mistakes
3) always be a student of the sport, the day you stop learning how to be a better official is the day you need to stop being one
Ice hockey has to be one of the hardest sports to officiate, from someone who didn't start watching the NHL until I was 16, it's amazing how well the officiating is in the NHL.
Well said. I've been an umpire for 27 years and started at the bottom of youth baseball (now I do high school/JUCO only) and those are three great pieces of advice. The one thing I will add:
Set expectations! When you have your plate meeting with the coaches let them know what you expect. I always tell the coaches that we won't be arguing any balls/strikes or judgement calls. If they have a question about why a judgement call was made then come discuss it with me between innings. If it's a rules question, then by all means call a timeout and lets discuss it at that time. Otherwise, there will be no 'arguing' and that is their one and only warning. You say it in a very respectful way, let them know you are open to discussion but that you have set the parameters. By setting those expectations, coaches know what is acceptable when I'm umpiring a game. Finally, I let them know that they, as coaches, are responsible for their fan behavior. That usually limits any issues from fans (I don't pay any attention to fans during the game so it would have to be something pretty outlandish for me to notice anyway).
I always try to be invisible, but that's almost never completely possible. So, by setting those expectations up front you save yourself a lot of issues down the line.
@@BoomerKeith1 It is funny you bring that up. I have recently learned about and started addressing the “we aren’t arguing judgment calls” at the plate meeting. So far it has made a difference, I think….
Great advice though! Appreciate you sharing.
@@Monsiemage Ice hockey officiating is a blast once you get the foundational rules down. At that point you really just watch the game and penalties will just stick out to you. It’s fast paced but a lot of fun.
@@Haunter131313 It's amazing how much, having that brief conversation before the game, can help alleviate any issues. Sounds like you're off to a great start!
Props to how well the home plate ump took not only the bitchy comments from the crowd, but the beanbag to the noggin. He didn't angry or yell or gesticulate or even stare her down. He just walked away. Good on him.
Well...he deserved it.
Deserved it for what?
@@cool3929 you are so ignorant. grow up you twerp. you are playing a kids game, and you are wishing injuries upon another? ump could have filed assault charges on coach and pitcher/catcher. in some states assaulting a sports official is a felony...
@@cool3929 no he didnt deserve it and its wrong to teach kids that
Because he knew he deserved it
If I'm the rest of the team, I'm pissed off that my coach would ask my pitcher and catcher to do some crap like this. I want to play!
Dont play then. Go find another team. You've probably never played any sports. Imma always be down for my teammates. Let alone that was probably their Ace. Dont act like in professional sports other players dont stick up and support their best players. NFL does it with their QBs and even NBA does it with their franchise player. So the kids probably got on that mound and prob just said fuck this game. Sure no one should be targeted but you're an Umpire/Ref. The game is bigger than their petty emotions.
@@johnnykue379 Name a sport where assaulting a referee or umpire is something players do. They don't. It doesn't happen. Maybe they'll stick up for their teammates against other players, like if someone gets beaned or flagrantly fouled or something else egregious, but they don't do it to the refs. The refs are off limits and they should be at all levels. So you're right. "no one should be targeted but you're an umpire/ref." They should never, never, never be targeted.
@@johnnykue379 Ok, tough guy johnny...
@@johnnykue379 - Difference is, that team would probably be suspended.
for a coach to instruct his player to do that, what a spineless coward...
A lot of baseball and softball dads around this level are former players who never made it past this level themselves, so this is their way of getting back at the umps who "prevented them from reaching their full potential", i.e. they are bitches
For a player to comply…..is a spineless coward
@@chrissmith7686 they’re both spineless cowards.
Maybe the umpire shouldn't be an astronomical piece of shit in the first place and none of this happens 🤷
@@chrissmith7686 They're kids still, we forget how it's like to be a kid, how impressionable we are to adults. Are these travel teams? Does that coach have influence over their hopes of playing college ball in the future? Are they afraid of their coach? The kids did the wrong thing, but they had an adult giving them bad instructions; this is on the coach, full stop.
*huddles in a group in the field*
*hits umpire with next pitch*
at least wait a few pitches if you're going to do it...
yea
Ain't nobody got time for that. Bases are loaded.
At least have the catcher make it seem like it gotta away from her.
We going to lose because of him a little retaliation
Frank Last They “lost” in a forfeit. No umpire would allow a game to continue when his or her safety is compromised by a bush league action like that. And if that league wants umpires, then they would be required to take action against that coach, since he clearly instructed the pitcher and catcher to do that. It’s no different than if the coach had punched an umpire. The face mask saves umpires from cranial fractures, but you feel it when you get hit like that, and usually that happens due to a foul ball that happens too quickly for the catcher to react.
It’s because of actions like this that leagues are having trouble finding officials to work their games. This wouldn’t be tolerated by NCAA or professional leagues. You think it should happen here?
Just my two cents' worth from a guy who umpired softball (and a bit of baseball) for 30 years. Never once did I step onto a diamond and say, "I'm going to deliberately make a bad call and screw over a team." I don't know any officials in any sport who have that mindset. Most umpires are out there because they enjoy the game and want to give back something to the sport. Sure, they get paid a bit of pocket money too, but umpiring baseball and softball is among the most thankless tasks in sports. You have to stand there and accept insults for the entire game from people who are generally biased by their fandom and are often ignorant of the rules. When I first started umpiring high-level competitive games, our umpires' organization had about 50 people on its roster. By the time I packed it in in 2009, we only had eight left because of attrition. We weren't getting any new umpires to replace those who quit who lasted more than a season or two. The abuse they received wasn't worth the compensation. I'd wager that the coach who ordered that last pitch and the pitcher and catcher who complied have never officiated sports--and likely never will. To read how many people who are defending this dangerous action as somehow being justified is both sad and frightening.
Thank you for this comment. I just started officiating because they were going to cancel softball/baseball this season for the kids and I decided to step into the role. I have a lot to take on the chin.
well said. As an umpire for 20 years this kinda of behavior is unacceptable.
As a fan, I agree. Sportsmanship is learning not every call goes your way. But ya find a way. These parents now spend THOUSANDS on travel sports and all think it should buy them all the good calls. This was a sad display.
It is justifiable when umpires abuse authority on all level in any sports. I watch refers in football fixed a game. Don't act like 100% of you umpires are pure and innocent. Your all are adults and know what your doing. To the worst of the bottom 10%-20% deserve to know they're not welcome in a game where they hold alot of power. Yes I bite some refute deserve the brutal treatment they get like this one in the video. It was all obvious he was screwing over the other pitching team. Angel Hernendez is a prime example of horrible officiating. Now if someone ever did that to someone like Ed Hocules that would be something I can say," That's not right."
Both pitcher and catchee deserved to be tossed and suspended.
Probably the manager as well
I came from a baseball family and grew up playing baseball my whole life, this is one of the most disrespectful things I’ve seen on the field. Not only to the umpire but to the game itself as well.
F**k that umpire.
Ump deserved it.
You see what the Empire was doing He get when he deserves
A catcher on my team did this once (though it was significantly less obvious) and I remember feeling completely embarrassed. The umpire stood in front of the plate and quietly-but-clearly (and rightfully) ripped into my catcher. I hate seeing stuff like this.
My dad coached my team (at times) up to high school. If our catcher had ever done that, the catcher would've been off the team after that pitch. If he thought the pitcher had anything to do with it, he'd have been gone too. Would he have kicked me off the team if I did it? I think so and I certainly hope so.
Hahaha, weak.
Grow a set
@@Michael-cf9cj seems completely obvious that the coach told her to do that.
@@briangereau788 I don't think there's any doubt about that.
I can't believe the coach would even suggest that, and I'm even more amazed the players agreed to go through with it!
no proof he did. Girls can be very vindictive. they were on that mound an awful long time after the coach left it they could have cooked it up all by themselves.
I’m all for the coach!!! The ump will remember this the next time he decides to throw a game
@@k.e.c.8893 Yeah hit someone in the face with a ball because you don't like his strike zone. Makes sense.
Jerk in a car I’ll hit someone in the face with a bat for calling a bush league game.
Catcher probably frames pitches.
I played college baseball...I've WANTED to do something like this plenty of times. But you don't. Even if you want to, and the frustration is boiling over...you just don't. You respect the game. You respect your opponent. You respect the fans. This is utterly disgusting - the coach should be banned.
Great point. They disrespected the game, not the umpire.
Right on
An adult organized this
Coach should be banned for life. Pitcher and catcher suspended for the rest of the season. You can't have coaches and players declaring "open season" on umpires.
I like how the second base ump just starts pointing and tossing people
great call by blue to end the game! adults acting like children as per usual.
In the UK, with kids sports, soccer, cricket, etc, there's a code of conduct that the parents who attend the matches have to sign up to; not to abuse the referees and umpires, not to use foul language, or belittle the players, or shout at or remonstrate with the staff. They must be supportive of the players and everyone taking part. If you break those rules, the organising authority (Local football association or local sports league) will ban you as a parent from attending anymore games. It's about time you got this into US Kids sports.
@@eddief32 if every American had the opportunity to visit the U.K. the U.S. would be a much classier place! My experience at least.
Nah, there's great reasons why the United States of America whipped GB to gain independence.
That manager should have been banned from coaching a least for a while. Teaches great sportsmanship.
For life.
Yes and the game should have immediately been forfeited, the opposing team should have been declared the winner regardless of what the score was at the time
That was such an accurate throw to the Ump. Wow.
I think the point of the throw was a sort of "I'll show you how accurate I am and that your calls are bullshit." The way the people in the crowd were talking there is something we don't know that happened before.
bigpun8601 Yeah, because a crowd at a baseball game is the best barometer as to what happened. /s
There was no reason for those scumbags to drill the umpire like that, but dickheads like you are going to make excuses for them no matter what.
Burt Reynolds clearly there was a reason because they hit him.
do you think they are really just going to hit him for no fucking reason?
thatguywhohasthename Just because they're upset with the umpire does not give them the right to peg the ump......
Burt Reynolds Well I mean the motive was obvious: revenge against the ump for making at least one bad call. But that's horrible sportsmanship. The pitcher and catcher (and whoever else liked the idea) were pieces of shit for doing it and they deserve to be benched for a couple of games.
Imagine being an Angry Dad Coach and coming up with an evil plan to have your child's baseball team to Carry out! What a weirdo
He's closeted.
Amazing how many commentators here are saying it was a bad call on ball four- when we can't even see where the plate is from the camera view (which is slightly to the right the the plate, further obscuring it). I umpired slo-pitch and fast pitch for years. This umpire handled it absolutely correctly- game is done. Frankly, the pitcher and catcher should be banned for life. I know they are only kids- no excuse. They could have gotten someone seriously hurt, and should be ashamed of themselves. The coach? He should have been facing criminal charges. While I've been behind the plate, I've taken one of those pitches to the head (absolutely not intentional) and they are nothing to mess around with.
The pitch was a perfect strike right down the middle of the strike zone. I don't care about the rest of it but that is a fact.
Being an umpire is a lot harder than it looks. I just started with machine pitch and the amount of abuse you take from the coaches and the parents is insane for a kids game.
I just became one. I haven't umped a game yet. My wife thought I needed to go through it to learn to not be confrontational. LOL
I’ve refereed youth soccer, football and basketball. After watching a good friend umpire a kids baseball game and seeing the abuse he endured, I knew I’d never consider doing it.
i mean its really not a kids game
it depends on what league
It's sad, its baseball
@ 2:00 "That was obvious"
Exactly. There should be no argument here from anyone. Ump made the right call, and the coach from the other team should be fined for that. Those are kids playing ball for fun. Great lesson that coach is teaching them... What a clown!
yep --- but not fined ... banned for a very very long time (if not life) ....
fined? lol, the "coach" should be banned. poor kids, to have a mentor mislead them that way. what a coward
Do you also believe the pitcher & catcher should be fined & suspension? They could have said no but went along with it.
Coach gets dumb up
Those kids not playing for fun, and don't like participation trophies. You don't get rewarded just for showing up. You play to win and get rewarded for winning.
My main question would be, “ what could you possibly gain by assaulting the umpire?”.
Education for that umpire, call your games right. If your favoritism is too obvious, your accident might be obvious too.
@@mr.j7792 Education? So, getting thrown out, forfeiting the game, and then being banned from future events is to teach the umpire a lesson? Clever.😂
@@thelowmax that’s why as a catcher we just let it happen when it’s clear bias and make it look accidental. I will tip a ball right into your groin with that glove “on accident “
Teach him a lesson to not intentionally make bad calls
@@mr.j7792 Some punk coach is gonna try it and perhaps the umpire will later retaliate with a gun. People that fuck around, find out.
I saw this happen to a younger umpire one time(it wasn’t even a obvious as this one) he took the pitch right to the head fell down. Got up calmly walked over to the coach and said you’re done. (It happened right after a mound visit) he then walked over and told Both the pitcher and catcher they were done. He waited 15 mins quietly with and ice bag on his jaw from where the ball hit him and play resumed. Coach was expelled from the league and the pitcher and catcher got 3 games suspended and had each write a letter of apology to the ump. Now I’ve been umpiring for over 20 years, and this younger umpire was maybe 21 or 22 at the time I wouldn’t have handled as well as he did.
Sometimes a statement has to be made to the umpire when he is calling a poor game. I have been a catcher for over 30 years (Little League, High School, College, and now Town Team) and I have let a couple of dozen balls or so go by over the years to let the ump get tagged. I have never been thrown out either. I also wouldn't allow a high pitch toward the umpire's head to go by, that is just plain dangerous and when I do let a pitch go by neither my coach nor my pitcher know I am going to do it. I set up outside and when the pitch goes inside I am "slow" to stab at it. I have had a few umps make remarks over the years but I just shrug my shoulders and tell them they know what the deal is. Maybe my being 6'7" 265 lbs makes a difference and maybe not.
@@thomasjoseph5876 if you purposely let an umpire get hit bc you don’t like how he’s calling a game you shouldn’t be playing sports. I don’t care if you didn’t let a high speed pitch go by or towards his head. That dangerous and I hope you don’t coach kids to do that either. You should be ashamed of yourself. I’ve caught my entire baseball career. I wasnt great but I never let a pitch go by on purpose to “send a statement” and if I ever did a game like that you would have been throw out. And I hope next time you do it (which I hope you don’t ever do again) you do get throw out.
@@lscales6131 If the ump is calling a bad or dirty game, perhaps it is HE who shouldn't be involved in sports. Most of the time when an ump does that it is because of a personal vendetta against a team or a coach. There is no room in sports for that kind of action. It's amazing how after getting tagged once or twice how the game suddenly gets called more fairly. Strike zones become the same size, close calls are called fairly, etc.
Yes, bad calls are part of the game, but when they are repeatedly and blatantly called against one team then the individual calling the game as an ump has no business in that position of authority. When a coach respectfully asks the ump for a clarification about a rule or a call and is suddenly ejected, that should not be happening.
@@thomasjoseph5876 you still shouldn’t purposely allow a hit to the umpire. Regardless how bad they are there are other ways to not get them to umpire. I’ve been umpiring for 20 years there is a procedure to get rid of bad umpires or get them more training.
@@lscales6131 Too much effort and takes too long. I prefer immediate results lol.
what this video missed is that the catcher was ejected and the game was called, the team in blue were awarded the win.
The video captures it at the end.
I think the pitcher and coach were tossed too.
Well, if the umpire is handing the game to them and not making good calls, what difference does it make ?
What’s the point of ejecting the catcher if you are calling the game anyway?
@@Brett33 who said anything about not calling a good game?
This is so sad that I have no idea whether I should "like" or "dislike" this video. Kudos to the base umpire for excellent situation handling, and ending the game on behalf of the injured plate umpire.
injured by a softball wearing a metal mask? OK, Karen
@@devinthomas4866 A softball can be thrown quickly.enough to cause injury, particularly if thrown directly at someone's head. That a pitcher would intentionally throw at an umpire over a call she disagreed with (presumably on orders from her coach) is disgraceful. THAT is what most of the people watching this video are taking issue with.
@@devinthomas4866 Yes, it very well can hurt you. A ball hitting you straight in the face mask feels like a punch. You can snap your neck back pretty good, leaving you with a bit of whiplash. You can get a concussion. Contrary to your belief, softballs are not cottony pillows. They are still pretty damned hard. And a good softball pitcher can gun it up there pretty quickly.
@@devinthomas4866 Even with a mask on things can go differently and a soft ball could cause a stroke, heart attack, concussion, or even death. The coach, pitcher, and catcher can be charged with assault with deadly weapon, or even attempted murder.
@@christoffesedao3579 Then we should ban softball, sounds too scary
It’s one thing for the coach to do this, but the fact he got the pitcher and catcher to do it as well is mind blowing
It’s not “mind blowing.” 🙄
The pitcher and catcher were the victims of that ump’s bad calls. What’s so “mind blowing” about it according to you? 🫵🏻🤡🥴
The coach is a horrible role model
Actually a serious matter. Any team willing to do that is more than willing to hurt someone to prove a point. Remainder of schedule should be forfeited. Coach should not be allowed to coach for a few years. As well, the players, especially the catcher, should be forced to apologize and explain their actions to the umpire. I was on a team that did this to an umpire in junior college ball. It was a classless act.
should the ump have to apologize for being bad as well? lets keep standards balanced across the board.
@@ryan-5494 it looked low inside... you can not tell.
@@ryan-5494ah yes. What logic. He made a bad call, of course, the next action should be hit him with a pitch that could harm him. That makes total sense.
@jamesoshl9096 it was down the middle
Why should that whole team pay the price, just ban the coach and catcher and move on.
Another point that in my opinion highlights the professionalism of the umpire behind the plate is the fact that after getting hit, he took off his mask and walked away.
Clearly, after being heckled all game, the ump was furious that this team really went so low as to intentionally hit him with a pitch. Rather than make a scene he walked it off.
Good on the ump. Good officiating crew here. Perhaps not every call in the game was the correct call, but ladies and gentlemen that is the nature of the fucking game. Human error. If you don't like it stay away from sports. This team should enjoy a suspension from whatever league they play in and the coach should be banned from coaching in that league.
kinda looked like he was walking over to the coach though
Being a person that grew up with baseball, i have had my fair share of absolutely horrible calls. But I handle it with maturity and just walk it off. In the pro's you see umps make absolutely crappy calls, but how often do you see Cliff Lee talk to the catcher and say "When i pitch, move"
This little kid clearly hit the ump intentionally. And deserved for the game to end. Shit like this is just embarassing. Either argue with the ump yourself and nut up, or shut the fuck up and take the bad call. NEVER attack the people that control the games lol
mack720p You may be right man.
mack720p Yes, he walked over to the coach, and ended the game. You can’t tolerate this behavior from a youth league coach. That game ended in a forfeit.
Rj Bertram He did very calmly walk away from the plate. He went over to the coach and told him that he cost his team the game. The “dropped glove” was deliberate, and the game ended in a forfeit. At the very end, you can see the batting team walk off the field, and the base umpire moving toward the mound.
Umpires at this level are not going to allow themselves to be deliberately hurt. And this league will have to get tough with this kind of behavior, if they want umpires for their games.
Don't you just think it's hysterical that all the people near the camera berating the Umpire suddenly shut up when he walks off. They don't cheer for what the girls did or laugh at him for getting hit.
They know what the girls did was a extremely dirty tactic.
WhenTheSkyTurnsDark And the umpire (and anyone else there) knows that the coach directed his players to do it. In softball, the mound is much closer to the plate, and he might have overheard them, though the crowd was making a lot of noise. That was the last pitch in that game.
I was just thinking how quiet they got when that happened
Agreed
The other ump made a good call on the intentional hit in the face
I'm a paid umpire and let me tell you 99% of the times people argue they are WRONG. We spend countless hours reviewing the rules, going to clinics, and doing everything we can to be as prepared as possible. If you think you know the rules better you don't. If you think you can do a better job shut up, start umpiring, and prove it. Chances are you can't.
That pitch was down the middle at her belly button I’m pretty sure I’ll do way better job if u paid attention to the video the umpire had something against the team that fans even said “ok umpire you proved your point there’s bases loaded and the man still keeps walkin people ur a joke if u think that pitch wasn’t well deserved
@@giovannidevora8795 you are making an assumption based on a single pitch. From the video angle you can’t remotely tell height on the pitch which shows you are the biased person against sports officials. Way to expose yourself.
From this video you can't see what the umpire sees. If he says it was low, must have been low. As for the rest of the video. Clearly the coach takes quite a bit of time on the mound, which the umpire allows. Clearly it was to instruct the pitcher to go high and the catcher to move out of the way of the ball. Regardless of whether you feel the umpire was making good or bad calls. This was intentional and planned. Ejection for the pitcher, catcher, and coach is reasonable. There should be a league review with additional penalties. The umpire here is well within his rights as the game official to end the game and declare a forfeit as well.
+CV1989Colt Such great wizdom, im so glad people like you take the time to inform us all about this video and enlighten us about the moral stance that is socially acceptable in today's societal laws.
+Noiwillnot givemyrealname
What in the fuck dude?
+Noiwillnot givemyrealname you fucking asshat......i can only imagine that you're that fat ass know it all parent who lives through his kids.
+Noiwillnot givemyrealname what do you take issue with here? Truth is, the coach should be charged with assault.
uh thats not at all how things work wtf lol..
From the crowd's reactions it sounds like the umpire was making bad calls, but even they knew the pitch intentionally aimed at the umpire. As an older gentleman who has umpired a hand full of games, you do it because you love the sport and enjoy watching others have fun. You get paid very little if at all, and you can easily get injured. I don't care what kind of calls he made before, but this last one was correct in ending the game.
Yes because crowds are always in the right?
The pitch they did show was low on the inside. He called it correctly.
@@matthewstump7563 - The view is a bit obscured, but the line of the ball looks to be over the plate if you look between the ump and the catcher. The catcher is to the right of the plate, and not centered. I think he called it incorrectly
Think this is bad, try reffing soccer.
Fans have no bias based on your comment...
One of the dad's straight up says "that was obvious" ... wow sad all around for the players but especially for the Coach, he should set the example and overcome the obstacle/set back which was the run. but you do it as a team.
The umpire was deliberately calling balls even if they were in the strike zone, that’s why you hear a someone say “you’ve made your point” ump was screwing over a team. I don’t condone what they did to the ump but that dude was cheating that team.
That pitch certainly appeared to be a perfect strike...catcher didn't even have to try to frame it
@@rudysseus4410 so that make it justifiable?
@@rudysseus4410 The pitch seemed low, but there is no way from this camera angle to make a perfect assessment. As for accusing the ump for deliberately doing this how do you actually know? Just because a loud fan says “you Mede your point” does not determine what actually was happening.
That was a bitch move by those girls. In my 13 years of playing softball, I've come across MANY horrible umpires, but you do NOT conspire to assault ANY of them. They should be charged.
FU!
I've been a competitive hockey and soccer player for a long time. I've coached, captained teams, and reffed, so I understand many of the points of view.
This is absolutely disgusting. I understand the emotions of not getting a call, but this goes well beyond the bounds of player-ref interaction. Both the pitcher and catcher should be banned from the league.
i know you made this comment half a decade ago but the coach should also get banned too lol
The coach should be banned for life . Pitcher and catcher just did what the coach told them to do .
I agree with Richard Afflitto. That ump may have been making bad calls all the way up to that point. I think that was awesome and I’ve played ball since I was old enough to do so
No, by the banter of the crowd, he got his. Targeting one team is asking for trouble. Yes I've played competitive hockey since I was young. I will damn sure stand up for my team over shit officials.
@@Jakefromstakefarm Because the crowd wouldn't be biased towards their own team
That’s way beyond bad sportsmanship. That’s felony criminal assault with a deadly weapon.
So not gonna lie, this would be a temptation for sure. When I played, I was a catcher and it became my primary spot in HS. I’ve had plenty of bad umps who are not consistent; yes I have been tempted to do this. Definitely glad I didn’t, that can cause concussions.
But the fact that a coach made this call is absolutely embarrassing and says a lot about the kind of coach he is and the kind of players he is producing.
Horrid idea y agree but i get the feeling this ump was purposely not calling strikes.
@@brandonmartin4071 and you got that from a 3 minute video listening to the parents , ok ,
@@trumpisamoron1212 No, the pitch down the middle that was called a ball with the bases loaded. but good name by the way.
There are always 2 sides. This Ump may not have been calling the game fair and on the take. In that case, it's justice served
@@benbazy9238 not how that works. At the end of the day it’s a game and you don’t get to injure people because it’s not going your way. People with a mindset like yours shouldn’t be playing sports.
So childish of that team. They obviously discussed that in the huddle, and a high school girl or an old man can know that that's not right
Ump deserved it
Perfect example of toxic femininity.
That catcher should be benched for the whole year.( If this is a high school game) And that coach needs to be fired pronto.
@@dmzabo3914 wrong. The ump deserved it. What a bad call. If you can’t ump then get out or get hit.
@@RisitasKEKW You are so wrong! You probably approve of irate fans following the umpire to his car & beating the sh*t out of him.
Sports are supposed to teach you life lessons about dealing with situations in the right way, and working as a team to accomplish goals. What is this coach teaching these girls? This is shameful.
He's teaching them that When watchers don't play fair, its ok to take them out. Good for them.
ch3dder He's teaching them that it's okay to let your emotions take over your reason. He's teaching them that it's okay to act as a group in a violent manner.
Unless you're some spiritual monk that's never gotten angry or jealous and wanted revenge shut up, you're no angel so quit acting like one, love when idiots like you preach when they're far from perfect, its a baseball game. No one cares.
Jaret Anderson This is exactly the attitude that people hate about Umps. People need to be 'thankful to you to allow them to play'? Get over yourself. If you get paid to Ump then do your damn job, nobody needs to be thankful to you. If you volunteer to Ump, then do your damn job - thanks.
Jaret Anderson I'm also an umpire, been doing it for 7 years now. That is not quite the way to look at it, I think. Now yes, I do get plenty of parents and coaches who are friendly before, during, and after the game and will come up to me and say "Hey, thanks for your time doing this" and it feels nice, but I don't expect them to. I'm happy to be doing the job, because I love it. We may be the most important person out there due to how most of the game hinges on our every word, but people aren't there to see us, they're coming for the players on the field. Usually when I've got rowdy fans or coaches I just ignore them or shoot them a dirty look to get the point across I ain't having it. Never do you make it about you when on the field, it's about the kids playing the game.
Well, the coach got what he wanted. Instead of digging in and trying strategy to make a come back he quit and gave up like a child. Good job coach, I'd never want to be on your team if things got "tough". You quit, sounds like a great way to rally a team.
I would hope all the parents in the stands would want their kids off the team. He's obviously a terrible role model.
Can you imagine having a job where every single decision you make is instantly disputed and disliked by 50% of the players and 50% of the fans?
Unless you're Angel Hernandez, in which case your calls are disliked by everybody but himself.
So, like being the President? Worst job in the world... ugh, you couldn't pay be enough...
"I am too old for this shit"
hahahaha
Baseball dads are the worst. We had to leave a league when I was a kid because there were 2 fights
But softball dads are cool
We had 2 mother's Duke it out right in the parking lot and next to them the boys fighting also
Umm, that was women's softball. Where did dads come into play? Bad experience or just a man hater?
@@zjrkeith "where do dads come into play"? Pull your head out.
Obviously you haven’t met hockey parents.
This is appalling, what if he was seriously hurt or killed? Those girls would've never lived it down. That coach shouldn't be allowed near kids.
Maybe he would learn to make the right call
@@aw98000 ^ This person is the problem.
@@aw98000So, did you peak in grade school or high school?
he shouldn't be allowed to ump period. everyone in this game players, coaches, ump all terrible for the sport. let them have tantrums
I like how there is always a guy saying "what?" "what?"
As a former college softball player, catcher, and umpire...this just disgusts me! I don't care if every single pitch was down the middle, the call is what the umpire calls. You work around his zone. While he is wearing a protective facemask, that doesn't make it hurt any worse and a pitch at that speed can actually kill a person if it hits right! A softball pitched at 65 mph has the speed of a 90 mph baseball at the distance it is...just disrepectful and dangerous! I would have pulled the coach's license and the eligibility of the pitcher and catcher!
I agree and if people watched the whole game version you will see that the umpires zone was consistent. Bad Coaching, Bad example for our children!
Sam Hofer I agree with you all the way, but the pitch speed isn't actually like a 90 mph fastball, the reaction speed is just like a reaction of a 90 mph fastball. It would still feel the same as a 65 mph, but it could still hurt or kill someone
That has to do with reaction time... that doesn't mean its magically hits as hard as a 95mph baseball...
That coach is an absolute disgrace and if I was the Director for that tournament, he's never coaching in one of my events ever again. If this was a HS game, he should be fired.
Absolutely.
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As a parent, I would have pulled my girls from the team for the season. All this taught the girls was violence.
I cannot believe the number of people on this board who are either defending what this team did, or at the very least, justifying it by assuming that the umpire had it coming to him.
I'm guess that these are the leather-lunged Kens and Karens that make watching youth baseball/softball games so excruciating for those parents who come just to watch their kids play.
No. The people defending the team do know the game and do realize the ump had an agenda to screw this team. The ump most definitely deserved this. Not only does the ump need to open his eyes....you need to open your eyes. There is no way the ump missed that call....he did it on purpose. There are penalties to pay for screwing with the game.
@@RapIsDeadly your an idiot!!!! People like you are what’s wrong with sports today. In no way is the ok. I’m an umpire and I’m on the board for a local little league. If this happened to me, there would be suspensions and possibly removing the coach from his position. Unbelievable you are trying to justify that.
They're the same people that deny ballot box stuffing.
@@RapIsDeadly What trash stands up for trash my guy......the pitcher lost her full ride to Utah because of this. That's hilarious! Seems pretty fucking petty to teach a blue working/volunteering a TRAVEL TEAM series some mundane lesson....all because they "know" the game. GTFO with that.
@@RapIsDeadly You’re sick in the head and should never be allowed to be near young men or women
I've been an umpire for more than 10 years and I umpire youth and HS baseball. I spend several weeks each season in Cooperstown NY as an umpire.
I have a HUGE problem with the comment made by scotthebruce2. Sir, if you think that the coach should have ordered his pitcher to throw at the umpire, and have the catcher move out of the way so that the pitch hits the umpire, then you should be in the role of the umpire. That's NEVER how it gets done. If the coach has a problem with the ump's zone then there are several other ways to handle it where someone won't get hurt: having the ump go to the mound and break up a meeting so the coach gets tossed is one. You NEVER order your players to intentionally throw at another player or umpire.
It was difficult to tell from the camera angle if the pitch was low, it may have been. We don't know what happened earlier in the game and if the zone was getting smaller, or if the pitcher was missing the zone altogether and wasn't getting "close" pitches.
For those that disagree, put on the mask and pads and go out there and ump some games yourself...then you'll see just how difficult it is to call a good game and deal with crazy coaches and parents who are out of their minds.
As far as the players were concerned, this league looks like it's 12-14 year old girls' softball, and they're just doing what the coach told them to do. Hopefully, they found out that it's not something that you do under any circumstance, maybe they got a game suspension (or more) out of it.
YOU DON'T THROW AT SOMEONE ON PURPOSE TO HIT THEM.
You understand that half the people on RUclips don't even believe what they're posting, they're just trying to get a reaction.
they got one from me!
Never is a sport so serious that a bad call or judgement warrants physicality as a response. And never is a coach so unqualified as one who promotes poor sportsmanship.
This game was obviously taped. File an appeal with the league if the umpire is as terrible as has been implied below. Use the tape as evidence. Otherwise, play the game well and accept the outcome. Don't ever respond with such poor sportsmanship as this.
Calling the game at that point was the only proper response next to ejecting the catcher and pitcher.
A bad call, no. poorly calling a game against your team, why not? Yes filing an appeal is the correct course of action but the reality is the game will be over by that point and at best the umpire will be suspended. Most likely nothing would happen to the umpire and it's not like they will get to play the game over again.
Call it bad sportsmanship if you want, others would call it standing up for your self. When so many calls are against your team, the umpire has negated the purpose of playing. He might as well say the other team wins so we can all go home.
Brandon Francey
Suspended? And you wonder why officiating at the pro level is so bad. School sports is where you cut your teeth,but the parents have such piss poor behavior Good officials up and quit.
Brandon Francey Yes it is bad sportsmanship. It is also criminal.
The "stand up" way to "stand up for yourself" is to follow all the appeal processes in the rule book. To physically assault someone is criminal, and anyone who doesn't "get" that needs to understand that before THEY end up in jail.
Of course it does how many times can you put up with an empire that makes bad calls time after time after time before you retaliate? Never! Always!
I don't know how many missed calls this umpire has had, but Mlb teams should be doing this. I means there's absolutely ZERO accountability for missed calls by umpires in Mlb.
"Okay girls. We've just walked in a run. What's our strategy?"
"I know! What if we deliberately hit the umpire in the head the very next pitch?"
"Brilliant!"
This team is not just immoral, it's incomprehensibly stupid.
Thanks. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time!
This is today's society! Get pulled over by a cop... instantly start fighting with him about a $70 ticket. Don't like a SCOTUS decision...send in a democrRAT hit man. It's all reactions and acting like spoiled little children. Scream it's not fair. I'm (fill in the blank here)
I was an umpire for a few summers, and I have no respect for any players who attempt to hurt officiators in any sport.
I was a baseball player for a few summers, and I have no respect for any officiators who attempt to hurt the game in any sport.
You wouldnt have the game if it wasnt for them.
Neither would you
surreal15m Baseball players have a game where they look and hire officiators, officiators don't go and look for players to hire and play a game.
WAS....an UMPIRE.... "FOREVER" a tool...!!!
Thats absolutely pathetic. You can clearly see the catcher move out of the way and not even try to catch it. What the hell is wrong with kids sometimes? Where's the sportsmanship in that?
looked to me like the coach told them to do it, he called timeout and had a meeting on the mound. but ya i agree, that was BS
Serves the ump right. What an ass
@@jessicamessenger9804 You must be related to the pitcher. What they did was abhorrent. It's a game.
@@jessicamessenger9804 it was a ball. The shitty catcher did an even shittier job framing the pitch.
Totally inexcusable. I'm an umpire myself and at any level we all have made bad calls or calls that one side doesn't agree with. That's all part of being an umpire, but to intentionally cause injury that's totally unacceptable. The coach, catcher, and pitcher not only deserved to be ejected and have the game forfeited, but they all should've been arrested for assault.
Just to pile on here...those "fans" in the stands are the ones that encouraged the coach to tell the players to do that, whether they realize it or not. By complaining constantly, they fed the frustration and added to it.
Absolutely disgraceful and the coach should be banned from ever coaching anything, ever
It was kinda funny
@@benbazy9238 It was kinda sh!tty and uncalled for. Those players were encouraged to act like that because the coach and the fans were not able to cheer for their team
@@bd5289 Yeah ummm you make no sense
@@benbazy9238 What a life you have, living as a troll. I'm so sad for you and your pathetic existence
I used to be a pitcher and my dad was a coach. Even if he told me to I would never throw a pitch purposely at an ump. I've umpired games before and it's a tough position. These girls and coach are pathetic.
Nothing wrong with sending a message to a shitty umpire.
+Brandon Hollingsworth WRONG!!!! If a player does that they should be suspended indefinitely (IF NOT banned for life). You NEVER disrespect a person of authority like that!!
+Brandon Hollingsworth TROLL☝
+lovesvideos247 respect is earned. The umpire was clearly being malicious and making bad calls to impact the game.
+Brandon Hollingsworth sounds like you don't know much about the game. If respect is earned, then these girls didn't earn it. Each umpire is different, for example, the umpire in the video probably had a smaller strike zone, seeing as the players are getting walked. Instead of talking to the umpire to figure out what kind of pitch he's looking for and adjusting, or putting in another pitcher, they threw it at him and probably got the catcher and coach kicked out of the game. It's very disrespecting and embarrassing of this team.
I've been an umpire for kids and teens baseball leagues and let me tell you:
Yelling doesn't work. Good umps call em like they see em. They're not for or against either team. They keep their eye on the ball, and make the best calls they can. A good ump doesn't let the crowds jeers affect him/her.
Exactly. People think we give a damn. Never care who wins. Not my job
@@bryanpinta6557I call bullshit you umpires are getting worse and worse need to be held accountable for the shitty calls
this wasnt a good ump.
you can see it on the video, he made a bad call. you can hear it that he had apparently BEEN doing that the whole time, screwing one team.
this is a bad ump, and im surprised more didnt happen.
If the umpire would call balls and strikes correctly this issue wouldn't happen. Simple as that.
If they care that badly to make issues like this, then maybe they should do the job.
An umpire buddy had this happen to him and he calmly brushed the plate off and from then on his strike zone was smaller than the ball for that team. Good lesson.
Yeah, why call the game early? There just isn't a strike zone.
Thats what i plan on doing to my zone, should this happen to me. No place in the game for this, balls/strikes are all individual judgement calls..no 2 umpires have the same strike zone or you might as well have robots out there.
@@erikcarlson1318 Or get rid of ya'll and force the parent to ref their own games.
@@remydaitch9815that's a terrible idea. have the people so invested in the game they wanna fight an ump, officiate the game. That sounds like it would go way smooth.
Respect to the ump for containing himself like that and just walking off. That could've gotten a lot worse very quickly.
The blue shouldn't complain at all he should know he f up bad on that pitch that some times can cost a game, n its not just a game its baseball or softball m people go there to win if not stay home. Same goes when they dont know the rules, its a job i dont think they go and call games for free so they should read the book a lil everyday
@@carlosnoguez2405 what the fuck is wrong w you bud lol. if you think this is justified at all you’re just as much of a piece of shit as the coach is. this is wrong for the ump, this is wrong for all the kids watching, this is wrong for several reason. you and the coach should find a nice anger management class so you can plan your next bullshit softball cheap shot.
@UC8msDfuc7LijHZEyasEwC6A yeah its a game, but its his job to call right those pitches, there are so many rule that r not in the book. Like when ur team is loosing by a lot of runs in the last inning and the other team stole a base, u need to teach them that they can swing and win as much as they can but they need to respect the other team too. So its the pitchers job to put it in the next batter's ribs as hard as he can
I don't know how I would've reacted in his place.
@@carlosnoguez2405 are you serious dude ?? ... FFS - you shouldn't be anywhere near sports at any level with thoughts and an attitude like that .... crikey ....
The way the ump stood up was smooth as fuck like "yall done goofed now,
I usually can't stand umpires, but I actually respect this ump for being so calm. That was dirty what that coach did. The players involved should be suspended for the season too.
That's deliberate assault kid.
Nah fuck that if your an ump don’t get emotional and make bad calls to intentionally throw a game, that shit was a blatant strike and it wasn’t the first time he made a call like that
@@pgood7266 so you tell a teen to intentionally hit the ump, I'd tell my daughter to throw over at you at 3rd and hit you in the face
@@pgood7266 Nah, even if the ump made bad calls that is dirty! Hitting the ump belongs nowhere in any game
@@michaeljordan317 if the ump is a douchebag he deserves it
My daughter has played softball since she was 6, she's 14 now we have taught her to respect the umpires ,her coaches and the opposing team,if she was to be apart of something like that it would be the last time she played ball!
I know the guy in person. Great great man, he did not deserve this at all. And the stands didn't help at all.
Yes yes he did
@@Sir-Hash-A-Lot You deserve to take a pitch off the head without protection. Go on.
@@Sir-Hash-A-Lot Shame on you. If a coach is that upset about the calls, he needs to go out there make his point and get tossed without dragging his players into it.
The catcher looked like she "yanked" or "pulled" the pitch up...which makes it look like a strike in the video, but honestly it didn't look that low. But maybe the umpire had been warning her all game to stop yanking the pitches...you keep doing that to me after I tell you to knock it off, I'm calling it a ball.
See, when you yank a pitch you tell everyone in the ballpark "Well, that pitch was a ball, but let me see if I can fool the umpire." Hey, if you think it's a ball, I'm going to agree with you ! "Ball!"
First, I wouldn't have left them out there yapping on the mound that long. When there's a conference, I dust off the plate slowly, peek back, if they are still there I start the slow walk to the mound. That sends the message, and usually they break it up.
Clearly the coach told the pitcher to throw at the umpire, and told the catcher to bail out. There's no other interpretation for what happened next.
But look at how long the kids were at the mound after the coach left. I'll bet they were talking about whether to do it or not -- but you know pyscho coaches go for those mind games - the kids were probably afraid to disobey.
Plate umpire should have immediately dumped the pitcher, catcher, and the coach, at a minimum. His partner did the right thing too.
The manager should be banned for life from coaching. I'd recommend at least a 1-game suspension for the pitcher and the catcher, but frankly I'd be wanting more than that, maybe even up to a season ban. Come back next year when you're had time to think about what you just did.
I've never seen this happen personally, but it's despicable on so many levels.
Yanking pitches up has been happening in the majors for a good while now.
The fact that the catcher makes zero effort to even put her glove up there makes it undeniable.
Disgusting.
As a former high school pitcher I don’t get the frustration. I had so many bad calls made for and against me. Even on my days on my traveling teams it happened. If you’re a good pitcher and you are always in the strike zone you have a tendency to get more close calls. In my opinion most umpires don’t call curve balls and sliders properly anyway.
Come on... you don't mess with rec sport officials. They know the game better than you, and are not even paid just trying to have some fun. The pitcher should honestly be taken off the team.
That was the catcher just as much as the Pitcher. It's also the coach.
That's all on the coach
Why? It was the catcher's fault
tdotallstar It was obviously the whole pitcher, catcher, and coach after the team huddle. The catcher doesn't put up her glove, then turns and walks to the side before the pitch even hits the umps face mask.
tdotallstar Watch it again, the catcher drops her mitt and moves out of the way of the ball before it even crosses the plate. If that wasn't intentional then she must have had a sudden and intense bout of diarrhea.
I reffed a AAU practice scrimmage game one time. I was assigned the job we had a missing ref for a scrimmage game. First play I blew an inadvertent whistle. I instantly had both teams parents cussing me out and screaming at me. I instantly took off my whistle put it on the floor and went and sat in the stands. Fuq that job!!
If I were the parents of the catcher or the pitcher I would yank them off of the team, the program and tell them they would be unable to play sports for the rest of high school. The coach of course was a big part of it but for them to follow those directions? They know what is right vs wrong.
I might not go for the rest of highschool, but definitely the rest of that season.
ha youre obviously not a parent.
My daughter is a catcher and trained extensively by me and other coaches. I was about to show her this video and I told her... "watch this and tell me what you would do if you found yourself in this situation".
As soon as she saw it she said "I'd ask you to take me to another team immediately."
flexor212000 These are 18U aged girls and should've learned enough sportsmanship and responsibility to say NO when that ass wipe of a coach asked them to do this.
Matthew Williams This isn't school ball, this is travel select ball. Had it been school, ball the coach would've been fired and the players suspended indefinitely.
CHAD REISS Awwww, did your little feelings get hurt? Do you need a tissue, little girl?
Lennon Ward You know every one of those bitches parents will forever blame the umpire and not their stupid children. Their precious little snowflakes can do no wrong!
You don’t get a strike call in a “game” and you are willing to severely -ignore- injure someone. That is the lowest of the low. No wonder there is an umpire shortage.
If I did that on the street and threw a ball at someone’s face, I would only be playing ball with Bubba, Shark, and Mack.
injure* your grammar was corrected by a Dyslexic
what
ignore someone?
on the street people aren't wearing pads and masks
@@aus71383*injure*
@@aus71383 Even with a mask things can go differently and a soft ball could cause a stroke, heart attack, concussion, or even death. The coach, pitcher, and catcher can be charged with assault with deadly weapon, or even attempted murder. Doesn’t matter the setting, if you attempt to inflict any sort of physical harm on someone you are committing a crime.
@C Preacher Do you really wish that you had achieved revenge? Being cheated definitely sucks, but do you truly believe revenge is the answer?
If I was that umpire, I would have called for a forfeit. They intentionally threw at him.
What do you think happened?
@@stewartj3407 Tell me you didn't see the catcher blatantly move without telling me you didn't see the catcher blatantly move.
@@MegaForrestgump yep, sure do. You said they should’ve called the game and forfeit, again I ask what do you think happened after the ump walked off?
Coach should be fired instantly. Teaching kids that this is the way to behave when you do not like a few calls in a recreational sport is mind boggling. They should be lined up and slapped. Game to the team in white pants.
you clearly never actually played the game
@@tim7337 I've played, coached, and umpired games at all levels. Regardless, piss poor move on the coach's end. In no world should this be acceptable.
@@brandonlane6937 I’ve played, coached, and umpires on all levels in multiple sports. We need more of this.
@@tim7337 no one gives a fuck what you did in EA sports games
@@tim7337 only a sociopath would think that this was ok and should be encouraged.
The guy at the end is the best "that was obvious..." lol
As an umpire myself, The game is immediately called and the coach, pitcher, and catcher are all ejected. An umpire would write up a report and being filed with the league. This would warrant a suspension. This is terrible sportsmanship. The league takes seriously the safety of on-field personnel - players, coaches and umpires.
OK in this video we saw all of one pitch and one girl walks we have no idea what happened before that and so all of you are encouraging the coach and the kids to head hunt the ump…..really great….
The umpire could've been calling an intentionally bad game all along and that doesn't excuse this behavior.
good job on the infield ump for tossing the coach and catcher
Perfect. Pitcher catcher, and coach deserve to be tossed. Game should be ended right there.
i believe it did end after that
Pitcher should be criminally prosecuted for assault with a dangerous weapon. Catcher and all players in the conference should also be prosecuted for conspiracy. Entire team should be disbanded and all players banned for life.
And their firstborn children so also be forfeited to the league....you forgot that one.
I would have zero problem with the pitcher being irreversibly sterilized while in prison.
Notice how coordinated this plan was. As the pitcher began her throw, the catcher moves away as to avoid catching it. Causing the ball to strike the umpire. This wasn't an accident and the move to leave the field by the umpire was justified. How anyone could go so far as to sully a great game like this is just disgusting. This was totally uncalled for.
I noticed that as well. The catcher moves off the field before the ball even left the pitchers hand.
The coach went out and told them to do it I bet
And people wonder why we’re facing a shortage of Umpires. This guy handled it extremely well. Let the man do his job. Bickering from the stands and responding like this never results in anything positive and it isn’t necessary in youth sports at all. Sets a terrible example
I didn't see anything happen
Harassing the um is a baseball tradition that goes back from the beginning of the game
@@ronniejones8052 needs to end
1. Don’t do it right after a mound visit
2. You can’t run away from it before it even gets to the plate
Believe what you want about the umps calls you can't justify that.
Bighunter 20 Then you're a jerk.
You're the only jerk here Mike if you think this ok. I don't care if the umpire was the worst ever. You don't act like this. It's flagrant and malicious.
Scott Burns I think my comment ended up in the wrong thread. Some dude said he thought it was funny and I called him a jerk.
To be clear:
What the pitcher and catcher (and likely the coach) did was bush league garbage. I'm an umpire (baseball) and would be livid if a team did that.
I'd toss people rather than walk off the field, though. Especially the catcher. She definitely goes first. When the coach comes out to argue s/he goes next. Then I warn the pitcher.
@Puckman637 Yeah, you're probably right. Coach, too.
Can't justify intentionally making bad calls
I'm a semi pro umpire for minor league baseball and I would of ejected the catcher pitcher and coach then no matter who wins the team that didn't plan that would of won
+Billy Simons Are you a semi-pro English speaker?
nope
+Billy Simons Your sentence is unreadable without comma's.
i didnt know a sentence needed commas
Not all do, but yours did.
I've had this happen to me as an umpire. I caught the ball bare handed, tossed the coach, catcher and pitcher, and forfeited the game to the opposing team. Walked the ball to the coach and handed it to him to remember me by. He didn't dare say a word. Coward.
On todays episode of “Things that definitely never happened” 🤣 at least try to make your little story sound somewhat realistic next time dude. You just tried to flex about how tough you pretend acted to a bunch of kids 😂
@@growupdad8922hah. It's definitely a flex for sure. But that's the only accurate thing you said.
I've been an umpire at least 6 summers.. I grew extremely sick and tired of the crap like that.. I had far worse incidents than this, but when girls do this, now you see how far this culture has sunk
Parents and coaches... I judge for several sports and sure enough the parents ruin so much. When parents and coaches pull garbage like this I will immediately question and ejects coaches and players. For something like this, I will most assuredly contact authorities, a ball to the face could be extremely damaging if not fatal.
Now I get whether or not allowed to talk and certain league
Im sure treating misfortune against oneself with violence in turn is a trait we SO want our kids learning.. Yes, please, teach these kids it is okay to strike an adult because they dont like a judgement.. /sarcasm.
There is no way in heII this coach should ever be allowed to set foot on a ball field again. And his team should forfeit their season. Just outrageous.
What a Chad. Gets domed, doesn't even flinch. Just walks away ending the game on the spot.
Look how the catcher stood and got out of the way before the ball got to the plate. Manager, pitcher, and catcher should have been thrown out! Period!
Go play fortnite, clearly you don’t know shit about softball... the ump was trying to punish the girls, and got drilled for it
That type of play get's people hurt and should not be tolerated. Manager, pitcher and catcher should have been tossed for the reminder of the season and put on probation for the next season.
@@targetedparent maybe the ump doesn't need to be calling shit calls...he earned it
@@joshuathomas5279 that type of behavior is NEVER called for. Please make sure you NOTHING to do with sports cause that attitude is not needed.
@@joshuathomas5279 you should not be anywhere near a sports field.You are clueless.
The umpire didn't seem very interested in his job.
An official isn't interested in being treated like shit and disrespected.
Hoang Anh Nguyen He did the correct thing as did the base umpire. The state association and officials association would easily back them up and probably ban these girls from playing further games.
sisbrawny especially when over-bearing parents get involved, am I right? I would have just walked away from tat situation and made sure the coach and that team were removed from the league.
Yeah that is the message to send to kids. When the going gets tough, you hurt someone. Ump should file assault charges.
*****
not true what-so-ever
That was a great job by the base umpire. His partner is stunned, and he's dumping everyone in sight, and stopping the game. Kudos to him.
Assault charges.. damn people like you piss me off, want to sue someone over anything.
***** Not true. From a legal dictionary: Assault is an act that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent, harmful, or offensive contact. The act consists of a threat of harm accompanied by an apparent, present ability to carry out the threat. Battery is a harmful or offensive touching of another.
There's nothing I hate more then parents yelling at referees.
Umpires
That's your takeaway from this vid? A coach tell his team and his catcher to not catch a ball that has the potential to hurt an umpire. Nice life lesson from the moron coach. God help us...
@@egonanderson8869 Yes that's my takeaway. We don't know for sure the coach told the catcher to move. The catcher should be banned for life if she did it on purpose, but we just don't know. None of that changes the fact the parents are idiots.
That’s baseball folks. When the umpire is messing with you, you mess with them the only way you can. Call a fair game, or suffer the consequences.
Exactly and any decent ump knows what can and will happen when they don't. As a catcher, I have let dozens of balls pass by over the years to let the ump know I see his bias in his calls and/or I hear his under the breath smart-ass remarks. Usually, a decent ump will clean it up after he gets tagged by a couple of balls. Although, I usually never let a ball pass by that is aimed toward his head.
I like how they don't even fight back saying no it was not intentional and it was THAT intentional.
I can't believe some people are condoning that sort of reaction. Its always shameful to see mob mentality take over.
Sorry but he deserved it.
Richard Afflitto no one deserves that. Please grow up
@louie mcmullan I made this comment 6 years ago what the hell is going on?
@@cool3929 I feel sorry for your kid.
@@3-ddjr460 💁 facts are facts
I had this happen to me in baseball. Hot day, college baseball, important game and I was not adding to the strike zone when the pitching was sub par..... I got hit, on purpose and had to leave the game. It was.round robin post season tournament. I don't want to infer that my fellow umpires took umbrage........but they did.....
Good
That coach should go to jail for aggravated assault and he should never be allowed near a ballfield or athlete ever again