A warning about moving to the Sunshine Coast, BC
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- The Sunshine Coast, BC isn't all butterflies and rainbows. We talk about BC ferries, the cost of housing (both renting and buying), and running a business.
We love living on the Sunshine Coast but make sure you do your homework before packing up and heading west.
-Val & Paul
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Val Labrecque - REALTOR®
RE/MAX City Realty (Gibsons)
vallabrecque.ca
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00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Sunshine Coast, BC housing shortage
07:41 - BC Ferries
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16:04 - Harder to move here each year
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As a developer, it is onerous! The city makes it very difficult and puts unreasonable conditions. 5 years to develop a parcel is due to inefficiency in the city, lack of communication between departments.
Just for clarity, which city are you talking about here? Although it probably applies to many.
Imagine voting for “socialist” Governments over and over again, and then complaining about taxes? Cognitive dissonance anyone?
We like socialist governments and we like paying taxes.
@@LiveontheSunshineCoast
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YEP. We are insane. Socialism suxxx R.I.P. W.A.C. Bennet
We haven’t had socialism in Canada since the 1970’s and even then it wasn’t close to true definitions of socialism.
If you’re talking about social
Democracy then yes we have universal healthcare in Canada and well funded public education and little private education (religious based schools being the most common type).
This is not socialism.
@@shizuokaBLUES BC is so socialist, it is hilarious. Canada is 80% socialist. The smart folks live in Alberta
no thanks Ferries are a deal killer, lack of medical care, and isolation, not for me, cost of living has gone up everywhere, no different in Penticton BC either, no matter where you go prices are insane, our townhouse went up from $500,000 3 years ago to $850,000 now
The affordability of housing is a big concern across Canada and around the world.
Why don't they have boats dedicated to foot passengers? They should get consulting from Hong Kong Ferries. That place is insane, and the boats run smooth all the time.
Boat companies have tried foot passenger only service from Gibsons. It's just not quit enough regular passenger business to run that boat business.
This entire conversation would have also been accurate had you replaced "Sunshine Coast" with anywhere else on the lower mainland. Too much demand for housing. Too few doctors. Too few workers. On the sunshine coast you are trading cost (cheaper) for convenience (geographic isolation). But Canada is Canada. Broken governance. Insane values.
Sadly, the location could be replaced with a bunch of other places from all over the world. I disagree about Canada being broken. It's going through a rough patch but it'll sort itself out.
perhaps, but "leftie" ruled Canada is one of the worst in the world...why do you think so many immigrants are turning around and leaving after they come thinking they'll make a better life here?..
WOW - thank you for finding the price of Homes & renting ...I guess I will have to stay where I am, here on the East coast. Thanks for your kindness to let me know about these facts.
I used to want a bridge or better ferry service but now I’m happy that it’s hard and expensive to get to the Sunshine Coast. We don’t really need any more population here.
The region will continue to grow in the future. Instead of pulling up the drawbridge, the Sunshine Coast needs to do a better job of keeping up with our infrastructure demands.
Lots of folks on Vancouver Island HATE people moving here. I am in comox valley and while prices are no where near vancouver, but still nuts
Left + time = hellscape with nice weather
Constant rain is nice weather?
I moved to the Sunshine Coast, 1989, living there for 11 years. Talks about expansion of the highway/ferry has always been a sore spot. It always felt like the ferry was tool to control the quality of people wanting to move to the Sunshine Coast.
Keeps the rabble out
The ferries definitely act like a bottleneck.
Ferry locked town 🔒 👍
Corporate professionals retire here. Their social life is in the big city. They enjoy the view from their deck and play in Vancouver. The transient population is a novelty. There is a life here, but its real vein pulses subculturally and never changes. The pioneering local families quietly set the rules behind the scenes. The Coast's soul is the still and timeless mist-drenched Haida Gwaii. Introspection is her gift. For young men heeding the call to "Head West", the road ends here. There is a new life, for those who can take it. It is found in the mist between the land and the sky.
Lots of retired lawyers and academics and engineers on the Sunshine Coast.
Thanks for the update. Still hunkered down on Vancouver Island. Even here it’s gone crazy with RE/Ferries. Glad you’re still doing well along the craziness. Always appreciate your videos!
Thanks. Nice to have things in common!
While speaking of moving, it should be mentioned that vacancies in Self-Storage facilities are very difficult to find and there are long waiting lists for those units that even have one. If you can't find the level of housing you need right away and need to take a smaller temporary solution with less square footage, take this into consideration and don't assume storage availability.
Good point. But I think we just had a new storage facility open up on the Coast either in Sechelt or Madeira Park so that might have eased up on our waiting lists.
First off admire anybody that contributes to social media. Most of what you covered could be anywhere in BC
excepte for the ferries. I live in the Comox Valley, Gabriola before that. Watched all this happen in Nanaimo and recently Comox Valley. Cheers!
Thanks for sharing your comment.
Great advice Val and Paul.
Thank you.
As a longtime resident of The Sunshine Coast, myself and others are feeling that the Sunshine Coast is being commodified, oversubscribed and under serviced. The swarming of Sunshine Coast by new residents is dominating services and the environment. For much more than 1/2 century many Sunshine Coast residents have lived and campaigned for integrated social and environmental wellbeing and abundance. Invading industries, the pressures of mobility and some preconceptions of the place are turning the culture of Sunshine Coast over. I implore people coming here to find out how the Coast works, decomodify settlement and all of us to integrate with new and radical environmental realities.
The Sunshine Coast has its own vibe. People that are expecting Kelowna-by-the-Sea will be disappointed.
Where did you think jobs cane from?
Great update!!
Thank you.
This sucks I live in Powell River Sunshine Coast I've been here 40 years😢😢
Thank you both for your insight. Excited to move to BC next year from Toronto! ❤
You'll love it! Everyday, we look around and think how luck we are to live here. Don't let this video put you off - we have lots of other videos where we talk about all the good things!
BC. Is done ! Ontario too.
Don't. Leave the country instead.
@@Gypseygirls Canada is done, too.
Watching your video while having my breakfast & didn’t read the intro properly. I live on the Sunshine Coast on the east coast of Australia & many of your observations about property prices on the coast apply here. It wasn’t until you mentioned the quieter times & off season for restaurants that the penny dropped. The ‘Sunny Coast’ down under is regarded as sub tropical. Ha ha 😂
Nice to hear from you mate!
The PNW Sunshine Coast is a coastal temperate rainforest.
I was born in BC but have mostly lived in Ontario. I can't afford to retire in BC. I hope to retire to SW Ont, near London Ontario. Milder winters near London than Ottawa. Prices there are better than BC.
FYI: London is in the snowbelt , lake effect
Retiring in BC isn't for everyone. Good to know there are other options in Canada.
I have lived on the Sunshine Coast for over 30 years and am a home OWNER.
I must respectfully ask people to not move here.
The real infrastructure here cannot support the population as it has grown at a rate that things like our water supply and road and highway limitations.
We love it when new people come to the Sunshine Coast but we want them to make the move with their eyes wide open.
Towns are going to populate no matter where you are. It's inevitable. I've seen small communities adapt over some years quite nicely but here it seems they have major financial issues. I have no idea on how to make a town thrive and benefit all but whoever runs the show here clearly has thier head up thier ass. Imo anyways
Go Interior BC. Honestly. Prince George, Kamloops, Williams Lake, 100 Mile House
Going to the interior may works for some and that's good. There are definetly trade-offs between the coast and the interior.
The rain is a pain on the Sunshine Coast
🌦️ We talk about the rain at the 6:19 minute market in this video.
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And so are all the snakes. Nobody talks about how many garter snakes there are all over the whole of Vancouver Island. Just creepy.
@@joannehofmann5700 Sunshine Coast is part of the mainland. I did grow up on Vancouver Island and as a kid, the snakes were everywhere. Some made good pets but the water snakes would snap at you.
Rain doesn't bother some people. Get a good raincoat and get on with life, do whatever you want to do just dress appropriately.
I've flown over the sunshine coast a few times looking for water supplies for the various communities.... sorry.. .there aren't any lakes up there in the hills. Water will be an issue.
There is aquifer water. Just more wells have to be added to the system.
@@LiveontheSunshineCoast if only it was that easy....
It's so beautiful and peaceful is the attraction oc. Despite the cons I see the population growing. No conveniences here that's forsure. I have no problem not making friends here lol! I'm an introvert and I really don't trust people. I keep my circle small. Too much gossip here goes with small communities. But I'll stay out of it. Good place to heal, and adventure outdoors. It takes awhile to get used to but it can be worth it. There is a lot of well off here and that comes with an entitled attitude you get anywhere really. I find them humorous 😂
Lots of truth in this comment.
Is there a market for condo rentals? We'll be downsizing and are only looking for 2 bedrooms.
Hi Steve, there are some condos for rent. I can hook you up with a property manager to help you find a place. I can also email you sights where rentals get listed. Feel free to email me at info@ValLabrecque.ca
@@LiveontheSunshineCoast Thank you Val. Perhaps for now some sites where rentals are listed would be helpful. Our move isn't imminent, so there's no need yet to hook up with a property manager. Also, I'm still in the 'convince-my-wife-that-BC-is-better-than-Toronto' phase! (LOL). I'll email you so you can reply to it.
Knowing several friends who live there, I enjoy visiting there but would never live there. Really, nothing to do in the arts, music,sports,etc. A fun place to go if you can handle two ferries to get there from Vancouver island. Nice people though
Also the BC Ferries are horrific everywhere in BC….the Port Angeles ferry is much better.
Well I guess it's good we don't all want to live at the same place. It's nice when we each find a desirable community that works for us. And sometimes it works for a time and then change is needed.
B,C, stands for BRING MORE CASH and i lived on the coast of p,r for my hole live and it is fun if ya got money or but that is just my opinion nice place to live if ya want to pay to leave or come back
Punctuation is your friend. Try it sometime.
Ferries are not really that bad imo...I have been commuting 1-2x/wk for the last 2.5 yrs and use the "experience card" for 90% of my trips. I tried prebooking some of my trips but it became more restricting for my schedule. 620am off the Coast is a sure bet. Often come back mid week or Weekends 530pm or 705/750pm ferry and only a small handfull of times was it problematic.
So all in all its not that bad.
Good to hear your experience with BC Ferries has been fine.
What - Toronto, Oakville, Barrie is no different so …
You might find you're not as well informed about living in an RV as you think you are. I have many friends who have been doing just this for over a decade. I did it for 4 years and it was great. I lacked nothing in my 5th wheel - it had 2 bedrooms, a washer/dryer, dishwasher, 3 tv's, built-in sound system, forced air ducted furnace, double pane windows, 2 air conditioners, built in vacuum cleaner. If municipalities would get on with allowing tiny homes, you'd find there are many many people who would jump on it - and not simply because of the smaller price tag. If you talk to the RV sales team at Haley, you'll find out that 99% of the RV's they sell are being bought by people intending to live full time in them (this figure was correct one year ago, when I talked to them!)
I hear ya. I think it's great set-up for a single person or even a couple. But if a couple wants to start having a few kids, it might feel cramped raising a family in an RV.
Living small place is better than Vancouver
I agree! Vancouver is soooo busy. I do go in once in a while but can't wait to be done and happy to head back home to the Coast.
Isn't the Okanagan valley sunnier and cheaper ?
We looked at the the interior and found it to be hotter in the summer and grayer more socked-in, in the winter than the Lower Sunshine Coast.
@@LiveontheSunshineCoastit’s getting a Dr. If your young does thinks ore not a priority but as you age it’s defiantly a mayor problem.If you have children it even worse.
My son took a job transfer and it was a bad move . Housing tripled , food was way more and It took him 18 month to find a Dr.
21/2 hours away . That’s the Vancouver Island .
Of course Covid came and the job went south so he had to return back to Calgary. The family loved it out there the housing was just an impossible
task.
Unless you have million dollars to start out with go for it.
Not. Period. I could write 10,000 convuncing words but I’ll spare you.
One word. “Not”
Okanagan is expensive, crazy smoke season, much harsher recent winters at 30 below which has destroyed 80 per cent of the marginal wine industry. So a solid no there also.
I was born in Victoria 1955 and up until 1980. They were not too many people on the island as a matter fact Vancouver right would snob at us Island people oh my God anyways you could drive around and see hardly anybody on the weekend, there wasn’t very much traffic and you could go anywhere in the island. You could find a place to go camping really easy you could go fishing almost anywhere without all the logging roads being blocked off and all the other sites being turned into RV parks now you can’t go anywhere without paying, I don’t even know where to go fly fishing anymore because everything is blocked off and that’s cause home prices go up. I bought my home in 2007 just before the mortgage 2700 square-foot for bedroom $319,000 and that was my first house wonderful and I worked hard, but people wanted to move to Ailun and more people and more people and more people and you know the rule of economics the higher the demand the higher the prices of everything will go. Everybody wants to live in British Columbia. Everybody wants to live on the island that home prices are going up and up and they will keep going up as long as more people move you know that’s the law of economics demand versus supply, so people are leaving now because it’s too expensive people that leave British Columbia the less demand for homes and property and the lower the prices will go and if this keeps going the next generation of young people maybe will be able to afford a home that’s how it works so I’m glad people are moving away I’m glad that maybe things will go back to normal there needs to be a balance and one thing human beings are really good at it’s screwing up balance of nature. We’re no different than the rest of creatures on this planet. We don’t know anything about balance so I’m glad prices are going up. I’ve got my home. I’m paying off my mortgage and I’m still working at 69 years old my God.
Thanks for the comment. I just think there will not be a 'normal' to go back to or a balance. Even if some people leave Southern BC, just as many will keep coming. It's the area with the mildest climate in Canada. Affordability will never make sense in Coastal/Southern BC.
But Sunshine Coast is warm and beautiful. Edmonton and other part in Alberta is cheap but quality of life is not good , cheap but very cold , no outside activities in winter at all . Expensive city is always a reason .
I agree! But I do have some friends who really like the winter in AB for skiing.
@@LiveontheSunshineCoast
Of course, but we can ski in Whistler as well. Edmonton is too cold in prolong winter for me.
@@janiceho6034 It is pretty amazing that we can go up and find snow at Grouse, Cypress, Seymour or Whistler for our winter fun but then come back down to mild sea level weather for the majority of our existence!
And sunshine all winter..here in Alberta
The sunshine in Alberta makes it feel warmer in winter than the damp cold you just can't dress for.
Powell River. It's not such a beautiful sunshine coast anymore. Homelessness, rampant drug use, out of control economy, more and more taxes, no more quality of life.
Those are big issues that a lot of places are struggling with all over the world. I'm optimistic that we'll eventually get it figured out.
Sounds like Campbell River, talk about taxing the shit out of every homeowner
This is what happens when the government lets in over one million immigrants a year WITHOUT securing housing for them. Immigrants get government help with housing, citizens get kicked to the curb by landlords.
Come live here box of Kraft dinner is only 2.50 😂😂
Food is expensive. I lost track of comparing prices to other places.
Cheaper than here
There's only 3 options for groceries, but food is expensive everywhere now.
Not the friendliest community... You can definitely find your group and make friends, but walking about the community, it does not have a friendly vibe.
Sorry this has been your experience.
noticed this, I wonder if it's a combo Van ppl w a "get off my lawn" attitude cash out to buy a house on the sunshine coast and wanting to be left alone, or you meet renters. The renters under crushing stress, worried about losing their home. I can forgive people for being cold/rushed/aloof. :(
The place my OH first rented when he got work out there was disgusting too, old rotted strata w pill bugs and silverfish. anything worth living in was on airbnb for STR. when we looked. it was literally the only unit for long term rent that hadn't been taken.
I have found the opposite. I live here part time and I have experienced more friendliness and generosity than in the city of Surrey where my condo is.
Good riddance @@riggermortisfpv526
This is absolutely true on Vancouver Island. They resent that you're an outsider.
Try on the north end its probably worse .
Houses on the hill in Lund are going for 1.5 million…
The North Sunshine Coast is hopping in demand too, that's for sure.
Until they put a highway through to the “main land” (yes I know), it’ll just be an off shoot and a sleepy retirement community
To some extent the Sunshine Coast has become what the valley is to Vancouver. But the ferry does keep uniqueness, small town feel and community sense to the Coast.
Sunshine coast??? Rain, rain, rain!😂
The Sunshine Coasts gets 231 days of sunshine each year (compared to 333 in Calgary) BUT we also get 330+ frost-free days each year.
The seasons in Powell River …Mud season for six months🌧
Then it’s
Bear season for six months 🐻 😆👍
Suggestion: Val & Paul... Move.
We are having this conversation out loud about our experience so other people, who may consider moving to the Sunshine Coast, can be aware of what to consider.
We love where we live and aren't considering moving anytime soon! 😊
not worth being a landlord
BC is tough to be a landlord in. Ontario too. Other provinces like Alberta have the rights of landlords and tenants more even making it quicker to deal with issues.
They need much more homeless shelters on the sunshine coast.
And federal/provincial/municipal support to avoid homelessness.
Kill me now 😂
Don’t move here unless you have 2 million in liquid assets and a source of income, you won’t find it here. Not available.
That would definitely make life easier!
The ferries could bump the rate 40% and still not be turning much of a profit. CRITICISM of this clip: You don't tell us where you are. I believe you were in Gibson., but you don't mention Powell River or Sechelt. Nor do you show any pics. You can do much better. Hey I hear in Port McNeill you can rent for as low as 1200 a month. lOL this is sad. Taxes and too fat a government are a factor, but God is not making any more land... and... U know the rest
Well I suppose we can mention where we are again in this video but this video is part of our channel where we have an about video at the top and we've posted lots of videos of who we are and where we live and our experience here. You're welcome to catch up on past videos you've missed.
The fuel cartel here is really greedy!!
Seems that way. Wonder if that's all needed to cover the expense of bringing it over here.
BC stands for BRING CASH....or BEFORE CHILDREN...
IF prices are too high for you there, you might want to stay away from the GULF ISLANDS...
Most of the gulf islands in bc are very secluded, takes an entire day travel ( ferry schedule is sparse and dr appointment off island in Victoria bc, or even sydney, is a 12-18 hr day...
The grocery stores on the gulf islands are a joke, they are SO EXPENSIVE...be orepared to travel off island to do your groceries...clothes, suppiles, building supplies etc must be purchased off island unless you are filthy rich...
During covid a single wide trailer, on 1/25 of an acre, sold sight unseen, for $997,000 A FKING derelict TRAILER!!! Not even livable!!! Never mind the cost of a starter home....most sell WAY ABOVE ASKING PRICE...no one wanted this trailer before covid, it was being sold for $445,000 and it sold for DOUBLE the price!
The home i live in sold for $243,000 in 94, it had three residence on the property, a duplex, and a separate house, today my property is worth over 2.5 million...and that was the price quoted me in 2009....i imagine it would be worth far more today in 2024.
Bc ferries isnt owned by BRITISH COLUMBIA...IT IS JUST A NAME...it used to be owned by he province years ago, but today it is owned by shareholders.
"The B.C. Ferry Authority (“BCFA”) holds the single voting common share in BC Ferries. The Province of British Columbia owns 75,477 non-voting 8% cumulative preferred shares of BC Ferries (each with a par value of $1,000), but has no voting interest in either the BCFA or BC Ferries"
"The Province provides annual funding to BC Ferries through a contract that defines routes and service levels."