Ukrainian Waffen-SS: the Galician Division
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2022
- In this video another chapter on Ukrainians that fought for Germany during the Second World War. I wil explore the collaboration in German-occupied Ukraine during World War 2: the 14th SS-Volunteer Division "Galicia". I'll talk about the origins of Ukrainian ultranationalism and factions as the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and its split: the OUN-M led by Andrei Melnik and the OUN-B led by Stepan Bandera. The first pro-German units were two battalions: the Nachtigall Battalion and the Roland Battalion. In 1943 the Ukrainian SS Division was established: the 14th SS-Volunteer Division "Galicia". The Waffen-SS was persuaded to deploy Ukrainian units. And so the 14th SS-Volunteer Division "Galicia" / 14. SS-Freiwilligen Division 'Galizien' / Dyviziia Halychyna saw the light of day. From 1944 known as 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (ukrainische Nr. 1). If you want to learn about Ukraine during WW2, this video is for you.
History Hustle presents: Ukrainian Waffen-SS: the Galician Division.
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SOURCES
- Heroes and Villains. Creating National History in Contemporary Ukraine (David R. Marples).
- Stepan Bandera: The Life and Afterlife of a Ukrainian Nationalist (Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe).
- The Waffen-SS. A European History (Robert Gerwarth and Jochen Böhler).
- Bloodlands Europe. Between Hitler And Stalin (Timothy Snyder).
- Ukrainian Armies 1914-55 [Men-at-Arms 412] (P. Abbott and E. Pinak).
- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) The Soviet Union (Oleg Beyda and Igor Petrov).
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Russian Collaboration in WW2:
ruclips.net/video/cKpj786Sorc/видео.html
Belarusian Collaboration in WW2:
ruclips.net/video/dbOYmKsp0pU/видео.html
Cossack Collaboration in WW2:
ruclips.net/video/c5XX9DUVQ1w/видео.html
Ow this links you mean?
Больше про Ирландскую Республиканскую Армию рассказывай, Шотландский сепаратизм, Гибралтар и Фолкленды.
@@000hellraiser666 yes
@@user-or2uk7sf3w "Tell more about the Irish Republican Army, Scottish separatism, Gibraltar and the Falklands."
Perhaps one day.
0:50 I know English ain’t your native tongue. Hence , just a suggestion from me.
I think Current map would have been more appropriate than Recent Map.
It's a pity the speaker at Canada's House of Commons hadn't seen your videos before inviting a Gallician SS veteran to Zelensky's visit. With the chief of Canada's military seated almost next to the veteran and enthusiastically applauding him, it's clear that many Canadians need more history lessons like this.
Very unlucky event.
@@HistoryHustle At least videos like yours provide a fair history lesson to explain how such an error might have happened and offer a good resource to bring Canadians up to speed on a complex and tragic history.
Those MORONS should not just quit the job but the planet as well
You don't think having a basic knowledge of history would've been better? Does the entire west forget that it was Russia defeating the nazi's in ww2?
It's a pity that the Speaker had to fall on the sword. Where was the vetting process? How did not one member of Parliament not know about the Waffen SS?
The mere fact that Canada and other countries allowed murderers to escape justice in 1947 speaks to their essence: in public they say one thing and do another. The names of all Ukrainian Nazis-Waffen SS division in the Second World War were recorded in the famous lists of Rimini. And Canada knew who it was harbouring and why. And to declare that the ovation of Nazism in the Parliament of Canada was a misunderstanding is simply inexcusable for all mankind.
Well said. If it was not for the Vatican, ALL these murderous rabid 14th Waffen SS Gallica Div. fanatics would have been handed over to the Soviet Union.
That is where these crimes were committed.
The Soviet Union is where, and who, should have administered the justice they deserved.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Bc Canada is not as good as you thought. The allies are also evil it just happen that they won the war
@@HistoryHustle - The curator and sponsor of “Azov” are the country’s former Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov, oligarchs Igor Kolomoisky and Renat Akhmetov. US congressmen even talked about this in 2014.
@@HistoryHustleкакая пропаганда? Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
These Nazis are not only celebrated in "small Ukrainian circles" Canada’s House of Commons just gave a rousing standing ovation to a Ukrainian veteran who fought in the SS Galicia unit. Yaroslav Hunka, 98, was sitting in the gallery when he was described as a “Ukrainian hero” and a “Canadian hero” to applause from prime minister Justin Trudeau and president Volodymyr Zelensky.
That was an unfortunate mistake. The Parliament has apologized.
@@HistoryHustle Well this “Canadian hero” as he was described was fully vetted. So they knew exactly who he was
@@craigraeside5706 If you had any understanding of how woke the Canadian government is (even worse than the U.S.) you wouldn't even ask that
@@watching99134 could we say that woke are ready to march arm by arm with nazis ?
Zelensky didn't hear that this guy fought Russia in ww2? Zelensky doesn't speak English?
Operation Paperclip is no longer a dirty secret. It is on full display in the US and Canada.
Zelensky gave a standing ovation. But Trudeau blames Putin propaganda.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
@@HistoryHustlecountry is run by those bastards. It was clearly shown when Zelensky went to Donbass frontline and demanded for them to stop shelling "separatists" and they quite clearly denied and told him he will be hanged if he tries to interfere.
@@HistoryHustleAzov battalion is not just one unit, its a nationwide movement with hundreds of thousands of members, with youth camps etc.
Then there's Aidar, Right Sector, Tornado, Galichina...
@@HistoryHustlefighting for the soviet union is no different than fighting in the axis side. They themselves are disgusting rpist invaders
@@HistoryHustle bandera is their national hero now, lmao
Westoids like you are disgusting with their CIA hanbooks lies
Given What's happened in the Canadian Parliament a couple of days ago I would say this video aged very well as history always does.
Well done with this piece of work. Keep doing what you doing.
This topic is now all of a sudden front and center on everybody's mind. If only we could all pay more attention to history
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Thanks for watching.
yeah really, good thing the Speaker (the guy who invited Hunka and didn't tell anybody he was going to do that) lost his job.
Yep, exactly. Spot on!
Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
@@user-ts3qo8zo6f Soviet Putin propaganda. Do remember the Soviet Nazis, Soviet duplicity, and that more people died under Stalin's control than Hitler.
You have a lot of balls to make a video about this subject during these hard times
HUGE respect
I'll live. Thanks.
hope you make a video about how the western powers setup this war we are having now @@HistoryHustle
We need to be honest about history. I support Ukraine but it’s history has some pretty dark moments as well.
Why should being truthful be so exceptional?
@@djolivierastro depends what truth's you tell and who doesn't want to hear them. The truth could cost you your friends, anything/everything. Plenty found that out, Mr assange just one. Dr David Kelly another,,, who thought saying ,,there are no WMD's could cost you your life?. 😮😢
Germany formed SS units from most European countries. They even recruited a handful of British POW's into the SS.
Most. Not all. Some of us kept the clean cheek
@@djape1977Poland for instance. Ukraine still glorifies nazis.
Britain also have it but not that popular among the people iirc
This is appreciated. There is always so much more to the story. Thanks for giving us something other than our Hollywood historians bubble gum version!
Thanks for watching.
It's strange that anyone finds this to be new information. While he did a great job with detail, information about this has never been suppressed. It's been readily available and easily accessible for decades. You just didn't care. You put down other sources of information because you failed to know about this years ago. It was there, in the open, all the time.
In one invasion scene in Saving Private Ryan, two apparently German soldiers attempt to surrender and are shot. They were speaking Ukrainian. The producers of the movie knew about the Ukrainians who joined the Germans. You didn't even realize the soldiers weren't speaking German. Now you act as if this was a narrative-breaking revelation. Thank him for a nicely-produced detail piece on a bit of history; but thanking him for bringing something new speaks poorly for your own grasp of the obvious.
Either way, what this sheds light on has more to do with how Putin's twisted use of this history affects a portion of the Russian population... Putin's true audience... than on whether or not the unprovoked invasion (meaning Ukraine did not use violence against Russia prior to the invasion) of Ukraine is in some way justified.
@Skip: I think most people don't read much history and depend on RUclips.
@@skipdreadman8765 They were speaking Czech not Ukrainian. Also in his defense not everyone is a scholar of ww2 and learning more about history is always a good thing even if he was a bit late.
@@skipdreadman8765 No, those soldiers were speaking Czech. Somewhat similar in language, but overall vastly different.
Guenther Deschner „Warsaw rising” (London 1972) - We remember how Ukrainians suppressed the Warsaw Uprising. We remember how she plays the role of KAPO in German extermination camps. We remember the SS galizien, Nachtigall, We remember the ideology of Dymytro Doncov. We remember Melnyk, Bandera, Szuchwycz and other bestries.
We remember the massacre of the innocent and the generally unmentioned "GENOCIDIUM ATROIX" in Eastern Lesser Poland.
We, Poles, require an apology and exhumation.
Ok. Don't think that apology will appear...
@@HistoryHustle I think so too. It is sad. Poles are a Latin civilization and in our cultural code there is a glorification of the defensive war - 'chivalrous' and 'limiting morality' (Feliks Koneczny). Today we help a lot of Ukrainians who are fleeing.
But I'm afraid we'll only lose out on this. Our country is poor, tired of wars, 50 years of communism, and today the rationing of rich EU countries. The hostile potential is deliberately destroyed. And on top of that, there was a "e*pidemic" and a strange war at our eastern neighbor. I hope it will be fine, but the Polish proverb says "hope is the mother of the fools". Tkanks for your work i very like your channel.
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"Ojczyzna to ziemia i groby - narody tracąc pamięć tracą życie" - Homeland is the land and tombs - peoples, losing memory, losing life. Monument to the victims of the Ukrainian genocide (Polish. Pomnik ofiar ukraińskiego ludobójstwa) - a monument located in the territory of the Kraków Rakowitska cemetery. It is dedicated to the victims of the Volyn massacre committed by Ukrainian nationalists during World War II. The famous monument to the victims of the Volyn massacre in Wroclaw engraved the words of Adam Mickiewicz from the poem "Dziada": "Jesli o zaponichmne, jestes niebianski, zapomnij o mnie!" - "If I forget about them, you, God in heaven, forget about me". The assistance of the Polish government to Nazi Banderov Ukraine is a mockery of the memory of the fallen. According to various estimates, 30 to 60 thousand people were killed in the Volyn massacre, and in total in Western Ukraine - up to 100 thousand. Ukrainian nationalists No one was spared - no children, no women, no old people. The victims were shot, but mostly hacked with axes, bludgeoned to death with clubs, sawed, and had their bellies cut with pitchforks. The atrocities of Ukrainian nationalists surprised even the Nazis. Erykh Koh, head of the Reich Commissariat of Ukraine, said: "I need a Pole when meeting a Ukrainian to kill a Ukrainian, and vice versa, that the Ukrainian kill a Polish. If they shoot a Jew on the way, that’s exactly what I want... We don’t need Russians, Ukrainians, Poles. We need fertile land". See the Polish film "Volyn"…
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Part 1. For "Galicia" and the police regiments later included in its composition, operations began with counter-partisan actions. Since February 1944, the Bayersdorf combat group, according to various sources, up to 2 thousand people, operated near Lviv. Gradually, other parts of the division were drawn into anti-partisan actions. They didn't care about cleanliness. So, in February, the SS police regiment (at that time not related to the division) broke into the village of Guta Penyatska, which was considered a stronghold of the partisans. The first attack was repulsed, but soon the Ukrainian Nazis nevertheless took it by storm, after which they slaughtered the population and burned the settlement itself. The SS carried out a series of attacks on villages, killing civilians. In Poland, these acts of violence are rightly qualified as genocide. Galician policemen episodically managed to make war with partisans even in France. But soon they were to face a real enemy.
The baptism of fire of the "Galicia" units in the battles against the regular forces of the Red Army turned out to be frankly not inspiring. The 4th Galician SS police regiment, which occupied Zbarazh, was attacked by the vanguards of the 4th Guards on the evening of March 5. tank corps of the Red Army. Parts of the regiment were defeated and part retreated from the city. In addition, the 3rd battalion of the 4th regiment was lost in the "Ternopil fortress". A unit of 588 people ended up in the city at the moment when the Russians surrounded it. In total, 4422 people were isolated there, so the Ukrainian SS men made up a significant part of it. By April 17, 1944, after a three-week siege, the Ternopil garrison was almost completely destroyed, almost no one survived from the Galicia battalion. The defeat of the battalion in Ternopil was only the first sign of real trouble.
June 30, 1944 "Galicia" went to the front. By this time, it was a serious force - more than 15 thousand bayonets, of which more than 14 thousand Ukrainians and a thousand Germans. For the Wehrmacht and the SS, this was the standard number of a well-equipped formation.
The positions of the division were near Brody as part of the XIII Army Corps of the Wehrmacht. The division occupied a front of 8 km, which allowed it to create a fairly dense defense.
However, the battles near Brody turned out to be a complete disaster for the Wehrmacht and the SS in general, and for Galicia in particular. The Lvov-Sandomierz operation of the Red Army began on July 13, and by the 14th, a hole was already gaping in the Wehrmacht defense line south of Brody. They tried to use "Galicia" to counterattack and stop the breakthrough. The counterattack was scheduled for 8 o'clock in the morning on July 15, and in the 6th position of "Galicia" the Russians had already attacked the forces of approximately a rifle division, reinforced with tanks and assault aircraft. The 30th regiment was practically defeated and rolled back. To the south of the positions of "Galicia" a gap formed - the so-called Koltovsky corridor, into which Soviet troops poured. Attacks on the rear began - on July 17, the Soviet cavalrymen who broke through defeated the communications battalion "Galicia". July 18 "Galicia" was surrounded along with the main forces of the German corps. Panic began to grow in parts of the division, by July 19, under the constant attacks of the Red Army, it became practically uncontrollable and broke up into separate parts. On the same day, the artillery regiment of the division was defeated.
The attempt to break through to the south allowed several groups of Germans and Ukrainian SS men to leave. On the whole, however, the Russians won a brilliant victory.
Among those who emerged from the encirclement was the German division commander Freitag, who immediately after the breakthrough scolded his Ukrainian subordinates, accusing them of cowardice and incompetence. In total, not so much remained of the fifteen thousandth division. More than a thousand people of the rear and spare parts were outside the encirclement initially, and about 2.5 thousand left the boiler. In total, the commanders managed to gather 3.6 thousand people, the rest were out of action. True, some of the rest did not die, but deserted and went to the nationalist formations of the UPA. About 9,600 people died, up to a thousand were captured.
Restoration of the division.
It turned out to be surprisingly easy to revive the defeated division thanks to the huge reserve training regiment, which numbered almost 9 thousand people. Freitag remained its commander. Already in September 1944, "Galicia" received a new task. It was the usual punitive work - this time to suppress the Slovak uprising. Of course, it was difficult to completely restore Galicia in such a short time, so a battalion combat group of one and a half thousand bayonets first went to Slovakia from its composition. Since the beginning of October, "Galicia" has been fighting near the Babina station. However, at the end of October, the entire division was already redeployed to Slovakia.
Surrounded and suffering from a lack of ammunition, the Slovak rebels, of course, were not such a formidable enemy as the regular forces of the Red Army. However, the Ukrainian SS had to fight with them again. At the end of December 1944, parts of the division acted against Soviet troops breaking through into Slovakia. The SS battle group was thrown back from the advanced positions in the village of Yablonovets to the village of Pukanets. She could also lose a fart, but the Russians were pushed back by the Germans who came to the rescue.
As a fighting force, the Ukrainian SS division completely compromised itself, but as an anti-partisan formation it was still useful to the Nazis. Therefore, her next task was to fight against the rebels and partisans in the Balkans. In the winter of 1945, the 14th division was transferred to Slovenia, near Maribor. The prospects, however, were clearly bleak, so the division suffered seriously from desertion. Everyone understood that the Nazis did not expect anything good ahead. Soldiers sometimes left in whole units with weapons. True, it was a long way from Slovenia and Slovakia to Ukraine, and the Germans usually successfully caught and returned these fugitives.
Thanks for taking the time to share this additional information.
That is appalling..... Shame on Canada for harboring war criminals.
You are so underrated, I am new to the channel and started watching since yesterday and I really appreciate your hard work, you have a great uploading schedule while making quality content and going in depth with your videos, people can learn a lot from your videos and I will recommend this to my friends, it's hard to find a youtuber this passionate, keep up the good work Stefan!
Very nice to read. Many thanks for your reply.
Excellent work. BZ.
Ukraninian SS were also used in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising to dispatch the Jews.
Any plans for a video on the Ukranian auxiliary units that were renowned for their brutal efficiency?
Not only in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, but also during the 1944 Uprising in Warsaw (google Wola massacre). Moreover, they were used as guards in death camps.
@@user-py4xc7nu5w Over zealous in their work.
The infamous TRAWNIKI men...
@@daviddoran3673 Search Schutzmannschaft battalion 201 dead zone. Read the article titled Rehearsal for Volhynia
Thank you....I will!!
Absolutely an eye opening historical lecture to me - so much more going on in Eastern Europe during WW2 between the Russians and the Germans than what I knew about! Ukraine, especially, had far more going on than I learned from my University History Courses. Thank you very much for your hard work in historical research and your excellent presentations on this history!
Awesome to read, James. Many thanks for your message!
read Snyder's Bloodlands, and look at his online blog....U History course rarely cover this material
@HistoryHustle какая пропаганда? Это факты! Именами украинских нацистов названы улицы, стоят памятники украинским нацистам? Половина населения Украины разговаривает на родном на русском языке, украинское правительство запрещает разговаривать в общественных местах на родном языке, изучать его в школе. Это разве не проявления нацизма. В 30х годах 20 века Гитлер тоже сначала ввел ограничения на евреев, а затем стал их сжигать. Вы верно говорите в 1941 году большая часть украинцев воевали с нацистами, но тогда не было не украинцев, ни русских, тогда все были Советские граждане. И сейчас почти не осталось этих антифашистов боящихся с нацистами. И когда последние ветераны борьбы с фашизмом выходили на День Победы над фашизмом, современные украинские фашисты их преследовали. Этих видео полно в интернете, как современные украинские нацисты, преследуют стариков победивших фашизм . Это к сожалению так , это не пропаганда.
I learnt about this units existence not more than an hour ago while watching an episode of the "Soviet Storm" series. Its a good way of keeping your mind fresh about the important events on the eastern front.
Excellent video!
Thanks for replying.
Nobody in the house of common (Canadian Parliament in Ottawa) said : "Wait a minute, this guy (Yaroslav Hunka) fought the Russians during WWII, Russians (or more accurately Soviets (including Ukrainian people)) were our allies during WWII, this 98 years old guy was forcibly on the wrong side". Other thing, Zelenskyy is half Jewish by his father, his paternal grandfather was a Soviet officer and WWII veteran, many of his distant or close relatives were massacred by the Nazi and there Ukrainian collaborators, it's impossible that Zelenskyy ignore this kind of historical facts, he anyway applauded with great enthusiasm this SS Galician th14 Division veteran...
Be thankful that modern sionists don't use the Nazi salute.
Sovoet union was an ally of nazi germany.
Canada can be so proud SS Galizien Waffen SS 98 years old Yaroslav Hunka is now an official Canadian and Ukrainian hero 😅😅
It was a dumb move to applaud for a man without a proper background check. Do notice the Canadian parliament did apologize.
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But no apologize for Russia and Belarus
@@HistoryHustle why call s it dumb when I as a guy in Belgium 54y knows Canada and Russia were allies in WW2, making Yaroslav and his buddies the enemy . Chrystia Freeland grandfather Chomiak was a Ukro nazi and daddy and herself are seen in meetings with those vets and holding black and red Bandera flags
@@HistoryHustle without a proper background check? Fake
Well done Stefan. The truth is often reprehensible and easier avoided. I'm pleased you did this...other channels are sympathetic because they think it's expected of them.
Thanks for watching.
Great episode
My great grandfather was born the first year Poland became a country and he was conscripted into the Soviet Red Army and became radio operator, demolitions expert, translator of numerous languages while in Special forces and always told me he could not believe that the Ukrainian partisans his unit was aiding were telling him they killed some Ukrainian Waffen SS in an ambush
Thanks for sharing this.
Were they red partisans or UPA?
@@alekshukhevych2644 they were Soviet backed Partisans like in the movie Defiance
@@jtom68 Makes sense. What is interesting to note is that even OUN-UPA did not support Ukrainians joining the Waffen SS, although they did not kill them. Rather they would punish those caught and then take then into their ranks.
@@alekshukhevych2644 I don’t think they knew they were Ukrainian SS until after they killed them as most Partisans didn’t take prisoners
As always another top class vid, and again if you had been my History teacher I would have attended every lesson. Great work 👍
Many thanks.
The more I learn about the Ukraine past and present the less I respect….
This unit is pretty insignificant in comparison to 6 million Ukrainians who served in Red Army, so don't see Ukrainians as nazis
I agree. Most of them fought against the Nazis.
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I am not a fan of this azov group either. I don’t know why the west chooses to excuse this.
@@chevy4x466 i'd say that everyone excuses azov because Ukraine desperately need a fighting forces, letting to fight to anyone who is willing to do so
Back home in my ex Yugoslavia during school time everyone had History as a subject for 8 years.We studied from beginning of History to modern times.That’s we better understand what happening in the World right now.
Thank you for this balanced history lesson
Thanks Bart!
Love the channel trying to sort out this mess out. Great job.
Many thanks!!
And in 2023 they receive standing ovations in Canadian Parliament! 😂
Not they only one and after it turned out he was an SS veteran the Parliament apologized. Nevertheless a stupid thing they did not check the man's background.
@@HistoryHustle Very true, beyond dumb considering they called the truckers what he actually was. I guess it’s better than here in America where they have a stadium still named after Von Braun. 🤦♂️
wow, those canadian truckers sure whine a lot. Are they still complaining about perceived insults? They sound like Trump supporters.@@the600seconds
@@HistoryHustle Why isn't this Nazi in jail ?
One of the best history channel on YT.Appreciate all hard work you do preparing your material.
Many thanks Jan, great to read.
thank you and best regards from Poland. You show the truth to the world. thank you
Which truth are you referring to if I may ask? Lemme be clear that most Ukrainians fought against Germany.
@@HistoryHustle A ukry zabijające obrońców Lwowa znasz historię?
A ukraińcy mordujący Orlęta Lwowskie?
A Wołyń i nabijanie Polskich dzieci na sztachety przez ukrów znasz?
Rozpruwanie Polskich kobiet w ciąży przez ukrów znasz?
Hutę Pieniacką znasz i mordowanie Polaków przez ukrów?
Rzeź Woli w Powstaniu Warszawskim z udziałem ukrów i mordowanie przez nich ludności cywilnej znasz?
Did I know about Ukranian SS, their history, they're insignia, and the organizations currently using these?
Absolutely. My father and his family were from Drohobycz in Eastern Galicia. My father and his immediate family joined partisans and killed Ukrainian fascists and other Nazi collaborators. Other family members were killed by SS with the aid of Ukranian collaborators.
Thanks for your reply.
@Sternchen *in Your granddad is a hero.
30 SS was Ukrainian too
@Sternchen *in respect
@Sternchen *in my grand grandad worked with polish forces to get rid of these people
It's easy to see why modern Ukrainian ultra nationalists are sympathetic to Third Reich motifs. Among other things, the Ukrainian Waffen SS troops have that carefully cultivated Nazi heroic look that is still appealing today. The power of aesthetics on ideology is considerable.
@nvzx
Why were the Nazis so Stylish?
ruclips.net/video/60FM9WjkXtA/видео.html
"Ultra nationalists" 😂
Don't create new sensless words my friend, those pathethic filth and their modern descendants called faschists (or nazists if you want).
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No. "Nazi" and "fascist" are propaganda terms. Ultra Nationalist better describes them. Either way, the USA is funneling billions of dollars in weaponry to them. Hopefully this won't end in WW3.
Let's hope WW3 won't happen.
@@HistoryHustle
You can say that again. Putin, Zelensky and the USA are playing with fire and people on both sides are cheering them on. As a student of war history I hate it.
A question re the incident in the Canadian Parliament, please.
In an interview, a local historian explained that as soon as he heard the Speaker announce a Ukrainian Canadian who fought the Russians in WW2, he knew exactly what he was talking about.
My QUERY is, would not President Zalensky have also understood that, and even quicker? And did Zalensky join in the applause?
Thanks!
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Yes that is the most egregious think about this. He hasn't been asked about the incident even AFAIK
Why isn't this Nazi in jail?
Another video out at the right time! Having a phase about Ukraine and this helps a lot!
Thanks for watching.
Maaan, I LOVE your vids. So informative, engaging and well detailed. Thank you. Keep up the great work.
Awesome!
Came here to learn more about my ancestors! Thank you for sharing 🇺🇦🇨🇦
Thanks for watching.
Stefan! Good to get a upload from you! Have a great weekend
Thanks!
The most reliable message about those events that I read on You Tube. Respect.
So much quality information on this channel. Keep it up bro!
Thanks for watching.
Didn't a unit of the Galician SS end up in Britain? They came from Rimini DPC where they were held as non-POWs. POW status implied their repatriation. DP did not. The British spirited them out in defiance of Soviet investigators who wanted them treated as POWs and to be repatriated to the USSR. This is from "Hitler's Foreign Executioners" by Christopher Hale. Many ended up in Canada, where they have had an effect on politics ever since.
I played with kids that were the sons of Ukrainians, in England in the 1960s. I had wondered, until recently, what they were doing in the country. Then I found out...
Could be. See if I can find info on it.
Read up on Flight Lt. Bohdan Panchuk
Yes perfectly TRUE. About 4000 to UK and 4000 to Canada
Yes, I know grandson of one of them
Нацисты в Канаде .запад как клоака .
Sir, thank you for posting this information. History in itself is neither good nor bad ..it just is..
Thanks for your reply.
Great Great Information...History is a Fact that when studied and understood gives Truth ! Thankyou Sir for this Great and Important video ! I subscribed and turned on all Notifications !
Thanks James.
I learned plenty from this history channel and other channels and I guess Canadians need to visit this history channel. I could never understand why most Africans support Russia and not Ukraine but I guess that they have seen this and the fact that many Nazi leaders who committed atrocities are national heroes in Ukraine is pretty disturbing.
I'd say that nost Africans don't know much or don't care deeply about what happened in ww2 in Europe but they simply see who is supported by colonial powers that oppressed them for centuries and they chose to support opposite side.
Самый известный русский поэт африканского происхождения))) Пушкин Александр Сергеевич
@@djape1977это не так, Россия много делает для Африки и учит очень много африканских студентов на протяжении многих десятилетий.
@@user-rh6kl1rc9g yeah, I know that, but that's still a tiny percentage of population
@@djape1977 35 000 в год. 350 000 за .10, лет. Это не мало. Мой город 80 000 чел. Или вы хотите чтобы все африканцы обучались в России?)))
Stephan I am still so pleased with all your work. I'm gutted at times how history repeats itself. Do not forget the past or we are destined to repeat it.
Thanks for watching!
Many thanks for giving this info .
They shd be invited to the Canadian Parliament and be given a straight-arm salute by all Canadian politicians.
Canada apologized for it. Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Great video, many thanks! I have just subscribed!
Welcome to the channel.
Great video! Thank you for precision and great detailed work :) :)
Thank you.
i really enjoy your willingness to address uncomfortable issue and you got me when you were willing to adress your own nation difficult issue without a blind eye both under occupation and far east gave me confidance in getting balance info on other topics thanks
Thanks for your reply.
Very informative video.
There is a large 14th SS Galician Division cemetery located in South Bound Brook, New Jersey. Gen. Pavlo Shandruk is buried there.
Thanks for watching!
И как же они там оказались?
@@user-kr4fb1mm1h They came as Eastern European war refugees.
Они приехали как военные беженцы из Восточной Европы.
Is it really an "SS cemetery" or are former members just buried there in an otherwise ordinary Ukrainian cemetery?
@@jamesbarrett918 нацисты - беженцы. Интересно ))
Great video. Another book worth looking up is Hitler's Foreign Executioners: Europe's Dirty Secret. By Christopher Hale. Though a bit long.
Thanks for sharing.
Another interesting vid! Good job!
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The poses that military personnel used to take photos mostly German personal ie 8:33 is amazing and it has to be a big story in itself !
Sharp observation. The photo was of the German siege of Lwow (Lviv) in 1939. But I used it because of the clear sky the quote would fit in.
Why haven't I discovered this amazing channel before? You've covered topics even channels that go deep into minutiae don't go, like The Great War channel. Excellent content.
Btw, it would be really nice to see you talking about the taking of Monte Castello!
Thanks for your reply and welcome to the channel.
Thanks for putting this history lesson together on video! My ancestors hail from eastern Germany and Poland so I find this all very interesting.
I'd love to hear/watch a history lesson by you of what the war was like on the eastern front during WW1, especially from the German perspective.
Great video Stefan!:) just one question not about just ukraine. The german anti-partisan operations: a lot massacres happened during these both east and west.
How could they handle this effectively ? What would be a good strategy? I think about a lot but it’s very difficult I think. Sorry my bad english:)
Hi Adem,
Thanks for watching. About your question. I think the best way was to befriend the locals. But due to the racial doctrines of the Nazis this was never an option to go full into. Mass violence was part of the Nazi ideology to maintain order. It backfired in most cases.
@@HistoryHustle Thank you for your answer :)
History of Ukrainian nationalism in the 1st half of the 20th century had been very obscured until Mr Teacher enlighten us all. Thanks.
I read a cold war era novel back in the early 80s (I forget the name) and it was about Ukrainian nationalists in exile at the time plotting the downfall of the then USSR leadership to enable an opportunity to gain independence. The plot as per the novel failed and at the time I was wondering what it was all about and now I have some idea.
Glad you find these topics interesting.
History Hustle please do not listen to people who say that the genocide on Volhynia is a Polish point of view. Poles want to talk and remember Volhynia. They are ukrainian who had grandfathers in the UPA and do not want to hear and remember Volhynia. Just Like a criminal who wants to hide his crimes. Dr Lucyna Kulińska who deals with the genocide of Volhynia wanted to conduct a series of lectures about Volhynia at Polish universites a few years ago. Dr. Kulińska was blocked when it comes to discussing the topic of genocide on Volhynia...After world war II it was also impossible to talk about Volhynia in Poland because many UB functionaries were in the UPA bands. This topic is also inconvenient of course for those descendants of ukrainian genocides. Please also take into account the fact that the people who miracously survived the genocide as a result of the trauma were not able to talk about its. This is already the duty of their grandchildren. Genocide crimes never expire.
More on it here:
ruclips.net/video/luFVfcW7yAE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/iY-zOOjTO7U/видео.html you are right , watch the movie Hatred Volyn
Canadian here and this video came up on my feed, some excellent work here, the situation in World War 2 in Eastern Europe was a huge mess of different warring sides and I am glad you gave a nuanced discussion of events. Not the simple ohh all Ukrainians who fought the Bolsheviks were heroes or the nonsensical all Ukrainians were Nazis we get currently from the Kremlin, keep up the great work.
Thanks for your reply.
Do you have any proof, links , reports or documents where Kremlin says that all Ukrainians are Nazis?
nice attempt to deny reality ...what is Putin who invited this 98yrs old Ukr SS Yaroslav Hunka 12:04
Not all ukrainians are nazis, just a big chunk of them.
Небольшая пометка от русской: ни разу не слышала от официального лица государства (да и от остальных людей из Кремля типа пресс-секретаря и прочих), что "все украинцы были нацистами". У нас громадное количество украинцев живет в стране, на всех наших памятниках, посвященных погибшим, есть фамилии абсолютно разных национальностей, в том числе и украинцев. И это прекрасно все знают. Потому что здесь живут их потомки. Но никто и не отрицает, что часть украинцев перешла на сторону немцев, в лице так называемых "бандеровцев" ( например, моя прапрабабушка была украинкой, пережила войну и до конца своей жизни говорила, что она "бандеровцев" ненавидит больше, чем немцев). Поэтому в России все прекрасно знают, насколько расколота была Украина еще давно. И что в ней были не только "бандеровцы", но и хорошие, смелые люди.
Part 3. Subsequently, the surrendered soldiers of "Galicia" were never extradited to the USSR, later these people lived in exile as private individuals. During the war, about 33 thousand people passed through "Galicia", of which about 11-14 thousand (the discord was caused by the chaos of the last days of the war) were destroyed, a significant part were captured during the war or deserted.
Most of the SS from Galicia did not have any particular problems in connection with their SS past. Moreover, legal SS veteran organizations operated in Britain and America.
In Ukraine, the SS men are heroized rather for political reasons. Is the division "Galicia" involved in war crimes? Yes, definitely; and as an instrument of the Nazi regime as a whole, and specifically as a military unit. The press regularly cites the thesis according to which the Nuremberg Tribunal "did not recognize" the division as a criminal group; however, in Nuremberg, in principle, no specific military units were allocated; and moreover, specifically German criminals went on trial in Nuremberg, and not all in a row. The tribunal's position was formulated as follows:
In dealing with the SS, the Tribunal includes here all persons who have been formally accepted as members of the SS, including members of the "General SS", SS troops, SS "Totenkopf" formations and members of any kind of police services who were members of the SS. The Tribunal does not include in this number the so-called SS cavalry formations. The question of the security service of the Reichsführer SS (commonly known as the SD) is dealt with in the Judgment of the Tribunal in the case of the Gestapo and the SD.
The Tribunal declares criminal under the terms of the Charter a group consisting of those persons who were officially admitted to membership in the SS and listed in the previous paragraph, who became members of this organization or remained members of it, knowing that this organization is used to commit acts defined as criminal in accordance with with article 6 of the Charter, or those persons who were personally implicated as members of the organization in the commission of such crimes, excluding, however, those persons who were drafted into this organization by state bodies, and in such a way that they did not have the right to choose, as well as those who did not commit such crimes.
"Galicia", of course, did not stand out from the many national formations of the Waffen-SS. It was a fairly ordinary, although quite numerous division, and, like other divisions of the SS troops, certainly does not give anyone any reason to be proud.
Thanks for taking the time to share this additional information.
And it would be helpful if the site did a video on the 29th and 30th Waffen SS divisions
manned by Russian/Belorussian troops.
mald
Not quite true of 42000 called up by Germany on 27000 were selected as fit for service and only 13000 were enlisted not 33000. There is little concrete evidence to support atrocities committed by them other than some anti partisan activity in the Balkans. They were not returned to the USSR as the majority claimed Polish citizenship. Yes nothing to be proud of but no worse than Soviet military atrocities during the war and immediately acter
ROA, the Russian army recruited from pow camps by the Germans, was a lot bigger. It was commanded by Gen Vlasov.
well, Nazi collaborators were everywhere, not only in Ukraine, but in Ukraine they were elevated to the cult of national heroes, so every time you hear "glory to Ukraine - glory to heroes", you know what heroes they are talking about.
Only in smaller circles. Many of these people are remembered despite of them being collaborators. Still not good, that I agree. But it surely does not justify launching a full scale invasion.
@@HistoryHustlethings those bastards did over past 9 years are the reason
Very timely to review this video again now. I’m recommending it to my friends.
Great, thanks!
Weer een interessante video Stefan! Momenteel erg relevant maar dat zal waarschijnlijk dan ook een van de redenen zijn dat je deze video hebt gemaakt :) Zal je ook nog een video op je Nederlandse kanaal posten over de onderwijsdag?
Onderwijsdag?
@@HistoryHustle *Examenfestival
Fascinating ! Thanks !
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Dziękuję za ciekawy film 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for watching.
another great vídeo.very Nice this vídeos about Formations.What about the Finish or the Bretons who serve with the german army or in the SS.
This vídeos contains lots of information about foreign volunters
in german army or in the SS.Not a usual topic.well done!!!
More on the Finnish in the future for sure.
Nice One of these days i Will sent to you some photos and contents about portuguese soldiers who fight in the Eastern front i know you only saw a broken link in the NET but here in Portugal we have more information.it is a non spoken subject here in Portugal.At most our historians talk about Mocidade Portuguesa,which was a youth movement during our ditactorship,mor or less like the HJ.
Like Spain we portuguese,also have a fascist goverment in the previus century,with the leader Antonio Oliveira Salazar.
Cuz there's a big difference
It is a big difference fighting on the Frontline against regular army or being involve in massacres of the civilians .the whole Ukrainian nationalist were involved in genocides.
@@ricardogaspar8545 Never heard of Portuguese volunteers before...quite interesting. The Spanish Blue Division we all know, but Portuguese , no.
The fact they were set scott free even guards at Sobibor which Alan Arkin starred in a film about.
Which film?
Escape from Sobibor is film 1987 or so Rutger Hauer plays a Russian pow.@@HistoryHustle
Very informative vid.Thnk-you. My dad knew a few ss members that worked in General Motors in Oshawa .Ont. Canada
Thanks for watching!
Нацисты сбежали в Канаду .
Walking on thin ice (from the Polish point of view) you managed to tell about these events in an interesting way. However, I must point out that the "Volhynian Massacre" was carried out by the so-called Banderites who sympathized with the UPA but they were not any organized units. That is why it is called a massacre because they were Ukrainian civilians, often neighbors of Poles whom they murdered with the help of not a firearm, but a manual "garden" weapon, an ax, a shovel hoe ... But today, from the Polish and Ukrainian point of view, we do not want to be reminded of it, in Poland everyone knows this part of our shared history, but it's a bad time to bring it back.
and again, thanks Stefan for your work
Thanks for sharing this Karol! Hope to cover more on the Volhynian Massacre later.
Does Poland recognise the massacres in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia as a genocide?
@@gumdeo Yes, since 2016 if I’m not mistaken
@Karol Lorak a zbrodni hitlerowskich dopuścili się naziści tak?
@@PabloPopova Zbrodni wojennych dopuścili się Niemcy i Ukraińcy. Róznica między Niemcami a Ukraińcami jest taka, że Niemcy robili to jako żołnierze a Ukraińcy w 90 % dokonywali mordów na Polakach jako cywile. Zarówno Niemcy jak i Ukraińcy mordowali Polaków na ziemi Polskiej. Ukraina bowiem do 1945 roku była Polską. Takich zbrodni jakich dopuścili się Ukraińcy nie było w dziejach ludzkości. Wymordowali 200 tysięcy Polaków, kobiet , dzieci I starców. Teraz przyjechało ich do Polski 5 milionów i mają lepszexwarunki do życia niż Polacy. Wszystko za darmo, dodatkowo 200 euro miesięcznie .
Wow, great presentation. Very handy for latest controversies.
Thanks for your reply.
Great video and very Informative. I like the comment about stuck between a rock and a hard place. Another one used often is choose your battles wisely.
This also gives insight as to why Putin calls Ukrainians Nazis. History tells us they fought for Germany but all reality their goal was to drive the Russians out of their homeland.....
Thanks for sharing this. And Above all, most Ukrainians fought against the Germans in WWII.
Your channel is absolutely underrated. 2RP's father - Roman Dmowski wrote such words about Ukraine as early as 1930: "
The ease with which the Viennese political spheres from the local narrow notion of Ruthenians (Ruthenen) jumped over to the broad notion of Ukrainians and turned the internal Austrian Ruthenian question into an international Ukrainian one was astonishing. It would be simply incomprehensible were it not for the profound change that took place today, at the end of the last century (XIX), in the situation of the Habsburg monarchy."
Feel free to share!
Dmowski ojcem drugiej Rzeczypospolitej? gdzie Ty znajdujesz takie wynalazki?
@@karollorak7490 nie chce mi się z tobą dyskutować.
Dmowski? That scum whose collaborated with Tsar and even been in Tsarist duma?
Wolalbys z Braunem zapewne 🤔
Thanks for keeping it primarily objective. History, like life, is always in shades of gray. To speak of it as either black or white is oversimplifying it.
Thanks for your reply.
Always impressive research Sir.
Many thanks!
Enjoyed the history lesson. Thank you
Thanks!
For many I guess it becomes a ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ kind of the. Will have to watch this again just to absorb it all
That's where it came down to. Thanks for watching.
Poland has the same difficult situation (trapp). The Nazis never managed to create any SS troops from Poles, in Poland, every country in Europe had such Nazi troops locally anyway
Canadian parliament is honoring a Waffen SS soldier today 23rd Sep 2023.
Source?
@@HistoryHustle It is in the news, and "waffen SS" is trending on twitter.. Zelensky, Trudeau and the soldier were all in the parliament.. It was standing ovation.
@@HistoryHustle A 98 Ukrainean war veteran named Yaroslav Hunka was invited to visit the house of commons by the head speaker, he was introduced as a hero of Ukraine and a freedom fighter and was given 2 standing ovations by the whole parliament, it was only after the event happened that his past in the Galician SS was revealed and it made everyone flip their lid.
Dude I love your accent ❤️ and I love your videos!!!
Great!
Well put! Totally agree with your conclusion!
Always helps to edit if you dictate. My tremors make it very difficult to type. The dictation does not pick up very often! I say well and it types out WILL!
Thanks for watching, Edwin.
I recommend watching the movie "Wołyń"
Good movie but irrelevant to this topic since it's about UPA.
Very well researched. Great breakdown of the history of the Hitler era..Very well done again. 🇦🇺
Hey Phil, thanks for your reply!
@@HistoryHustle my pleasure. 👍🇦🇺
Can you do some research on Michael Chomiak?
Nope, I am traveling till August 2024.
Spot on episode Stefan 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Another excellent summary of a complex topic. We are following the present tragic war and hoping it ends soon with Ukraine keeping access to the sea but not hopeful as there are forces outside of the combat zone who want the war to continue.
Thank you for watching.
Война закончится когда Украина потеряет доступ к морю. Вы это имели ввиду?
Ну, я не это имел в виду, но это был бы один из способов положить конец. Я бы предпочел, чтобы Украина не имела выхода к морю. В таком же состоянии находятся и другие европейские страны, и из-за этого ЕС легко их принуждает. Жаль, что у Хунланда после Второй мировой войны не отобрали все побережье Балтики.@@user-kr4fb1mm1h
Francia had 5 SS division
Holanda had 3 SS division
Hungary had 2 SS division
Norway had 1 SS division
… and it seems to me that it was 1 Russian SS division (RONA).
All of them covered on this channel.
Firstly, regarding the servicemen of the SS troops (it is the "SS troops," and not the "SS at all" - this is not the same thing), the protocols of the Nuremberg Tribunal contain clarifications according to which not all of them are considered criminals. And secondly, and this is the main thing - the ROA has nothing to do with the SS troops. Vlasov's army was part of the Wehrmacht. The 1st Infantry Division of the ROA was simultaneously the 600th Wehrmacht Division, the 2nd - 650th, the 3rd - 700th. The SS troops included completely different divisions from Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians.
Russians in the ROA of General Vlasov were less than half, then - Ukrainians, Belarusians, Georgians, Armenians...
Very informative.Thanks.
Thanks for watching.
The Canadian government along with the Jewish Ukrainina president just gave a standing ovation to one of them.
The Canadian parliament has apologized. It was a stupid move to applaud a man without a background check.
I think You are handling this difficult topic very well. Your final remarks reminded me of a video recently uploaded by the 'Good Times Bad Times', a channel devoted to geopolitics and international relations. The creators of this channel are Polish but this particular video, entitled "Has Ukraine already won?" was mostly written by a Ukrainian author. It argues (among other things) that the current war really finalizes the creation of the Ukrainian nation by (again, among other things) creating national heroes that are for a change not highly problematic and divisive and are finally accepted by all Ukrainians.
Here is the video:
ruclips.net/video/JDf6Zf0JrPE/видео.html
BTW I would love to see you make a video specifically about Pavlo Shandruk, the commander of the UNA, because his biography was really interesting and paradoxical.
Interesting video you share here. I'll check it out. Thanks!
I agree. This war has united all Ukrainians under one flag forever. We feel more connected to each other than ever. In its pursuit to destroy the Ukrainian State and national identity, Russia has only strengthened Ukrainian nationality.
I believe its important to recognise your countries' history (good or bad) and not sweep it under the rug like Russia.
@@HistoryHustle I think it's a bit too early for videos that say that Ukraine has already won.....I mean the war is still not over
@nvzx "War heroes". Don't delude yourself, friend. Bandera isn't a "war hero", he was just cowardly piece of garbage which german masters used as nd throw away like it always innevitably happen with such pathethic traitors and collaborants.
Bandera - is literally the most opposite to any kind of "hero".
#Roger: did I say that? Future will tell.. Anything can happen now...
As I've said in a previous video, the politics of the area were more complex than most people realize. Between a rock and a hard place is a good analogy. Before passing judgement, I think people need to really think about what it was like to be caught in the area at the time, and between two bloody dictators. Who really did worse to you, Hitler or Stalin? I'll be blunt and say that I can't blame many people from the USSR for siding with the Germans, if for no other reason than they experienced Communism, and now thought that the Nazis could be the lesser of the evils. If the Nazis had been victorious, it probably would have been a different story. As The Who once sang, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Take care.
@nvzx It is not difficult to check the list of participants on the side of the Germans:Dirlewanger Brigade and
Kaminski Brigade (RONA), if they included part of ethnic Ukrainians, it is too loud called them"ukrainian ss division".
@sirdarklust: thanks for sharing your insights on this.
Don't ever compare Stalin to Hitler. None of them were actually worse than King Leopold whose name is hardly brought up by western imperialists. The worst crimes against mankind were perpetrated by the West. If you care to know, learn the atrocities of the West in Africa. The first German holocaust was visited upon the Herero people of Namibia. Stalin was no brutal than any Churchill whose atrocities against India is not a secret.
Weird, i live in a socialist country and it ain't that bad but you Americans (?) seem to really hate it. Damn, the U.S government is good with propaganda.
Rock and a hard place? This is an excuse cowards make.
👍 Thanks for the Video
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It’s very interesting to watch I vid about the grandfather of some friend of mine and even ancestors of myself
Thanks for sharing this.
So who were the Ukrainians at Babi Yar?
You mean?
@@HistoryHustle you said the SS units weren’t created until after Stalingrad, who were the Ukrainians who quite proudly massacred all of the Jews at Babi Yar?
@@LKaramazovBandera's OUN, Shukevich etc
Wasyl Weryha in the book “Dorohami druhoj switowoj wijny. Lehendy pro uwast Ukrainiment in the Warsaw Uprising 1944 ... ”(Toronto 1980) proves that the Ukrainian Waffen SS division Galizien (Hałyczyna) did not participate in the pacification of the Warsaw Uprising. However, it is a fact that the 150-person Ukrainian police company stationed at Aleja Szucha belonged to the SS Galizien, as A. Borkiewicz writes in his work "Powstanie Warszawskie" (Warsaw 1957), and even Kazimierz Podlaski (p. 97) considers it probable. ). Thus, the history of SS Galizien is also stained with the blood of the insurgents and the population of Warsaw. The crowning evidence that SS Galizien soldiers were in Warsaw during the Warsaw Uprising is, among others, the fact that these Ukrainian SS-men spoke Polish (Aleksander Kamiński "Zośka i Parasol", 3rd edition, Warsaw 1979). So they were Ukrainians from Galicia (where the volunteers for the SS Galizien came from), because the Ukrainians from Russian Ukraine did not speak Polish. Also the German historian Hans von Krannhals, author of the book "Der Warschauer Aufstand 1944 ..." (Frankfurt am Main 1962), proves that there was a company of the SS Galizien division in Warsaw.
Thanks for sharing this.
Thank you for your video. The world is quite inconveniently complicated.
It is. Thanks for watching.
this video was very informative . it’s hard to find non bias history on this subject- thanks for posting !
Thanks for your reply.
Dzienkuje za wspanialom prace ,mam wielki szacunek za to co robisz !!!
Bottom line is they attacked and slaughtered civilians
And that's not ok, indeed.
Your video aged like fine wine
Ok.
Interesting iconography. Know any connection to Sweden, Professor?
Someone asked me before. I think it's coincidence and don't think there is any connection.
@@HistoryHustle asked because of the 3 crowns mitif.
as far as I am aware the nazis in ukraine, like everyere else , are minority. but they are very active and, because theyr activities suit the americans, they are widely supported. so you are correct - not everybody celebrate galician division anyversaries and etc. the common man just doesn't dare to oppose the nazis. you might know that, but in case you don't, will tell you few words about the past of galicia. once it was russian kingdom. in fact the only russian kingdom - the ruler there was king Danila( or Daniil) Galitsky. all russian rulers, apart from him had the title "tsar" or "imperor" later. and the sity of Lvov, renamed nowadays to Lviv, was named after the son of king Danila, whose name was Lev(lion). sadly - that once beautifull and strong( thanks to the kommunists) country is being destroyed now in the interests of the USA. forgot to say - interesting video. thank you for making effort to make it
Some people claim Ukrainian WW2 collaboration supports Putin's claim. Do notice that most of the Ukrainian Nazis of back then are dead today. Besides: most Ukrainians in WW2 fought against the Germans. Ukrainian Nazis of today have no influence in the government. There is of course the Azov bn but this is only a fraction of the Ukrainian armed forces and aren't representative on a whole. The reason why the current Ukrainian government supports these is pragmatic: there is a war going on and they need all the support they could get. It is of course questionable. Then there is the argument that nationalists support collaborators from the past. But these are again not representative for every Ukrainian. On top of that these men aren't remembered because of their collaboration, but despite their collaboration. How these persons came into the collective nationalistic memory of Ukraine is something to cover in the future. I'd say: don't believe in Putin's propaganda.
Can you make a vídeo about Stalin crimes in Rússia.
ruclips.net/video/zEgJzIdxmc8/видео.html
,ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. How much time you got!!??
How would a person find out if their Ukrainian relative was part of the Waffen SS? My grandfather left Ukraine and went to "work in the mines" of Germany during the war... is there anywhere that you know of that I can inquire if he was in service with this division? I hope not, but always had my suspicions
This is quite easy to understand from the system of views and values. The Nazis are literally like zombies, they have serious mental disorders.
You can pay attention to manifestations of hatred (a healthy person would not hate someone), illogicality, short-term memory, racism and focusing on nationalities.
Imate li neki video o Holanđanima u Waffen SS?
How about 9 videos. Here
ruclips.net/p/PL_bcNuRxKtpH80zEWzRuvOVAc2C0M7C1V&si=i5CormuqhSHFLRp5
Ima
there was a mutiny in France of Ukrainian ss who shoot their german officers and staff then deserted to the french resistance after the war they join the french legion fighting in Indochina
foreign legion a cesspit of criminals for years, think vetting now for it though is very strict
That was another unit. I point this out in the video.
@@shutup2751 entering the Legion with a criminal record can them forcing you to stay until no arrest warrant exists anymore.
@@HistoryHustle indeed some SS were admitted in the Legion, some of them joined a special unit within the legion created by the President De Gaulle(1965-1966). These were the only SS the Israeli Knesset asked for ending their contract estimating they had done their pitance(1973). This is also the only unit in the French army of which all members received the 'Legion d'Honneur' for their exploits in operations for the UN Security Council.