The DARK SIDE of Guadalajara!
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Although we LOVE Guadalajara, it does have an ugly side. If you want to move or travel here, better watch this!
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After living in Guadalajara, Jalisco for over 4 months, we found a LOT to love about it. The activities, the people, the weather, and more. However, many people have told us they're planning to visit or move to Guadalajara after watching our videos about it. We felt obligated to share the "other side" of the story: the ugly side of Guadalajara, Mexico.
So what is it like living in Guadalajara as an expat? Well, we answer that in many of our other videos about Guadalajara, Jalisco. But if you're wondering what might be some of the downsides of traveling to or living in GDL - this travel vlog is for you.
These are things that are less desirable or possibly deal-breakers about GDL, México for some people. Hope these help you learn a little more about one of our FAVORITE cities in Mexico, Guadalajara.
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3:35 He ask you if you going to live in guadalajara "y se van a quedar a viví aquí o no?
I love your videos
Al Pacino - We can't wait to do that! Still haven't been to a soccer match yet. :)
Tangerine Travels Yo soy de Guadalajara un gusto que estén aquí
Guadalajara is my favorite city in Mexico. I've lived her for 8 months now, and I'm still happy here. Part of it is that I thrive in a faster paced city; I lived in New York City for 25 years, and San Francisco before that, so the slow pace of most cities (like Merida or Veracruz) puts me to sleep. Guadalajara feels right. It's a great walking city, too - although I do carry a small flashlight in my pocket at night to help me avoid holes in sidewalks. It's no more dangerous to walk in at night than the cities I've lived in in the USA - and feels safer than NYC in the 1980's or SF in the late 1970's.
This video was done in a newer part of town - which looks more like any U.S. city. I prefer the older neighborhoods, with houses built against each other, local mercados, and small stores selling just about anything you could want. Between Av Americas on the East and Calle Independencia on the west, between Calle Jesus Garcia on the north and Calle Juan Manuel on the south, excluding the Americas neighborhood - those are my favorite neighborhoods - and they're pretty different from the neighborhoods Tangerine Travels videos. Well, and Mexicaltzingo, which is one of the oldest and most interesting parts of the city to me, but which is a mix of old blocks, new incursions, and broad avenues driven through in more recent historical times to carry the city's traffic. They are sometimes described by gringos as sketchy looking - but neighborhoods where old ladies and moms with kids walk around at 8 or 9 in the evening can't be all that dangerous. And a lot of sketchy looking people here turn out to be ok if you end up talking with them for one reason or another. The general building helper at an Airbnb apartment I stayed at, for example, looked a bit scarey when I first saw him - I didn't know he worked there, and I thought unkind thoughts. But I said "buenas tardes" anyway, to see how he'd respond, and it turned out that he was friendly, helpful, spoke a little English and did odd jobs around the neighborhood. So take a moment before you judge here. Just be careful like you'd be in any city, and call an Uber if you get spooked.
One of the city's pluses, for me, are the trees - there are lots more trees in the older parts of town than in the older parts of the other cities I've visited. It's worth dealing with the roots - which are amazingly wonderful sometimes.
In more residential neighborhoods, especially the older central neighborhoods I like most, many people still say "buenos dias" or "buen dia" in the morning, "buenas tardes" in the afternoon and "buenas noches" in the evening when they pass you. It's a neighborly greeting - because while you're in the neighborhood, you're part of it's life. The "rules" for when you say it and when you don't are flexible and you pick up on them pretty quickly. I wasn't expecting this in Guadalajara, although it's common in more tranquil cities like Merida. But the neighborhoods I like here are still very much like the Mexico I knew decades ago.
Nice input! Do you speak Spanish?
I don't like fast paced anymore, I like slow paced and tranquil, to each their own.
People in Guadalajara do speak a little faster but the vocabulary is very proper there opposed to the common ranch/street/casual/slang words used. More education is correct.
We've found it to be true time and time again. It's great to be in a highly educated city. That's how progress happens. :)
Tangerine Travels Is decay of culture truly progress?
Marta Guy The problem with that is that most "slang" is actually just Aztec loan words, and reviving Nahuatl will be that much harder by shaming people out of a broader vocabulary.
This was a major issue for Ireland as they attempted to revive Gaelic, as the people were shamed and insulted to use "slang" which was really just the Native tongue refusing to die.
@@maggiep9007 I don't think it's shaming people for using the native language. They simply use proper Spanish.
Marta Guy
"Proper" anything is always established by shaming others out of their own way.
The trees in Guadalajara are amazing and they deserve the respect they are given.
The trees are really great and healthy and the air is more cleaner that you think because of the rain (take my word for it i spent more than 50% of my life there)
Americans want to cut every tree down. This city is at 5000 feet above sea level. How is that, in any way, similar to Houston? These kids are idiots
my dog has peed on some of them
@@cliftongreene5318 you think Mexico is more environmentally conscious than the USA?🤣👎🏿
@@arthurragan1332 yes
I teach English as a second language, my students would say you speak too fast, and they feel exactly the same way you feel when you speak Spanish. It’s a matter of practice and training in listening comprehension. It takes time, but the more you practice the easier it gets. I must congratulate you for your Spanish is pretty good and getting better!
I'm from Guadalajara. When I read the title of the video I was expecting something completely different. I'm happy to see that you enjoyed so much Guadalajara that even the ugly part doesn't sound as ugly.
I would say that something that is affecting most cities in Mexico, sadly, is crime and violence. Let's hope Mexico can recover from that soon because as you're experiencing, our country is beautiful, rich and welcoming.
Thank you for your videos.
Hector.. it's been a couple of years since you posted this comment. How's the situation like there in GDL now? I'm thinking about moving there with my family and will of course visit first but it's always nice to hear the unvarnished truth from a native.
Hi John. Guadalajara is a beautiful place to live with all the advantages of a big main urban destination but not as crowded and messy as Mexico City. If you can choose, it's a good idea to live in Zapopan that is part of Guadalajara's metropolitan area.
Guadalajara is a vibrant beautiful city with an amazing weather, lots of activities and places to visit. The crime and corruption problem remains sadly but it's unfortunately generalized in the country. Just keep the regular caution measures that you'll have in any major city (like New York, Paris or Madrid). Avoid bad neighborhoods, don't display valuable items, park your car in safe places, ideally paid parking lots, avoid being distracted when walking on the street and don't trust strangers.
Another issue is the traffic and bad drivers, that's a problem that has been raising due to the population growth.
I lived very happy in Guadalajara for more than two decades and I really enjoy it when I go back to visit.
Wish you the best in this new endeavor. You'll love it.
@@Billymedia Thank you very much for getting back to me so quickly Hector. If the generosity you have shown is any indication of what it's like to live in GDL I think we will be in for good company.
@@JohnChatman did you end up moving? If so, how is it?
Born in L.A raised in Zapopan/Guadalajara I love that place.
Please please please never say there are too many trees... Temperatures have been getting higher and higher every year in Guadalajara because government or private investors keep cutting down trees for building purposes. Also contamination and increase in floods are cause because of this. I believe repairing sidewalks is a low price to pay for the job they do.
We are all for the trees. Keep them all! Not to mention cleaner air and the coveted shade. We don’t want anyone to get rid of any. 😋
Think of it like this: For the price of repairing one small portion of a sidewalk, you could probably plant 100+ trees, maybe 1,000+ elsewhere. After all, planting a tree involves nothing more than getting seeds, sticking them in the ground, and letting nature do the rest of the work. I'm not saying have fewer trees in general, I'm totally in favor of having a lot of trees!
Trust me, it's not that easy. I'm friends with several environmental engineers and I myself took some classes during college. The vast majority of threes that are planted don't reach maturity, and while they're growing they don't have nearly the same capacity of CO2 absorption and temperature regulation that grown trees do. The trees near the Centro of Guadalajara have 30, 40, 50 or more years, it would take decades for young trees to contribute as much as they do. Even when they grow where the trees are is as important as how old they are. Even if when fill the outskirts of Guadalajara with trees, the inner parts will get hotter and more polluted if we keep cutting down trees. I'm sorry about the long comment, have no doubt I live the videos you make (I've probably seen 90% of them) and I respect everything you said in this video, but this right now is one of the most important problems Western Civilization is facing.
Thanks for your thoughtful response. You might be a little confused by our replies...in case you were wondering, one was from me and the other from Maddie.
Yeah I thought so, I don't know if I'm right, but Jordan like to say "think of it like this" :P
I truly believed this video was going to be about the 'Dark Side' of La Calzada.
**Only locals know what I'm talking about.
La calzada de dia ? O de noche? Ja ja ja
This video sucks, they didnt even show .01% of Guadalajara. The laundromat is 3.50 full service.. misleading
@@timothy7231 You make one Timmy! Go...we wanna know ALL about Guadalajara
@@travelclubwithnicolekelly2432 lmao exactly. yeah Timothy show us how it's done lmfao
Esque la gente de Guadalajara hablan fresones, como si trajeran una papa en la boca. I struggle understanding them and that's that I'm Mexican.
To be fair, these problems are not exclusive of Guadalajara, all major Mexican cities share these; Cities grew in size, disorganized, and the infrastructure didn't grow on par.
but i believe not many cities in mexico has glorietas guadalajara is known for the excesive amount of glorietas (roundpoints)
I believe all mexican cities have them. Glorietas or rotondas (roundabouts) are actually more efficient at regulating traffic than regular intersections such as crossroads.
Source: The MythBusters lol: ruclips.net/video/BvNO8LWVfAg/видео.html
Not all glorietas are created equal. go to France if you want to see it done in a way that makes sense. I have seen people drive the wrong way for half the glorieta in Mexico. The problem is not the circle itself...
A1 A1 Mmm... actually people from Guadalajara don’t like moving to USA.
Come to check Chicago ...lots of potholes all over...and they don't even repair it...then cut the streets and leave them unrepaired for long...how about graffiti in New York..and people homeless in L.A?... talking about of city imperfections... roundabouts are pretty common in Europe as well... tell me about rats in NYC..?
Yes, GDL is more expensive because it has a higher cost of living: salaries, real estate are the highest of the region. Like any big city around the world like: Singapore, Buenos Aires, Sao Palo, etc. GDL has been through like the last 500 years, the capital if you like, of the west region of the country. That have attracted trade, commerce and few factories/industry to the city, and people. Since colonial times GDL has been relevant, at that time, its name was: Nueva Galicia
That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for sharing Rogeroga.
A1 A1 Ask them what their fathers did, and they will all say "ranching"(they also call farming ranching).
They're not from the wealthy city, they're ranchers from the surrounding areas.
A1 A1 (They flee for money).
(There's no money being a 12th generation farmer).
(Especially when your brother will inherit the land, not you).
El reyno de la nueva galicia independiente del vireinato de la nueva españa y conformava los actuales estados de zacatecas, aguascalientes, nayarit, colima y por supuesto xalisco(actual jalisco) su capital era guadalajara, de echo un dato curioso el conquistador lopez de legaspi partio de el puerto de navidad(actual barra de navidad jalisco)a la conquista de las islas filipinas, no solo llego a las filipinas sino tambien a las islas marianas, carolinas, guam, palaos, nueva guinea, y jolo en malasia, y todos estos territorios conquistados pasaron a formar parte del vireynato de la nueva españa por mas de 300 años, y tambien llevaron con ellos a muchisimos tlascaltecas, por eso las personas de esas tierras lejanas tienen desendencia y sangre tlascalteca
Guadalajara is beatiful city..have so much restaurants..whit delicius food,and very nice places,Chapala lake,Tlaquepaque,Tonala,Zapopan,etc. The people in all Jalisco is very nice and try well...all tourist of all the world...welcome..all..Mexico is beatiful,no is dangeours.
Hello my friends, if you want to learn Spanish you have to go to the University of Guadalajara, it is very likely that they have an area where they teach Spanish for foreigners, they will be surprised by the prices and the quality of the teaching that there is in a school public. regards
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Thanks for showering Laska with all kinds of love! She seems to be healing well :)
I am glad to hear Laska is better She is so beautiful. I don’t know Husky dogs ( we had a Golden Retriever) so I am wondering if all or most Huskies “talk” the way she does? It is so cute !
Ah,....her ear, just boils me MAD when the kennel owners replied no problem when you asked them how Laska was, I hope for their own comercial wellbeing you denounce them to Profeco.
Godspeed Laska!!! 🐶 🍊
Tangerine Travels I love ❤️ Laska she’s a cute talker. I was very upset about what happen to her. She’s an adorable 🐕 dog 🐶 just adore her. I hope she keeps healing well, God bless her and you guys always. Greetings from New York City 🌃🙏❤️🤗🥰😘🐶😍👍🐈🐩
Hello All, this is not really a negative video. I think it is pretty fair. I am from Guadalajara and I think that if these are the negative things, then GDL is pretty awesome!!! Well done tangerine travels. I love the videos.
I'm agree
Manuel Gonzalez Hi, what part of Guadalajara would you advice someone to stay (Airbnb or hotel)?
@@brasero20000 I've been to Guadalajara a few times and, from my experience, there are some decent hotels that are pretty affordable compared to the US. I don't know about Air bnb's though...
Fact: The Via Recreativa's objective is to encourage the general population toget on their bikes and ride more. Really backing up biking as an alternative for public transportation.
3:28 “Y ya se van a quedar aquí a vivir? O...?
@@grygory1339 Mejor que se queden y disfruten como cualquier humano tiene derecho, xenófobo de 💩
@@patrick594 mucho extranjero se vienen a vivir acá porque es más barato te apuesto que si no fuera así ni estarían aquí.
I love Mexico, here in Guadalajara, everything it is not OK, but most are good; things that are not right maybe we can fix it. We are the solution, If not us, then who? If not now, then when?. We must take action, but never fail to try to make our world a better place to live. Mexico is a great place to live. If you don't like something takes action, write to the newspapers or TV stations and let them know how they can fix the issues that make Mexico ugly. Help to make Mexico the best place to live.
Thanks for sharing this information with us...!
As someone who is considering moving to Mexico
to live out the rest of mine and my wife’s days, we like
hearing an honest, well rounded report on the different
areas including what’s good and what might not be so good...
Please keep these reviews coming.
Have a great day and be blessed.
So glad to hear you appreciate videos on both sides! There are so many great things to say about the cities we visit, but we think it's nice to throw a little bit of "reality" in there. :)
I miss my city! 🥺❤️It's nice to hear about Guadalajara!! I hope go there soon!
Alberto Mendoza I was just in Guadalajara. Beautiful city and well organized. I plan to live there for at least two months to improve my Spanish.
Oh Man, you guys think tapatios speak fast? Wait till you visit northern Mexico. People from the north are the one who really speak fast and have a very heavy regional accent. People from Guadalajara actually have a pretty neutral accent as far as Mexicans go.
I love Guadalajara! ❤😘🇲🇽
Guadalajara need fix all town
Very informative video. My heart skipped a beat when you made a comparison to Houston, as I am moving down there to be closer to my family in less than a couple of months. Keep up the great work, and definitely keep us updated on the healing of your furry friend's ear. While I've mentioned this before, I want to thank you for how well done your descriptions of things are. If you close your eyes and put on one of your videos, you'll quickly see why that is vitally important for a blind viewer. I look forward to hearing more from you guys in the future.
This really warms our heart to hear Tristian. We are so happy to know you can still enjoy our videos from our descriptions despite not being able to see everything. We’ll try to keep you in mind even more as we’re creating new videos to make sure those helpful descriptions continue to stay prevalent. Thanks for asking about Laska. She’s doing much better already! 🧡
" ¿Y ya se van a quedar a vivir aquí, ó...?
‘Y... ¿ya se van a quedar aquí a vivir o...?’ (So are you going to stay here to live or...?)
@@crls1m dice “a vivir aquí”
We really appreciate your candid, straightforward, honest presentations of everywhere you go. Yours is one of the only channels we like to watch. We’re nearing retirement, and the fact that you don’t just show party and tourist spots is great! Thank you.
I’m so happy with all your videos important facts to know. You guys are doing a great job.
Proud to be from Guadalajara, Jalisco! Saludos a todos
It's kind of funny. I'm living in Ho Chi Minh City, and the glorietas in Guadalajara look pretty organized and peaceful compared to here ;)
It also reminded me of a comment my dad made to me when I was complaining about the traffic in Tijuana 10 years or so ago. I said, dad the traffic is insane! There are no rules! He replied, there are rules son. You just don't know them. Ha. So true.
How are you not verified..
Your dad is 💯 percent right.he is a wise man.
If it means anything, you guys helped me out a lot. I’m considering making the move to Mexico very soon, and Guadalajara was at the top of my list. Weirdly enough, I’ve always had this serious fear of flooding (coming from New York where it just doesn’t happen and also a traumatic incident I faced as a child). I’ve always avoided water even, won’t go in a pool where it goes above my shoulders. I’m very serious about it. Not to say I couldn’t overcome that fear, but I think it’s best I look elsewhere but at least close by until I’m ready to. I had no idea, I didn’t find that anywhere in my research. I appreciate these videos. All of them. Especially the more informative ones that talk about things that might not always promote the area you’ve chosen to live in. It’s real and actually helps. Thank you.
When I got married I moved from Torreón, Mexico to an Airforce Base (Tinker in Oklahoma) I got sooooooo depressed from not only being uprooted and leaving my everything (family and country) but because of THE LACK OF NOISE in the US.
I HATE that neighborhoods are cementaries here. I'd be so happy living in a bigger city in downtown. LOL! My husband thinks I am crazy, but it really depresses me. I need neighbors blasting their music, boys playing outside my house hitting our walls, trucks and public transportation buses and people talking while they walk outside my house, vendors yelling "Gorditaaaas!" or whatever all day everyday. Hahaha. Over 10 years in the US married to an American and I still don't get used to the lack of noise and I never will.
Guadalajara is so big and modern looking! Although I love the conveniences of bigger cities, I also love the charm and the quietness of smaller towns. Living in Ajijic close to Guadalajara gives you a bit of both! Great Video-You look beautiful with the flower in your hair :-)
You are so right! That's why we love Ajijic and many other people appreciate that fact as well. :)
Por si no lo han notado, También ustedes hablan demasiado rápido su inglés, lo que hace un poco difícil seguir el ritmo de sus diálogos 😂
Y en general creo que GDL es buena ciudad para vivir, a pesar de algunas 'cosas malas' que efectivamente existen, como el tráfico que personalmente creo es su principal problema
Y que se inunda ja xd
Conmigo no hay broncas porque también se habla rápido :v así que, una es hablar el idioma y otro es Como lo hablas y/o lo entiendes. Si ellos hablan rápido, pos se les entiende porque hablamos rápido.
De hecho, Los Tangerines hablan inglés bastante despacio y entendible, sobre todo la chica. Los clips que pasaron de tapatíos hablando... que rápido español. Soy mexicana y batallé para entender!
Cuando alguien dice que habla rápido, quiere decir que no habla bien el idioma, lo mastica.
El transporte público es una mierda hermano
We visited Guadalajara earlier this year, which I was really excited about after hearing you guys saying such good things about it. Unfortunately my husband got sick just as we got there and we ended up staying only one night so we didn't get to explore the city too much. Hopefully we'll be able to come back and see it properly one day.
Thanks again for the video. Really enjoyed it.
I believe dialects are sometimes mixed in with regular Spanish. I have been learning Mexican spanish from my friend and there are times I am completely lost. It is such a amazing language. I love dogs but also love cats and it was fun to see the cute street kitties.
Give Laska a hug. Sending greetings and love to all three of you from Spokane, Washington. Stay safe and God bless.
Mi ciudad Guadalajara pasó de 1´000,000 de habitantes a 5´000,000 en sólo 54 años, lo que demuestra su gran dinamismo, atractivo y empuje, pero es inevitable que existan cosas malas. Ah y nuestro idioma es español. Saludos amigos gringos y aprendan español aunque sea lo elemental.
ya hablan bien, no se que tanto pides cuando tus paisanos en EEUU no hablan el nivel de ingles como ellos hablan español.
Ovide Ya hablan español ? en qué parte ?
Ovide Benitez En E.U. hay 40´000,000 de personas que hablan español. Además Estados Unidos aunque la mayoría (80%) habla inglés, no tiene idioma oficialmente..
Para tu información nuestro idioma no es español es castellano cual es la diferencia no se
Para tu información, decir _español_ o _castellano,_ ¡ES LO MISMO! *La Real Academia de la Lengua Española* perfectamente acepta y aprueba su uso como sinónimos en cuanto a su acepción para significar este LENGUAJE. Por lo que es totalmente válido y correcto decir que en _"España hablan español"._ Ese debate de _"no se dice español, se dice castellano"_ ya está muerto y cerrado, ambas acepciones son correctas.
Guadalajara is honestly by far one of my most favorite cities that I've traveled to in the world. It's super safe, people are very nice and welcoming, food is great, and there is plenty to do and see. I loved so much that I decided to live there for 5 months! It has everything that you want in a big city, but much cheaper in comparison to most American cities
Nahh is full of narcos
@@epiphonered6007 pero no se meten con nadie a menos que ande por esos rumbos
Love the well focused descriptive videos of these nice places by
this charming couple ! Guadalajara has a very nice weather,
fresh summers. The reality of the Places, in this case Mexico,
always is way more complex than any simplistic views from
the media news
I just started watching your videos and they're awesome, you guys are awesome!, I am from Morelia and I appreciate you both showing all the beautiful places of not just my city but of all my beautiful Mexico. cant wait to catch up with all the videos. sending love.
El problema es que cuando habla rápido es difícil de entender para un extranjero
I think anybody with any kind of intelligence are not going to rely on anyone to make the decision whether or not they’re going to move anywhere! They need to do the research themselves go down for a visit check it out and form their own opinions! I think you guys are fantastic! And you’re doing a great service to encourage people to come and explore and then they can form their own opinions, so no worries😎have fun🎉 i’ve been to Mexico many times and hopefully someday I will be able to go back and enjoy some good times🥂
Keep doing what you’re doing👍 you’re doing a great job! travel on... And be safe🙋♀️☮️
You'd be surprised how many people have told us they bought a house sight unseen or decided to stay long-term in a city without going there first. We appreciate (sorta) living spontaneously, but there is a certain level of ridiculousness to it. Big life decisions definitely need eyes-on-the-ground research unless someone can really roll with the punches. Lol Thanks for the well wishes and sweet comment Susan!
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You’re welcome! Hi there🙋♀️ and Absolutely you’re right! And I’m not surprised sadly😜
You guys are doing a great job! Again safety is my number one concern for you! As I’m sure you are aware of the situations there and in any country even our own😳
I love it there too, and someday I’ll be back but for now my time is not my own, taking care of dad 97 and Mom 86 so I have my priorities first, and fun later...🎉. I too will be looking for a place in Mexico and yes it will definitely be by the ocean somewhere that is my one promise to myself no matter where I end up! but I’m kind of a gypsy (Gitana) I like to explore so who knows Where I’ll end up?😎
Love your videos👍 take care of each other and enjoy your moments thanks for sharing a few of them with us🥂☮️.
Thanks for keeping it real. Been binge watching your channel trying to catch up. You two have great TV personalities. Thanks for all the hours you spend filming and editing.
Thanks for appreciating all the hard work we put into our videos. We do our best to make them as informative and entertaining as possible. :)
Love your videos 😊 !! Great job!
Gracias amigos gringos por visitar este gran pais del cual soy su mas alto ejemplo y emperador. Muchas gracias. Gobierno Federal.
Sí que fué federal tu gobierno.
🤣🤣🤣 ay peña
Se mama presi.
Lord Peña! What an honour. 😂
Te mmst jajaj
I have lived all my life here in GDL(23 years) and I can tell you that the population has grown a lot. The first sign is the traffic, the second one is the people from outside, I mean from others states(AKA Michoacán, Colima, Nayarit,Edo de México, CDMX), also this migration brought also more dirty streets. I remember the streets were cleaner before, 10-15 years ago. Still I love my city, and as engineer and as coder(programmer) I like the vibe of a techy city. Enjoy Guadalajara.
Same thing happened in cities in northern Mexico. A lot of immigration has changed the cities’ dynamics.
That is so true, the less thing that i want is to be disrespectfull with other mexicans and i´m not xenofobic at all, but the most mayority of people that come from other parts of Mexico don´t show any civic behavior, or they hate our city, that is what i´m thinking, i just can not get use to see the city this dirty, lot of homeless people in the streets, with all the garbage and dirty arround them, that is something as a tapatio i will never get used to, it seems our goberment will have to take harder actions in order to avoid this type of migration, after all this can colapse our city, there are no values at all on most people that is comming, and the city is loosing completely their personallity, due most of it´s inhabitants are no longer from here. And if we publically mentioned it we get attacked as well by the rest of the country, if they speak bad of our city and we tell them those problems are due to the big mayority of inmigrants, as well we get attacked, so as jaliscians we have to always be defending ourselfs from the rest of the country that still carried their primitive behaviors.
Baja California can relate to this.
Los de CDMX no vamos a GDL a vivir, es gente de todo el país la que viene acá. Por eso somos la ciudad mas poblada del continente.
Hey guys, it's great that you portray our city to the world. And I find it really cool that even with the "ugly" thing in the subject, positive aspects of Guadalajara keep showing up. Just like you, I love traveling and capting local aspects of every city I visit, and that's why I feel thrilled for what you do. If you ever need any help with anything please let me know. I would gladly assist you. Keep it up!
Thanks for seeing through to our true message. We love Mexico and especially Guadalajara! Thank you for your generous offer to help us out.
Some people might not like it, but I think it’s good that you guys are putting out videos discussing the good and bad sides of Mexico. I haven’t been to inner Mexico since 93 when I visited family there, and I do plan to visit next year so it’s good to know from the perspective of two Americans how the situation is over there. Good job to both of you, and Laska 👍🏽
You speak english too fast too. Please slow down. Your husband its k.
Gracias por las hermosas palabras sobre mi ciudad, Guadalajara!
Estela Sí, puede ser. Pero yo me quedo siempre con los aspectos positivos que mencionan, seguramente hay cosas negativas de las cuales podemos aprender y a su vez, mejorar.
Saludos!
Y porsupuesto que respeto tu opinión. :)
Would you say the people of Mexico are happier than the people in the states?
Eric Andrade Yes. The unhappy ones flee north to find better lives.
Yes we are! :)
Absolutely!
The guy at the salon asked if you’re planning on living there or what
Unhappier because crime is a big problem.
dont be discouraged, i think you are doing a great job learning the language and customs. youre in the best place to learn spanish. the best method to learn is to totally submerge yourself in the language and forget all your inhibitions. thats the way i learned english here in the u.s. love your videos theyre great, keep up the good work, and dont ever give up, youre doing great!!!!!!
You guys are mega cool! Thank you for the honesty. Sounds like a nice place. Im excited to check it out. Thank you for taking the time to make an informative video 🥳
On the topic of Glorieatas (granted he is describing the late 1940's)
From "On the Road"
- No mufflers are used on Mexican cars. Horns are batted with glee continual. ‘Whee!’ yelled Dean, ‘Look out!’ He staggered the car through the traffic and played with everybody. He drove like an Indian. He got on a circular glorietta drive on Reforma Boulevard and rolled around it with its eight spokes shooting cars at us from all directions, left, right, izquierda, dead ahead, and yelled and jumped with joy. ‘This is traffic I’ve always dreamed of! Everybody goes!’ An ambulance came balling through. American ambulances dart and weave through traffic with siren blowing; the great world-wide Fellahin Indian ambulances merely come through at eighty miles an hour in the city streets, and everybody just has to get out of the way and they don’t pause for anybody or any circumstances and fly straight through. We saw it reeling out of sight on skittering wheels in the breaking-up moil of dense downtown traffic. -
Jack Kerouac
You just have to learn to go with the flow. It is less chaotic now.
And that describes the energy of the whole book, a book that got people on the road for no purpose other than the journey.
I believe the hair stylist asked,"y ya ser van a quedar aqui a vivir o?" . He was asking if you were going to stay to live there and you answered perfectly. You sub-consciously understood him!! Pretty soon you will be speaking the same way without realizing it lol.
We can only hope!
Have so been enjoying your informational vids. So sorry to hear that you guys are receiving "hate" responses in the comments. Please know that there are many of us that find your vids delightful, funny, informative and comprehensive. By comprehensive, I mean that you are providing a well-rounded overview of the areas which you are exploring, and not just presenting a "glorified" expose. This is most appreciated! Your efforts are very much welcomed...and I've had, not just a few, really good laughs!
I've lived in Guadalajara in the past and it's an awesome city . The main problem is since it is such a great city with some of the best weather anywhere it's gotten too big !
That's where I'm leaving once I serve my contract for the US Army.
Guadalajara it’s a great city! I love it!
Hello travelers! I love their channel and everything they do in GDL. really continue like this on a good wave. I hope someday find them in gdl .. Greetings guys!
P.S. my english are not good😁
Hey guys just got done watching your video replay I would like to show you around and get to know more about what you guys do! Take care saludos !!
You answered correctly when you were with the hairdresser. He asked if you were planning to stay there to live! Just trust your instincts.
So true! They don't let us down :)
Yes. Talking is easier if you don't think about it.
That's why people bumble words when they're nervous, even in their native language.
No don't trust your instincts. Remember that "assuming" is the mother if all screw ups.
Guadalajara is gorgeous!! I hope to go visit soon!
No, don't do it I'm from guadalajara, I recommend Yucatan peninsula or Oaxaca I guarantee you are going to have a really good time
Riddick Fury stay along the north, west side (Zapopan, Chapultepec) nice awesome. It definitely does flood. Downtown mercados visit estudio Jalisco the energy is awesome. I love Guadalajara. Try the tortas aguadas, tacos de barbacoa, and street vender churros.
Riddick Fury I’m from Guadalajara and they already robbed me like 3 fucking times (in 5 months) I hope I just finish some things here and I’m able to go (which i hope cause of corona virus)
I think your videos are very well done and I feel you both of you as visitors living in Guadalajara got a very good eye and experience to show everyone! Even the bad stuff isn't that bad and you showed it very well described. I was born in Guadalajara and now I'm living in Vancouver Canada but watching your videos made me feel who lucky I was to be there and makes me feel visiting more often.
Thank you for this video. It is great to hear the great and not so great things about the places you talk about. Also my husband and I are in our 60's and I am disabled, so we enjoy hearing about the walkability of the cities and towns.
Thank you again for your great videos!!! How is Laska doing after her horrible vacation! We are dog people too so we total understand your frustration with a place like that!
Pat and Paul Meinke
Phoenix, AZ
I always thought that traffic in guadalajara was the worst... then we moved to Guatemala and I learned what traffic is really like haha.. I feel like i get everywhere so fast in guadalajara being such a large city. And then I come back to guate which is a really small city and it takes me an hour to get to a place that should be 15 minutes away.
Haven't you never visited Mexico City? Worst city ever xd
Voy a Guadalajara en noviembre para ver si me gusta para vivir. Vengo de California. Nunca e ido y no conozco a nadien ahí. Me gustaría conocer a gente buena onda y que me ayude a conocer la cuidad mas.
Eres americana o mexicana para ayudarte
Si últimamente ay muchísimo americano en Guadalajara joven y jubilado eso es bueno
Debes anticipar una especie de choke cultural, a pesar de que seas latino o Mexicano, sin embargo podría ser sumamente positivo. Yo viví en USA, California y Colorado por 36 años y me sorprendio gratamente Guadalajara. Con suerte vas a amar mucho de lo que experimentes. Yo quiero pasar aqui el resto de mi vida.
Did you say "nadien"? That's so great hahahaha American people making mistakes which are commonly among native spanish speakers who don't have education XD
Yo también me voy a ir de Minnesota y no conosco a nadie podríamos apoyarnos
We spent 8 days in Guadalajara last year. It is truly an amazing city. One of the prettiest places I’ve ever been. Recommend it highly!
Randomly came across this video , and I love it! Shoutout to my hometown ajijic ❤️
Hola, soy de Guadalajara, me encantan tus videos, si gustas te puedo dar un Tour por zonas pocos conocidas de Guadalajara
Un Tapatio! Que bien. Gracias Rodrigo!
Si llevala a la colonia jalisco...
Hola yo quiero ir a vivir pudieras orientarme por favor.
I Was there last Montt i love Guadalajara yea is confusing d streets but my family drives me arround
You’re a Plascencia! Me too! ❤️
I've been there....a few times...and loved it every time. It's so full of culture...just an amazing place.
You answered correctly at 3:40 he was asking you " are you planning on staying to live here or...?" so very good :D, your Spanish is much better than you think!
Best place to live...my Guadalajara !!! Regates, I'm your fan.
We would totally live in GDL again one day. :)
Unfortunatley Guadalajara has change a lot over the last 3 years, and we old tapatios (people from Guadalajara) resent it. Mainly because the massive migration of people mainly form Mexico City, but also form other parts of Mexico.
gabogtz1 and now gringos...
Muchísimos de Sinaloa y Michoacán.
Same in Las Vegas.
Flood of assholes from California trying to ruin it.
Los de CDMX no vamos a GDL vivir, solo de visita.
Guadalajara no es la única ciudad de México con alto índice de inmigración, y de hecho la gente de fuera somos los que hemos hecho de Guadalajara una gran ciudad, si fuera por los oriundos seguiría siendo un pueblo bicicletero, así que agradezcan eso
I live in Guadalajara and I really love it ❤ I think it has everything, tranquility (yes I've said tranquility), delicious food and nice people, the only thing I don't like the most it's the fact that the government doesn't make more cultural investment in the city :( and I thought you had have been in Mexico City but reading the comments I see that you haven't, so you MUST go there! Lots of stuff to do and beautiful architecture, but be prepared for a waaaay more noisey place. Thanks for these vlogs, I really like to see another's perspective of my city!
Hola Liliana
Me gustaría ir a vivir a Guadalajara
I grew up in guadalajara and you pretty much cover everything haha, when the roads flooded in rainy season I felt like I was driving a motor boat instead of a car XD
Honestly, say ugly said it's more like an invitation not to stay and an exageration.
Let me explain you, about traffic, like many metropolitan areas of the world over of 1 million of people (more of 5 million in this case) have rush hour, but there are many public works in process in different points of the city, mainly for the renovation of anillo periferico norte and sur, in addition to other avenues with complete urban interventions, but also the construction of the third line of the metro system that include an beautification of urban image along the way, and I think in few time it will be inaugurated, you can travel from Zapopan to Tlaquepaque.
I'm sure you never seen a roundabout before that is why it scares you, but you can feel calm not bug deal, where it is actually danger drive and walk it's in Lima Peru according to waze (worst traffic jams of Latin America)
Sometimes you see low pollution because the city it is high and complicate the dispersion of pollutants.
Some products are expensive yes....but for be imported.
And cut trees has become a sin, and in recent years the green areas have increased as in other cities, close to reach ONU HABITAT Standars.
Just clarifications of your concerns.
Actually Guadalajara municipality does met even over pass the ONU HABITAT standars.
Thanks for your thoughts on these things! We think cutting beautiful trees is a sin as well. They provide such great shade, air purification, and beauty to the city.
Try other cities such Mérida or Puebla
We can't wait to travel to both these cities!
What are the Internet speeds and costs in Mexico , can you get like 80mb/sec up and down in Mexico ? Working on internet in Mexico , how is it ? Traveling and getting internet , are there good places to go and work and get fast internet ? Do you have to get like multiple internet hotspot devices to travel
I am Mex/American born and raised in Oregon, who lived 18 years in Mexico, mostly Jalisco including much time in Chapala/Ajijic and Guadalajara areas. The situation with the trees as in any city with many trees is quite common. It is true that sometimes the construction is of lower quality (I remember a place where the sidewalk collapsed in Puerto Vallarta) but being raised in Oregon the problem is the trees not the sidewalk . I suppose you "big city slickers" do not realize that, but yes for a Mexican city Guadalajara has a lot of trees! I remember walking in Guadalajara and picking low-hanging oranges off a tree that hung over the sidewalk , not to mention the absolutely HUGE avocados that grow on the trees at the Hotel Haciendas Chapala they fall on the ground and go to waste (those that the cats do not eat) . There are many many trees there yes even in Guadalajara in comparison to cities in places like like California.
In my opinion I think Guadalajara don't have nothing agly
Segun se en guadalajara y morelia se habla el mejor español salvo una que otra palabrita de uso raro jaja
@@youngyankee13 puede ser, yo eso que dije lo escuche en un reportaje sobre fonetica y vocabulario, oye pero apoco a alguien de guadalajara o de morelia no se le entiende?
Justo soy de Morelia viviendo en Guadalajara; y a pesar de que en general hablamos parecido, en Guadalajara sí se habla con un ligero tono cantado... Además de que el uso de muchas palabras es completamente diferente a lo "normal" en el idioma (Y lo dice alguien que ha vivido en varios estados del país); ej: fajo en lugar de cinturón, churritos en lugar de chicharrones (frituras de harina), lonche en lugar de torta, etc. :P
@@diegoib8999 es lo mismo que dicen en el video en guadalahara hay mas vocabulario, salvo la palabra lonche, churritos y fajo existen en la real academia española que tu conoscas otros sinonimos no quiere decir que sea incorrectos
Aqui en guadalajara si nos dices fajo o cinturon o chicharrones como churritos ambos entendemos o torta o lonche.
@@Enriquerodri375 yo nunca dije que fuera incorrecto, sólo que se referían con una palabra diferente a esas cosas. Obviamente te entienden si no usas esas palabras para referirte a algo, pero sí detectarían inmediatamente que no eres de GDL
You 2 are great doing what you do , tonnes of info , thanks !!
I’m going on 3mths living here and I’m loving it I’m much happier here than in Texas ❤️
Have you felt it was unsafe at all Wendy?
@@JohnChatman not at all and they take it more serious about the coronavirus here than in Texas
do you live alone? or feel safe going places alone as a women bc thats just my main concern when moving anywhere new
i live in Guadalajara and I wish I could understand myself as well hahaha love you guys you're amazing!
Im from Guadalajara and I love it there’s no dark side no negative things there 😤
Andrea’s Channel Exactly!!!
Ah no mames, claro que sí hay cosas negativas. Como que parece que la lluvia nos apendeja a los tapatíos al manejar jajajaja
@@Dievanable no hay todo es perfecto incluso la lluvia y ese olor a tierra mojada, guadalajara es el alma de mexico , el silicon valley de Latinoamérica y la capital mundial del deporte (oficial), solo recuerda esto cultura y deporte de eso esta echo guadalajara
Let’s meet then ?
@@juanito3678 o como que nomas tenemos 2 líneas de tren ligero y la línea tres lleva mil años construyéndose cuando es una de las ciudades mas grandes e importantes de México. O como que siempre que llueve se inunda plaza del sol y varias partes de López Mateos
Guadalajara is a very Educated city…. The dialect there is just more formal, and when you combine the formal proper dialect with a faster pace, the outcome is just sometimes very hard to understand…. Especially if you’re not from the area…
I have 2 cousins in GDL that just finished with their Masters and my Uncle is a Professor at University of Guadalajara… also GDL is one of the more expensive cities to visit and live in…
GDL is compared to the Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, California. They even call Guadalajara “The Silicon Valley of Mexico”…. 😃
I live in Guadalajara, I agree with you. Thank you for your comments. Our governor takes our parks and forests for personal businesses & thoses, he becomes in mall, Apartments-Buildings and puts on the main avenues bike paths, so the speed of the city stops.
As far as the "Ugly side," you have to honest. I respect that. Be brave talking. It's not easy doing it in public. I should know. But it is worth it!! TRUST ME!!!
Thanks Ce!
Do you think with the significant expat community in Ajijic the locals there try to speak more slowly with less complex words and sentences?
Of course they do, just like in any major tourist area. The people of Guadalajara speak the purist Castilian of anywhere else in Mexico.
It’s possible! But we’ve also been to San Juan Cosalá and Chapala. It seems the same in both places. More understandable and easier conversations. Also, we’ve found after struggling to converse with someone in Guadalajara, we later learn they know English. And it’s not like we’re speaking so fluently that they know to speak freely. It’s just something about the speech pattern/words/who knows that is more difficult to understand in our experience.
William King ....am I understanding your comment correctly, that in Guadalajara, they speak the dialect that's spoken in Spain?
J Goodwin people in smaller towns and villages tend to speak slower.
jb hann- Castilian is not a dialect, it is one of four separate languages spoken in Spain (along with Catalan, Gailcian, and Euskarian). I'm saying that in Guadalajara, the language is less mixed with other dialects than many other places in Mexico. This may be nowadays only with the older people. I lived in GDL back in the 70s. I have also lived in Madrid and Palma de Mallorca where the resemblance to the way Tapatios speak is apparent (not the pronunciation, but structure and idiomatic expressions).
I've been considering going to live in Guadalajara for a while now, as my parents are from there and I spent my summers as a child & as a teen there, after watching your videos on Guadalajara really makes me give it a deeper thought. I love Guadalajara so much. Definitely a bit different but every time I go it just calls to me. Definitely liked watching videos of someone else enjoying what a great city it is. 💜
We absolutely love this city and would happily go back there. Hope you can make the right decision for you when it comes down to it! Thanks for watching Jo.
So I am planning to go to Guadalajara this month however I will be traveling alone. I am coming from the US. I have never been out of the country before.
Do you feel like I will be safe out there for five days?
I don’t know that much Spanish
I always felt very safe in Guadalajara, especially around Colonia Americana. Probably at least 50% of people in Guadalajara speak English so it won’t be too hard to get by without Spanish. We’d recommend brushing up on a few phrases if you can though. If you’re interested in learning the language, this is our favorite program: www.TangerineSpanish.com
your videos are honest and useful for those who want to travel.
Gong the bell squad.
#GongThatBell :)
once visited a nearby restaurant in guadalajara near fuente de minerva: four e.u.american girls with four mexican guys. a young boy was selling flowers and had to sell them all before he could leave, and the restaurant owner tried to chase him out. i got so upset that one of the mexican gentlemen went out to the boy and bought his every last flower, and parted them out among the other women in the restaurant.
How sweet is that! What a gift of love
The hairstylist said “ Y ya se van a quedar aquí a vivir o?” He just said it so quickly. It’s true. They tend to slur the words together. It’s normal.
Your answer was perfect.
My family is from Guadalajara and my husband’s family is from Guatemala. Guatemalans speak wayyy faster 🤣
Ha! My family is from Guatemala and my husband is from GDL. I love it there. One of my favorite places ever!
Holy shit. You walked through my neighborhood. I recognized all those crazy trees!
It's always nice to be completly honest about a popular place to travel, since this helps tourists grasp a better perspective of the city as is, like most big cities, there are definetly kneighborhoods you dont want to end at, and some that are pretty neat but are expensive as hell. I've been living here for over a year and a few months, and i love most of it, I just miss the super delicious cow meat of my Sonora, and it's respective flour tortillas!
Love your "dark side" videos. Thank you.
I was born in Guadalajara but I would never live there again. Too much traffic, too many people, so much noise and the petty crime like any other big city. I prefer to stay in Rosarito, Baja California or somewhere down south such as Mulege or Loreto, BC. By the way, good video!
good, don't go back mojadito!!!
@@JoseMartinez-kj1ii so the only way you make yourself feel better is to insult someone. That shows what a piece of shit, uneducated you are.
Hello I am an American, I lived/study in Guadalajara in year. BEST time of my live. I have nothing negative to report. Salutations.
ps If you do not like it there then leave instead if staying there and criticizing the place and its people. Also in Guadalajara are very white looking people. I actuated a girl from there who was a ginger.
Im from Guadalajara and I love your videos Guys !!!!! Congrats 🎉