I'm feeling something like this kit with 275/60R20's (33's on my factory wheels). No messing about with my crash bars, none of the trails in Coastal North Carolina will be a problem for 20 inch wheels.
That's happened to me after getting an alignment then going off-road. The shop didn't torque those bolts down to spec. They're supposed to be at 258 lb-ft.
Yeah, two of the A arm bolts rattled loose and we had to tighten them up on the trail. We realigned it once we got back to the shop and torqued them down. Haven't had any issues since then thankfully.
Thanks for the review! Trying to just get something soon, I threw the Falcon kit on there, but it's definitely not quite what I was looking for. I've been eying this kit as the upgrade, but am curious if another kit would fit better for a mix of overlanding and high speed gravel/fireroad driving in the 2.5" arena?
Glad you enjoyed the review! I'd recommend taking a look at the Fox 2.5s. Still not a "budget" suspension by any means, but I like the way they ride in the dirt and they tend to run a bit softer than the Kings do.
What didn't you like about the falcon set up? ...I am considering it. I like driving faster on back roads than the stock suspension is good with, and the falcon's adjustability for towing also appeals to me. I was hoping this review might mention something
The Raptor still wins in terms of stability and travel due to its purpose built suspension design and wider stance. BUT this King setup with a UCA does get you much closer to the feeling of a Raptor, and of course the price of this suspension is quite a bit cheaper than the price of a Raptor as a whole.
Fox has a greater range of adjustability to go between soft daily drive and offroad control. Icon's CDCV setups also affect the drive tremendously, we have a lot of feedback that King's adjusters dont make too much
I really interested in this particular build because it started with an STX. (I have a 2018) I really want to see what a truck without lockers, LSD's, or Torsen fronts will do off road. Could we see a real shake down of what the final build is capable of please?
Good looking suspension. Why do all these trucks have “crash bars” now? Assuming it’s to pass testing? I have a 2011, 2” level, stock wheels, narrow but full 35” tires and no rubbing after removing the front mud flaps. No crash bars of course, but it didn’t have them from the factory lol.
Yea the crash bars are because the small frontal overlap crash tested revealed bad results on trucks before this testing occurred. They fair much better with crash bars.
Best example is the 2015 F150 super cab vs crew cab. Same truck, super cab didn’t get crash bars that year but the crew cab did. The results were quite significant. Or compare 15’ and 16’ small overlap F150 super cab.
This is a very thorough review and should answer pretty much everybody's questions that are considering buying them great job stage 3 Motorsports.
Ordered this kit seven months ago for my 2020 f150 sxt 2wd still haven’t got them. But that video was awesome can’t wait.
Let's go a little bigger with your 2021 F150, proper 35s, uppers and lowers, King triples, some deavers and glass. LET'S GO...
I like the sound of all that! Although, there are higher powers above me that may need some convincing hahaha.
The most honest, thorough and helpful review of a product I've heard in a while.
I'm feeling something like this kit with 275/60R20's (33's on my factory wheels). No messing about with my crash bars, none of the trails in Coastal North Carolina will be a problem for 20 inch wheels.
Might want to check the lower control arm bolts. I could see a lot of movement around the 6:04 mark in the video.
That's happened to me after getting an alignment then going off-road. The shop didn't torque those bolts down to spec. They're supposed to be at 258 lb-ft.
Yeah, two of the A arm bolts rattled loose and we had to tighten them up on the trail. We realigned it once we got back to the shop and torqued them down. Haven't had any issues since then thankfully.
Bilstein 8112 review yet?
Excellent review. Appreciate the candor and thorough information.
Thanks Cord! Always glad to hear that the hard work is appreciated.
Love the old mine site you drive through. Trucks nice too.
How come these don't fit 2014 models? I thought that is when ford switched the lower control arms to fit them?
Always wondered what the performance difference off-road is with 2.5 vs 3.0 Kings.
This guys ripping with 2.5 makes me wonder if 3.0 would be overkill
Thanks for the review! Trying to just get something soon, I threw the Falcon kit on there, but it's definitely not quite what I was looking for.
I've been eying this kit as the upgrade, but am curious if another kit would fit better for a mix of overlanding and high speed gravel/fireroad driving in the 2.5" arena?
Glad you enjoyed the review! I'd recommend taking a look at the Fox 2.5s. Still not a "budget" suspension by any means, but I like the way they ride in the dirt and they tend to run a bit softer than the Kings do.
What didn't you like about the falcon set up? ...I am considering it. I like driving faster on back roads than the stock suspension is good with, and the falcon's adjustability for towing also appeals to me. I was hoping this review might mention something
Can you do a review of the RC vertex coilovers and shocks?
Nice
How do they compare to the new bilstein?
I did changed the height on mine and it did change how stiff the suspension was from stock.
6:15 mark, wow you can see the lca bolts moving inside of the slots. I wish you would do a whole video on that horrible design flaw that Ford made...
Called alignment cams you can get them anywhere for cheap
How do these 2.5 kits with a UCA upgrade on 10+ f150s compare to a stock gen 1 raptor
The Raptor still wins in terms of stability and travel due to its purpose built suspension design and wider stance. BUT this King setup with a UCA does get you much closer to the feeling of a Raptor, and of course the price of this suspension is quite a bit cheaper than the price of a Raptor as a whole.
Don't aftermarket control arms allow more droop travel?
I have been looking for a set of these, fronts and rears. 2021 F-150 Availability?
11 month back order
How do the Elkas compare to the King and fox?
Will this kit fit a 2020 regular cab f150 ?
Are these good for daily driving? I want
Coil overs that I can adjust the stiffness. I drive 4 hours a day. I want smooth sailing
Fox has a greater range of adjustability to go between soft daily drive and offroad control. Icon's CDCV setups also affect the drive tremendously, we have a lot of feedback that King's adjusters dont make too much
I’m torn between these or the icon stage 5, could I do the king coil overs with icon upper control arms?
yep!
Are the kings progressive or linear? Heard the icons are terrible for daily driving due to them being digressive.
Kings are linear pistons with a little bit of progressive valving curve towards high speed.
I really interested in this particular build because it started with an STX. (I have a 2018) I really want to see what a truck without lockers, LSD's, or Torsen fronts will do off road. Could we see a real shake down of what the final build is capable of please?
I just realized this truck as the FX4 package. This means it comes with a rear e-locker. None of what said makes any sense any more.
Location for this trail please?
2 bad all kings are back ordered for over half a year
Good looking suspension. Why do all these trucks have “crash bars” now? Assuming it’s to pass testing? I have a 2011, 2” level, stock wheels, narrow but full 35” tires and no rubbing after removing the front mud flaps. No crash bars of course, but it didn’t have them from the factory lol.
Yea the crash bars are because the small frontal overlap crash tested revealed bad results on trucks before this testing occurred. They fair much better with crash bars.
Best example is the 2015 F150 super cab vs crew cab. Same truck, super cab didn’t get crash bars that year but the crew cab did. The results were quite significant. Or compare 15’ and 16’ small overlap F150 super cab.
Why am i seeing Korean auto generated closed captioning?
Pretty sure that noise is your loose lower control arm hardware. That bolt is all over the place.
Did you crash the drone at 7:05 ?
No drone crashes yet, but we did have to pull hard right away from that bush which doesn't make for great looking footage.
that cheap looking roll bar wobbling as you go down the trail sure looks like it would hold the weight of the truck
These are the last things I want for my 2015 f150 5.0 with 2” lift on 33 12.50r20’s then I’ll be set. Not buying a new truck ever
I have been looking for a set of these, fronts and rears. 2021 F-150 Availability?
You'll want to give our team a call about ordering a set of these but it is a bit of a back order currently 623-434-5277