An IROC 3rd-Gen wasn't very much slower than a US-emissions 930. They were light, too, with an epic aftermarket. Given that chasing is always easier than leading, I don't question for a second that it could keep up in traffic. You'd probably struggle to shake a well-driven Miata in a GT3 in an urban setting. It's not exactly Laguna Seca. But the stupid Lincoln? Get that thing outta here.
@@JETZcorp The 930 had 300hp... And was light too. It was also the fastest production car of its era, also dubbed "Widow Maker" because of it's insane turbo switching. But in the middle of traffic yes, that could be an handicap, although... even given the notorious 80's Porsches cornering issues it still was much more capable than the Camaro at doing so, so, in spite of the Camaro "muscled" engine, the 911 would always beat it in any circumstance but a road block...
@joaobranco2164 The power varied from 260 to 330 depending on year and market. The US cars were usually significantly down from Euro cars because our emissions regs were much worse back then. People also forget that the Camaro and Corvette beat the 930 on the skid pad, and in the 5-60 test that takes turbo lag into account. But again, city streets are a bitch. A car that's 13 seconds faster on the Nürburgring is absolutely not getting away in the suburbs. On the track, yes. On the highway, yes. At 4am, absolutely. But on surface streets in daylight, it's very hard to get away from anything. If you were given a Huracan and tasked with ditching a Ford Explorer on 122nd Ave in Portland right now, my best guess is that the Explorer is keeping visual. I've talked to people who have tried gapping the cops with bikes. You pull a big old gap, and then literally anything happens, and they're right on you again, following through whatever holes you just found in the obstruction.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 Come on, it's a movie! I know, I know, we don't like to see cars abused, but it's done and there's nothing to do about it now. We got this awesome movie out of it anyways
@@homers5699 So???? That's 10-15 times the fun!!! I don't even think it's a real Turbo, judging by how slow as sh*t it was compared to the Lincoln and Camaro.
I love how different this car chase is. It’s cut in half by coming to a complete stop with that scene in the building with Charlie Sheen telling that story about the girl at the party.
How is an old Lincoln continental keeping pace with a Porsche 911?! I can believe a camaro can maybe keep pace, but not a Lincoln continental! though I am impressed that you can drift a continental!!
@@abc33944 Yeah. They tried to sell the movie to american audience. Same thing why 1st Fast and Furious suddenly had a Dodge Charcer in the end. They even admitted it with F&F.
8:05 THIS IS WHERE THIS COMES FROM I had a game called Stuntman on the PS2 where the intro showed a bunch of car stunts and i never knew where this one was from!
yeah I was wondering about that too. No cgi and the flipped and rolled a car with glass ttops through a trailer, deserving an oscar by today's standards.
@@paul-ie6wi Banging soundtrack but awful film. Nick love generally makes crap but the business and football factory are guilty pleasures. Easy watching.
Wow thanks for posting this! I'd forgotten all about this film, but now I remember loving it as a kid !! Great movie Super cool ! Must watch it again !
Watched this for the 1st time the other night. I can't believe I slept on this one and it slipped me by. What a top.."less-glossy-version" of Fast & Furious pt.1. And Randy Quaid & Charlie Sheen were reunited for this one the year after "The Wraith". And a young "D.B. Sweeney"..(who ironically was 4 yrs younger than "Sheen") in this movie....
That Lincoln was my favorite car Big beautiful luxury car went you a bad guy You drive a bad ass car make you A boss you stand out of the rest Man with power drive big car in class and a car with power. ill always love Lincoln cars And cadillac too
Great film got it classic cars even had one ,this stunt won an industry award at the time plus camera angles are beautiful can see what is happening unlike modern films that go all blurry when the action starts
When this movie came out, Charlie was starting to establish himself as a boss and charmer after his role in Platoon. D.B. Sweeney on the other hand had been in a soap opera movie about the Vietnam war as a man serving in the honor guard wanting to be an officer and fight in Vietnam. The latter was too natural and common of a man to ever make it to anything close to an A-lister or Brat Pack. The Cutting Edge was his only starring role, ever.
So Angelina Jolie versus Jennifer Aniston. Refined and exotic versus natural and common. Movies require both types of characters. Actually, the contrast between them creates much of the dramatic tension in this film.
@@alienlizardqueen8748 I agree. I remember one scene in the movie he’s having breakfast with Charlie Sheen and his sister and Sheen looks at him briefly and knows he’s troubled and probably already suspects he’s an undercover cop.
Great car chase scene, although kinda silly that these two shitcans would keep up with the Porsche. These 911 turbos are quick and good even for today's standards, let alone compared to cars of that era.
I don't really give a shit about the movie and understand people's connection to it, but I found it so hard to watch as a car person even as a kid. You have a 70s land yacht which couldnt turn or accelerate and a heavy 80s Camaro with a stifled emissions engine that couldn't take a corner for the life of it. And the car that they have zero issues keeping up with is one of the best cornering and fastest cars of that time. As a kid, my takeaway at the time was that the driver sucked lol.
A 3rd-gen Camaro isn't as heavy as you think. Underpowered, yes, but only 300lbs more than a Porsche 930. The Camaro was big and plastic, the Porsche was small but made of bank vaults. It's also worth noting that US-market 930s were a cool 50hp down from the Euro models, because they had to deal with the same emissions bullshit as everyone else. It's only a 260hp car. Given that the Porsche had to bulldoze through traffic and the Camaro just had to follow, I think it works. The Porsche would leave if they were alone on a curvy road, but it's REALLY hard to get away from someone in an urban environment. The stupid Lincoln though? That was a huge swing and a miss. You can really tell that it drives like a "movie car" with the handbrake turns etc.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 A movie car would be a car that's been designed for movie stunts. Think of the cars used to film modern Fast and Furious movies. It may have a vintage Charger shell or whatever, but underneath it's got a modern engine, modern suspension, hydraulic handbrake, sometimes AWD, and a full cage to protect the stunt drivers. They don't always do all of that, and many times a movie car will be the real car it's supposed to be, but modified for the stunts. I suppose"stunt car" would be a better term, because in movie making they also typically have a "hero car", which is the one meant to look correct, so it'll lack the stunt equipment and be used for closer shots and interactions with the actors.
@@JETZcorpalso, let's not forget that the 930 Turbo's engine was completely dead until it hit boost at high RPMs. And when you hit boost you already have to shift into the next gear. It was also ridiculously long geared so a low-medium speed chase means that it was almost constantly outside boost
Funny how they've tried so hard not to make US cars of that era looks that bad. That Camaro probably had around 160 HP and suspension from 1800's coaches. And that shitbox Lincoln had like 140HP and AT. Kadett GSi would beat the crap out of these shitboxes.
Funny how you cannot take in consideration its a public road, with traffic and bumps, it's not the race track cup cake, stay at home mad Honda v-tec kid.
Miami Vice's Dick Wolf and Ron Howard worked on this film and it seems this chase scene has some inspiration to the end scene in film The driver 1978 where lead chase vehicle was a silver trans am but this is classic. Charlie Sheen was perfect for the role too.
8:08 - what sort of weird large single exhaust pipe is on that Camaro? What that GM's failure of a small block turbo engine? Charlie Sheen looks like a vampire in this movie.
The most impressive thing in all of this is the film makers managing to make it look like these hideous crappy US cars would even remotely keep up with a Porsche 911! In reality at the very first corner the 911 would disappear, or any straight for that matter haha!
For the people defending the Iroc Camaro, they were 175 hp and did the quarter mile in the high 16's. The 930 turbo did it in the 12's. Go figure. Exotic vs mass produced domestic junk
The 175 hp Camaro and a huge land yacht chasing a 930 turbo. That really isn’t much of a contest.
Shouldn't be, right?
At least get the Lincoln outta the way, it could of been a souped 350 in the Camaro!
An IROC 3rd-Gen wasn't very much slower than a US-emissions 930. They were light, too, with an epic aftermarket. Given that chasing is always easier than leading, I don't question for a second that it could keep up in traffic. You'd probably struggle to shake a well-driven Miata in a GT3 in an urban setting. It's not exactly Laguna Seca.
But the stupid Lincoln? Get that thing outta here.
@@JETZcorp The 930 had 300hp... And was light too. It was also the fastest production car of its era, also dubbed "Widow Maker" because of it's insane turbo switching. But in the middle of traffic yes, that could be an handicap, although... even given the notorious 80's Porsches cornering issues it still was much more capable than the Camaro at doing so, so, in spite of the Camaro "muscled" engine, the 911 would always beat it in any circumstance but a road block...
@joaobranco2164 The power varied from 260 to 330 depending on year and market. The US cars were usually significantly down from Euro cars because our emissions regs were much worse back then. People also forget that the Camaro and Corvette beat the 930 on the skid pad, and in the 5-60 test that takes turbo lag into account.
But again, city streets are a bitch. A car that's 13 seconds faster on the Nürburgring is absolutely not getting away in the suburbs. On the track, yes. On the highway, yes. At 4am, absolutely. But on surface streets in daylight, it's very hard to get away from anything. If you were given a Huracan and tasked with ditching a Ford Explorer on 122nd Ave in Portland right now, my best guess is that the Explorer is keeping visual. I've talked to people who have tried gapping the cops with bikes. You pull a big old gap, and then literally anything happens, and they're right on you again, following through whatever holes you just found in the obstruction.
Real world, you're not catching that 930 Turbo in some domestic boats, not even that pathetic Camaro
It's just a movie
Then how TF was the Camaro able to keep up with that POS for so long???
The hell it's true
@@santiagodieghi8269 I would like to see some proof with a drag race.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 it was tuned by pros to be a sleeper. Use your imagination
Dude had perfect hair in his 20s. Bad ass cars and fame in the decade of the 80s. Incredible.
and leather jackets
It is in Hollywood :d
Classic car chases are so exciting. You always knew they're gonna bang these cars up.
Neither the Lincoln nor the Camaro deserved to get abused like that.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 Come on, it's a movie! I know, I know, we don't like to see cars abused, but it's done and there's nothing to do about it now. We got this awesome movie out of it anyways
@@arvid3734 If anything, that rotten Porsche should've gotten beaten up, instead!!!
@@michaelmeliambro5117 u can buy 10-15 camaros with that rotten 930 turbo
@@homers5699 So???? That's 10-15 times the fun!!! I don't even think it's a real Turbo, judging by how slow as sh*t it was compared to the Lincoln and Camaro.
One of the coolest films back in the days ... still is to me. Charlie Sheen ... being a gangster with class.
I love how different this car chase is. It’s cut in half by coming to a complete stop with that scene in the building with Charlie Sheen telling that story about the girl at the party.
Beats any fast n furious car chase this filmed in real time no cgi
I was 12 when I watched this and now showing it to my 13 year old son.
Collecting matchbox. Time flies
How is an old Lincoln continental keeping pace with a Porsche 911?! I can believe a camaro can maybe keep pace, but not a Lincoln continental! though I am impressed that you can drift a continental!!
Yah the Lincoln was an odd choice
@@maryellenrieger1874 this is america baby!!!!
@@abc33944 Yeah. They tried to sell the movie to american audience.
Same thing why 1st Fast and Furious suddenly had a Dodge Charcer in the end. They even admitted it with F&F.
LOL Triggered that even a 2-ton Lincoln can keep pace with your precious Nazi-mobile???
meaning the porsche driver was a lousy cunt..
One of my favorite movies.
“Italian trash…besides, I only steal Porsches.”
This scene taught me to never buy a convertible.
💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This movie was fast and furious before fast and furious.
Na, this was No man's land. You're confused
@@davconelectric I know that. I was just saying that Fast and Furious ripped this movie off.
@@thelostandforgotten9965 which part?
This movie also had a great influence on Point Break I reckon
@@johnhall8564 the surfing part?
This is definitely 1 of my favourite movies
8:05 THIS IS WHERE THIS COMES FROM
I had a game called Stuntman on the PS2 where the intro showed a bunch of car stunts and i never knew where this one was from!
Loved this movie when I was a kid.
I agree 👍🏻🚗
I saw this film in 1991. I never forgot it. And it even inspired The Fast and the Furious.
yeah I was wondering about that too. No cgi and the flipped and rolled a car with glass ttops through a trailer, deserving an oscar by today's standards.
they even stole a few lines the one about "going native" ripped
Nothing like a slow speed "chase". I'm sure Porsche were delighted to see, their flagship model's performance being matched by those cars.
Underrated 80s movie. Had a nice Miami Vibe darkness about it. A better sound track could have made it a cult classic like to live and die in LA.
They really did a bad job on this soundtrack.
@@studinthemaking Not really .... Dont tell me by Blancmange in the club scene is a work of genius
I don't know, I kind of like the odd choices for the soundtrack, gives it an 80s realism.
If you want a good soundtrack you have to check out the film “the business” every tune in that is a banger !!
@@paul-ie6wi Banging soundtrack but awful film. Nick love generally makes crap but the business and football factory are guilty pleasures. Easy watching.
That's how I always dress up my Ruf CTR in Gran Turismo. Silver with gold BBS wheels. It's because of this film. ✌🏻🇺🇸
Wow thanks for posting this!
I'd forgotten all about this film, but now I remember loving it as a kid !! Great movie Super cool ! Must watch it again !
I was 19 when this movie came out. I loved Charlie Sheen’s character. His charisma was awesome.
Watched this for the 1st time the other night. I can't believe I slept on this one and it slipped me by. What a top.."less-glossy-version" of Fast & Furious pt.1. And Randy Quaid & Charlie Sheen were reunited for this one the year after "The Wraith". And a young "D.B. Sweeney"..(who ironically was 4 yrs younger than "Sheen") in this movie....
Do you know where I can watch this film?
@@johnavila3245 I had to get an imported German Blu Ray release, honestly was well worth it.
Is thier any chance that production house has on thier OTT platform
I still have this movie on dvd 👍👍
When you repo a 911 from the Mafia
That would´ve been cool plot.
Instead other guys chase them because other guys are "other Porche robbers", plot that don´t make any sense.
All about that Lincoln Mark V 😍
Same. Would gladly take that big bruiser over the Porsche any day of the week.
Big Bag Beautiful Beast! Wasn't outrunning that Monster Big Block either... :D
That Lincoln was my favorite car
Big beautiful luxury car went you a bad guy
You drive a bad ass car make you
A boss you stand out of the rest
Man with power drive big car in class and a car with power. ill always love Lincoln cars
And cadillac too
Looks like a speedboat being chased by a cruise liner... lol 🤣
4:33 Sheen's look's priceless!
Great film got it classic cars even had one ,this stunt won an industry award at the time plus camera angles are beautiful can see what is happening unlike modern films that go all blurry when the action starts
I love this movie! I would religiously watch it back in the day, those fog lights are toast! Along with that 1984 Z28 and 77 Lincoln 😆
So good!!
Wow! The picture looks like it was filmed today. I'm so used to seeing these films on vhs. LOL!
Man.....as an old soul person for 1987, I can't WAIT to watch this movie tomorrow morning.
This movie was the original fast & furious... no CGI here
Wow.Great scene and good driving in this movie!I like it!
0:02 does anyone know the manufacture of the mirrors in the 930 turbo? cuz i do really think they look very nice compared to the stock ones
No third gen Camaro could ever in its best day stay with a 911 Turdo!
Charlie was amazing in this film
anyone know where i can watch this movie? please I've been searching for weeks
So have I
Amazon prime
It's available to rent from xfinity, or at least it was last time I checked. Google says you can get it on Vudu.
Buy it on blue ray
Tubi has it for free
Them two bangers chasing are a joke, the Porsche could pull of in 2nd gear ⚙️ and still leave them pieces of shit behind.
Haha
Than how come the Camaro was right behind the Neo-Nazi turd the whole time????
@@michaelmeliambro5117 in real life that’s not happening. Trust
@@jaywalkercrew4446 You wanna bet???
@@michaelmeliambro5117 bet what, wake up..you know jack shit about cars, I’ve worked in the motor vehicle industry for over 20 years.
One of the all time great car movies. Cheese and all. Love it.
A love that camaro
Dam...lol why buy Porsche when a Lincoln can do the same performance. Lol
LOL Question of the Century!!
1:59
What now?
Buckle Up...
When this movie came out, Charlie was starting to establish himself as a boss and charmer after his role in Platoon. D.B. Sweeney on the other hand had been in a soap opera movie about the Vietnam war as a man serving in the honor guard wanting to be an officer and fight in Vietnam. The latter was too natural and common of a man to ever make it to anything close to an A-lister or Brat Pack. The Cutting Edge was his only starring role, ever.
So Angelina Jolie versus Jennifer Aniston. Refined and exotic versus natural and common. Movies require both types of characters. Actually, the contrast between them creates much of the dramatic tension in this film.
@@alienlizardqueen8748 I agree. I remember one scene in the movie he’s having breakfast with Charlie Sheen and his sister and Sheen looks at him briefly and knows he’s troubled and probably already suspects he’s an undercover cop.
Great car chase scene, although kinda silly that these two shitcans would keep up with the Porsche. These 911 turbos are quick and good even for today's standards, let alone compared to cars of that era.
90% of the movie was ripped of by F&F screenwriters.
È impossibile che dei dinosauri di auto americane riescano a stare dietro ad una porsche.
If you notice when they enter the warehouse the drivers rear window is blown out, then they leave the warehouse they shoot out the same window
It's only a Porsche.
Nothing worth worrying about.
One of the greatest Porsches ever.
This is Great , i love the 911
Why????? How??????
I can only think of Buick grand national of domestic cars that
might be suitable for the chase
CLASSIC CARS ARE SO EXCITING
I don't really give a shit about the movie and understand people's connection to it, but I found it so hard to watch as a car person even as a kid. You have a 70s land yacht which couldnt turn or accelerate and a heavy 80s Camaro with a stifled emissions engine that couldn't take a corner for the life of it. And the car that they have zero issues keeping up with is one of the best cornering and fastest cars of that time. As a kid, my takeaway at the time was that the driver sucked lol.
.......Or, it could just be they had the wrong car; LOL.
A 3rd-gen Camaro isn't as heavy as you think. Underpowered, yes, but only 300lbs more than a Porsche 930. The Camaro was big and plastic, the Porsche was small but made of bank vaults. It's also worth noting that US-market 930s were a cool 50hp down from the Euro models, because they had to deal with the same emissions bullshit as everyone else. It's only a 260hp car. Given that the Porsche had to bulldoze through traffic and the Camaro just had to follow, I think it works. The Porsche would leave if they were alone on a curvy road, but it's REALLY hard to get away from someone in an urban environment.
The stupid Lincoln though? That was a huge swing and a miss. You can really tell that it drives like a "movie car" with the handbrake turns etc.
@@JETZcorp What do you mean "like a movie car???"
@@michaelmeliambro5117 A movie car would be a car that's been designed for movie stunts. Think of the cars used to film modern Fast and Furious movies. It may have a vintage Charger shell or whatever, but underneath it's got a modern engine, modern suspension, hydraulic handbrake, sometimes AWD, and a full cage to protect the stunt drivers. They don't always do all of that, and many times a movie car will be the real car it's supposed to be, but modified for the stunts. I suppose"stunt car" would be a better term, because in movie making they also typically have a "hero car", which is the one meant to look correct, so it'll lack the stunt equipment and be used for closer shots and interactions with the actors.
@@JETZcorpalso, let's not forget that the 930 Turbo's engine was completely dead until it hit boost at high RPMs. And when you hit boost you already have to shift into the next gear. It was also ridiculously long geared so a low-medium speed chase means that it was almost constantly outside boost
1 of the best unknown films ever made, utter masterpiece
Half the people now would say what’s that thing he put in the dash at the start
Hahahah had to go back to see what you meant ! 😂😂 getting old man !
カマロが全損してもったいないけど
ポルシェが主役だから仕方ない！
Je l'ai en DVD ce film, c'est 260 chrono. Un très bon film avec Charlie Sheen. Ils ne volent que des Porsche.
This is where they came up with the game driver
I know that industrial area is in Huntington Park/Vernon
I’m watching this and I’m from Boyle Heights
@@Cobblepot101 that's wassup
F*** that Porsche is gorgeous
Rogan sent me.
Ain't no way in hell a crappy lincoln and a basic ass camero keeping pace with a 911 turbo porche LMAO
This movie story line similar to fast and the furious. Even though this movie is way older than FAF
Let’s get this movie on iTunes !
Oh common. Its Porsche vs Camero?
Camaro it is!!! Though preferably the IROC-Z model.
This looks awesome
Funny how they've tried so hard not to make US cars of that era looks that bad.
That Camaro probably had around 160 HP and suspension from 1800's coaches.
And that shitbox Lincoln had like 140HP and AT. Kadett GSi would beat the crap out of these shitboxes.
Funny how you cannot take in consideration its a public road, with traffic and bumps, it's not the race track cup cake, stay at home mad Honda v-tec kid.
Miami Vice's Dick Wolf and Ron Howard worked on this film and it seems this chase scene has some inspiration to the end scene in film The driver 1978 where lead chase vehicle was a silver trans am but this is classic. Charlie Sheen was perfect for the role too.
And Brad Pitt's in it too. Look close at the waiter when they're at the fancy restaurant.
8:08 - what sort of weird large single exhaust pipe is on that Camaro? What that GM's failure of a small block turbo engine? Charlie Sheen looks like a vampire in this movie.
DB Sweeny. I only seen him in the cutting edge. Charlie looks young... I feel old now..
3:07 would've been more realistic if they used that Corvette
Seach this is movie?
What a film!!
Can anyone tell me more movies about this type of movies? I loved this one, too bad it was the end😅
not a chance they would even come close to catching up to that Porsche
This is a man's movie. And I love it
Well Porsche would smoke those family cars in the dust it is a racetrack car basically...
the people that are driving those family cars are also car thieves, chances are their cars aren't stock
Chances are this is a movie, and and a car chase scene doesn't work if your 87' 930 Turbo pulls bus lengths on the bad guys inside of 30 seconds.
I'm surprised that 6 cyl Camaro with single exhaust could hang with that turbo Porsche lol. Only in Hollywood
@@CS-Loc *1975 930 Turbo
@@Panzer_Runner That's an intercooled car. Not a 1975. 75's had a different whale tail and were non-intercooled.
Better than fast and furious
The land yacht gets smashed and then somehow manages to stay on the 930's tail. Then a bus flips over!
The most impressive thing in all of this is the film makers managing to make it look like these hideous crappy US cars would even remotely keep up with a Porsche 911! In reality at the very first corner the 911 would disappear, or any straight for that matter haha!
Neste vídeo,Charlie Sheen estava com saúde e hoje vemos o estrago que a droga fez.Uma pena!
When you stop the footage and look at the driver's faces....hollywood really picks some close look-alikes.
Unless the cars were modded, there's no way those two domestics are competing with a Porsche
If you notice, the ZR1 takes frontal damage for no reason.
zr1.. porsche 964 beat
People underestimate the u turn
One that can’t be matched
With a quick right
Then left
You’re gone
The cars are cool but the movie is pretty horrible.
Love the Porsche
Then you must be crazy about Nazism.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 just the Porsche
@@maxinsgrm6249 The Beetle, developed by Ferdinand Porsche, was created at the request of Hitler himself. THINK about that.
@@michaelmeliambro5117 THIS BACK TO YOU.. Then you must be crazy about Nazism
cause I really don't care.... It's just Porsche ... only the cars
@@maxinsgrm6249 If Hitler had owned a Porsche, would you care then????
Who knew a ‘77 Lincoln could match a 911 for handling, acceleration, and top end. Don’t make em like that anymore 🤣
For the people defending the Iroc Camaro, they were 175 hp and did the quarter mile in the high 16's. The 930 turbo did it in the 12's. Go figure. Exotic vs mass produced domestic junk
I remember this, and thats a very young Charlie sheen ,whoooaaa lol
Charlie Sheen Didn't get the Oscar for 4:33
check out the car chase scene from THE SEVEN UPS its the best in the industry AGAINST ALL ODDS is #2
Is it possible to see this film?
@@oddnethomassen8784 the chase scenes are on here. the dvd/blu-ray is out there
The Corvette from that period would've been a better choice than the Camaro.
The 1989 Iroc Z with V-8 and 5.7 liter yea would have eaten that 930 turbo
And a 911 turbo from same time ;-)
What are you smoking? No Iroc or Corvette, whatever would keep up with a Porsche 930. Those things are extremely quick
The world’s slowest 930 Turbo
When you became director?
Love this movie
I love those Dodge starters dubbed in whenever they start a vehicle on television and movies. lol!
I hope that was a prison bus.
And Dominic Toretto gets out bus prison.
The original FAST&FURIOS 😉
The Lincoln ate that dodges lunch