Former medic here. In the years I practiced, I've only ever seen a handful of DNRs. Most family members just scream at you they have a DNR, but fail to present it. If you don't see the official stamped paper, it doesn't exist. I'm not going to be an accomplice in your murder. Edit: Keep a list of your allergies, important medical conditions (ask your doctor), and a list of your medications together in multiple places, and keep your medications together and in an obvious or visible location. Your wallet/purse, and your fridge are great places, also ask your local EMS/Fire/Police. This is invaluable information for first responders, and more importantly, the doctors at the hospital. Once had a patient who made business cards. DNRs are tricky, but try and have a plan.
@CoryPchajek EMT here, I always advise people put their DNR (as well as any important medical docs you might have) on their fridge. If I'm coming into a patient's house and no one else is home, that's the first place I'm looking.
@@Kaimax61 Why? because he doesn't want to get charged with murder? You have no idea if those other family members are telling the truth or just trying to get an inheritance and/or lawsuit. It's literally the law that a DNR is only valid if it is filled out correctly and signed, you have no idea until you see it. Even honest mistakes happen, some people don't want the ET tube but are okay with chest compressions, family may not be aware of exactly what it says. Also, another point that needs to be made is DNRs can be INSTANTLY INVALIDATED if the patient changes their mind and has the capacity to do so (barring someone else having power of attorney over their healthcare decisions that is in effect regardless of capacity). So in the example provided in this video, it sounded like the patient freaked out because she couldn't breath and was indicating she did want full care (totally understandable), the doctors cannot be like "fuck off lady you signed the paperwork" and watch her die
I was an EMT for years. When your heart stops, those few seconds after your heart stops are crucial. Because of that, we were always instructed to immediately start CPR on a patient rather than spend the time looking on their person for a DNR. Because in the event that they’re not a DNR, then those few seconds could mean the difference between life and death. In a hospital setting, it’s different because they have the patient’s medical records and know if someone is DNR or not but it’s very difficult in first response.
@@Serai3 not a bad idea but in California, we were also told not to abide by tattoos because they’re not legal documents. If someone has a “DNR” tattoo but you’re not a DNR in your medical records then that first responder is directly liable for your death. In California, the best thing would be to have an EMSA approved DNR bracelet or medallion always on your wrist and visible. Then I guess you could have “DNR: check bracelet” tattooed on your chest lol.
Some EMT's are getting hate in these comments but most understand you folk are in a crisis situation working with little to no information. You gotta do what you can to save the person until and unless the DNR is waved in your face. Another comment asked about a tattoo. Does that count or not? I mean it's not a legal document and just "Do Not Resuscitate" certainly lacks specificity. But it's also a giant tattoo and I can't see how that happens without specific intent. What would you do as an EMT if you ran into that?
On DNR’s- I took care of my father for 20+ years and he had a DNR for about half of that. We knew his time was limited (they told us he had a couple weeks at most and he lived 25 more years) so we wrote it up so he wouldn’t have to suffer more than he needed to. We were lucky. The staff at his hospitals he was at the last 2 years were amazing and always asked what we did and didn’t want. So they can work out wonderfully. I was the only one with him when he did pass, and it was peaceful and exactly what my dad wanted. It’s been 4 1/2 years. Miss you dad. ❤
My mom had a DNR, but it wasn't on file with the hospital because she was in general good health. I knew about a the DNR because she discussed it with me. She had an accident and it took EMTs 8 minutes to get her heart restarted. Later, at the hospital, I told them about her wishes, but they refused to turn off the ventilator. It took us three days and an angle grinder before we found the paperwork in her safe we didn't know she had, three days she was kept in a braindead limbo, but if I hadn't known to look, it would have probably taken a court order. Please, please, please, talk to your loved ones about such things, and make sure someone knows how to find these documents.
Just want to say, whilst Phil threw out all those facts about CPR and its long term effects and viability, PLEASE do not hesitate to perform CPR in a situation where someone is not breathing!
My mom had a terminal illness (though it was well managed), & also signed DNR’s. She feared being hooked up to machines being kept alive when nothing was left of her inside her body. She had an attack like she’d had before & while in the ambulance her heart stopped. By the time they got it started again, it was to late, she was alive but brain dead. I don’t know how DNR’s are supposed to be known by EMT’s, like I didn’t know this time was any different than previous episodes so I didn’t think to tell them. I didn’t even know that’s something I’d need to tell them. Like when you’re in a situation where a persons heart stops, you can’t take time to check if they have a DNR bc time is of the essence. So I feel like there are some situations where the EMT’s or Drs won’t know. Like I once heard of a guy who tattooed his DNR order on his chest & at the time I thought that was wild, but now I kind of get it. Anyways it just sucked, my mom was on machines & we had to make the decision to pull the plus. The thing they don’t tell you and is different than medical dramas, is it’s not fast. It took days for mama to pass away. I don’t blame the EMT’s but having to make that decision when she just looked like she was asleep, that was pretty traumatic.
Just so you know, if you or someone you know wanted DNR and thought of tattooing it on them - doctors and paramedics legally cannot treat this as an actual binding DNR. You need paperwork present for it to be valid. In some states you can have a necklace or a bracelet that is given to you with the DNR paperwork, but even that isn't foolproof, so having papers or having a close person that knows where they are is the only sure option.
@@deirenne The DNR discussion did make me wonder if some kind of medical ID bracelet existed for it, I think they're reasonably common for various invisible illnesses that can result in unconsciousness or inability to properly communicate so it would make sense to for DNRs to be communicated to healthcare workers in a similar way. I guess the only issue is many people may not bother wearing them if they hadn't had a serious recent health scare but still seems like the best option as it's probably the only thing that can be checked quickly enough in these kind of scenarios, anything else would likely risk people without DNRs dying due to checks taking too long. Of course it doesn't do anything to solve the issue of healthcare workers not knowing exactly what treatment is or isn't acceptable under a DNR.
I mean like, if you have someone who doesn’t wanna be saved, just don’t call an ambulance till AFTER they’re gone. Cause there’s Not much else you can do. Death is death man. It’s painful, it’s scary & 90% of the time it’s slow. There’s no getting around that. Having a DNR won’t sidestep the process of dying. If you don’t wanna come back, well then get comfy wherever you’re staying cause I’m not gonna call anyone to move you till you got what you want out of life 🤷🏽
I'm sure every politician takes money from similar means that superficially looks fine but dirty as fuck beneath the surface. Why the hell is this acceptable in the first place? Seems like legal bribery in the first place.
@@snes06 yep, there's so many stories of politicians doing dodgy stuff due to gifts and money even when they have rules about declaring it. It's clear none of the current regulations actually stop these forms of legal bribery taking place and the fact that they just get to decide it's fine rather than an objective third party is utterly ludicrous, in any other job the things they do would definitely lead to being fired and very likely sent straight to prison.
Phillip, PLEASE on your next news cover the devastation Helene causes in Appalachia. Places like Erwin TN, Mountain City TN, Ashville, NC and Chimney Rock. The news isn't showing how bad it is or the lack of government help. The community is coming together though and that should be shared. Please everyone like this to boost it for him. It's so important for us appalachians.
For-profit AI scares the crap outta me... Where man is concerned, greed and corruption ruins people's lives as they become collateral damage. The race for A.I. and profits will prevent controlling AI. growth to protect humanity.
I was waiting for this to happen, Sam Altman was on the Trevor Noah podcast talking about how it’s “not about the money” and how money will change things and priorities of open AI 😂😂😂 It’s not even six months since and here we are.
@@alexandrarose149 I love Trevor Noah! And yes, there have been many guests in the tech industries who have been sounding the alarm bells about how if there are no regulations world-wide, it leaves it open for companies to keep experimenting, and then others try to outdo the others, spiraling out of control. All it takes is one rogue intelligent loosened upon the world.
@@shdow0713 Sure but if they are not explicitly saying "Help, she cant breath, and she has a DNR so is there anything you can do to comfort her?" (which btw there isn't asphyxiation is a horrific mental torture as well), because what else could "help her, she can't breath" while pointing at someone whose visibly distressed and not breathing mean?
Wow finally a controversy I can weigh in on! I have a PhD in English and ethnic studies. The power of Heathcliff stems from the fact that he is racially unreadable - he is threatening as potentially nonwhite, but he has enormous sex appeal from the way he stands out from everyone. He has frequently been described as the sexiest man in English literature. I’m not sure I love the casting because this choice doesn’t bring that mystery. Like when I think of Heathcliff, I think of young Oscar Isaac - you can’t quite place what his roots are. There are these competing ideas of Heathcliff being Indian/Middle Eastern/Roma or even black (because he was found on the streets of Liverpool, which was up to its eyeballs in the slave trade). I think it’s a really interesting debate as someone who is married to a Middle Eastern man. On the one hand, MENA people are considered white by the US census, and many of them pass as white. My husband is very dark, and he definitely has faced discrimination. But what I’m trying to say is that it’s a part of the world that is kind of hard to generalize racially. I would think that it’s difficult to cast Heathcliff along a certain ethnicity because the clues in the novel are all over the place, perhaps because Brontë herself was ignorant about ethnicity and geography, or perhaps merely because she wanted to create intrigue. You didn’t ask, but if we really care about looks, Margo Robbie is a terrible choice for Cathy, who has long dark hair and dark eyes. To me there is a kind of symmetry between Cathy and Heathcliff’s looks in that they stand out from the norm (most people at that time had blue eyes). While I want to see diversity in casting, I think sometimes the discussion can veer into an obsessive sense of racial purity that I find dangerous in some contexts.
"Like when I think of Heathcliff, I think of young Oscar Isaac - you can’t quite place what his roots are." Yeah, even Oscar himself said that casting agents called him "ethnically ambiguous" on top of the fact that Jacob is playing Adam/The creature in Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein where Oscar is playing Dr. Victor Frankenstein only adds to your observation. Yes, Adam isn't really described as looking like Victor in the book, but knowing GDT's work and the theme of fathers and children that is pervasive in his work, GDT is going to try to make Victor and Adam look more alike than not. So all that to say I think (while not knowing the book) I agree with your stance based just off your observation on Oscar Isaac alone. 💜
Oscar Isaac is a good example, because he also played anglosaxon characters(literally played Kin John in Robin Hood) and could easily "pass" as a southern european, which at the time the novel was written were also considered exotic, dark skinned and "not white"(as in: not equal to anglosaxons and nordics). I agree that the actor they casted sort of looks too anglosaxon to be "othered" the way he was in the novel, but he could pass as an italian, euro jew or spaniard or even roma, which are all "white" ethnicities that were considered part of a different race at the time. I don't know what US people have in their heads, but roma and middle eastern people not only are part of the caucasian group, but they 100% look like your average southern european. So I don't understand this argument that all europeans are rosy pale blondes so any mention of "dark skin" must mean "person from sub-saharian Africa". Literally any greek or italian could fulfill the role of Heathcliff, including the othering and racist bits, since at the time anyone that wasn't a pale english person from England (not Ireland lol) or a german or a nordic, was basically considered sub-human.
Last year may Aunt (for whom I was the primary caregiver) wanted a DNR. I don’t know if this is just a Canadian thing - but we were given a sheet with 5 or 6 options of DNR - levels of resuscitation she’d want. It took us days to discuss it and we ultimately asked her doctor what she thought. I liked having the levels - even if it was confusing to set up.
American medical worker in a geriatric setting, here: that sounds like a dream, tbh. The POLST form I've seen is a front and back document - I don't know if that's just because of my setting, or if that's standardize across America, but I think it should take more information that could fill up more pages. I'd be interested to see what a Canadian document looks like in comparison, but first I'll research DNR forms in America....
I 100% support bodily autonomy, including end of life and have some personal experience with it. One thing I'd warn of is that it's just a piece of paper. If a crisis happens, it's a crap shoot on if even a very detailed and explicit DNR will hold sway. From a very cold point if view, few medical staff or facilities will be sued over saving someone's life. Letting someone die inappropriately? That's a giant lawsuit. I'm not saying medical personnel _want_ to disregard these choices, but if things get crazy and if there is _any_ question as to the patient's wishes, they will err on the conservative side, which is "save the life."
It's unbelievable that we don't have something equivalent to that in the U.S. - but at the same time hardly surprising at all given how woefully inadequate or messed up everything is here.
I feel for the families and patients with DNRs when things go wrong, but I find it impossible to ask people who dedicate their lives to saving others not to do what they can in an emergency. The training probably kicks in automatically when they see someone in these situations.
The chat about open AI makes me so depressed. It's as if society just collectively forgot all the creatives were massively exploited by these companies. Now they are looking to go for profit, of course....
Doc straight up admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor, editing his statement three times before all together deleting it, claiming he was playing 4d chess. Regardless the reasons he was removed from twitch, he was banned with a massive contract. His own gaming company cut ties with him as well. RUclips cannot, in good standing, allow him to remonitize his channel. It will set a bad precedent moving forward for other creators who pull this shit then say “fooled ya.”
I made this exact point last week. Crazy he can remonetized anywhere. Fact is whether he was "charged" or not he Admitted to doing it Edited it Claimed he was playing chess and everyone "fell" for his troll. No idk about you but who tf thinks it's a smart idea, when your facing both career and life as you know it ending accusations, to "troll" about being an uncharged pdf
Absolutely. He is trying to play it off like he was talking casually to a 17 yr old in a place where the age of consent is 16, putting it in the legally grey area..... but legally grey isnt morally grey. Even if thats the case (Which would just about be the best case scenario), he would be an old man trying to sext a teen. Full stop.
@@crusixangel9513 The Doc shit is definitely sus, but I hope they leak those DMs. I think his chances of getting remonitized is high if he doesn’t get those leaked.
If you have to use the phrase "age of consent" to defend yourself beyond the age of 19, they're too young. I hope YT never gives his monetization back.
@@stankythecat6735so because we know you’re a weirdo if you use the age of consent to make yourself feel better we’re uptight? Didn’t realize making sure children and teens don’t get taken advantage of is uptight thought it was the bare minimum 😂
@@stankythecat6735 No, those people just don’t like old adults talking to people who aren’t able to legally drink yet. Also finding loopholes in laws for ages in consent because that’s morally wrong to a good number of people.
The story with the DNR reminds me of the joke with the religious man who prays to God to save him from a flood. Then he waits. Anybody that floats past and offers to take him to safety, he just replies “no thanks, God is going to save me! 😊”… …like somehow the doctors managed to miss the DNR despite the family being present and very aware of it, and save her life. So maybe, possibly, potentially, there’s a small chance that God decided it wasn’t her time? 🤔 Edited to add: the lady didn’t go to hospital for palliative care, they didn’t even know how far along the cancer was. The order says “do not resuscitate”, not “do not intervene”. If she was fighting them to the point they had to restrain her, does that even count as resuscitation?? I used to work as a carer and one client had a DNR up on her fridge and made sure it was the first thing staff saw when we visited, she wasn’t playing around. But I still had to administer her medication on my visits 😂 you don’t just sit and watch them fade away.
As someone with breast cancer, I was recently hospitalized for sepsis. (And FYI, I'll fight to live to the last!) But I was asked an INORDINATE amount of times if I "wanted to be saved if things went sideways" aka DNR. They asked constantly. YES, I'm here for medical saving! Please keep me alive!
May you be well, healthy, blessed and at peace! Miracles happen every day❤️🫂✨ I hope that the past tense of your comment means you’ve made it out of the hospital. You’ve got this. Purple haired people aren’t weak. 😁
@@ertsec most people would be, true. So so so many people are brought in because SOMEONE ELSE called 9-1-1 or forced/coerced them to be treated. They decline tests, refuse medications and interventions, and attempt (generally successfully) to leave "against medical advice". But the catch is, when someone in the care team makes any sort of judgment about diminished capacity, a lot of these rights to decide for themselves are stripped or ignored, sometimes rightly and sometimes wrongly.
@@jvd3339Yea immigrants have a ton of power and political influence here. They aren’t the ones with the least amount of resources and influence at all. Maybe it’s just the kind of people that label immigrants a “crisis” are more likely to be bad people.
I work at a retirement community--independent living, so no nurses or anything. However, residents passing away is something we deal with more often than we would like. I remember hearing about a resident who passed away shortly after I started working there. He had a DNR but they couldn't find it, so they were using the defib for what I hear was almost 2 hours before it was located. Which I think was a crazy amount of time even assuming he didn't have one at all. While it felt like an eternity, I think EMS tried maybe 45 minutes with my mother before taking her to the hospital so she could officially be pronounced dead.
At the hospital I work at in Canada we have different levels of DNR. DNR-Basic, DNR-restricted, Comfort. Where each level has different levels of care that patient would be comfortable receiving with comfort often being our palliative patients that we don’t offer blood work or active treatment for.
@@ertsecI'd assume that in the vast majority of cases when a dnr is relevant the person is already in a situation (hospital,hospice, home care, etc) where anyone that would be responding is already aware of what is expected
This story and my history with my mom's DNR is making my want to assign a power of attorney for these worst case scenarios instead of a single document that tries to cover all situations. Do you know if this viable?
@@Spiker985Studiosit’s not something that is drafted, it’s literally just a normal form you check boxes on. I assume if you’re super rich or something you might be able to do that, but it’s definitely not what is usually done. Believe me, I signed mine last year.
My mother didn't have a DNR but she had a cardiac arrest for almost 30 minutes when a nurse started resuscitating her, leaving her brain dead and eventually dying a week later. It was extremely traumatic for our whole family, and it made all my mother's worst fears as a person with chronic illness come true.
@@Digger-Nick He admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor. What are you on about? He exposed himself, just like how you exposed yourself thinking nothing is wrong with that...
plenty of people in hollywood are creeps and we go watch their movies, im sure there are gouls in the music business and people still listen to the music. i can separate the performance from the performer.
My mom was very sick for years before she passed in 2018. She had several surgeries and treatments and nothing was working. While she was still concious, as her medical proxy, I spoke with her and we agreed together, with the support of the rest of the family, that a DNR was appropriate. One night in intensive care, the doctor on shift advised that we were probably at that point and we signed paperwork and decided to just make her comfortable, but not do any "heroics" to ultimately extend her suffering. We were at peace with that and just wanted to spend whatever time we had left with her. In the morning, a new doctor was on shift and talked to me and my sister, demanding to know what we were thinking and basically accusing us of trying to kill our mother. I pointed out how every organ in her body was shutting down and her colleague signed off on our decision just 12 hours ago. She hotly shot back at us "I am trying to save your mother, what are you doing??" I stormed out of the hospital and refused to speak to her again. Mom passed a week later, but now even 6 years on, that doctor's name has burned a hole in my brain. If I'm ever in the hospital and she's the only doctor on, I'll get up and walk out. I never want to see her again. She made what was one of the worst weeks of my life so much harder.
As a Dr she should know how much your mom was suffering and not want to needlessly put her through more pain. I'm so sorry you had to go through that on top of dealing with the loss of your mom :'( I hope you're doing better now 💝
My father in law has pancreatic cancer and was in the hospital this past summer for a blood clot. We didn’t know that he had a DNR until we were with him in the cardiac ICU before his surgery and they asked him about his wishes. My husband and I were both surprised to hear his wishes but he has the same mindset of many of the people in these stories, “I’ve made peace with God and when He’s ready for me, I’ll go.” It’s definitely hard to hear from someone you love but it makes a lot of sense too.
100% agree with this. Ambulances are incredibly expensive for a reason, you’re getting a mobile mini-hospital with a team of highly trained medical professionals called to your house. To call an ambulance and let them bring you to the hospital and then get mad when they do what ambulances and hospitals do is incredibly selfish and stupid. I get the whole DNR thing, but if they REALLY believe in that then commit to it. The fact that we have people being traumatized from getting their lives saved is such a first world problem.
No they did not. Obviously the normal human reaction is to say I can’t breathe but she signed that paper a d they VIOLATE HER WISHES and robbing her of the end she chose
@@elodieelvira7913 But her daughter went to get help... because her mother couldnt breathe. If thats the case, Daughter is at fault, not the doctors. They did their job. Daughter violated those wishes.
This! Don’t ask for something you don’t want. Did she think the staff was going to “help” by placing a pillow over her mother’s face and hold it there until she stopped moving?
@@Digger-Nick He literally admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor and then tried to cover his ass by editing it after. And if they weren't sexual in nature, why in tf would he even bring up age of consent as a defense for himself? Do you need him to explicitly say it? Are you that braindead?
My grandmother had a DNR. She went into cardiac arrest while being transferred from one hospital to another. We gave all the staff her medical paperwork and even told them she had a DNR, but they still preformed CPR on her in transit. They cracked her sternum and broke 3 rips, puncturing a lung. She had to be put on life support for a week while my mom and her siblings had to decide to pull the plug or not. We did everything we could to make sure everyone knew and they STILL tried to “save” her life. Instead of my grandmother passing as peacefully as possible, they made her final moments excruciatingly painful, terrifying, and violating. I don’t wish that on anyone and I hope we get a future where this rarely happens.
On the DNR topic, I've seen the shift both in the field and in the hospital to if the DNR is not in your hand, mean the original with signatures, not a copy, not a picture, not a word of mouth of the family, even a last second utterance of the patient. The DNR DOES NOT EXIST(even with digital charts, you still need the original on paper). I have worked in both prehospital EMS and in an ED for the better part of the last 20 years. The example case is also a horrible one as even if the DNR was known and in place, the daughter asking for help puts it in a gray area as it can easily be seen as superseding the order
Right? I’ve seen many cases with DNR where a family member who is in charge of their health as well , mandates for them to resuscitate. It’s crazy here that the daughter fought it after literally asking for help
@@BigLizzard2 recently got the lasting power of attorney for my parents (I'm German so it's probably a bit different). It also includes an DNR under specific circumstances and clarifies that I do not have the power to overrule the DNR, so this situation wouldn't happen.
@@Random-Saurusthat’s awesome that where you’re from you have to respect the DNR. Unfortunately that’s not the case in the USA. I have had to start cpr on a 96 y/o because the family didn’t respect the parents wishes.
My grandfather was a DNR that got CPR and a ventilator. The end result was him suffering even more in his last days from the broken ribs and the tube than he would’ve from letting the sepsis cause that cardiac arrest and end his life… and he never recovered. After a few days of clear pain on the vent, he came off for several hours of labored breathing. It was honestly the most inhumane thing they could’ve done.
Something about that DNR story confuses me, the daughter saw her mom was motioning that she couldn't breath and called in the doctors wanting them... to do what exactly? Not intubate her clearly, then what? Why call them in? Why not reiterate to them the DNR to avoid confusion over what help you actually want for her not breathing? DNRs are confusing because what someone does or doesn't want done is very individual and it makes sense drs would err on the side of keeping you alive. Like if all she needed was some albuterol would she want it or is that interfering with her natural death too? When my grandma was near her end she had a DNR but it was more about no CPR and not being hooked up to machines to live but intubation doesn't always involve a ventilator. Meanwhile my friends mom has a DNR, doesn't want intubation, recently went to the ER struggling to breath and now needs to be on an oxygen machine the rest of her life and shes totally fine with that.
DNR does not equal DO NOT TREAT. There were many interventions that could have been taken prior to intubation in a post-procedure respiratory distress situation.
There are treatment measures you can give to patients with a DNR order in respiratory distress that don’t violate the order (BiPAP, nebulized medications, etc). If these weren’t working and intubation was the only option, care could then be withdrawn.
@@biancadeetThe patient would still, very likely, die in distress as she suffocated. And there is definitely need for discussions that also involve hospital staff to see how willing/comfortable staff is being told not to provide help in a life or death situation when the patient is clearly struggling
I believe that the daughter likely told them, because she wants them to know what's happening. Imagine your elderly mother dying, knowing that she's been miserable in her last days, but you don't want to be blamed for neglect, or worse, being blamed for killing them. You just want the medical professionals to know what's happening, so they can at least confirm what is happening. It's also extremely conflicting since you want what's best for your loved ones, but you also don't want them to suffer. DNR doesn't necessarily mean that you can't at least make them comfortable as they pass on.
I don't understand the DNR lady, she wants God to determine what happens to her, why even bother going to the hospital to get the cancer tracked? She knew she had cancer, she wanted nature to take its course, why didn't she just stay home??? It's unfair to put the blame on the doctors/nurses when they see her daughter panicking and YELLING FOR HELP when you supposedly don't wanna be revived? They were trying to help you! Unfair to want it both ways.
I think it's very likely they just don't want resuscitation because they are kinda low-key wanting life to end. There is a huge difference between "do you sometimes want to die?" vs "do you sometimes wish to go to bed but never wake up?" (suicidal vs tired), and I imagine that with age and ails the latter become much more (and more often/longer) of a "yes". Meaning that they don't want to die (nor further degraded QoL), so they seek medical assistance. But once they actually fall into an eternal sleep? They just don't want it disturbed. Then there is also the obvious - resuscitation carries the risk of permanent ails even if it succeeds. While they might be religious - or simply not suicidal - they nevertheless might also not want to live with a worse QoL. And so figure that if it happens, just let it, and don't bother with the hassle of all that extra pain. Finally, there are some that truly do it for religious reasons. But at that point you have to ask "why they draw some line wherever they drew it?" and point out the hypocrisy in any answer.
Cancer is painful, she wanted the pain to go away. In her mind God determines WHEN her heart stops beating, but it is up to her to do whatever it takes to stay alive and more importantly not be in pain. She also mentioned suicide; for her kind suicide prevents you from going to heaven.
dying of cancer without supportive care can be incredibly painful and slow. i'm sure she wanted to be spared that kind of suffering, even if the line between what god intended and didn't is blurred. besides, that phrase has many interpretations and i think most folks who believe in it are still getting regular medical care. what counts as what god intends is different for everyone.
@@tinycatfriendthat still doesn’t justify her gesturing to her daughter that she couldn’t breathe and then asking for medical assistance! What the hell were they going to do? Ignore her pleading???
my guess is to get pain medicine. just because you're ready to die or know you're about to, doesn't mean you would want it to be a slow or painful experience. You can have symptoms/pain treated still without fully going through a life saving surgery for example.
My mom has a DNR she has it tattooed on her wrist that if she’s unconscious for over 72hrs to pull the plug. Glad she made it very straight forward and my heart goes out to people that need to have the more detailed conversations about their care
Dr Disrespect inappropriately texted a minor. He admitted it. It doesn't matter if it was legal or not. He should not be allowed to be "uncancelled" IMO.
It's like pro Jared . Everyone was like "everyone was legal it's fine!" But he was specifically targeting fans... THATS CREEPY! He has to have a power dynamic to be happy? WTH...
Curious to know, what do you expect him to do? Do you expect him to be banned for ever getting any job (and have to live off the state) or just ban him from social media jobs because of his influence? If it's the first, are you happy knowing that you will have to foot the bill for him? Not defending what he's done, just curious
@@penfold-55I honestly don't really care what he does.. he just shouldn't have people still backing him, it's disgusting, I don't have any leniency for pedos
@@penfold-55 he shouldn't have a platform. If he had admitted he did it, that it was wrong and said he was working on himself fair enough. But he doubled down on being a creep
It's been years since I read Wuthering Heights but I think there could be problematic issues regardless of whether a white or romani person plays Heathcliff. Remember that WH was written by a white woman. The book itself is not particularly flattering to Heathcliff's character. I used to remark to my English teacher that it was not a story about love, but about hate and vengeance. Heathcliff was horribly abused, rebuffed by Catherine, then the rest of the story is about him cruelly taking vengeance not only on those who directly hurt him, but punishing and harming their children as well. So unless they made massive changes to the overall story (which I personally wouldn't mind) I don't see how "Romani child abused by white adoptive family comes back for vengeance against their children" wouldn't be problematic itself (once again, remembering the story was written by a white woman in the 1800s, sooo not surprising)
THIS^ I understand a want for the role to be accurate, but Brontë realllyyyyy leans in to the “savage/animalistic” stereotypes of anyone who is not White. Having the moral backbone of the novel describe Heathcliff’s character in such a racist way does not bode well for casting a person of color for the charactor. I feel like if you just want to make the class commentary, a white man is fine? But I also feel like I would have trusted this director to use a little bit of nuance?? Idk what the solution is for an adaptation, but this doesn’t feel like the best option…
@@hannahstrashcan RIght?! Like, I can MAYBE picture a really interesting and subversive rewrite where the story is more from Heathcliff's perspective as a romani child potentially ripped from his community (we never really get the story of HOW this white man just waltzed home with a romani child) but I don't know that I would trust that kind of rewrite to anyone who wasn't romani themselves, ya know?
My father-in-law was hospitalized earlier this year, they discovered cancer throughout his body to the point they stopped looking, immediately put him in hospice, and when he started to code, the staff began to resuscitate only to stop when one of the Nurses noticed "DNR" written on his arm. No one knew, not my sister-in-law or the hospital until they saw that, and then had to explain to my SIL they couldn't assist him. It came as a shock to all of us, and he passed shortly after.
The DNR thing... why would the daughter call for help if you don't want it? And then get mad when you.... GET HELP? Where is the logic in that? Were they all supposed to just KNOW within 90 seconds that she had a DNR? For a routine checkup? Give me a break. I'm sorry she's living like that, it must have been a hard thing to witness, and may be even harder to live through, but passing the blame onto the medical staff **YOU** ASKED TO HELP SAVE HER LIFE is utterly ridiculous.
I'm a Doctor working in America, when someone is having shortness of breath as this patient had described, there are several things that can be done that is considered NON-invasive to help with the symptoms. As others have said above, Bipap (non-invasive ventilation), albuertol (a nebulized medication that helps open up airways), sometimes even a little bit of IV ativan can help (anxiety can be a driver for the sensation of difficulty breathing). If despite these efforts, it is clear that the patients respiratory status is declining and the only option available is intubation (aka breathing tube in lung) then another discussion has to be had on implimenting comfort measures and allowing the patient to pass naturally. So just because you have a DNR, DOESN'T mean you cant get some form of NON-INVASIVE treatment to help your symptoms. Obviously I don't know the exact situation for this woman, but I have found sometimes that it is hard for docs to just throw their hands up and say that there isn't much else to offer, especially if there is someone right in front of you actively in crisis. It is a much easier conversation to have if a patient is slowly declining over the span of several days in the hospital and family members are actively witnessing this decline, but in an acute setting it can be hard. Just my 2 cents.
@@robinhatch1187 I totally agree. Asking for help is always fair and warranted, and just because someone doesn't want resuscitation doesn't mean they want to suffer. There is a lot that we can do, including helping them pass away comfortably. It is natural and human for people to call out for help while in distress, and it also doesn't mean we need to go against anyone's wishes. There's always nuance.
@@robertdietz1732he hasn't done anything besides running and quitting even when everyone was with him. I think he was just trying to get as many people to vote for the left as possible before he switch to the real candidate running for president
@@Dave_of_Mordor"before he switch to the real candidate.." What? Wanna retake 1st grade English and try that sentence again? What are you even trying to say, what does "switched to the real candidate" mean to you? He didn't switch, genius. The DNC chose somebody else (Hillary) to be the Democratic nomination. That wasn't a choice he made, I don't know why you would think it was unless you're just kinda dumb and not really paying attention. He could have run as an independent. Go on, go look up the statistics about how well independents do in US presidential elections. FFS if you're too lazy to actually know what you're talking about then maybe just keep your uninformed opinion to yourself.
The DNR situation is so much more complicated and difficult than people understand. If you have a medical emergency that is causing cardiac or respiratory arrest, they call a "Code blue" often simply called a code/coding. This will cause a ton of people from all over to drop what they're doing and come running as fast as possible to start administering emergency care. A lot of proper procedure is skipped, like checking medical records, because every second counts. I forget the exact statistic, but I think it's something like every 10 seconds without CPR drops your survival chances by 10%. So it is pounded into every medical providers head that they need to work as fast as possible. Your personal doctor and/or nurse SHOULD know if you have a DNR and thus not call a code blue, but if your emergency happens while they're busy helping someone else, you'll get the closest nurse/doctor who won't be familiar with your medical record and will thus react as they've been trained. Or your nurse/doctor could simply forget in the heat of the moment. If you're not in the ER or ICU a code is fairly uncommon so they may default to their basic training. This issue is part of why I'm a proponent of physician assisted suicide for the terminally ill who desire it. When I go out, I want it to be calm and graceful on my own terms rather than suffering and slowly waiting for an illness to claim me.
As someone with a DNR and DNI (at 29, so I’m more likely to be resuscitated) the story about Cooper is TERRIFYING. I already live in agony everyday. I’m currently typing this message from a hospital bed and my palliative care doctor explicitly asked me what I wanted for this hospital visit when I was admitted. They already have my DNR on record and he still doubled checked EXACTLY what I want. Everyone deserves a doctor like mine, but I’m on of the lucky few. This system needs to be written more clearly, and even then , it needs to be reviewed upon every hospital/doctor office visit!
My mom had a DNR after she went into hospice. When she died, we had to call 911 to report her passing since she had actually graduated out of hospice and died two weeks after. When the dispatcher tried to get us to do CPR, we explained that she was already gone and had a DNR so we would not do CPR. Thank God we had it because when the cops came, they questioned my brother and I separately. My mom wanted to die at home, she wanted to pass and knew it was her time. No one should have that choice taken away from them.
I never liked Adams. He seemed like a Dem similar to Manchin. Pretty conservative and barely a Dem. He was always shady as hell and I definitely was surprised he got elected. I think it was mostly name recognition and being an officer. Unfortunately, people just seem to vote based on team red or blue and who they know. He needs to step down.
Yeah, you've got a point about "People just seem to vote Team Red or Team Blue", but it kinda falls flat after your first point; it can easily be seen as you just trying to protect Team Blue. Both points, alone, are fair enough statements, but when you put them together it just looks like you're doing the defensive version of the action you're condemning.
@@BC-ny3zb not really. There's a pretty obvious split between progressive and establishment Dems (with the latter basically supporting the Republican policies of the 90s-00s). Dem voters overwhelmingly support the progressives. This in contrast to republicans, who tend to be on the same Paige despite their disagreements.
I'm a doctor working in the ED currently and saw, just a couple of days, ago a successful resuscitation of a patient (using CPR and defib pads) who had signed a DNR on a previous admission, but not during the current one. The decision to continue resus in these vague or ambiguous situations is often because it's seen as the "safer" option medicolegally - alongside some of the other factors you mentioned. It can be hard to decide in these high-pressure situations and often the decision comes down to "how sure are we that we could defend this in coroner's court" rather than "what do we think is in the best interest of the patient" Both have their place, especially since the medical community has a less than ideal track record of making decisions for patients that they wouldn't necessarily agree with. So sorry to this woman and her family for the suffering caused by the medical staff's intervention here.
They are servants, they need to do as they are told.... how many souls did you fucked over by peddling the lastest "get rich quick schemes" from bigpharma?
She did this to herself over an idea she only held onto out of spite. Why would she go to see how bad her cancer was if she truly believed that when it was her time to go, she should just go to meet god? The logic would follow that all doctor intervention is messing with God's plan. She's either incredibly stupid (to the point of needing supervision by others) or she never really believed that at all.
EMT here, while I can't speak for the hospital side of things as well. I can confirm that we follow a very similar mentality to the comment above. Whenever we're in that situation when we are not sure about whether a DNR is present for a patient. We are generally going to move with the assumption that resuscitation is necessary unless someone can present the DNR paper to us. That being said we are usually on site at a person's residence when this happens. I would also point out that sometimes the situation is stressful and there are a lot of factors we are considering. Among the slew of thoughts and considerations I can sometimes see the error of forgetting to ask about a DNR or investigating it. Sometimes in the moment we blank out on that information when there's other concerns filling our mind and we default to what we believe to be the safest option in the moment. My heart goes out to everyone who has to deal with these moments.
My grandpa had a DNR. He and my grandma made a promise when they were younger that they would respect each other's DNRs to ensure neither of them ever had to make a life-or-death medical decision. When he was dying, he held out till all the family had seen him. He waited till night when the nurses came around less and took out his IVs and breathing tube. He wanted to die on his terms (he had a few days at best). The nurses immediately started life-saving measures. My grandma then had to agree to take him off life support a few hours later. It was devastating for the whole family, but especially my grandmother, who was left to make that decision.
This story about the DNR orders hits really close to home for me. Last year we had to make that very difficult choice for my father after he suffered a stroke, he had always made his wishes abundantly clear to myself and others throughout his life that he never wanted to live a life where we could not live without machines or caregiving. In our case, the doctors were extremely understanding about those wishes and even supported our decision knowing what kind of quality of life he would have should they try to resuscitate him. It seems like that type of training is not ubiquitous throughout the healthcare industry and it's really frightening to think what it would be like having to suffer or watch a loved one suffer against their wishes.
I don't understand the "when it's time to go, it's God's choosing, not hers." Isn't resuscitation or reviving someone only possible if god allowed it to happen?
1. A man will not change, at least for the better, unless he is set on fire. And his fans will just get more radicalized. 2. Hold up, hold up, might be a minor detail but "couldn't afford fees for her ankle monitor"? What the heck? People have to pay for their own punishments? Like, what the fuck is that about? She's already suffering the consequences by wearing the ankle monitor. Now they're going to put her in an even more vulnerable position by adding fees on top of that, possibly forcing her back into criminal activity to be able to afford it since people with records don't get hired anywhere?
My grandmother had a DNR. During COVID lockdown she was in a nursing home when she fell from her wheelchair, and hit her head. Due to covid restrictions they wouldn't send her for imaging and she ended up passing away from a slow brain bleed. I had a nurse try to...make me feel better?...about not getting to see my grandma before she died alone by saying "Well she had a DNR anyway so even if we saw something on a scan we wouldn't have done anything". 😐 That's not how those work ma'am. I work in healthcare and I have never been more disappointed.
Holy hell! This is probably the closest to home a Phil Segment has hit. My parents are from Whitesburg, they grew up with the Sheriff. From what my mom says, the word behind closed doors is that Mickey shot Mullins because Mullins had been, and I quote, "Fooling around with his teenage daughter." Mickey was also planning on retiring soon anyway, so from my understanding that's what the actual town thinks happened, what my folks think happened anyway.
I used to work in a care home and DNRs were vital. They were on the front page of every care plan and we had signage all over the home reminding us who had a DNR and who hadn't. We always had to respect the choice of the patient regardless of whether we agreed with them or not.
When my mother was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in late 2019 she signed a DNR. She was committed to fighting the cancer with everything she had and was even cancer free at one point. But pancreatic cancer is a bitch and she was unable to heal completely from her surgery. She passed out when my brother was visiting her at the beginning of July and was taken to the hospital. Her blood pressure was dangerously low and she was given fluids to bring it back up. She was in the hospital for a month and every day her attending would call me and say she was doing better but they kept pumping her full of fluids until she was bloated like a too full water balloon and she was leaking water from her skin. She wasn't able to pass the fluids. She told me she wished they would have just let her go that first week, that she was ready. She lived until the end of November. Lymphedema was what eventually killed her. The fluids kept accumulating until she drowned. Her hospital had a pretty comprehensive DNR detailing what was acceptable and what was not. But as comprehensive as it was, it didn't include fluids to raise her blood pressure. She suffered longer than she had to because of the hospital's intervention.
The DNR issue is even more complicated than your story. In most states EMT's have to have a separate Dr.s order to honor a DNR, so most EMT's if called out will ignore your DNR without a letter or Doctor order telling them to honor it. I just went through this with my dad, very strong DNR on file with all the local hospitals but he fell and the EMT's were gonna do all sorts of stuff unless/until I got his Doctor to tell them not to. Then, even at the Emergency Room, I had to go round and round with the on call Doctor there NOT to have them do a ton of tests, including a CRT scan - pulling out the Doctor order and the DNR and literally asking for his boss to get on the phone. $1000s of dollars of unnecessary tests for my dad, who was in the final stages of Parkinsons and under hospice care! The system is fucked up.
A DNR order doesn't mean you can't get testing and other medical interventions done. That isn't the function of a DNR. In your case it makes much more sense to not have things done for your dad as he was enrolled in hospice. But even under this circumstance, a discussion should be had with the docs taking care of your dad so that everyone is in agreement that you and your family do not want any further testing or interventions done on dad. Unfortunately, the DNR papers (a MOLST form or POLST form) often do not encompass the finer details such as testing, non-invasive procedures etc... this just muddies the water for everyone. I'm a physician currently practicing in America so I can only speak from a physicians standpoint, I can't speak to how EMT's operate. Would like to hear from any EMT's out there! Sorry for what you and your dad went through, unfortunately this happens too often 😞
The fact that people are still tuning into Dr Disrespect shows how completely cooked we are as a society. The few of us who can see the writing on the walls (it's in blood.) are just absolutely mortified for the future...
I do wonder how many people have shown up just to see what, if anything he says. And then when the news cycle moves on a lot of those views drop. At least that's my own naive hope for what's going on.
I never cared for the guy, but on the contrary, I think that people not "cancelling" someone without being presented hard proof successfully tried in a court of law, shows society still hasn't conked entirely. And even then, I never think it is ok to extend a punishment beyond what was decided by law, as some kind of batman vigilante mob. And while not relevant to this case, when society makes someone lose their job (even if convicted) they are the worst - as evidence has consistently and always shown that the stability provided by a job is the _best_ way to prevent recidivism.
@feha92 1. He admitted it 2. No one should feel obligated to stay fans of a predator charged or not 3. Its cute you still believe in the justice system
Look...no one really knows what happened and he wasn't arrested or law enforcement was never involved.....but there are far further evil examples that shows that society is cooked. Dr. Disrespects situation isn't even a blip on the evil radar. If you aren't going to allow anyone to make a mistake and learn from it...and then use that learning to influence others and open up discussion more...then I don't know what you expect out of life. Go watch an episode of I survived and gain some perspective on what evil really is
@@feha92 Backing a celebrity that cheats on his wife and talks to little girls is not a positive sign for society. I'm sorry you support pedophile celebrities.
I was in a VA hospital for a leg amputation because of an infection and it was a bit of an emergency due to sepsis. Before I went into surgery, I had the head nurse go over with me in detail, DNR info and the details of what would cause the DNR to go into effect. That felt like the right way to do it. The problem, she told me, with a DNR, is even if I had all the details down on documents, anyone who is my next of kin could come in and give different orders and they would have to throw all that out and do what they say as long as I was no longer competent.
Hmm i'm not sure this is entirely true. Generally, if a patient is hospitalized and has explicitly told healthcare personelle including doctors that they are a DNR and was in a lucid state when doing so, we honor those wishes. Even if later on in the hospitalization they became unable to make decisions on their own. But i'd have to look this up. To me it doesn't make sense, if you told me now that you wanted a DNR and completely understood what that meant, then tomorrow were unconcious for whatever reason, I would honor your wishes from the day before, even if next of kin didn't agree.
I work as a radiology technician in Sweden. I don't know if we have the same systemic problem with DNR but I will say it was pretty fussy at times when we had committed patients from the hospital. Sometimes we'd check some lab value to see if we could give full dose contrast media and in the corner of the programme window it says "0-HLR" (DNR). Sometimes the staff would tell us when we called them to send the patient down. I'm guessing at least half of the time we didn't know, and it certainly wasn't unheard of that CPR was started in our labs. It's happened to me several times during my 5 years working. It's not unthinkable they could be DNR patients when it happens but if we don't know we can't obviously take the chance or waste time finding out.
Why do people put so much stock in who celebrities support politically? Whether Taylor Swift or Bad Bunny, it just boggles my mind that people care so much about what celebrities think. They’re people, just like us. They aren’t divine entities or anything. We, as a whole, have a serious problem with idolization.
Because whether you like it or not celebrities have a lot of influence and power most people probably know more about Taylor Swift than they do about any politician in the running their words and actions have legit sway on the way of the world at times
@@aze94because we were all too young to vote in 2016, that’s why biden won in 2020 because the youth vote was actually finally old enough to vote. critical thinking matters!
@@DanielBlak folks gon' have their political alliances, and that's fine. But to profess that political corruption is a problem of 1 particular party is pure delusional behavior.
My grandfather was taken to the hospital from a nursing facility, before family could get there. He had an extra band with his hospital ID. When my Aunt just happened to ask about it, she was told “it’s for his DNR.” My grandfather did not have a DNR. This was at a well known hospital in a major US city. Things like that could contribute to doctors’ decisions on what medical choices to make.
Both in the medical field as a nurse aid and was POA for my grandmother who had a DNR. I’ve seen questions being raised even over helping someone who was choking because they were a DNR (yes, we helped) as well as stories of CPR being done on very dead people because the Dr didn’t sign the DNR so we had to “try”. I feel like with a DNR you also need a good Power of Attorney who will respect your wishes and advocate for you. (And, for the record, just because you have one named doesn’t mean they get any “power” until you or a doctor signs off on it that you’re not in a position to make your own decisions.) Then I will admit to being one that believes we should have the right to die. If you know you have a condition that is terminal then you shouldn’t have to suffer for the rest of that life if that’s not what you want.
My dad was very ill my entire life (chronic pain, addict due to pain killers and a plethora of other issues caused) and he had a DNR. in 2016 he had double pulmonary embolism and when the paramedics arrived my mom told them about it. They didnt listen snd and kept his heart beating. She grabbed the hard copy and went to the hospital to show the doctors. They had already put him on life support and she had to "pull the plug." the family knew his wishes and it probably gave him undue stress and suffering until he was taken off of life support. I know countless stories like this.
Interfacility Transport EMT of 8+ years here. The story and situation behind DNRs is incredibly nuanced and dangerous for everyone involved from the top down. Part of my job is getting patient information for people who are leaving the hospital and transporting them via ambulance where they need to go, be it another hospital, a nursing home, a hospice, or back to their residence. Not having a clear idea of whether or not a patient has an active and current DNR directly changes the dynamic of care we give and what we are responsible for. If I don't have a hard copy of the DNR, I have to assume there isn't one. At the end of the day, the litigation is not in my favor if I let a patient die and don't have a DNR to prove I was supposed to. That could end in not just me losing my license but criminal charges as well.
I have zero medical experience, but I was under the impression that DNRs are only valid within a hospital or medical facility because it's nearly impossibly to validate a DNR outside those areas. Which is why you can avoid trouble if you resuscitate a person with a DNR if you cannot validate it. Is there any truth in this?
@randomuch A "Do Not Resuscitate" order is valid throughout the entire patient care process, regardless of where they are. Unfortunately without having paperwork on hand, it makes it very difficult to justify legally allowing a patient to pass and not have it be proved as negligence in the courts. This isn't helped by the fact that each State has its own standard for what a D.N.R. is, and that doesn't include a potential federal-level interpretation of a D.N.R.
Paramedic for 16 years here.... DNR's exist outside of nursing and hospital facilities. For instance, a hospice patient who chooses to be at home with family. Here, the patient could have a DNR, DNI (Do Not Intubate), or a DNH (Do Not Hospitalize). The patients family or caregivers would be responsible for having this document readily available for any EMS that responds to the home. If they can't find it or something like that, we HAVE to assume their isn't one and render appropriate care. It sucks. Because I can't tell you how many times in my career... at a house, a nursing home, etc.... where it couldn't be confirmed one way or the other in all the chaos... so we initiate CPR, resuscitative medications, Intubation... only to have a nurse or family member suddenly find it. Here in NJ, as Paramedics, once we start we can't stop until a Doctor tells us to. There needs to be a far better and more visible way to alert Medical personnel that there is a valid DNR in place. Otherwise, we will continue to have situations like this, where we take away their wishes.
@irishedawg agreed. I believe there was an initiative in recent years to add DNR status to a medical alert tag on patients who qualify but I'm unsure if that bore fruit.
@SonofSekhmet So in NJ, our curriculum teaches to look for medical alert necklaces, bracelets, tattoos.... people do get these things but it's far and few in-between. My personal opinion is it should be mandatory. If you sign a DNR, you should be required to wear a specific, very visible and accessible necklace. Because in a situation like this, where's the likely first place we're gonna access... the chest right? I mean outside of forcing Grandma to get a chest tattoo lmao, seems like the next best thing.
I studied Wuthering Weights for undergrad, and Heathcliff's ethnicity is hotly debated. He's likely half English and half South Eastern European. The book is intentionally vague on the topic, framing him as abstractly not English. So long as the new actor is convincingly "foreign", and does justice to the role, then I don't see an issue.
@@lukeytron I think people just don’t understand how the film industry works it’s a weird juxtaposition they are in. Because roles do have gender, height, race requirements at times. I think as long as people aren’t purposely being passed over or not given a chance to get a role. Then we have to cool it with the outrage
@@lukeytron also Romani people, if he really is Romani as that person claims, are white. Many have tanned or olive skin, but they are literally caucasian. Not even a race swap.
Considering the idea of his gypsy heritage (not that the article cited could even spell "gypsy" correctly) also makes his heritage obscure. As someone of Celtic gypsy heritage, its not about where you're from. Its about where you're not from; and that's anywhere you land. This is not about him not being depicted as a "POC", or modern contextual "racism". People lack the modern cultural nuance to understand what the treatment of those peoples has been and is like even today.
@@thefruch7588 I see the "outrage" as a natural balancing act. Minorities are under represented, it's a real issue, but as you say, it's a business. Media creators need to make money, need to hire the best talent, and find a balance of inclusion too. We will see failures of not enough inclusion, and failures of too much inclusion. Hopefully fairness can be found in the aggregate.
I am an RN with a background in ICU care. Since a “young” age I have had a DNR\DNI. I have seen too much as a nurse to want those kind of cares for myself. This decision is constantly challenged in my own medical care by other medical professionals. Thankfully I am my own best advocate, however a lot of people who don’t have medical backgrounds don’t know how/when to advocate for themselves on this issue. I would love to see the medical community make some changes about how and when this VERY important decision is discussed with the patient. I would also recommend sharing these types of experiences to the public so we can all be better informed about what these interventions are like to experience and what the chances of both a positive and negative outcome really look like.
The whole Wuthering Heights debacle is silly. this is like when white people say "tall, dark, and handsome" the dark in that phrase really just means a dude that tans well. in the case of a dude playing a romani man. yes, he could be a nonwhite person, but the romani people especially the ones living in England co-mingled and their descendants are very much white or white passing. the story takes place in england, the character is assumed to be born there. this casting isn't a stretch
My dad's first generation Romani here in the states and gets mistaken for middle eastern some times. I've got blonde hair and blue eyes and from my mom's side but I tan really well. Put us next to each other and it looks like some just changed some contrast settings. Same with most of my cousins we've even got a couple red heads.
The way I'm currently leaning, the main question is whether or not a modern audience will buy that someone who looks like Elordi might look foreign to the other characters. Maybe they will, I don't know. Maybe Elordi tans well?
On the wurthering heights.. Romani people have a variety of skin and hair colours. They’re indo-aryan and have been in Europe since the 13th century. Some would be seen as white in the US without context. Some would not. There are Romani that look very similar to that actor but there are also some that look much more similar to their indo-aryan roots. This feels a lot like the frozen drama when people wanted a dark skinned Elsa because it was a Sami fairy tale. Most Sami have light olive skin but many are blonde. They have been in Europe for 2500 years. To ignore the variation and diversity of groups and uphold one stereotype is harmful.
I think a better comparison would be Snow White. Since both have a written original. Everyone wants the skin tones to match the text but that never happens in Hollywood.
If you meet British Romani gypsies they would all be considered white and their genetics will not have changed much in the last 200 years. Also, gypsies covers more groups than just the Romani people the UK, Irish travelers are also called gypsies and this dates back to 1800s.
@@LemonBear007 that’s interesting. Most scholarly sources say 1600 B.C.E to 1500 B.C.E. If you have other sources I am always willing to have a look. I do know there are sites from 10000 B.C.E. But there isn’t other data genetic or cultural to link those glyphs to the same group. Would be interesting if some were found. (Similar interest in population y sites and genetics in the americas)
I'm an ER nurse and last night the doctor and I literally almost put a breathing tube in a patient with a "Do Not Intubate" order simply because we weren't aware it existed. Luckily the doctor managed to get in contact with the family across the country and learn the patients wishes but we literally had the tube in our hands when she had called him back. All I can say is please know us nurses and doctors WANT to honor your wishes, but it's hard when the alternative to us being wrong (as in thinking there's orders when there aren't) is death.
Kentucky resident here. Literally everyone is saying the Judge was messing around with the Sherriffs 14 year old daughter, despite there being no evidence at all.
I think that my dad got lucky in regards to his DNR. I had the choice to decide on whether they resuscitated or not, but I could tell he wasn't going to make it, so I just let them try to bring him back. I can't imagine how his life would have changed for the worse if they were successful and able to sustain his life with a bad heart... As much as I needed more time with him, I wouldn't want him to be suffering through that time. It's life changing for so many, not just the patient. I couldn't imagine changing my life so much either... It's already unfathomable how people get their ducks in a row to make a funeral or service of some kind in order while dealing with all the grief. It's been a month and I'm still very lost.
I’m a therapist that works in nursing homes, and during my first month working I had a patient code unexpectedly. This was a Saturday and he had just arrived the night before, so he had not been seen by the doctor yet or any administration and so we did not have a code status sheet filled out. We knew from his hospital paperwork that he had requested to be DNR there but because we didn’t have our specific paperwork for our specific facility, we had to perform CPR. The nurse leading the code was crying while performing chest compressions because she knew this was not his wish. Maybe thankfully, I don’t know, but our efforts didn’t matter, and he ended up passing.
For DNRs the language and knowledge of them has absolutely changed. When I was having my first surgery at 16 nobody asked if I had one on file or if I didn't want any attempt at revival if something went wrong- nor did they ask my legal guardians. But when I went in at 38, they asked me twice, once at the appointment before the surgery, and once just before surgery. They also used very clear language: "Do you want us to attempt to resuscitate if you die on the operating table? Do you object to the use of CPR? In the event of a coma, who is allowed to make decisions on your behalf?" Honestly, that's what a DNR should say, explicitly, and you should be able to request one through your doctor and be able to update it at any time. I probably will want a DNR as I get older, simply because medical outcomes take a sharp dive past your 60's. But we need to do an overhaul of the obtaining and use of a DNR and the medical understanding of a DNR.
I had to do CPR on someone (thankfully did not have a DNR). 20 years of first aid training in the military and it would be in my apartment building I'd have to use it. Man's heart had stopped. Small galley kitchen and this was a BIG dude, so I could only do chest compressions. Dial 911 on speaker phone, start compressions, and I can tell you it was the longest 10 minutes and 38 seconds of my life. I felt every rib pop from his sternum to get his heart pumping. It's something you never forget. Once the adrenalin wears off, you just drop like you ran the Indy 500 on foot. It is hard on the body, and I'd respect any DNR, but if someone drops and I can help, Ima gonna help.
The fact DrDisrespect has been able to make a comeback at all is honestly shocking. if you send inappropriate messages to a minor, you just straight up shouldn't have a platform anymore.
My mother had a DNR, she had a brain aneurysm In 1994 (edited sorry wrong date), and was conscious writing things down on paper, like she wanted a cup of coffee, and a cig. Then she developed brain seizures, and the DR's thought they had them under control, and took her in to surgery, where she had a stroke, and they had to preform life saving procedures, my Dad asked them why they dd this with the DNR in place, they told him "Because she did not state which functions she was not willing to live with out IE: walking, talking, seeing, ect. My dad was pissed, after the stroke, she didn't know who any one was, and for months she was back to infant status, she couldn't walk, talk, feed her self, was in diapers, slowly she remembered who she was and who we (kids grand kids my dad) were, but she never ever regained what she lost. she had foot drop in her right limb and her left hand, froze in a fist curled up next to her shoulder, so if any one wants a DNR be sure put what you are willing to live with out, and now i guess clearly state which life saving medical things you will and will not, accept. My mom died in 2000.
Phil's interaction with his AI digital assistant refusing to read a text and then not shutting down when he told her to was one of the funniest (and perhaps scariest) things I've seen in a long time.
It’s absolutely ABSURD to me that a person can straight up admit to having inappropriate conversations with someone they knew was a minor, and yet can still have an entire community of brainless followers just pretend it never happened and loyally support him anyway.
I think too many people in our country have trauma from Trump and don't trust other people at some level. They hear "I don't endorse" her which is usually not followed up with "but I'm still voting for her" and it frightens them/triggers their fight or flight.
13:20 My Grandma had a DNR. She was an anesthesiologist, one of the first female ones in the area let alone the US. When her heart stopped they defibulated her until she was brought back. She was supposed to be brain-dead and "couldn't feel pain." As the doctor put his finger near her mouth, she went to bite him. Her body was horribly swollen. The whole thing was terrible. She passed away within the weak, but I definitely understand the pain you'd deal with having your loved one's wishes disobeyed.
Jacob Elordi looks like he could be Romani... in fact, the Basque, where he is ethnically linked has a lot of Romani people. Also, before there was "white people" Europeans were identified and experienced a different life from one another... So let's pump the brakes on someone being cast in a role that they are most likely the ethnic background to begin with.
The whole "White" people thing is a very American concept. Yes, we have always had "white skin" as a trait that could be used to define us, but we Europeans don't really categorise based on that. We have our countries to go by, as well as smaller ethnic groups (such as Roma and Sinti people) or even regional ones (people from German Bavaria are NOT culturally the same as Germans from Hamburg or the Rhineland-Palatinate, as much as Americans love to glamourise Lederhosen.)
I may not be the biggest fan of Bad Bunny's music but I do applaud his attempts at making the mainland aware of the island's situation. "Una Velita" did light a fire under the NPP's butt before the billboards even went up since one of the lyrics is "The palm tree they want to use to hang the country, one of these days we'll take it down". Given that their logo is a palm tree, they knew that one was meant for them. These local elections are set to be some of the messiest in recent history since we've had issues with voter registration, candidates having to go to court in order to stay on ballots, removing dead people from registration, broken voting machines, power outages, understaffed voting centers, CEE employees deliberately leaking people's information, allegations of vote tampering, hacks, generally being unprepared & worst of all, voter apathy. People feel ignored & like things won't change. It's very depressing. It's true that PR's election this year consists of 5 parties. There have been years where it's been way more than that. The big three (aka the oldest surviving ones) are the Popular Democratic Party (1938 - Pro Associated Territory), the New Progressive Party (1967 - Pro Statehood), and PR Independence Party (1946). The other two at the moment are the Citizen's Victory Movement (2019 - Anticolonialism) and Project Dignity (2019 - Christian Conservatives). We also have some independent/write-in candidates, some of which have won legislative seats. Most older voters in PR vote along status definition (Statehood, ELA, Independence) lines while younger voters focus on social issues but since 2016, the shift towards social issues as the main focus has begun to occur with mixed results. Despite that article you mentioned talking about Dalmau being received positively among young voters, the PIP has generally always had an image/messaging problem since it's inception, which is why it's historically never done well in the elections for governor. A governor from a party that has been known for being under federal surveillance & is tied to some of the island's most turbulent times in the 20th century while being linked to countries like Venezuela or Cuba is a hard sell. Both them & the PDP need a serious platform rebranding in order to poach older voters back from the NPP during this or any other election. This year, the CVM & PIP decided to create an alliance that was later declared unconstitutional. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to just fuse into one party during the 2028 cycle to avoid a repeat of that problem. Do I think Dalmau & the PIP + CVM stand a chance in the election for governor? Probably not. Will they get more votes than in 2020? Definitely. Will they actually win more legislative seats? I believe it's possible. Another important factor about this upcoming election is that they're trying to host another status referendum that exact day -something that both the PDP & PIP are known to boycott but brings out the Pro State crowd in droves. While I understand that they most likely did it to save costs, it's not the best way to be spending limited amount of resources at the moment for results that may or may not be accepted by the US Congress. If anything, I hope that they hire additional electoral staff during this month but that's probably just wishful thinking.
@@dirtysiouxsnooks33 Figured people would need it since this election cycle has indeed been crazy but this is all just surface level content. We've only been able to vote for Governor since 1948, a very short while ago considering that the island was a formal Spanish colony since 1500s before passing to the US in 1898. That's centuries of not having executive level representation & it shows in people's voting habits, even once they move to the US mainland.
I've read Wuthering Heights a few times throughout middle school, high school, and college. Each time I took a little something more from the book. I understood Heathcliff to be "swarthy," which I interpreted as southern Italian, Greek, northern African, or Middle Eastern? I'm certainly not a scholar, but it was very clear in the book that he wasn't English.
My absolutely badass Grandmother Mimi fought ovarian cancer for over 17 years. In and out of remission, seemingly countless rounds chemo and radiation. When the cancer came back the final time, my Mimi had already made the decision she was done. She discussed this with her doctors, and we talked about it as a family. I'm so glad that by the time her health and mental capacity started to decline the entire family, and her medical team were all on the same page and knew exactly what she wanted. The last few days of her life were spent in the hospital. The doctors kept us informed of all of our options (diagnostics / treatment) but differed completely to the family. They kept her comfortable and she passed away peacefully, the entire family surrounding her bed. There was no pain, no blaring alarms or codes. Conversations about death and your wishes are hard. But I can't imagine how much harder losing her would have been if we hadn't had that peace of mind, of knowing exactly how she wanted to go out.
In regards to the DNR segment, I commend the incredible restraint of the editing team in NOT using the clip from Pixars Incredibles "you didnt save my life, you ruined my death!"
DrDisrespect is a creep. Plain and simple the absolute BEST case scenario still has him having conversations that I imagine most people would not want their minor child having with an adult. The only way he can ever remove that stigma from a large portion of his fans, other streamers, and I'd hope any reasonable adult would be to release the actual chat logs showing what he actually did. Now let's not sugarcoat this, he absolutely has those logs because they would be part of his case against twitch, the NDA is broken so he is free to talk about it now and so we sit wondering if he wanted to show he was innocent completely, why not show the logs? The simple answer, it would do more damage than help which means it is at least somewhat bad. I'm good, no DrDisrespect for me, he is a creep and I'll watch any streamer in the same space that refuses to work with him.
Mad respect for the time and effort you took to delve into the DNR story and honestly do a fantastic job summarizing what is an extremely complex topic
The DNR situation is rough. But... She wasn't dead when they inserted the breathing tube. So I'm not sure the resuscitated her, so much as didn't allow her to die in front of them.
@@genericfakename8197 so if you got shot and were bleeding out no bandages? No blood? The resuscitation bit taken literally I thought meant more like restarting the heart. So I agree they should legally classify it better. No CPR and no breathing tubes after a negative reaction during a planned procedure feel like two different things.
@@biancadeet fair enough. I did not know. I figured Phil would touch on something like that when discussing how it's ambiguous. I could still see a situation where a doctor doesn't have those orders in writing or is concerned with being liable after a procedure and this outcome happens.
For all those upset at Emerald Fennell‘s decision to cast Jacob Elordi in Wuthering Heights you can relax. She's going to have him play the role in black-face. j/k
I am a nurse in Texas. On the DNR conversation, a few years ago, Texas legislation has come forth and defined DNR differently for us. We have DNR/AND or allow natural death and DNR/COT; continue other treatment. Continue other treatment includes things like antibiotics and tube feeds but doesn't allow CPR or resuscitation while the AND option does not allow any further medical treatment. We also have a designation called limited code where patients can spell out specifically what they do and do not want to allow. It can sometimes be a little frustrating to have to re-explain to people what each one means but at the end of the day, it prompts conversations for families about what the patient actually wants.
Religious people can never make up their minds about DNR. Literally sue you if you don't, and sue you if you do. Doctors should not have to deal with peoples fantasies while trying to save their lives.
The Wuthering Heights casting caused a big stir in my writing group-all of us are fans of the book and we HATE this. I hesitantly think Robbie can pull off Cathy, though if it is a period piece she has too modern a look, but Elordi is absolutely the wrong choice for Heathcliff. As you already mentioned, Heathcliff is supposed to be dark-skinned (and it's actually still hotly contested in literary circles what his ethnicity is) and the ostracization he faces in society bc of it is a MAJOR theme of the novel-to remove that aspect is to gut the story. Every character, every interaction is influenced by his race; it is the underlying WHY of almost every choice made. If he were simply poor/lower class, he would not suffer everyone's revulsion the way he does. It makes me wonder if there's a certain level of fear to cast a man of color-Heathcliff IS a horrible man, a monstrous man, and perhaps they're afraid there will be cries of racism for making the one racialized character so awful. But that's the thing, the novel explores how Heathcliff is molded into that monster BY the revulsion everyone feels for him BECAUSE of his race, never mind the fact that every single other character is the worst person you've ever met in your life. Casting one of the current favorite pretty white boys shows a fundamental misunderstanding of not just the character but the novel as a whole, and frankly I don't want to see yet another milquetoast adaptation. It's cowardly and it's ignorant.
Heathcliff is described “as white as the wall behind him” He is not a man of color. English people are ethnocentric so anyone not english is foreign even if they’re another kind of European. Thats the point, Heathcliff is dark and brooding (written by a horny shy girl- who romanticized this kind of man in her life). If there were racial elements that would be clear but it’s not. You’re not reading the material from the perspective of the time in England.
Nurse with ICU experience here, something that was not mentioned is how common it is for family members acting as a Power of Attorney, to overturn a patient’s DNR. This forces healthcare workers to proceed with life saving measures that the patient explicitly stated they did not want.
Former medic here. In the years I practiced, I've only ever seen a handful of DNRs. Most family members just scream at you they have a DNR, but fail to present it. If you don't see the official stamped paper, it doesn't exist. I'm not going to be an accomplice in your murder.
Edit: Keep a list of your allergies, important medical conditions (ask your doctor), and a list of your medications together in multiple places, and keep your medications together and in an obvious or visible location. Your wallet/purse, and your fridge are great places, also ask your local EMS/Fire/Police. This is invaluable information for first responders, and more importantly, the doctors at the hospital. Once had a patient who made business cards. DNRs are tricky, but try and have a plan.
@CoryPchajek EMT here, I always advise people put their DNR (as well as any important medical docs you might have) on their fridge. If I'm coming into a patient's house and no one else is home, that's the first place I'm looking.
are you sure you don't have a messiah complex?
Not to mention the daughter literally called for help.
@@Kaimax61 What the hell is wrong with you? His response is perfectly reasonable and is a part of the Hippocratic Oath.
@@Kaimax61 Why? because he doesn't want to get charged with murder? You have no idea if those other family members are telling the truth or just trying to get an inheritance and/or lawsuit.
It's literally the law that a DNR is only valid if it is filled out correctly and signed, you have no idea until you see it. Even honest mistakes happen, some people don't want the ET tube but are okay with chest compressions, family may not be aware of exactly what it says.
Also, another point that needs to be made is DNRs can be INSTANTLY INVALIDATED if the patient changes their mind and has the capacity to do so (barring someone else having power of attorney over their healthcare decisions that is in effect regardless of capacity).
So in the example provided in this video, it sounded like the patient freaked out because she couldn't breath and was indicating she did want full care (totally understandable), the doctors cannot be like "fuck off lady you signed the paperwork" and watch her die
I was an EMT for years. When your heart stops, those few seconds after your heart stops are crucial. Because of that, we were always instructed to immediately start CPR on a patient rather than spend the time looking on their person for a DNR. Because in the event that they’re not a DNR, then those few seconds could mean the difference between life and death. In a hospital setting, it’s different because they have the patient’s medical records and know if someone is DNR or not but it’s very difficult in first response.
That's why I've seriously considered having it tattoed right on my chest.
@@Serai3 not a bad idea but in California, we were also told not to abide by tattoos because they’re not legal documents. If someone has a “DNR” tattoo but you’re not a DNR in your medical records then that first responder is directly liable for your death. In California, the best thing would be to have an EMSA approved DNR bracelet or medallion always on your wrist and visible. Then I guess you could have “DNR: check bracelet” tattooed on your chest lol.
Inside a hospital with the chart hanging off the end of the bed it's a completely different story.
@@jsalsman Right exactly.
Some EMT's are getting hate in these comments but most understand you folk are in a crisis situation working with little to no information. You gotta do what you can to save the person until and unless the DNR is waved in your face.
Another comment asked about a tattoo. Does that count or not? I mean it's not a legal document and just "Do Not Resuscitate" certainly lacks specificity. But it's also a giant tattoo and I can't see how that happens without specific intent. What would you do as an EMT if you ran into that?
On DNR’s- I took care of my father for 20+ years and he had a DNR for about half of that. We knew his time was limited (they told us he had a couple weeks at most and he lived 25 more years) so we wrote it up so he wouldn’t have to suffer more than he needed to. We were lucky. The staff at his hospitals he was at the last 2 years were amazing and always asked what we did and didn’t want. So they can work out wonderfully. I was the only one with him when he did pass, and it was peaceful and exactly what my dad wanted. It’s been 4 1/2 years. Miss you dad. ❤
My mom had a DNR, but it wasn't on file with the hospital because she was in general good health. I knew about a the DNR because she discussed it with me. She had an accident and it took EMTs 8 minutes to get her heart restarted. Later, at the hospital, I told them about her wishes, but they refused to turn off the ventilator. It took us three days and an angle grinder before we found the paperwork in her safe we didn't know she had, three days she was kept in a braindead limbo, but if I hadn't known to look, it would have probably taken a court order. Please, please, please, talk to your loved ones about such things, and make sure someone knows how to find these documents.
Just want to say, whilst Phil threw out all those facts about CPR and its long term effects and viability, PLEASE do not hesitate to perform CPR in a situation where someone is not breathing!
My mom had a terminal illness (though it was well managed), & also signed DNR’s. She feared being hooked up to machines being kept alive when nothing was left of her inside her body. She had an attack like she’d had before & while in the ambulance her heart stopped. By the time they got it started again, it was to late, she was alive but brain dead. I don’t know how DNR’s are supposed to be known by EMT’s, like I didn’t know this time was any different than previous episodes so I didn’t think to tell them. I didn’t even know that’s something I’d need to tell them. Like when you’re in a situation where a persons heart stops, you can’t take time to check if they have a DNR bc time is of the essence. So I feel like there are some situations where the EMT’s or Drs won’t know. Like I once heard of a guy who tattooed his DNR order on his chest & at the time I thought that was wild, but now I kind of get it. Anyways it just sucked, my mom was on machines & we had to make the decision to pull the plus. The thing they don’t tell you and is different than medical dramas, is it’s not fast. It took days for mama to pass away. I don’t blame the EMT’s but having to make that decision when she just looked like she was asleep, that was pretty traumatic.
Just so you know, if you or someone you know wanted DNR and thought of tattooing it on them - doctors and paramedics legally cannot treat this as an actual binding DNR. You need paperwork present for it to be valid. In some states you can have a necklace or a bracelet that is given to you with the DNR paperwork, but even that isn't foolproof, so having papers or having a close person that knows where they are is the only sure option.
Crazy part is getting things DNRs tattooed on you aren't always followed due to legal gray areas based on where you live.
Honestly I don’t think a tattoo requesting DNR needs to be legally binding, just a reminder for the provider to check for one.
@@deirenne The DNR discussion did make me wonder if some kind of medical ID bracelet existed for it, I think they're reasonably common for various invisible illnesses that can result in unconsciousness or inability to properly communicate so it would make sense to for DNRs to be communicated to healthcare workers in a similar way. I guess the only issue is many people may not bother wearing them if they hadn't had a serious recent health scare but still seems like the best option as it's probably the only thing that can be checked quickly enough in these kind of scenarios, anything else would likely risk people without DNRs dying due to checks taking too long. Of course it doesn't do anything to solve the issue of healthcare workers not knowing exactly what treatment is or isn't acceptable under a DNR.
I mean like, if you have someone who doesn’t wanna be saved, just don’t call an ambulance till AFTER they’re gone. Cause there’s Not much else you can do. Death is death man. It’s painful, it’s scary & 90% of the time it’s slow. There’s no getting around that. Having a DNR won’t sidestep the process of dying. If you don’t wanna come back, well then get comfy wherever you’re staying cause I’m not gonna call anyone to move you till you got what you want out of life 🤷🏽
Adam's has had it coming for a while. Criminalizing homelessness while getting rich from taking bribes is disgusting.
#BotLife is alive & well. Knew this channel was #Spook
I'm sure every politician takes money from similar means that superficially looks fine but dirty as fuck beneath the surface. Why the hell is this acceptable in the first place? Seems like legal bribery in the first place.
Now do biden
@@snes06 yep, there's so many stories of politicians doing dodgy stuff due to gifts and money even when they have rules about declaring it. It's clear none of the current regulations actually stop these forms of legal bribery taking place and the fact that they just get to decide it's fine rather than an objective third party is utterly ludicrous, in any other job the things they do would definitely lead to being fired and very likely sent straight to prison.
@@snes06 you mean like firing the prosecutor who's going after the company your son is getting bribed by? And using gov aid to do it?
Props to the southern district of NY. They got Trump, Diddy and the mayor all in the same year. Mfs workin overtime
Nothing to give props to about what happened to Trump
Yes there is keep molding.
@@Digger-NickKeep coping, lose.r. Trump's a criminal 😂
@@Digger-Nickbiggest prop against Trump. F that convicted criminal.
@@Digger-Nick Props are always due to those who legitimately take down the corrupt in power.
Phillip, PLEASE on your next news cover the devastation Helene causes in Appalachia. Places like Erwin TN, Mountain City TN, Ashville, NC and Chimney Rock. The news isn't showing how bad it is or the lack of government help. The community is coming together though and that should be shared. Please everyone like this to boost it for him. It's so important for us appalachians.
For-profit AI scares the crap outta me... Where man is concerned, greed and corruption ruins people's lives as they become collateral damage. The race for A.I. and profits will prevent controlling AI. growth to protect humanity.
I was waiting for this to happen, Sam Altman was on the Trevor Noah podcast talking about how it’s “not about the money” and how money will change things and priorities of open AI 😂😂😂
It’s not even six months since and here we are.
Lol, the AI wrote the resignations for them, SkyNet has become self AWARE!!! RUUUN!! 😅
@@alexandrarose149 I love Trevor Noah! And yes, there have been many guests in the tech industries who have been sounding the alarm bells about how if there are no regulations world-wide, it leaves it open for companies to keep experimenting, and then others try to outdo the others, spiraling out of control. All it takes is one rogue intelligent loosened upon the world.
@@danielbyrne5402 IKR?
I feel like the DNR family would have a legitimate case if they hadn’t explicitly asked for help…
Seriously.
If her intent for the help was to make her mother more comfortable, not to save her life, it makes sense.
@@shdow0713 Sure but if they are not explicitly saying "Help, she cant breath, and she has a DNR so is there anything you can do to comfort her?" (which btw there isn't asphyxiation is a horrific mental torture as well), because what else could "help her, she can't breath" while pointing at someone whose visibly distressed and not breathing mean?
Wow finally a controversy I can weigh in on! I have a PhD in English and ethnic studies. The power of Heathcliff stems from the fact that he is racially unreadable - he is threatening as potentially nonwhite, but he has enormous sex appeal from the way he stands out from everyone. He has frequently been described as the sexiest man in English literature.
I’m not sure I love the casting because this choice doesn’t bring that mystery. Like when I think of Heathcliff, I think of young Oscar Isaac - you can’t quite place what his roots are.
There are these competing ideas of Heathcliff being Indian/Middle Eastern/Roma or even black (because he was found on the streets of Liverpool, which was up to its eyeballs in the slave trade). I think it’s a really interesting debate as someone who is married to a Middle Eastern man. On the one hand, MENA people are considered white by the US census, and many of them pass as white. My husband is very dark, and he definitely has faced discrimination. But what I’m trying to say is that it’s a part of the world that is kind of hard to generalize racially. I would think that it’s difficult to cast Heathcliff along a certain ethnicity because the clues in the novel are all over the place, perhaps because Brontë herself was ignorant about ethnicity and geography, or perhaps merely because she wanted to create intrigue.
You didn’t ask, but if we really care about looks, Margo Robbie is a terrible choice for Cathy, who has long dark hair and dark eyes. To me there is a kind of symmetry between Cathy and Heathcliff’s looks in that they stand out from the norm (most people at that time had blue eyes).
While I want to see diversity in casting, I think sometimes the discussion can veer into an obsessive sense of racial purity that I find dangerous in some contexts.
"Like when I think of Heathcliff, I think of young Oscar Isaac - you can’t quite place what his roots are."
Yeah, even Oscar himself said that casting agents called him "ethnically ambiguous" on top of the fact that Jacob is playing Adam/The creature in Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein where Oscar is playing Dr. Victor Frankenstein only adds to your observation. Yes, Adam isn't really described as looking like Victor in the book, but knowing GDT's work and the theme of fathers and children that is pervasive in his work, GDT is going to try to make Victor and Adam look more alike than not.
So all that to say I think (while not knowing the book) I agree with your stance based just off your observation on Oscar Isaac alone. 💜
Oscar Isaac is a good example, because he also played anglosaxon characters(literally played Kin John in Robin Hood) and could easily "pass" as a southern european, which at the time the novel was written were also considered exotic, dark skinned and "not white"(as in: not equal to anglosaxons and nordics).
I agree that the actor they casted sort of looks too anglosaxon to be "othered" the way he was in the novel, but he could pass as an italian, euro jew or spaniard or even roma, which are all "white" ethnicities that were considered part of a different race at the time.
I don't know what US people have in their heads, but roma and middle eastern people not only are part of the caucasian group, but they 100% look like your average southern european. So I don't understand this argument that all europeans are rosy pale blondes so any mention of "dark skin" must mean "person from sub-saharian Africa".
Literally any greek or italian could fulfill the role of Heathcliff, including the othering and racist bits, since at the time anyone that wasn't a pale english person from England (not Ireland lol) or a german or a nordic, was basically considered sub-human.
making the characters darker does not automatically make them interesting
Well stated.
"Talk dark and handsome" never meant men of color in historical literature.
Last year may Aunt (for whom I was the primary caregiver) wanted a DNR. I don’t know if this is just a Canadian thing - but we were given a sheet with 5 or 6 options of DNR - levels of resuscitation she’d want. It took us days to discuss it and we ultimately asked her doctor what she thought. I liked having the levels - even if it was confusing to set up.
The real tell is the fact that most doctors don't want those measures for _themselves._ That tells you everything.
American medical worker in a geriatric setting, here: that sounds like a dream, tbh. The POLST form I've seen is a front and back document - I don't know if that's just because of my setting, or if that's standardize across America, but I think it should take more information that could fill up more pages. I'd be interested to see what a Canadian document looks like in comparison, but first I'll research DNR forms in America....
I 100% support bodily autonomy, including end of life and have some personal experience with it. One thing I'd warn of is that it's just a piece of paper. If a crisis happens, it's a crap shoot on if even a very detailed and explicit DNR will hold sway. From a very cold point if view, few medical staff or facilities will be sued over saving someone's life. Letting someone die inappropriately? That's a giant lawsuit. I'm not saying medical personnel _want_ to disregard these choices, but if things get crazy and if there is _any_ question as to the patient's wishes, they will err on the conservative side, which is "save the life."
It's unbelievable that we don't have something equivalent to that in the U.S. - but at the same time hardly surprising at all given how woefully inadequate or messed up everything is here.
I'm in California and my dad got a similar paper to fill out that gave options on what to do for specific scenarios
I feel for the families and patients with DNRs when things go wrong, but I find it impossible to ask people who dedicate their lives to saving others not to do what they can in an emergency. The training probably kicks in automatically when they see someone in these situations.
The chat about open AI makes me so depressed. It's as if society just collectively forgot all the creatives were massively exploited by these companies. Now they are looking to go for profit, of course....
Doc straight up admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor, editing his statement three times before all together deleting it, claiming he was playing 4d chess. Regardless the reasons he was removed from twitch, he was banned with a massive contract. His own gaming company cut ties with him as well. RUclips cannot, in good standing, allow him to remonitize his channel. It will set a bad precedent moving forward for other creators who pull this shit then say “fooled ya.”
anyone still supporting him is either ignorant of the situation or a complete clown.
You goofballs have selective bias, "NOTHING ILLEGAL" seems to escape your purview.
I made this exact point last week. Crazy he can remonetized anywhere. Fact is whether he was "charged" or not he
Admitted to doing it
Edited it
Claimed he was playing chess and everyone "fell" for his troll.
No idk about you but who tf thinks it's a smart idea, when your facing both career and life as you know it ending accusations, to "troll" about being an uncharged pdf
Absolutely. He is trying to play it off like he was talking casually to a 17 yr old in a place where the age of consent is 16, putting it in the legally grey area..... but legally grey isnt morally grey. Even if thats the case (Which would just about be the best case scenario), he would be an old man trying to sext a teen. Full stop.
@@crusixangel9513 The Doc shit is definitely sus, but I hope they leak those DMs. I think his chances of getting remonitized is high if he doesn’t get those leaked.
If you have to use the phrase "age of consent" to defend yourself beyond the age of 19, they're too young. I hope YT never gives his monetization back.
The should be in jail and his viewer on a watch list
You people are so uptight.
@@stankythecat6735so because we know you’re a weirdo if you use the age of consent to make yourself feel better we’re uptight? Didn’t realize making sure children and teens don’t get taken advantage of is uptight thought it was the bare minimum 😂
Someone think of the children! Lol😂
@@stankythecat6735 No, those people just don’t like old adults talking to people who aren’t able to legally drink yet. Also finding loopholes in laws for ages in consent because that’s morally wrong to a good number of people.
The story with the DNR reminds me of the joke with the religious man who prays to God to save him from a flood. Then he waits. Anybody that floats past and offers to take him to safety, he just replies “no thanks, God is going to save me! 😊”… …like somehow the doctors managed to miss the DNR despite the family being present and very aware of it, and save her life. So maybe, possibly, potentially, there’s a small chance that God decided it wasn’t her time? 🤔
Edited to add: the lady didn’t go to hospital for palliative care, they didn’t even know how far along the cancer was. The order says “do not resuscitate”, not “do not intervene”. If she was fighting them to the point they had to restrain her, does that even count as resuscitation?? I used to work as a carer and one client had a DNR up on her fridge and made sure it was the first thing staff saw when we visited, she wasn’t playing around. But I still had to administer her medication on my visits 😂 you don’t just sit and watch them fade away.
As someone with breast cancer, I was recently hospitalized for sepsis. (And FYI, I'll fight to live to the last!) But I was asked an INORDINATE amount of times if I "wanted to be saved if things went sideways" aka DNR. They asked constantly. YES, I'm here for medical saving! Please keep me alive!
May you be well, healthy, blessed and at peace! Miracles happen every day❤️🫂✨ I hope that the past tense of your comment means you’ve made it out of the hospital. You’ve got this. Purple haired people aren’t weak. 😁
you'd be surprised by the amount of the people who come to hospital not to be treated
@@ertsec most people would be, true. So so so many people are brought in because SOMEONE ELSE called 9-1-1 or forced/coerced them to be treated. They decline tests, refuse medications and interventions, and attempt (generally successfully) to leave "against medical advice". But the catch is, when someone in the care team makes any sort of judgment about diminished capacity, a lot of these rights to decide for themselves are stripped or ignored, sometimes rightly and sometimes wrongly.
I’m so sorry you’re going through that.
I tell them i want to live, i have been in a coma it wasnt that bad.😅
If only Adams was a supreme court justice. Then he would be fine.
Was gonna comment something to this effect. Succeeding at corruption is just a matter of being important enough.
If he never spoke against the Illegal Immigrant Crisis, he would've been fine. The backlash seems to come when you speak against "The Narrative"
Exactly what I was going to comment.
@@jvd3339Yea immigrants have a ton of power and political influence here. They aren’t the ones with the least amount of resources and influence at all. Maybe it’s just the kind of people that label immigrants a “crisis” are more likely to be bad people.
@@jvd3339 First time i've seen a lobotomy patient type
I work at a retirement community--independent living, so no nurses or anything. However, residents passing away is something we deal with more often than we would like. I remember hearing about a resident who passed away shortly after I started working there. He had a DNR but they couldn't find it, so they were using the defib for what I hear was almost 2 hours before it was located. Which I think was a crazy amount of time even assuming he didn't have one at all. While it felt like an eternity, I think EMS tried maybe 45 minutes with my mother before taking her to the hospital so she could officially be pronounced dead.
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This doesn’t have enough likes lol
I mean, he segments every story so this isn't necessary
@@ronswanson1410 wasn’t segmented for me.
@@ll2323 Check again?
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At the hospital I work at in Canada we have different levels of DNR. DNR-Basic, DNR-restricted, Comfort. Where each level has different levels of care that patient would be comfortable receiving with comfort often being our palliative patients that we don’t offer blood work or active treatment for.
TBH that sounds terrifying because KISS is essential for emergency situations where people aren't thinking straight
To be fair, if I had a DNR - I would have it drafted with explicit language for what I do, or do not accept
@@ertsecI'd assume that in the vast majority of cases when a dnr is relevant the person is already in a situation (hospital,hospice, home care, etc) where anyone that would be responding is already aware of what is expected
This story and my history with my mom's DNR is making my want to assign a power of attorney for these worst case scenarios instead of a single document that tries to cover all situations. Do you know if this viable?
@@Spiker985Studiosit’s not something that is drafted, it’s literally just a normal form you check boxes on. I assume if you’re super rich or something you might be able to do that, but it’s definitely not what is usually done. Believe me, I signed mine last year.
My mother didn't have a DNR but she had a cardiac arrest for almost 30 minutes when a nurse started resuscitating her, leaving her brain dead and eventually dying a week later. It was extremely traumatic for our whole family, and it made all my mother's worst fears as a person with chronic illness come true.
It's crazy how Dr. Disrespect can just straight up admit to being a creep messaging minors and still get so much support when coming back
Because thinking hes a creep based on literally nothing exposes yourself
@@Digger-Nick he literally admitted to it you knob
@@Digger-Nick He admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor. What are you on about? He exposed himself, just like how you exposed yourself thinking nothing is wrong with that...
@@Digger-Nickhope u ain’t got kids diddler
plenty of people in hollywood are creeps and we go watch their movies, im sure there are gouls in the music business and people still listen to the music. i can separate the performance from the performer.
My mom was very sick for years before she passed in 2018. She had several surgeries and treatments and nothing was working. While she was still concious, as her medical proxy, I spoke with her and we agreed together, with the support of the rest of the family, that a DNR was appropriate. One night in intensive care, the doctor on shift advised that we were probably at that point and we signed paperwork and decided to just make her comfortable, but not do any "heroics" to ultimately extend her suffering. We were at peace with that and just wanted to spend whatever time we had left with her. In the morning, a new doctor was on shift and talked to me and my sister, demanding to know what we were thinking and basically accusing us of trying to kill our mother. I pointed out how every organ in her body was shutting down and her colleague signed off on our decision just 12 hours ago. She hotly shot back at us "I am trying to save your mother, what are you doing??" I stormed out of the hospital and refused to speak to her again. Mom passed a week later, but now even 6 years on, that doctor's name has burned a hole in my brain. If I'm ever in the hospital and she's the only doctor on, I'll get up and walk out. I never want to see her again. She made what was one of the worst weeks of my life so much harder.
I’m really sorry that happened and that you and your family had to go through that.
@@HurricaneDDragonthank you ❤
As a Dr she should know how much your mom was suffering and not want to needlessly put her through more pain. I'm so sorry you had to go through that on top of dealing with the loss of your mom :'( I hope you're doing better now 💝
My father in law has pancreatic cancer and was in the hospital this past summer for a blood clot. We didn’t know that he had a DNR until we were with him in the cardiac ICU before his surgery and they asked him about his wishes. My husband and I were both surprised to hear his wishes but he has the same mindset of many of the people in these stories, “I’ve made peace with God and when He’s ready for me, I’ll go.” It’s definitely hard to hear from someone you love but it makes a lot of sense too.
How is it DNR if the adult called for doctors to help her mother who complained about not being able to breathe? the doctors did the right thing
100% agree with this. Ambulances are incredibly expensive for a reason, you’re getting a mobile mini-hospital with a team of highly trained medical professionals called to your house. To call an ambulance and let them bring you to the hospital and then get mad when they do what ambulances and hospitals do is incredibly selfish and stupid.
I get the whole DNR thing, but if they REALLY believe in that then commit to it. The fact that we have people being traumatized from getting their lives saved is such a first world problem.
I was thinking the same thing.
No they did not. Obviously the normal human reaction is to say I can’t breathe but she signed that paper a d they VIOLATE HER WISHES and robbing her of the end she chose
@@elodieelvira7913 But her daughter went to get help... because her mother couldnt breathe. If thats the case, Daughter is at fault, not the doctors. They did their job. Daughter violated those wishes.
This! Don’t ask for something you don’t want. Did she think the staff was going to “help” by placing a pillow over her mother’s face and hold it there until she stopped moving?
So a guy admits to being sexually explicit with a child, and for some reason he is able to try and make a come back? Wtf is this world.
Not once did he ever admit to that and that's clearly why you're unable to provide proof to back up your lies.
@@Digger-Nick lmao are you blind?
@@Digger-Nick begone troll
@@Digger-Nick He literally admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor and then tried to cover his ass by editing it after. And if they weren't sexual in nature, why in tf would he even bring up age of consent as a defense for himself? Do you need him to explicitly say it? Are you that braindead?
@@Digger-Nick You're willfully being a jackass at this point.
My grandmother had a DNR. She went into cardiac arrest while being transferred from one hospital to another. We gave all the staff her medical paperwork and even told them she had a DNR, but they still preformed CPR on her in transit. They cracked her sternum and broke 3 rips, puncturing a lung. She had to be put on life support for a week while my mom and her siblings had to decide to pull the plug or not. We did everything we could to make sure everyone knew and they STILL tried to “save” her life. Instead of my grandmother passing as peacefully as possible, they made her final moments excruciatingly painful, terrifying, and violating. I don’t wish that on anyone and I hope we get a future where this rarely happens.
On the DNR topic, I've seen the shift both in the field and in the hospital to if the DNR is not in your hand, mean the original with signatures, not a copy, not a picture, not a word of mouth of the family, even a last second utterance of the patient. The DNR DOES NOT EXIST(even with digital charts, you still need the original on paper). I have worked in both prehospital EMS and in an ED for the better part of the last 20 years. The example case is also a horrible one as even if the DNR was known and in place, the daughter asking for help puts it in a gray area as it can easily be seen as superseding the order
Yea, when he said DNRs were simple I was like this dude has never had to deal with one in real life
Right? I’ve seen many cases with DNR where a family member who is in charge of their health as well , mandates for them to resuscitate. It’s crazy here that the daughter fought it after literally asking for help
@@BigLizzard2 recently got the lasting power of attorney for my parents (I'm German so it's probably a bit different).
It also includes an DNR under specific circumstances and clarifies that I do not have the power to overrule the DNR, so this situation wouldn't happen.
@@Random-Saurusthat’s awesome that where you’re from you have to respect the DNR. Unfortunately that’s not the case in the USA. I have had to start cpr on a 96 y/o because the family didn’t respect the parents wishes.
Flex on em Phil 💪
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I felt he’s been doing that with sponsors parts these last few days
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Kinda cringe tbh
My grandfather was a DNR that got CPR and a ventilator. The end result was him suffering even more in his last days from the broken ribs and the tube than he would’ve from letting the sepsis cause that cardiac arrest and end his life… and he never recovered. After a few days of clear pain on the vent, he came off for several hours of labored breathing. It was honestly the most inhumane thing they could’ve done.
Something about that DNR story confuses me, the daughter saw her mom was motioning that she couldn't breath and called in the doctors wanting them... to do what exactly? Not intubate her clearly, then what? Why call them in? Why not reiterate to them the DNR to avoid confusion over what help you actually want for her not breathing? DNRs are confusing because what someone does or doesn't want done is very individual and it makes sense drs would err on the side of keeping you alive. Like if all she needed was some albuterol would she want it or is that interfering with her natural death too?
When my grandma was near her end she had a DNR but it was more about no CPR and not being hooked up to machines to live but intubation doesn't always involve a ventilator. Meanwhile my friends mom has a DNR, doesn't want intubation, recently went to the ER struggling to breath and now needs to be on an oxygen machine the rest of her life and shes totally fine with that.
DNR does not equal DO NOT TREAT. There were many interventions that could have been taken prior to intubation in a post-procedure respiratory distress situation.
There are treatment measures you can give to patients with a DNR order in respiratory distress that don’t violate the order (BiPAP, nebulized medications, etc). If these weren’t working and intubation was the only option, care could then be withdrawn.
Well, it's understandable to be panicked in such a situation.
@@biancadeetThe patient would still, very likely, die in distress as she suffocated.
And there is definitely need for discussions that also involve hospital staff to see how willing/comfortable staff is being told not to provide help in a life or death situation when the patient is clearly struggling
I believe that the daughter likely told them, because she wants them to know what's happening. Imagine your elderly mother dying, knowing that she's been miserable in her last days, but you don't want to be blamed for neglect, or worse, being blamed for killing them. You just want the medical professionals to know what's happening, so they can at least confirm what is happening. It's also extremely conflicting since you want what's best for your loved ones, but you also don't want them to suffer. DNR doesn't necessarily mean that you can't at least make them comfortable as they pass on.
I don't understand the DNR lady, she wants God to determine what happens to her, why even bother going to the hospital to get the cancer tracked? She knew she had cancer, she wanted nature to take its course, why didn't she just stay home??? It's unfair to put the blame on the doctors/nurses when they see her daughter panicking and YELLING FOR HELP when you supposedly don't wanna be revived? They were trying to help you! Unfair to want it both ways.
I think it's very likely they just don't want resuscitation because they are kinda low-key wanting life to end. There is a huge difference between "do you sometimes want to die?" vs "do you sometimes wish to go to bed but never wake up?" (suicidal vs tired), and I imagine that with age and ails the latter become much more (and more often/longer) of a "yes". Meaning that they don't want to die (nor further degraded QoL), so they seek medical assistance. But once they actually fall into an eternal sleep? They just don't want it disturbed.
Then there is also the obvious - resuscitation carries the risk of permanent ails even if it succeeds. While they might be religious - or simply not suicidal - they nevertheless might also not want to live with a worse QoL. And so figure that if it happens, just let it, and don't bother with the hassle of all that extra pain.
Finally, there are some that truly do it for religious reasons. But at that point you have to ask "why they draw some line wherever they drew it?" and point out the hypocrisy in any answer.
Cancer is painful, she wanted the pain to go away. In her mind God determines WHEN her heart stops beating, but it is up to her to do whatever it takes to stay alive and more importantly not be in pain. She also mentioned suicide; for her kind suicide prevents you from going to heaven.
dying of cancer without supportive care can be incredibly painful and slow. i'm sure she wanted to be spared that kind of suffering, even if the line between what god intended and didn't is blurred. besides, that phrase has many interpretations and i think most folks who believe in it are still getting regular medical care. what counts as what god intends is different for everyone.
@@tinycatfriendthat still doesn’t justify her gesturing to her daughter that she couldn’t breathe and then asking for medical assistance! What the hell were they going to do? Ignore her pleading???
my guess is to get pain medicine. just because you're ready to die or know you're about to, doesn't mean you would want it to be a slow or painful experience. You can have symptoms/pain treated still without fully going through a life saving surgery for example.
My mom has a DNR she has it tattooed on her wrist that if she’s unconscious for over 72hrs to pull the plug. Glad she made it very straight forward and my heart goes out to people that need to have the more detailed conversations about their care
Dr Disrespect inappropriately texted a minor. He admitted it. It doesn't matter if it was legal or not. He should not be allowed to be "uncancelled" IMO.
@@pStabs straight white guys are un cancelable. They can do anything and their audiences will defend them. like defends like.
It's like pro Jared . Everyone was like "everyone was legal it's fine!" But he was specifically targeting fans... THATS CREEPY! He has to have a power dynamic to be happy? WTH...
Curious to know, what do you expect him to do? Do you expect him to be banned for ever getting any job (and have to live off the state) or just ban him from social media jobs because of his influence?
If it's the first, are you happy knowing that you will have to foot the bill for him?
Not defending what he's done, just curious
@@penfold-55I honestly don't really care what he does.. he just shouldn't have people still backing him, it's disgusting, I don't have any leniency for pedos
@@penfold-55 he shouldn't have a platform. If he had admitted he did it, that it was wrong and said he was working on himself fair enough. But he doubled down on being a creep
It's been years since I read Wuthering Heights but I think there could be problematic issues regardless of whether a white or romani person plays Heathcliff. Remember that WH was written by a white woman. The book itself is not particularly flattering to Heathcliff's character. I used to remark to my English teacher that it was not a story about love, but about hate and vengeance. Heathcliff was horribly abused, rebuffed by Catherine, then the rest of the story is about him cruelly taking vengeance not only on those who directly hurt him, but punishing and harming their children as well. So unless they made massive changes to the overall story (which I personally wouldn't mind) I don't see how "Romani child abused by white adoptive family comes back for vengeance against their children" wouldn't be problematic itself (once again, remembering the story was written by a white woman in the 1800s, sooo not surprising)
THIS^
I understand a want for the role to be accurate, but Brontë realllyyyyy leans in to the “savage/animalistic” stereotypes of anyone who is not White. Having the moral backbone of the novel describe Heathcliff’s character in such a racist way does not bode well for casting a person of color for the charactor. I feel like if you just want to make the class commentary, a white man is fine? But I also feel like I would have trusted this director to use a little bit of nuance?? Idk what the solution is for an adaptation, but this doesn’t feel like the best option…
@@hannahstrashcan RIght?! Like, I can MAYBE picture a really interesting and subversive rewrite where the story is more from Heathcliff's perspective as a romani child potentially ripped from his community (we never really get the story of HOW this white man just waltzed home with a romani child) but I don't know that I would trust that kind of rewrite to anyone who wasn't romani themselves, ya know?
My father-in-law was hospitalized earlier this year, they discovered cancer throughout his body to the point they stopped looking, immediately put him in hospice, and when he started to code, the staff began to resuscitate only to stop when one of the Nurses noticed "DNR" written on his arm. No one knew, not my sister-in-law or the hospital until they saw that, and then had to explain to my SIL they couldn't assist him. It came as a shock to all of us, and he passed shortly after.
The DNR thing... why would the daughter call for help if you don't want it? And then get mad when you.... GET HELP? Where is the logic in that? Were they all supposed to just KNOW within 90 seconds that she had a DNR? For a routine checkup? Give me a break.
I'm sorry she's living like that, it must have been a hard thing to witness, and may be even harder to live through, but passing the blame onto the medical staff **YOU** ASKED TO HELP SAVE HER LIFE is utterly ridiculous.
I'm a Doctor working in America, when someone is having shortness of breath as this patient had described, there are several things that can be done that is considered NON-invasive to help with the symptoms. As others have said above, Bipap (non-invasive ventilation), albuertol (a nebulized medication that helps open up airways), sometimes even a little bit of IV ativan can help (anxiety can be a driver for the sensation of difficulty breathing). If despite these efforts, it is clear that the patients respiratory status is declining and the only option available is intubation (aka breathing tube in lung) then another discussion has to be had on implimenting comfort measures and allowing the patient to pass naturally. So just because you have a DNR, DOESN'T mean you cant get some form of NON-INVASIVE treatment to help your symptoms.
Obviously I don't know the exact situation for this woman, but I have found sometimes that it is hard for docs to just throw their hands up and say that there isn't much else to offer, especially if there is someone right in front of you actively in crisis. It is a much easier conversation to have if a patient is slowly declining over the span of several days in the hospital and family members are actively witnessing this decline, but in an acute setting it can be hard. Just my 2 cents.
@@robinhatch1187 I totally agree. Asking for help is always fair and warranted, and just because someone doesn't want resuscitation doesn't mean they want to suffer. There is a lot that we can do, including helping them pass away comfortably. It is natural and human for people to call out for help while in distress, and it also doesn't mean we need to go against anyone's wishes. There's always nuance.
politicians try not to be corrupt challenge *LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE*
Bernie Sanders?
@@robertdietz1732he hasn't done anything besides running and quitting even when everyone was with him. I think he was just trying to get as many people to vote for the left as possible before he switch to the real candidate running for president
@@Dave_of_Mordor yep…no corruption charges as of yet. He’s doing the impossible!
@@Dave_of_Mordor"before he switch to the real candidate.."
What? Wanna retake 1st grade English and try that sentence again? What are you even trying to say, what does "switched to the real candidate" mean to you?
He didn't switch, genius. The DNC chose somebody else (Hillary) to be the Democratic nomination. That wasn't a choice he made, I don't know why you would think it was unless you're just kinda dumb and not really paying attention.
He could have run as an independent. Go on, go look up the statistics about how well independents do in US presidential elections.
FFS if you're too lazy to actually know what you're talking about then maybe just keep your uninformed opinion to yourself.
@@robertdietz1732 he tricked the left so we can vote for someone else to take his place. That's unethical
The DNR situation is so much more complicated and difficult than people understand. If you have a medical emergency that is causing cardiac or respiratory arrest, they call a "Code blue" often simply called a code/coding. This will cause a ton of people from all over to drop what they're doing and come running as fast as possible to start administering emergency care. A lot of proper procedure is skipped, like checking medical records, because every second counts. I forget the exact statistic, but I think it's something like every 10 seconds without CPR drops your survival chances by 10%. So it is pounded into every medical providers head that they need to work as fast as possible.
Your personal doctor and/or nurse SHOULD know if you have a DNR and thus not call a code blue, but if your emergency happens while they're busy helping someone else, you'll get the closest nurse/doctor who won't be familiar with your medical record and will thus react as they've been trained. Or your nurse/doctor could simply forget in the heat of the moment. If you're not in the ER or ICU a code is fairly uncommon so they may default to their basic training.
This issue is part of why I'm a proponent of physician assisted suicide for the terminally ill who desire it. When I go out, I want it to be calm and graceful on my own terms rather than suffering and slowly waiting for an illness to claim me.
As someone with a DNR and DNI (at 29, so I’m more likely to be resuscitated) the story about Cooper is TERRIFYING. I already live in agony everyday. I’m currently typing this message from a hospital bed and my palliative care doctor explicitly asked me what I wanted for this hospital visit when I was admitted. They already have my DNR on record and he still doubled checked EXACTLY what I want. Everyone deserves a doctor like mine, but I’m on of the lucky few. This system needs to be written more clearly, and even then , it needs to be reviewed upon every hospital/doctor office visit!
Um, do you have a permit for those guns, Phil?
Dayum!!
Ak-47s are illegal so he can't get a permit.
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Serious... we need a fitness update on the thrist trap that he is....
fun fact. his best friend runs one of youtubes biggest gun pages
Huh ?
My mom had a DNR after she went into hospice. When she died, we had to call 911 to report her passing since she had actually graduated out of hospice and died two weeks after. When the dispatcher tried to get us to do CPR, we explained that she was already gone and had a DNR so we would not do CPR. Thank God we had it because when the cops came, they questioned my brother and I separately. My mom wanted to die at home, she wanted to pass and knew it was her time. No one should have that choice taken away from them.
I never liked Adams. He seemed like a Dem similar to Manchin. Pretty conservative and barely a Dem. He was always shady as hell and I definitely was surprised he got elected. I think it was mostly name recognition and being an officer. Unfortunately, people just seem to vote based on team red or blue and who they know. He needs to step down.
That is some serious mental gymnastics, to try and disassociate your party from somebody 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, you've got a point about "People just seem to vote Team Red or Team Blue", but it kinda falls flat after your first point; it can easily be seen as you just trying to protect Team Blue.
Both points, alone, are fair enough statements, but when you put them together it just looks like you're doing the defensive version of the action you're condemning.
@@BC-ny3zb not really. There's a pretty obvious split between progressive and establishment Dems (with the latter basically supporting the Republican policies of the 90s-00s). Dem voters overwhelmingly support the progressives.
This in contrast to republicans, who tend to be on the same Paige despite their disagreements.
Democracts are nothing but Liberal Republicans just look at who their donors are and how they treat third party members or independents
The parties put up whoever and that's your only choice
I'm a doctor working in the ED currently and saw, just a couple of days, ago a successful resuscitation of a patient (using CPR and defib pads) who had signed a DNR on a previous admission, but not during the current one. The decision to continue resus in these vague or ambiguous situations is often because it's seen as the "safer" option medicolegally - alongside some of the other factors you mentioned.
It can be hard to decide in these high-pressure situations and often the decision comes down to "how sure are we that we could defend this in coroner's court" rather than "what do we think is in the best interest of the patient"
Both have their place, especially since the medical community has a less than ideal track record of making decisions for patients that they wouldn't necessarily agree with.
So sorry to this woman and her family for the suffering caused by the medical staff's intervention here.
They are servants, they need to do as they are told.... how many souls did you fucked over by peddling the lastest "get rich quick schemes" from bigpharma?
She did this to herself over an idea she only held onto out of spite. Why would she go to see how bad her cancer was if she truly believed that when it was her time to go, she should just go to meet god? The logic would follow that all doctor intervention is messing with God's plan. She's either incredibly stupid (to the point of needing supervision by others) or she never really believed that at all.
EMT here, while I can't speak for the hospital side of things as well. I can confirm that we follow a very similar mentality to the comment above. Whenever we're in that situation when we are not sure about whether a DNR is present for a patient. We are generally going to move with the assumption that resuscitation is necessary unless someone can present the DNR paper to us. That being said we are usually on site at a person's residence when this happens.
I would also point out that sometimes the situation is stressful and there are a lot of factors we are considering. Among the slew of thoughts and considerations I can sometimes see the error of forgetting to ask about a DNR or investigating it. Sometimes in the moment we blank out on that information when there's other concerns filling our mind and we default to what we believe to be the safest option in the moment.
My heart goes out to everyone who has to deal with these moments.
this was not the fault of the medical staff it was her own daugther that called for help instead of just letting her die like she wanted
What am I supposed to do if I want my DNR to be permanent then? Tattoo it on my chest? This is terrifying
My grandpa had a DNR. He and my grandma made a promise when they were younger that they would respect each other's DNRs to ensure neither of them ever had to make a life-or-death medical decision.
When he was dying, he held out till all the family had seen him. He waited till night when the nurses came around less and took out his IVs and breathing tube. He wanted to die on his terms (he had a few days at best).
The nurses immediately started life-saving measures. My grandma then had to agree to take him off life support a few hours later. It was devastating for the whole family, but especially my grandmother, who was left to make that decision.
This story about the DNR orders hits really close to home for me. Last year we had to make that very difficult choice for my father after he suffered a stroke, he had always made his wishes abundantly clear to myself and others throughout his life that he never wanted to live a life where we could not live without machines or caregiving.
In our case, the doctors were extremely understanding about those wishes and even supported our decision knowing what kind of quality of life he would have should they try to resuscitate him. It seems like that type of training is not ubiquitous throughout the healthcare industry and it's really frightening to think what it would be like having to suffer or watch a loved one suffer against their wishes.
I don't understand the "when it's time to go, it's God's choosing, not hers." Isn't resuscitation or reviving someone only possible if god allowed it to happen?
Don't think about it, they certainly didn't
1. A man will not change, at least for the better, unless he is set on fire. And his fans will just get more radicalized.
2. Hold up, hold up, might be a minor detail but "couldn't afford fees for her ankle monitor"? What the heck? People have to pay for their own punishments? Like, what the fuck is that about? She's already suffering the consequences by wearing the ankle monitor. Now they're going to put her in an even more vulnerable position by adding fees on top of that, possibly forcing her back into criminal activity to be able to afford it since people with records don't get hired anywhere?
My grandmother had a DNR. During COVID lockdown she was in a nursing home when she fell from her wheelchair, and hit her head. Due to covid restrictions they wouldn't send her for imaging and she ended up passing away from a slow brain bleed. I had a nurse try to...make me feel better?...about not getting to see my grandma before she died alone by saying "Well she had a DNR anyway so even if we saw something on a scan we wouldn't have done anything". 😐
That's not how those work ma'am. I work in healthcare and I have never been more disappointed.
Holy hell! This is probably the closest to home a Phil Segment has hit.
My parents are from Whitesburg, they grew up with the Sheriff.
From what my mom says, the word behind closed doors is that Mickey shot Mullins because Mullins had been, and I quote, "Fooling around with his teenage daughter."
Mickey was also planning on retiring soon anyway, so from my understanding that's what the actual town thinks happened, what my folks think happened anyway.
One of my besties has family from there and that’s the same rumor they heard. Time will tell!
I used to work in a care home and DNRs were vital. They were on the front page of every care plan and we had signage all over the home reminding us who had a DNR and who hadn't. We always had to respect the choice of the patient regardless of whether we agreed with them or not.
When my mother was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in late 2019 she signed a DNR. She was committed to fighting the cancer with everything she had and was even cancer free at one point. But pancreatic cancer is a bitch and she was unable to heal completely from her surgery. She passed out when my brother was visiting her at the beginning of July and was taken to the hospital. Her blood pressure was dangerously low and she was given fluids to bring it back up. She was in the hospital for a month and every day her attending would call me and say she was doing better but they kept pumping her full of fluids until she was bloated like a too full water balloon and she was leaking water from her skin. She wasn't able to pass the fluids. She told me she wished they would have just let her go that first week, that she was ready. She lived until the end of November. Lymphedema was what eventually killed her. The fluids kept accumulating until she drowned.
Her hospital had a pretty comprehensive DNR detailing what was acceptable and what was not. But as comprehensive as it was, it didn't include fluids to raise her blood pressure. She suffered longer than she had to because of the hospital's intervention.
The issue is that if the hospital didn't 'intervene' (save her life) then they would be liable for her death.
The DNR issue is even more complicated than your story. In most states EMT's have to have a separate Dr.s order to honor a DNR, so most EMT's if called out will ignore your DNR without a letter or Doctor order telling them to honor it. I just went through this with my dad, very strong DNR on file with all the local hospitals but he fell and the EMT's were gonna do all sorts of stuff unless/until I got his Doctor to tell them not to. Then, even at the Emergency Room, I had to go round and round with the on call Doctor there NOT to have them do a ton of tests, including a CRT scan - pulling out the Doctor order and the DNR and literally asking for his boss to get on the phone. $1000s of dollars of unnecessary tests for my dad, who was in the final stages of Parkinsons and under hospice care! The system is fucked up.
A DNR order doesn't mean you can't get testing and other medical interventions done. That isn't the function of a DNR. In your case it makes much more sense to not have things done for your dad as he was enrolled in hospice. But even under this circumstance, a discussion should be had with the docs taking care of your dad so that everyone is in agreement that you and your family do not want any further testing or interventions done on dad. Unfortunately, the DNR papers (a MOLST form or POLST form) often do not encompass the finer details such as testing, non-invasive procedures etc... this just muddies the water for everyone. I'm a physician currently practicing in America so I can only speak from a physicians standpoint, I can't speak to how EMT's operate. Would like to hear from any EMT's out there!
Sorry for what you and your dad went through, unfortunately this happens too often 😞
As a Democrat, I am so glad Adams is getting indicted. Get this cop/cancer out of New York.
The fact that people are still tuning into Dr Disrespect shows how completely cooked we are as a society. The few of us who can see the writing on the walls (it's in blood.) are just absolutely mortified for the future...
I do wonder how many people have shown up just to see what, if anything he says. And then when the news cycle moves on a lot of those views drop. At least that's my own naive hope for what's going on.
I never cared for the guy, but on the contrary, I think that people not "cancelling" someone without being presented hard proof successfully tried in a court of law, shows society still hasn't conked entirely. And even then, I never think it is ok to extend a punishment beyond what was decided by law, as some kind of batman vigilante mob.
And while not relevant to this case, when society makes someone lose their job (even if convicted) they are the worst - as evidence has consistently and always shown that the stability provided by a job is the _best_ way to prevent recidivism.
@feha92 1. He admitted it 2. No one should feel obligated to stay fans of a predator charged or not 3. Its cute you still believe in the justice system
Look...no one really knows what happened and he wasn't arrested or law enforcement was never involved.....but there are far further evil examples that shows that society is cooked. Dr. Disrespects situation isn't even a blip on the evil radar. If you aren't going to allow anyone to make a mistake and learn from it...and then use that learning to influence others and open up discussion more...then I don't know what you expect out of life.
Go watch an episode of I survived and gain some perspective on what evil really is
@@feha92
Backing a celebrity that cheats on his wife and talks to little girls is not a positive sign for society.
I'm sorry you support pedophile celebrities.
I was in a VA hospital for a leg amputation because of an infection and it was a bit of an emergency due to sepsis. Before I went into surgery, I had the head nurse go over with me in detail, DNR info and the details of what would cause the DNR to go into effect. That felt like the right way to do it. The problem, she told me, with a DNR, is even if I had all the details down on documents, anyone who is my next of kin could come in and give different orders and they would have to throw all that out and do what they say as long as I was no longer competent.
Hmm i'm not sure this is entirely true. Generally, if a patient is hospitalized and has explicitly told healthcare personelle including doctors that they are a DNR and was in a lucid state when doing so, we honor those wishes. Even if later on in the hospitalization they became unable to make decisions on their own. But i'd have to look this up. To me it doesn't make sense, if you told me now that you wanted a DNR and completely understood what that meant, then tomorrow were unconcious for whatever reason, I would honor your wishes from the day before, even if next of kin didn't agree.
I work as a radiology technician in Sweden. I don't know if we have the same systemic problem with DNR but I will say it was pretty fussy at times when we had committed patients from the hospital. Sometimes we'd check some lab value to see if we could give full dose contrast media and in the corner of the programme window it says "0-HLR" (DNR). Sometimes the staff would tell us when we called them to send the patient down. I'm guessing at least half of the time we didn't know, and it certainly wasn't unheard of that CPR was started in our labs. It's happened to me several times during my 5 years working. It's not unthinkable they could be DNR patients when it happens but if we don't know we can't obviously take the chance or waste time finding out.
Why do people put so much stock in who celebrities support politically? Whether Taylor Swift or Bad Bunny, it just boggles my mind that people care so much about what celebrities think. They’re people, just like us. They aren’t divine entities or anything. We, as a whole, have a serious problem with idolization.
Because whether you like it or not celebrities have a lot of influence and power most people probably know more about Taylor Swift than they do about any politician in the running their words and actions have legit sway on the way of the world at times
@@mythos6308 IIRC a lot of celebrities endorsed Clinton in 2016, but Trump won anyway.
@@aze94Because of the electoral college. Which essentially says, it doesn't matter if you technically have more people voting for you.
@@aze94because we were all too young to vote in 2016, that’s why biden won in 2020 because the youth vote was actually finally old enough to vote. critical thinking matters!
Oh no! An NYPD cop turned politician is corrupt. Who would have thought?
NYPD Politicians and corruption like three peas in a pod
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Dems gonna Dem I guess
@@DanielBlak folks gon' have their political alliances, and that's fine. But to profess that political corruption is a problem of 1 particular party is pure delusional behavior.
My grandfather was taken to the hospital from a nursing facility, before family could get there. He had an extra band with his hospital ID. When my Aunt just happened to ask about it, she was told “it’s for his DNR.” My grandfather did not have a DNR. This was at a well known hospital in a major US city. Things like that could contribute to doctors’ decisions on what medical choices to make.
Both in the medical field as a nurse aid and was POA for my grandmother who had a DNR. I’ve seen questions being raised even over helping someone who was choking because they were a DNR (yes, we helped) as well as stories of CPR being done on very dead people because the Dr didn’t sign the DNR so we had to “try”.
I feel like with a DNR you also need a good Power of Attorney who will respect your wishes and advocate for you. (And, for the record, just because you have one named doesn’t mean they get any “power” until you or a doctor signs off on it that you’re not in a position to make your own decisions.) Then I will admit to being one that believes we should have the right to die. If you know you have a condition that is terminal then you shouldn’t have to suffer for the rest of that life if that’s not what you want.
Solid margot Robbie clickbait when the story is about Jacob elordi and not her
My dad was very ill my entire life (chronic pain, addict due to pain killers and a plethora of other issues caused) and he had a DNR. in 2016 he had double pulmonary embolism and when the paramedics arrived my mom told them about it. They didnt listen snd and kept his heart beating. She grabbed the hard copy and went to the hospital to show the doctors. They had already put him on life support and she had to "pull the plug."
the family knew his wishes and it probably gave him undue stress and suffering until he was taken off of life support.
I know countless stories like this.
Interfacility Transport EMT of 8+ years here. The story and situation behind DNRs is incredibly nuanced and dangerous for everyone involved from the top down. Part of my job is getting patient information for people who are leaving the hospital and transporting them via ambulance where they need to go, be it another hospital, a nursing home, a hospice, or back to their residence. Not having a clear idea of whether or not a patient has an active and current DNR directly changes the dynamic of care we give and what we are responsible for. If I don't have a hard copy of the DNR, I have to assume there isn't one. At the end of the day, the litigation is not in my favor if I let a patient die and don't have a DNR to prove I was supposed to. That could end in not just me losing my license but criminal charges as well.
I have zero medical experience, but I was under the impression that DNRs are only valid within a hospital or medical facility because it's nearly impossibly to validate a DNR outside those areas. Which is why you can avoid trouble if you resuscitate a person with a DNR if you cannot validate it. Is there any truth in this?
@randomuch A "Do Not Resuscitate" order is valid throughout the entire patient care process, regardless of where they are. Unfortunately without having paperwork on hand, it makes it very difficult to justify legally allowing a patient to pass and not have it be proved as negligence in the courts. This isn't helped by the fact that each State has its own standard for what a D.N.R. is, and that doesn't include a potential federal-level interpretation of a D.N.R.
Paramedic for 16 years here.... DNR's exist outside of nursing and hospital facilities. For instance, a hospice patient who chooses to be at home with family. Here, the patient could have a DNR, DNI (Do Not Intubate), or a DNH (Do Not Hospitalize). The patients family or caregivers would be responsible for having this document readily available for any EMS that responds to the home. If they can't find it or something like that, we HAVE to assume their isn't one and render appropriate care. It sucks. Because I can't tell you how many times in my career... at a house, a nursing home, etc.... where it couldn't be confirmed one way or the other in all the chaos... so we initiate CPR, resuscitative medications, Intubation... only to have a nurse or family member suddenly find it. Here in NJ, as Paramedics, once we start we can't stop until a Doctor tells us to.
There needs to be a far better and more visible way to alert Medical personnel that there is a valid DNR in place. Otherwise, we will continue to have situations like this, where we take away their wishes.
@irishedawg agreed. I believe there was an initiative in recent years to add DNR status to a medical alert tag on patients who qualify but I'm unsure if that bore fruit.
@SonofSekhmet So in NJ, our curriculum teaches to look for medical alert necklaces, bracelets, tattoos.... people do get these things but it's far and few in-between. My personal opinion is it should be mandatory. If you sign a DNR, you should be required to wear a specific, very visible and accessible necklace. Because in a situation like this, where's the likely first place we're gonna access... the chest right? I mean outside of forcing Grandma to get a chest tattoo lmao, seems like the next best thing.
I studied Wuthering Weights for undergrad, and Heathcliff's ethnicity is hotly debated. He's likely half English and half South Eastern European. The book is intentionally vague on the topic, framing him as abstractly not English. So long as the new actor is convincingly "foreign", and does justice to the role, then I don't see an issue.
@@lukeytron I think people just don’t understand how the film industry works it’s a weird juxtaposition they are in. Because roles do have gender, height, race requirements at times. I think as long as people aren’t purposely being passed over or not given a chance to get a role. Then we have to cool it with the outrage
So they got an Australian to play him. Basically just a red neck English person... speaking as an Aussie of course
@@lukeytron also Romani people, if he really is Romani as that person claims, are white. Many have tanned or olive skin, but they are literally caucasian. Not even a race swap.
Considering the idea of his gypsy heritage (not that the article cited could even spell "gypsy" correctly) also makes his heritage obscure. As someone of Celtic gypsy heritage, its not about where you're from. Its about where you're not from; and that's anywhere you land. This is not about him not being depicted as a "POC", or modern contextual "racism". People lack the modern cultural nuance to understand what the treatment of those peoples has been and is like even today.
@@thefruch7588 I see the "outrage" as a natural balancing act. Minorities are under represented, it's a real issue, but as you say, it's a business. Media creators need to make money, need to hire the best talent, and find a balance of inclusion too. We will see failures of not enough inclusion, and failures of too much inclusion. Hopefully fairness can be found in the aggregate.
I am an RN with a background in ICU care. Since a “young” age I have had a DNR\DNI. I have seen too much as a nurse to want those kind of cares for myself. This decision is constantly challenged in my own medical care by other medical professionals. Thankfully I am my own best advocate, however a lot of people who don’t have medical backgrounds don’t know how/when to advocate for themselves on this issue. I would love to see the medical community make some changes about how and when this VERY important decision is discussed with the patient. I would also recommend sharing these types of experiences to the public so we can all be better informed about what these interventions are like to experience and what the chances of both a positive and negative outcome really look like.
The whole Wuthering Heights debacle is silly. this is like when white people say "tall, dark, and handsome" the dark in that phrase really just means a dude that tans well. in the case of a dude playing a romani man. yes, he could be a nonwhite person, but the romani people especially the ones living in England co-mingled and their descendants are very much white or white passing. the story takes place in england, the character is assumed to be born there. this casting isn't a stretch
My dad's first generation Romani here in the states and gets mistaken for middle eastern some times. I've got blonde hair and blue eyes and from my mom's side but I tan really well. Put us next to each other and it looks like some just changed some contrast settings. Same with most of my cousins we've even got a couple red heads.
The way I'm currently leaning, the main question is whether or not a modern audience will buy that someone who looks like Elordi might look foreign to the other characters. Maybe they will, I don't know. Maybe Elordi tans well?
In 1840s England Gypsu meant Irish Traveller not Roma even today it is used to describe all traveller groups
@@jonsouth1545 so white....
On the wurthering heights.. Romani people have a variety of skin and hair colours. They’re indo-aryan and have been in Europe since the 13th century. Some would be seen as white in the US without context. Some would not. There are Romani that look very similar to that actor but there are also some that look much more similar to their indo-aryan roots. This feels a lot like the frozen drama when people wanted a dark skinned Elsa because it was a Sami fairy tale. Most Sami have light olive skin but many are blonde. They have been in Europe for 2500 years. To ignore the variation and diversity of groups and uphold one stereotype is harmful.
Well said
I think a better comparison would be Snow White. Since both have a written original. Everyone wants the skin tones to match the text but that never happens in Hollywood.
If you meet British Romani gypsies they would all be considered white and their genetics will not have changed much in the last 200 years. Also, gypsies covers more groups than just the Romani people the UK, Irish travelers are also called gypsies and this dates back to 1800s.
I'm Swedish, Sami people has actually lived in Europe for around 10.000 years not 2.500. The ice melted in Scandinavia 10.000 years ago.
@@LemonBear007 that’s interesting. Most scholarly sources say 1600 B.C.E to 1500 B.C.E. If you have other sources I am always willing to have a look.
I do know there are sites from 10000 B.C.E. But there isn’t other data genetic or cultural to link those glyphs to the same group. Would be interesting if some were found. (Similar interest in population y sites and genetics in the americas)
I'm an ER nurse and last night the doctor and I literally almost put a breathing tube in a patient with a "Do Not Intubate" order simply because we weren't aware it existed. Luckily the doctor managed to get in contact with the family across the country and learn the patients wishes but we literally had the tube in our hands when she had called him back. All I can say is please know us nurses and doctors WANT to honor your wishes, but it's hard when the alternative to us being wrong (as in thinking there's orders when there aren't) is death.
Kentucky resident here. Literally everyone is saying the Judge was messing around with the Sherriffs 14 year old daughter, despite there being no evidence at all.
Ive seen that everywhere. Something about seeing something on the judges phone.
I think that my dad got lucky in regards to his DNR. I had the choice to decide on whether they resuscitated or not, but I could tell he wasn't going to make it, so I just let them try to bring him back. I can't imagine how his life would have changed for the worse if they were successful and able to sustain his life with a bad heart... As much as I needed more time with him, I wouldn't want him to be suffering through that time. It's life changing for so many, not just the patient. I couldn't imagine changing my life so much either... It's already unfathomable how people get their ducks in a row to make a funeral or service of some kind in order while dealing with all the grief. It's been a month and I'm still very lost.
I’m a therapist that works in nursing homes, and during my first month working I had a patient code unexpectedly. This was a Saturday and he had just arrived the night before, so he had not been seen by the doctor yet or any administration and so we did not have a code status sheet filled out. We knew from his hospital paperwork that he had requested to be DNR there but because we didn’t have our specific paperwork for our specific facility, we had to perform CPR. The nurse leading the code was crying while performing chest compressions because she knew this was not his wish. Maybe thankfully, I don’t know, but our efforts didn’t matter, and he ended up passing.
For DNRs the language and knowledge of them has absolutely changed. When I was having my first surgery at 16 nobody asked if I had one on file or if I didn't want any attempt at revival if something went wrong- nor did they ask my legal guardians. But when I went in at 38, they asked me twice, once at the appointment before the surgery, and once just before surgery. They also used very clear language: "Do you want us to attempt to resuscitate if you die on the operating table? Do you object to the use of CPR? In the event of a coma, who is allowed to make decisions on your behalf?" Honestly, that's what a DNR should say, explicitly, and you should be able to request one through your doctor and be able to update it at any time. I probably will want a DNR as I get older, simply because medical outcomes take a sharp dive past your 60's. But we need to do an overhaul of the obtaining and use of a DNR and the medical understanding of a DNR.
Philip is seriously getting jacked 💪
I had to do CPR on someone (thankfully did not have a DNR). 20 years of first aid training in the military and it would be in my apartment building I'd have to use it. Man's heart had stopped. Small galley kitchen and this was a BIG dude, so I could only do chest compressions. Dial 911 on speaker phone, start compressions, and I can tell you it was the longest 10 minutes and 38 seconds of my life. I felt every rib pop from his sternum to get his heart pumping. It's something you never forget. Once the adrenalin wears off, you just drop like you ran the Indy 500 on foot. It is hard on the body, and I'd respect any DNR, but if someone drops and I can help, Ima gonna help.
The fact DrDisrespect has been able to make a comeback at all is honestly shocking. if you send inappropriate messages to a minor, you just straight up shouldn't have a platform anymore.
And yet hot tub streamers on the same platform get away with worse everyday and not a peep from you.
@@Digger-Nick Comparing hot tub streamers to pdfiles is wild.
@@Digger-Nick They do worse than directly messaging minors inappropriately and admitting to it? Lol sure
@@Digger-Nick Those streams have 18+ requirements, apparently Doc's whispers don't! He was sexting a 16-17 year old.
Example? @@twerkules3957
My mother had a DNR, she had a brain aneurysm In 1994 (edited sorry wrong date), and was conscious writing things down on paper, like she wanted a cup of coffee, and a cig. Then she developed brain seizures, and the DR's thought they had them under control, and took her in to surgery, where she had a stroke, and they had to preform life saving procedures, my Dad asked them why they dd this with the DNR in place, they told him "Because she did not state which functions she was not willing to live with out IE: walking, talking, seeing, ect. My dad was pissed, after the stroke, she didn't know who any one was, and for months she was back to infant status, she couldn't walk, talk, feed her self, was in diapers, slowly she remembered who she was and who we (kids grand kids my dad) were, but she never ever regained what she lost. she had foot drop in her right limb and her left hand, froze in a fist curled up next to her shoulder, so if any one wants a DNR be sure put what you are willing to live with out, and now i guess clearly state which life saving medical things you will and will not, accept. My mom died in 2000.
Aneurysm in 04 but died in 00?
haha yeah she was a tough one, the drs don't know how she survived it either. No sorry my bad 1996 she live for 6 years. I will edit my original post.
Phil's interaction with his AI digital assistant refusing to read a text and then not shutting down when he told her to was one of the funniest (and perhaps scariest) things I've seen in a long time.
It’s absolutely ABSURD to me that a person can straight up admit to having inappropriate conversations with someone they knew was a minor, and yet can still have an entire community of brainless followers just pretend it never happened and loyally support him anyway.
I think too many people in our country have trauma from Trump and don't trust other people at some level. They hear "I don't endorse" her which is usually not followed up with "but I'm still voting for her" and it frightens them/triggers their fight or flight.
13:20 My Grandma had a DNR. She was an anesthesiologist, one of the first female ones in the area let alone the US. When her heart stopped they defibulated her until she was brought back. She was supposed to be brain-dead and "couldn't feel pain." As the doctor put his finger near her mouth, she went to bite him. Her body was horribly swollen. The whole thing was terrible. She passed away within the weak, but I definitely understand the pain you'd deal with having your loved one's wishes disobeyed.
Jacob Elordi looks like he could be Romani... in fact, the Basque, where he is ethnically linked has a lot of Romani people. Also, before there was "white people" Europeans were identified and experienced a different life from one another...
So let's pump the brakes on someone being cast in a role that they are most likely the ethnic background to begin with.
The whole "White" people thing is a very American concept. Yes, we have always had "white skin" as a trait that could be used to define us, but we Europeans don't really categorise based on that. We have our countries to go by, as well as smaller ethnic groups (such as Roma and Sinti people) or even regional ones (people from German Bavaria are NOT culturally the same as Germans from Hamburg or the Rhineland-Palatinate, as much as Americans love to glamourise Lederhosen.)
@@Windmelodie it's genuinely sad because they are living after the erasure of their ancestral culture and oblivious of it.
I may not be the biggest fan of Bad Bunny's music but I do applaud his attempts at making the mainland aware of the island's situation. "Una Velita" did light a fire under the NPP's butt before the billboards even went up since one of the lyrics is "The palm tree they want to use to hang the country, one of these days we'll take it down". Given that their logo is a palm tree, they knew that one was meant for them.
These local elections are set to be some of the messiest in recent history since we've had issues with voter registration, candidates having to go to court in order to stay on ballots, removing dead people from registration, broken voting machines, power outages, understaffed voting centers, CEE employees deliberately leaking people's information, allegations of vote tampering, hacks, generally being unprepared & worst of all, voter apathy. People feel ignored & like things won't change. It's very depressing.
It's true that PR's election this year consists of 5 parties. There have been years where it's been way more than that. The big three (aka the oldest surviving ones) are the Popular Democratic Party (1938 - Pro Associated Territory), the New Progressive Party (1967 - Pro Statehood), and PR Independence Party (1946). The other two at the moment are the Citizen's Victory Movement (2019 - Anticolonialism) and Project Dignity (2019 - Christian Conservatives). We also have some independent/write-in candidates, some of which have won legislative seats.
Most older voters in PR vote along status definition (Statehood, ELA, Independence) lines while younger voters focus on social issues but since 2016, the shift towards social issues as the main focus has begun to occur with mixed results. Despite that article you mentioned talking about Dalmau being received positively among young voters, the PIP has generally always had an image/messaging problem since it's inception, which is why it's historically never done well in the elections for governor. A governor from a party that has been known for being under federal surveillance & is tied to some of the island's most turbulent times in the 20th century while being linked to countries like Venezuela or Cuba is a hard sell. Both them & the PDP need a serious platform rebranding in order to poach older voters back from the NPP during this or any other election.
This year, the CVM & PIP decided to create an alliance that was later declared unconstitutional. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided to just fuse into one party during the 2028 cycle to avoid a repeat of that problem.
Do I think Dalmau & the PIP + CVM stand a chance in the election for governor? Probably not.
Will they get more votes than in 2020? Definitely.
Will they actually win more legislative seats? I believe it's possible.
Another important factor about this upcoming election is that they're trying to host another status referendum that exact day -something that both the PDP & PIP are known to boycott but brings out the Pro State crowd in droves. While I understand that they most likely did it to save costs, it's not the best way to be spending limited amount of resources at the moment for results that may or may not be accepted by the US Congress. If anything, I hope that they hire additional electoral staff during this month but that's probably just wishful thinking.
Thanks for commenting and your explanation and breakdown!
@@dirtysiouxsnooks33 Figured people would need it since this election cycle has indeed been crazy but this is all just surface level content. We've only been able to vote for Governor since 1948, a very short while ago considering that the island was a formal Spanish colony since 1500s before passing to the US in 1898. That's centuries of not having executive level representation & it shows in people's voting habits, even once they move to the US mainland.
I've read Wuthering Heights a few times throughout middle school, high school, and college. Each time I took a little something more from the book.
I understood Heathcliff to be "swarthy," which I interpreted as southern Italian, Greek, northern African, or Middle Eastern? I'm certainly not a scholar, but it was very clear in the book that he wasn't English.
If only Adam’s was on the Supreme Court he could’ve been fine
If only he was Biden and his son made a lot of money from foreign governments and we're never held accountable. Its a politician thing
imagine defending dr disrespect in anyway, like thats the hill you wanna die on? yikes
My absolutely badass Grandmother Mimi fought ovarian cancer for over 17 years. In and out of remission, seemingly countless rounds chemo and radiation. When the cancer came back the final time, my Mimi had already made the decision she was done. She discussed this with her doctors, and we talked about it as a family. I'm so glad that by the time her health and mental capacity started to decline the entire family, and her medical team were all on the same page and knew exactly what she wanted. The last few days of her life were spent in the hospital. The doctors kept us informed of all of our options (diagnostics / treatment) but differed completely to the family. They kept her comfortable and she passed away peacefully, the entire family surrounding her bed. There was no pain, no blaring alarms or codes. Conversations about death and your wishes are hard. But I can't imagine how much harder losing her would have been if we hadn't had that peace of mind, of knowing exactly how she wanted to go out.
In regards to the DNR segment, I commend the incredible restraint of the editing team in NOT using the clip from Pixars Incredibles "you didnt save my life, you ruined my death!"
The first thing that came to my mind too
DrDisrespect is a creep. Plain and simple the absolute BEST case scenario still has him having conversations that I imagine most people would not want their minor child having with an adult. The only way he can ever remove that stigma from a large portion of his fans, other streamers, and I'd hope any reasonable adult would be to release the actual chat logs showing what he actually did. Now let's not sugarcoat this, he absolutely has those logs because they would be part of his case against twitch, the NDA is broken so he is free to talk about it now and so we sit wondering if he wanted to show he was innocent completely, why not show the logs? The simple answer, it would do more damage than help which means it is at least somewhat bad.
I'm good, no DrDisrespect for me, he is a creep and I'll watch any streamer in the same space that refuses to work with him.
Creep, indeed. But he probably figured if minors are mature enough to make the permanent, life-altering decision to change their gender, then...
Mad respect for the time and effort you took to delve into the DNR story and honestly do a fantastic job summarizing what is an extremely complex topic
The DNR situation is rough. But... She wasn't dead when they inserted the breathing tube. So I'm not sure the resuscitated her, so much as didn't allow her to die in front of them.
Isn't that exactly what a DNR is for? "If it looks like I'm about to die in front of you, for fuck's sake, DO NOT HELP ME"
Insertion of a endotrachial tube is a form of respiratory resuscitation
@@genericfakename8197 so if you got shot and were bleeding out no bandages? No blood? The resuscitation bit taken literally I thought meant more like restarting the heart. So I agree they should legally classify it better. No CPR and no breathing tubes after a negative reaction during a planned procedure feel like two different things.
Most DNR orders also don’t allow for intubation
@@biancadeet fair enough. I did not know. I figured Phil would touch on something like that when discussing how it's ambiguous. I could still see a situation where a doctor doesn't have those orders in writing or is concerned with being liable after a procedure and this outcome happens.
For all those upset at Emerald Fennell‘s decision to cast Jacob Elordi in Wuthering Heights you can relax. She's going to have him play the role in black-face. j/k
I am a nurse in Texas. On the DNR conversation, a few years ago, Texas legislation has come forth and defined DNR differently for us. We have DNR/AND or allow natural death and DNR/COT; continue other treatment. Continue other treatment includes things like antibiotics and tube feeds but doesn't allow CPR or resuscitation while the AND option does not allow any further medical treatment. We also have a designation called limited code where patients can spell out specifically what they do and do not want to allow. It can sometimes be a little frustrating to have to re-explain to people what each one means but at the end of the day, it prompts conversations for families about what the patient actually wants.
Religious people can never make up their minds about DNR. Literally sue you if you don't, and sue you if you do. Doctors should not have to deal with peoples fantasies while trying to save their lives.
dealing with fantasies is new age medicine
The Wuthering Heights casting caused a big stir in my writing group-all of us are fans of the book and we HATE this. I hesitantly think Robbie can pull off Cathy, though if it is a period piece she has too modern a look, but Elordi is absolutely the wrong choice for Heathcliff. As you already mentioned, Heathcliff is supposed to be dark-skinned (and it's actually still hotly contested in literary circles what his ethnicity is) and the ostracization he faces in society bc of it is a MAJOR theme of the novel-to remove that aspect is to gut the story. Every character, every interaction is influenced by his race; it is the underlying WHY of almost every choice made. If he were simply poor/lower class, he would not suffer everyone's revulsion the way he does. It makes me wonder if there's a certain level of fear to cast a man of color-Heathcliff IS a horrible man, a monstrous man, and perhaps they're afraid there will be cries of racism for making the one racialized character so awful. But that's the thing, the novel explores how Heathcliff is molded into that monster BY the revulsion everyone feels for him BECAUSE of his race, never mind the fact that every single other character is the worst person you've ever met in your life.
Casting one of the current favorite pretty white boys shows a fundamental misunderstanding of not just the character but the novel as a whole, and frankly I don't want to see yet another milquetoast adaptation. It's cowardly and it's ignorant.
Heathcliff is described “as white as the wall behind him”
He is not a man of color. English people are ethnocentric so anyone not english is foreign even if they’re another kind of European. Thats the point, Heathcliff is dark and brooding (written by a horny shy girl- who romanticized this kind of man in her life).
If there were racial elements that would be clear but it’s not. You’re not reading the material from the perspective of the time in England.
Nurse with ICU experience here, something that was not mentioned is how common it is for family members acting as a Power of Attorney, to overturn a patient’s DNR. This forces healthcare workers to proceed with life saving measures that the patient explicitly stated they did not want.
eric adams using the “matrix is out to get me” defense is WILD
Hello, Mr Adams. I am Morpheus.
Straight out of an Andrew Tate monologue