Thanks @laizerwoolf for pointing out. We cannot weapon swap pconc but we can setup weapon swap on eye of winter & despair to switch to our widowhail since we always do those before pconc! Appreciate the info!
I made this build with a relatively thight budget. I still need jewels and I dont have any but they are expensive. However, I dont die easily. I dont play gas arrow as second because right now I have 42K poison conc dps and 7k gas arrow DPS with a relatively good bow and quiver. I clean the map with conc. This build is, by far, the best poison conc build. yoıu have HP, you have ES, you have EV and you have DPS with a mid gear. Thanks man. I started to enjoy again.
You could put eye of winter on weapon 1, so when you engage with a boss and you use eye of winter it weapons swaps it back to 1 and you could use pconc without thinking about making sure its on weapon 1.
21:29 I don't understand, at level 92 I don't have enough points in the tree as you can see in the video. I even have the ascendence that gives me 5 additional points
A tip for the weapon swap: keep your default “Bow Shot” on the bar and use that to swap back to your pconc weapon set. As far as I can tell, bow shot is always tied to weapon slot 1. Running this now and it’s been a blast so far. A bit tougher to run while leveling since your support sockets on pconc are tied to your level, but it’s working well.
Very nice explanations mate. So hard to find quality build videos where they explain where and why they make the choices they do with the build. Very useful guide and ill be following you build to maximise my conc build. One question i have: what instil options do you put on your Amulet? Cheers
I fell in love with pconc right away. Mine is similar to another commenter here with around 42k reg pconc, and it really struggles on tougher bosses. Is that massive boost really coming from all of the crit bonus passives? Another question i had was, wouldn't your best gas arrow swap weapon set be another widowhail with another similarly good quiver with + to phys dmg mod? Im geared pretty well but really im lacking in ES and seeing you with a casual 3.5k while still maintaining 85% ev blows my mind (mostly because of acrobatics). Im going to try and respec into a similar setup and see what changes. Love the build, and im trying to get my dps up to a similar level. One thing that I noticed through playing with pconc is that a primed quiver (for widowhail) with proj spd, bow skills, proj skills, crit dmg bonus, crit % is THE QOL way to go. It's so satisfying having high attack spd and high proj spd, click = delete enemy. You do miss the massive juicy bonus to crit chance but i found with pconc that you crit so often anyways that it tends to not make that big of a difference from 30% (with a visc quiv) down to 15% (where i'm at now with the primed). This might change when I respec into your passive tree. Side note: I really hope they don't change the bow skills dmg bonus. Other side not: those jewels are EXPENSIVE.
Yes, the quiver is all of your damage and the crit is vitally important, when combined with a good widowhail and quiver jewels. Gas arrow needs extra proj, so no widowhail. I would avoid acrobatics, EV/ES is soo much better. As for proj speed vs. crit? Crit better, dead stuff better. I never cared if it takes an extra .05 seconds to reach the target. They will nerf bow skills, it wont hurt the build, I have guides ready when they do. And yes, jewels spendy, haha.
Holy cow. As if I could teach you anything… you can put your eye of winter on the pconc weapon set so you always auto switch to it before you pconc. I’ve been wanting poison burst arrow to work but clearly I need to get one of those unique bows and go pconc.
Great Guide, I'm trying to follow the maxroll guide , I'm lvl 93 but I come short by 2 points, I started clean the tree 2 times and I got the same result, is the maxroll guide for lvl 95? or am I doing something wrong? thx
@@Lokati_gaming yeah, I’ve triple checked everything. I did notice in your video you had Critical Damage right after Flow Like Water, but in Maxroll you have Attack Damage.
Thanks for the build! I'm a little confused as to why you even need gas arrow though, pconc alone seems to clear just fine as long as you have a way to regen charges, unless I'm missing something
@Lokati_gaming thanks for the reply, I try to go ssf so it's hard to find multiple great bow+quiver combos, but I already have a widowhail and that may be why poison gas hasn't been as effective for me. really appreciate the detail you went into in the vid, thanks!
hi, im struggling with my build poison concoction, getting HK on bosses. im feeling i just fail. just bought that queen of the forest. did u have any idea whats worth a budget like your build? Great video btw. i hope i can do something like that. ty
Thanks for your guide man, switching from Corpsewade + Q.of forest made me more tankier. Though losing much travel speed modifier from 78 to 44 is acceptable. Cause l have less chance to die on boss and lose chunk of EXP. BUT my build is way less DPS than yours 21x,xxx compare to 168,xxx, even the level support from +2/+3 projectile are the same to you?
Well, you can always go higher, my final build was about 600,000 tooltip DPS. But it all comes down to gear, come by twitch and we can look at your gear and see where improvements can be made.
@Lokati_gaming thanks, and I have problem cannot click to add weapon set skill points on the tree. Am I missing something? My skill points is zero but weapon points are 24. And I'm at LV90. I'll join your channel soon to see your latest gears. 👍
You have to remove 24 points from your passive tree first, then select the weapon swap in the top right that you want to "fill in", so you need 24 empty passive tree points first before you spend them on the swap.
@@Lokati_gaming I have to reroll passive tree and update it by your maxroll guide. Now out of gold 😂 Just wonder, the 124 skill points on tree guide. if at LV90 , I've got 90 + 24 on Acts + 6 on ascendancy = total 120. Is that correct? Thx.
Hello, good video, I follow your guide with a few very small changes that I made, but I would like to know why if you go to full evasion and energy shield on all items, your gloves go to armor and ES? I understand why the chest and helmet, for a passive reason, but why the glove?
@lokati appreciate your vids. I’m really struggling though. How are your energy shield and evasion numbers so high? I have pretty good gear and it’s not even close. I’m not sure if I missed something. You have like 1500 more energy shield than me and I don’t see it on the gear
My helm is 481 and my body armor is 434, those are probably the differences, if not that then its the tree. My amulet is also very nice with 40% es max.
@ thanks I’ll look into it. My helm is evasion/energy shield 307/116 and my chest is 723/272. But is that really a 1500 shield difference there? I have amulet that is 50% evasion rating and 58% energy shield. Also anointed with another 30% energy shield. Appreciate it.
Good guide as always but I has one question how to make poison concoction skill have 5 socket since I try to use to perfect jeweller but it can't be use.
First message sums up internet perfectly, btw if you want to build this, dont, its gonna be nerfed after devs vacation. Concoction is not supposed to get damage from bow or quiver
Is that why you have 200k dps? Because of the bow attack mod on quiver? That I understand if they will remove it. But crit mods proj skill levels with pconc should not be nerfed.
any tip to increase the poison cloud dps.. im at lv 40 and i have huge problems to kill the bosses, following your passive build, and i have the poison fingers or what they are called.
For those saying pconc need nerfed, I've tried for days to get a GA and/or poisonburst build to work. It just has so many issues, from absurd mana cost problems, slow damage speed, slow attack speeds, and/or terrible boss damage. Trying to fix any of these issues leads you to having problems with another. GGG needs to be buffing other things if they nerfing pconc. Any other alternative for a PF right now is terrible. Maybe with 1000 div gear with perfect min maxing, but otherwise compared to other classes or even LA deadeye it's not on the same planet.
pconc needs a nerf, not a huge one though. However, GA can absolutely do end game without absurd perfect gear, its just not as strong as pconc is. My gas arrow build before I switched to Pconc was melting t18 rares in 1-2 seconds with ease. I have older videos on that.
@@Lokati_gaming I know it can, its just clunky, awkward, slow(as in, your character being stuck in animations ), etc. Have to waste a gem slot for mana and still costs 200 mana with 600 mana pool to shoot 1 arrow. In a vacuum it seems like that's fine, but why would I ever play GA/PF when you watch LA deleting entire screens shooting 200 arrow a second while they blink around the map? My point is compared to invokers, LAs, gemlings, stormweavers, pconc is on the bottom of the totem pole. It's one shining moment is bosses while all other builds just delete the entire game at a million mph.
@@PaulSpurlock-s2s Everyone has to manage mana, so a gem slot is not that bad. Its not slow for my character because you can get a massive amount of dex and scale attack speed per dex. I think the problem isn't the build but it is you comparing your build with a 5div budget to a lightning arrow in a 300div budget and then not understanding how to scale it properly. That isn't to say that some build aren't better than others but this is just you not understanding how to utilize GA better rather than GA just sucking.
The only thing that confuse me why my elemental quiver provide more damage than my physical damage even i dint equip plaguefinger , then shouldnt i use elemental quiver? The difference is almost half.
@ Can you share more about that? For example, I have invested in psn magnitude nodes on passive tree. If I understand right, then maybe 75% multiplicative should be a better choice for my gas arrow? I’ve also gained chaos damage through a node and stacked chaos additives.
@@Lokati_gaming oof that seems backwards and weird. Do we know what the magnitude formula is? I would think “more” multiplies on top of the base magnitude, which is increased (additively) by the passive nodes. Seems like the higher the base magnitude, then the more this gem would show a difference?
Ok so the math is a little complex look at it this way, if you are doing 100,000 dps and you have 25 magnitude then you're now doing 125,000 dps. Making magnitude 100/125 = .8, so the magnitude is 20% of your total damage, if you have 75 magnitude then you're doing 100/200 = .5, making magnitude 50% of your total damage. So even though you quadrupled your magnitude your damage contribution of magnitude is only 50/20 = 2.5 times higher. As you get more and more magnitude compared to other sources of multiplicative bonuses the total value relative to the opportunity cost diminishes because each instance of magnitude is additive with each other instance. Whereas, most other multiplicative modifiers are multiplicative with each other. For instance, 50% more damage jewel, plus 50% more damage jewel = 100,000*1.5*1.5 instead of 100,000*(1.5+1.5), which is significantly greater scaling.
hey man i see ur dmg is scaled so much higher than mine and i wonder why.. my lvl 28 pconc (lvl 87 pathfinder) only has 6,900 dps. yours is 200k... is it because of my bow? its 193% yours is 278%
Its about 300k right now and will continue to improve as we make changes the bow is part of it, the quiver is a HUUGE part of it and the jewels all scale it higher.
@@Lokati_gaming How is it possible that Gas Arrow HITS when the description says that it don´t hit. Or does this "no hit" thing only counts for the Cloud?
I don't have a leveling guide in particular but if you follow the maxroll tree you can begin playing the build as soon as you complete your first ascendancy at around 26.
Crit, crit and more crit combined with quiver %. My final tooltip on the build was over 600k without even going into how high we could push it. Reasonably with good gear you could see a 2m tooltip.
Sorry but I don't understand why Withering Touch is working with Eye of winter. Withering touch proc with chaos damage What is the source of chaos damage without Chaos infusion in winter orb in the build witha physicial bow?
Now uve completed the poison build. Thats very strong, but conc will most likely nerfed by alot like many other builds who oneshot bosses. Can you explain me how that plague support gem works? I dont get what they mean with max 10% of enemy health. And how much of a dmg boost is it actually? And why dont you use snakebite gloves for more poison stacks?
Who cares if it'll be nerfed? It'd still be really strong, and at the end of the day, if they nerf all the overperforming builds, that just means they'll be in line with the other ones and still perfectly viable.
They will not nerf pconc drastically. It is an ascendancy node. It is intended to be strong on endgame and trash at early game. They will nerf bow attack mod on quiver scaling pconc damage. I think that is a bug. But that is it.
It's cheap, u only need widowhail for the unique and the rest of the gear can be bought under 1 div. but it's better if u lvl with LA + rods and start speccing to pconc in lvl 52-55. . you can comfortably reach 2k life 1k ES, with 25k dps on pconc.
I have over and over tested this and simply don't think they are good for anything but breach, at which you can simply swap them in for breach if you need them. Its a long explanation, I might make a video to explain.
That's fine, if they nerf pconc by 60% I'll still do over 1m damage, and if they nerf it into the ground I still have a fully functional gas arrow character that does 1m+ dps with toxic growth. Pathfinder is still a strong flexible class.
If you look at my previous builds videos & VODs on twitch you will see that I have been working on and posting this build well before Ruetoo, he neither invented it nor perfected it, his was just another iteration. I appreciate the view though thanks!
If you’re having an issue where the game says you can’t use your quiver with widowhail, try liking your eye of winter/despair/escape shot to weapon slot 1, that fixed it for me and actually let me gain the benefits of my quiver
Its up to 300k or so right now, if you're following the tree and your the same level its just about get better gear. You'll get there. A great quiver is THE most important thing.
@ thank you for replying! the only difference in the gear is that I don’t have the bow skill damage. I see you have 30+%, would that creates the difference from 60K to 300K? Also the level of the skill 😭
bruh thanks for the tips. I subscribed before you blow up in POE 2's rangers community. Can we early subs please get good gear for low exalts in trade with you? :')
Thats fine, bow skills on quiver nerf doesnt matter much to my build. I would lose maybe 10-15% overall DPS. Even if they nerfed PConc back to before buff stats it would still delete bosses with ease. We can always make small changes to gear around it.
@@Lokati_gaming if they nerf bow ur dps will drop half maybe more .. ur skill lvl drop in to ground skill + scrit hit will go down HARD . it will be dead build bro
Because the entire ascendancy tree has zero support for the other elements and a small area, low attack speed ability without any poison proliferation would be absolutely hot garbage to play, this coupled with scaling entirely off a quiver and little benefit on the passive tree makes them very undesirable. Like you could do it, you'd just be a shitty version of pconc with no clear.
Thanks @laizerwoolf for pointing out. We cannot weapon swap pconc but we can setup weapon swap on eye of winter & despair to switch to our widowhail since we always do those before pconc! Appreciate the info!
Weapon swap is a stupid mechanic and should be banned.
@@m3tax Someone is a stupid mechanic and should be banned.
I made this build with a relatively thight budget. I still need jewels and I dont have any but they are expensive. However, I dont die easily. I dont play gas arrow as second because right now I have 42K poison conc dps and 7k gas arrow DPS with a relatively good bow and quiver. I clean the map with conc. This build is, by far, the best poison conc build. yoıu have HP, you have ES, you have EV and you have DPS with a mid gear. Thanks man. I started to enjoy again.
Yoo! Congratulations, I'm glad you're enjoying the game!
You could put eye of winter on weapon 1, so when you engage with a boss and you use eye of winter it weapons swaps it back to 1 and you could use pconc without thinking about making sure its on weapon 1.
solid idea
That is already done, the comment was pinned a few days ago. Thanks for the heads up though!
21:29 I don't understand, at level 92 I don't have enough points in the tree as you can see in the video. I even have the ascendence that gives me 5 additional points
I will be rebuilding this build for the patch this week.
A tip for the weapon swap: keep your default “Bow Shot” on the bar and use that to swap back to your pconc weapon set. As far as I can tell, bow shot is always tied to weapon slot 1.
Running this now and it’s been a blast so far. A bit tougher to run while leveling since your support sockets on pconc are tied to your level, but it’s working well.
You can just bind your spells to the pconc weapon slot.
@ Yeah I realized that once I unlocked Despair, I swapped to pconc as soon as I finished my first ascension so had to wait a bit for my spells
Very nice explanations mate. So hard to find quality build videos where they explain where and why they make the choices they do with the build. Very useful guide and ill be following you build to maximise my conc build.
One question i have: what instil options do you put on your Amulet?
Cheers
Thankya sir! Enjoy!
For amulets, I prefer cheap options like heavy ammunition
Really liked the build, is it changing something to reflect the latest patch notes?
Yes I will update the build this week.
I fell in love with pconc right away. Mine is similar to another commenter here with around 42k reg pconc, and it really struggles on tougher bosses. Is that massive boost really coming from all of the crit bonus passives? Another question i had was, wouldn't your best gas arrow swap weapon set be another widowhail with another similarly good quiver with + to phys dmg mod?
Im geared pretty well but really im lacking in ES and seeing you with a casual 3.5k while still maintaining 85% ev blows my mind (mostly because of acrobatics).
Im going to try and respec into a similar setup and see what changes. Love the build, and im trying to get my dps up to a similar level.
One thing that I noticed through playing with pconc is that a primed quiver (for widowhail) with proj spd, bow skills, proj skills, crit dmg bonus, crit % is THE QOL way to go. It's so satisfying having high attack spd and high proj spd, click = delete enemy. You do miss the massive juicy bonus to crit chance but i found with pconc that you crit so often anyways that it tends to not make that big of a difference from 30% (with a visc quiv) down to 15% (where i'm at now with the primed). This might change when I respec into your passive tree.
Side note: I really hope they don't change the bow skills dmg bonus.
Other side not: those jewels are EXPENSIVE.
Yes, the quiver is all of your damage and the crit is vitally important, when combined with a good widowhail and quiver jewels. Gas arrow needs extra proj, so no widowhail. I would avoid acrobatics, EV/ES is soo much better.
As for proj speed vs. crit? Crit better, dead stuff better. I never cared if it takes an extra .05 seconds to reach the target.
They will nerf bow skills, it wont hurt the build, I have guides ready when they do.
And yes, jewels spendy, haha.
Holy cow. As if I could teach you anything… you can put your eye of winter on the pconc weapon set so you always auto switch to it before you pconc. I’ve been wanting poison burst arrow to work but clearly I need to get one of those unique bows and go pconc.
doh sorry looks like other people already mentioned this.
Hah no worries, yeah I've got a pinned comment with that but I appreciate all info!
Great Guide, I'm trying to follow the maxroll guide , I'm lvl 93 but I come short by 2 points, I started clean the tree 2 times and I got the same result, is the maxroll guide for lvl 95? or am I doing something wrong? thx
Same thing. Level 92.
Thats odd, check your passives make sure you're 24/24 on the tree and you have the passive tree ascendancy node, if not maxroll may be bugged?
@@Lokati_gaming I will post an image on the discord, thx for answearing
@@Lokati_gaming yeah, I’ve triple checked everything. I did notice in your video you had Critical Damage right after Flow Like Water, but in Maxroll you have Attack Damage.
Thanks for the build! I'm a little confused as to why you even need gas arrow though, pconc alone seems to clear just fine as long as you have a way to regen charges, unless I'm missing something
@@mhreinhardt pconc suffers in extreme density but yes you can just clear everything with pconc if you wanted
@Lokati_gaming thanks for the reply, I try to go ssf so it's hard to find multiple great bow+quiver combos, but I already have a widowhail and that may be why poison gas hasn't been as effective for me. really appreciate the detail you went into in the vid, thanks!
you cant assign pconc to a weapon set but you can assign eye of winter/despair as the set for the opener.
Very smart cookie! Good idea.
hi, im struggling with my build poison concoction, getting HK on bosses. im feeling i just fail. just bought that queen of the forest.
did u have any idea whats worth a budget like your build? Great video btw. i hope i can do something like that. ty
My build is probably 50 div to put together, idk because most of my stuff i've had since it sold for exalted orbs.
Thanks for your guide man, switching from Corpsewade + Q.of forest made me more tankier. Though losing much travel speed modifier from 78 to 44 is acceptable. Cause l have less chance to die on boss and lose chunk of EXP. BUT my build is way less DPS than yours 21x,xxx compare to 168,xxx, even the level support from +2/+3 projectile are the same to you?
Well, you can always go higher, my final build was about 600,000 tooltip DPS. But it all comes down to gear, come by twitch and we can look at your gear and see where improvements can be made.
@Lokati_gaming thanks, and I have problem cannot click to add weapon set skill points on the tree. Am I missing something? My skill points is zero but weapon points are 24. And I'm at LV90. I'll join your channel soon to see your latest gears. 👍
You have to remove 24 points from your passive tree first, then select the weapon swap in the top right that you want to "fill in", so you need 24 empty passive tree points first before you spend them on the swap.
@@Lokati_gaming I have to reroll passive tree and update it by your maxroll guide. Now out of gold 😂 Just wonder, the 124 skill points on tree guide. if at LV90 , I've got 90 + 24 on Acts + 6 on ascendancy = total 120. Is that correct? Thx.
I think its lvl 90 = 89+24act+6 ascendancy but yeah close enough
Hello, good video, I follow your guide with a few very small changes that I made, but I would like to know why if you go to full evasion and energy shield on all items, your gloves go to armor and ES? I understand why the chest and helmet, for a passive reason, but why the glove?
@@Vayzher bc the stats on the gloves were very good and gear was scarce early in the game
Dude, i was almost quit because of survival. You gave me hope with this build! Yeah items are expensive but i can make a budget version of it. Thanks!
@@evilmarius you can absolutely make this build on a budget
How do you have +7 to Gas arrow levels? you got 2 from quiver and 3 from amulet. where do 2 extra come from?
chaos mastery on the tree and quiver jewels.
@@Lokati_gaming ah, thanks
One more question, do you think it would help to carry the poison herald?
@@Vayzher no
@lokati appreciate your vids. I’m really struggling though. How are your energy shield and evasion numbers so high? I have pretty good gear and it’s not even close. I’m not sure if I missed something. You have like 1500 more energy shield than me and I don’t see it on the gear
My helm is 481 and my body armor is 434, those are probably the differences, if not that then its the tree. My amulet is also very nice with 40% es max.
@ thanks I’ll look into it. My helm is evasion/energy shield 307/116 and my chest is 723/272. But is that really a 1500 shield difference there? I have amulet that is 50% evasion rating and 58% energy shield. Also anointed with another 30% energy shield. Appreciate it.
yes, base is HUGE, you probably have ~+300% to energy shield, so missing 500 base es = 1500 total es
When you beat the arbiter, at the end of the gear, it said tier 3. What does that mean?
@@bazementgremlin845 just means the item is better rolled
Basically, everything in that item is guaranteed to be at least tier 3
I have some problems with my lab 4 my flask mana is 0.25 recharge but not enough to defeat the boss how can i fix this problem thx
add flask per second on belt, reduced flask charges used or increased flask charges gained and run alchemist boon passive for the boss.
Do you value Acrobatics for this? at what kind of dodge chance would you take it?
I dont prefer acrobatics, I think the investment necessary is not worth the reward
damage of gas arrow come from phy? i cant not
Scale dmg my gas arrow
Yes, phys = gas arrow damage, that and proj skills and bow skills damage on quiver.
What’s the budget to get this build running?
Probably 20ex to get it running and clear t15 maps.
Good guide as always but I has one question how to make poison concoction skill have 5 socket since I try to use to perfect jeweller but it can't be use.
Reach level 90.
@@Lokati_gaming Thx bro!
@@Lokati_gaming you need lvl 90 for a 5 link? Omg 😱 or is it the Skill itself + 5 Sockets?
great video. anyway, is there any way to get pcon to +20 quality?
Unfortunately no, you cannot change the qual of pconc
First message sums up internet perfectly, btw if you want to build this, dont, its gonna be nerfed after devs vacation. Concoction is not supposed to get damage from bow or quiver
Raid is our local channel cynic.
Is that why you have 200k dps? Because of the bow attack mod on quiver?
That I understand if they will remove it. But crit mods proj skill levels with pconc should not be nerfed.
No I have 200k dps because of massive crit dam/chance and 36 level pconc.
brother.. i was just about to sell everything and make this are u being serious or u dont actually know shit?
@@ViliOlin devs literally returned from vacation yesterday, wait, it will be soon.
any tip to increase the poison cloud dps.. im at lv 40 and i have huge problems to kill the bosses, following your passive build, and i have the poison fingers or what they are called.
get a bow with high physical dps and +proj skills, get a quiver with high bow skill damage and +proj skills.
@@Lokati_gaming thank you.
For those saying pconc need nerfed, I've tried for days to get a GA and/or poisonburst build to work. It just has so many issues, from absurd mana cost problems, slow damage speed, slow attack speeds, and/or terrible boss damage. Trying to fix any of these issues leads you to having problems with another. GGG needs to be buffing other things if they nerfing pconc.
Any other alternative for a PF right now is terrible. Maybe with 1000 div gear with perfect min maxing, but otherwise compared to other classes or even LA deadeye it's not on the same planet.
pconc needs a nerf, not a huge one though. However, GA can absolutely do end game without absurd perfect gear, its just not as strong as pconc is. My gas arrow build before I switched to Pconc was melting t18 rares in 1-2 seconds with ease. I have older videos on that.
@@Lokati_gaming I know it can, its just clunky, awkward, slow(as in, your character being stuck in animations ), etc. Have to waste a gem slot for mana and still costs 200 mana with 600 mana pool to shoot 1 arrow. In a vacuum it seems like that's fine, but why would I ever play GA/PF when you watch LA deleting entire screens shooting 200 arrow a second while they blink around the map?
My point is compared to invokers, LAs, gemlings, stormweavers, pconc is on the bottom of the totem pole. It's one shining moment is bosses while all other builds just delete the entire game at a million mph.
@@PaulSpurlock-s2s Everyone has to manage mana, so a gem slot is not that bad. Its not slow for my character because you can get a massive amount of dex and scale attack speed per dex. I think the problem isn't the build but it is you comparing your build with a 5div budget to a lightning arrow in a 300div budget and then not understanding how to scale it properly. That isn't to say that some build aren't better than others but this is just you not understanding how to utilize GA better rather than GA just sucking.
The only thing that confuse me why my elemental quiver provide more damage than my physical damage even i dint equip plaguefinger , then shouldnt i use elemental quiver? The difference is almost half.
I'd have to see a clip of the two quivers and your damage to tell you why.
Is the Deadly Poison support gem no good for gas cloud or pconc?
Yes and no, it depends on your gear level and passive tree selections. Generally falls off at higher levels of gear.
@ Can you share more about that? For example, I have invested in psn magnitude nodes on passive tree. If I understand right, then maybe 75% multiplicative should be a better choice for my gas arrow? I’ve also gained chaos damage through a node and stacked chaos additives.
@@kevmo8385 The most magnitude you have, the less value it has.
@@Lokati_gaming oof that seems backwards and weird. Do we know what the magnitude formula is? I would think “more” multiplies on top of the base magnitude, which is increased (additively) by the passive nodes. Seems like the higher the base magnitude, then the more this gem would show a difference?
Ok so the math is a little complex look at it this way, if you are doing 100,000 dps and you have 25 magnitude then you're now doing 125,000 dps. Making magnitude 100/125 = .8, so the magnitude is 20% of your total damage, if you have 75 magnitude then you're doing 100/200 = .5, making magnitude 50% of your total damage. So even though you quadrupled your magnitude your damage contribution of magnitude is only 50/20 = 2.5 times higher. As you get more and more magnitude compared to other sources of multiplicative bonuses the total value relative to the opportunity cost diminishes because each instance of magnitude is additive with each other instance. Whereas, most other multiplicative modifiers are multiplicative with each other. For instance, 50% more damage jewel, plus 50% more damage jewel = 100,000*1.5*1.5 instead of 100,000*(1.5+1.5), which is significantly greater scaling.
How can i get more Support slots for PConc? I only got 2 and i cant get them with orbs. (Im lvl 22 and got first asc)
You get them with levels, I believe at 90, 70 & 50
@Lokati_gaming Ahh thanks. 🙂
poisonous concoction sockets 5 >?
when you reach level 90
yes 90
hey man i see ur dmg is scaled so much higher than mine and i wonder why.. my lvl 28 pconc (lvl 87 pathfinder) only has 6,900 dps. yours is 200k... is it because of my bow? its 193% yours is 278%
Its about 300k right now and will continue to improve as we make changes the bow is part of it, the quiver is a HUUGE part of it and the jewels all scale it higher.
@@Lokati_gaming ok thanks ill look at scaling all those
Are the fragments one time use or can you keep attempting him
@@johnstallone4807 one time
what lvl should you attempt this build? currently lvl 73.
@@mackflanagan7002 can start playing around 50
You can level with Pconc as soon as you unlock the ascendancy and then you can completely ignore the mechanics of the act bosses too!
5 socket PConc? How do you do that?
level 90
Hey, how to get 5th socket on poisonous concoction?
Level up, gem will go automatically up with sockes. I think 6th socket is lvl 90, 5th maybe lvl 70 or so
This is accurate, I think its 4 link at 50, 5 link at 70 and 6 link at 90.
I am lvl 85 and it still 4 socket
Yes we said 6 link (5 sockets) at 90
Why Chaos damage? it doesnt effect poisons
@@Piper0185 we don't kill with poison
can gas arrow do crit damage?
Yes and no. The initial hit from the arrow can do crit damage and crit poison, the gas cloud cannot.
@@Lokati_gaming How is it possible that Gas Arrow HITS when the description says that it don´t hit.
Or does this "no hit" thing only counts for the Cloud?
the arrow hits and CAN poison if you have poison chance, the gas cloud doesn't but the gas cloud poison as if it hits.
Do you have a leveling guide for this build?
I don't have a leveling guide in particular but if you follow the maxroll tree you can begin playing the build as soon as you complete your first ascendancy at around 26.
How can u get 216k dps from poisonous, i only got 6k dps
Crit, crit and more crit combined with quiver %. My final tooltip on the build was over 600k without even going into how high we could push it. Reasonably with good gear you could see a 2m tooltip.
How you get on 215k Damage of poisonous Concoction???? I got 30k, but 185k more?????? Wich way i can get so much damage?
lvl 35 poison conc
more % quiver effect and a better quiver are the best ways. Currently my pconc hits about 500k
@@Lokati_gaming hope you share v.2 of your build gears.
Cost of the build? What’s the tier of the boss?
Depends on the boss, but it can kill anything. Cost of the build is probably 20ex entry for T15s and then skys the limit.
Sorry but I don't understand why Withering Touch is working with Eye of winter.
Withering touch proc with chaos damage What is the source of chaos damage without Chaos infusion in winter orb in the build witha physicial bow?
He got a node in the passive tree that makes all his attacks deal a % as chaos damage.
@brunoandreotti7727 thanks
passive tree talent on chaos, top right, give extra chaos dmg
Yes, its chaos as extra from the tree, they are correct.
Now uve completed the poison build. Thats very strong, but conc will most likely nerfed by alot like many other builds who oneshot bosses. Can you explain me how that plague support gem works? I dont get what they mean with max 10% of enemy health. And how much of a dmg boost is it actually? And why dont you use snakebite gloves for more poison stacks?
Who cares if it'll be nerfed? It'd still be really strong, and at the end of the day, if they nerf all the overperforming builds, that just means they'll be in line with the other ones and still perfectly viable.
@@FFeeLiT yes, if it's nerfed we have options, and we don't use snakebite because they are not worth losing stats on rare gloves
I hope they dont nerf it to much because me as a casual SSF Player will never be able to min/max this build.
I am sure it will be fine theres much worse outliers right now anyway.
They will not nerf pconc drastically. It is an ascendancy node. It is intended to be strong on endgame and trash at early game.
They will nerf bow attack mod on quiver scaling pconc damage. I think that is a bug. But that is it.
is this build expensive to get going?
It's cheap, u only need widowhail for the unique and the rest of the gear can be bought under 1 div. but it's better if u lvl with LA + rods and start speccing to pconc in lvl 52-55. . you can comfortably reach 2k life 1k ES, with 25k dps on pconc.
@laizerwoolf thank you!
It is very cheap to get going
@@Lokati_gaming great guide, I'll be doing this!
why dont yout use "Corpsewade Iron Greaves" boots as it has decompose skill on step..
I have over and over tested this and simply don't think they are good for anything but breach, at which you can simply swap them in for breach if you need them. Its a long explanation, I might make a video to explain.
@@Lokati_gaming This pcoc is going to be nerfed in latest patch.. lol..
That's fine, if they nerf pconc by 60% I'll still do over 1m damage, and if they nerf it into the ground I still have a fully functional gas arrow character that does 1m+ dps with toxic growth. Pathfinder is still a strong flexible class.
@@Lokati_gaming hmm anyways lets c.. im on the leveling stage for pcobc build...
No worries, if you follow my channel I will always have something for you to play that will let you compete in the end game.
Nice build tho, well stolen from ruetoo, did you mention the credit for him anywhere?
If you look at my previous builds videos & VODs on twitch you will see that I have been working on and posting this build well before Ruetoo, he neither invented it nor perfected it, his was just another iteration. I appreciate the view though thanks!
I am sorry, I checked and U are right, my sincerest apologies. In that case very good job. Good luck and keep going! @@Lokati_gaming
Yooo, its been so long since I had a negative comment become a positive comment on YT I forgot how awesome people can be. Haha thanks!
How to quality poison conc ?
It cannot be qualitied right now.
@Lokati_gaming how to unlock more gem slots for pconc.?
level up. 90 = 5 slots.
@Lokati_gaming got it.. 👍
If you’re having an issue where the game says you can’t use your quiver with widowhail, try liking your eye of winter/despair/escape shot to weapon slot 1, that fixed it for me and actually let me gain the benefits of my quiver
Not sure what you're talking about, never had those issues.
How are you running so fast
Move speed boots, move speed on tree.
My skill is at level 33 but DPS is only 60K. I am struggling what is went wrong.. how do you get DPS 200K😭
Its up to 300k or so right now, if you're following the tree and your the same level its just about get better gear. You'll get there. A great quiver is THE most important thing.
@ thank you for replying! the only difference in the gear is that I don’t have the bow skill damage. I see you have 30+%, would that creates the difference from 60K to 300K? Also the level of the skill 😭
Nah, 30% bow skill is probably 10% total damage, its not a multiplicative modifier its an additive modifier in a pool that is already very large.
How do i get so much Int?
Stats on tree, amulet and quiver.
bruh thanks for the tips. I subscribed before you blow up in POE 2's rangers community. Can we early subs please get good gear for low exalts in trade with you? :')
Hah, I don't always have stuff for sale but if you come by channel I can teach you how to use POE trade to find ridiculously good items on a budget.
@Lokati_gaming bro can you help me with my 7,8th ascendency points plssss
what the jewels ? quiver ?
@@cat-anchovy yeah quiver bonus jewels are best
anyone know what wings those are?
@@Azurewasright old wings, emberkeep
Mechanics are for cars.
😝 Facts
Well damn!
@@DaLastSaiyan hah
i am sure they will nerf bow skills on quiver + rewoork skill and most stupid dat i think they will do its nerf bow to 150%
Thats fine, bow skills on quiver nerf doesnt matter much to my build. I would lose maybe 10-15% overall DPS. Even if they nerfed PConc back to before buff stats it would still delete bosses with ease. We can always make small changes to gear around it.
@@Lokati_gaming if they nerf bow ur dps will drop half maybe more .. ur skill lvl drop in to ground skill + scrit hit will go down HARD . it will be dead build bro
If they "nerf it into the ground" then we'll switch. I was killing bosses and clearing maps before pconc and I will be after.
sick to death of poison pathfinder vids, why is no one making vids for the other element concoctions?
Because the entire ascendancy tree has zero support for the other elements and a small area, low attack speed ability without any poison proliferation would be absolutely hot garbage to play, this coupled with scaling entirely off a quiver and little benefit on the passive tree makes them very undesirable. Like you could do it, you'd just be a shitty version of pconc with no clear.
I feel like I have way less life/ES
need more gear.
can u make MF version
MF version is the same as the non-MF version, you just give up stats for rarity on items.
No rarity lol
Nope, you can always add rarity if you want it.
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