ORION: Cultural Index
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- There is more to the Orions than their surface level depiction, but of course we have to dig deeper. They are after-all, THE race to introduce the green-skinned alien babe trope.
But as said, from their government to their syndicate, there is more to their society than first appears.
This is the Cultural Index a series aimed at exploring various Science-Fiction species.
For outsiders to a series to get to know the basics and maybe even hardened Sci-fi nuts might discover something new.
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To understand an enemy, you must understand their culture.
Like this video
The Chiss are clearly the superior option
Some day, you should do the Protoss. Haha.
The Makuta from Bionicle.
"...And for YOUR information many Orions' haven't been pirates for 5 YEARS!"
So sayeth the "Mistress of the Winter Constellations"! All hail D'Vana Tendi!
@Silverknight171 Lol, as hilarious as it may be Lower decks is actually part of the star trek canon. 😄
It makes me laugh when I see heated arguments over fiction.
@@wafflegodpiechrist wohoo
@@wafflegodpiechristIt deserves to be. It expands the internal workings of the Federation as well as a bit of the culture of several species, and some of the events (like the Texas class incident) kind of help explain the setting in which Picard S1 begins.
" And then lets take a look at Orion women... I mean, Orion people... " LOL
Those orion women give off strong pheromones he could not help it. :P
The one girl who watches this channel,
Yep
I totally agree
Set faces to Lenny!
I really got a chuckle out of that!
To me I find it unusual that there aren't more Orion half breeds in trek universe considering their propensity for, um, physical relations. I mean even the vulcans with their copper based blood could still have half human off spring, so I know it's possible.
A female betazoid orion hybrid would be quite the dangerous woman
Got a few thoughts on this...
Easiest is their genes are very dominant leading to the hybrids being almost undisguisable, a kin to human hybrids with only reduced ridges or slight ear points, that can disappear after a couple generation or are easy to cosmetically fix to fit their standards...
Or they might even have rules that only those passable as "pure" Orion are let on ships to meet other races. Either because they don't know how new race will react to seeing other races. Say they had a half Vulcan on board when making first contact with Andorians when they were still at war, that would put an end to those "talks"... Or maybe it's a strategy because many races find smoother skin more appealing and less threatening. Kind of like how Cardassian women got surgery for smoother skin to look more Bajorian.
Their whole thing is getting "close" so if the other people think your in "bed" with their enemy or if your "repulsive" to them that plan falls a apart quickly...
I agree with Pike, I also would retire on a planet of hot green women.
Damn it I'm there!! LOL
Disgusting! How could any of you even think about living with these monsters? Unless, that is, you plan to open a labor camp.
It worked for Jim Kirk!
@@keirfarnum6811 r
Did Kirk get to retire with green women that no human could resist??? I missed that! Didnt see any greens on Risa tho ha.
Blue Andorians are also in the running.
While people have mixed feelings about the Star Trek cartoon, my favorite line from the cartoon series itself is a line from Kirk,
"Whether they die or not, you'll still stand trial and Orion's little game of neutrality and piracy is over!"
Orions are the Twi'leks of Star Trek.
Actually Twi’leks are the Orions of Star Wars because Orions were created before the Twi’leks
@@Silverswitch1 I was just comparing they are both slave races and used for their beauty.
Actually, the Orions have more in common with the Falleen.
@@BigDictator5335 Exactly.
@@Jesse12489 It is true that the females of both species tend to be naturally beautiful.However for the twi'leks it tends to be a curse as it makes them a popular target for slave traders.For the orions it tends to be an asset as their society is a matriarchy anyway and is just another tool their women are more than happy to exploit.Both for their own personal benefit and the benefit of whichever noble house they were born into or pledged allegiance too.
It surprised me to learn at one time that the Orion slave women weren't the slaves, the men were. The women were the real shot callers because of their special pheromones. It was said by one Orion male (Star Trek Continues: Lolani) they gained an immunity to the Orion female pheromones over time.
Lolani was drop dead gorgeous!
I love Star Trek continues❤
*in a space marine's voice* "Green skins..."
(Chainsword Revving Intensifies)
Green skins, thought i smelled something
@@onelividguardsman5681 for the emperor
Orion woman: UMIES!
I think you mean xenos scum brother. The color matters little to our bolt guns.
Another effect of Orion female's pheromones is to suppress rival females. This effect even works on females of other species.
Disagree
@@nepntzerZer But you're too stupid to prove them wrong. Gotcha.
It was done in Enterprise. Not sure if they kept it though.
Now that we have an Orion main character, maybe its worth revisiting them
I really loved seeing Malcolm Reed's reaction in that episode of Enterprise.
A "caste system where achievements lead to influence"...uh, isn't that the exact opposite of a caste system?
Dave Ryder are there classes?
It's not a rigid caste system like medieval India.
Sounds similar to the Drow of Faerun, but more egalitarian.
@@eXcommunicate1979 Exactly not all caste systems are going to be the same.But from what i have heard about India's caste system technically no one is born into their caste.But it seems like large segments of the population either do not know this or this fact has been forgotten over time.
@@albertschoise8091 As stated in the video apparently their are.The nobility are at the top.But outsiders know next to nothing about the orion's history let alone their culture.I assume it is nobility,workers,and what i assume is a warrior/soldier class.With the syndicate forming their own caste.I am sure their are more but idk if we will ever see them unless Star Trek decides to explore Orion culture a little further in future projects.
Fun fact: Your pronunciation of Caesar as "Kaiser" is actually how it would have been pronounced in Ancient Rome, Julius Caesar was in fact pronounced "Yoo-lee-us Kai-ser."
As an Italian backgrounder myself. The modern pronunciation is "Giuglio Che-sar-e"
Ryan McCallum And Kaiser was used in the German Empire, such Kaiser Fredrick I and the more well known Kaiser Wilhelm II
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 I, for one, refuse to call Julius Caesar "Juggalo Cha'saree"
Although, I have just discovered my next Star Wars d6 character.
@@eyecomeinpeace2707 Giogio Caesar
@@wilsthelimitthat is from the time they were the Holy Roman Empire.
And to think a single green-painted extra would turn into a deeply constructed alien race
Would you ever consider looking at the races of the Farscape Universe, in particular the Sebacian (sp?) Peackeepers and the Scarrans?
Maybe take a look at the Luxans and the Nebari?
I recommend several races for the list; the various Votan Races from Defiance, the Gungans, Dugs, Hutts, Geonosians, Toydarians, Mandalorians, Trandosians, etc.. from Star Wars, the Bajorans, Changelings, Jem Hadar, and Remans from Star Trek, the Arachnids from Starship Troopers, the other members of the Covenant from Halo, the Irkens from Invader Zim, etc. There are so many aliens to do.
Shouldn't the female Orion pheromones cause increased production of testosterone, not adrenaline? I don't think adrenaline causes sexual arousal, only fear and aggression.
I vote chiss
#thrawn
Could you possibly do a cultural index on the red lantern corps?
I like how there's a cat in there
a cultural index????
A species I always found intriguing was the miraluka. A near human race from the Star Wars universe whose eyes atrophied into nothingness but learned to see through other means... which made them a target for one of the most powerful and terrifying Sith Lords! That would definitely be an awesome index entry!
don't forget about the most famous ones- Visas Marr and Jerec
Hey mate it would be awsome if you would make a video on Caitans/Ferasans this feline species is so cool. I would love to learn more about them and what tore them apart. i know i could just read some lore, but i like to watch videos about lore instead of reading about it. High praise to this channel and i love the fact that you use clips from STO and even points towards it sometimes for more information when they actually get it right...
Can there be an Index on the Kilrathi of Wing Commander, second try
the who of what?
third reply NOOOOO
Here's all you need to know.
They are a rip-off of the Kzinti from Larry Niven's Known Universe series of books.
Is there additional information about the Orions now with Tendi and Lower Decks? It might be time for an update to this. I would want to know more of the "religious" implications of the Orion multitool...
Well, we know that though many of them are pirates, not all of them are. They seem to be similar to the Nordic/Vikings of the middle ages.
Not much have been added (Not a dis to Lower Decks. I love how they play with canon)
The only thing is that not every Orion has pheromones. From other sources I believe there are red orions
There was some lore supporting the idea that Vulcans actually do have a slightly greenish tint to their skin as well. It was almost unnoticeable and i think the idea was dropped completely by the time we got to tng.
It kinda picked back up for DS9 at least, the Vulcan captain from "Take Me Out To The Holosuite," definitely looked like there was a faint green tinge to the pale yellow complexion he had.
It would make sense if you think about it just like a human (with iron based blood) will turn red as the blood flow increases either due to physical activity or stress, by blushing.
If the copper blood based species had a vascular system that was similar to ours (which if you believe the preservers seeded the Star Trek galaxy did) they would look more greenish in the same situations humans would start looking rosey.
Yeah and even romulans (they came originally from vulcan too / spock tried to re-unite ) have copper-based (green) blood and a light greenish taint on their skin, also the mintakarians..
and sure it make sense, species with red blood getting light rose´-reddish taint, while the ones with green blood getting bit greenish ..
if you check out the remastered Star Trek Spock has a green tint to his face
A combination of skin-lightening makeup and special lighting was used to try to give Nimoy a slightly greenish skin tone. The effect was almost unnoticeable on-screen due to film-stock limitations and the low resolution of early color television when first broadcast. It is more noticeable in the digital remasters.
"The Sh'Rek is love. The Sh'Rek is life!" - old Klingon proverb
I hadn't even considered taking a look at the Memory Beta pages for Orions. There's so little we get to know about them through the shows aside from the fairly obvious, so thank you very much for getting into some details I don't think I'd otherwise have picked up until way later! :D
I need a list of all star trek episodes with Orions in... for science of course.
UwU
I’ll make the popcorn.🍿🍿🍿
You'd be limited to TOS and Enterprise. Pretty much The Menagerie, Whom Gods Destroy, and the Augment arc.
I want them too make dogs
@@CelticVictory And every episode of Lower Decks.
i thought starfleet medical had developed inoculations against the orion pheromones
That's been proposed but never established in canon.
With Kirk they did not need it, Kirk manipulated Orion women ;)
@@deanfirnatine7814 those Orion pheromones are the best. Can you just imagine having a relationship with a cadet from Starfleet who is an Orion female?
Was Uhuras friend in the first Abrams movie an Orion? The one who "shared some time" with Kirk?
Well, she had green skin anyways. Apparently, some of them found their way into Starfleet? I doubt there'd be discipline problems on her crew.
They also like to hide underneath beds with Starfleet officers! 😉
Kirk manipulated Orion women ;)
I like the Orion's the female's mostly.They maybe use there pheromones to seduce men in there hands
their.
there is a place.
Unless that man is Attracted to other men.
We ALL like orion women.
"How do you tell an Orion Slaver from an Orion Merchant? If you have a phaser it's a merchant."
How do you tell a Cardassian is lying to you? His lips are moving.
id take a green wife. js
yea but telling people she has a headache all the time will only go so far
I prefer blue babes but whatever
Appreciated, but you don't need to credit me on screen. All of the insignias I made are free for the world to use!
(wink wink, nudge nudge - if you ever plan on doing Culural Indexes on other STO-based races one day)
Thanks, I'm an art grad so I'd rather over-credit than not.
@@CertifiablyIngame All good either way. Love the vids, keep them coming!
Doesn't sound too different from life on Earth.
You should do a vid on the Naussicans
O'Rion auto part syndicate
Lol funny
Osiris was said to have a green skin complexion haha....oh no. 😨
Very good! Someone studied ancient Egyptian gods.
But he also lack “junk”.
The story where they try to get him back together except his privates and had to make due with wooden (original Egyptian) or golden (Plutarch) replacement.
Unfortunate that he didn't do this a couple years later
Klingon First Officer: "Sir. To fix this, we cannot do it honorably. We will need Romulan level dastardice!"
Klingon Captain: "I will be in my personal room. Put me in contact with our top Orian 'friend'."
I would Hate to meet a Klingon who's Honor would be base on being a Dishonorable Klingon. It has been stated a Klingon truly gives 100% in every thing they do. I think it was on DS9 about getting drunk.
Your entire channel is too quiet. If one listens on anything but headphones yog have to max the volume....
Then ther commercials come.....
I really want to see the Forerunners, please?
i want to see the Foreplayers
Was that a jab at Big Show with the "excess body fat" thing? He was not in very good shape at the time, but he looks pretty good nowadays
It was made up for when Lou Ferrigno was cast as one.
I don't recall Orions in TNG. A shame they weren't a thing in that series, as interactions with dishonest opportunistic space gypsy hedonists would have made a great foil to play against the straight-laced ideals of the Federation.
Well I suggest that you do a cultural index on the two Star Trek races that you as yet haven't done the Q and the Betazoids
they seem like nice and friendly people :3
11:25 Okay, I laughed pretty hard at that.
Awesome video. I like these cultural indicies. I only wish the writers of the time (1950s-60s) had any biological background. I know they chose green for copper-based blood based on the verdigris found on copper objects that corrode over time. It just so happens that there is a species on earth the has copper-base haemoglobin, the horseshoe crab. Unfortunately for trek, the blood is a clear electric blue in colour, not green. Oh well, what can you do?
i always wanted to be like an orion slavegirl
Where were they in the later Star Trek like a lot those old aliens?
The Orions are divided into several ethic groups. Some of the groups are working legitimately with the other powers. Some of the other Orion groups prefer to be great manipulators like the members of the Orion Syndicate.
Chiss
Didn't find what i was looking 4
The Orion women. O well I'll take IT!!!!!!!😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄!!!!!!!
Your pauses are duly noted. I wonder, what would be the offspring of an Orion and a Deltan, given the noted "problem" of Deltan pheromones on other species? If there arose telepathy among such blends, their ability to manipulate would be amazingly important and difficult to overcome.
The orions from Star Trek: Discovery look more like the nebari from Farscape.
I'm still impressed that Discovery went and brought back the Orions, same as Enterprise did. TNG, DS9 and Voyager were all really lax on the secondary classic species, with only one Andorian appearing between all of them and looking awful to boot, and maybe one Tellarite in Voyager, zero appearance from the Orions though.
At least the post-millenium shows actually bother to do stuff with the different aliens that TOS established. Not like painting someone green would be that difficult to begin with...
Didn't one also appear in the 2009 Star Trek?
Oliver Hopkins Yep Kirk was about to bang one of them 😆
She was a Star Fleet cadet, and a bud of Uhura's!
Oddly enough, DS9 did the most with the Orion Syndicate, just without ever showing or even mentioning actual Orions.
I am very disappointed at the lack of green boo... i mean orion females displayed in this episode. You know damn well people clicked on this expecting to see some fine orion female specimens instead we got that ugly orion dude with a toothpick in his cheek. The lore presented in the video was great, but the imagery, not so much. You could have simply cut a few scenes from that orion episode from ST Enterprise and talk over them...
I am disappoint.
😂😂😂😂😂❤
That's pretty sweet. I just watched BOUND. I think the Orion's kinda fun. I think they need to use the right color that makes the Females skin glow electric green. Leave the males camou. Culturally it appears the idea may be derived from Egypt's Orsiris? But there's always Nordic Mythology with Cernunnos, The Green Man. Biblically, & I feel most importantly, it's crucial to understand Orion is one of the most repeatedly recognized select few renown Holy Celestial Skymarks specifically addressed & accredited by Our Lord.
I particularly enjoy the women as I enjoy a healthy variety of Color given good form. :)
Woe is just found out Navaar was Ziyal. Sssssexy...
minute 3:03, I think.... I was having the same reaction as you 😅😅😅
10:34 Well it's the Big.. Orion Showwww !!!"
The Orion chick looks like Kitana in Mortal Kombat 9.
Ill admit i have a particular weakness for... shall we say space babes in primary colors,
Anyone know how female Orions realize the pheromones do they have a special organ? or I wonder if it is some form of silent fart?
I'm very curious how the Orion's and the syndicate deal with the mirror universe. Are they allies or are they "slaves"?
Why on Earth would they want to come live on Earth?
Ahh one of the frist alien babe races fetered in main steam Sf. From the Orion template so many fiction babe races where created. I still long for the Zerg to be talked about so we may a address one of the most bad arse women in RTS Sarah Kerrgain
Mandalorians- Canon vs Legends continuity.
Fuck that! There's only ONE canon and it sure as hell doesn't have Disney's greedy hands in it!
If Orions have copper based skin, why are they green? Horseshoe crabs have copper based skin and they're not green, in fact their blood is blue! We have red iron based blood, but contrary to popular belief, we are not pink, lol..... not a serious question, not looking for an answer.
What I wouldnt do to spend an hour with an orion female...
A green snatch not sure if i could 😂🤣😅😂🥹
Lets look at the Orion women. I mean Orion culture.😂
Love the Orion great video.
I vote CHISS
I have to say I've always thought the orions would make an interesting character to be added somewhere in the original 4 Series ask Dylan or just regular reoccurring Merchant I wish we could have got that trackman downhill with Enterprise
is ENTERPRISE some alternate timeline (as I seem to recall an episode of ENTERPRISE that revealed that Orion women were commonly the masters of the males (their slaves))?... oh, hadn't heard the later-part of the video yet (where you talk about that a little) - I guess that kind of echoes human-history, where people sort of '"justify" owning slaves' by the slavery they- or others of their ethnicity-had gone through.
Do you ever do Fantasy races? If so could you do dark elves from Marvel Comics/Movies?
It is actually the Orion Institute of Cosmetology, not Cosmology.
Please an episode focusing on the Orion women. I find their uh culture very interesting
I just watched the lower decks episode with them. So i thought id watch the culture index
The depiction of the Orions in the Animated Series was a definite anomaly : perhaps they were in disguise again... 🖖
fun fact: Caesar was prounounced Kaisar by the romans.
And then such a culture gave us the cute nerd Tendi.
It would be nice to be able to beam down to Orion in STO.
Good work on the Orions women. Can you do more on them???
You've done Cardassians but I don't think you have done the other side in the Bajorans yet.
Where were they in TNG and DS9?
In the FASA role playing Orion was said to be a ringed planet of the Rigel system
My favourite ST humanoids :c
So just hyper sexualized humans lol
The West Winger .... yes. So? They like showing it of
Then there are the Deltans who have to take an oath of celibacy to go off world.
I pretty comsider them a funtional Matriarchy.
Their Pheromones can basically brainwash you.
My STO klink is a Orion female
Totally cut & paste from SHE-HULK
Welp, I'm a full on butts. Thanks for the video!
Should touch on the many other Rigelian species. Like the ancient Rats that still remember the first sentient species
Bit late to the party here, but this is great! As a player of several Kolari in various places (STO, Second Life, TTRPGs, etc), thank you so much for bringing together all this information and presenting it in a fine form...AND spearate and distinct from the Syndicate. Kudos!
Its amazing how many ape like mammals there are in the Galaxy 🤣
You can thank the Preservers for that 😊
Imagine having orions on the battle field, their pheromones could give moral boosts to your troops.
You liked the woman in blue. Not much clothes but what they is theres blue...
I'd like to see a Personnel File on Charles "Trip" Tucker III from Star Trek Enterprise please.
The slaves are in charge, therefore slavery is a good thing????
Hey Rick! Perhaps a cultural exposition on the Jem'Hadar is appropriate?