'Garbling' : From the verb 'to garble'; reproduce a distorted message, sound or transmission. Example: Garbled speech.... (sounds a lot like Linkedin, actually)
Given how they made a system that punishes honesty and rewards dishonesty, I'm starting to wonder if we're the fools. I mean, if we just put up a fake LinkedIn profile, and then made a discord server to act as a fake HR department for past employment references, we'd be all set to get any job we want.
People are constantly warning about Facebook and Google 'stealing your data' but are somehow fine with one single website being the gatekeeper to the entire labour market.
When I was last looking foolr work 1 place in a year was actually smart enough to actually use skype call so they dont have to waste both of our times and money if it ends up Im not what they wanted. And I thought they were overly specific in what they already want the applicant to be experienced in and so it did save me a whole day of travel after all.
I remembered the first day I installed the linked In I got depressed as hell because I saw everyone there is a CEO even 14-15 years many kids are CEO of some company. Everyone has 100 projects. Everyone has 10-year experience and around 100 certificates. Until I saw a CEO posted that he got a job as a Car mechanic in Apple.
You might as well join them and make yourself the CEO of Coca Cola or something you like. You can even join my company. I'll hire you as my VP Chief Financial Officer. Just write it down on your profile. I'm the Chief Revenue Officer at Oracle
you see many people commenting everywhere telling you, you can start your own business and be your own CEO and stuff, its basically these guys who just do something and list themselves as the CEO or founder or whatever.
You have my respect, Josh! I am an HR person and *uck: LinkedIn is so fake. I don't know what's more fake: Instagram or LinkedIn. I would equalize them for sure.
Not lately, due all these layoffs and all during lockdown. some HRs i know, who were posting motivational quotes every other day, went from "stay hungry, stay foolish", to, please help i got layed off. I am not fun of these people btw.
The funniest shit is those people with fancy clothes with titles like “IT-executive manager” or “IT operations expert”. And when you actually get to see their skills, they struggle sending mails through Outlook.
The shitty thing is, when you’re in certain fields, it’s really hard to get around having a LinkedIn. If you’re in marketing or sales and you don’t have one, they’ll hold it against you.
It's the employer's responsibility to do their due diligence and verify an employee's work history, background check, etc.., not LinkedIn :). If LinkedIn is your only source when hiring someone, you might need to get fired :).
LinkedIn is a joke. I never had one, yet every person I know want me to have it. Why? It's just another Facebook... No, I'll pass. Edit: this video is referred to on Reddit on a discussion
The only offers I've ever got on linkedin were to teach English in China. I looked it up, the recruiter gets ~25% of your salary. That about sums up linkedin
To confirm for everyone seeing this, recruiters don't get 25% of your salary. They charge companies 25% of your first year salary to find someone suitable for the job. You get paid 100%, the company pays 125%, the recruiter gets 25%.
Mr. Fluke and I go way back so I can rightfully comment on his leadership skills. In fact, he is such a great leader he became CEO of Facebook 10 years before Mark even had the idea. Mr. Fluke, kindly return the favour. I'll go make something up now so you can endorse it.
The last time I updated my LinkedIn profile was five years ago! I am approaching my forties, and to tell the truth to the young folks out there, you're revealing too much information about yourself on social media, especially LinkedIn (yes it's a social media too!) whither inadvertently or on purpose thinking this is the norm! Life didn't use to be like this, there was something called PRIVACY!
The joke with my developer/IT friends is how the sleazy HR peeps use LinkedIn to pick up people. They once told me about this guy that would literally check out girls, start talking to them, added them to their "network" with the promise of a maybe job, then took them out to coffee. Worst part? The guy's modus operandi did work.
Thats genius. Sleazy as fuck, yea, but genius. Although there is some sense to it. Dating sites are incentivised to not find you someone you would stay with. If they did find you someone then you would stop using it. Similarly linkedin probably wont get you a good job, only a lot of good job prospects. Its a place for hr to feel like they are usefull and people to feel like they have a lot of potential for networking but in reality it is all fake.
@@coopergates9680 Hinge is certainly a con for that reason. Not to mention their entire system is flawed. You can see who likes you without matching them. Therefore many people just sit there and wait for the likes to come in so they can pick and choose from a list of people who they know find them attractive already, instead of scrolling through people they haven't gotten a like from so you can match more authentically. As you can tell, this leads to a very large decrease in user interactions for the section of the app meant to find and like people, and in turn that lowers "useful" (liking someone) user interactions on the app in its entirety. This also means that the people who wait for the likes to roll in are also seeing a decrease in their likes over time. It's a lose-lose situation. People are surely deleting Hinge, but it's not because they're finding a match.
I'd go as far as to assume you either have no experience on the profile, or it's written like poorly. I consider LinkedIn to be absolutely great for job hunting. I've had dozens of job offers. Not sure why Josh has this bad of an opinion over it
Bogdan Ghiran no, I get a bunch of offers from recruiters on LinkedIn I barely hear back when I apply directly to companies through LinkedIn. And yeah josh is right about LinkedIn
I have companies reaching out to me directly on LinkedIn very often, of course there are recruiters too, but I normally ignore them. It's also a great way to make professional connections since you can find and connect to people with similar experience. The platform is as useful as you make it.
I endorse this man in his programming, A.I, and electrical engineering skills. We used to work together at Google when he was the CEO and I was the VP of Marketing. See how stupid that sounds? That's basically LinkedIn but with real sounding names and pictures that haven't been verified to even exist.
Having a 2 to 3 month job gap instantly shot me from graphic designer to wal mart employee. Seriously not a joke. My portfoilo did nothing because no one ever got to the point of asking to see it. I ended up at walmart only after mcdonalds deemed me "an overqualified flight risk". They said "you'll have a job soon with your skillset." To which i replied "well I've done over 50 applications, am broke and unemployed. How can i be a flight risk when i will be needing you to earn a living?" Still no job. It's so degrading to have skills and talents you hone and demonstrate only to be practically begging for a min wage job. Unfortunately that has become commonplace. Many days I have hummed to myself "oh I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more"
I know this is two years old but kiddo.... don't you know how to lie? I have gaps in my work history and I always had consecutive jobs on my resume. Nobody ever questioned it or even checked. Geez...
@@Ranteray what do you mean what kind of jobs? You work in job A from Jan to Sep - in real life, your next job started in Feb next year. Just extended your working period to February on your resume. In
I’m 61 and my wife is 54. I’ve gotten job offers from LinkedIn even recently, several high paying. So they’re out there (I do have an MBA, PMP and a few other certs but my age apparently wasn’t a factor). My wife, after a 10 month lapse with work, her idea, and she just got a decent paying (15% more than last position) management job working for a Space Force contractor. She does have 2 Masters Degrees but it was her confidence that landed her the job.
I always thought about how bad linkedin might actually be for me, causing premature biases from Hiring managers. It hasn't helped me much thus far, other than connect me with pretentious recruiters. When I applied to current job, my most recent job in my targeted resume was different from that in my linkedin profile. So, when I saw that my now supervisor looked up my profile immediately after my interview, it gave me major anxiety that they would think I'm a liar. I eventually got the job. Now that I'm looking for a change and will have to tweak my current role title to get into a new industry, I'll probably end up deactivating or hiding my linkedin profile to avoid having to constrain myself while editing my new resume.
YOU GAVE SOMEONE A RAISE?! I'm out here grinding for my novelty pens and snickers bars, not some 'money' corporate really don't know how to win their employees over jeez
True, I noticed these after being on Linked for years and while I wasn't active per say I did notice all of these inconsistencies. It's why deleted my account. The work gap problem...PREACH Its such a messy piece of bs and its true; in 2019 that's like death sentence. I honestly see where being your own brand on the internet is the antithesis of corporate bs. My dude Joshua over here being a such a whistle blower that I worry about his well being. (Knock on wood) Corporate, society, The Man don't like it when someone educates the masses on their bull. -Much respect and best wishes
I also noticed that you can't deactivate your LinkedIn profile either, you can only delete it entirely. I wanted to shut mine off temporarily but the only option is to scrap all your connections etc and start over from scratch if you rejoin. Sucks man, so deleted it anyway 😂
Great video. Linkedin - like Facebook - is SUPER CRAP. May their hard drives fail and their executives follow-through into their underpants after farting.
I'd love to see another video focused exclusively on job gaps and how it negatively affects looking for employment (I'm going through that situation right now!).
Never be afraid and suffer no guilt. It won't be the end of the world. In fact I think your life will improve if you delete LinkedIn as well as Facebook.
It is sad that this is pretty much the only youtube video which tells the truth about LinkedIn. Since becoming a data scientist I have become more aware of my data. Youre also right as photos and dates on LinkedIn can give away your protected characteristics which should not be part of the job application process. If a company requests me to get LinkedIn then I withdraw the application as they have no care for my privacy. I also refuse to send applications to companies which require me to fill out another application on their website (including address and graduation date) as well as a my full cv/cover letter. If I am treated as just a number before even applying, then what would it be like to work with them? I also don't like how tech companies post pictures and job titles of their employees on their website. Privacy is so important.
Linkedin: Its like an online car dealership full of desperate salesman swarming you with their offers except on Linkedin it's some kind of Life-Coaches, VC hunters, and Real Estate agents.
Honestly LinkedIn is been really good for me to find jobs. The fact that I don't have to apply to anything and get offers every single week just because I wrote "web developer" on LinkedIn is quite amazing.
@Peter Mortensen Yes, there were actual jobs for the most parts. I found many jobs this way. I had to turn a lot of them down because I can only work so many jobs ahah :P I posted that I was available for a new web dev position, got 70 calls in less than 2 days. I went to every single interview that was proposed to me, took me 2 weeks to do that. Then got plenty of offers.
Holy crap! I've been telling people for some time that while selling our data, in breech of contract, to each other, firms would also begin to claim "trading" our data is not "selling" it. Right, again.
My favorite is people who list Wharton or Harvard under the education section. If you truly matriculated you would 100% put the name of the degree you obtained like MS, MBA etc. A bunch of people don’t list their degrees. It’s unbelievable. They only took an evening class at top schools and claim they are “from” top schools. If degrees even matter either list them with 100% accuracy or leave them out. LinkedIn truly does not hold people accountable except it’s great showing gaps (which for some reason is a greater sin than lying about other things on the resume)
"Nobody actually uses LinkedIn unless you're looking for a job." Not true. When I visit offices of recruiting agencies, all I see are just rows and rows of open LinkedIn windows.
@Jerry Upshaw haha the endorsements feature is kind of a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" kind of deal. But so is everything in life. You get exactly what you put into LinkedIn.
Just wondering, has anyone actually gotten a job using LinkedIn? I have been applying for a lot of jobs lately and I don't think I have ever even gotten an interview from an employer at LinkedIn. All my callbacks and interviews have come from either Indeed posts (being careful to avoid fake-sounding or low-quality listings) or by applying directly on a company site.
I can tell you if by the time you are 40 if you haven't climbed the corporate ladder to at least the executive officer level you're doomed. Working for ANY company in almost any field is a risky proposition. All it takes is one corporate buyout or financial upheaval and you're done. Companies want young people. God help you if you find yourself involuntarily unemployed after the age of 40. Back in the time before time boomers could actually go to work for a company, and unless they screwed up could finish their career with a company, earning an actual pension. They had stability and relative job security. Ironically that all started to end once boomers started to get into upper management positions. Then they wanted a flatter management structure and started all this team building bullshit. Meaning they wanted a few highly compensated senior executives and a bunch of low-level expendable serfs. Oh, and the ladder to get to that senior executive status from serf level is pretty much over. You're not going to work your way up from the mailroom (hell there isn't even a mailroom anymore). Your only option is to jump from company to company, trying to get a higher rung on the ladder with each transition, hopefully landing in a senior executive position by 45. ....or go figure out a way to be your own boss, which actually isn't as relatively risky as it once was when compared to "employment".
@@sakayapapaya9589 Hang in there. Run lean and figure out a way to bring value to others by starting your own business. Personally, I'm a fraction of the materialistic consumer I was 20 years ago. I was such a status whore, fancy cars, real estate, clothes, watches, and fabulous vacations. Then I figured out the hard way being a slave to "stuff" is no way to live, and while I don't have the lifestyle I once had, I have a happy life.
@@JoshuaFluke1 Jeff Berwick unloads on the status quo in most of his videos too, but he does it with so much positive energy that it sounds like he is always smoking something. I like your videos, but out of all the channels I subscribe to you sound the most disgruntled.
omg you said the TRUTH about what I was thinking about last few months, I never got hired via LinkedIn, all the jobs interviews that I went to were for shitty jobs or for new businesses who have no idea how to function a business, it is full of shit, I'm using LinkedIn to rant about some companies/ employers (anonymously) who violated labor law, or discriminated people, Linkedin is a joke
I love the part about gaps in the CV. Happened to me as well. HR: So what did you do there? What I would have liked to say: I was looking for a job, you xxx moron.
yeah the gap stuff is stupid so there telling you ohh now your unemployable it hard enough your done with school and looking for a job but no ones want to hire because you have Autism and want to be honest upfront but for that you cant find a job when you have a college degree in electrical engineering and there is a shortage of people working in Engineering or IT so what do you need to do to get a job if a gap disqualifies you and what society calls a dissability makes you unable to get a job at your skill and inteligence level
They don't care about job gaps at all if you have an interesting resume. I had a hard time at the beginning because mine was really mainstream but I changed it over time and that make me land a job in Artificial Intelligence without an engineering degree
This is absolutely terrible advice. If you’re trying to get a job why would you not use the tools proven to get a job. You don’t own the game. You must play whether you like it or not
@@JoshuaFluke1 Joshua, realize i'm a huge fan of your channel and have been liking your content; the candor and how real you are. But I must challenge this video and its entire premise. Even if your points are valid, it's just too one-sided of a viewpoint to put other there, without the balancing side. That said, here are my rebuttals. When you say "There's probably not a job on LinkedIn that isn't cross-posted to other websites. Recruiters use every resource." This statement completely misses the point!!! LinkedIn is a "professional" networking tool first, before recruitment and all the other features. I've worked at many different companies and roles...and guess how I kept track of those relationships and professional contacts - you guessed it - LinkedIn. Just because you (Josh) don't use LinkedIn, or find value in the features doesn't mean it's worthless. 1.) You say... "No one really uses LinkedIn"? Come on! Do the research about usage statistics and the growth of LinkedIn. Would you still say with a straight face that "No one really uses LinkedIn?" 2.) If your argument is about giving away information - realize you are giving away way more information in this video than anything you'd find on LinkedIn. We see your house, your dogs, your couch, your face, e.t.c. How is that any better than someone putting a profile picture on their LinkedIn page? I just don't see your argument, or at the very least, it's weak and very misleading. Don't pick and choose - Privacy remains a concern on ALL platforms -not just LinkedIn, as you seem to portray. 3.) Anyone could be anyone on LinkedIn? True! But equally true is the fact that anyone could be anyone on a resume, on Facebook, on Twitter and yes, on RUclips. Nothing stops you from doing that on any platform either. So, I don't see your argument here. It's far easier for someone to impersonate being the CEO of Facebook on a resume than they would on a LinkedIn profile. As far as I know, there is no platform out there that can't be "gamed", if you really put your mind to it. 4.) Fake accounts and anyone can be anyone. Again, it's a problem every where. You can fake accounts and get more likes on your RUclips videos. It doesn't mean all youtubers do that, or that we should all delete our youtube accounts. Right? So, making that a point in your video doesn't prove anything. I'm taking the pain to challenge this because this advice could screw someone out there that should be leveraging LinkedIn to further their career or business. I'd appreciate a balanced perspective. Linkedin is not a panacea when it comes to building and sustaining a career. But it's a valuable tool to have in the tool belt for youngsters or experienced professionals alike looking to build their careers, find jobs, maintain their network or just keep up with industry trends.
I personally found LinkedIn very helpful and professional. I've managed to build a network through it, get job interviews and learn from like-minded group of professionals. I don't really agree with most of what's on this video. For example, you're complaining that you can't leave a job without a date, but you can do that on the resume. This sounds silly. If the company is too worried about gaps, they'll find out eventually anyway. If they didn't wanna discuss further with you after your LinkedIn profile, I don't see why they would consider it just because you got on a phone call with them. If they don't wanna hire someone with a career gap, not much you can do and you probably don't wanna work for them. Your concern about the picture, if they don't see it on your LinkedIn, I don't think you'll cover your face in the interview. They can still discriminate if they were going to. But as you said, if you're still concerned about that, you have the option of not uploading the photo. In regards to the "Verification Process". Yes, anyone can lie. The same way anyone can lie on their resume as well. Your LinkedIn profile is pretty much your resume that could get you an interview. If you managed to proceed, chances are they'll do the necessary checks to verify before you're hired. So, it's probably not in anyone's interest to lie on LinkedIn. It'll only bite them at the end. It's not a magic tool that will get you a job. It's a great platform that brings together candidates, recruiters and jobs and I see people complaining that "Recruiters ghosted them". Just because we had some very negative experiences with recruiters, that has nothing to do with LinkedIn. It's that person. If you meet that same recruiter at a cocktail party instead, chances are you'll have a similar experience.
@@cjcj7387 Sure just take a walk, and you'll accidentally bump into the recruiter who will help you land your next job. Joke aside, why work harder than you have to? If my choice is between going to job fairs or just post my profile, I'll do the latter as it gives me more time to focus on other things than work.
Sister in law got a "PHD" from their chiro program... 400k worth of debt and 3 or 4 sugar daddies later, she got it paid off and a nice pair of bolt ons.
**UPDATE** - I have been banned from Linkedin.
What rhymes with Marble-ing?
Gargling deez nuts. Got'em.
Guaranteed to increase your salary.
😘
Got eeeem
'Garbling' :
From the verb 'to garble'; reproduce a distorted message, sound or transmission.
Example: Garbled speech.... (sounds a lot like Linkedin, actually)
May I have a job master?
Great video, totally agree with you 110% but what are people supposed to use if not LinkedIn
Truly inspiring. I became ex google ceo and ex facebook engineer overnight, thanks Josh
Bless up
I'm actually an ex-google and ex-facebook tech lead as well. Glad to meet one of mine out here on youtube.
I sometimes think the TechLead is full of shit
Given how they made a system that punishes honesty and rewards dishonesty, I'm starting to wonder if we're the fools.
I mean, if we just put up a fake LinkedIn profile, and then made a discord server to act as a fake HR department for past employment references, we'd be all set to get any job we want.
I became dishonest overnight, you mean.
A job gap means that you're a slave who has been outside the plantation and you might start sharing ideas of freedom with the other slaves.
So _that's_ why they don't like them. Thanks, I'll have to remember that.
It's really hard to play the part of slave who is drinking the koolaid. I'm needing a break to get away. Have hardly any gaps in the last 7 years.
I needed this laugh bud thank you
try that in your next interview, it's a great sell of.
@@oourdumb agree.
People are constantly warning about Facebook and Google 'stealing your data' but are somehow fine with one single website being the gatekeeper to the entire labour market.
100% agree with you.
Couldn't have been put better.
i wouldnt call it the whole labour market
Linked In literally only exists so HR people can justify their jobs. It's also made recruiters so incredibly lazy and bad at their job
Really. Really. Really fucking bad at their jobs.
They would be bad at their job without LinkedIn.
I also love how everyone invent their job title on this site lol
When I was last looking foolr work 1 place in a year was actually smart enough to actually use skype call so they dont have to waste both of our times and money if it ends up Im not what they wanted. And I thought they were overly specific in what they already want the applicant to be experienced in and so it did save me a whole day of travel after all.
They were always bad at It.
I remembered the first day I installed the linked In I got depressed as hell because I saw everyone there is a CEO even 14-15 years many kids are CEO of some company. Everyone has 100 projects. Everyone has 10-year experience and around 100 certificates.
Until
I saw a CEO posted that he got a job as a Car mechanic in Apple.
You might as well join them and make yourself the CEO of Coca Cola or something you like. You can even join my company. I'll hire you as my VP Chief Financial Officer. Just write it down on your profile. I'm the Chief Revenue Officer at Oracle
Ironically there must've been mechanics at Apple when they were working on a self driving car for a bit before dropping the project
you see many people commenting everywhere telling you, you can start your own business and be your own CEO and stuff, its basically these guys who just do something and list themselves as the CEO or founder or whatever.
So true Haha, the same for me.
you shouldnt feel insecure about it
You have my respect, Josh! I am an HR person and *uck: LinkedIn is so fake. I don't know what's more fake: Instagram or LinkedIn. I would equalize them for sure.
So true. LinkedIn and Instagram are equally disturbing
Thanks to linkedin I am now the CEO of the internet
LinkedIn is like heaven: Everybody is perfectly happy.
like all other social media
Not lately, due all these layoffs and all during lockdown. some HRs i know, who were posting motivational quotes every other day, went from "stay hungry, stay foolish", to, please help i got layed off. I am not fun of these people btw.
@@eddielookingbeautifulbravo8 except reddit
I know people who are nearly retarded and on linkedin they seems to be genius.
@@enstrop it takes a genius to understand a genius
"I have a certification in certifying things" - That was nice.
The funniest shit is those people with fancy clothes with titles like “IT-executive manager” or “IT operations expert”. And when you actually get to see their skills, they struggle sending mails through Outlook.
Hahahahahahah
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omg, I never imagined that I've been watching videos of the CEO of Facebook, Google, Microsoft and etc.
OMG. I am gonna piss my pants right now.
The shitty thing is, when you’re in certain fields, it’s really hard to get around having a LinkedIn. If you’re in marketing or sales and you don’t have one, they’ll hold it against you.
They ban you but yet still keep 3 pages of accounts with names that say LinkedIn Sucks. Shows what garbage they are.
If almost nobody knows about them, it isn't worth the time banning them. Only the "revolution" leaders get punished.
It's the employer's responsibility to do their due diligence and verify an employee's work history, background check, etc.., not LinkedIn :). If LinkedIn is your only source when hiring someone, you might need to get fired :).
Exactly
I've deleted everything years ago. Only platforms I have an account right now is YT and Twitter using fake data ofc.
It's insane that even a 3 month job gap seems to raise alarms
Yeah. I've taken 3-6 months off multiple times. Just to remodel my home, etc. Difficult finding a job if you're not 💯% committed to the hamster wheel.
God forbid a woman (gasp!) have a baby and take 3 months off.
I didn't work for 20 years, would that raise any concerns? I'm doing pretty well right now self-employed making $40/hr doing full time gig work.
Why do job gaps even matter?
@@MaharlikaAWA it means that something is deeply wrong with you!!! 🤣
Job gap discrimination. Make it a thing.
LinkedIn is a joke. I never had one, yet every person I know want me to have it. Why? It's just another Facebook... No, I'll pass.
Edit: this video is referred to on Reddit on a discussion
“Certified Corporate Cringe Scout” 😂😂😂
That had me crying laughing.
@@astrarai-thesobercoder me too
The only offers I've ever got on linkedin were to teach English in China. I looked it up, the recruiter gets ~25% of your salary. That about sums up linkedin
To confirm for everyone seeing this, recruiters don't get 25% of your salary. They charge companies 25% of your first year salary to find someone suitable for the job. You get paid 100%, the company pays 125%, the recruiter gets 25%.
@@13redlion13 Which straight up destroys their connection with the capable recruiter. Its not a smart thing to do when you own a big business.
LinkedIn is a meme goldmine
Show me
Mr. Fluke and I go way back so I can rightfully comment on his leadership skills. In fact, he is such a great leader he became CEO of Facebook 10 years before Mark even had the idea.
Mr. Fluke, kindly return the favour. I'll go make something up now so you can endorse it.
🤣🤣
“Alright it says here on your LinkedIn profile that you’re the CEO of... the FBI?”
“The Federal Boobies Inspection agency, yes.”
The last time I updated my LinkedIn profile was five years ago! I am approaching my forties, and to tell the truth to the young folks out there, you're revealing too much information about yourself on social media, especially LinkedIn (yes it's a social media too!) whither inadvertently or on purpose thinking this is the norm! Life didn't use to be like this, there was something called PRIVACY!
Yeah just blame it on the young folks like they even have a choice.
thank god I'm not the odd one out here. Alot of people feel the same way. 😅
Now I feel bad for having a LinkedIn profile, with pic and CV
same lmaooo
link pls
@@filipelimartins wanna hire? lol
@@quazar-omega wanna see if it's cute.
Filipe Martins freak
6:18 using comic sans to assert *_maximum dominance_* . I like this guy
The joke with my developer/IT friends is how the sleazy HR peeps use LinkedIn to pick up people. They once told me about this guy that would literally check out girls, start talking to them, added them to their "network" with the promise of a maybe job, then took them out to coffee. Worst part? The guy's modus operandi did work.
Thats genius. Sleazy as fuck, yea, but genius. Although there is some sense to it. Dating sites are incentivised to not find you someone you would stay with. If they did find you someone then you would stop using it. Similarly linkedin probably wont get you a good job, only a lot of good job prospects. Its a place for hr to feel like they are usefull and people to feel like they have a lot of potential for networking but in reality it is all fake.
@@shdowdrgonrider Did the Hinge app catch onto this and thus advertise that it gets deleted after someone finds a match? Is that just a con?
At my old job we called it “Industrial FuckFinder”
BASED!
@@coopergates9680 Hinge is certainly a con for that reason. Not to mention their entire system is flawed. You can see who likes you without matching them. Therefore many people just sit there and wait for the likes to come in so they can pick and choose from a list of people who they know find them attractive already, instead of scrolling through people they haven't gotten a like from so you can match more authentically. As you can tell, this leads to a very large decrease in user interactions for the section of the app meant to find and like people, and in turn that lowers "useful" (liking someone) user interactions on the app in its entirety. This also means that the people who wait for the likes to roll in are also seeing a decrease in their likes over time. It's a lose-lose situation. People are surely deleting Hinge, but it's not because they're finding a match.
LinkedIn for businesses is like what Instagram is for Influencers.
It's the same fake smiles and the same scetchy offerings ngl
Fact: I’ve never had job offers from LinkedIn. Only Indeed.
Yes. indeed.
Батхонгор Чагнаа indeed that is correct
I'd go as far as to assume you either have no experience on the profile, or it's written like poorly. I consider LinkedIn to be absolutely great for job hunting. I've had dozens of job offers.
Not sure why Josh has this bad of an opinion over it
Bogdan Ghiran no, I get a bunch of offers from recruiters on LinkedIn I barely hear back when I apply directly to companies through LinkedIn. And yeah josh is right about LinkedIn
I have companies reaching out to me directly on LinkedIn very often, of course there are recruiters too, but I normally ignore them. It's also a great way to make professional connections since you can find and connect to people with similar experience. The platform is as useful as you make it.
I'm the CEO of Area 51 & the federal reserve!!!! Lol
Thats it, deleting my linkedin and imma start to meme there too.
Wow, this guy is a CEO of Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Amazon etc.
He's not the captain, he's a field marshall of industry.
I endorse this man in his programming, A.I, and electrical engineering skills. We used to work together at Google when he was the CEO and I was the VP of Marketing. See how stupid that sounds? That's basically LinkedIn but with real sounding names and pictures that haven't been verified to even exist.
Having a 2 to 3 month job gap instantly shot me from graphic designer to wal mart employee. Seriously not a joke. My portfoilo did nothing because no one ever got to the point of asking to see it. I ended up at walmart only after mcdonalds deemed me "an overqualified flight risk". They said "you'll have a job soon with your skillset." To which i replied "well I've done over 50 applications, am broke and unemployed. How can i be a flight risk when i will be needing you to earn a living?" Still no job. It's so degrading to have skills and talents you hone and demonstrate only to be practically begging for a min wage job. Unfortunately that has become commonplace. Many days I have hummed to myself "oh I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more"
I know this is two years old but kiddo.... don't you know how to lie?
I have gaps in my work history and I always had consecutive jobs on my resume. Nobody ever questioned it or even checked.
Geez...
@@cheshirecat2641 what kind of jobs do you mention in the gaps? could you give me some examples, please?
@@Ranteray what do you mean what kind of jobs?
You work in job A from Jan to Sep - in real life, your next job started in Feb next year. Just extended your working period to February on your resume.
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@@cheshirecat2641 ah I understand now.. you just extend it.. thanks..
I’m 61 and my wife is 54. I’ve gotten job offers from LinkedIn even recently, several high paying. So they’re out there (I do have an MBA, PMP and a few other certs but my age apparently wasn’t a factor). My wife, after a 10 month lapse with work, her idea, and she just got a decent paying (15% more than last position) management job working for a Space Force contractor. She does have 2 Masters Degrees but it was her confidence that landed her the job.
i hate contract jobs
Bruh I work a contract now and I love the flexibility of schedules I have but the company don’t like it
your ceo voice sounds like a cheap version of cr1t1cal
cr1t1kal also sounds like a cheap version of himself
Don't forget about "LinkedIn premium")
Which is the biggest joke.
I always thought about how bad linkedin might actually be for me, causing premature biases from Hiring managers. It hasn't helped me much thus far, other than connect me with pretentious recruiters. When I applied to current job, my most recent job in my targeted resume was different from that in my linkedin profile. So, when I saw that my now supervisor looked up my profile immediately after my interview, it gave me major anxiety that they would think I'm a liar. I eventually got the job. Now that I'm looking for a change and will have to tweak my current role title to get into a new industry, I'll probably end up deactivating or hiding my linkedin profile to avoid having to constrain myself while editing my new resume.
YOU GAVE SOMEONE A RAISE?! I'm out here grinding for my novelty pens and snickers bars, not some 'money' corporate really don't know how to win their employees over jeez
Josh:Linkedin is garbage
LeRUclips: Showing Linkedin ads in this video.
RUclips : Did you like my irony?
True, I noticed these after being on Linked for years and while I wasn't active per say I did notice all of these inconsistencies. It's why deleted my account.
The work gap problem...PREACH Its such a messy piece of bs and its true; in 2019 that's like death sentence. I honestly see where being your own brand on the internet is the antithesis of corporate bs.
My dude Joshua over here being a such a whistle blower that I worry about his well being. (Knock on wood) Corporate, society, The Man don't like it when someone educates the masses on their bull.
-Much respect and best wishes
I also noticed that you can't deactivate your LinkedIn profile either, you can only delete it entirely. I wanted to shut mine off temporarily but the only option is to scrap all your connections etc and start over from scratch if you rejoin. Sucks man, so deleted it anyway 😂
You can hibernate it.
Great video. Linkedin - like Facebook - is SUPER CRAP. May their hard drives fail and their executives follow-through into their underpants after farting.
I'd love to see another video focused exclusively on job gaps and how it negatively affects looking for employment (I'm going through that situation right now!).
Get a friend to be your boss and use him as a contact for a company that youve worked for..... A made up company.
Gotta be honest. I now want to get rid of my linked in, but holy heck i'm scared to do so.
Never be afraid and suffer no guilt. It won't be the end of the world. In fact I think your life will improve if you delete LinkedIn as well as Facebook.
“uhhmkayy- so your CEO voice is none other than Mr. Mackey uhmmkayyy”
It is sad that this is pretty much the only youtube video which tells the truth about LinkedIn. Since becoming a data scientist I have become more aware of my data. Youre also right as photos and dates on LinkedIn can give away your protected characteristics which should not be part of the job application process. If a company requests me to get LinkedIn then I withdraw the application as they have no care for my privacy. I also refuse to send applications to companies which require me to fill out another application on their website (including address and graduation date) as well as a my full cv/cover letter. If I am treated as just a number before even applying, then what would it be like to work with them? I also don't like how tech companies post pictures and job titles of their employees on their website. Privacy is so important.
I was recently contacted by a woman who crearly have a profil pic generated by machine learning software
Linkedin: Its like an online car dealership full of desperate salesman swarming you with their offers except on Linkedin it's some kind of Life-Coaches, VC hunters, and Real Estate agents.
Lol I’m cracking up at the LinkedIn ad popping up mid rant.
My employees have no job gaps, are multidisciplined, cheap, and build their own name tags out of macaroni.
And I made them buy the macaroni -_$
you mean you made Their parents buy the macaroni.
Honestly LinkedIn is been really good for me to find jobs. The fact that I don't have to apply to anything and get offers every single week just because I wrote "web developer" on LinkedIn is quite amazing.
@Peter Mortensen Yes, there were actual jobs for the most parts. I found many jobs this way. I had to turn a lot of them down because I can only work so many jobs ahah :P
I posted that I was available for a new web dev position, got 70 calls in less than 2 days. I went to every single interview that was proposed to me, took me 2 weeks to do that. Then got plenty of offers.
#humblebrag
Plot twist: He's actually Sundar Pichai, who wants to rant about linkedin without getting sued
There's demand for the job gap video, at least from me. I never get why it matters.
Job gap = employers see you as incompetent if you have at least 6 months or more of a gap.
Job gap? I’m acquiring new skills 😂
I'm in a career development class so LinkedIn is sure to come up. I'll be sure to send this video to the whole class.
The whole adding a picture to linkedin is completely terrible. Employers only use it to discriminate or creep on candidates.
8:10 "This sounds like selling your data with extra steps", Rick and Morty
Because of this and privacy reasons, I quit Linked In.
I am now happier :D
Bruh. I just now took off my LinkedIn picture because I’m black and I’m sick of the discrimination. Holy fuck!!
That's intense
Holy crap! I've been telling people for some time that while selling our data, in breech of contract, to each other, firms would also begin to claim "trading" our data is not "selling" it. Right, again.
It always cracks me up when I look at my colleagues Linked In job titles. Looks like our company has 100 CTOs.
ex google techlead?
next level
ex google CEO
My favorite is people who list Wharton or Harvard under the education section. If you truly matriculated you would 100% put the name of the degree you obtained like MS, MBA etc. A bunch of people don’t list their degrees. It’s unbelievable. They only took an evening class at top schools and claim they are “from” top schools. If degrees even matter either list them with 100% accuracy or leave them out. LinkedIn truly does not hold people accountable except it’s great showing gaps (which for some reason is a greater sin than lying about other things on the resume)
I have seen people take a free online course from Stanford and then write they are a Stanford grad. Linked in is a joke.
@@TrollMeister_ lmao what the hell
"Nobody actually uses LinkedIn unless you're looking for a job."
Not true. When I visit offices of recruiting agencies, all I see are just rows and rows of open LinkedIn windows.
@Jerry Upshaw haha the endorsements feature is kind of a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" kind of deal. But so is everything in life. You get exactly what you put into LinkedIn.
I had to use LinkedIn for a university course. Damn thing went through all the contacts on my phone and asked them to join.
No thanks.
Just wondering, has anyone actually gotten a job using LinkedIn? I have been applying for a lot of jobs lately and I don't think I have ever even gotten an interview from an employer at LinkedIn. All my callbacks and interviews have come from either Indeed posts (being careful to avoid fake-sounding or low-quality listings) or by applying directly on a company site.
I’ve mostly gotten jobs from Indeed also. Maybe Linked in is more tech jobs
Nope. I never have.
Nope never. LinkedIn is useless for jobs.
Why does josh sound like critical when he does the voice after the google video
Imagine living life if you're voice was actually that by default :joyemoji: :kappa:
Joshua Fluke holy hell. I would kick my own ass 😂
I created a bogus profile account on LinkedIn to try and test it out on employers. I even have 40 people linked to me....or follow me I should say
Hah! The meta-entrepreneur at 1:38 puts "grades are an illusion" for his college education but puts his high school GPA on there as well...
“The University of Life” until 2026? Does he expect something to happen to him in 2026? Seemed so close to getting that Bachelor’s but yet so far
@@chad.andersen I know right!? Is he predicting his own mortality? Or is that just when he reaches true enlightenment?
I hope nobody takes my linked-in profile seriously - it's only social media, after all...
Please keep making these videos. Most people are not aware of the true purpose of LinkedIn.
I've always considered linkedin as bull. It's another Facebook but with a "professional" front. I consider it dangerous.
Truth 💯
I can tell you if by the time you are 40 if you haven't climbed the corporate ladder to at least the executive officer level you're doomed. Working for ANY company in almost any field is a risky proposition. All it takes is one corporate buyout or financial upheaval and you're done. Companies want young people. God help you if you find yourself involuntarily unemployed after the age of 40. Back in the time before time boomers could actually go to work for a company, and unless they screwed up could finish their career with a company, earning an actual pension. They had stability and relative job security. Ironically that all started to end once boomers started to get into upper management positions. Then they wanted a flatter management structure and started all this team building bullshit. Meaning they wanted a few highly compensated senior executives and a bunch of low-level expendable serfs. Oh, and the ladder to get to that senior executive status from serf level is pretty much over. You're not going to work your way up from the mailroom (hell there isn't even a mailroom anymore). Your only option is to jump from company to company, trying to get a higher rung on the ladder with each transition, hopefully landing in a senior executive position by 45. ....or go figure out a way to be your own boss, which actually isn't as relatively risky as it once was when compared to "employment".
Yep. Living this nightmare right now.
@@sakayapapaya9589 Hang in there. Run lean and figure out a way to bring value to others by starting your own business. Personally, I'm a fraction of the materialistic consumer I was 20 years ago. I was such a status whore, fancy cars, real estate, clothes, watches, and fabulous vacations. Then I figured out the hard way being a slave to "stuff" is no way to live, and while I don't have the lifestyle I once had, I have a happy life.
LinkedIn is like Instagram for Professionals
🤣
PlotTwist: This guy might actually be the CEO of Google
Dude why you sound so depressed and disgruntled all the time. Be happy man!
Wat
@@JoshuaFluke1 Jeff Berwick unloads on the status quo in most of his videos too, but he does it with so much positive energy that it sounds like he is always smoking something. I like your videos, but out of all the channels I subscribe to you sound the most disgruntled.
I was required to upload photo ID once. I did. I'm ashamed
Sir, this is the internet. Everything written here is gospel. Please do not ask questions
LMFAOOO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PERSON YOU DONT KNOW
Am I the only one who likes LinkedIn and actually found a good job using it?
No you’re not but it didn’t work out for him so you have to hate it also! Otherwise it would be his own fault? That can’t be it
omg you said the TRUTH about what I was thinking about last few months, I never got hired via LinkedIn, all the jobs interviews that I went to were for shitty jobs or for new businesses who have no idea how to function a business, it is full of shit, I'm using LinkedIn to rant about some companies/ employers (anonymously) who violated labor law, or discriminated people, Linkedin is a joke
I love the part about gaps in the CV. Happened to me as well.
HR: So what did you do there?
What I would have liked to say: I was looking for a job, you xxx moron.
and I love how you say "HR Lady"😂
yeah the gap stuff is stupid so there telling you ohh now your unemployable it hard enough your done with school and looking for a job but no ones want to hire because you have Autism and want to be honest upfront but for that you cant find a job when you have a college degree in electrical engineering and there is a shortage of people working in Engineering or IT so what do you need to do to get a job if a gap disqualifies you and what society calls a dissability makes you unable to get a job at your skill and inteligence level
They don't care about job gaps at all if you have an interesting resume. I had a hard time at the beginning because mine was really mainstream but I changed it over time and that make me land a job in Artificial Intelligence without an engineering degree
Now that sounds great, how did you get the skills and convice the gatekeepers to interview you? :-)
This is absolutely terrible advice. If you’re trying to get a job why would you not use the tools proven to get a job. You don’t own the game. You must play whether you like it or not
Lmao that voice in the intro had me dude, sorta reminds me of mr mackay from south park
Keep them guessing. Have a blank LinkedIn profile without any info. Just your name and title.
once after a webinar, a guy asked us to endorse his skills in linkedin in exchange for a free e-book
Don't know if I agree with your analysis. LinkedIn can be quite valuable resource for job seekers and to showcase your portfolio.
There's probably not a job on linkedin that isn't cross posted to other websites. Recruiters use every resource.
@@JoshuaFluke1 Joshua, realize i'm a huge fan of your channel and have been liking your content; the candor and how real you are. But I must challenge this video and its entire premise. Even if your points are valid, it's just too one-sided of a viewpoint to put other there, without the balancing side. That said, here are my rebuttals.
When you say "There's probably not a job on LinkedIn that isn't cross-posted to other websites. Recruiters use every resource."
This statement completely misses the point!!!
LinkedIn is a "professional" networking tool first, before recruitment and all the other features. I've worked at many different companies and roles...and guess how I kept track of those relationships and professional contacts - you guessed it - LinkedIn.
Just because you (Josh) don't use LinkedIn, or find value in the features doesn't mean it's worthless.
1.) You say... "No one really uses LinkedIn"? Come on! Do the research about usage statistics and the growth of LinkedIn. Would you still say with a straight face that "No one really uses LinkedIn?"
2.) If your argument is about giving away information - realize you are giving away way more information in this video than anything you'd find on LinkedIn. We see your house, your dogs, your couch, your face, e.t.c. How is that any better than someone putting a profile picture on their LinkedIn page? I just don't see your argument, or at the very least, it's weak and very misleading. Don't pick and choose - Privacy remains a concern on ALL platforms -not just LinkedIn, as you seem to portray.
3.) Anyone could be anyone on LinkedIn? True! But equally true is the fact that anyone could be anyone on a resume, on Facebook, on Twitter and yes, on RUclips. Nothing stops you from doing that on any platform either. So, I don't see your argument here. It's far easier for someone to impersonate being the CEO of Facebook on a resume than they would on a LinkedIn profile. As far as I know, there is no platform out there that can't be "gamed", if you really put your mind to it.
4.) Fake accounts and anyone can be anyone. Again, it's a problem every where. You can fake accounts and get more likes on your RUclips videos. It doesn't mean all youtubers do that, or that we should all delete our youtube accounts. Right? So, making that a point in your video doesn't prove anything.
I'm taking the pain to challenge this because this advice could screw someone out there that should be leveraging LinkedIn to further their career or business. I'd appreciate a balanced perspective.
Linkedin is not a panacea when it comes to building and sustaining a career. But it's a valuable tool to have in the tool belt for youngsters or experienced professionals alike looking to build their careers, find jobs, maintain their network or just keep up with industry trends.
@@demohub I firmly think linkedin is trash that recruiters use to spam your inbox.
@@JoshuaFluke1 Well...you've got strong opinions. we would agree to disagree!
Some of your arguments against LinkedIn apply equally or even more so against other social media sites, most acutely Facebook.
fbk is not a job hunting professional site
I wasn't gonna comment, but while watching this video i got my first LinkedIn message in the last 6 months. They're definitely listening lol.
I personally found LinkedIn very helpful and professional. I've managed to build a network through it, get job interviews and learn from like-minded group of professionals. I don't really agree with most of what's on this video. For example, you're complaining that you can't leave a job without a date, but you can do that on the resume. This sounds silly. If the company is too worried about gaps, they'll find out eventually anyway. If they didn't wanna discuss further with you after your LinkedIn profile, I don't see why they would consider it just because you got on a phone call with them. If they don't wanna hire someone with a career gap, not much you can do and you probably don't wanna work for them.
Your concern about the picture, if they don't see it on your LinkedIn, I don't think you'll cover your face in the interview. They can still discriminate if they were going to. But as you said, if you're still concerned about that, you have the option of not uploading the photo.
In regards to the "Verification Process". Yes, anyone can lie. The same way anyone can lie on their resume as well.
Your LinkedIn profile is pretty much your resume that could get you an interview. If you managed to proceed, chances are they'll do the necessary checks to verify before you're hired. So, it's probably not in anyone's interest to lie on LinkedIn. It'll only bite them at the end.
It's not a magic tool that will get you a job. It's a great platform that brings together candidates, recruiters and jobs and I see people complaining that "Recruiters ghosted them". Just because we had some very negative experiences with recruiters, that has nothing to do with LinkedIn. It's that person. If you meet that same recruiter at a cocktail party instead, chances are you'll have a similar experience.
Did you know that you can build a network by actually. . .meeting people? I mean wow all you have to do is ...go outside! Neat huh?
@@cjcj7387 Sure just take a walk, and you'll accidentally bump into the recruiter who will help you land your next job.
Joke aside, why work harder than you have to? If my choice is between going to job fairs or just post my profile, I'll do the latter as it gives me more time to focus on other things than work.
I`ve deleted my linked in account
UNivEriSITy of L!Fe OMG IM DYING
Sister in law got a "PHD" from their chiro program... 400k worth of debt and 3 or 4 sugar daddies later, she got it paid off and a nice pair of bolt ons.
What about a job offer letter or appointment letter copy, that could be a great verification.
linkedin just feels like twitter but everyone acts good with each other! 🤨
a recruiter once confessed to me that they use linkedin because they think displaying your information publicly means you're not lying.