My experiences with a pen display were not good. Maybe I would have liked it a little bit more if I got something bigger than a 16-in, but I found that it hurt my back and my neck because of how I had to sit in order to use it, I tried to have it standing straight up in front of me, but then it would make my arms tired because I had to have my arm lifted up to draw on it. Also, having my hand block a significant portion of what I was seeing was annoying. I used it for maybe a year or so before I felt like no amount of adjusting would make me like it, and in the end I changed the active area to one of my normal monitors and tried using it as a regular pen tablet, like what I had been using it before I got the pen display, and it was a night and day difference. I found that I could still draw perfectly fine, and all of the stuff that had been annoying me was gone. I could sit in a comfortable posture, I could have my head facing straightforward at my monitor instead of craning my neck down to look at the pen display, etc and I use 24-in monitors, one of them is a tiny bit smaller, and even though they were farther away and the amount of my field of view that they took up was probably about the same as the pen display because of how close I had been keeping that to my face, since I wasn't looking so close I wasn't straining my eyes, and it just felt more spacious looking at a regular monitor. Some people will be able to think about these things and figure out what they want without having to waste money trying a pen display and then finding out the hard way that it's not for them, but unfortunately I think a lot of people will have to make that mistake of buying it and trying it to know its not for them.
This is criminally underrated. thank you very much for the valuable information, like and comment for the algorithm. In my case, I'm moving away from a Cintiq 16 because of the posture/neck problems it gave me hunching over it. I haven't decided yet on a medium or large Intuos Pro. I get 2.45 and 1.8 scaling with my 27 inch monitor respectively. Do you think a medium would be enough or should I go for the large? Thank you very much.
Thank you so much for the comment! I really appreciate it! A medium sized Intuos is definitely enough. Even though these days I use a large Intuos, the medium offers a great balance of cost and drawing feel. I used a medium Intuos for many years with my 27" monitors and was very happy with the feel.
@@thesevenpens thank you very much for helping me make my mind. I will go with the medium. Was looking for an excuse to go with the medium tbh. It'll go nicely with my desk. Thank you again, man, that video is too well made.
For a graphics display its best to get a monitor arm that can support the weight. You can also raise,lower and even tilt and angle the display to your liking. I have an erotron HX holding the 24 inch cintiq display and its what I use everyday. I occasionally do move it to the side and switch to my intuos tablets and look at my 34 inch widescreen monitor. I have experience on both and can use both, though if theres someone new who believes just buying an expensive item and believing that such a device will produce good works out of the box will be greatly disappointed. A tablet or display tablet is just a tool, an extension of a person. Its up to the user to know and have experience so they can create art. For anyone out there looking for a tablet, look for one that fits your budget, is good quality and offers high pen pressure and pen tilt along with an eraser on the back fn the pen. Theres even used tablets on ebay that can be purchased 2nd hand for those on a tight budget.
Why do professionals artists use 20 inches or above for pen displays but then only 15 inches for pen tablets. is there a reason for this, I like drawing with my arm and traditionalally I don't work on anything under a4
Just got myself a second hand intuos Pro Large (2017) for real cheap, and after testing it feels like its waay to big for my monitor considering its a 24.1". I also have the Pro Medium (2017) and it just feels nicer to be honest, at least with a monitor of such size.
I also noticed something I'm not sure if anyone else experienced it. The smaller the pen tablet, the faster I draw??? I finished my drawings faster when I used a small Intuos (square one) than when I used a medium Xencelabs tablet (which is my favourite tablet) Maybe because I also use a 15" inch laptop, so that makes a difference?
Interesting. Personally I'm not sure if I have noticed that. But since physically smaller strokes on smaller pen tablets produce larger strokes on a display, I could see that some people could feel that way.
Quick question if you don't mind, coming over from a reddit post I saw you in. Looking to buy my first display tablet after quite some time, so far I have it narrowed down to these two since they're pretty much the same price and regarded fairly well, * 2022 HUION Kamvas Pro 16 2.5K * HUION Kamvas 22 Plus I was originally considering doing them refurbished via the manufacturer as it would save quite a chunk but for something like this I'm told new is advised. Happen to have any thoughts on these two and which may be the better choice? Or even possibly another option up to this price range of 5-600? Thanks and keep up the great work!
The choice between these two is interesting: - I really like the 2.5K resolution - it's is a nice sweet spot for resolution. - When I am really drawing I prefer the 22" size over the 16" size. For me the 22" size just feels more natural for my body height and arm length, how my desk is setup, and the distance away I like to sit away from the pen display - which for me is with my arm extended and the elbow at a slight tilt. The other thing that goes into this for me is I like to see all my tool palettes onscreen when I draw and I don't make the canvas fullscreen. I might like the 16" just as much if I used a full screen canvas in my apps more. - My ideal pen display would be 22" at 2.5K if I could find it.
@@thesevenpens Thanks for the reply! And that's pretty much where I'm at as well, 16 2.5k is great resolution wise but lacking in size for that more natural feel and 22" 1080p seems to just be hitting a bit low now a days sadly but would provide the right feel as you said. I really wish 22" 2.5k as an option. Price wise I might have to go with the 22" it seems, though I did come across a couple of other new options since posting if you don't mind giving me your input, - The non plus version of the 24" 2.5k which I could potentially get for around the same price as these other two, its biggest draw seem to be that it uses the generic screen protector over etched ( I think) and a bit lower contrast, I also don't know how old this model is due to the way the marketing is. - And if I stretch a bit above that there is the 24" 2.5k plus. Which would probably be the ideal one if fund become available. Thanks again!
@@Riful I just realized there is apparently a model Huion has that is 22" and 2.5K. The Kamvas RDS-220. Unfortunately I can't find it for sale anywhere. See this reddit thread www.reddit.com/r/huion/comments/wsfxw4/anyone_have_anymore_info_on_the_huion_kamvas/ And there is the page on Huion's website: www.huion.com/pen_display/Kamvas/kamvas-rds-220.html
- My standard recommendation is a Wacom Intuos Pro Medium (model number PTH-660) if you want the best drawing experience and cost is no issue (~$380 USD) - The Wacom Intuos Medium (CTL-6100WL) for a still very good drawing experience at a more moderate price. (~$170 USD) -- The Huion HS611 also offers a decent good drawing experience and a relatively low price (~$80 USD). I think this Huion is fine tablet for someone getting started. I have one myself and it works great for everything I use the Wacoms for.
@@thesevenpens how does the XP-Pen deco 03 compare with the huion HS611 pen tablet? Is xp-pen even good? The xp-pen Deco 03 comes with a 2.4ghz wireless and has 11.47 inch diagonal display size (10"x5.62") Both about the same costs. Btw excellent video. It cleared so much for me. And I don't have the luxury to make returns in my country so I can't try a lot of stuff
Hii! I am considering to buy XP Pen Deco Pro.. although i confused which size i should buy. The small (9x5) version sits perfectly within my budget, the medium (11x6) version is kind of over my budget.. but as this is going to be my first pen tablet, i really don't know about the sizes. I will use it for 2D/ 3D model animations.. So which size you think is should buy?? Any suggestions??
If you are drawing, I highly recommend the medium size. Most people who are drawing feel that a small size feels too small for them and some people even - myself included - find that their hand hurts when using a small tablet.
Heey, any thoughts on H1161 and HS610? I've been thinking about swapping out my oldie H420 that I haven't used much because of it's size and these two options seem the most suitable for my budget
I'd say go with the HS611 since it uses newer pen (PW500 instead of PW100) The H1161 is very slightly bigger but I don't think that matters so much. Also I have used the HS611 I think it's a fine tablet. It feels a little plasticy compared to Huion's newer tablets but it was fine to draw with.
Hi I have a question is deco min 7 good or Deco small size good ? I have a drawing tablet that is 10 moons G10 I had a hard time carrying the drawing tablet from school to home cuz it's so damn big and it barely fits on my bag also i noticed that the drawing tablet I had is so hard to use especially whenever I draw it doesn't feel so right cuz whwnever i draw straight lines and justa circle or square it doesn't do it perfectly, i kept checking myself to draw in trad just to make usure if its right but I guess the brand im using is terrible
I think that size (deco mini 7) works if you are doing things like photo editing. But for drawing it is a little too small in my opinion. Though a lot of people seem to be fine with it I don't typically recommend that size.
The XP Pen Deco Mini 7 pen tablet is in the class of small active areas (7in x 4.37inch with an 8.25in diagonal size). For drawing I would recommend a medium size pen tablet with at least a 10.5in diagonal. I think that size will feel overall better for your hand while drawing.
@@ZenitsuKunn That’s great that is your first! I remember my first one too - it was a small one also and it made such an amazing difference in my drawing. After that I could never go back to using a mouse. Hope you have lots of fun with it!
@@ZenitsuKunn That’s great that is your first! I remember my first one too - it was a small one also and it made such an amazing difference in my drawing. After that I could never go back to using a mouse. Hope you have lots of fun with it!
@@thesevenpens Woah! It's fascinating how you used a mouse to draw, I've been using it while waiting for the deco mini 7 to arrive. It's hard 😅 Well, have a great day ahead of you!
@@Villem3792 For that I would recommend a medium sized pen tablet. It’s the best compromise between size, Cost, ergonomics, And space that it occupies on a desk.
This video is so impressive in its scientific approach and removed all my confusion on which tablet to pick. Great work 👏 wow
Thank you for the comment! I'm so happy to hear it was helpful!
It cleared a bunch of thoughts on switching to a pen display, makes me appreciate my back more! brother this is some good stuff right here.
Happy to hear you found it useful! Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video! Exactly what I needed to know.
This is literally one of the most informative channels about everything drawing tablets! thank you so much for making these videos.
Thank you for such a nice comment! I really appreciate it!
My experiences with a pen display were not good. Maybe I would have liked it a little bit more if I got something bigger than a 16-in, but I found that it hurt my back and my neck because of how I had to sit in order to use it, I tried to have it standing straight up in front of me, but then it would make my arms tired because I had to have my arm lifted up to draw on it. Also, having my hand block a significant portion of what I was seeing was annoying. I used it for maybe a year or so before I felt like no amount of adjusting would make me like it, and in the end I changed the active area to one of my normal monitors and tried using it as a regular pen tablet, like what I had been using it before I got the pen display, and it was a night and day difference. I found that I could still draw perfectly fine, and all of the stuff that had been annoying me was gone. I could sit in a comfortable posture, I could have my head facing straightforward at my monitor instead of craning my neck down to look at the pen display, etc and I use 24-in monitors, one of them is a tiny bit smaller, and even though they were farther away and the amount of my field of view that they took up was probably about the same as the pen display because of how close I had been keeping that to my face, since I wasn't looking so close I wasn't straining my eyes, and it just felt more spacious looking at a regular monitor. Some people will be able to think about these things and figure out what they want without having to waste money trying a pen display and then finding out the hard way that it's not for them, but unfortunately I think a lot of people will have to make that mistake of buying it and trying it to know its not for them.
This is criminally underrated. thank you very much for the valuable information, like and comment for the algorithm. In my case, I'm moving away from a Cintiq 16 because of the posture/neck problems it gave me hunching over it. I haven't decided yet on a medium or large Intuos Pro. I get 2.45 and 1.8 scaling with my 27 inch monitor respectively. Do you think a medium would be enough or should I go for the large? Thank you very much.
Thank you so much for the comment! I really appreciate it! A medium sized Intuos is definitely enough. Even though these days I use a large Intuos, the medium offers a great balance of cost and drawing feel. I used a medium Intuos for many years with my 27" monitors and was very happy with the feel.
@@thesevenpens thank you very much for helping me make my mind. I will go with the medium. Was looking for an excuse to go with the medium tbh. It'll go nicely with my desk. Thank you again, man, that video is too well made.
Glad to be of help! Hope you have a great time with your new tablet!
Best video on selecting the right size, should have a million views at least, thank you for sharing...
Thanks for the comment! I'm so happy you liked the video!
For a graphics display its best to get a monitor arm that can support the weight. You can also raise,lower and even tilt and angle the display to your liking. I have an erotron HX holding the 24 inch cintiq display and its what I use everyday. I occasionally do move it to the side and switch to my intuos tablets and look at my 34 inch widescreen monitor.
I have experience on both and can use both, though if theres someone new who believes just buying an expensive item and believing that such a device will produce good works out of the box will be greatly disappointed.
A tablet or display tablet is just a tool, an extension of a person. Its up to the user to know and have experience so they can create art.
For anyone out there looking for a tablet, look for one that fits your budget, is good quality and offers high pen pressure and pen tilt along with an eraser on the back fn the pen. Theres even used tablets on ebay that can be purchased 2nd hand for those on a tight budget.
Why do professionals artists use 20 inches or above for pen displays but then only 15 inches for pen tablets.
is there a reason for this, I like drawing with my arm and traditionalally I don't work on anything under a4
Just got myself a second hand intuos Pro Large (2017) for real cheap, and after testing it feels like its waay to big for my monitor considering its a 24.1". I also have the Pro Medium (2017) and it just feels nicer to be honest, at least with a monitor of such size.
I also noticed something I'm not sure if anyone else experienced it. The smaller the pen tablet, the faster I draw??? I finished my drawings faster when I used a small Intuos (square one) than when I used a medium Xencelabs tablet (which is my favourite tablet)
Maybe because I also use a 15" inch laptop, so that makes a difference?
Interesting. Personally I'm not sure if I have noticed that. But since physically smaller strokes on smaller pen tablets produce larger strokes on a display, I could see that some people could feel that way.
Quick question if you don't mind, coming over from a reddit post I saw you in. Looking to buy my first display tablet after quite some time, so far I have it narrowed down to these two since they're pretty much the same price and regarded fairly well,
* 2022 HUION Kamvas Pro 16 2.5K
* HUION Kamvas 22 Plus
I was originally considering doing them refurbished via the manufacturer as it would save quite a chunk but for something like this I'm told new is advised. Happen to have any thoughts on these two and which may be the better choice? Or even possibly another option up to this price range of 5-600? Thanks and keep up the great work!
The choice between these two is interesting:
- I really like the 2.5K resolution - it's is a nice sweet spot for resolution.
- When I am really drawing I prefer the 22" size over the 16" size.
For me the 22" size just feels more natural for my body height and arm length, how my desk is setup, and the distance away I like to sit away from the pen display - which for me is with my arm extended and the elbow at a slight tilt. The other thing that goes into this for me is I like to see all my tool palettes onscreen when I draw and I don't make the canvas fullscreen. I might like the 16" just as much if I used a full screen canvas in my apps more.
- My ideal pen display would be 22" at 2.5K if I could find it.
@@thesevenpens Thanks for the reply! And that's pretty much where I'm at as well, 16 2.5k is great resolution wise but lacking in size for that more natural feel and 22" 1080p seems to just be hitting a bit low now a days sadly but would provide the right feel as you said. I really wish 22" 2.5k as an option. Price wise I might have to go with the 22" it seems, though I did come across a couple of other new options since posting if you don't mind giving me your input,
- The non plus version of the 24" 2.5k which I could potentially get for around the same price as these other two, its biggest draw seem to be that it uses the generic screen protector over etched ( I think) and a bit lower contrast, I also don't know how old this model is due to the way the marketing is.
- And if I stretch a bit above that there is the 24" 2.5k plus. Which would probably be the ideal one if fund become available.
Thanks again!
@@Riful I just realized there is apparently a model Huion has that is 22" and 2.5K. The Kamvas RDS-220. Unfortunately I can't find it for sale anywhere. See this reddit thread www.reddit.com/r/huion/comments/wsfxw4/anyone_have_anymore_info_on_the_huion_kamvas/
And there is the page on Huion's website: www.huion.com/pen_display/Kamvas/kamvas-rds-220.html
@@thesevenpens Just shot you a chat over on reddit so you don't have to keep coming all back over here.
Great video, tyvm!
Thank you!!
What would be a good started tablet? Screen less also preferably cheap
- My standard recommendation is a Wacom Intuos Pro Medium (model number PTH-660) if you want the best drawing experience and cost is no issue (~$380 USD)
- The Wacom Intuos Medium (CTL-6100WL) for a still very good drawing experience at a more moderate price. (~$170 USD)
-- The Huion HS611 also offers a decent good drawing experience and a relatively low price (~$80 USD). I think this Huion is fine tablet for someone getting started. I have one myself and it works great for everything I use the Wacoms for.
@@thesevenpens can i do 3d art in wacom intrus pro medium?
@@mdhjamil Yes! Lots of people do 3D work with that model.
@@thesevenpens how does the XP-Pen deco 03 compare with the huion HS611 pen tablet? Is xp-pen even good? The xp-pen Deco 03 comes with a 2.4ghz wireless and has 11.47 inch diagonal display size (10"x5.62") Both about the same costs.
Btw excellent video. It cleared so much for me. And I don't have the luxury to make returns in my country so I can't try a lot of stuff
Hii! I am considering to buy XP Pen Deco Pro.. although i confused which size i should buy. The small (9x5) version sits perfectly within my budget, the medium (11x6) version is kind of over my budget.. but as this is going to be my first pen tablet, i really don't know about the sizes. I will use it for 2D/ 3D model animations.. So which size you think is should buy?? Any suggestions??
If you are drawing, I highly recommend the medium size. Most people who are drawing feel that a small size feels too small for them and some people even - myself included - find that their hand hurts when using a small tablet.
Which pen tab would u recommend for note taking for a student on tight budget?
Check out Teoh on Tech - he did some budget options recently
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@@thesevenpens thak you sooooooo much!!
What about Inspiroy Giano G930L [16 " diag} vs Intuos Pro large[16 " diag} [16 " diag} ?
Giano G930L - which I use also - is a little larger than the Intuos Pro Large (PTH-860). I really like the Giano for creative work!
Great video! +1 Sub
Thank you!
Heey, any thoughts on H1161 and HS610? I've been thinking about swapping out my oldie H420 that I haven't used much because of it's size and these two options seem the most suitable for my budget
I'd say go with the HS611 since it uses newer pen (PW500 instead of PW100)
The H1161 is very slightly bigger but I don't think that matters so much.
Also I have used the HS611 I think it's a fine tablet. It feels a little plasticy compared to Huion's newer tablets but it was fine to draw with.
Hi I have a question is deco min 7 good or Deco small size good ? I have a drawing tablet that is 10 moons G10 I had a hard time carrying the drawing tablet from school to home cuz it's so damn big and it barely fits on my bag also i noticed that the drawing tablet I had is so hard to use especially whenever I draw it doesn't feel so right cuz whwnever i draw straight lines and justa circle or square it doesn't do it perfectly, i kept checking myself to draw in trad just to make usure if its right but I guess the brand im using is terrible
I think that size (deco mini 7) works if you are doing things like photo editing. But for drawing it is a little too small in my opinion. Though a lot of people seem to be fine with it I don't typically recommend that size.
Does the Xp pen Deco mini 7 have a good size for me to draw on?
The XP Pen Deco Mini 7 pen tablet is in the class of small active areas (7in x 4.37inch with an 8.25in diagonal size). For drawing I would recommend a medium size pen tablet with at least a 10.5in diagonal. I think that size will feel overall better for your hand while drawing.
@@thesevenpens thank you! I bought it nonetheless since its affordable and it's my first graphic tablet :)
@@ZenitsuKunn That’s great that is your first! I remember my first one too - it was a small one also and it made such an amazing difference in my drawing. After that I could never go back to using a mouse. Hope you have lots of fun with it!
@@ZenitsuKunn That’s great that is your first! I remember my first one too - it was a small one also and it made such an amazing difference in my drawing. After that I could never go back to using a mouse. Hope you have lots of fun with it!
@@thesevenpens Woah! It's fascinating how you used a mouse to draw, I've been using it while waiting for the deco mini 7 to arrive. It's hard 😅 Well, have a great day ahead of you!
i can't decide which one to get Intuos S or Intuos M...
Are you planning on doing artwork, or photo editing, or just using it for a mouse replacement?
Artwork
@@Villem3792 For that I would recommend a medium sized pen tablet. It’s the best compromise between size, Cost, ergonomics, And space that it occupies on a desk.
I think im still going with the S, i will use it on laptop mainly.