I have worked in several dental offices as a dental hygienist for the last 30 years. I have seen lots of inadequate dental work. But dentists NEVER, EVER tell the patients the truth. They prefer to protect the dental community instead of protecting the patient. I would like to ask these 2 dental surgeons how many times have they reported low quality dental work from their colleagues. I bet they have never done it. Even here in this video, they are biting their tongues before saying too much. One of these doctors said that he doesn't want to throw anyone under the bus. Dental boards are control by dentists. If the dentists do not throw anybody under the bus, who would?
My dentist argued with his nurse that dropped a tool and he wanted her to use it.. she said no!! He had no idea I was in medical too and that was a no no! So I know what you mean!!
I've had more than a few dentists insist that I need unnecessary procedures . I always make sure to quietly ask the hygienist if everything is good and what do u need, before the dentist comes in.
@@36skittle Thank you for your comment. That is a helpful advice for our readers. I thing most people do not know, though, that hygienists are not allowed to diagnose. I had had, in the past, problems with dentists and managers, for giving my treatment opinion to patients. Some dentists have even order me not to talk to patients about their mouths at all. "Just do the cleaning" . I have bad news for you. I have worked in dental offices for 30 years. There are more dishonest dentists than honest ones. Let me give you an advice: Ask the hygienists where they take their family members for dental treatment.
Even after the completion of 6 additional years following dental school, training in a top tier university, performing hundreds of surgeries, becoming board certified (consisting of both written and oral exams), and practicing for nearly 20 years, I am STILL learning, still CONTINUE improving techniques, NEVER use non-proprietary components or materials, and I have never felt like a “master implantologist.” I see billboards and ads making claims of superiority when knowing firsthand the level of inexperience and training. Referrals related to failed, disaster cases that have left people totally toothless, infected, chronic pain, accelerates bone loss, not to mention the massive financial losses, have increased rapidly over the past few years. In many instances, few if any options remain because of the devastating and irreversible consequences. I, and my colleagues, have made formal complaints to the state licensing board and the dental board. Sadly and consistently, I’m told they will try and “look into it” but they are utterly overwhelmed with issues. I’ve been told the lion share of cases investigated deal with providers caught using their own drug supplies, mainly opioids. SO, I and others have NO problem reporting (and I don’t consider it “throwing someone under the bus” when they are taking advantage, preying upon, and in many cases, destroying lives) those who commit malpractice but like most government agencies, the complaints do NOTHING and as a result, NOTHING seems to change.
Thank you for saying: listening to the patient is important. I had 2 implants placed 6 years ago and immediately felt something was not right. I went back to the surgeon (and other specialists) multiple times and was told everything looked good. I believed them and I gave up. I also believe that those in the dental field protect each other. Now, 6 years later, I have a mess and expense I am currently going through. Two failed implants, extreme bone loss and multiple surgeries, 6 unit bridge. I am watching this crying because I didn't fight for myself.
so sad...I'm sorry. You should demand that they make it right. I have an implant that I think is failing. I see the specialist in 2 weeks. I don't think the crown was placed right by my dentist and I'm not paying for a redo...I will tell her that. With my last visit, she was trying to say that my gum was inflamed...well, it wasn't inflamed right before she placed the crown and I've been taking care of my gums and teeth. I don't smoke or drink. SMH
It’s not just due to lack of training. People need to see the news report in its entirety. It’s the metals used that some people have reactions to. They aren’t 100% titanium. Tests also showed small filaments of metals on the implants after manufacturing. There’s also risk of constant infections. The best dentist in the world with all the training and experience to fit them properly does not rule out all the other risks, which usually start with the product before it enters a persons body.
I have 7 years with misguided health problems. 5 years treated with drugs n I needed a cpap. 3 days later I was 100% better. gulbladder taken out. big mistake So many times I have lost years of my life cause they think we're nuts
With what you guys are saying I totally changed my mind about getting implants! To go into debt to get them and have problems with them all the time is just not worth it! Terrible odds!
I have mine. Full upper and lowers with no problems. Just do your research and be sure you choose a good clinic that cares and knows what they are doing like I did. But with that said surgery is never guaranteed to be 100% successful. The human body is very complex and things can go wrong. This is why I put off surgery on my lower spine because there is no guarantee it will work. I will only get the surgery done when I don't have a choice.
Yes, I do agree and I was seriously considering implants but I don't like the odds. Might I add that age is a serious consideration because who in their 60s , 70s and beyond wants to spend time being miserable with implants when life expectancy is 80-85 years! Not to be morbid but that has to be a consideration.
Had one dental implant, a lower molar, done over 25 years ago now, but by a highly skilled orthodontist, and it's still holding up perfect to this very day, never one problem at all with it!
You must have maintained oral hygiene very well. Normally dental implants may last 10-20yr, but if maintained well can last longer. Just like driving a car you may need regular maintenance 😊
As a dental student who previously worked for oral surgeons, periodontists, and general dentists who placed implants... I think the issue is a lack of regulation. In dental school, there is almost zero training on implant placement and NO dental grad is ready to place implants right out of dental school without a surgical residency (oral surgery or periodontics). The fact that a new grad is able to place an implant the day after graduation without ever holding an implant before is absolutely insane. SPECIALISTS oftentimes are the ones doing a great job, while general dentists are here experimenting on patients. A doctor's first implant should not be placed in his office without oversight, but should be placed in school/residency. From my POV as a student learning dentistry, that is the biggest issue. I have seen general dentists have a 20% failure rate because they don't know what they are doing, and I have seen proper surgeons who place 3,000 a year with less than a dozen failing who then study the hell out of those failures to understand WHY
@@billparrish9200 University of Maryland has new equipment for robotic surgery AI has to learn from its mistakes this is a minority area and the air is very bad and a lot of people are sick
Dude I'm struggling so hard right now for this exact reason. I'm 32 my teeth genetically suck ass I've put 20 grand into fixing my teeth in the last 10 years and now I'm about to get full implants up and bottom. I don't even want to tell you what this shit's going to cost and it's freaking me the fuck out. I'm so stressed out thinking about the cost of this. It shouldn't be like this. Even for me to go to the doctor once a month cost me almost $400 and I have insurance! My deductible is $4,000 though so I have to spend $4,000 cash on medical care throughout the year before my insurance covers dick and then I still have to cover a percentage of it. I pay $350 a month for this shit ass health insurance. I only have it so that I don't go completely bankrupt if I get cancer some crazy shit like that. It sucks dude. It's garbage totally broken system. I've been using voice to text so if it's grammatically fucked it is what it is 😂
I just went through almost 2 years, here in North Texas, of "dentists" that couldn't get 1 implant really right...over $10,000.000...there is no real oversight when it comes to dentists...Smiles Generation...what a joke...they can always find ways to justify their incompetence...I refuse to call them "doctors"
I've been a dental Lab Tech for over 45yrs. I've been doing implant retained dentures from the very beginning with introduction of staple implants and hader-bars. One of my dentist was interested in starting to implement implant retained dentures into his practice. He invited me to attend a seminar to learn the whole process. He was very well respected for the quality of his work and success and happiness of his patients. Drs should be required to attend classes to be certified in order to do implants. Oral surgeons are responsible for building the foundation to which the dentist and lab tech are to build the denture upon. If he fails no amount of effort will correct it to provide an optimal result for the patient. Knowledge and training is overlooked when money is involved.
Since you're a lab tech, I'd like to ask you a question, if you will. I had several implants 2 years ago. My dentist says the lab didn't make the crowns correctly so I needed another scan. Well, so far I've had 3 scans. Between scans it has taken 3-4 MONTHS for the lab to produce crowns which never seem to work. Is it at all possible that a lab can take so long to make crowns? It's been 2 years and no crowns? It's starting to sound very suspicious to me. Why would anyone continue to use a lab that takes so long to produce and then produce a substandard product? What are your thoughts?
I’ve had one implant at 68 years old, by an oral surgeon at the dental school in Louiville. It’s perfect. No trouble and was also check by many surgeons at the school before being released. It was a year of being checked periodically. Honestly I did not know that unqualified dentists were able to perform oral surgery. My periodontist does everything possible to save teeth but my front tooth was knocked out.
I had a root canal on a lower back molar. The Guta percha material that fills the canal was protruding out the end of the root. Which I didn’t know for a year and a half. Two weeks after that molar was root canaled a second time I began having debilitating migraine 3 to 5 times a week and they were medication resistant. Meaning my medication wasn’t working on the migraines. I also had not had any migraine since I was a teenager and had braces. So I finally went and had it pulled and that’s when they saw the guta percha sticking out too far hitting a major nerve. The trigeminal nerve! So yes dental work can make you sick, very sick and you never know what it may be.
I am suffering from trigeminal nerve on one side of my face. And I have root canal treatment on upper tooth number 4.. the pain is quite strong, it started 6 years ago, the tooth was done years before. I probably need to pull it out and pray for less nerve pain. What if this helps..would be magical
I’m literally in the exact same position, I thought I was a rare case lol. I’m getting the tooth pulled in a few weeks and hope to someday get an implant if all goes well
@@ashyyyxd864 I am thinking about zirconia implants for the upper jaw. The nerve pain brings a lot of misery. Probably titanium are ok but I have a lot of inflammation around my ear on that side and I am allergic to niceI.. who knows what's the best ha ha
I got a 1 molar implant in the early 90s. Done by an oral surgeon. It was a gruesome procedure. I moved to another state a few years later, and my new dentist showed me it was loose, so I went to a prosthodontist and it was in at an angle, caused by the surgeon running the drill too hot, which made it slip. It got too loose, so I had it removed, which is a really awful surgery, as the bone grows around it. Frightening pain after. I got an expensive bridge, which outlasted my other teeth and now have dentures. I can't eat with them, but I get by. Everyone tries to sell me implants, esp general dentists. But never, ever again. Plus I can't afford them. That one implant cost me $10,000 in 1991 money, plus the previous root canal and crowns, an apecoectomy (?) surgery deep in the bone to try to cure the intractable pain, and finally extraction, then implant, then removal, 3 span bridge, dentures. I bet I spent $30,000 on that *one* tooth (80s/90s $). It's a crime that dental insurance is so bad. Dentures were my cheapest option, esp now being disabled, so I had to give up chewing with teeth, because of the root canal/crown or bridge expense, and 'mystery' pain. I have friends and family going through the same issues, esp if disabled and/or have difficult finances. Dental work for seniors is out of the reach of many, unless you retired with more than a simple pension, and didn't lose it during the various financial crises.
You are so right about dental insurance being so bad to the point it should be a crime. My dental insurance is $1,500 a year and it's split up and applied to every procedure so its like not having insurance, I still have to pay way over 50% of all the costs out of pocket.
I'm appalled at the complete lack of accountability across the whole field of dentistry. I'm sure there a great dentists out there but unfortunately I have run into 2 who shouldn't be allowed to practice even basic dentistry. Only due to slight leaks in my molars when I was very a very young child, I had to have small fillings in all my back teeth. Fast forward to 12 years ago, I went to have a small cavity filled in a front tooth. The dentist was keen to replace all my other fillings with composites. A bit of slight of hand by the administrative staff had them covered by my insurance and I spent over a week feeling so sick. Only after did I educate myself and learn that amalgam fillings should be removed in a well ventilated room, with a dental dam.... where I was in a windowless, unventilated room with no dam. After 1 year I ended up with 13 cavities and had to have 2 teeth pulled, a root canal and several fillings. Only then did I notice that any composite material was cured multiple times during the process, as the filling was built up. All the fillings the previous fillings were "packed" and only then we're they cured once. When I moved I switched to a different dental clinic and had work done over the past 3 years. Amalgams had shrunk, loosened and resulted in cavities but I began to notice dark shadows at the gumline. After my last filling I asked if I could have an x-ray. I'd had a single implant this year and was generally concerned about further decay/ complications). The result- all the teeth this dentist had worked on were decayed below the gumline and will have to be extracted. Leaving no back teeth at all!!! That I was able to spot an issue with no training. While this dentist was filling one of these rotten teeth, he completely missed this during the examinations. In fact I'd been in for work several times in the past 3 years, some recently yet not once did he pick up on any problems So now he's telling me I'll need all replaced with implants as dentures won't be appropriate for a mouth condition I have had for 3 years called Lichen Planus. It will never happen. I've no ability to pay the huge cost of top and bottom implants to replace all these teeth. I know I'm not alone, being only one among many who took great care of their teeth, and through lack of experience and bad judgment will be losing all my back teeth. It's soul destroying. Already find it a huge challenge to eat with severe Lichen Planus but add to that, no back teeth. Not to mention what this will do to my appearance and overall health, bone loss, lack of support for my front teeth. I once had a loving smile and feel totally robbed of that through no fault of my own. Dentistry is such a profit minded business I have no silly thought of some dentist taking pity on me enough to want to help me!
I went dentist with emergency infected tooth, he treated the wrong one. After I went another dentist he discover the infectioned tooth still there. The dumb dentist didn't know read X ray. Don't go to chain company that rent room, buy second hands equipment in Ebay, hire student to train you mouth.
Licen planus…did it come from trauma to the gums…may I suggest you have a very serious look at Dr. Berg on RUclips. He has a lot of info on Auto immune disorders. The body is amazing give it what it needs and it will heal itself. ❤
@@kikipurnell2542 I had a very similar experience. This dentist got good reviews. I personally saw him on TV talking about his business and how long he's been placing in dental implants. My worst mistake ever. He did a terrible job. I'm in the process of taking him to Court to my money back.
Sorry you've been thru so much. Don''t give up on needed implants. A friend of ours needed major work he couldn't afford and went to a dental school. These were front top teeth some molars. He paid like $400.00 for all the work they did. Hoping the best for you.
I'm about to be 70, and getting my 3rd individual implant. When I looked at the cost of a root canal and crown, VS implant and crown... the cost was about the same. Given my positive experience with the previous 2 implants, I opted for another. All work has been with an Oral Surgeon and I've been more than satisfied with the results. The only "complaint" I've got is the length of time from extraction to crown.. about 9 months.. but they are worth it. I've heard pricing horror stories, but shop around.
I had two implants (front upper) about 20 or so years ago. Both failed, and came out with bone attached. While they were in, I felt majorly ill, like my body was rejecting them. I know that titanium is supposed to be impervious to that, but it happened. Ironically, when they came out, I instantly felt better. Unfortunately, it's messed up my dental health in many ways ever since.
Did you have any other treatment since then? How long was the implant in there?did it keep bothering after the implant? Where did you get it done from?
@@DefendHumanity Done in the suburbs of Chicago. Doc sent me to a great prosthodontist who put in a six tooth long Maryland bridge. That was good until quite recently. It's actually heading back in the right direction now. Also I didn't mean to imply that the failure was due to titanium rejection. They probably just weren't put in right. Mine were also in the front and those are trickier.
@@mirrormirror444the guy that did my implants felt pretty bad about it and recommended another prosthodontist who's very well-known and really excellent. He recently retired but this is decades ago and I got a Maryland bridge that spanned six teeth. That was the fix. Today I still have half of that Maryland bridge and a floating tooth and have lost a couple more teeth since then for unrelated reasons. Actually have a decent setup as long as the rest of my teeth can hold out for a little longer. Most people won't have access to someone who can do a Maryland bridge that spans six teeth however, although that was 25 years ago now. I think for most people now in plants are pretty safe but just to go with someone who has a really good track record and has been doing it a long time. The key is having something really solid to base that implant in so I'd be leery of any implants in the front.
As someone who went to Clearchoice to have the all in 4 procedure done when I was 27 there’s no chance in hell I’d ever goto a normal dentist to do anything to my mouth or implants. It’s not as simple and drilling and placing a screw. If you want implants ESPECIALLY full bridge uppers and lowers fixed or removable take your ass to a legit place that specializes in that. Full 3D skull scans, in depth moulding being done, etc. Like these guys said, if they are not talking about the end point get up and walk out. It’s called the backwards planning process, start with an endpoint and work backwards in the steps to where you are now and come up with a plan of action. They should be able to do every single step in the process and discuss in detail all the steps. 4 implants evenly spaced on top and bottom; clearchoice does angled rear implants as opposed to vertical and vertical for the 2 in the middle for both upper and lower but I think either method is fine. For Christ’s sake do your due diligence in who you get to do it because if it’s done wrong that’s tens of thousands and a shit load of pain and misery. When I got mine done it’s sucked ass for about a week but it’s been solid for 13 years now. Might have to go get new upper and lower dentures but frankly it’s like going in for an oil change. If you want permanent dentures and not removable make damn sure they leave a large enough space to clean the implants and done rest the prosthetic on the gums. I had to get mine changed because I started having problems but once they altered it it was fine no issues
All on x has inherent flaws as well and the pendulum is starting to swing towards doing more single implant and implant bridges. For all on x they have to amputate a good portion of your maxillary or mandibular bone to get enough clearance for the FP-3 prosthesis. Inherently this bothers me as we were always taught to preserve bone.
@@budenifyyep, they do indeed have to do that. They basically grind your lower jaw bone down to make it an even surface. I didn’t say it was perfect though, I just said I’ve been good to go. In 20 more years? Probably not. But I would expect to have numerous issues any way I went tbh.
Thank you for this video very help full. We all need to be held accountable , not to speak out against bad work only makes all dentists look bad and greedy. You all end up being painted with the same brush, the good lumped in with the bad. So defend your honor and reputation and do not feel bad for hurting the feelings of the ones who did not do the work and only wanted the rewards based on your work and reputation.
My dentist who happens to specialized in implants and had lots of training and had done 3 implants in my maxillary jaw did me the favor by referring me to a periodontist because mandibular implants are more complicated because of the mental nerve so after doing a CBCT scan, the periodontist told me that he doesn't want to put 21 & 20 together because tooth 20 would be to close to the nerve so we did an implant on 21 & 19 and was made an implant supported bridge with a pontic. The only thing that annoying is having to clean under the pontic.
The dental implant business is very profitable. Dentists get angry with their patients when the patient complains about issues related to the procedures. Dentists like to blame the patient for implants failing. That happened to me and that is why I haven't continued treatment because of all the money I spent already. That dentist didn't mind because he's still taking money from people and taking advantage of people, who are just to smile and eat solid foods for a change. Thanks for sharing this video.
BTW. It was not implant. But as I child I broke two front teeth. He made caps and messed up. They looked terrible and caused ALL other teeth to be misaligned. And constantly infected. Then gum and bone issues. An abcess that went into my sinus cavities required emergency surgery. Oh like it was my fault. Hell no. That was over 50 years ago. Various dentists. They could never fix it. Never refered me to a specialist. This is a medical issues NOT cosmetic!!!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge to freely. You are helping so many of us. I'm planning on switching providers for my implant to someone who listens instead of allowing her staff to provide all the information. I've gotten more from these videos than from the surgeon.
Wow you guys are awesome.. The absolute raw truth right here.. I was a treatment coordinator for many years for a dentist.. Keep on stating your truths.. Seriously some need thrown under the bus to protect these patients!!!!!
Implant training here in the UK is rigorous and long. I can't understand what's going on in the states with this. Any British dentist doing work this bad would quickly find himself in court. And not on civil charges either.
I was unlucky and had my teeth messed up in UK. The dentist was still in practice despite a pending court case. He took our money and disappeared to South Africa before his case. His work standard was abysmal and one poor guy was left mid treatment. I went to Turkey for remedial work by a great skilled man who described my mouth as a catastrophe. He cannot be found now so cannot be sued! He was a Dr Shah, a crook!
A badly done root canal gave me MS……thousands have had the same experience…..the guy who was the head of the US root canal association is now the biggest anti root canal guy. Dr Peter Francis, aUK specialist who has treated more than 10000 MS patients said….45 percent of those cases were due to DENTAL PROBLEMS
As a CDA I witnessed this all the time, so many people with failed implants. There was never a big plan, it was aweful. I'm retired now and I find your honesty extremely refreshing.
Once the money is gone, who will repair the damage done to me? Not the office who did it! Paid cash! I have a jar full of teeth and implant material that has come out of my mouth. I took many trips to his office for repairs since month one. It's been several years and I am disfigured, in pain and disgusted!!! Bone health? Forget it. Any confidence in how to find a responsible dentist is out the window.The name of the person who did this to me is Harold Wayne Brueggen.
So sad to hear that. I visited a lot of doctors. Most of them want to install an expensive implant, and only one of them told me I have no bone to do it and I need to try to save my teeth. It were my cheapest and wisest decision.
@@kebcarter4752 google reviews help me to find my dentist, gnatologist and paradontist. I did KT with occlusion and without it and sent it by email to all who get most stars review on google and ask their advise. Hope you stay well.
@@nataliepodgainova6582 Hello and thank you for for your input. The thing is that I did do due diligence. He has put himself as a top ten of Vogue. Vogue! He also claimed to SUPER DENTIST of Houston. I followed the lies and they ate just LIES.
It is nice to plan ahead, but... My teeth were hollowed out for amalgam fillings ~50 years ago, and it has been downhill since then. I have been implanting teeth as they fail, and now have 6 implants. In one case, a 2nd molar implant was placed too close to my 1st molar by a periodontist, so tissue never properly regrew between them. Months later, the 1st molar was rotted out, so I had to also implant the 1st molar right next to the 2nd molar implant. I have another 1st next to a 2nd molar due to an infection that killed all three of those molars. Some implants hurt - not a lot, just ache a bit when I bite down on them. Of course my ultimate "final destination" will be a grave, but it would sure be nice to have SOME sort of long-term plan until I get there. A bridge is a bridge and they all obey the same design constraints, regardless of whether they carry trucks to teeth. So far, I have yet to meet a single dentist who has ANY mechanical engineering education - not one single hour. Steve
What upsets me is HOW to KNOW that you’ve chosen the right dentist. I had a terrible dentist and ALL reviews on the internet for him are 5 star reviews in several different places. I can’t eat normal food either, but I have no idea how to find a dentist I can trust to do the job right. According to statistics, my life could be shortened by 10 years.
yes, this very difficult. I like to listen to other folks recommendations. I don't trust the net reviews....I also need to "like" the dentist that I go to. Very first dentist we went to was proficient but wasn't detailed enough to suit us. Then we tried another and didn't like him either. then tried another one and have found "her" perfect fit for both my wife and I. Had 3 dentists here in the US, they over charged us... have had 3 in mexico, none of them over charged us... give Alberta Dental a try, I really like their professionalism.
The conclusion is: look at board certified, Follow word of mouth dentist and ask follow up question to that person on why they recommend that dentist. Ask what type of procedures have they had from the dentist. Look only at negative reviews online that will relate to the treatments you’ll need and/or will relate to you financially. Schedule consultation with different dentist and ask very specific questions. Look for transparency, able to perform a good job the first time, no up selling, no dismissive behavior.
I'm a 67 year old with multiple broken off teeth due to radiation damage. I'm in pain 24/7, and I can not eat any foods other than soft without screaming in pain. I have no dental insurance. I want more than anything thing to be able to eat, smile, and just be normal again. What hope do I have to make that dream come true?
I am about to receive my first denture. I hadn’t done much research before I went. All I thought was implants are out of my price range so I opted for and have been measured for regular metal hook and acrylic partials. I started looking at the videos on dental care denture work and promotions. Really, the denture industry seems to be more about shaming patients for choosing “traditional” dentures over the implants. And the push for them. And then when folks start indicating that they are a really costly and ongoing costly appliance!
My dentist used a 3D scan and had done my husbands a few weeks prior with no issues. Mine immediately caused pain. The dentist took x-rays and said it looked fine. I told him I was suffering. In week 2 he finally gave me pain meds and then just after I finished the antibiotics I got an infection and had to do a 2nd round of antibiotics. After week 4 he finally said it was failing and pulled it out. He said maybe 2% fail the first time and that I should try again. I told him that was too horrifying to subject myself to that again. He did give me all my money back. I'll be getting a bridge with a different dentist.
I have an implant and after 10 years of pain I found out that my blue tooth headphones were interacting with it and basically cooking my jaw. Severe pain all the time and dentist and oral surgeon had no idea that this could even happen.
It's so good to hear these two gentlemen feel genuine concern for the lady with the awful oral problems their heartfelt empathy is clear perhaps this lady could be assisted financially by taking her pain and suffering into account maybe a basic fee to restore her mouth as 1 said she's in her golden years and needs to be treated so respectively God bless her I pray some implantologist will help
They say the 98 % success rate is accurate "as long as you know what you're doing", but the entire point made in this video is that a lot of dentists don't know what they're doing. Everything has a higher success rate if you only include the best case scenarios and ignore everything else. --edit-- Although I pointed that out, overall thank you for such an informative video. Both my mom and I are in need of major dental work. My mom is going to have to have all her teeth removed and is low income so our options are limited and I am a breast cancer survivor who had radiation recently and I'm not sure how much work I'll need (though I think I'll lose a few teeth and I already have bone loss). It all just seems so overwhelming.
The dental board run by dentists will protect even the worst dentists. I lost my teeth due to constant complications from one dentists in TX. He destroyed my teeth and I’ve had to get all removed. Now healing and waiting to decide what to do next. But there is nothing I can do but file a complaint that goes unanswered nor can I get any money back or compensation. The dental field is a very very dark and shady field. I’m speaking of general dentists.
This was awesome! Thanks for your opinions. Would love to hear your guys suggestions on choosing a implant surgeon. Here in AZ they are literally everywhere. My dentist has made a couple of recommended surgeons. Am I really expected to choose a surgeon based on Google or HealthGrades reviews? It’s scary.
I'm in the same boat I need replace two teeth. Here in Wisconsin there everywhere too. Starting to lean toward living with out them. I don't mind spending the money even know the cost is completely ridiculous but what's the point if it doesn't work. Basically flip a coin that's your odds.
Mine failed after 4 months would not take….never again and mine was done by a oral surgeon and infection occurred I heard high failure rates… it is a brutal procedure DONT DO IT
Quick question, this might be a bit unorthodox for a dentist to answer unbiasedly but here it is; the woman that obviously had a case for “malpractice”(for lack of better words), could she not with your opinion be able to go back and sue the practice for what they did? I feel like with the money she spent, she should be reimbursed if it is an obvious error by the doctor.
I couldn'tagree more. I spent most of my career as a dentist working for a nationally-known DSO. In 2014, they decided that every dentist should be placing dental implants. While they did provide very high-quality training, their business model was production-driven and standard protocol was to place implants on the fly with very little case preparation. One dentist who worked for the organization was highly-praised for the revenue that she generated placing implants said in a meeting, "if you are going to place implants, you have to be prepared for 40% of them to fail." That was when I decided to retire from dentistry. My question is, would you want your family member to be treated this way?
I left Dentistry in 2002 all because of incompetent Dentist's not aligning implants correctly causing the implants to be torn out of the jaw due to the forces involved. On top of that the Dentist's would try and blame the Technicians rather than face their own mistakes and learn from them. Many Dentist's in the UK should not even be allowed near patients because their whole ethos is make big money and stuff the patients. Private Dentistry should never have been allowed here in the UK as greed has too much to answer for.
I’m so grateful I ran into your videos I’m diabetic and a smoker and the dentist I seen for the first time to get implants the dentist never mentioned any risks to me . I told him my A1C level is 8.3 and he had no concerns. He treated the situation as if I was just going to get a cleaning. He walked in looked at the X-ray and said 4 implants he’ll do gave me a price and that’s it. Spoke with me for like 4 minutes. 2 implants in the front and 2 in the back. Psh .
I enjoy watching your vidoes, I'm in the process of getting upper implant supported dentures I've gained lots of imformation from your videos on the procedure. THANKS!
My general dentist replaced my bad tooth with a dental implant on the upper back jaw. The first one was too small so he replaced it but could not find the original one. He just put the second one in anyway. I was having sinus pain and facial pain and went to see an ENT. Had a ct scan and found the implant way up in the sinus cavity sitting just below my eye socket. The Dr couldn't believe it. I had surgery and the implant was removed. I told my dentist about the surgery and he didn't seem too concerned about the work that he had done. In my opinion it was totally his fault. No more implants for me. I still go to this office but see another dentist.
I got a tooth extracted at a regular dentist and he told me he did dental implants and was ready to go a head and get started on the implant. and I laughed 😂 and went to an actual periodontist specialist that actually does implants regularly.
This has been interesting to see. I just had 2 implants in my lower jaw,+ bone grafts and work with an oral surgeon/periodontist and a dentist. I was terrified for years of finding the right team. I asked all kinds of people for recommendations then researched the names and picked them/committed. 2 implants 1 month later, they look really good on xray. The healing is below the gumline still (September will add abutments) and the bottom denture has been adjusted 5x so far but improving with each one. Today's realignment allowed me to eat with the denture and no adhesive for the bottom plate. Grateful for an experienced team and excellent oral surgeon. Too many fly by night guys in Florida offering implants from a dentist. The cost for cash was around 12k for all of it, denture too.
i hear routinely from one of the implant chains the total treatment plan are above 50k. This is the norm not an outlier. Why is this happening? Are you serious? Huge student loans, corporate dental, and greed are a perfect storm to push young dentists to do high dollar treatment. They lack the training and in alot if situations also lack proper equipment. I could place implants but do not want to invest in what is needed to do these procedures properly. Ethics in dentistry is getting destroyed. I tell my patients we have specialists for a reason!!! There are some general dentists that can rival specialists but most are not properly prepared to place implants.
I'm glad you mentioned allergy to the metal. I have a metal plate in my arm and would get swelling on and off where that plate was located. I always wondered about it. Over time it finally stopped doing it, but it was up to 15 yrs after that it finally stopped.
@@nancyk5203 im still getting zirconias. The latest CleanImplant awards for zirconias are Swiss Dental solutions's 1 piece SDS1.2, Champion BioWin!, and Bredent WhiteSKY - all rated clean. I think SDS is the most famous of the three, and thus more dentists would have the tools to handle it so I'm probably going SDS, if availabe in the US. If not, I'll have it done in back home Bulgaria, where it would be about $2000 per tooth - so much cheaper than US. I'm also getting the implants with Platelet Rich Fibrin
I was getting an implant supported bridge for my top 6 front teeth. One of my implants failed. After 8 months, my oral surgeon placed the healing caps (I think that's what they are called) and gave me the all clear to have my dentist take impressions to make my bridge. While my dentist was twisting in the posts for the impressions, I heard the loudest crack and jumped. My dentist and the tech didn't hear it so we continued on. Impressions were taken and when my dentist went to unscrew the impression post, my implant came out. It's been an emotional roller coaster because I was so close to the finish line. Now I'm trying to figure out next steps. Another bone graft was done and I was told it's just a waiting game.
in my experience general dentists are some pretty shady characters. I was getting a tooth pulled that was giving me trouble, years ago. he stood the best thing to do would just be to pull it; it'd be no problem, he said. Well, when he was trying to pull it, it shattered. So with tooth fragments still in my mouth, and blood pouring out of it, he sticks a huge hunk of gauze told me to bite down well escorting me to the front door saying sorry you're going to have to go see somebody else to help you with this! I said no recommendation where to go nothing just good luck? With that he shut the door and I realized I wasn't going to get any more help there and since I was bleeding and didn't know how bad it was I just went to the hospital. after it was all said and done I thought about bringing action against him but then I realized I literally had zero proof that I was ever there. It never showed up on my medical and I didn't have a receipt or anything like that. Scumbag.
And some of the problem is that these dentist don't keep records. So ten years later when your implant is failing and your new dentist calls to see what is in your mouth they're either retired out of business or just never bothered to write it down
I'm looking at having all on 4 done soon. I have my consultation with a very reputable prosthodontist/dentist in Nashville TN (Dr. Park) and I'm having SO many worries. Because I'm a researcher by nature...I've looked at both the good and the bad....and of course, I came across that Arizona story. I'm only JUST 40 (last month) and I've had problems my entire life due to "soft teeth" that only got worse after my pregnancy. I don't want to have problems with the implants also...(I also have a metal allergy...but not titanium) so I've had a ton of anxiety over all of this. Thank you for this video! It really helped ease my mind, and it has also given me some ideas on questions I'm going to ask and my consultation, before committing to a treatment plan. Thank you, thank you!
I'm highly allergic to metals - most of the dentists I have talked with say shouldn't be a problem - they use titanium etc - what is your experience with metal allergy - does that mean I should be wary of implants? Thanks for the video
I need implants, i can not take the pain,,, Dentist are PAINFUL HURTING, EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT DAM DRILL, I FREAK OUT, WHY DENTISTRY HAVE NOT IMPROVE HOW THEY STILL FIX TEETH.
Doctors should not charge money to any insurance or cash money until the job is done and if well done , there for the government should have an agency to regulate doctors that are charging money for every visit the patient make and on top of that these instead of cure they create terrible illness to innocent patients . Please doctors don’t charge money until the whole job is done and if the patient is satisfied with it, period 🤔🤔
I just had full upper and lower 3 on 6 done and not quite finished yet. A robot did the 3D designed and did the operation, bone grafts and sinus lift all at once. 6 months have passed and 2 sets of temporary teeth have been put in, the Dentist wants to make sure everything was perfect before they made the zirconia finals. My gums have gotten thinner than they expected. So far no problems except for taking a little longer but I would rather have it done right then quickly.
I personally spent about 50k of my own $$. Because had no dental insurance that cover implants/bone grafts. Had 8 implants placed in upper for plans on zirconia prothesis. They were never right from Day 1..and I had educated myself enough to know. I actually woke up from anesthesia in excrutiating pain in middle of them all being placed. They were all so crooked and some were sticking out from gums lot further than others. Some barely even made in gum..and this was after I had already underwent bone graft. surgeries. Long story short, I already had to have 4 removed and other 4 going to have be removed soon. Not by dentist who placed, because he referred me out after I began questioning him and confronting him about inferior service. I have sought legal council with 3 highly rated and reputable firms who handle medical malpractice. I was told by each one (without other's knowledge) that to win any kind of case that at least 2 dentist (from same state) would have to testify regarding quality of care. And was told, they had not had success with that. So, Im just screwed and out all that's $$.plus pain and ayffwe4
My husband got a brain infection likely from contaminated water lines. Just see what response you get if you try to find out when water lines were disinfected.
I don't care how professional and reliable a dentist is, I will never get screws in my gum. Screws belong in boards, walls, and structures in my opinion.
Gut Flora is linked with Oral Care. My dentist tells me all the time it all takes the Rollercoaster Ride. And remember the person that graduates with " C- " is still referred to as Doctor. ((Omaha, Nebraska)) 🇺🇸🦅😎⚓🍺✨
I think dentists pushed implants before even knowing the pros and cons. Now, people are suffering with failed implants, but too bad, so sad, your real teeth are now gone. I think this is terrible. Think twice before getting implants. You also could be allergic to nickel or other metals used.
Yeah those nylon retention bands are not cheap, something that wasn't told to me when I got mine, first year they were free but after that they want 50 a piece × 8 adds up .
I am over 70 and have had bariatric surgery and have been diagnosed with osteopenia, but my current dentist is telling me they feel I have enough bone to have implants, I am having a hard issue believing her!
Some people have unusual sensitivities. There are people who are systemically affected by electromagnetic fields. Having metal placed inside a person's body can exacerbate such sensitivities even if the metals are lower in conductivity such as titanium.
I got an implant a couple years ago and had a great result. My dentist sent me to a practice that does nothing but dental implants and prosthetic procedures. I am planning to have another one this year. SEE A SPECIALIST !!
I am really sorry for what that lady is dealing with. I am a firm believer in knowing your doctor's credentials. It does matter. Always do your homework.
Wonder what the connections is between these two dentists and the malpractice lawyers in their community. QUID PRO QUO ....IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. 😂😂😂😂
I see this trend in many industries. For example, new home construction... Semi-skilled workers doing things wrong and skilled workers who should know better, shortcutting, setting a foundation for expensive repairs down the road. Under a dental plan my family got rid of, the so-called dental practice we rejected was like a used car dealer operation. The dentists were rude and didn't seem to know what they are doing. I checked out their rating and it was a little above one star out of five.
Ok, so the 75 yr olds griping on the dental forums about their implants failing.....cigarette in 1 hand & a blood glucose monitor in the other.....take what they say with a grain of salt? 😁 I heard my dentist explaining to the tech what he was doing as he was extracting my teeth & placing implants, after years he's still fascinated & excited about doing it. I feel very confident in my dentist after seeing this video. We, as patients, have to do our part also. I'm only 2 wks into this journey. At the re-check yesterday he said it all looked great. I'll keep my finger crossed 👍
Why isn’t the ADA making the case to provide coverage for major dental procedures to the US Congress? Have you dental professionals and the medical specialists not explained to Congress the direct correlation between dental health and other health issues that are covered by Medicare? Surely someone has done enough research to prove the case that by not paying for good dental health to older Americans is probably costing Medicare more money by not covering dental care than they’re saying by denying quality dental insurance coverage. Or is the problem with the ADA being unwilling to accept what Medicare has offered to pay? Doesn’t your profession and Congress understand that supplemental insurance (or the ADA) will cover most of the costs that Medicare won’t pay? One session of chemotherapy costs $22,000. Medicare only pays about $200. But Tri-Care for Life pays for the rest of the costs.
Most people will have dentures. Including me they don’t require surgery for placement. No risk of infection and no added cost for broken implant pieces. They are covered by insurance and affordable. I can’t wait until next year at this time. I will have hopefully saved the $500. For the dentures I found online. Back to smiling and thriving.
I had oral surgery malpractice 6 years ago - was butchered having left upper and lower molars removed. Multiple injuries. 6 years of horrific pain. I would never get an implant. Nerve pain, torn jaw, and chronic infection and I’m an invalid. I was healthy. Then once you have malpractice,,, no one wants to help you. I’m in a living hell thanks to an incompetent oral surgeon.
I just had to have my implant taken out after 25 years. I'm now in such a mess. It's been 100% chaotic just to get something done right. I feel so F----ed. What I would give to have teeth fit right and be able to smell again
My Implant journey was great . The screws were surgically implanted In my mouth and a healing cap was placed . No screws were ever exposed . I’m 77 and In great shape medically.
Many people now have food allergies and sensitivities to different materials. The increasing sensitivities need to be addressed and recognized in this industry also. Ditto for joint replacements etc
Recall seeing Scandinavian study comparing implant results between dental specialists and general dentists and no significant difference in outcomes .Perhaps they both have adequate implant specific training vs the general dentists being very astute as well? I am just a lowly MD😪
My E day is 4/18 - implant retained dentures is what my plan is - based on the many hours of homework I have done, it seems some people think a "general dentist" can handle these type surgeries, prosthetic's etc. - thank God I didn't trust a primary care physician (PCP) to do my double bypass in 2011....
I had implants put on my upper gums, and had a denture made, an over denture. Several months went by when they started to become loose and eventually fell out. Thank god I can still wear the dentures with adhesive.
26:09 Did ya'll miss the inflammation on her upper area when she flipped her lip? Sure she cant enjoy eating or socializing in abundance but the pain associated isn't her having emotional problems. It's clear she is experiencing trauma to the upper deck leaving her with significant discomfort and pain.
I have four dental implants in my mouth. My local Oral Surgeon, along with my dentist certified in dental implants worked together and I'm totally happy without any problems. I had numerous follow-up appointments and x-rays to make sure everything was working for me. One year later I'm still overjoyed with my new implants.
I have worked in several dental offices as a dental hygienist for the last 30 years. I have seen lots of inadequate dental work. But dentists NEVER, EVER tell the patients the truth. They prefer to protect the dental community instead of protecting the patient.
I would like to ask these 2 dental surgeons how many times have they reported low quality dental work from their colleagues. I bet they have never done it. Even here in this video, they are biting their tongues before saying too much. One of these doctors said that he doesn't want to throw anyone under the bus. Dental boards are control by dentists. If the dentists do not throw anybody under the bus, who would?
My dentist argued with his nurse that dropped a tool and he wanted her to use it.. she said no!! He had no idea I was in medical too and that was a no no! So I know what you mean!!
Some time it could be a drama since you are laying down on the chair . You can’t see anything but only hear the words 😂
I've had more than a few dentists insist that I need unnecessary procedures . I always make sure to quietly ask the hygienist if everything is good and what do u need, before the dentist comes in.
@@36skittle Thank you for your comment. That is a helpful advice for our readers. I thing most people do not know, though, that hygienists are not allowed to diagnose. I had had, in the past, problems with dentists and managers, for giving my treatment opinion to patients. Some dentists have even order me not to talk to patients about their mouths at all. "Just do the cleaning" .
I have bad news for you. I have worked in dental offices for 30 years. There are more dishonest dentists than honest ones.
Let me give you an advice: Ask the hygienists where they take their family members for dental treatment.
Even after the completion of 6 additional years following dental school, training in a top tier university, performing hundreds of surgeries, becoming board certified (consisting of both written and oral exams), and practicing for nearly 20 years, I am STILL learning, still CONTINUE improving techniques, NEVER use non-proprietary components or materials, and I have never felt like a “master implantologist.” I see billboards and ads making claims of superiority when knowing firsthand the level of inexperience and training. Referrals related to failed, disaster cases that have left people totally toothless, infected, chronic pain, accelerates bone loss, not to mention the massive financial losses, have increased rapidly over the past few years. In many instances, few if any options remain because of the devastating and irreversible consequences. I, and my colleagues, have made formal complaints to the state licensing board and the dental board. Sadly and consistently, I’m told they will try and “look into it” but they are utterly overwhelmed with issues. I’ve been told the lion share of cases investigated deal with providers caught using their own drug supplies, mainly opioids. SO, I and others have NO problem reporting (and I don’t consider it “throwing someone under the bus” when they are taking advantage, preying upon, and in many cases, destroying lives) those who commit malpractice but like most government agencies, the complaints do NOTHING and as a result, NOTHING seems to change.
Thank you for saying: listening to the patient is important. I had 2 implants placed 6 years ago and immediately felt something was not right. I went back to the surgeon (and other specialists) multiple times and was told everything looked good. I believed them and I gave up. I also believe that those in the dental field protect each other. Now, 6 years later, I have a mess and expense I am currently going through. Two failed implants, extreme bone loss and multiple surgeries, 6 unit bridge. I am watching this crying because I didn't fight for myself.
It makes me want to cry. You cannot trust anyone anymore.
so sad...I'm sorry. You should demand that they make it right. I have an implant that I think is failing. I see the specialist in 2 weeks. I don't think the crown was placed right by my dentist and I'm not paying for a redo...I will tell her that. With my last visit, she was trying to say that my gum was inflamed...well, it wasn't inflamed right before she placed the crown and I've been taking care of my gums and teeth. I don't smoke or drink. SMH
Book a flight to Thailand
It’s not just due to lack of training. People need to see the news report in its entirety. It’s the metals used that some people have reactions to. They aren’t 100% titanium. Tests also showed small filaments of metals on the implants after manufacturing. There’s also risk of constant infections. The best dentist in the world with all the training and experience to fit them properly does not rule out all the other risks, which usually start with the product before it enters a persons body.
I have 7 years with misguided health problems. 5 years treated with drugs n I needed a cpap. 3 days later I was 100% better. gulbladder taken out. big mistake So many times I have lost years of my life cause they think we're nuts
With what you guys are saying I totally changed my mind about getting implants! To go into debt to get them and have problems with them all the time is just not worth it! Terrible odds!
I have mine. Full upper and lowers with no problems. Just do your research and be sure you choose a good clinic that cares and knows what they are doing like I did. But with that said surgery is never guaranteed to be 100% successful. The human body is very complex and things can go wrong. This is why I put off surgery on my lower spine because there is no guarantee it will work. I will only get the surgery done when I don't have a choice.
Depends upon what problems you eventually encounter w your teeth & eating.
A good, qualified oral surgeon will do it right!
Yes, I do agree and I was seriously considering implants but I don't like the odds. Might I add that age is a serious consideration because who in their 60s , 70s and beyond wants to spend time being miserable with implants when life expectancy is 80-85 years! Not to be morbid but that has to be a consideration.
Had one dental implant, a lower molar, done over 25 years ago now, but by a highly skilled orthodontist, and it's still holding up perfect to this very day, never one problem at all with it!
Which teeth did you have the dental implant on and at what age?
You must have maintained oral hygiene very well. Normally dental implants may last 10-20yr, but if maintained well can last longer. Just like driving a car you may need regular maintenance 😊
25 years ago we had more ethical dentists and doctors. Nowadays they're just scum
Orthodontist?
@user-du5vn6rp4u Dude dental implant last a life time, it's the root canal that only last a decade or two.
As a dental student who previously worked for oral surgeons, periodontists, and general dentists who placed implants... I think the issue is a lack of regulation. In dental school, there is almost zero training on implant placement and NO dental grad is ready to place implants right out of dental school without a surgical residency (oral surgery or periodontics). The fact that a new grad is able to place an implant the day after graduation without ever holding an implant before is absolutely insane. SPECIALISTS oftentimes are the ones doing a great job, while general dentists are here experimenting on patients. A doctor's first implant should not be placed in his office without oversight, but should be placed in school/residency. From my POV as a student learning dentistry, that is the biggest issue.
I have seen general dentists have a 20% failure rate because they don't know what they are doing, and I have seen proper surgeons who place 3,000 a year with less than a dozen failing who then study the hell out of those failures to understand WHY
That's something for state licensing boards to deal with.
Right. It's essentially the same as a newly minted MBBS straight out of Med school being allowed to perform neurosurgery.
Insane.
@@sl4983 Ah, yes. The board. Dentists regulating dentists. What could go wrong?
@@billparrish9200 University of Maryland has new equipment for robotic surgery AI has to learn from its mistakes this is a minority area and the air is very bad and a lot of people are sick
I've been to DDSes and I'm still not impressed with the dental industry. I doubt I'll go back to a dentist, ever.
why is dental care and health care so expensive in America?? everyone that works should be able to afford great dental care and healthcare
I agree but unfortunately we are not in charge.
Dude I'm struggling so hard right now for this exact reason. I'm 32 my teeth genetically suck ass I've put 20 grand into fixing my teeth in the last 10 years and now I'm about to get full implants up and bottom. I don't even want to tell you what this shit's going to cost and it's freaking me the fuck out. I'm so stressed out thinking about the cost of this. It shouldn't be like this. Even for me to go to the doctor once a month cost me almost $400 and I have insurance! My deductible is $4,000 though so I have to spend $4,000 cash on medical care throughout the year before my insurance covers dick and then I still have to cover a percentage of it. I pay $350 a month for this shit ass health insurance. I only have it so that I don't go completely bankrupt if I get cancer some crazy shit like that. It sucks dude. It's garbage totally broken system. I've been using voice to text so if it's grammatically fucked it is what it is 😂
I just went through almost 2 years, here in North Texas, of "dentists" that couldn't get 1 implant really right...over $10,000.000...there is no real oversight when it comes to dentists...Smiles Generation...what a joke...they can always find ways to justify their incompetence...I refuse to call them "doctors"
the problem greed and dishonesty, way over priced, not affordable and when there is problems/mistakes no one takes responsibility for it!!!
the dishonest dentist dont take responsibility... that's for sure
I've been a dental Lab Tech for over 45yrs. I've been doing implant retained dentures from the very beginning with introduction of staple implants and hader-bars. One of my dentist was interested in starting to implement implant retained dentures into his practice. He invited me to attend a seminar to learn the whole process. He was very well respected for the quality of his work and success and happiness of his patients. Drs should be required to attend classes to be certified in order to do implants. Oral surgeons are responsible for building the foundation to which the dentist and lab tech are to build the denture upon. If he fails no amount of effort will correct it to provide an optimal result for the patient. Knowledge and training is overlooked when money is involved.
Since you're a lab tech, I'd like to ask you a question, if you will. I had several implants 2 years ago. My dentist says the lab didn't make the crowns correctly so I needed another scan. Well, so far I've had 3 scans. Between scans it has taken 3-4 MONTHS for the lab to produce crowns which never seem to work. Is it at all possible that a lab can take so long to make crowns? It's been 2 years and no crowns? It's starting to sound very suspicious to me. Why would anyone continue to use a lab that takes so long to produce and then produce a substandard product? What are your thoughts?
I’ve had one implant at 68 years old, by an oral surgeon at the dental school in Louiville. It’s perfect. No trouble and was also check by many surgeons at the school before being released. It was a year of being checked periodically. Honestly I did not know that unqualified dentists were able to perform oral surgery. My periodontist does everything possible to save teeth but my front tooth was knocked out.
PS, I’m in excellent health, never smoked, no diabetes, or high blood pressure, no medication, I didn’t even have pain meds after surgery.
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I had a root canal on a lower back molar. The Guta percha material that fills the canal was protruding out the end of the root. Which I didn’t know for a year and a half. Two weeks after that molar was root canaled a second time I began having debilitating migraine 3 to 5 times a week and they were medication resistant. Meaning my medication wasn’t working on the migraines. I also had not had any migraine since I was a teenager and had braces. So I finally went and had it pulled and that’s when they saw the guta percha sticking out too far hitting a major nerve. The trigeminal nerve! So yes dental work can make you sick, very sick and you never know what it may be.
Wow
I am suffering from trigeminal nerve on one side of my face. And I have root canal treatment on upper tooth number 4.. the pain is quite strong, it started 6 years ago, the tooth was done years before. I probably need to pull it out and pray for less nerve pain. What if this helps..would be magical
I’m literally in the exact same position, I thought I was a rare case lol. I’m getting the tooth pulled in a few weeks and hope to someday get an implant if all goes well
@@ashyyyxd864 I am thinking about zirconia implants for the upper jaw. The nerve pain brings a lot of misery. Probably titanium are ok but I have a lot of inflammation around my ear on that side and I am allergic to niceI.. who knows what's the best ha ha
This is happening with my mom too
I got a 1 molar implant in the early 90s. Done by an oral surgeon. It was a gruesome procedure. I moved to another state a few years later, and my new dentist showed me it was loose, so I went to a prosthodontist and it was in at an angle, caused by the surgeon running the drill too hot, which made it slip. It got too loose, so I had it removed, which is a really awful surgery, as the bone grows around it. Frightening pain after. I got an expensive bridge, which outlasted my other teeth and now have dentures. I can't eat with them, but I get by. Everyone tries to sell me implants, esp general dentists. But never, ever again. Plus I can't afford them. That one implant cost me $10,000 in 1991 money, plus the previous root canal and crowns, an apecoectomy (?) surgery deep in the bone to try to cure the intractable pain, and finally extraction, then implant, then removal, 3 span bridge, dentures. I bet I spent $30,000 on that *one* tooth (80s/90s $). It's a crime that dental insurance is so bad. Dentures were my cheapest option, esp now being disabled, so I had to give up chewing with teeth, because of the root canal/crown or bridge expense, and 'mystery' pain. I have friends and family going through the same issues, esp if disabled and/or have difficult finances. Dental work for seniors is out of the reach of many, unless you retired with more than a simple pension, and didn't lose it during the various financial crises.
You are so right about dental insurance being so bad to the point it should be a crime. My dental insurance is $1,500 a year and it's split up and applied to every procedure so its like not having insurance, I still have to pay way over 50% of all the costs out of pocket.
I'm appalled at the complete lack of accountability across the whole field of dentistry. I'm sure there a great dentists out there but unfortunately I have run into 2 who shouldn't be allowed to practice even basic dentistry. Only due to slight leaks in my molars when I was very a very young child, I had to have small fillings in all my back teeth. Fast forward to 12 years ago, I went to have a small cavity filled in a front tooth. The dentist was keen to replace all my other fillings with composites. A bit of slight of hand by the administrative staff had them covered by my insurance and I spent over a week feeling so sick. Only after did I educate myself and learn that amalgam fillings should be removed in a well ventilated room, with a dental dam.... where I was in a windowless, unventilated room with no dam. After 1 year I ended up with 13 cavities and had to have 2 teeth pulled, a root canal and several fillings. Only then did I notice that any composite material was cured multiple times during the process, as the filling was built up. All the fillings the previous fillings were "packed" and only then we're they cured once.
When I moved I switched to a different dental clinic and had work done over the past 3 years. Amalgams had shrunk, loosened and resulted in cavities but I began to notice dark shadows at the gumline. After my last filling I asked if I could have an x-ray. I'd had a single implant this year and was generally concerned about further decay/ complications).
The result- all the teeth this dentist had worked on were decayed below the gumline and will have to be extracted. Leaving no back teeth at all!!! That I was able to spot an issue with no training. While this dentist was filling one of these rotten teeth, he completely missed this during the examinations. In fact I'd been in for work several times in the past 3 years, some recently yet not once did he pick up on any problems
So now he's telling me I'll need all replaced with implants as dentures won't be appropriate for a mouth condition I have had for 3 years called Lichen Planus. It will never happen. I've no ability to pay the huge cost of top and bottom implants to replace all these teeth.
I know I'm not alone, being only one among many who took great care of their teeth, and through lack of experience and bad judgment will be losing all my back teeth. It's soul destroying. Already find it a huge challenge to eat with severe Lichen Planus but add to that, no back teeth. Not to mention what this will do to my appearance and overall health, bone loss, lack of support for my front teeth. I once had a loving smile and feel totally robbed of that through no fault of my own. Dentistry is such a profit minded business I have no silly thought of some dentist taking pity on me enough to want to help me!
I went dentist with emergency infected tooth, he treated the wrong one. After I went another dentist he discover the infectioned tooth still there. The dumb dentist didn't know read X ray. Don't go to chain company that rent room, buy second hands equipment in Ebay, hire student to train you mouth.
The same exact thing to me. It makes me wonder if we had the same dentist.
Licen planus…did it come from trauma to the gums…may I suggest you have a very serious look at Dr. Berg on RUclips. He has a lot of info on Auto immune disorders. The body is amazing give it what it needs and it will heal itself. ❤
@@kikipurnell2542 I had a very similar experience. This dentist got good reviews. I personally saw him on TV talking about his business and how long he's been placing in dental implants. My worst mistake ever. He did a terrible job. I'm in the process of taking him to Court to my money back.
Sorry you've been thru so much. Don''t give up on needed implants. A friend of ours needed major work he couldn't afford and went to a dental school. These were front top teeth some molars. He paid like $400.00 for all the work they did. Hoping the best for you.
I'm about to be 70, and getting my 3rd individual implant. When I looked at the cost of a root canal and crown, VS implant and crown... the cost was about the same. Given my positive experience with the previous 2 implants, I opted for another. All work has been with an Oral Surgeon and I've been more than satisfied with the results. The only "complaint" I've got is the length of time from extraction to crown.. about 9 months.. but they are worth it. I've heard pricing horror stories, but shop around.
I had two implants (front upper) about 20 or so years ago. Both failed, and came out with bone attached. While they were in, I felt majorly ill, like my body was rejecting them. I know that titanium is supposed to be impervious to that, but it happened. Ironically, when they came out, I instantly felt better. Unfortunately, it's messed up my dental health in many ways ever since.
Did you have any other treatment since then? How long was the implant in there?did it keep bothering after the implant? Where did you get it done from?
@@DefendHumanity Done in the suburbs of Chicago. Doc sent me to a great prosthodontist who put in a six tooth long Maryland bridge. That was good until quite recently. It's actually heading back in the right direction now. Also I didn't mean to imply that the failure was due to titanium rejection. They probably just weren't put in right. Mine were also in the front and those are trickier.
@@Kevin6059so now you have dentures? Or still the titanium?
@@mirrormirror444the guy that did my implants felt pretty bad about it and recommended another prosthodontist who's very well-known and really excellent. He recently retired but this is decades ago and I got a Maryland bridge that spanned six teeth. That was the fix. Today I still have half of that Maryland bridge and a floating tooth and have lost a couple more teeth since then for unrelated reasons. Actually have a decent setup as long as the rest of my teeth can hold out for a little longer. Most people won't have access to someone who can do a Maryland bridge that spans six teeth however, although that was 25 years ago now. I think for most people now in plants are pretty safe but just to go with someone who has a really good track record and has been doing it a long time. The key is having something really solid to base that implant in so I'd be leery of any implants in the front.
As someone who went to Clearchoice to have the all in 4 procedure done when I was 27 there’s no chance in hell I’d ever goto a normal dentist to do anything to my mouth or implants.
It’s not as simple and drilling and placing a screw. If you want implants ESPECIALLY full bridge uppers and lowers fixed or removable take your ass to a legit place that specializes in that. Full 3D skull scans, in depth moulding being done, etc.
Like these guys said, if they are not talking about the end point get up and walk out. It’s called the backwards planning process, start with an endpoint and work backwards in the steps to where you are now and come up with a plan of action. They should be able to do every single step in the process and discuss in detail all the steps. 4 implants evenly spaced on top and bottom; clearchoice does angled rear implants as opposed to vertical and vertical for the 2 in the middle for both upper and lower but I think either method is fine.
For Christ’s sake do your due diligence in who you get to do it because if it’s done wrong that’s tens of thousands and a shit load of pain and misery. When I got mine done it’s sucked ass for about a week but it’s been solid for 13 years now. Might have to go get new upper and lower dentures but frankly it’s like going in for an oil change.
If you want permanent dentures and not removable make damn sure they leave a large enough space to clean the implants and done rest the prosthetic on the gums. I had to get mine changed because I started having problems but once they altered it it was fine no issues
All on x has inherent flaws as well and the pendulum is starting to swing towards doing more single implant and implant bridges. For all on x they have to amputate a good portion of your maxillary or mandibular bone to get enough clearance for the FP-3 prosthesis. Inherently this bothers me as we were always taught to preserve bone.
@@budenifyyep, they do indeed have to do that. They basically grind your lower jaw bone down to make it an even surface. I didn’t say it was perfect though, I just said I’ve been good to go. In 20 more years? Probably not. But I would expect to have numerous issues any way I went tbh.
Thank you for this video very help full. We all need to be held accountable , not to speak out against bad work only makes all dentists look bad and greedy. You all end up being painted with the same brush, the good lumped in with the bad. So defend your honor and reputation and do not feel bad for hurting the feelings of the ones who did not do the work and only wanted the rewards based on your work and reputation.
agreed. thanks for the input!
My dentist who happens to specialized in implants and had lots of training and had done 3 implants in my maxillary jaw did me the favor by referring me to a periodontist because mandibular implants are more complicated because of the mental nerve so after doing a CBCT scan, the periodontist told me that he doesn't want to put 21 & 20 together because tooth 20 would be to close to the nerve so we did an implant on 21 & 19 and was made an implant supported bridge with a pontic. The only thing that annoying is having to clean under the pontic.
Is that like flossing
The dental implant business is very profitable. Dentists get angry with their patients when the patient complains about issues related to the procedures. Dentists like to blame the patient for implants failing. That happened to me and that is why I haven't continued treatment because of all the money I spent already. That dentist didn't mind because he's still taking money from people and taking advantage of people, who are just to smile and eat solid foods for a change. Thanks for sharing this video.
You are so right! Had to deal with A holes who blame the patient for their FK up work the ruin you for years costing you thousands.
BTW. It was not implant. But as I child I broke two front teeth. He made caps and messed up. They looked terrible and caused ALL other teeth to be misaligned. And constantly infected. Then gum and bone issues. An abcess that went into my sinus cavities required emergency surgery.
Oh like it was my fault. Hell no.
That was over 50 years ago. Various dentists. They could never fix it. Never refered me to a specialist. This is a medical issues NOT cosmetic!!!
Dentist more implantologist never think of the patient but of the profit they are making that is their priority.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge to freely. You are helping so many of us. I'm planning on switching providers for my implant to someone who listens instead of allowing her staff to provide all the information. I've gotten more from these videos than from the surgeon.
You guys are amazing. I’m in North Texas and it is good to know we have educated dental surgeons like yall.
"inexperience on the operators part" is a very polite way of saying "just because you have a license to do so does not mean you should"
Is lack of training malpractice?
My advice. Go to a reputable board certified oral surgeon for implants. Period.
In my opinion a dentist should not be doing these.
Wow you guys are awesome.. The absolute raw truth right here.. I was a treatment coordinator for many years for a dentist.. Keep on stating your truths.. Seriously some need thrown under the bus to protect these patients!!!!!
Everyone should go to a well known implant specialist. It may cost you more, but it is way less costly in the long run
Implant training here in the UK is rigorous and long. I can't understand what's going on in the states with this. Any British dentist doing work this bad would quickly find himself in court. And not on civil charges either.
Good to know. I've just been to Banning Dental in London and am so worried about getting implants.
I was unlucky and had my teeth messed up in UK. The dentist was still in practice despite a pending court case. He took our money and disappeared to South Africa before his case. His work standard was abysmal and one poor guy was left mid treatment. I went to Turkey for remedial work by a great skilled man who described my mouth as a catastrophe. He cannot be found now so cannot be sued! He was a Dr Shah, a crook!
A badly done root canal gave me MS……thousands have had the same experience…..the guy who was the head of the US root canal association is now the biggest anti root canal guy. Dr Peter Francis, aUK specialist who has treated more than 10000 MS patients said….45 percent of those cases were due to DENTAL PROBLEMS
As a CDA I witnessed this all the time, so many people with failed implants. There was never a big plan, it was aweful. I'm retired now and I find your honesty extremely refreshing.
Once the money is gone, who will repair the damage done to me? Not the office who did it! Paid cash!
I have a jar full of teeth and implant material that has come out of my mouth. I took many trips to his office for repairs since month one. It's been several years and I am disfigured, in pain and disgusted!!! Bone health? Forget it. Any confidence in how to find a responsible dentist is out the window.The name of the person who did this to me is Harold Wayne Brueggen.
So sad to hear that. I visited a lot of doctors. Most of them want to install an expensive implant, and only one of them told me I have no bone to do it and I need to try to save my teeth. It were my cheapest and wisest decision.
@@nataliepodgainova6582 I truly thank you for your input. Any help and knowledge you can provide will be appreciated.
@@kebcarter4752 google reviews help me to find my dentist, gnatologist and paradontist. I did KT with occlusion and without it and sent it by email to all who get most stars review on google and ask their advise. Hope you stay well.
@@nataliepodgainova6582 Hello and thank you for for your input. The thing is that I did do due diligence. He has put himself as a top ten of Vogue. Vogue! He also claimed to SUPER DENTIST of Houston. I followed the lies and they ate just LIES.
@@nataliepodgainova6582 All the reviews have been favorability.
It is nice to plan ahead, but...
My teeth were hollowed out for amalgam fillings ~50 years ago, and it has been downhill since then. I have been implanting teeth as they fail, and now have 6 implants. In one case, a 2nd molar implant was placed too close to my 1st molar by a periodontist, so tissue never properly regrew between them. Months later, the 1st molar was rotted out, so I had to also implant the 1st molar right next to the 2nd molar implant. I have another 1st next to a 2nd molar due to an infection that killed all three of those molars. Some implants hurt - not a lot, just ache a bit when I bite down on them. Of course my ultimate "final destination" will be a grave, but it would sure be nice to have SOME sort of long-term plan until I get there.
A bridge is a bridge and they all obey the same design constraints, regardless of whether they carry trucks to teeth. So far, I have yet to meet a single dentist who has ANY mechanical engineering education - not one single hour.
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What upsets me is HOW to KNOW that you’ve chosen the right dentist. I had a terrible dentist and ALL reviews on the internet for him are 5 star reviews in several different places. I can’t eat normal food either, but I have no idea how to find a dentist I can trust to do the job right. According to statistics, my life could be shortened by 10 years.
yes, this very difficult. I like to listen to other folks recommendations. I don't trust the net reviews....I also need to "like" the dentist that I go to. Very first dentist we went to was proficient but wasn't detailed enough to suit us. Then we tried another and didn't like him either. then tried another one and have found "her" perfect fit for both my wife and I. Had 3 dentists here in the US, they over charged us... have had 3 in mexico, none of them over charged us... give Alberta Dental a try, I really like their professionalism.
on line "reviews" are "cleaned up"...to show only the positive.
The conclusion is: look at board certified, Follow word of mouth dentist and ask follow up question to that person on why they recommend that dentist. Ask what type of procedures have they had from the dentist. Look only at negative reviews online that will relate to the treatments you’ll need and/or will relate to you financially. Schedule consultation with different dentist and ask very specific questions. Look for transparency, able to perform a good job the first time, no up selling, no dismissive behavior.
I wonder if she’s allergic to the dental material. I’m allergic to the acrylic and the nickel in the implants
@@shadrach6299 maybe the nickel, but acrylic is part of the denture not the implant
I'm a 67 year old with multiple broken off teeth due to radiation damage. I'm in pain 24/7, and I can not eat any foods other than soft without screaming in pain.
I have no dental insurance. I want more than anything thing to be able to eat, smile, and just be normal again.
What hope do I have to make that dream come true?
I am about to receive my first denture. I hadn’t done much research before I went. All I thought was implants are out of my price range so I opted for and have been measured for regular metal hook and acrylic partials. I started looking at the videos on dental care denture work and promotions. Really, the denture industry seems to be more about shaming patients for choosing “traditional” dentures over the implants. And the push for them. And then when folks start indicating that they are a really costly and ongoing costly appliance!
My dentist used a 3D scan and had done my husbands a few weeks prior with no issues. Mine immediately caused pain. The dentist took x-rays and said it looked fine. I told him I was suffering. In week 2 he finally gave me pain meds and then just after I finished the antibiotics I got an infection and had to do a 2nd round of antibiotics. After week 4 he finally said it was failing and pulled it out. He said maybe 2% fail the first time and that I should try again. I told him that was too horrifying to subject myself to that again. He did give me all my money back. I'll be getting a bridge with a different dentist.
I have an implant and after 10 years of pain I found out that my blue tooth headphones were interacting with it and basically cooking my jaw. Severe pain all the time and dentist and oral surgeon had no idea that this could even happen.
Darn that can happen??!!
Is there a name for this interference? Do you still have it?
It's so good to hear these two gentlemen feel genuine concern for the lady with the awful oral problems their heartfelt empathy is clear perhaps this lady could be assisted financially by taking her pain and suffering into account maybe a basic fee to restore her mouth as 1 said she's in her golden years and needs to be treated so respectively God bless her I pray some implantologist will help
Not a chance. It just cost me 17’000$ and there’s no mercy
Ha! You're out $20,000. Nobody cares
They say the 98 % success rate is accurate "as long as you know what you're doing", but the entire point made in this video is that a lot of dentists don't know what they're doing. Everything has a higher success rate if you only include the best case scenarios and ignore everything else.
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Although I pointed that out, overall thank you for such an informative video. Both my mom and I are in need of major dental work. My mom is going to have to have all her teeth removed and is low income so our options are limited and I am a breast cancer survivor who had radiation recently and I'm not sure how much work I'll need (though I think I'll lose a few teeth and I already have bone loss). It all just seems so overwhelming.
How do u know who is best?
The dental board run by dentists will protect even the worst dentists. I lost my teeth due to constant complications from one dentists in TX. He destroyed my teeth and I’ve had to get all removed. Now healing and waiting to decide what to do next. But there is nothing I can do but file a complaint that goes unanswered nor can I get any money back or compensation. The dental field is a very very dark and shady field. I’m speaking of general dentists.
This was awesome! Thanks for your opinions. Would love to hear your guys suggestions on choosing a implant surgeon. Here in AZ they are literally everywhere. My dentist has made a couple of recommended surgeons. Am I really expected to choose a surgeon based on Google or HealthGrades reviews? It’s scary.
I'm in the same boat I need replace two teeth. Here in Wisconsin there everywhere too. Starting to lean toward living with out them. I don't mind spending the money even know the cost is completely ridiculous but what's the point if it doesn't work. Basically flip a coin that's your odds.
Mine failed after 4 months would not take….never again and mine was done by a oral surgeon and infection occurred
I heard high failure rates… it is a brutal procedure DONT DO IT
was fiber or titanium?
What do you mean it's a brutal procedure? You had one implant fail??
Quick question, this might be a bit unorthodox for a dentist to answer unbiasedly but here it is; the woman that obviously had a case for “malpractice”(for lack of better words), could she not with your opinion be able to go back and sue the practice for what they did? I feel like with the money she spent, she should be reimbursed if it is an obvious error by the doctor.
I couldn'tagree more. I spent most of my career as a dentist working for a nationally-known DSO. In 2014, they decided that every dentist should be placing dental implants. While they did provide very high-quality training, their business model was production-driven and standard protocol was to place implants on the fly with very little case preparation. One dentist who worked for the organization was highly-praised for the revenue that she generated placing implants said in a meeting, "if you are going to place implants, you have to be prepared for 40% of them to fail." That was when I decided to retire from dentistry. My question is, would you want your family member to be treated this way?
I left Dentistry in 2002 all because of incompetent Dentist's not aligning implants correctly causing the implants to be torn out of the jaw due to the forces involved. On top of that the Dentist's would try and blame the Technicians rather than face their own mistakes and learn from them. Many Dentist's in the UK should not even be allowed near patients because their whole ethos is make big money and stuff the patients. Private Dentistry should never have been allowed here in the UK as greed has too much to answer for.
40% that is absolutely frightening. My is 76 and has 5 individual implants. She didn't want partial. Makes me nervous wreck.
I’m so grateful I ran into your videos
I’m diabetic and a smoker and the dentist I seen for the first time to get implants the dentist never mentioned any risks to me . I told him my A1C level is 8.3 and he had no concerns.
He treated the situation as if I was just going to get a cleaning.
He walked in looked at the X-ray and said 4 implants he’ll do gave me a price and that’s it.
Spoke with me for like 4 minutes.
2 implants in the front and 2 in the back.
Psh .
I enjoy watching your vidoes, I'm in the process of getting upper implant supported dentures I've gained lots of imformation from your videos on the procedure. THANKS!
I'm so glad we were able to help!
If implants fail you don't get your Big money back! Not to mention all the pain. And still wind up wearing dentures.
My general dentist replaced my bad tooth with a dental implant on the upper back jaw. The first one was too small so he replaced it but could not find the original one. He just put the second one in anyway. I was having sinus pain and facial pain and went to see an ENT. Had a ct scan and found the implant way up in the sinus cavity sitting just below my eye socket. The Dr couldn't believe it. I had surgery and the implant was removed. I told my dentist about the surgery and he didn't seem too concerned about the work that he had done. In my opinion it was totally his fault. No more implants for me. I still go to this office but see another dentist.
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Find a new dentist!
You should have sued, that sounds like gross negligence.
I got a tooth extracted at a regular dentist and he told me he did dental implants and was ready to go a head and get started on the implant. and I laughed 😂 and went to an actual periodontist specialist that actually does implants regularly.
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I love this, you have such care and concern..Just wish it was not so expensive!!
This has been interesting to see. I just had 2 implants in my lower jaw,+ bone grafts and work with an oral surgeon/periodontist and a dentist. I was terrified for years of finding the right team.
I asked all kinds of people for recommendations then researched the names and picked them/committed.
2 implants 1 month later, they look really good on xray. The healing is below the gumline still (September will add abutments) and the bottom denture has been adjusted 5x so far but improving with each one. Today's realignment allowed me to eat with the denture and no adhesive for the bottom plate.
Grateful for an experienced team and excellent oral surgeon.
Too many fly by night guys in Florida offering implants from a dentist. The cost for cash was around 12k for all of it, denture too.
i hear routinely from one of the implant chains the total treatment plan are above 50k. This is the norm not an outlier. Why is this happening? Are you serious? Huge student loans, corporate dental, and greed are a perfect storm to push young dentists to do high dollar treatment. They lack the training and in alot if situations also lack proper equipment. I could place implants but do not want to invest in what is needed to do these procedures properly. Ethics in dentistry is getting destroyed. I tell my patients we have specialists for a reason!!! There are some general dentists that can rival specialists but most are not properly prepared to place implants.
Are you saying that you actually "LISTEN to your PATIENTS". I'm trying to get my mind around that.
wait did we say that. we misspoke. lol. kidding
I'm glad you mentioned allergy to the metal. I have a metal plate in my arm and would get swelling on and off where that plate was located. I always wondered about it. Over time it finally stopped doing it, but it was up to 15 yrs after that it finally stopped.
I had issues from a plate and screws in a wrist, and had it removed 7 months later. Much better now!
Maybe your immune system got used to the metal
the implants laden with toxic metal got me, I was about to get zirconias and even those seem to come out covered in nickel and cadmium
Oh no. 😢 Thought zirconium could be my hope. What do you think you'll do ?
@@nancyk5203 im still getting zirconias. The latest CleanImplant awards for zirconias are Swiss Dental solutions's 1 piece SDS1.2, Champion BioWin!, and Bredent WhiteSKY - all rated clean. I think SDS is the most famous of the three, and thus more dentists would have the tools to handle it so I'm probably going SDS, if availabe in the US. If not, I'll have it done in back home Bulgaria, where it would be about $2000 per tooth - so much cheaper than US. I'm also getting the implants with Platelet Rich Fibrin
I was getting an implant supported bridge for my top 6 front teeth. One of my implants failed. After 8 months, my oral surgeon placed the healing caps (I think that's what they are called) and gave me the all clear to have my dentist take impressions to make my bridge. While my dentist was twisting in the posts for the impressions, I heard the loudest crack and jumped. My dentist and the tech didn't hear it so we continued on. Impressions were taken and when my dentist went to unscrew the impression post, my implant came out. It's been an emotional roller coaster because I was so close to the finish line. Now I'm trying to figure out next steps. Another bone graft was done and I was told it's just a waiting game.
in my experience general dentists are some pretty shady characters. I was getting a tooth pulled that was giving me trouble, years ago. he stood the best thing to do would just be to pull it; it'd be no problem, he said. Well, when he was trying to pull it, it shattered. So with tooth fragments still in my mouth, and blood pouring out of it, he sticks a huge hunk of gauze told me to bite down well escorting me to the front door saying sorry you're going to have to go see somebody else to help you with this! I said no recommendation where to go nothing just good luck? With that he shut the door and I realized I wasn't going to get any more help there and since I was bleeding and didn't know how bad it was I just went to the hospital. after it was all said and done I thought about bringing action against him but then I realized I literally had zero proof that I was ever there. It never showed up on my medical and I didn't have a receipt or anything like that. Scumbag.
Sounds like we need much more oversight and training for these procedures.... Maybe a reporting requirement for bad dentistry
Or, strict training & certifications required for dentists doing implants! Need regulations to monitor this practice!
And some of the problem is that these dentist don't keep records. So ten years later when your implant is failing and your new dentist calls to see what is in your mouth they're either retired out of business or just never bothered to write it down
Ask for a copy there and then, after all you are paying for it…
I'm looking at having all on 4 done soon. I have my consultation with a very reputable prosthodontist/dentist in Nashville TN (Dr. Park) and I'm having SO many worries. Because I'm a researcher by nature...I've looked at both the good and the bad....and of course, I came across that Arizona story. I'm only JUST 40 (last month) and I've had problems my entire life due to "soft teeth" that only got worse after my pregnancy. I don't want to have problems with the implants also...(I also have a metal allergy...but not titanium) so I've had a ton of anxiety over all of this. Thank you for this video! It really helped ease my mind, and it has also given me some ideas on questions I'm going to ask and my consultation, before committing to a treatment plan. Thank you, thank you!
glad to help!
Go to Turkey and have it done :)
@@theheir7668 hell no
It s so sad to hear you have such a problem
Have all your teeth extracted? Can you plzz update all details?
I'm highly allergic to metals - most of the dentists I have talked with say shouldn't be a problem - they use titanium etc - what is your experience with metal allergy - does that mean I should be wary of implants? Thanks for the video
Zirconia implants. They are more expensive though
Wonderful and heartfelt video……you guys rock !
I need implants, i can not take the pain,,, Dentist are PAINFUL HURTING, EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT DAM DRILL, I FREAK OUT, WHY DENTISTRY HAVE NOT IMPROVE HOW THEY STILL FIX TEETH.
Doctors should not charge money to any insurance or cash money until the job is done and if well done , there for the government should have an agency to regulate doctors that are charging money for every visit the patient make and on top of that these instead of cure they create terrible illness to innocent patients . Please doctors don’t charge money until the whole job is done and if the patient is satisfied with it, period 🤔🤔
It's incredible that no training is required for such an invasive procedure. The implants are at an angle which do not give good support.
I just had full upper and lower 3 on 6 done and not quite finished yet. A robot did the 3D designed and did the operation, bone grafts and sinus lift all at once. 6 months have passed and 2 sets of temporary teeth have been put in, the Dentist wants to make sure everything was perfect before they made the zirconia finals. My gums have gotten thinner than they expected. So far no problems except for taking a little longer but I would rather have it done right then quickly.
I personally spent about 50k of my own $$. Because had no dental insurance that cover implants/bone grafts. Had 8 implants placed in upper for plans on zirconia prothesis. They were never right from Day 1..and I had educated myself enough to know. I actually woke up from anesthesia in excrutiating pain in middle of them all being placed. They were all so crooked and some were sticking out from gums lot further than others. Some barely even made in gum..and this was after I had already underwent bone graft. surgeries. Long story short, I already had to have 4 removed and other 4 going to have be removed soon. Not by dentist who placed, because he referred me out after I began questioning him and confronting him about inferior service. I have sought legal council with 3 highly rated and reputable firms who handle medical malpractice. I was told by each one (without other's knowledge) that to win any kind of case that at least 2 dentist (from same state) would have to testify regarding quality of care. And was told, they had not had success with that. So, Im just screwed and out all that's $$.plus pain and ayffwe4
My husband got a brain infection likely from contaminated water lines. Just see what response you get if you try to find out when water lines were disinfected.
I don't care how professional and reliable a dentist is, I will never get screws in my gum. Screws belong in boards, walls, and structures in my opinion.
Gut Flora is linked with Oral Care.
My dentist tells me all the time it all takes the Rollercoaster Ride.
And remember the person that graduates with " C- " is still referred to as Doctor.
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I think dentists pushed implants before even knowing the pros and cons. Now, people are suffering with failed implants, but too bad, so sad, your real teeth are now gone.
I think this is terrible.
Think twice before getting implants.
You also could be allergic to nickel or other metals used.
Yeah those nylon retention bands are not cheap, something that wasn't told to me when I got mine, first year they were free but after that they want 50 a piece × 8 adds up .
I am over 70 and have had bariatric surgery and have been diagnosed with osteopenia, but my current dentist is telling me they feel I have enough bone to have implants, I am having a hard issue believing her!
Some people have unusual sensitivities. There are people who are systemically affected by electromagnetic fields. Having metal placed inside a person's body can exacerbate such sensitivities even if the metals are lower in conductivity such as titanium.
I got an implant a couple years ago and had a great result. My dentist sent me to a practice that does nothing but dental implants and prosthetic procedures. I am planning to have another one this year. SEE A SPECIALIST !!
I am really sorry for what that lady is dealing with. I am a firm believer in knowing your doctor's credentials. It does matter. Always do your homework.
Wonder what the connections is between these two dentists and the malpractice lawyers in their community.
QUID PRO QUO ....IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
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I see this trend in many industries. For example, new home construction... Semi-skilled workers doing things wrong and skilled workers who should know better, shortcutting, setting a foundation for expensive repairs down the road. Under a dental plan my family got rid of, the so-called dental practice we rejected was like a used car dealer operation. The dentists were rude and didn't seem to know what they are doing. I checked out their rating and it was a little above one star out of five.
In every job.. what if that was your grandmother? Great mindset!
I’m crying watching this. I was sick for years from an implant and suffered nerve damage. 😢
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Can you tell me what happened to you? I'm going through the same.
After watching this, I'm going to send my dentist some flowers. She did a great job. We live in Spain.
Ok, so the 75 yr olds griping on the dental forums about their implants failing.....cigarette in 1 hand & a blood glucose monitor in the other.....take what they say with a grain of salt? 😁 I heard my dentist explaining to the tech what he was doing as he was extracting my teeth & placing implants, after years he's still fascinated & excited about doing it. I feel very confident in my dentist after seeing this video. We, as patients, have to do our part also. I'm only 2 wks into this journey. At the re-check yesterday he said it all looked great. I'll keep my finger crossed 👍
So you think you'll be ok when yours fail when you're 75 years old? Bet you aren't!
@Guy Gadbois If mine last 20 yrs, I'm good.
Mine lasted 7 years. Good luck.
@@TheAzmountaineer very few people live till 75
All the best!
Why isn’t the ADA making the case to provide coverage for major dental procedures to the US Congress? Have you dental professionals and the medical specialists not explained to Congress the direct correlation between dental health and other health issues that are covered by Medicare? Surely someone has done enough research to prove the case that by not paying for good dental health to older Americans is probably costing Medicare more money by not covering dental care than they’re saying by denying quality dental insurance coverage. Or is the problem with the ADA being unwilling to accept what Medicare has offered to pay? Doesn’t your profession and Congress understand that supplemental insurance (or the ADA) will cover most of the costs that Medicare won’t pay? One session of chemotherapy costs $22,000. Medicare only pays about $200. But Tri-Care for Life pays for the rest of the costs.
Implants are better for sure, so, they should' be affordable
And done by a professional
That would be wonderful, as opposed to a minimum of $5,000 each.
Most people will have dentures. Including me they don’t require surgery for placement. No risk of infection and no added cost for broken implant pieces. They are covered by insurance and affordable. I can’t wait until next year at this time. I will have hopefully saved the $500. For the dentures I found online. Back to smiling and thriving.
Whats the real cost of implants $90k+ and how do you mortgage a mouth?
Loved this case review/ brainstorming. Thank you.
I had oral surgery malpractice 6 years ago - was butchered having left upper and lower molars removed. Multiple injuries. 6 years of horrific pain.
I would never get an implant. Nerve pain, torn jaw, and chronic infection and I’m an invalid. I was healthy.
Then once you have malpractice,,, no one wants to help you.
I’m in a living hell thanks to an incompetent oral surgeon.
So don't get one? Why did it fail?
Multiple options….what one can afford is more the options one has. I am scared and discouraged and to be truthful I do not trust Florida dentists.
I just had to have my implant taken out after 25 years. I'm now in such a mess. It's been 100% chaotic just to get something done right. I feel so F----ed. What I would give to have teeth fit right and be able to smell again
My Implant journey was great . The screws were surgically implanted In my mouth and a healing cap was placed . No screws were ever exposed . I’m 77 and In great shape medically.
They should be ashamed and they smile cost is crazy
Many people now have food allergies and sensitivities to different materials. The increasing sensitivities need to be addressed and recognized in this industry also. Ditto for joint replacements etc
It's places like Dental and Denture Services hiring unqualified individuals to make prosthesis, they hire and "train," people off the street...
Recall seeing Scandinavian study comparing implant results between dental specialists and general dentists and no significant difference in outcomes .Perhaps they both have adequate implant specific training vs the general dentists being very astute as well? I am just a lowly MD😪
Got mine at the VA and they’re solid.
My E day is 4/18 - implant retained dentures is what my plan is - based on the many hours of homework I have done, it seems some people think a "general dentist" can handle these type surgeries, prosthetic's etc. - thank God I didn't trust a primary care physician (PCP) to do my double bypass in 2011....
Good point. People are totally misinformed!
I had implants put on my upper gums, and had a denture made, an over denture. Several months went by when they started to become loose and eventually fell out. Thank god I can still wear the dentures with adhesive.
Many Dentists today are "The New Used Car Salesmen"
26:09 Did ya'll miss the inflammation on her upper area when she flipped her lip? Sure she cant enjoy eating or socializing in abundance but the pain associated isn't her having emotional problems. It's clear she is experiencing trauma to the upper deck leaving her with significant discomfort and pain.
How can we tell if our dentist has sufficient experience?
I have four dental implants in my mouth. My local Oral Surgeon, along with my dentist certified in dental implants worked together and I'm totally happy without any problems. I had numerous follow-up appointments and x-rays to make sure everything was working for me. One year later I'm still overjoyed with my new implants.
Where did you get your implants from?
@@DefendHumanity Are you in Hanford?
Can i have an implant if ive had a failed root canal removed and no bone graft or cleaning the socket after
yes. whether more bone graft is needed though is a case by case basis.