LOLWUT? Legacy Kobolds - a Cheerios Combo Deck - MTG Legacy Deck Tech and Gameplay

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  • Legacy Kobolds is a bizarre Cheerios style combo deck in Legacy, that looks to cast a load of really bad creatures then kill your opponent with the magic of Bushwhacking! It's like 8 Whack, but with Kobolds and Phyrexian Walkers!
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Комментарии • 169

  • @ScottKane
    @ScottKane 5 лет назад +160

    "VALIDATE ME" * reaches for bell icon ... * "No ... make him ache for it."

  • @DoomedScholar
    @DoomedScholar 5 лет назад +43

    "Please let this resolve"
    [let's it resolve]
    Vince: WOW why didn't they counter it?

  • @swebartender4697
    @swebartender4697 5 лет назад +107

    If my calculation is correct, it would be about 1161 damage if you would have kicked or surge out the goblin some number here and there. but about 1161

  • @PlanetaZozole
    @PlanetaZozole 5 лет назад +115

    You could have still cast Bushwhacker at 14:06, Beck is a may ability

  • @copoli2541
    @copoli2541 5 лет назад +2

    This is why I play magic! I’m so glad you continue to show an extreme passion for jank that too many players lack; brewing up something crazy and unique to see if it gets there is so much more fun than bashing tier one lists for win percentages.

  • @GeorgeAlone2277
    @GeorgeAlone2277 5 лет назад +91

    25 minutes in why didn’t you Exile spirit guide to glimpse and draw at least as extra 3 cards

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  5 лет назад +48

      I noticed this in editing. :(

    • @gandalf9138
      @gandalf9138 5 лет назад +26

      I was sitting here silently screaming about that too

    • @1matzeplayer1
      @1matzeplayer1 5 лет назад +10

      I was in pain watching that, he was so enthusiastic 😢 could have gone off like crazy

    • @GeorgeAlone2277
      @GeorgeAlone2277 5 лет назад

      PleasantKenobi luckily (maybe) the 3 draws wouldn’t have gone off anyway

    • @Finngrinder
      @Finngrinder 5 лет назад +1

      It was really painful to see :(

  • @connorharrison7160
    @connorharrison7160 5 лет назад +26

    24:53 Wouldn't it have been better to cast the Glimpse with Elvish Spirit Guide, since it couldn't be countered that turn, and draw 2 of of your free dude's?

    • @Trevdawg48
      @Trevdawg48 4 года назад +1

      Came here to say that. I was yelling. My wife said "what is wrong with you?"

    • @Dracomandriuthus
      @Dracomandriuthus Год назад

      The punt was pain

  • @Izhuark
    @Izhuark 5 лет назад +8

    So at 13:19 4 red and 2 green in the pool (there is still a spirit guide and a lotus petal in the hand) there is :
    529 (10x28+3x29+6x27+1x0) power on the board
    cast bush wacker (storm count is 30) 2 red 2 green in the pool
    551 (10x29+3x30+6x28+1x2+1x1) power on the board
    cast glimps and crop rotation for storm (31) caste haze of rage (32), all of our creatures get 33 power
    for 693 more damage + 20 from pest for a grand total of 1264 damage (1201 if delver blocks)
    I think we can optimize this even more by going a few card back (before the first time haze of rage was cast if we really want to do the most damage)
    Edit : Forgot to add the bushwhacker in the final calculation silly me ^^"

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  5 лет назад +4

      MVP

    • @sanderhendrickx4435
      @sanderhendrickx4435 4 года назад

      Far from optimal/correct. 22 creatures, all getting bonus from 2 bushwackers and 1 signal pest. You can also sac Tinder Wall for RR, so another Haze of Rage was possible. You also want to play your Hazes at the very end, in this case it would have been for about storm 30, 31 and 32. Thus adding +96 power to all 22 creatures, for a grand total of well over 2100 damage.

  • @Juicin225
    @Juicin225 5 лет назад +87

    They should have brought back kobolds for throne of eldirlane

    • @AkodoNoEyes
      @AkodoNoEyes 5 лет назад +2

      J F i was thinking that the other day. Just one is all I would have needed haha.

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 5 лет назад +3

      Ah yes, that famous old fairytale, Snow White and the Seven Kobolds? Or were you thinking of Sleeping Kobold?? Beauty and the Kobold??? They wouldn't fit in Eldraine at all!

    • @Juicin225
      @Juicin225 5 лет назад +4

      @@andrewsparkes8829 Its for the meme my guy, not everything has to be cookie cutter. Variety is the spice of life

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 5 лет назад +1

      @@Juicin225 For someone who extols the virtues of humour, you certainly have a stick in your ass about lighthearted comments when they are proving your own wrong...

    • @Juicin225
      @Juicin225 5 лет назад

      @@andrewsparkes8829 Stick up your ass I believe is the phrase and its not a statement that is made to be proven wrong, it is a satirical statement meant to entertain

  • @Nobody-zl3kk
    @Nobody-zl3kk 5 лет назад +8

    the thumbnail should instead be
    "To KOBOLDly go where no legacy player has gone before"

  • @emmettchan5545
    @emmettchan5545 5 лет назад +46

    25:00 why not cast the glimpse to go off this turn? I don't get it?

    • @Monstrous_Delta
      @Monstrous_Delta 5 лет назад

      Same, why not? It looked like the play.

    • @lucantonelli7069
      @lucantonelli7069 5 лет назад

      I was feeling the same way

    • @1matzeplayer1
      @1matzeplayer1 5 лет назад +2

      That was the worst thing I've seen in a long time 😂😂😂 he literally had only three cards in hand. This is basically unmissable 😂 still a very entertaining video

    • @ManyFPSVideos
      @ManyFPSVideos 5 лет назад

      Yeah veil protects spells for the turn

    • @samouflage99
      @samouflage99 5 лет назад +1

      Daze insurance. The Elvish was there to pay for the one mana cost.
      Edit: OH, right, he just casted Veil of Summer right before it resolved.

  • @9-b_b-9
    @9-b_b-9 5 лет назад +2

    Debates which character Gerrard killed in the art of scapegoat and doesn't bother to read the flavour text right in front of him. Classic.

  • @forgottenartificer
    @forgottenartificer 5 лет назад +6

    PK I love you videos please never stop making content!!!

  • @twidgetron328
    @twidgetron328 5 лет назад +7

    Totally ignoring that Elvish Spirit Guide in game 3 caused me great pain.

  • @Emporer860
    @Emporer860 5 лет назад +1

    My favorite deck ever. Only deck I have full signed and/or foiled.
    But I'm playing a list with cradle, behemoth and mistcutter hydra.

  • @Sheriff_K
    @Sheriff_K 5 лет назад +1

    This reminds me of my Druid Tribal Commander deck.. It uses Glimpse effects and Seton (who makes 1-drop druids pay for themselves so you can cast another.)

  • @AkodoNoEyes
    @AkodoNoEyes 5 лет назад

    It’s decks like this that make me love you. Hahah
    Scape goat is Gerrard killing a fake copy of Volrath. It’s one of the best never used cards from my childhood. Love seeing it in a deck. I’d love two in the deck and Concordant Crossroads would be a sexy addition.

  • @diegojimeneztamame1646
    @diegojimeneztamame1646 5 лет назад

    This was a great piece of Magic. Thank you PK!

  • @alangray8307
    @alangray8307 5 лет назад +4

    Will you consider playing the teferi knowledge pool combo deck in modern for this series? I took it to 9th place at SCG Richmond that was in like April or May. If you want my list let me know and I’d be happy to send it to you.

  • @jasonsoucek7495
    @jasonsoucek7495 4 года назад

    My kobold deck uses Cloudstone Curio and Genesis Chamber. With Door of Destinies, choosing Kobold equals very large Kobolds and very large army of myrs. Not sure if it's legal in any format except casual. But turn 2 large army is fun. Turn 1 Sol Ring and Genesis Chamber. Turn 2 Cloudstone Curio, kobold, kobold, kobold, etc... (infinate engine for almost anything. life, damage, creatures, proliferate, storm, draw, mana. Of course you would need the appropriate cards to use any of these options. ) Thanks for the videos.

  • @MrCytree
    @MrCytree 5 лет назад

    Assuming all you change is drawing one less card earlier in the game, thereby allowing you to cast the bushwhacker. You cast the bushwhacker just before your final haze and then adding the +1/+1 to all from the pest you get:
    3 creatures at 63=189
    10 creatures at 62=620
    6 creatures at 61=366
    3 creatures at 34=102
    total = 1277 (1214 with a block)

  • @dustincullihall9963
    @dustincullihall9963 5 лет назад +9

    okay so not the best at math so i could be wrong but if done optimally game one you should have had 177,092 damage? the number was getting stupid large so not 100 % sure it is right. but pretty confident.
    *EDIT* I stuffed it up and cant math sooooo it looks closer to 1947

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  5 лет назад +3

      That seems far too high! :o

    • @dustincullihall9963
      @dustincullihall9963 5 лет назад +3

      @@PleasantKenobi it was realized i stuffed up the math hard there a couple missed brackets and the whole thing was off to the races actual answer is 1947 not confident at all in my maths any more

  • @strictlyworse_mk7108
    @strictlyworse_mk7108 5 лет назад +17

    Kobolds are more Fruit Loops or Apple Jacks rather than Cheerios.

    • @seandeignan6615
      @seandeignan6615 5 лет назад +4

      Apple Jacks is the Legacy deck with Orcish Lumberjack though, and Fruit Loops I believe is the combo deck with that old white Enchantment that loops creatures. These names are taken by other, existant Legacy decks.

    • @slyguy183
      @slyguy183 5 лет назад

      @@seandeignan6615 What about Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Frosted Flakes?

    • @seandeignan6615
      @seandeignan6615 5 лет назад +1

      @@slyguy183 I believe Frosted Flakes was a name some people were trying to get off the ground for the Crashing Footfalls Dreadhorde Arcanist Legacy deck because someone placed with a snow-dependent list. I don't believe it ended up sticking but it still might be confusing to attempt to revive the name for a different deck. Cinnamon Toast Crunch I don't THINK is taken, but I could be wrong. In any case, I don't see how any of these are more appropriate names than 'Cheerios'. The name not only fits the basic premise of the deck well, it is so established there's even a Modern deck named after this deck.

    • @strictlyworse_mk7108
      @strictlyworse_mk7108 5 лет назад

      Sean Deignan I had no idea

  • @edwardfeldman3533
    @edwardfeldman3533 5 лет назад +1

    PK you have finally found my favourite deck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @LeftyRoadster
    @LeftyRoadster 5 лет назад +1

    8:05 Jesus Christ PK I’m listening to this in the public library you can’t do this!

  • @jellosapiens7261
    @jellosapiens7261 5 лет назад

    If you continue this wacky combo series, I would love to see Oops, All Spells.

  • @Grumpollion
    @Grumpollion 5 лет назад

    Great series idea!

  • @mrrandomassduck
    @mrrandomassduck 4 года назад

    @16:53
    I once Beat a 4 colour Loam deck with BUG Reanimator by not playing lands and just reanimating a Griselbrand off of petals. Lands are for chumps.

  • @el_maoo
    @el_maoo 4 года назад

    this is a lot of fun to watch

  • @SpellingBeeWiner
    @SpellingBeeWiner 5 лет назад +6

    Why didn't you cast your glimpse with spirit guide at 25 min? Too all in for your blood?

    • @TheNintendouler
      @TheNintendouler 4 года назад

      he would have won if he had, there were 3 0costers on top, he could have easily drawn petals for the kill

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet 5 лет назад +2

    At 25 min, should have cast that Glimpse of the Spirit Guide, probably would have won that turn...

  • @jv-hk8wj
    @jv-hk8wj 5 лет назад +1

    doing quick math if you hit the bushwacker instead of the tinderwall with haste you would have hit for 1069 (nice) but then i remember signal pest exists so 1069+18 is 1087 (less nice)

  • @SHINTA1035
    @SHINTA1035 5 лет назад

    in game three at around the 25 minute mark you could have exiled the elf spirit guide to cast glipse before you cast those other 0 drops to draw 2 cards per as opposed to 1 card per

  • @nickroberts9603
    @nickroberts9603 5 лет назад

    Any chance we could see a vintage or legacy deck brewed around Shadowborn Apostle and Thrumming Stone? Perhaps a mono black storm deck?

  • @thestralspirit
    @thestralspirit 5 лет назад

    My favorite combo deck is a modern Naya splash mono green devotion deck that I created. It's not perfect but it's pretty fun

  • @tulius123
    @tulius123 5 лет назад

    Vince, my doctor said i need a 3 hour stream of this deck

  • @MrBoJangles22
    @MrBoJangles22 4 года назад

    Game one was probably curiosity to see what happened lol I’ve totally let some jenk decks combo off just to see the payoff

  • @malcom91
    @malcom91 5 лет назад

    That "deeper" scream was LOL

  • @DiabloTommaso
    @DiabloTommaso 5 лет назад

    Tenecious d reference nice

  • @clementthouvenel6369
    @clementthouvenel6369 5 лет назад

    25:04 exile spirit guide+glimpse of nature into robots = win and not wif

  • @epicfail9271
    @epicfail9271 5 лет назад

    Well I didn't know what a bell icon was... but since you want me to validate your existence, hm. Oooh a bell. [Ding]

  • @jarvis109
    @jarvis109 5 лет назад +3

    Why not play impact tremors

  • @CaffeinatedAfro
    @CaffeinatedAfro 5 лет назад

    Love this new series

  • @Adremulis
    @Adremulis 5 лет назад

    Pre-referencing is the ultimate RUclips flex.

  • @CaptainNoodleman
    @CaptainNoodleman 5 лет назад

    City of Brass should be Mana Confluence on MTGO just to get around that trigger being such a pain.

  • @tomjames7269
    @tomjames7269 5 лет назад

    Any reason why you don't have a beast masters asscension? I've found it can help for damage if you end up fizzling on the glimpse and can't find a bushwacker.

  • @rowanbarrett9498
    @rowanbarrett9498 3 года назад +1

    Mainboard 2 copies of obstinate familiar so that you can stop yourself from drawing out your deck

  • @wraith.ferron
    @wraith.ferron 5 лет назад +1

    He calls himself a bear, which makes me wonder if he knows what that means...

  • @angelagrace8499
    @angelagrace8499 5 лет назад

    The character in scapegoat is Gix

  • @judgementgaming3270
    @judgementgaming3270 5 лет назад +5

    Why wouldn't you play mana confluence instead of City of Brass?

    • @adambutt5137
      @adambutt5137 5 лет назад +3

      Judgement Gaming ah the age old question.

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  5 лет назад +9

      Because of nostalgia. And I'm an idiot.

  • @thelunaist2014
    @thelunaist2014 5 лет назад

    This just looks like a great kitchen table deck baring the mana base you'll be fine it will be slightly slower

  • @spyderman312
    @spyderman312 5 лет назад

    Manamorphose seems good in this deck.

  • @weldrodson
    @weldrodson 5 лет назад

    25:00 why not cast the glimpse off of spirit guide and try to combo off?

  • @jjdiddy50
    @jjdiddy50 5 лет назад

    Please do a Lol Wut episode where you play the Ral Storm Conduit, Repeated Reverberation, and Skewer the Critics 'combo' in standard. So good but so janky it would be perfect.

  • @Steele00
    @Steele00 5 лет назад

    Could also run burning tree to help mana fix.

  • @Mrs.Skaloskavic
    @Mrs.Skaloskavic 5 лет назад

    Look up the song loser by Beck, it’s a weird bit of fun.

  • @tomjackal5708
    @tomjackal5708 5 лет назад

    24:50 !punt
    spirit guide glimpse, go off with beck + glimpse??

  • @Fox_Moulder
    @Fox_Moulder 5 лет назад

    At 29:40 couldn’t you have cast glimpse when super go off

  • @johnbuscher
    @johnbuscher 2 года назад

    It’s a crime that we’ve only gotten like 2 new Kobolds. Look, I don’t want Goblins 2.0, but I want something funny that isn’t incredibly broken in Standard. A kobold Memnite would be neat, and doesn’t add to Metalcraft/Affinity, and also means that Kobolds have a 1/1 threat to start from.

  • @tsfaceless
    @tsfaceless 5 лет назад +1

    roughly 1300 dmg if no blockers 21 creatures attacking ( roughly 60 power ) + 1 from bushwacker + 1 from signil pest) so 21times 62 = 1302 ( some were a little less then 62 dmg... but im not doing that mush math)

    • @dustincullihall9963
      @dustincullihall9963 5 лет назад

      Youre missing casting the storm spell again

    • @tsfaceless
      @tsfaceless 5 лет назад

      @@dustincullihall9963 you are correct :)

  • @noneofyourbusiness3288
    @noneofyourbusiness3288 5 лет назад

    29:30 looking at hand-size: out grinding delver a a bunch of dumb 0 drops x)

  • @cydonyn
    @cydonyn 4 года назад

    They banned gitaxian probe in pauper too, which is only really a pain, becuase my mono green infect pauper deck had them, and the whole deck was signed by Rudy from Alpha Investments (It already wasn't the best deck in pauper), it's still pretty much the same deck, and it didn't really get worse or better without it. I think I just slotted in Polllenbrite Druid, which with the proliferate, might actually have made it a little better IDK *shrug*

  • @fatpad00
    @fatpad00 5 лет назад

    Did you consider massive raid for a win con?

  • @kramar7283
    @kramar7283 5 лет назад

    probably better known... prooooobably better known :D I'm still laughing

  • @jameswhitcomb4773
    @jameswhitcomb4773 5 лет назад +2

    Hopes his opponents are just like him and forgets to attack lol

  • @BrndLBoi
    @BrndLBoi 5 лет назад

    THIS IS MY DECK. I MADE IT.

  • @nicklittle8399
    @nicklittle8399 5 лет назад

    25:00 Spirit guide to Glimpse?

  • @addisonyoungblood4501
    @addisonyoungblood4501 4 года назад

    25:08 why didn’t you cast the thing that draws you cards when you cast a creature, you would of drawn 4 more cards. You could of exiled the thing from your hand for the mana.

  • @phinnos
    @phinnos 5 лет назад +2

    I really want to see you play BlisterMantle. Personal favourite of mine.

    • @RoxyGotMoxy.
      @RoxyGotMoxy. 5 лет назад

      BlisterMantle? Tell me more!

    • @phinnos
      @phinnos 5 лет назад

      @@RoxyGotMoxy. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blister-mantle-4/?cb=1568319061 is my current list post Looting ban.

  • @nivikyesac
    @nivikyesac 5 лет назад

    Gameplay starts at 8:09

  • @edwardfeldman3533
    @edwardfeldman3533 5 лет назад +1

    Keep watch/Shared discovery?

  • @clovislay
    @clovislay 4 года назад +1

    Corporate needs you to find the difference between these pictures
    Against the odds./// LolWhat
    It the same picture

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  4 года назад +1

      LOLWUT is focussed on fast linesr combo. Play minimal Magic.

    • @clovislay
      @clovislay 4 года назад

      Thanks keep up the jank work

  • @cheesie49
    @cheesie49 5 лет назад

    please Vince I beg of you, play Seths curse deck in legacy (swapping deaths hold for ethereal absolution) he didn't do that deck justice, missing the combo I would be so happy you wouldn't believe

  • @Penniwhistle
    @Penniwhistle 5 лет назад

    I did some maths for you Vince. Assuming you cast the Bushwhacker and another Haze of Rage by saccing the Tinder Wall, you'd have swung for 1,985 damage. Also, teach me how to sacrifice the wall on Tinder in real life too please, you sexy man. I'm lonely.

  • @williamsimkulet7832
    @williamsimkulet7832 4 года назад

    Does this need 1x Thud and 1x Crossroads?

  • @baumtree7967
    @baumtree7967 2 года назад

    LOLWUT indeed

  • @lillyw7064
    @lillyw7064 5 лет назад

    Ik this is kinda bad to talk about the video before watching the video (I'm watching the deck tech atm) but I feel like there should be 2 maybe 3 scape goat instead of 1

  • @samouflage99
    @samouflage99 5 лет назад

    Oh, there's the Force! Oh well, as long as they don't Wasteland my--fuck

  • @christophercronkhite5694
    @christophercronkhite5694 5 лет назад

    You could call it KoKo Cherrios 😄

  • @jostme12
    @jostme12 5 лет назад

    I ran the mathes quickly and came up with 1,269. someone can double check that but I think it pretty close. Also 69.

  • @GeorgeMaj15
    @GeorgeMaj15 5 лет назад

    Hi. I'm a fan.

  • @stevenburton7725
    @stevenburton7725 5 лет назад

    Did you know that kobolds are red? I’m sad that mtgo took the reminder text off of those beautiful cards.

  • @mradabaugh9406
    @mradabaugh9406 4 года назад

    15:24 you would have done 1,229 damage if you had casted the bushwhacked instead.

  • @maximus7474
    @maximus7474 5 лет назад

    you talking about beck the anime?

  • @RyuPlaneswalker
    @RyuPlaneswalker 5 лет назад

    "Insane Combos" Okay boys, time to figure out how to make my Infinite Gonti Combo playable in Legacy.

    • @danielwhite1890
      @danielwhite1890 4 года назад

      Ryu Planeswalker I made a dumb theoretical goblin generator that was specifically made to make the largest amount of mana possible in the game without going infinite, you would be here for a while just trying to type that many zeros

  • @andrewkrieser9274
    @andrewkrieser9274 5 лет назад

    this deck could use enduring renewal

  • @impendio
    @impendio 5 лет назад

    BUT WHY DIDNT YOU GLIMPSE WITH THE SPIRIT GUIDE??????

  • @thecrazycapn
    @thecrazycapn 5 лет назад

    "You...f-f-ucker! You...absolute..."

  • @yugiohguy4543
    @yugiohguy4543 4 года назад

    This shit slaps

  • @Bobbyo2014
    @Bobbyo2014 Год назад

    Ok so another lol wut comment but instead of coffee and crazy combos it is insomnia and tequila and combos. Yes I used and twice referr to item number 2

  • @Ry_Ku
    @Ry_Ku 5 лет назад

    pls, pls more of this deck, make this your new pet deck pls

  • @suckmeoffitis
    @suckmeoffitis 5 лет назад

    love you pk

  • @herrenschnitzel
    @herrenschnitzel 5 лет назад

    Beck is famous for "Loser" :)

  • @necrocreature9117
    @necrocreature9117 5 лет назад

    Leyline of Anticipation so you can go off on their turn? ez

  • @merlintym1928
    @merlintym1928 3 года назад +1

    Note to self: 0 mana 1/1s beat delver

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 5 лет назад

    Cry havoc and release the Memnite!

  • @eriklahti4202
    @eriklahti4202 5 лет назад

    But nice video

  • @goldcobraarima9819
    @goldcobraarima9819 5 лет назад

    Hahahaha nice Deck

  • @rayofthought2470
    @rayofthought2470 5 лет назад

    LOLWUT VALIDATION?

  • @REON-pw5ze
    @REON-pw5ze 5 лет назад

    DIS NUTS