Hey Brian! Thanks for the compliments, I appreciate your channel and loved to see you playing my dear tribe. Just two cents about the deck: I used this list in the Legacy Showcase Challenge, where I expected a dominant amount of fair Murktide decks all day, that is the reason for some narrow choices like Syphon, Maze, and no Force of Will, not sure if I would recommend this configuration for more open metas or leagues. 58:46 - I don't think that hands like this are keepable not knowing if the opponent plays Wasteland or not. 1:03:56 - I think this is a reasonable keep since you already have Cavern, Crystalline, and three 1 drops to deploy if you miss the land drop for some turns, also considering that opponent's deck probably doesn't run Wastelands.
@@sagemodzel Thanks! I might record something someday, that would be fun. Kinda wish Legacy was better though, to be honest. The format is not really in my preference right now
@@adamastar27 I love non rotating formats whatever they may be. Vintage, specifically Vintage Blue Combo, will always be my first love, however; I take a ton of enjoyment out of playing creature based aggro strategies in other formats. I literally checked your RUclips profile to see if you had any vods up lol
I assume they are having a bet behind the curtains who does better with slivers in legacy XD Next sliver storm with the first sliver from the epic storm would be nice
I'm 2 weeks ahead on my videos, Phil is recording on a tighter time frame. I played against him on Slivers with a deck that won't release for another week. I said in that video "I recorded Slivers last week" but his came out before mine. It's a crazy time warp.
I haven't sent him that Lands list so unlikely :) It's built to smush creatures because it wants to cast Life and Limb and Cropping for Ancient Tomb to drop a Plague Engineer is definitely on the menu.
Back in high school my friend played like a 150 card Sliver deck that had a 1 of Sliver Queen, 1 Heartstone 1 Ashnod Alter lol... I remember he finally made infinite slivers with it and my other friend told him to pick a number. So he said 1 trillion. My friend then played congregate lol...then a wrath of god
I'm not saying it's wrong to play Slivers in legacy without Force of Wills, but one of my favorite interactions with the deck has to be bouncing a blue Sliver via Hibernation's ability to pitch cast a Force of Will. Between Hibernation, Crystalline, and Galerider Sliver, the deck does have access to a significant amount of blue cards.
Comment of the day! Seeing slivers is a nice surprise! What a MTG classic!! I'd be interested in seeing a tournament report from the pilot that top 8 with this deck. Does anyone know of one?
@@LucksackGames I like both as well (if the other is ThrabenU) but I think Brian and SaphronOlive really make the videos fun to watch compared to some of the other people.
the word actually exist in austrian dialects. Roughly meaning 'a cluttered mess' or 'commotion'. Seems weird that they would go into niche dialects like that, but then again it does kinda fit.
I wonder if there is an argument for running some kind of recruiter with some sort of recursion on it. Maybe like some sort of death and taxes style 80 card yorion pile that controls an opponent and then just grabs all sorts of slivers. Probably not, but engagement or something.
I think I'd play 2 or 3 Aether Vials in this deck (with more lands in the other slots), because they're good but not critical to have. Meanwhile you really don't want to draw multiples. I know Magic players use the mental shortcut of "if you want to draw a card early, run 4. If you want to draw a card in the midgame, run 1-3." But I have a mathematics degree and it's not like any individual Vial is magically more likely to appear on top of your deck in the early game if you run 4 as opposed to 2-3 Vials. So "run 0 or 4 Vials" doesn't have statistical merit.
The new intro music is ok, but I prefer the old intro music. Both are too loud compared to the rest of the video Imo, its jarring when it autoplays. Other than that appreciate the great content and i hope you have a great day Brian :)
Totally dig this, but it's a shame to get it sent to you and to Phil in such close succession. Wish deck donators would spread them out a bit for more variety.
Yo legacy crowd, can you help me out? So im playing commander exclusivly in a local group. Since watching that channel i absolutely love the legacy format for many reasons. However it looks absolutely unaccessable for me. Every deck costs thousands of euros. Playing that in paper magic is absolutely no options, since unfortunately i can not shit money :( Also i found out that even the "digital cards" on magic online cost money ?! Can anyone give me a hint how much the kind of the deck BoshNRoll plays cost in magic online? Like the bant decks or the kitten one... It feels like the paywall is so huge, that i cant get into that format.
Yeah accessibility is a nightmare for these formats, the reserved list is a terrible thing. My decklists in the video description are on MTGGoldfish, which is also a pricing tool. The cost of the deck in paper and online should be on the top right of the decklist browser window. In paper, most places have embraced the use of proxy cards for Legacy because of how expensive it is, that’s a way to push the local scene into trying the format. Online I use Cardhoarder, which is a monthly subscription that lets you borrow from their vendor collection and try tons of different decks. Having that access is the only way this channel works, playing different decks every day. I recommend starting there.
@@BoshNRoll thanks for your answer. Maybe in our commander group we play a few rounds of legacy with proxy decks. I was looking for a chance to just play legacy as a "pick up game" every now and then. I like that compared to commander it seems like more "high paced" and nuanced decision making. And more details that matter a lot, since the decks are more reliable for you but also more predictable for the opponents. But checking the pricing... even with the loan accounts, that would be hilarious. I´ve checked some of the decks i liked from your channel, but thats an easy 1500 tix to have like 2-3 decks (depending how they overlap). Thats, if i understood the system correctly 37,5 tix a week (2,5%) wich translates to about 35€ a week, so 140€ a month. Unfortunately totally unreasonable if you dont go all in on that. And even then 140€ for virtual cards is quite the banger xD Guess im gonna have to stay on commander and enjoy legacy on your channel. Its really great entertainment. Next time i win the lottery i might start legacy :D
I am quite honestly sick of how consistent and good Izzet Delver is. It's a dead horse from me at this point, but the deck is STILL too good. It's been the Boogeyman of the format for how many years now? I'm to the point where they need to ban Iteration, Daze, Murktide, and DRC. Get back to the OG Delver because the format is such shit right now.
@@jonasjensen8895 I don't care. It's been an unhealthy card for as long as it's been around. Daze should have gone the same banning that Ragavan did. It's ANOTHER free spell that doesn't set them back as far as it should. It's another problem in Legacy, but in Delver more specifically.
You ban engine cards and not the payoffs, right? With that in mind, I'd ban fetchlands. That cripples Brainstorm and Murktide Regent, plus other delve cards. Plus fetchlands take a long time in paper, are boring to execute in paper, make decks too resilient to nonbasic hate, and help cheaters.
Hey Brian! Thanks for the compliments, I appreciate your channel and loved to see you playing my dear tribe. Just two cents about the deck: I used this list in the Legacy Showcase Challenge, where I expected a dominant amount of fair Murktide decks all day, that is the reason for some narrow choices like Syphon, Maze, and no Force of Will, not sure if I would recommend this configuration for more open metas or leagues.
58:46 - I don't think that hands like this are keepable not knowing if the opponent plays Wasteland or not.
1:03:56 - I think this is a reasonable keep since you already have Cavern, Crystalline, and three 1 drops to deploy if you miss the land drop for some turns, also considering that opponent's deck probably doesn't run Wastelands.
Thanks for your dedication to this archetype!
Would you consider recording your play experience with the deck? It's awesome how well you perform with jt
@@sagemodzel Thanks! I might record something someday, that would be fun. Kinda wish Legacy was better though, to be honest. The format is not really in my preference right now
@@adamastar27 I love non rotating formats whatever they may be. Vintage, specifically Vintage Blue Combo, will always be my first love, however; I take a ton of enjoyment out of playing creature based aggro strategies in other formats. I literally checked your RUclips profile to see if you had any vods up lol
First ThrabenU and second BoshnRoll? The stars seem to have aligned
I assume they are having a bet behind the curtains who does better with slivers in legacy XD
Next sliver storm with the first sliver from the epic storm would be nice
I'm 2 weeks ahead on my videos, Phil is recording on a tighter time frame. I played against him on Slivers with a deck that won't release for another week. I said in that video "I recorded Slivers last week" but his came out before mine. It's a crazy time warp.
@@BoshNRoll Let's do the time warp again!
I know which one i prefer to watch 😆
Possibly the same donor
i wonder if there's a match where phil completely wrecks you with plague engineer into wasteland lock
I haven't sent him that Lands list so unlikely :) It's built to smush creatures because it wants to cast Life and Limb and Cropping for Ancient Tomb to drop a Plague Engineer is definitely on the menu.
I hope not
Back in high school my friend played like a 150 card Sliver deck that had a 1 of Sliver Queen, 1 Heartstone 1 Ashnod Alter lol... I remember he finally made infinite slivers with it and my other friend told him to pick a number. So he said 1 trillion. My friend then played congregate lol...then a wrath of god
Gottem!
I had a deck like that in high school haha, not 150 cards tho
@@timw9745 150 might be exaggerated lol... probably 80. He was speccing into Yorion back during Urza block lol
Hail, hail, the sliver gang is here!
Respect for running this deck : ) and yeah... Storm and Doomsday are the hardest matches, mad props to Daniel also
Take a shot every time wasteland is drawn instead of any other land
It was nice knowing you
There's an unearth sliver that has been pretty big lately. It gives slivers unearth and has unearth itself and it's brutal to face against
I'm not saying it's wrong to play Slivers in legacy without Force of Wills, but one of my favorite interactions with the deck has to be bouncing a blue Sliver via Hibernation's ability to pitch cast a Force of Will. Between Hibernation, Crystalline, and Galerider Sliver, the deck does have access to a significant amount of blue cards.
Greetings again from the Sliver Discord! This video pleases the Hive!
11 cards in with only 2 lands should happen around 32% of the time, which isn't "most" of the time but isn't exactly a small number either.
Comment of the day! Seeing slivers is a nice surprise! What a MTG classic!! I'd be interested in seeing a tournament report from the pilot that top 8 with this deck. Does anyone know of one?
Years ago I played the version with daze and FOW a lot, also nice!
I saw someone else play this yesterday but more fun to watch Brian than the other guy.
Facts
Idk I like both lol
@@LucksackGames I like both as well (if the other is ThrabenU) but I think Brian and SaphronOlive really make the videos fun to watch compared to some of the other people.
Man...I really miss the old intro music. Cool decklist and games regardless.😌
I miss the old intro song (the one before this one )
40:35 Is there a world where you side in Maze to keep whatever equipped/protected by mom creature out of combat forever?
seeing the volc round two made me audibly laugh
In germany slivers are named Remasuri
And no i dont know why wotc did this XD
In Brazil they are called "Fractius", from fraction, a "sliver" of something. Quite bright translation tbh
We got some brutal translations, but French also puts in work for the most creative reinterpretation of cards.
the word actually exist in austrian dialects. Roughly meaning 'a cluttered mess' or 'commotion'. Seems weird that they would go into niche dialects like that, but then again it does kinda fit.
Not a fan of archetypes like slivers when you have to deal with your opponent also playing slivers, but in a legacy que it's sweet
Loving the sliver gameplay!
Unfortunate that ThrabenU did not met you in this league so he could clown you back!
I wonder if there is an argument for running some kind of recruiter with some sort of recursion on it. Maybe like some sort of death and taxes style 80 card yorion pile that controls an opponent and then just grabs all sorts of slivers. Probably not, but engagement or something.
Love your new intro music
58:27 in modern I could never keep a one lander without vile I need to start playing Slivers in legacy seems so much more fun than modern.
After demolishing ThrabenU playing Sliver, he inspired you to play it as well? ahahah
Mine was recorded a week before I played against Phil haha
At 15:28 a hearse would save you, right? You could still wasteland that turn and then hope to draw the hearse?
I think I'd play 2 or 3 Aether Vials in this deck (with more lands in the other slots), because they're good but not critical to have. Meanwhile you really don't want to draw multiples.
I know Magic players use the mental shortcut of "if you want to draw a card early, run 4. If you want to draw a card in the midgame, run 1-3." But I have a mathematics degree and it's not like any individual Vial is magically more likely to appear on top of your deck in the early game if you run 4 as opposed to 2-3 Vials. So "run 0 or 4 Vials" doesn't have statistical merit.
The new intro music is ok, but I prefer the old intro music. Both are too loud compared to the rest of the video Imo, its jarring when it autoplays. Other than that appreciate the great content and i hope you have a great day Brian :)
Totally dig this, but it's a shame to get it sent to you and to Phil in such close succession. Wish deck donators would spread them out a bit for more variety.
Phil and I are separate entities and so are all the donors. This happens once in a while. 🤷🏻♂️
Wait WHAT?!
why syphon sliver?
Explanation I've heard is for Murktide so you can get one more swing in after they clock you with it
round 1 game 1 failed to mul second vial
Secluded Courtyard is not strictly better than Unclaimed Territory if opponent can steal lands. Gottem.
🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Now we need an Eldrazi agrro deck!
Yo legacy crowd, can you help me out?
So im playing commander exclusivly in a local group. Since watching that channel i absolutely love the legacy format for many reasons.
However it looks absolutely unaccessable for me. Every deck costs thousands of euros. Playing that in paper magic is absolutely no options, since unfortunately i can not shit money :(
Also i found out that even the "digital cards" on magic online cost money ?!
Can anyone give me a hint how much the kind of the deck BoshNRoll plays cost in magic online? Like the bant decks or the kitten one...
It feels like the paywall is so huge, that i cant get into that format.
Yeah accessibility is a nightmare for these formats, the reserved list is a terrible thing.
My decklists in the video description are on MTGGoldfish, which is also a pricing tool. The cost of the deck in paper and online should be on the top right of the decklist browser window.
In paper, most places have embraced the use of proxy cards for Legacy because of how expensive it is, that’s a way to push the local scene into trying the format.
Online I use Cardhoarder, which is a monthly subscription that lets you borrow from their vendor collection and try tons of different decks. Having that access is the only way this channel works, playing different decks every day. I recommend starting there.
@@BoshNRoll thanks for your answer.
Maybe in our commander group we play a few rounds of legacy with proxy decks.
I was looking for a chance to just play legacy as a "pick up game" every now and then. I like that compared to commander it seems like more "high paced" and nuanced decision making. And more details that matter a lot, since the decks are more reliable for you but also more predictable for the opponents.
But checking the pricing... even with the loan accounts, that would be hilarious. I´ve checked some of the decks i liked from your channel, but thats an easy 1500 tix to have like 2-3 decks (depending how they overlap). Thats, if i understood the system correctly 37,5 tix a week (2,5%) wich translates to about 35€ a week, so 140€ a month.
Unfortunately totally unreasonable if you dont go all in on that. And even then 140€ for virtual cards is quite the banger xD
Guess im gonna have to stay on commander and enjoy legacy on your channel. Its really great entertainment.
Next time i win the lottery i might start legacy :D
Obligatory algorithmic contribution
Where is the Mutavault?
The mana is already terrible
Fair enough. My thought was having Mutavault as effectively an uncounterable creature, but that's pretty much covered by Cavern and Vial. Good video!
Sliver me timbers
I'll be honest, I wasn't going to watch but then I noticed the prisoner reference...
I am quite honestly sick of how consistent and good Izzet Delver is. It's a dead horse from me at this point, but the deck is STILL too good. It's been the Boogeyman of the format for how many years now? I'm to the point where they need to ban Iteration, Daze, Murktide, and DRC. Get back to the OG Delver because the format is such shit right now.
daze has always been a part of delver though
@@jonasjensen8895 I don't care. It's been an unhealthy card for as long as it's been around. Daze should have gone the same banning that Ragavan did. It's ANOTHER free spell that doesn't set them back as far as it should. It's another problem in Legacy, but in Delver more specifically.
You ban engine cards and not the payoffs, right? With that in mind, I'd ban fetchlands.
That cripples Brainstorm and Murktide Regent, plus other delve cards. Plus fetchlands take a long time in paper, are boring to execute in paper, make decks too resilient to nonbasic hate, and help cheaters.
please put back the music
Hmmm
If you could stop playing against boring old UR Delver first round every time that would be great.