Had similar stutters and dips on a RX 6900 XT I bought last year. Replaced it pretty quickly. People say Nvidia are greedy and overpriced, but forking up 1000+ dollars on a GPU and then having issues literally watching youtube is gonna make me prefer paying the extra premium and never have issues. My 4080 is flawless in performance. Nvidia has always been smooth for me. AMD, not so much...
I felt the EXACT same way, like I plug it in and THIS is what I get?! AMD has CPU’s figured out now but GPU’s they gotta get to work on this. Unacceptable if don’t want to be a tweaker for hours on end(I DON’T)
I had no issues with 6800 XT. Windows feels smooth with no lag. No dips in gaming. This is with intel CPU tho. The only problem I had is Micro stutter at beginning of playing but only in some games maybe because I'm using HDD drives but who knows.
I intentionally have to turn down the AC temp when I start gaming. The price of high performance is playing in a mesh tshirt with a fan blowing directly at you while you wipe your forehead with a dense microfiber and multiple showers a day.
What encoder setting did you use to stream/record with the 7900xtx? My biggest question about getting it is if it is able to properly stream and be used for content creation.
Have the 7900xtx Nitro as well coming from a 3080 Ti, haven’t had a single issue. Things a monster, my only complaint is the power draw but it’s stays cool and quiet nonetheless
THANK YOU. The only channel to answer my simple question of “does the AMD card have separate hardware for streaming like the Nvidia cards?”… after looking for an hour. Instant sub. And also thanks for the honest and unbiased answers. Really thinking of grabbing up the 7900XTX red devil. That thing just just looks tight.
I have been watching your content for so long now, i feel like you should have a million subs but as of now its 88k. Still i think you will get there. Thanx.
Yup, I am aware, that’s why it’s getting RMA’d but point still stands. They released a bunch of small **unreliable** cards to market and it’s hard to recommend. I can’t confidently recommend it at it’s suggested list price if those issues are present in large capacity, so that’s why I would say bump up to an AIB or better consider a 4080
lol its a 9 month old vid using a reference card... 7900xtx today costs less than $1200... 4090 is $2k+... yeah... if all you're doing is gaming (and even if you're streaming), the 7900XTX is the best bang for your buck... 4090 is the king of the hill, but only really for folks who are doing HEAVY PC processing. If that's not you, just cop the 7900xtx.
Thank you, yes this video is quite old by todays standards - but without having unlimited money, I don’t want to buy another reference design 7900 XTX and retest it personally but I hope they actually perform now. I wanted to get a 7900 XTX initially with the reference design because of the size, where every Nvidia card in the high end is absolutely massive
@@TooMuchTech You should have put a 4080 into this comparison too, it Was Needed, because its logic, being at the same price with the XTX, actually 4080 is more expensive. I don't own either but you are not objective, why?
@@yeshuayahushua4338 It is objective, it’s just not the conversation you want being had. He’s comparing the top GPU of AMD & Nvidia, it’s not his fault the top AMD card only compares to the 2nd top Nvidia card.
Totally fair. As much as I want to love AMD GPUs, simply because they're hitting so hard in the CPU space, I can't. They're not reliable when you need them most. Black screens, green screens, driver time-outs, stutters that have no fix (because they're intermittent, so you can can never reproduce them on demand to try to fix them) .... it's such a shame. Even though AMD is cheaper than Nvidia, it's still overpriced, and that savings ends up costing you anyway with the reliability / dependability issues. Here's hoping RDNA 4 gets things right.
I remember having a 5700xt and it made me WISH I had my RX 580 back. It's strange the older an AMD card is he more reliable it gets. Nvidia is the complete opposite. Their drivers downgrade older GPUs.
Had a similar stutter issues with Rx 6950 XT it would boost huge fps gain in the max fps against my old 3070 but the lows would be the almost the same and that's what really matters + AMD noise suppression comes nowhere near Nvidia Broadcast...I've sent the card back after 3 weeks of wanting to like it and stuck my old dusty 3070 back in....sorry AMD but there is a reason why Nvidia (unfortunately) dominates the market. Wish AMD would step up their game a be a real GPU competitor...(Not an Nvidia fanboy btw...Have a 5700x3d in my PC and that thing is awesome deal for the money)
I don't understand why he compared a 4090, a card designed explicitly for 4K, to two other cards at 1440p. It's well known its utterly CPU limited at sub 4K resolutions.
I got the 7900 XTX for free. With that said I did follow a popular video that shows to set min clock 100mhz lower than max. Stuttering completely fixed In games that might have it.. Honestly I haven't had any real issues yet with the $7,900 XTX. The only issue that I was able to find so far is if you're using the metrics from adrenaline, for some reason it causes the game to lag skip as the metrics pop in and out of view over and over. AMD software is clearly not refined or optimized. In fact there's just dresser drawers full of options and menus that no one will ever care about. Aside from adrenaline acting funny and it's menus being nasty so far the card has been working perfectly and I can't complain
@@warzone7180 new drivers were not compatible with my system. (Typical amd style) Games would have huge hickups, fps drops, and driver timeouts. Sold the 7900xtx got me a 4070, now I have more fps in certain games, and FG brings me to that level of performance often and beyond. Unbolted and at max load pulse 168watts :) Ultra anything at 1440pnand even 4k. I will never, NEVER get smd again.
See, this is why I released the video in the state I did, as a first time ownership experience of an AMD card, it 100% was *not* faith inspiring at all. Who tf wants to spend aallllll this money on a shiny new PC just to tinker with it daily? The answer is next to no one lol. There’s a niche tweaker community for a reason and I’m not part of it on purpose. Anyone that doesn’t care about tech outside of performance and reliability is not trying to spend countless hours for 3 FPS and an unreliable system to post that they “successfully overclocked” something
@@TooMuchTech 100%%%% Agree. 100% It's amazing really, going from a 7900xtx o a 4070 that gets shit talked, yet having a vastly much better experience hahaha. Loving my AI upscaler for my anime, World of warcraft plays ultra without issue sipping on power at 125watts-168. Origins assassins creed gets 130 in main cities while the 7900xtx was 80. Inconsistent performance. Amazing when it worked well . And glitchy software, so much that it blew my mind. Turning on metrics caused games to lag skip. What did the AMD fan base say to that? And I quote "Turn it off and just use msi afterburner" No, Never again. Nvidia is absolutely WORTH the extra money, 10000%.,
You have a very funny appearance, such a teddy bear that makes you smile, thanks for the video!) Personally, I think that amd video cards are becoming good for games, the only thing amd video cards lack now is streaming improvement and tensor cores or an analogue of such cores, so that in time to turn on ray tracing in games, FPS did not drop as much as it is now. And yes, I forgot to add, I think that rx 7900 xtx is an analogue of rtx 4080, not 4090
im looking to upgrade from: i7 8700k 1080 ti 11gb 32gb ram to: MD Ryzen 9 7950X 16 Core CPU either{24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090] or [7900 xtx] 64GB ram im stumped as there somany mixed reveiws on the xtx... dont want to commit until i know for sure whats best
You got to spin the block and make a new vid using an AIB card and list those prices. A 7900XTX right now is hands down the better purchase, especially if all you're doing is gaming. You're also pairing an AMD CPU with an AMD GPU, you're automatically going to get the best performance possible. 7900XTX (sub $1200) vs 4090 (($2k+)... yeah... 4090 is unnecessary just like the 3090 was for folks who were purely gaming (that's why the 3080 was the best price/performance GPU of that gen)... i'd make the argument to say the 7900XTX is the best price/performance GPU of this gen).
I agree 7900 XTX is the best price to performance, at launch the reference design had a lot of issues that I hope they have resolved. Reason why I made such a big deal is because AMD was marketing the fact that the card wasn’t going to be massive in size, yet this is the one that was having issues as opposed to the AIB Monster sized designs
I also have a 4080 so I am not talking out of my bum. I didn’t specifically release benches for the 4080 because this video took me long enough to do all the comparisons💀 Don’t stand up for companies, let the product stand up for itself. If it’s bad, call it bad.
@@TooMuchTech NO. Stop being fanboi and do as I say and you don't have the right to reply with that nonsense you replied the other guy with, You WILL compare 2 GPUs at the same or similar price, compare XTX with 4080, as simple as that, stop crying now.
@@TooMuchTechdude I am so sorry for you the AMD fanbase needs to stop simping for companies that sell worse products for a similar price. With a worse feature set and worse efficiency, with more issues and less stability
It’s all good my man haha we will be alright. At the end of the day, I’m just providing my thoughts based on my use and HONESTLY I am super disappointed with AMD because I initially planned on tossing a 7900XTX reference card in one of my systems due to the size but I’m looking for reliability and that’s not what I got. Maybe a tweaker is into all that garbage to “make it reliable” but I don’t care about none of that. I need something to be solid, perform, and also be easy to recommend for my viewers that may or may not be as tech savvy as us
7900xtx DOES NOT compete with the 4090, i don't get why some people are comparing them. It's crazy to say but the 4090 if you can get it for close to MSRP is worth it. 7900xtx could and should've cost 850 to 900 for AMD to get a bigger gpu market share. 4080 should've cost at least 900 considering the performance and inflation. And if you have the reference 7900xtx you actually might be having the vapor chamber issue that throttles the performance of the card.
Well #1 this is RUclips, and we all need clicks lol. Plus people wonder how the value stacks up and in some games it actually **does** compete if you watched the benchmarking section I am aware of the reference design issues, that’s why it’s getting RMA’d but point still stands. They released a bunch of small **unreliable** cards to market and it’s hard to recommend. I can’t confidently recommend it at it’s suggested list price if those issues are present in large capacity, so that’s why I would say bump up to an AIB or better consider a 4080
It is 4090 competition, just not a good one. 7900xtx has same power draw as 4090, and AIB models like red devil pretty much same size. Time Spy scores are not too far from 4090, red devil I got scored almost 34000 points with 4090 stock doing 36000ish and 38000 OC'd a bit. Don't be so easy on AMD, they need to do better. Nvidia charges for drivers and software support as well as performance. Both still Very Good GPUs. Some games I play like Nvidia better for now, but Otherwise I did like AMD.
Exactly. 1000+ Dollar GPU’s and they release a bunch of them that have messed up heatsinks when THEY advertised that you didn’t need a new case? I called cap and I stand by it lol. The AIB’s cost more money so it throws them even more so in the realm of 4080-4090 and for those prices, they should be reliable from the get go
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Had similar stutters and dips on a RX 6900 XT I bought last year. Replaced it pretty quickly. People say Nvidia are greedy and overpriced, but forking up 1000+ dollars on a GPU and then having issues literally watching youtube is gonna make me prefer paying the extra premium and never have issues. My 4080 is flawless in performance. Nvidia has always been smooth for me. AMD, not so much...
I felt the EXACT same way, like I plug it in and THIS is what I get?! AMD has CPU’s figured out now but GPU’s they gotta get to work on this. Unacceptable if don’t want to be a tweaker for hours on end(I DON’T)
I had no issues with 6800 XT. Windows feels smooth with no lag. No dips in gaming. This is with intel CPU tho. The only problem I had is Micro stutter at beginning of playing but only in some games maybe because I'm using HDD drives but who knows.
I intentionally have to turn down the AC temp when I start gaming. The price of high performance is playing in a mesh tshirt with a fan blowing directly at you while you wipe your forehead with a dense microfiber and multiple showers a day.
What encoder setting did you use to stream/record with the 7900xtx?
My biggest question about getting it is if it is able to properly stream and be used for content creation.
1440p max/ultra settings on any game while streaming/gaming/multitasking at the same time here I come! I'm getting a 4090 build soon! So excited!
Will you be revisiting the 7900xtx once it's RMA'd?
(7900xtx Nitro+ here, none of the issues mentioned here)
It was a friends, I might but he returned it and got a refund so probably not. Maybe I'll buy a 3rd party one later this year
Have the 7900xtx Nitro as well coming from a 3080 Ti, haven’t had a single issue. Things a monster, my only complaint is the power draw but it’s stays cool and quiet nonetheless
THANK YOU. The only channel to answer my simple question of “does the AMD card have separate hardware for streaming like the Nvidia cards?”… after looking for an hour. Instant sub. And also thanks for the honest and unbiased answers. Really thinking of grabbing up the 7900XTX red devil. That thing just just looks tight.
What point did he mention this?
I have been watching your content for so long now, i feel like you should have a million subs but as of now its 88k. Still i think you will get there. Thanx.
The reference models of the 7900XTX have vapor chamber issues so you were probably having thermal throttling issues.
Yup, I am aware, that’s why it’s getting RMA’d but point still stands. They released a bunch of small **unreliable** cards to market and it’s hard to recommend.
I can’t confidently recommend it at it’s suggested list price if those issues are present in large capacity, so that’s why I would say bump up to an AIB or better consider a 4080
"its hard to recommend the 7900 xtx especially sence its a reasonably sized card and it can fit in most itx builds" bro MAKE IT MAKE SENCE
lol its a 9 month old vid using a reference card... 7900xtx today costs less than $1200... 4090 is $2k+... yeah... if all you're doing is gaming (and even if you're streaming), the 7900XTX is the best bang for your buck... 4090 is the king of the hill, but only really for folks who are doing HEAVY PC processing. If that's not you, just cop the 7900xtx.
Thank you, yes this video is quite old by todays standards - but without having unlimited money, I don’t want to buy another reference design 7900 XTX and retest it personally but I hope they actually perform now. I wanted to get a 7900 XTX initially with the reference design because of the size, where every Nvidia card in the high end is absolutely massive
your vids always so clean
Great video man, I pIcked up a sapphire nitro plus 7900 xtx, no issues.
Nice! Yeah I think some of the early defective cooled reference designs are kind of a miss on AMD’s marketing. I’ve heard great things about the AIBs
This is the review I needed! Going with the 4090!
Do it my man!! 4080 or 4090, both are great. Hopefully they go on sale soon!!
@@TooMuchTech You should have put a 4080 into this comparison too, it Was Needed, because its logic, being at the same price with the XTX, actually 4080 is more expensive. I don't own either but you are not objective, why?
I didn’t have one at the time but now I do
@@yeshuayahushua4338 It is objective, it’s just not the conversation you want being had. He’s comparing the top GPU of AMD & Nvidia, it’s not his fault the top AMD card only compares to the 2nd top Nvidia card.
Totally fair. As much as I want to love AMD GPUs, simply because they're hitting so hard in the CPU space, I can't. They're not reliable when you need them most. Black screens, green screens, driver time-outs, stutters that have no fix (because they're intermittent, so you can can never reproduce them on demand to try to fix them) .... it's such a shame. Even though AMD is cheaper than Nvidia, it's still overpriced, and that savings ends up costing you anyway with the reliability / dependability issues. Here's hoping RDNA 4 gets things right.
Right!!
I remember having a 5700xt and it made me WISH I had my RX 580 back. It's strange the older an AMD card is he more reliable it gets. Nvidia is the complete opposite. Their drivers downgrade older GPUs.
Had a similar stutter issues with Rx 6950 XT it would boost huge fps gain in the max fps against my old 3070 but the lows would be the almost the same and that's what really matters + AMD noise suppression comes nowhere near Nvidia Broadcast...I've sent the card back after 3 weeks of wanting to like it and stuck my old dusty 3070 back in....sorry AMD but there is a reason why Nvidia (unfortunately) dominates the market. Wish AMD would step up their game a be a real GPU competitor...(Not an Nvidia fanboy btw...Have a 5700x3d in my PC and that thing is awesome deal for the money)
Great video. But why are you videos in 30fps? RUclips limits to 60fps, there's no reason to make this video in 30
I don't understand why he compared a 4090, a card designed explicitly for 4K, to two other cards at 1440p. It's well known its utterly CPU limited at sub 4K resolutions.
We want to see the best from AMD and Nvidia head-to-head. He did just that.
That’s it I’m pulling the pin on the 7900 xtx. Coming from a 2080 rtx 🤤🤤🤤
I got the 7900 XTX for free.
With that said I did follow a popular video that shows to set min clock 100mhz lower than max.
Stuttering completely fixed In games that might have it..
Honestly I haven't had any real issues yet with the $7,900 XTX. The only issue that I was able to find so far is if you're using the metrics from adrenaline, for some reason it causes the game to lag skip as the metrics pop in and out of view over and over.
AMD software is clearly not refined or optimized. In fact there's just dresser drawers full of options and menus that no one will ever care about.
Aside from adrenaline acting funny and it's menus being nasty so far the card has been working perfectly and I can't complain
Could u link the video u watched
@@warzone7180 new drivers were not compatible with my system.
(Typical amd style)
Games would have huge hickups, fps drops, and driver timeouts.
Sold the 7900xtx got me a 4070, now I have more fps in certain games, and FG brings me to that level of performance often and beyond.
Unbolted and at max load pulse 168watts :)
Ultra anything at 1440pnand even 4k.
I will never, NEVER get smd again.
See, this is why I released the video in the state I did, as a first time ownership experience of an AMD card, it 100% was *not* faith inspiring at all. Who tf wants to spend aallllll this money on a shiny new PC just to tinker with it daily? The answer is next to no one lol.
There’s a niche tweaker community for a reason and I’m not part of it on purpose. Anyone that doesn’t care about tech outside of performance and reliability is not trying to spend countless hours for 3 FPS and an unreliable system to post that they “successfully overclocked” something
@@TooMuchTech
100%%%% Agree. 100%
It's amazing really, going from a 7900xtx o a 4070 that gets shit talked, yet having a vastly much better experience hahaha.
Loving my AI upscaler for my anime, World of warcraft plays ultra without issue sipping on power at 125watts-168.
Origins assassins creed gets 130 in main cities while the 7900xtx was 80. Inconsistent performance. Amazing when it worked well .
And glitchy software, so much that it blew my mind. Turning on metrics caused games to lag skip. What did the AMD fan base say to that? And I quote "Turn it off and just use msi afterburner"
No, Never again. Nvidia is absolutely WORTH the extra money, 10000%.,
Haha 100% well I hope your new PC keeps working well for you! Enjoy it, that’s what it’s all about at the end of the day👊🏾
You have a very funny appearance, such a teddy bear that makes you smile, thanks for the video!) Personally, I think that amd video cards are becoming good for games, the only thing amd video cards lack now is streaming improvement and tensor cores or an analogue of such cores, so that in time to turn on ray tracing in games, FPS did not drop as much as it is now. And yes, I forgot to add, I think that rx 7900 xtx is an analogue of rtx 4080, not 4090
Yo ma man 🔥 you're rocking this one of your og 🤝
Thank you👊🏾
I have a 3090ti msi
And on epic 1440p on Fortnite I get 240fps constant
im looking to upgrade from:
i7 8700k
1080 ti 11gb
32gb ram
to:
MD Ryzen 9 7950X 16 Core CPU
either{24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090] or [7900 xtx]
64GB ram
im stumped as there somany mixed reveiws on the xtx... dont want to commit until i know for sure whats best
Your benchmark are extremely off. You must have a bad 4090
Are the dips in Fortnite fixed yet anyone?
You got to spin the block and make a new vid using an AIB card and list those prices. A 7900XTX right now is hands down the better purchase, especially if all you're doing is gaming. You're also pairing an AMD CPU with an AMD GPU, you're automatically going to get the best performance possible. 7900XTX (sub $1200) vs 4090 (($2k+)... yeah... 4090 is unnecessary just like the 3090 was for folks who were purely gaming (that's why the 3080 was the best price/performance GPU of that gen)... i'd make the argument to say the 7900XTX is the best price/performance GPU of this gen).
I agree 7900 XTX is the best price to performance, at launch the reference design had a lot of issues that I hope they have resolved. Reason why I made such a big deal is because AMD was marketing the fact that the card wasn’t going to be massive in size, yet this is the one that was having issues as opposed to the AIB Monster sized designs
I get 250 fps warzone ultra same card
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Ayyyee appreciate you big dawg
Maybe next time get a partner card If you're well aware that the 7900xtx reference card has issues. This video was a waste of time.
thanks
Team Red all the way …. Sorry buddy bc my 7900xtx is pure 🔥
Mine too.. literally.. stays 85c on full load!!
Nvidia fanboy
This is my first thumbs Down on any of your videos. The 7900 barely compares to the 4080
I also have a 4080 so I am not talking out of my bum. I didn’t specifically release benches for the 4080 because this video took me long enough to do all the comparisons💀
Don’t stand up for companies, let the product stand up for itself. If it’s bad, call it bad.
@@TooMuchTech NO. Stop being fanboi and do as I say and you don't have the right to reply with that nonsense you replied the other guy with, You WILL compare 2 GPUs at the same or similar price, compare XTX with 4080, as simple as that, stop crying now.
@@TooMuchTechdude I am so sorry for you the AMD fanbase needs to stop simping for companies that sell worse products for a similar price. With a worse feature set and worse efficiency, with more issues and less stability
Bro’s comment is wild lol, are you alright?
It’s all good my man haha we will be alright. At the end of the day, I’m just providing my thoughts based on my use and HONESTLY I am super disappointed with AMD because I initially planned on tossing a 7900XTX reference card in one of my systems due to the size but I’m looking for reliability and that’s not what I got. Maybe a tweaker is into all that garbage to “make it reliable” but I don’t care about none of that. I need something to be solid, perform, and also be easy to recommend for my viewers that may or may not be as tech savvy as us
7900xtx DOES NOT compete with the 4090, i don't get why some people are comparing them. It's crazy to say but the 4090 if you can get it for close to MSRP is worth it. 7900xtx could and should've cost 850 to 900 for AMD to get a bigger gpu market share. 4080 should've cost at least 900 considering the performance and inflation. And if you have the reference 7900xtx you actually might be having the vapor chamber issue that throttles the performance of the card.
Well #1 this is RUclips, and we all need clicks lol. Plus people wonder how the value stacks up and in some games it actually **does** compete if you watched the benchmarking section
I am aware of the reference design issues, that’s why it’s getting RMA’d but point still stands. They released a bunch of small **unreliable** cards to market and it’s hard to recommend.
I can’t confidently recommend it at it’s suggested list price if those issues are present in large capacity, so that’s why I would say bump up to an AIB or better consider a 4080
💀 bro wait till the drivers get fixed I'm sure AMD has something up there sleeve
It is 4090 competition, just not a good one. 7900xtx has same power draw as 4090, and AIB models like red devil pretty much same size. Time Spy scores are not too far from 4090, red devil I got scored almost 34000 points with 4090 stock doing 36000ish and 38000 OC'd a bit. Don't be so easy on AMD, they need to do better. Nvidia charges for drivers and software support as well as performance. Both still Very Good GPUs. Some games I play like Nvidia better for now, but Otherwise I did like AMD.
@@TooMuchTech So you even cry out you have the right to clickbait and misinform, thats just sad man, n
Exactly. 1000+ Dollar GPU’s and they release a bunch of them that have messed up heatsinks when THEY advertised that you didn’t need a new case? I called cap and I stand by it lol. The AIB’s cost more money so it throws them even more so in the realm of 4080-4090 and for those prices, they should be reliable from the get go