Dressing up in late 12th century harness
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- See all the layers a 12th century harness is made up of and how to put it on.
I apologize to all of you with good knowledge of armor from 12th century, that in the absence of anything better, I use the spurs of my 14th century armour in this film. The belt is also å bit to modern. I am sorry. The rest however, is based on a description of Norwegian King Sverre and his barons at the Battle of Oslo in the year 1200, as well as other Norwegian and English sources. The harness is therefore very late 12th and early 13th century to be more precise.
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Yesss!! Those gloves are exactly like the ones you see in medieval manuscripts illuminations. Very authentic. Good job.
Can you give the links to these manuscript illustrations that show the mittens looking the way his do? I have yet to see any manuscript illustrations depicting mittens of the aketon looking like that.
1:59 That was a close one. Looked like your cameraman had to duck! lol
Great kit and an absolutely beautiful shield!
Out of interest, do you have any English sources for the kettle hat? I'm struggling to find anything earlier than late 13th century
There’s quite a few from the early-mid 13th.
BL Harley Roll Y6 Vita Sancti Guthlaci (could be dated to as early as 1175)
BL Harley 4751 Bestiary
Cambridge Ee.3.59 The Life of King Edward the Confessor
CCC MS.26 Chronica Majora
BNF Français 403 Apocalypse
Probably more if you look for them
In the heat of summer, what doe it feel like to wear your kit? How was it maintained historically, especially the textiles parts?
It is warm of
course. As your sweat makes the acaton (inner padding) moist (wet), it helps to adjust the temperature. Eventually you feel more moist than hot. Because of the sweating it is important to drink enough so you do not dehydrate.
To take care of the aceton, you have to wash out the sweat regularly. My tip is that they also did it in the middle age?
Thanks! I love learning all the nitty -gritty details of living life as a medieval knight . The gabesone is made of linen, right? Was it worth washing occasionally? Maybe a knight , if lucky, had more than one? Were gabesones every made from wool, which is a better wicker, but also warmer than linen, in general.
Where is the audio? The footsteps of the horse in the puddle are there at the start, and then it's silent for a while. At 0:50 there's a second or so of what sounds like Gregorian Monk chant. After that, nothing, except for 2:09 where it sounds like someone fumbled a mic.
Very nice kit ! It's great to see people researching the details :)
A few questions:
1. What is the name of the Norwegian source you mention from 1200?
2. I've been trying to find secure sources for the bottom of the mail legs. Your solution of having the sole of the foot built-in is one of a few plausible ways. Did you find a good source for this?
3. For 12th century you mostly only see integrated mail coifs (though I am sure separate coifs have existed). Is your separate coif design based on a 12th century source?
4. What is the source for attaching the mail chausses through the gambeson? This is a very interesting detail!
Very nice work :) Keep it up!
You see more of my Sources in the longer version of this video: ruclips.net/video/n8j1wT81KlI/видео.html. The effegies of William Marshal and his sons in Tempel Church in London has detailed mail chausses. I agree that integrated mail coifs is most common in the 12th Century but late in the century and in the 13th Century you start to get separate coifs. It much more practical in use.
He exactly looks like the character from Stronghold Crusader.
Hello, i have heard you say "harness", plate harness, would you mind telling me exactly what defines "harness" in this situation. Love the videos btw
at least riveted chainmail!
At least? You say that as if the rest is not accurate at all.
@@RickBrode It barely is apparently.
@@RickBrode he totally meant to say at last
@@RickBrodeNot for the late 12th, but it’s a terrific mid-late 13th kit.
What would be the best way to secure the chausses and keep them from falling down?
What an interesting topic for a RUclips channel. Really unique. Subbed.
How is the traction on the feet? I'm noticing that there's no real soles or heels or anything. It makes it look like you're basically just wearing socks or slippers. That can't make it easy when trying to navigate difficult terrain on foot. Especially if you were to get dismounted and fall in the muddy, soggy ground that made up Medieval battlefields.
I know the Romans for example wore sandels with hardened leather soles to provide them proper traction on the battlefield.
Looks great! Ive been looking for a gambeson like this one. Did you make it?
+bigbearinbritain Precisely what I was just thinking? Did you get an answer or did you find a supplier?
Made it my self
Do you know where I can get these?
Что случилось с видео? Раньше звук был, теперь он то есть, то нет...
0:37 May I ask what the straps on the legs are doing? Is that to keep the chain mail from falling down the calf?
Yeah
Maybe a stupid question but wouldn't those knots to secure many pieces of the clothing/armor easily become loose during a fight? Wouldn't be fun suddenly losing a part of your armor mid-battle
Why does the leather strap go around the calves of the mail armor? Is it to support the weight or something? And the wrists too.. is it just to hold the mail armor in place?
battle.
I just wondered how much truth is in movies or games about cutting off lims covered with a mail or plate. Was it even possible? Or was it all about finding the weak point?
Very inaccurate, trying to cut off someone's limb while they are wearing plate/ mail would be pointless even if it not essentially impossible for your foot soldier to do (after all, if you some how find a way to cut off a limb through the armour, I'd imagine the person in question would at the very least no longer be standing).
After all, why would someone spend such large sums of money equipping themselves or requiring their men to do the same for protection that can easily be penetrated. The price some were spending, you could have built a small castle with.
Regarding your second question, yes it was all about finding weak points.
If you would prefer this in video format, I would recommend Ola Onsruds video "How to fight in full 14th centruy harness" (link here: ruclips.net/video/i_RunwNoKUw/видео.html).
With a sword, they would use a technique called half swording, then would aim for areas such as the hand, armpit, neck, face, groin, etc.
Essentially, anywhere where there was a weakness in the armour (e.g. armpit) or where there was an opening (e.g. groin if the person's armour was made to allow them to ride on a horse).
Bludgeoning weapons would be more preferred when facing armoured opponents, due to them being much more effective when hitting them in the head or anywhere, with war hammers and poleaxes being very effective.
Also, swords can be used as a bludgeoning weapon, through the use of the pommel or reversing the sword, grabbing the blade with both hands (mind your fingers over the blade, not because of your sword, but rather if someone were to hit your hand you may lose them) and using the guard as the point of contact.
I like it very much. Great video. How much is weight of equipment?
You find details about that in the longer Version of the video: ruclips.net/video/n8j1wT81KlI/видео.html
Where did you get the straps for below the knee?
I made them
Did personally make/have custom made all of your stuff?
Yes, nearly everything is either custom made or I have made it myself
Nice Spurs .But what about Boots ? .
Any chance of a picture with you just in the gambeson?
In my longer Version of this video, you vil get a better look at the gambason: ruclips.net/video/n8j1wT81KlI/видео.html
Fine horse ,this one. But an armour completely of chainmail was in use already bevor the crusades.Perhaps You date it a little late.(Only a suggestion to check twice,I am no expert.) Also I doubt that the open,hat-style bonnet was worn by knights,seems to belong more to foot soldiers,but again,I may be in error.
This reconstruction is based on several effigies in the Nidaros Cathedral in Trondheim/Norway (1250-1300) and the effigies of William Marshal (death 1219) and his sons in Temple Church in London and the effigy of Robert II of Normandy in Gloucester Cathedral (death 1134). The saga of "king Sverre" (1177-1202) and the saga of "Baglere and Birkebeinere" (1202-1217) describes on several occasions the armor in
use in this period in the Scandinavian countries. The great helmet was of course in use during this period in Scandinavia, but according to the sagas,
even the kings used kettle hats inn battle. Everyone that have participated in a mock battel on foot or on horseback understand why. The visibility in a grate helmet is very limited and so is also the oxygen uptake. The great helmet is very practical in a cavalry charge against enemy cavalry or archers, but gives the one who carries it, little flexibility and overview in a larger battle.
So the mail leggings have integral soles? Are there also examples where the knight or man-at-arms wore sandals over the mail feet? Were both methods of "shoe" used at this time?
I've been looking to do a early to mid 12th century knight and wasn't sure which option would be most accurate. Thanks.
On the 12th and 13th century effigies and illustrations I have seen, the mail leggings has integrated soles, but of course, I have not seen all!However, I saw a late 14th century effigy in the Gloucester Cathedral where the knight wore shoos over the mail covering his feet's.As far as I know, sandals was not in use in Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.
Thank you for the quick response! I appreciate you sharing what you have learned.
А как покакать в нём?
I don't know much about armour, so this may be a dumb question, but what purpose do the red leather straps fastened around your calf play?
It is a garter. They keep the hoses in place. If you do not use a garter for the mail hoses (the mail chausses) sag (slide down) and prevent good movement for the knee.
Where did you purchase the hauberk from?
gdfb.co.uk
Nice
Very good
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The Pope *wants to know your location*
I think he's from sweeden or norway
Sweden *
Es del siglo XIII no del siglo XII...
Are you sure they had belt buckles? If not how did they really connect those straps ?
Belt buckles were available much earlier than the 12th century. As you also see in my video they mostly used laces to strap on the mail and clothing. There are Sources showing that laces were also used on belts and so on, instead of buckles, but even more sources show the use of buckles. Difficult to say what was most common.
I did not know buckles were that old, seems that medieval folk were much more crafty then we gave them credit. Do you happen to know thickness/ID of your mail hauberk rings? Thanks :)
このホウバークで、砂漠の熱に耐えるのはキツそうだ。