Dressing up a 12th century lady
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Another in the Dressing up series - this time an earlier medieval set, 12th century! enjoy!
please note, that as always, all comments that are rude, or simply do not add to the discussion and eductaion, will be deleted. genuine remarks and questions etc are welcome and will be answered as far as I can catch up with them! :-)
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See, now all I'm imagining is the medieval version of the dad-daughter stereotype.
Father: "What are thou wearing 'pon they head?"
Daughter: "Tis the latest style."
Father: "From whence?"
Daughter: "Ugh. London, Father. All noble ladies go to court with hair such as this."
Father: "No daughter of mine shall wear hair such as this. Tis profane!"
Daughter: "Tis fashion!"
Father: "Tis a style that shall set this house with scandal. Thou shalt keep thine hair covered as a good and proper lady. ... Nay, I shall brook no argument. Tis final!"
Daughter *mumbling as she goes back to her room*: "Tis unfair. The queen probably wears her hair this way to court all the time."
Father *sitting down to his desk, mumbling back*: "And should my daughter leap into the Thames, should the queen decide to do as such?"
Thank you for that, made me giggle:-)
Cynthia Jossart made me giggle too.
Very funny conversation
Epic! Thanks for the laughs!
Daughter: aye, so I may fetch her out again.
I wonder if in 3000 years they'll be playing Ed Sheran pop music while showing them how we dress 😂😂
SandGirl LOL
SOMEONE SHOULD TOTALLY DO THIS. Historical re-enactment of a lady of the early 21st century getting ready for the day. Most of it would involve putting on makeup and straightening her hair.
Just give it ten years and someone will do just that.
"They threw on a tshirt that didn't smell too repugnant from the floor and sweatpants. Thank you for watching."
Lmao!! I hope so
It's funny how we in the 21st c assume all previous fashions were hideously uncomfortable. But this looks far preferable to modern jeans, with their tight waistbands and impractical fabrics.. and the idea of a few linen wraps sure beats modern bras, which are simply never comfortable beyond three hours, max.
nothing is mor comfortable than my 11th century clothes! i keep the dresses quite tight around the chest and that suprisingly gives me enough chest support even for running etc. with a C-cupsize. sometimes where the garb at home just for chilling in my flat :D
Even corsets (when not tightly laced and made for YOUR body proportions) are more comfortable than bras.
Because bras hold the weight of your breast by your shoulders.
While corsets and stays distribute the weight of your breasts to your hips and waist.
@@EspeonMistress00 Exactly!
I once read that during the Medieval period, if there was someone giving birth, it was common practice to make sure that everything was open to ensure an easy labour. Women in the house would unbraid their hair, loosen the ties on clothes, remove the girdle, as it was believed that anything tied up would make for a difficult birth. Similarly, men were either told to leave the house or loosen ties and belts, which would mean removing the purse that most men, and many women tied to their belt. They even went so far as to uncover storage jars, open storage chests, open shutters and windows, and unlock doors. If there were books in the house, which was rare, they were taken off shelves and left open.
well I imagine given how dangerous this time was they went and tried everything
At least, they try to help the mother to be. And, it's true if you mentally put your mind everything looks loos it will easy hard labor easy, I'm an African woman and we still believe to make loose the clothing that women in labor is wearing, it will eas the labor, always women had good life in the past. when it comes how to dress or how to take care women's health in the past they were well taking care. Women were mothers in young age which makes easy to have baby and labor too. Women's body were not share by many men like today life where the girl have to meet many men, while looking her future husband, and some even have sleep with every single one, and after that the real husband is not going to be happy because he knows that she been around which they hate and at end many they ended up divorce whereas the old days Humans don't have to deal with breaking family.
@@basraabdulle3526 I think you're looking at this skewedly. People divorce now for miscommunication. (Mostly, sometimes it's about escaping abuse or protecting the children)
This is probably my favorite age for period dresses. Nothing to complicated, the gowns looked warm and comfy, you could move easily in them, and they looked quite simple yet beautiful.
Keep in mind they were fully coverd and its very conservative thing
All in favor of bringing back medieval dress styles, say aye!
Aye!
Aye! But with bra.
aye!
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Aye!
Did any one else noticed that this is a more realistic version of Merida's mom?
Genesis Yriarte totally!
I wish we could wear dresses like these without seeming weird. turn up to shops in pjs and no one bats an eye lid. smh
So I’m assuming Brave is set in the 12th century
Jenny Bagley Sort of...according to the Disney Wiki, Brave is full of anachronisms. It even says "Queen Elinor dresses in styles characteristic of the 12th century..." but enough other plot elements conflict with this that the movie is classified as being set in a fictional time period.
j According the the filmmakers it is, but the women’s fashion seems to be more late 1300s-early 1400s inspired: Merida’s formal blue gown and wimple is made in the style of the late 1300s, and Elinor’s voluminous gown with draped sleeves appears to be one style of overgowns worn during 1400-1430s, though the a-line split in Elinor’s gown is inaccurate, as is Merida’s corset, and Merida’s dark blue gown (the ones with splits that shows her shift- that is an Italian Renaissance gown, not a Scottish gown).
The kilts are completely an anachronism- dates are in dispute, but the believed earliest use of kilts was in the 1530s. As is the Pictish blue face paint- that went out of style a thousand years before this movie, let alone the movie Braveheart, was set (yet another incredibly inaccurate depiction of medieval Scots- just had to mention this in case anyone tries to state that Braveheart had kilts and Pictish blue face paint and it was a “historical“ movie).
11th century actually (based on the last time there were bears in Scotland)
No because you see her put on a corset in brave
Opera Nerd The corset is an accidental anachronism. The filmmakers stated that the film is meant to be set in the 9-10th century (in which case, everything in the film is inaccurate as it shows post-Norman conquest Great Britain).
I wish clothes like these were socially acceptable nowadays they're gorgeous
@Nikasaturn true
There is corrently no public dress code except naked. So dress how you like!
@Nikasaturn I think she means socially acceptable as in not being stared at everywhere you go when wearing these attires xD
There is no one else on this platform who does better period costumes, while also providing cool music and interesting facts! I love your videos because they are so accurate, and they lend that extra element of reality to how people really lived back then.
I love that 12th Century look. Something about the entire ensemble is attractive to me.
This looks so much more comfortable than the outfits from the 1600s and 1700s.
Owen yep and the outfits from the 1800s like 100 layers of clothes
Only 1100s kids will remember
I remember this
not 2010 like me
Even your husband(?) was dressed in period style, bravo! Love the wimple, it frames the face so prettily. The more I see of ancient clothing, the more I love it. Thank you for your presentation. :)
This does look reasonably comfortable compared with other periods in history. No rigid undergarments.
Rigid undergarments are a blessing for some of us...
Periods must've been a nightmare.
Not much more than nowadays, though admittedly no painkillers. Also, most women were too busy being pregnant most of their fertile years :-(
especially for women with hormone disorders....endometriosis or pcos....how did they manage? i can see how women with normal periods made it through but hats off to the women who had to deal with 10+ days of heavy bleeding and clots. it must have sucked.
its interesting how we used to wear headscarves, veils or bonnets up until the last couple centuries it seems yet in modern days a lot of people see that as a bad thing to cover your hair for religion or modesty
even in the first decades of the 20th century it was not really ok to leave the house with uncovered hair - both men and women....
In the 20th century if ypu ddint wear a hat to church it was considered rude etc, suppose its only in 60s and 70s it became acceptable.
That was primarily due to Church sumptuary laws in the middle ages and renaissance. Yes, the church made laws. Yes, they made laws dictating what women could and could not wear. Check it out. Basic rundown on Wikipedia, but they also legislated things like hair coverings and partletts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumptuary_law
People also didn't wash their hair as often as we do, because it was time consuming to get it dry and people worried about catching chills etc, so wearing headcoverings helped keep your hair clean.
Probably also held the hair out of the way while working. Makes sense.
Wow. a style I could actually wear and be perfectly comfortable.
I absolutely love the style of this time. So incredibly gorgeous and majestic
I've always loved those long sleeved dresses.
Reminded me of Queen Elinor from Pixar's Brave
Somini Bhattacharya YES
Although not as elaborate as later styles, I think the simpler more practical beauty of this dress makes it a lovely gown!
"But a well-trained husband would perform just as well ;-)"
*careless whisper faintly plays in the background*
I actually LOVE this outfit and would wear it today if nobody would think I was crazy!
You could pull it off if you stopped at 0:30
I do wear similar outfits (even have a woollen bliaut) and have never even garnered a second look. Yes they are comfortable, though I do admit to wearing a bra over the chemise and under the kirtle (large bust) and my sleeves don't drape as much for practical reasons but I prefer the clothing to modern wear
I have been dressing very eccentric literally since my very early youth and I would say to be honest, it’s more about owning it and making it a real part of who you are you can’t show up like that randomly and sporadically but if it’s a part of who you are and it’s basically consistent the people who know you will not have a problem and even people who don’t know you depending on exactly what direction you go and it won’t really be an issue either though. Especially if you live in a big city where there is diversity and people of different cultures who have different traditional dresses and stuff anyway it really will not be a problem. It also depends a little bit on the specific era I think anything Victorian or renaissance even tutor. Would be fine I think it could be very difficult practically and such to try to dress at the height of the Victorian era where that you had tons and tons of layers and it was extremely complicated but if you just look through different times I think you could probably find a look that you’re comfortable with that’s also basically reasonable to wear and then just start collecting items and
Why would you care if people you didn't know and probably would never see again thought you were crazy? And I doubt they'd think truly "crazy"; the most you'd get is possibly eccentric.....and eccentric is good.
@@wyntermackenzie4952 because that's not my personality. I don't like drawing attention to myself and that definitely would!
Wow never realised that the 12th century was so pretty
This looks so much more comfortable than the attire of later centuries!!
I love the "well trained husband"! :D
wow. i love all styles of dresses from 1100s to 1890s i just ordered my first ever major birthday present a purple vicorian dress with black lace im 17 all my friends think i am wierd :( but oneday i want to have heaps of beautiful dresses like you, you look amazing i love your videos
who cares what other people think, the things that make us weird is what makes everyone unique, be you :)
Evangelene Surgenor you're special, they're not
Happy belated birthday! 🎉🎂🎁 I too love the older fashions. I am a regular at the local ren faire. I have several outfits. Elizabethan, Celtic, Pirate, & Steampunk. I'm constantly adding to them. Don't worry what others say or think. Be yourself. Have a great time being unique. I do! Have a great day! 😊👍✌👸👑🏰🎪🎭💐
Thank you for another awesome video!! I love learning about all historical clothing. Keep up the great work!!😍
Lovely! This is probably one of my favourite time periods of hair and gowns. For women at least. The men's attire I could take or leave. . .as well as the women's headwear. But hey. Some styles now days are just as odd. ;)
For the lacings, were these always on the side? What would women do if they were on their own, for whatever reason, and had no one to help lace up? Or would they just have to wear something 'less' in fashion that had no lacings?
Elentarien side lacings are probably the easiest things to have. It all depends on how you lace it and how long you have the ribbons/cord. I keep mine long so I can just pull over and cinch shut. Then you can tie them up with the girtle or stuff them inside the blaiut.
The wedding gown is absolutely beautiful (and so are you)!!
getting a lot of Merlin vibes out of this video, I am fangirling.
I LOVE THIS DRESS I LOVE THE WAY THE BELT HANGS IN THE FRONT I WOULD LOVE TO WEAR THAT EVERYWHERE I DONT CAE WHAT PEOPLE THINK THAT DRESS IS REALLY PRETTY
By far my favorite era of style. I think it is the simplicity of the clothing (simple but beautiful) mixed with the hair being adorned and seen, unlike some other periods where hair had to be kept totally covered. 👍
@KHALIIL01 never said there was anything wrong. I just think it is pretty how they wove ribbons in long braids. I prefer that style over everything coiled and stuffed under a cover 😊
She dressed like merida's mother from brave movie
So medieval ladies already used extensions! 😂😂😂
Hair extensions of some form have been used ever since
ancient times, like Egyptians and even older probably
Ancient romans bought hairs from Germanic Women and even dyed their hairs blond!
Thanks so much for finally doing this one! My favourite time period, too (what can I say, I'm a sucker for huge flowy sleeves! I have nearly a dozen robes, kimono and fantasy bliaut-style dresses, plus a proper one at some point for SCA garb...)
"..the plaits were on show!"
The Hussies!!! Hussies, the lot of them!!
I love how your videos are so informative, I have learned more about historical dressing through your channel :)
I actually like old fashion cloths they are elegant and pretty
but difficult to wear I think
Really loved the editing on this one and the bit of interaction with the husband as well as his clothes example... And the fancier braids were stunning... I just wish I could see a more close up of getting the hair in... It looks so effortless but I'm sure it's practice and skill... Lovely video keep them coming
you can see more here - adamselindisdress.blog/2014/04/28/12th-century-dress-the-bliaut/
Beautiful as always! The green dress reminds me of Elinor in the movie Brave, except she didn't wear anything over her hair. I have heard that Brave is full of anachronisms and this video seems to confirm that.
Also, love the music!
Im guessing the 189 dislikes, are people that are not from our world! And don't care about our history! Seriously, grow UP! this is the equilivant of AMAZING!!
My favorite era for fashion. What I like most about it is the simplicity of dress, but the elegance and femininity of the attire. Whenever I go to Ren Faire I wear Medieval garb. It's just more flattering AND I don't have to wear a corset :-p
Nice of the gentleman to help dress his lady.
Thank you for sharing this dressing process. We do renaissance period, and people are astounded by the number of layers, and help we need to get dressed.
That wedding dress is BEAUTIFUL!!
I'm thinking of doing a full middle age wedding in An old city center and very old church. I want to wear a dress like this. Not White perse. But this style
@Benazir Fernandes search for the Dutch church Bovenkerk (above church) in the city Kampen. a church from the 1100ths so it once was roman Catholic. Sadly the church no longer houses a Christian community.
We recently joint the Anglican church. So pretty close in tradition. (Sorry for my incorrect English. I'm Dutch.)
@Benazir Fernandes I know. It was hit very bad during the demolitions in the time of the rift between Catholic and protestant. It once startet Catholic. Then went protestant. All the walls were painted white and all statues and gold was removed. On some spots the upper layer of Paint broke and shows the original paintings.
@Benazir Fernandes i believe so. But you can still feel her Grand history inside her walls.
This is probably my most favorite look of all! It's elegant, yet comfy and practical... and those sleeves! I live for those sleeves! I am so completely drawn to this era. I would love to have the wedding dress featured! Well... if I ever get married! LOL!
As always, I LOVE your videos! Keep them coming! Much love!
I love a properly represented head covering. I know it's 9th century but I have to laugh when I'm watching Last Kingdom and the women are constantly going about with no coverings at all. I don't expect high degrees of historical detail from a show,but some kind of veil would be nice.
I know what you mean. You almost never see that in Medieval or historical dramas, the Last Kingdom is by no means the only offender in terms of the lack of head coverings. Some of the other costumes are hilarious though.
I joked that about Brida wearing something that looked a lot like a Bomber jacket in the early series. And leather clothing drives me nuts. There is literally no evidence that Medieval people dressed head to toe in leather.
Before she wear linen veil, she looks similar with Merida's mom from Brave Disney
I wish I could wear these clothes today! I love them so much. Thanks for showing them!
Why not wear them? After all, if it's OK now to go about wearing next to nothing, why should you not wear .... more ..and be far more comfortable!... Without risk of ridicule?
"only the husband would see the hair uncovered and unbound in the privacy of the bedchamber" - love this, says so much more about life than just covering of hair.
That's how it is with Islam and women wearing the hijab. :) Of course it is a personal choice each woman must make for herself, if she wants to or not. I personally choose to. (This is not counting cultural pressures in certain Muslim majority regions/countries.)
lol who cares about islam
Inga Turner i immediately thought of women in hijab when i saw that part of the video. it shows that this type of modesty has been around for centuries in multiple cultures and i find that lovely! 💖 😊
My mother used to say "Long Hair is just for bedrooms". I had to agree that for business it looked sloppy, so used to pin it up, at least partially.
You know when I saw the second dress I casually started thinking narnia
Wow I like this sequence more than the other centuries, it's so beautiful!! Also the veil reminded me of the hijab, especially the part where you mentioned the husband could see it in the privacy of their home
Priorattire, I'm interested in where you get your sources to authenticate your dress for this early period. It looks accurate but I'd like to know much more.
As a musician, I perform in a quite a number of country parish churches. In these buildings are often found plaques and tombs depicting very early English men and women dressed in similar robes/attire. Your videos brings this precious English history to life.
Would like to see you do this one again with a talk-over to explain the finer details. Thank you.
I love this so much! It's like playing dress up all day, but way better!!
Nice to see the metal hair band being used for the right time period for a change 😆
Yes! And if anyone knows where I might locate reproductions of the metal casings for the end of the plaits please message me.
Oh, you look so beautiful and it looks comfortable. Kind of wish we still dressed like this today 🙂
So lovely! All the silk and light wool and linen, it looks like wearing pajamas and a belted robe, so comfortable.
I’m surprised at how comfy that set up is. The books lead you to believe that it was all stuffy and constricting. The fair lady modeling it is quite dashing in it as well. So style didn’t have to mean stuffy. Im tempted to try this set up myself. Though i would cheat a little and add a sports bra.
From what I understand, the Middle Ages didn't have so much time or material to waste, and there were beliefs against needless frivolity, both practical and religious. The Renaissance, and the advent of the corset, however... that's a different story. Also, with three layers of fabric, you can probably get away without a bra, though light linen bras actually did exist if you need the support. See also, the "Lengberg Bra". Who knows what other clever little things women made for themselves as they needed them.
A lot of comments about 3 layers in summer( including wool) but you have to remember; Its all about how the fabric breathes. Also, linen can be made almost paper thin( think linen wrap bandages-you can tear it with your hands)
Lots of people don't know how to put the whole look together for pre-17th century historical reinterpretation. Thank you for putting these videos together and making it easier for everyone!
This is one of the lovliest era dresses.... soooo dreamy....
"well trained husband"
man I just love those huge bell sleeves. 😍
I would actually kill to have such a beautiful dress, damn
No need to resort to murder, we make them bespoke....
priorattire :O that’s really cool
Thank you for the new video - I always love to watch them - they are both educational and entertaining!
Thank you so much for this video! I've been reading some books set in this period and suddenly it all makes sense. Amazing how many clothing descriptions I've glossed over without understanding what they've meant over the years. Now I do 🙏
I love seeing what they wore, it helps to bring history alive
I love these types of videos. I wish I could just go back in time and experience every day life in these times. I wonder if they wondered about us too, hundreds of years in the future. I wonder how they thought life would look like 1000 years later?
It isn't as sweet as it looks.
bananaman that’s obvious, I’d still want to go back. I wouldn’t care if it’s different to what we have now. I do kinda wish I was born in these centuries as opposed to now
Avalerie 696 I’m very well aware that it wasn’t. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to go back, people always assume I’m a naive girl who knows nothing. I’ve done a huge amount of research and I’d still go back to those times. So ya thank you
Iiris T I’m extremely grateful to be alive now, but I can also promise you I’m not naive, I’m a massive history buff and know an extensive amount of this information. But u also appreciate you looking out for me, but ya I’d still love to go back although definitely not in the medieval era, I’d rather it be the 18th century. Anyway it’s just how I feel and I’ve always felt, in a weird way kinda connected to older eras (this is prob making me sound stupid 😂). That’s all I have to say
Also I’m fully aware of everything women have done for us!! I never ever stated that it was better in the 12th century, I just stated I’d love to go back. I’m so happy I can do things now a days and that I can follow my passions and marry who I love. Tbh tho I’d rather spend a week or like a moth there rather then being born in that time. So ya! I’m more than happy to be alive now but I’d love to experience maybe just one day or a few in the past. But I promise you I’m not disrespectful to all the other women of the pass. Have a good day! :)
You had me at "no bra".
Absolutely exquisite
I think this one is your oldest time period. Could you do one older than this?
For some reason the past is so interesting to me rather than the future it’s charming on the surface but it also has bad things to it
Nothing can beat historical fashion. I dont give a darn what people are gonna think, i wont stop dressing historically.
I would literally wear this 24/7.
Literally trying to figure out a way to make a shorter bliaut for summer, made of linen.
I looooove this!
Schumadien same! I want to wear this as my normal daily fashion.
Easy, just... make it shorter.
You're going really far back in time! I love it! What's the farthest back you've built costumes for/reenacted, and how far back would you like to go?
5th century. Not much of en interest for before, though wouldn’t mind some Greek, Roman or Egyptian styles!
Oooh I think the 12th century fashion is my favorite now
Oh 12th century your so simple, unlike 16,17,18 century
I wish I could dress like this without being called grandma...
These dresses hardly look grandma-like, unless your grandma is a hardcore LARPer. A teacher in my highschool was a re-enactor and would occasionally show up in semi-medieval garb but we didn't even realise before she told us. In these times especially, people don't really care about your clothes half as much as you think they do.
Why do you care for what others say-
I dress in olden dresses and people don't care too much, just get compliments.
@@random...3723 I think it might just be the area I live in, and I know that people’s comments shouldn’t effect me but I still get a bit self conscious.
@@bambi6900 aw:(
This is my favourite era, simple but elegant and no bra or corsetry!
Looks exactly like the mom from Brave
Gail Jansen queen Elenor
That's what I was gonna say as soon as I saw the thumbnail!
Gail Jansen exactly
This is beautiful. I don't know why, I've seen so many of your videos, but this one just made me feel a rush of pride for my heritage, so long ago. I want to wear an outfit like this one day
I'd totally wear this if it was socially acceptable for me to do so.
Me too. Alpha line is my favourite :) Especially for blouses and long dresses. I simply adore the long sleeves :) - (as well as the bell bottomed jeans!!! :)
Go ahead.Quit being a slave to the majority voice.
Become she who decides what's acceptable, rather than she who is decided for. Attitude and a great look will get you farther than a great look alone.
Wear it anyway!
Excessively long sleeves aside, this attire appears comfortable and practical.
In the entire Medieval period, this was the most attractive attire for women. I didn't care for the tall hennins, turbans and cone-shaped headdresses in the 14th century while women were plucking the hairs on the forehead and eyebrows.
Yesssss!!!! I LOVE medieval fashion!!!!
Meh too
I think I like this style the best! No extra layers or style to add. Loving the different videos of woman's garments! Thanks for sharing!
Geez, now i get why the clothing industry was so important back in the medieval times because that's a lot of layers.
clothing industry didnt exist per se - but textile industry was thriving!
Textile, that's what i meant :)
Isn't this more comfortable than skinny jeans?
yup and more classy to
Not my skinny jeans. They are very comfortable.
I would love to have a kirtle like that. Love the long lose simple styles of the day
we sell them....
@@priorattire Just curious. I know you sell to people who reenact early centuries for museums, and theatre and such but have you ever sold to people who actually just want to wear these outfits?
I am charmed to realise that this is exactly the time period of the "Brother Cadfael" stories by Ellis Peters. So the women in the stories must have been dressed just like this! This video it much easier to imagine the details of life at that time.
I am so joyed that you mentioned Brother Cadfael, I love the stories and have all 20 books in 7 omnibus editions and yesterday the ITV series with Derek Jacobi arrived in almost brand new condition as purchased on eBay UK. the stories and character are so popular that in Shrewsbury, near Wales (the midlands) there is an official Cadfael walk and tour, I live some distance away though in Sussex County, in the south. Shrewsbury is still popular for the abbey
I have to say I think like this period of dress the best. Although, the no underwear thing would take some getting use to. Granted if you are born in that time you wouldn't know any different. :-)
The shift/chemise/underdress was their underwear, especially the bottom half of it. Even in North America and Europe, lots of women didn't wear modern underpants until well into the 20th century. They're actually not healthy for women, especially if made from synthetic fabric, and the tightie-whities are bad for men.
I AM AMAZED THAT YOU CAN BRAID YOUR HAIR LIKE THAT!!!
I'm seeing too many comments criticizing it, even if the comments are positive overall. This video was great from speed to historical accuracy to style!!
Love this one the best. Simple and I love the deep green color😁😁
Thank you for your study and contribution! I've had a lot of questions answered by watching your vids. Thanks!!
these clothes are really pretty tbh