I've never been a Ford kinda guy especially from a automotive technician point of view but theres something about the Raptors bring out the inner child in me.
What off-road worthy vehicles do you like, from an automotive technician point of view? You probably have the best inside knowledge of what's good and what's bad.
@@adampolselli597 its more of what I prefer to work on and reliability. I've worked on planty of ford and to be honest they cut corners with some of the parts quality. Have no experience with the Raptors can speak just love the idea of them. Something reliable for offroad can be difficult to answer depending on what you want to pay and how hardcore you want to go etc......
@behexen250 oh I wouldn't buy one they look awesome and I'm sure they're good at what they do. But personally wouldn't buy a ford. I dont live near a dessert anyways so I have no use for a raptor. The offroading I do your better of in a midsize truck or jeep.
behexen250 I’ve own multiple ford, Gm, and Toyota products, Toyota is by far the best but they have no soul, Ford are usually pretty easy to trouble shoot and most things can be done at home, newer Gm’s on the other hand make you want to tear your hair out.
I work at a Ford dealership, have driven both of these generation trucks... The newer one has more tech and a slightly better laid out interior, and I think it looks better. But the older one just feels a little more special, it's hard to describe it. I think the 6.2L V8 has a lot to do with it, MUCH better sounding engine to go along with the aggressive look. Both very cool trucks!
If you listen closely, he's NOT just trading trucks for the (less powerful but better sounding) V8 engine. He's planning a lot of mods that would not be "financially" wise on that new $70k truck. He's buying the older one because it won't be a financial loss to do major modifications. He wouldn't be getting $60k for his 1 year old truck if he had major modifications that altered it much from factory. He'll need to do engine work to the older one to get the performance of the 3.5 EB. I just happen to have a 3.5 EB in my personal truck and a 6.2 V8 in my work truck. So I get to drive both on a regular basis. 😁
Actually if you read between the lines he's saying it wouldn't make sense to put a bunch of money into a truck with a V6 because it has limited potential.
NYCnMiami go to five star tuning web site ,u can turn up the boost on a turbocharged engine there is a 100psi boosted 4cly in a red demon that’s running low 7s in the 1/4mile watch Cletus McFarland
Both engines are good.. the 3.5 has tones of power and potential for a lot more.but at the same time I agree that having a nice sounding V8 seems more fitting for a badass truck like the raptor
@@williamchapman2434 I do watch Cleetus. I haven't seen the red demon tho. I told my bro in law about 5- star and he got one of their free tunes for his programmer. I haven't made that jump yet. Although I found out my truck shuts off just over 105 tho recently. Can't have that so I might get a tuner. Probably one that loads 5- star tunes nicely
@@FireChicken37 I have an 11 Platinum with a 6.2L. Look forward to starting and driving it every morning! Last owner installed a great sounding exhaust too!
I have an 2011 Molten Orange Raptor, super cab, loaded. Full stainless works exhaust, headers to the dual tail pipes. No V 6 Raptor sounds like mine. Pro tuned, BFG Radial KO 2-35s on bead lock rims, K&N CAI, numerous bolt ons too. You can keep the new ones, I get compliments on mine every single time I take it out. To each their own.
And remember, the power rating eventually went to 415HP. Ford decided to go off of 93 rating vs the 91 octane rating. It was like 408 for 87 octane. 411 with 91 octane. 415 with 93 octane. Oh and I love my 13’ Tuxedo Black Raptor. Gets compliments all the time.
15-20% financial loss after one year of ownership is massive for that 2019. The dealership is going to turn around and sell that truck for just under 70, I guarantee it.
I mean, that's what a dealership does, buys your car for less than its actual value so they can make a decent profit off of it. He could have easily made back a lot more of his money if he sold it himself, but clearly he didn't want the hassle.
@kevin, you are right. He is also a millionaire so he isn't spending as much of his income on a car like this one. For normal people he would definitely advise against this type of purchase.
I did the same thing! Sold my black Gen 2 for a white 2014 Gen1. The Gen 2 has beautiful amenities and features but does NOT have the engine sound of the V8 Gen 1. Love my 2014.
No he's right. Buying a used vehicle always a risk. But a raptor is one of those special used that's a double edge sword. Like a JDM legend skyline/Supra. Or a cobra Stang, evo's they're previous life is everything. They're either really really good or really bad. A raptor is alot less likely to be abused but if it was it could be very bad towards repairs.
@@benwilliams9172 I purchased my 2013 raptor roush a couple of years ago and it's been nothing but fun . If possible try to purchase a one owner truck . And try to go for an unmolested one as well
angela anderson okay, I get the Gen1 is more of an off-roader with a proper V8 power plant vs the sports car HO EconomyBoost Turbo engine but how do you account for the more advanced Fox shocks and chassis improvements over the old? But like I mentioned, the Gen2 looks better... period.
The fact that the current Raptor doesn’t have a V8 is no handicap at all. That High Output EcoBoost (450 HP, 510 LB-FT) blows the old V8 out of the water.
Tyler McLean nah mate I have owned several cars and used them in a harsh environment, boosted engines lose huge amount of power when it’s over 100F. I didn’t jump into this statement without being through this experience.
If you were ever wondering who the heck is shelling 70k for a pure joy ride truck this video gives a pretty good idea. And I thought ( clearly wrongly) that skiing is an expensive hobby!
@@trentopinto5 Even if you don't consider racing a sport (wtf), you still are not even close. Hockey is amazingly expensive. Just the catching glove alone for a goalie can be over $500. That's a factory glove too. Now add in ice time, league fees, and the rest of the gear... easily can fall into the "wow, that's way too much" category.
Congrats on the Gen1! Another thing that sets apart the SE's from others: different colored beauty rings on the beadlock rims. It's a fairly common mod for us non-SE owners to get the beauty rings powdercoated. Do you think you'll be able to swap that 3rd brake light over from a Gen2 to a Gen1? And .... between 0 and 5: how many seconds did it take you to dump that hideous tonneau cover? :)
Robert Glastra whoa I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info. I have already looked into selling it... I’m doing a family road trip soon but that thing is on the market as soon as I get back
I 100% agree with you. Unless you live 1000 feet above sea level, there is no reason for the twin-turbo. In the South, unless you live is Asheville, NC, you do not need a turbo. I hate to say this, but I bet the V8s are going to skyrocket in value. Just when I wanted to buy one.....:( I would repaint the Gen 1st to white.
Absolutely love the sound of that V8! Just proves to me that “Progress” is not always a good thing, these fancy new turbocharged V6’s have power, but they lack soul. I am sure Ford has their own definition of TFL now, “Tough F’n Luck” if you want a V8, here is a roid raging squirrel in a spinning wheel.
Haven't driven the new one then, huh? very few miss the V8 after driving the gen2. my stock 2017 is faster than my friends supercharged Gen 1 on and off road (I have videos to prove it).
@@T4nkcommander Then there's something wrong with your buddy's truck. Stock the new ones only make 30 whp more than the old ones. And with a Whipple the old ones make 120-150 whp more than the new ones with a tune. It's not even close.
@@NYCnMiami Torque is much more important in these trucks. 510 to 450.... In addition, you forget power to weight ratio. Gen 2 is aluminum. I'm 700lb lighter without accounting for the dual spares he runs.
blucollardad we have a 2019 Bullitt, the 5.0 in it sounds amazing and has waaaayy more than enough umph to get you into trouble quick! Love that 5.0. Turbochargers are for diesels and airplanes!
I have the first gen raptor, what makes NA more desirable? Its a great truck but you can just feel it gargle gasoline, especially on a cold start Lol. With forced induction you gain a bit of efficiency with the higher compression ratio, and still have the power when you need it.
The most amazing this about this is that Gen 1 costing 30K with only 70k miles on it. Balderdash! Every gen 1 I’ve seen for that price has at least 120k miles on it lmao
Man what a hard decision to make but I can respect the reasons behind it. It’s funny though, it’s like he is saying I traded my 2019 in to get this beater to go mudding. 🤣
@@actontreadway1168 for a trail rig? Jeep Wrangler TJ. Older tacoma. Older land cruiser. I’ve got a 3rd gen tacoma TRD off road. It gets the job done, but I’d say that width is as wide as you want for our trails. Raptor is too wide for most trails.
People say this, but that doesn’t make it true. My friend’s 2016 5.0 with 35k consumes more oil than my 2016 2.7 with 37k. The V-8s with cylinder deactivation are complicated and not reliable at all. I would never buy a GM or RAM V-8 with those systems. The turbos are proven technology and less complicated. So, I like the way Ford is building trucks. The coyote is definitely the best of the V8s right now, but I like my eco boost better than any V8 I’ve owned.
Absolutely not true lol the eco boost v6 is built unfucking real strong the 6.2 is relatively weak with a tight ring gap so if boost is ever added it pops quick. It’s amazing how uneducated your comment was.
It's hilarious how people think the EcoBoost have more moving parts and will be less reliable. Turbochargers have one moving part, so once you take away two Pistons their valves and other components I'm pretty sure you'll end up with less moving parts🤔
@@billdauterive246 a framing hammer has proven itself to be very reliable over the years, but for some reason the roofers across the street are using cordless air nailers. Man are they going to regret that purchase 🤣
Scott Cravens Not true. The 6.2 V8 is a stronger package than the EcoBoost. You are comparing a light duty passenger vehicle engine to a 3/4 ton duty truck engine here. 6.2 is a big bore cast iron block with cross bolted mains in a naturally aspirated setup. The EcoBoost or any half ton motor for that matter isn’t running with the 6.2 on longevity. The 6.2s are overbuilt for their purpose and Ford built them to work hard.
I have both Trucks in super cab configuration. I prefer the Gen2! They are completely different trucks! The Gen 2 is way more fun off roading, the Gen 1 is more fun on the streets.
Yeah, a stock Gen 2 has won RaptorX two years in a row against some really built Gen 1s. I used to struggle to think how Ford would improve on the Gen 1, but now that I got a Gen 2 it is hard to look back
Love everything about the new raptor but the exhaust sound :( kudos to ford though for being way out in front of the game 10 years ago. Here we are in 2020 and still no real competition from ram and GM
Yeah, cant stand the exhaust sound. Sounds like an old Toyota Tacoma with the 3.4. Love the Tacoma's but was never a fan of how they sound with an aftermarket exhaust. I cant get past the exhaust note on the raptor. I know you can change exhaust but that will only make it louder. Everytime I see one I think to myself that is a bad ass looking truck, then the guy takes off and I'm so disappointed in the exhaust note. Love the volume, just hate the note.
rochab77 totally agree with you. Baddest truck on market but man the exhaust note is cringe worthy. And this is not me hating on the Engine as it’s powerful and torquey
@behexen250 LOL I got three friends with over 100k, (and at least 20% hard offroad miles) without any issues. well, the guy that tuned his to the limit blew the engine. but the stock trucks have no problems.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix agreed. Glad I'm back in a V8 again, a V6 will never sound like a V8, even if it makes more power. I've heard some V10's and V12's that have V8 type exhaust sound though
@R J Why the gas powered light duty trucks for hotshot fleet? Also Sounds like the stretching timing chain and/or cam phasers is an all too common problem and its no simple repair. Ive done it on my 2013 ecoboost because it had the stretched chain rattle.
@R J Gocha. Hearing the word Hotshot, a dually with a long flatbed or car hauler comes to mind as opposed to last mile haul or express delivery...I've been looking at the newer ecoboosts with the 10speed lately, mainly for the efficiency aspect of light duty trucks
Both nice rides. I agree, if you want to modify and run it hard its better to do it on the cheap side. Even though 33 large isn't cheap. Great content, love the channel and these segments.
I love the sound of a v8, but the newer Raptor is such an improvement. Besides my wife would appreciate the quite of the v6. With the turbo I certainly would not be short on power.
@@firebry23 Yeah. He kept saying it was a financial decision. I think he wants to mod the truck a lot. And doing so to the new truck would actually cause it to LOOSE value. Which is true. The older one makes more sense to do major mods and not worry about a $70k truck.
I love my 3.5 EB Platinum F-150 I love V8 sound and these don't sound good. So it will be the first one I don't make loud. Lol I might remove the cats tho.
kyle g why is it everyone thinks a v6 won’t make power?? The Ford got is 647 hp with 80 percent the same engine as an F150 ecoboost. That’s just old school thinking man. Europeans been doing in for years. I’m buying a gen2 raptor for fuel economy said no one ever.
I think they should make a small ecpboost v8 for the raptor, maybe 3.8-4.0 liters. It would sound much better, more power, and wouldn't be under boost as much, which would help fuel economy because turbo engines have to run rich under boost to avoid pre-detonation. A small v8 would be nice. Keep the 2.7 as a base, offer a twin turbo v8 as an option.
With the new Ram Rebel TRX coming, Ford may need to get ready to pull the supercharged 5.2L cross plane crank V8 from the Mustang GT500, in to the Raptor.
@@swamprobin3291 Which would make it worse, because a lighter front end with more torque is much better. The TRX is going to be anemic offroad and cost over $100k. It will pull on the road I suppose tho.
Good Video Andre!!, This fellow is pretty much like me!, If you want to modify your truck, it does not make sense to purchace a brand new one. Makes sense to purchase 5-8 yeras old and do your modifications. Especially if you are replacing suspension, wheels, adding more power....
HEY FORD WE WANT A V8....Not a lawnmower sound...Even my wife who doesn’t care about anything vehicles says the new Raptor sounds horrible doesn’t match the look of the truck
@@myrongaines5542 I'm pretty sure you could mod the V8 to make more power and still have money left for other stuff but I guess someone like you would rather buy a fast car than build one 😉
jldude84 I believe they are going electric on the F-150. One day you will see a hybrid and the exhaust will sound like “weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” as it zips down the interstate.
Been liking the at home editions but I missed you guys actually interviewing people, goes more in depth and it’s fun with you guys picking people brain
The new Raptor looks and IS vastly better and lighter than the old one, but because Ford in their stupidity decided to use an Ecoboost instead of a good tuned, supercharged Coyote like it deserved, I can't blame this guy at all.
Yeah I added this NOS sticker in the back, supposed to give me extra 25 hp, and then see this tint, its custom they had to fit it, oh and I also added tire gloss. You can't have a Raptor without some custom tire gloss...
Every time I see a new Raptor I think it looks cool - but then I hear the V6 and it’s a total let down. Sounds like a Toyota Camry. I don’t care how fast it is a V6 is the wrong engine for a truck. Put a Coyote in there.
R J I’ve driven 2 of them. One a 2015 f-150 and a 2018 raptor. I don’t like them, noise isn’t there, honestly the performance is overrated, and I don’t trust twin turbos on a V6 platform. And I also don’t like how there transmissions are tuned to shift, hunt too much. No one I know has had good luck with ford, including me. I bought a 2016 Ford Explorer limited 3.5, absolute pile. Thank god it was under warranty because the recalls and time in the shop amounted to more than I drove it. Never again will I buy another ford product. Not because I hate them for no reason, but I don’t trust them anymore.
Baron Volkov oh absolutely, the 6.2 is one of my favorite ford engines. Almost the perfect V8, plentiful power and torque, smooth and most importantly they’re dead reliable. I take back what I said, I would purchase a 2011-2014 F-250. They pull good and sound good. Ford definitely did something right with that one. I just do not wanna touch any of their ecoboost V6’s at all. Had too much trouble and heard a lot of horror stories. How do you like that raptor? I’ve thought of getting me one down the road.
I had a twin turbo EcoBoost Expedition for about a month. A absolutly hated it. When you smash the gas, there would be a 1 to 2 secong period 9of downshifting and building boost. The midrange power would come in super strong and was actually impressive. Then if would fall flat on it's face in the upper RPM range. It also started to smoke at idle while I had it, presumably from premature turbo seal leakage. This was a low milage truck too.
I traded in my 14 Raptor for a 2017 F-150 supercharged Roush. I liked the Raptor but it had its flaws... 1. It made alot of noise but was kinda slow. 2. The shocks are no good in cold weather and shit the bed even though the truck never seen dirt and cost a small fortune to replace. 3. Alot of wind noise inside the cab going down the highway. 4. It had the famous Raptor whine during start-up in cold weather (steering pump issue) that should have been a re-call along with the fuse #27 issue. Not too sure why Ford never addressed these two issues?!
Basically he lost a $1,000 a month on depreciation. Add that to his I guess $800 a month payment pretty expensive monthly cost. But he loves his truck.
@John John whats the crying about "personal finances"? Its simple numbers, doesnt matter who's numbers they are, numbers dont lie. If a guy cant afford to throw a bunch of money at modding a 70k truck and decides to downgrade and mod an older one, great thats his choice, but its damn obvious that such choice was made with personal finances in consideration. I'll take it a step further and would argue that if you cant buy a car/truck outright, you have no business buying it. Financing vehicles is a link in the slave chain which keeps the middle class poor in America.
Yeah, once you've enjoyed a good V8 exhaust note, you can't go back (or if you do, like I had to at one point, you'll be back to a V8 when you can, like I am once again)
Love my Gen 1 raptor. Great to see the comparison. BTW, the spare tire on the gen1 is lose. Could see it when doing the exhaust comparison. Might want to tighten that up. (mine come lose from time to time)
Gen 2 looks far better in my opinion. More "robust" looking. And I can appreciate that the V6 makes as much power ad it does. And with some exhaust mods you can make it sound mean. But you just can't beat the V8.
Very comprehensive overview of the process on both trucks. The only thing I’m curious to know from the owner is are there any plans to address the front end difference? Speaking strictly aesthetically the Gen 2 front looks so much better than the Gen 1.
I have a 2019 White Raptor , before owned a 2006 Siverado, The raptor new Gen is something special just out of this world , my friend had a older v8 Raptor we raced not even close that eco boost v6 twin turbo is a beast.
Ford could have avoided a lot of bullcrap if they would have just included an optional V8 for the new Raptor. Any time I've ever heard anyone talk about the new generation the V8 always comes up. That was sheer stupidity on the blue ovals part.
I had both not everyone can afford a high payment good excuse I like old more I have new v6 tuned to 580 on wheels and 643 torque I hope this guy doesn’t run into me I’ll make him wish he kept his v6. Also looks way nicer and never broke down ever with 32k miles on the odo as of today I have 2017
Doesn't include the tax title and reg he paid. Ultimately he lost 10k from the truck alone but an additional 12k+ on fees and more on the 2014 replacement. Clearly he can afford it but still. His argument is its more cost effective to have the old when he just shelled out 30k in depreciation and fees. Wish I could afford that ignorance lol
Andre, I could tell you really wanted to shake his hand. I’m right there with you. It feels so weird and unnatural not to shake someone’s hand. But someday soon! Great video; love your enthusiasm you have for all things truck! Keep up the good work!
Could't agree more with this decision! I've got a 2012 Raptor and put 145k miles on it thus far, driving all over the USA. Nothing like the sound of that V8! Once this baby hits 250k miles on the odometer I only see two acceptable options as upgrades/replacements: MegaRaptor or BA350!!
I don’t own a Raptor but I do own 2011 Lariat Limited that has the same engine as the 1st gen Raptors. I like to tell people that my Raptor is wearing a tuxedo! You know, there are certain cars/trucks that just should not be messed with and Ford did this to these 2 icons by getting rid of the V8 in favor of V6s and these 2 vehicles I am speaking of are the GT(40) and the Raptor…now, I know there are others but these 2 jumped right to the forefront. If the same engineering went into the V8s as Ford did with the V6s then I feel Ford would have kept the V8.
Logic. To be fair, only the 2010 and 2011 models had the regular f150 frames. It got reinforced in 2012, so he should be good. He also said Raptor Assault was impressive, so 'fast' is 30-40mph to him.
I'm concerned that they are still having VVT (cam phaser) problems. The v-6 is starting to show signs of problems. I was a long time Ford customer who had catastrophic failure of the 5.4 liter 3-valve. Eating a $7,000 repair was not good, plus dealing with a Ford lawyer and customer service was not good.
The way the money lost on the v6 truck was described is kind of misleading. Saying he paid about 70k and is being given 60k sounds like he lost 10k but there are other factors. If he financed it then the first year he really did not pay down the principle on the truck much and most of the payment went to pay interest so he most likely still owes close to 70k. He already paid sales tax on the 70k vehicle and now has to pay tax again on the 30k vehicle. Expensive lesson learned.
Great video review. Love the sound of a honkin' V-8!
Same here brother.
Ab so fing lutely
I've never been a Ford kinda guy especially from a automotive technician point of view but theres something about the Raptors bring out the inner child in me.
What off-road worthy vehicles do you like, from an automotive technician point of view? You probably have the best inside knowledge of what's good and what's bad.
@@adampolselli597 its more of what I prefer to work on and reliability. I've worked on planty of ford and to be honest they cut corners with some of the parts quality. Have no experience with the Raptors can speak just love the idea of them. Something reliable for offroad can be difficult to answer depending on what you want to pay and how hardcore you want to go etc......
@behexen250 oh I wouldn't buy one they look awesome and I'm sure they're good at what they do. But personally wouldn't buy a ford. I dont live near a dessert anyways so I have no use for a raptor. The offroading I do your better of in a midsize truck or jeep.
@behexen250 What do you think of this guy buying an older gen? Even more of a nightmare? Newer gens usually have the kinks worked out...
behexen250 I’ve own multiple ford, Gm, and Toyota products, Toyota is by far the best but they have no soul, Ford are usually pretty easy to trouble shoot and most things can be done at home, newer Gm’s on the other hand make you want to tear your hair out.
The new raptors just look better tho. The front stance is just a more clean polished design compared to the first gen.
Just get a new raptor then find a wrecked 350 with the 6.2 and swap it in
Or start with a 5.0 truck and build from there. I’m sure it would be a nightmare with electronics installing an N/A V8 in a turbo V6 truck.
@@Prestiged_peck 5.0 TT coyote would be nice
@@HeathRS well if I did it it'd be a baja build and I'd want a 6.2 anyway
Just get a velociraptor which has a v8
I work at a Ford dealership, have driven both of these generation trucks... The newer one has more tech and a slightly better laid out interior, and I think it looks better. But the older one just feels a little more special, it's hard to describe it. I think the 6.2L V8 has a lot to do with it, MUCH better sounding engine to go along with the aggressive look. Both very cool trucks!
“ I want to get the kings 3.0’s”.
Andre “ yah I hear the fox 3.0’s are really good “ 😂
If you listen closely, he's NOT just trading trucks for the (less powerful but better sounding) V8 engine.
He's planning a lot of mods that would not be "financially" wise on that new $70k truck.
He's buying the older one because it won't be a financial loss to do major modifications.
He wouldn't be getting $60k for his 1 year old truck if he had major modifications that altered it much from factory.
He'll need to do engine work to the older one to get the performance of the 3.5 EB.
I just happen to have a 3.5 EB in my personal truck and a 6.2 V8 in my work truck.
So I get to drive both on a regular basis. 😁
Actually if you read between the lines he's saying it wouldn't make sense to put a bunch of money into a truck with a V6 because it has limited potential.
gen 2 3.5 trucks have far more potential than gen 1 6.2 trucks.
NYCnMiami go to five star tuning web site ,u can turn up the boost on a turbocharged engine there is a 100psi boosted 4cly in a red demon that’s running low 7s in the 1/4mile watch Cletus McFarland
Both engines are good.. the 3.5 has tones of power and potential for a lot more.but at the same time I agree that having a nice sounding V8 seems more fitting for a badass truck like the raptor
@@williamchapman2434 I do watch Cleetus.
I haven't seen the red demon tho.
I told my bro in law about 5- star and he got one of their free tunes for his programmer.
I haven't made that jump yet.
Although I found out my truck shuts off just over 105 tho recently.
Can't have that so I might get a tuner.
Probably one that loads 5- star tunes nicely
2014 raptor with 75k miles on it for 30? I think that’s pretty good honestly
That’s insane. I’m looking at the same truck only 2 years older and with significantly more miles (up to 50k more miles)listed at $37k-$42k now
@@cargopilotguy305 taylor ford 55k miles $37k 2012 6.2L
got one with 150k for 25k recently so i say he scored on that price.
I did the SAME THING. Sold my '17 V6 for a '14 6.2 V8. Love the fact that I did it. V8 is the way to go with a Raptor.
Just got a 14 myself. Only 2k more than a 16 Lariat fully loaded. Soo much better.
@@FireChicken37 I have an 11 Platinum with a 6.2L. Look forward to starting and driving it every morning! Last owner installed a great sounding exhaust too!
I did exactly the same thing. Better value I feel for a supercharged V8 with a fully built engine, suspension, trans. Love it.
So, trade up the Stormtrooper for Darth Vader, Cool.
I have an 2011 Molten Orange Raptor, super cab, loaded. Full stainless works exhaust, headers to the dual tail pipes. No V 6 Raptor sounds like mine. Pro tuned, BFG Radial KO 2-35s on bead lock rims, K&N CAI, numerous bolt ons too. You can keep the new ones, I get compliments on mine every single time I take it out. To each their own.
"Didn;t have push button start......" And that gentlemen is why a truck runs $80k. Cant run chains on them, but it does have a button SMH
My Dad's 1951 Oldsmobile had pushbutton start... just a gimmick nowadays...
Nobody:
Raptor owner: my wife
🤣👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I know dude, for a truck guy, sounds pretty whipped 💄
Where's my push to start 😂
Andrei had to interview her, no offense.
The Raptor will remain the most iconic 4X4 to come out of the 2010s
And remember, the power rating eventually went to 415HP. Ford decided to go off of 93 rating vs the 91 octane rating. It was like 408 for 87 octane. 411 with 91 octane. 415 with 93 octane.
Oh and I love my 13’ Tuxedo Black Raptor. Gets compliments all the time.
I’m waiting for the all new raptor! Bring the V8 back!
still a v6.
@@actontreadway1168 there will be 2 engines available bro
Matthews still a v6 and v7.
@@actontreadway1168 v7?
@@actontreadway1168 v6 ecoboost and the GT500 V8
15-20% financial loss after one year of ownership is massive for that 2019. The dealership is going to turn around and sell that truck for just under 70, I guarantee it.
Ntronic X yup, plus what was already paid on it in tax, interest and fees etc.
I mean, that's what a dealership does, buys your car for less than its actual value so they can make a decent profit off of it. He could have easily made back a lot more of his money if he sold it himself, but clearly he didn't want the hassle.
I wonder what Dave Ramsey would have to say.
Dave drives a Raptor.
Dave Ramsey, financial plans for the poor.
Abhishek Patel yeah but Dave bought his in cash, and it was only a 1st gen used. Bet the guy in the vid financed the crap outta that gen 2.
@kevin, you are right. He is also a millionaire so he isn't spending as much of his income on a car like this one. For normal people he would definitely advise against this type of purchase.
The fact that Dave Ramsey bought a new $70K raptor should tell you all you need to know about the advice he gives (most of it is shear hypocrisy).
I did the same thing! Sold my black Gen 2 for a white 2014 Gen1. The Gen 2 has beautiful amenities and features but does NOT have the engine sound of the V8 Gen 1.
Love my 2014.
A used raptor is such a risky purchase, but this man has a deep wallet so I’m sure he’ll be fine
I'm looking at one now. If you get a proper inspection there's not much you can't get figured out
Why? cuz of one RUclips video of a guy jumping it?
No he's right. Buying a used vehicle always a risk. But a raptor is one of those special used that's a double edge sword. Like a JDM legend skyline/Supra. Or a cobra Stang, evo's they're previous life is everything. They're either really really good or really bad. A raptor is alot less likely to be abused but if it was it could be very bad towards repairs.
@@benwilliams9172 I purchased my 2013 raptor roush a couple of years ago and it's been nothing but fun . If possible try to purchase a one owner truck . And try to go for an unmolested one as well
@@chargercaddy Thanks so much haha I'll try
I’ll tell ya this here in Ohio for some reason the older raptors hold their values like gold. Even with 70-80-100k miles. Really solid trucks
Big Beef89 It’s the V8. That TT V6 sounds pitiful in comparison.
Yup. No raptor around me for less than 30k
Amazingly enough I did the SAME thing. I sold my 2017 Raptor for a 6.2L SVT Raptor Gen 1. Better sound, and I prefer a V8.
Is there anything i can do to my 2014 raptor to make it sound better without spending money? straight pipe it?
That old Raptor simply doesn’t look as good as the new one.
your crazy, first gen raptor way better look,
I agree the second gen looks way better!
2nd gen looks wise is far superior
@@7906jen His crazy what?
angela anderson okay, I get the Gen1 is more of an off-roader with a proper V8 power plant vs the sports car HO EconomyBoost Turbo engine but how do you account for the more advanced Fox shocks and chassis improvements over the old?
But like I mentioned, the Gen2 looks better... period.
2 things wrong with the current raptor. The price and no V8. Other then that its awesome.
The fact that the current Raptor doesn’t have a V8 is no handicap at all. That High Output EcoBoost (450 HP, 510 LB-FT) blows the old V8 out of the water.
John Pifer until you get in the hot sand desert and that farting ECO engine will lose more than half of the HP.
@@johnmpifer it sounds pussy though. A V6 will NEVER sound like a V8
@@mahdistasalman571 The N/A V8 loses near half it's horse power up in CO all the time. You don't even need to wait for it to overheat.
Tyler McLean nah mate I have owned several cars and used them in a harsh environment, boosted engines lose huge amount of power when it’s over 100F. I didn’t jump into this statement without being through this experience.
"I love to mod my vehicles!" So tell me what you did to this one.?. "I put some lights and an applique on it."
He said he didnt want to get too deep into modding the new one and thats why he bought the 1st gen with bigger plans in mind
I still don’t get this move. But to each their own.
If you've never owned a high horsepower V8 (I have and do), you'll never understand
FirebirdCamaro1220 actually i have and i still dont understand
I had an Expedition with the twin turbo Ecoboost. I hated it. Too much lag, strong mid, then falls on its face in high RPM.
Don't think he could continue to afford the new one.
FirebirdCamaro1220 The Gen1 motor (entry level superduty SOHC 6.2) couldn’t be anything farther from a “hIgH hOrSePoWeR” V8... 😆😂
If you were ever wondering who the heck is shelling 70k for a pure joy ride truck this video gives a pretty good idea. And I thought ( clearly wrongly) that skiing is an expensive hobby!
Skiing has to be the most expensive SPORT though 😂
@@trentopinto5 Even if you don't consider racing a sport (wtf), you still are not even close. Hockey is amazingly expensive.
Just the catching glove alone for a goalie can be over $500. That's a factory glove too. Now add in ice time, league fees, and the rest of the gear... easily can fall into the "wow, that's way too much" category.
@@codeman99-dev I agree. This is coming from a winger…
Approaching this decision from a collectors view point, the gen 1 might well be your best bet.
Thank you Andre and team for the taking the time! If anyone has questions happy to help answer best to my ability.
Who’s joe
I’m in Colorado and looking for a 1st gen and never saw this on Craigslist and I look several times a day! Don’t want to pay that much though
Congrats on the Gen1!
Another thing that sets apart the SE's from others: different colored beauty rings on the beadlock rims. It's a fairly common mod for us non-SE owners to get the beauty rings powdercoated.
Do you think you'll be able to swap that 3rd brake light over from a Gen2 to a Gen1?
And .... between 0 and 5: how many seconds did it take you to dump that hideous tonneau cover? :)
mxer b yah found it a couple weeks ago, found it a couple days after he posted it
Robert Glastra whoa I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info. I have already looked into selling it... I’m doing a family road trip soon but that thing is on the market as soon as I get back
I think...i saw the spare tire on the old v8 Raptor moving...kinda loose !
I thought I saw that too! Going to check it out asap, thanks for catching that
Ditto!
@@justindupuis5327 It looks like the it's loose on the new one too. I see it moving around when they're recording the exhaust sounds.
Darn, commented on it myself before I realized someone else already did.
69 Bronco guy! Thank you! First round of mods incoming next month.
I 100% agree with you. Unless you live 1000 feet above sea level, there is no reason for the twin-turbo. In the South, unless you live is Asheville, NC, you do not need a turbo. I hate to say this, but I bet the V8s are going to skyrocket in value. Just when I wanted to buy one.....:( I would repaint the Gen 1st to white.
Absolutely love the sound of that V8! Just proves to me that “Progress” is not always a good thing, these fancy new turbocharged V6’s have power, but they lack soul. I am sure Ford has their own definition of TFL now, “Tough F’n Luck” if you want a V8, here is a roid raging squirrel in a spinning wheel.
Haven't driven the new one then, huh? very few miss the V8 after driving the gen2. my stock 2017 is faster than my friends supercharged Gen 1 on and off road (I have videos to prove it).
@@T4nkcommander Then there's something wrong with your buddy's truck. Stock the new ones only make 30 whp more than the old ones. And with a Whipple the old ones make 120-150 whp more than the new ones with a tune. It's not even close.
Also reliability goes down with a turbo set up
@@NYCnMiami Torque is much more important in these trucks. 510 to 450....
In addition, you forget power to weight ratio. Gen 2 is aluminum. I'm 700lb lighter without accounting for the dual spares he runs.
blucollardad we have a 2019 Bullitt, the 5.0 in it sounds amazing and has waaaayy more than enough umph to get you into trouble quick! Love that 5.0. Turbochargers are for diesels and airplanes!
Drove the 2019 and it was wicked. BUT, I totally agree here. The V8 is more desirable. Naturally aspirated is desired for me.
I have the first gen raptor, what makes NA more desirable? Its a great truck but you can just feel it gargle gasoline, especially on a cold start Lol. With forced induction you gain a bit of efficiency with the higher compression ratio, and still have the power when you need it.
I've owned both.. the gen 2 is vastly superior so this move makes zero actual sense.
Honestly they both kinda suck in quality dept. But there really is no compititon
Zero you say? Reliability of Gen 1 is better. There you go!
A V8 is better engine for this kind of truck lol. Gen 1 is going outlast gen 2
I'm getting rid of my Gen II with 802A as fast as I can order a new TRX and I will happily keep my 2014 SVT Raptor
He never owned a truck so i guess he doesn't understand
The most amazing this about this is that Gen 1 costing 30K with only 70k miles on it. Balderdash! Every gen 1 I’ve seen for that price has at least 120k miles on it lmao
I see models with 130k miles listed at $37-$42k
Man what a hard decision to make but I can respect the reasons behind it. It’s funny though, it’s like he is saying I traded my 2019 in to get this beater to go mudding. 🤣
rickholloway1000 not much mud in Colorado. Raptor as a trail truck in the Rocky Mountains doesn’t make much sense
@@ashergreenfield4180 what do you recommend for CO?
@@actontreadway1168 for a trail rig? Jeep Wrangler TJ. Older tacoma. Older land cruiser. I’ve got a 3rd gen tacoma TRD off road. It gets the job done, but I’d say that width is as wide as you want for our trails. Raptor is too wide for most trails.
@@ashergreenfield4180 k, great. I have a jl so that’ll probably do.
Lol so he can't afford to upgrade it... that's the reason why he is selling. I just saved viewers 17 minutes
He threw away a shyt ton of money on the trade in.
Mist stealerships take 40% off the first year
That guy deserves a Darwin Award.
Unbelievable.
Longevity of the turbo v6 is going to be less than the v8. Also, in the long run, the v8 will be less expensive to maintain and repair.
People say this, but that doesn’t make it true. My friend’s 2016 5.0 with 35k consumes more oil than my 2016 2.7 with 37k.
The V-8s with cylinder deactivation are complicated and not reliable at all. I would never buy a GM or RAM V-8 with those systems. The turbos are proven technology and less complicated.
So, I like the way Ford is building trucks. The coyote is definitely the best of the V8s right now, but I like my eco boost better than any V8 I’ve owned.
Absolutely not true lol the eco boost v6 is built unfucking real strong the 6.2 is relatively weak with a tight ring gap so if boost is ever added it pops quick. It’s amazing how uneducated your comment was.
It's hilarious how people think the EcoBoost have more moving parts and will be less reliable. Turbochargers have one moving part, so once you take away two Pistons their valves and other components I'm pretty sure you'll end up with less moving parts🤔
@@billdauterive246 a framing hammer has proven itself to be very reliable over the years, but for some reason the roofers across the street are using cordless air nailers. Man are they going to regret that purchase 🤣
Scott Cravens
Not true. The 6.2 V8 is a stronger package than the EcoBoost. You are comparing a light duty passenger vehicle engine to a 3/4 ton duty truck engine here. 6.2 is a big bore cast iron block with cross bolted mains in a naturally aspirated setup. The EcoBoost or any half ton motor for that matter isn’t running with the 6.2 on longevity. The 6.2s are overbuilt for their purpose and Ford built them to work hard.
I have both Trucks in super cab configuration. I prefer the Gen2! They are completely different trucks! The Gen 2 is way more fun off roading, the Gen 1 is more fun on the streets.
Yeah, a stock Gen 2 has won RaptorX two years in a row against some really built Gen 1s. I used to struggle to think how Ford would improve on the Gen 1, but now that I got a Gen 2 it is hard to look back
Love everything about the new raptor but the exhaust sound :( kudos to ford though for being way out in front of the game 10 years ago. Here we are in 2020 and still no real competition from ram and GM
Yeah, cant stand the exhaust sound. Sounds like an old Toyota Tacoma with the 3.4. Love the Tacoma's but was never a fan of how they sound with an aftermarket exhaust. I cant get past the exhaust note on the raptor. I know you can change exhaust but that will only make it louder. Everytime I see one I think to myself that is a bad ass looking truck, then the guy takes off and I'm so disappointed in the exhaust note. Love the volume, just hate the note.
rochab77 totally agree with you. Baddest truck on market but man the exhaust note is cringe worthy. And this is not me hating on the Engine as it’s powerful and torquey
@behexen250 LOL I got three friends with over 100k, (and at least 20% hard offroad miles) without any issues.
well, the guy that tuned his to the limit blew the engine. but the stock trucks have no problems.
@R J Perhaps he works in the service department and is not speaking officially for Ford.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix agreed. Glad I'm back in a V8 again, a V6 will never sound like a V8, even if it makes more power. I've heard some V10's and V12's that have V8 type exhaust sound though
I won’t buy a new raptor because I don’t want the ecoboost. I wish the new gen had the 5.0 even if it isn’t as fast or powerful.
Screw it put the 7.3 turbocharged
The raptor is built for speed, and thats what the Ecoboost gives it. You shouldnt own a fast truck like the raptor anyway.
@R J Why the gas powered light duty trucks for hotshot fleet? Also Sounds like the stretching timing chain and/or cam phasers is an all too common problem and its no simple repair. Ive done it on my 2013 ecoboost because it had the stretched chain rattle.
@R J Gocha. Hearing the word Hotshot, a dually with a long flatbed or car hauler comes to mind as opposed to last mile haul or express delivery...I've been looking at the newer ecoboosts with the 10speed lately, mainly for the efficiency aspect of light duty trucks
@@baronvolkov6172 eco boost efficiency? Yea ford owners stopped lying about that years ago.
I love bed rugs. I think it’s the best way to go to protect your truck bed
Both nice rides. I agree, if you want to modify and run it hard its better to do it on the cheap side. Even though 33 large isn't cheap. Great content, love the channel and these segments.
I love the sound of a v8, but the newer Raptor is such an improvement. Besides my wife would appreciate the quite of the v6. With the turbo I certainly would not be short on power.
No way in hell I’d trade my 2020 for a gen 1. Don’t care how shitty it sounds. And I came from a V8.
He has money to piss away
@@firebry23 Yeah. He kept saying it was a financial decision.
I think he wants to mod the truck a lot. And doing so to the new truck would actually cause it to LOOSE value. Which is true.
The older one makes more sense to do major mods and not worry about a $70k truck.
I love my 3.5 EB Platinum F-150
I love V8 sound and these don't sound good.
So it will be the first one I don't make loud. Lol
I might remove the cats tho.
It's a V6, that should never be in a truck. Especially a ford Raptor, no one buys it for fuel economy.
kyle g why is it everyone thinks a v6 won’t make power?? The Ford got is 647 hp with 80 percent the same engine as an F150 ecoboost. That’s just old school thinking man. Europeans been doing in for years. I’m buying a gen2 raptor for fuel economy said no one ever.
theres no way id trade a gen 2 for a gen 1
He probably got in over his head or he really wants to experience the Gen 1 to race.
Preference. Real men prefer the V8 while dudes who set down to tinkle settle for the six pack with blow dryers strapped to it lol.
@@tomboy1875 that v6 with the snails attached to it can take out a lot of v8s. ;)
@@tomboy1875 youre probably the coolest dude at the party
Tomboy187 spot on!
No replacement for displacement!! I wish Ford would remember that! Offer the twin turbo's, but a V8 has to be in the line up!!
I think they should make a small ecpboost v8 for the raptor, maybe 3.8-4.0 liters. It would sound much better, more power, and wouldn't be under boost as much, which would help fuel economy because turbo engines have to run rich under boost to avoid pre-detonation. A small v8 would be nice. Keep the 2.7 as a base, offer a twin turbo v8 as an option.
Except my stock 2017 is literally faster on and offroad against my buddies whippled 2014....
With the new Ram Rebel TRX coming, Ford may need to get ready to pull the supercharged 5.2L cross plane crank V8 from the Mustang GT500, in to the Raptor.
@@swamprobin3291 Which would make it worse, because a lighter front end with more torque is much better.
The TRX is going to be anemic offroad and cost over $100k. It will pull on the road I suppose tho.
your comment has nothing to do with the video
I’m not a truck guy, or an American car brand guy, or a Ford guy, but I really do like the Ford Raptor. They look sick.
raptor owner: i wana put king 3.0 shocks
tfl guy: yeah those fox 3.0 ar good
🤷🏼♀️💁🏼
Good Video Andre!!, This fellow is pretty much like me!, If you want to modify your truck, it does not make sense to purchace a brand new one. Makes sense to purchase 5-8 yeras old and do your modifications. Especially if you are replacing suspension, wheels, adding more power....
The New Raptor setup is sweet! I prefer the 6.2 V8!!
Not going to lie. I love the new raptor, but the original sounds amazing. Would love to see a supercharged coyote
My brother in law has a new Raptor, and it sounds like a '96 Pontiac Grand Am 🤣
So in other words....awesome? (lol!)
@@anthonyc1883 maybe he means it sounds trash? 🤣
@@DRose2Fast awesome trash lol
This dude must have the coolest wife in the world, or hes pretty damn rich.
...or both...
ikr? wife points out a cool decal to net him some more hp.
This was a dam well done review. Thanks
Great review. Smart owner. Spending a lot on his toys. I understand. At 64, I've had 49 vehicles. I love cars, trucks and driving.
HEY FORD WE WANT A V8....Not a lawnmower sound...Even my wife who doesn’t care about anything vehicles says the new Raptor sounds horrible doesn’t match the look of the truck
I'd rather have a lawnmower sound looking at your v8 through my rear view mirror as you're getting SMOKED. 😎🤗
@@myrongaines5542 I'm pretty sure you could mod the V8 to make more power and still have money left for other stuff but I guess someone like you would rather buy a fast car than build one 😉
Well, they finally listened to their buyers and brought back a big block 7.3 V8....maybe one day the Raptor will once again get the V8 it deserves...
All aluminum 7.3!
jldude84 I believe they are going electric on the F-150. One day you will see a hybrid and the exhaust will sound like “weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” as it zips down the interstate.
As a gen 1 modified raptor owner I must say, I prefer the naturally aspirated engine for prerunning the Baja penninsula.
Been liking the at home editions but I missed you guys actually interviewing people, goes more in depth and it’s fun with you guys picking people brain
I'll take old any day. It's rawer. I don't care about 0-60. Im a patient man
I was always a V8 guy but the twin T V6....lawd jesus!
The new Raptor looks and IS vastly better and lighter than the old one, but because Ford in their stupidity decided to use an Ecoboost instead of a good tuned, supercharged Coyote like it deserved, I can't blame this guy at all.
Great video. Appreciate the full disclosure. 33 for the Gen 1 near OEM, miles and condition is fair. Congrats.
I would want to supercharge the v8 and have a good time.
Most impressive thing I took from video....
Kept mentioning star wars "storm trooper" reference and stated he has a wife! 🤔
Hahahahaaa. Poor lady
Yeah I added this NOS sticker in the back, supposed to give me extra 25 hp, and then see this tint, its custom they had to fit it, oh and I also added tire gloss. You can't have a Raptor without some custom tire gloss...
Must be nice to have enough money to buy a brand new truck and mod it only to trade it one year later.
I don't think he modded it too heavily. And he sold it to buy a cheaper used one so he could modify it.
Duude got creamed on that swap guaranteed
Without a doubt.
Every time I see a new Raptor I think it looks cool - but then I hear the V6 and it’s a total let down. Sounds like a Toyota Camry. I don’t care how fast it is a V6 is the wrong engine for a truck. Put a Coyote in there.
R J amen
R J I’ve driven 2 of them. One a 2015 f-150 and a 2018 raptor. I don’t like them, noise isn’t there, honestly the performance is overrated, and I don’t trust twin turbos on a V6 platform. And I also don’t like how there transmissions are tuned to shift, hunt too much. No one I know has had good luck with ford, including me. I bought a 2016 Ford Explorer limited 3.5, absolute pile. Thank god it was under warranty because the recalls and time in the shop amounted to more than I drove it. Never again will I buy another ford product. Not because I hate them for no reason, but I don’t trust them anymore.
7.3
@@braddenr.4778 The 6.2 in my raptor has proven to be reliable with over 5 years of trouble free use, and its my work truck.
Baron Volkov oh absolutely, the 6.2 is one of my favorite ford engines. Almost the perfect V8, plentiful power and torque, smooth and most importantly they’re dead reliable. I take back what I said, I would purchase a 2011-2014 F-250. They pull good and sound good. Ford definitely did something right with that one. I just do not wanna touch any of their ecoboost V6’s at all. Had too much trouble and heard a lot of horror stories. How do you like that raptor? I’ve thought of getting me one down the road.
Great video, but saying it.s ok losing 10 thousand dollars after 1 year when selling a truck it.s not really so.
Compared to other new vehicles that is exceptional. Raptors hold their value better than pretty much any other truck out there.
@@DSM907Maniak not really
It doesn't really matter when you make bank bro
What vehicle doesn't lose at least 10 grand in the first year when trading into a dealer. Most lose 10 grand the moment you sign the papers.
@@WhoThisGuy515 tacoma
Gen 1 for life.
The V8 Raptor sounds so good.
I had a twin turbo EcoBoost Expedition for about a month. A absolutly hated it. When you smash the gas, there would be a 1 to 2 secong period 9of downshifting and building boost. The midrange power would come in super strong and was actually impressive. Then if would fall flat on it's face in the upper RPM range. It also started to smoke at idle while I had it, presumably from premature turbo seal leakage. This was a low milage truck too.
I traded in my 14 Raptor for a 2017 F-150 supercharged Roush. I liked the Raptor but it had its flaws...
1. It made alot of noise but was kinda slow.
2. The shocks are no good in cold weather and shit the bed even though the truck never seen dirt and cost a small fortune to replace.
3. Alot of wind noise inside the cab going down the highway.
4. It had the famous Raptor whine during start-up in cold weather (steering pump issue) that should have been a re-call along with the fuse #27 issue. Not too sure why Ford never addressed these two issues?!
This guy likes losing the depreciation on new vehicles...more power to em though.
Some people dont want to ride in other people's farts and inherit their bad maintenance to save a few $$
Raptors have relatively low depreciation, so he may have not lost much.
Basically he lost a $1,000 a month on depreciation. Add that to his I guess $800 a month payment pretty expensive monthly cost. But he loves his truck.
@John John whats the crying about "personal finances"? Its simple numbers, doesnt matter who's numbers they are, numbers dont lie. If a guy cant afford to throw a bunch of money at modding a 70k truck and decides to downgrade and mod an older one, great thats his choice, but its damn obvious that such choice was made with personal finances in consideration. I'll take it a step further and would argue that if you cant buy a car/truck outright, you have no business buying it. Financing vehicles is a link in the slave chain which keeps the middle class poor in America.
@John John You got me John John. I lumped him in with the typical new car buyer.
The new raptor looks great but after hearing one take off from Walmart it just sounds so disappointing with the v6
Taking off from Walmart, lol
Yeah, once you've enjoyed a good V8 exhaust note, you can't go back (or if you do, like I had to at one point, you'll be back to a V8 when you can, like I am once again)
That custom 3rd brake light isn't cheap, but it's amazing. Really great episode :)
Love my Gen 1 raptor. Great to see the comparison. BTW, the spare tire on the gen1 is lose. Could see it when doing the exhaust comparison. Might want to tighten that up. (mine come lose from time to time)
Sounds like someone couldn't afford the new one and doesn't want to admit it. So he downgraded.
Gen 2 looks far better in my opinion. More "robust" looking. And I can appreciate that the V6 makes as much power ad it does. And with some exhaust mods you can make it sound mean. But you just can't beat the V8.
What kind of "man" goes on camera with shants (too long to be shorts, too short to be pants) and flip-flops on?
Very comprehensive overview of the process on both trucks. The only thing I’m curious to know from the owner is are there any plans to address the front end difference? Speaking strictly aesthetically the Gen 2 front looks so much better than the Gen 1.
So they are standing within 1 foot of each other but can’t shake hands?! Lol
I have a 2019 White Raptor , before owned a 2006 Siverado, The raptor new Gen is something special just out of this world , my friend had a older v8 Raptor we raced not even close that eco boost v6 twin turbo is a beast.
Nice review! If we could only have the original V8 in the 2015 package that would be an ideal. Although Gen 2 has plenty of soul as well.
Like trading in an MP3 player for a Cassette player...
Ok...
Hell yeah special edition raptor all day 🔥
Ford could have avoided a lot of bullcrap if they would have just included an optional V8 for the new Raptor. Any time I've ever heard anyone talk about the new generation the V8 always comes up. That was sheer stupidity on the blue ovals part.
Raptors rule. So love this truck. 2nd gen looks better but the V8 1st gen sounds great
U cant live with your own failure where did that bring you back to me (gen 1)
@o_ o the real “fail” is your spelling of failure
chaosseat over here officer, that’s him, that’s the murderer
JH5076 , nice brain fart....
I had both not everyone can afford a high payment good excuse I like old more I have new v6 tuned to 580 on wheels and 643 torque I hope this guy doesn’t run into me I’ll make him wish he kept his v6. Also looks way nicer and never broke down ever with 32k miles on the odo as of today I have 2017
The Raptor cost 70k and you sold it for 60k to the dealer WOW 😯 i’m impressed
Right, now thats an accomplishment that demands respect Lol
Yea you’ll be surprised these raptors are still in high demand that’s why
Doesn't include the tax title and reg he paid. Ultimately he lost 10k from the truck alone but an additional 12k+ on fees and more on the 2014 replacement. Clearly he can afford it but still. His argument is its more cost effective to have the old when he just shelled out 30k in depreciation and fees. Wish I could afford that ignorance lol
Andre, I could tell you really wanted to shake his hand. I’m right there with you. It feels so weird and unnatural not to shake someone’s hand. But someday soon! Great video; love your enthusiasm you have for all things truck! Keep up the good work!
Could't agree more with this decision! I've got a 2012 Raptor and put 145k miles on it thus far, driving all over the USA. Nothing like the sound of that V8! Once this baby hits 250k miles on the odometer I only see two acceptable options as upgrades/replacements: MegaRaptor or BA350!!
Personally I think Ford made a mistake not having a V8 in the new generation. Likely turned off a bunch of buyers.
Yet they still sell tons of them.
Realistically it probably only turned off the people who weren't going to buy one anyway.
jmanlinc exactly, that and chevy fans.
it did not turn people off, just gave the people that can not afford it a reason to say why they do not have one
I don’t own a Raptor but I do own 2011 Lariat Limited that has the same engine as the 1st gen Raptors. I like to tell people that my Raptor is wearing a tuxedo! You know, there are certain cars/trucks that just should not be messed with and Ford did this to these 2 icons by getting rid of the V8 in favor of V6s and these 2 vehicles I am speaking of are the GT(40) and the Raptor…now, I know there are others but these 2 jumped right to the forefront. If the same engineering went into the V8s as Ford did with the V6s then I feel Ford would have kept the V8.
He likes fast off roading, so he goes for the slower raptor with less advanced suspension and known problems with the frames bending.
Logic. To be fair, only the 2010 and 2011 models had the regular f150 frames. It got reinforced in 2012, so he should be good.
He also said Raptor Assault was impressive, so 'fast' is 30-40mph to him.
I'm concerned that they are still having VVT (cam phaser) problems. The v-6 is starting to show signs of problems. I was a long time Ford customer who had catastrophic failure of the 5.4 liter 3-valve. Eating a $7,000 repair was not good, plus dealing with a Ford lawyer and customer service was not good.
The way the money lost on the v6 truck was described is kind of misleading. Saying he paid about 70k and is being given 60k sounds like he lost 10k but there are other factors. If he financed it then the first year he really did not pay down the principle on the truck much and most of the payment went to pay interest so he most likely still owes close to 70k. He already paid sales tax on the 70k vehicle and now has to pay tax again on the 30k vehicle. Expensive lesson learned.
Thanks Andre, for raising the value of the Gen 1 more than it is! Lol Been looking to get one!
tell the owner to give the spare wheel on the gen 1a tightening, the wheel looked like it was moving around under the bed when he hopped in..