To boink in a bed where your good friend is literally right next to you and who also happens to be virgin…… totally uncool and disrespectful. And to just insult OP about her being a virgin is disgusting behavior. The audacity to claim OP is wrong or overreacting is so childish and idiotic
To me it kind of feels as SA... She was unwillingly "participating" in the act, since they probably even had the "risk of getting caught" kink going on... I would feel violated...
story 2: my smart mouth would force me to say something mean, like "you're not doing it right" "you both seem very bad at this" and worse, you don't interrupt my sleep lol
Story 2 is disgusting friends shouldn't see you naked and fucking in the bed they're trying to sleep in what the hell. 😭 And they did it without consent yo get better friends. People have no shame.
I have worked in mental health at one point for over 18 years. I have worked with high acuity patients and also forensic patients (so therefore, the extremely sick and also some who were there from prison). Having worked in this environment for all of that time gives me a different perspective on certain things. Having sex, especially in the same bed as someone who is trying to sleep, could be viewed as sexual assault. Unless you have been in that person shoes, you do not know what they have had to deal with in their lives. This may seem like an innocent thing, especially in college, however, you are forcing someone to be in the same room with you, as you are committing a sexual act. For some people who have been sexually abused or who have witnessed sexual deviation in their lives, this could be a triggering act. This is not a popular stance, but it is not meant to be. It is simply the truth from what I have seen in my 18 years in the mental health field.
Agree, if there is like an unspoken agreement like it seems Sam had with the roommates, it's ok, but if it is in the SAME bed, with no warning or consent... It's definitely a form of sexual abuse
I automatically thought along these same lines. No consent, no knowledge even and considering the deviancy in the act, it def seems to have potential to be sexual assault or harassment. Especially when you include her childhood trauma… and all her “friends” being in on it. They all just kicked her trauma up magnitudes. Poor girl.
7:03 OP did say that her friends went into "extreme detail" about their sex life... And when she repeated "it was sickeningly detailed," it sounds like they actually went into detail... Also, doesn't help that there were multiple corroborations and Josh almost punched a wall b/c he was ganged up on... *None* of them sound very stable or reliable tbh...
I mean, I can kinda see why Josh would punch a wall, he was ganged up on, knew he was innocent but had no way to prove it and couldn't convince her when it was his words against multiple other people's words. Was it a good move? No. Can you expect people to always have the perfect reaction when put in an impossible situation? Also no.
31:26 - that is just disgusting. I've had my share of daliances but I would never have considered making someone unwittingly part of my fantasy AND disrespecting them like that. Then the entire friend group trying to gaslight OP into feeling like she's being a prude? Throw the entire friend group away!
I would consider that SA. Maybe they didnt touch you but to use you as a tool and do that right beside you without your consent has to be SA of some sort.
It's true that you pick right back up again. My fiance and i have been together THIS TIME for ten years. But before that we had dated for a year and then had split for about a year. Than my mom and i drove past him on the way to a birthday party, he saw me and i saw him and i didn't think anything of it ... Til he messaged me later that night, came over to my apartment after he got out of work, and had never left, now here we are a whole decade, a baby, and a life later...
Truly he should have gone to jail for that among other things, but fortunately he did end up spending time in jail after that for unrelated crimes. Twas so long ago, and knowing what I know now, I’d have handled that whole relationship differently. But I’ve learned and grown since then and am in a much better place ❤
Even before you guys said that it was a kink, i knew it was. And thats just plain wrong. Its not like they shared a room permanently and had no other choice and were trying to be quiet. They only had to abstain for a short period of time, or, just wait for a time when OP wasn't in the room. But not only did they wait until she was asleep in the bed but they did it purposefully loud and aggressively to wake her. Thats sick and twisted. As someone who has been sexually assaulted in my life, this would be incredibly traumatic and would open up old wounds.
My ex n i had spicy sleep in the same room as another couple... it was all a consensual interaction in the room. Me with my ex n our 2 friends together there wasn't any partner swap. I feel you'd need to have a consent situation if you are or aren't ok with others spicy sleeping in the same room/ bed that you're occupying. The op is NTA
my rule for tipping when picking up is I don’t tip if I spend the gas and time to go pick it up and have to go inside to get it UNLESS I’m a regular- like if I go to the same taco shop everyday weather it’s drive thru or pick up inside I’ll tip because I’m there every single day lol or at least more than half the time
Story 2: I was on a house-boating trip. I was the only single pringle, I forgot to prepare lol, but my bunk mates (bed bunks) lent me their expensive headphones for the night 😂……. but they slipped off!!! 💀 They woke up and found me sleeping with my hands holding the headphones tight to my head 😂😂😂 They were both like, “Oh shit! LOL” Man, we laughed so hard about it. Her face was so red! 😂😂😂
Damn, kudos to your buddies for getting your consent and lending you the headphones. Even if you all were in different beds, respect is respect. Period! 👍
Eww gross 🤢 that’s messed up Wtfh do they think they are doing this next to her and all of them in on it despicable behavior are you sure it’s not a crime to press charges
You don’t always have to prove financial hardship as a result of defamation in order to win. There are some lies that, by their nature, are considered egregious enough on their own to qualify for damages. This is known as defamation per se. Examples include: Falsely stating someone has committed a crime False statements that someone has certain diseases False statements regarding a woman’s unchasteness Etc. You only have to prove damages in a defamation per quod case.
I tip the people who get my order together because they aren't making any money to do that. Maybe not in states where they make more than minimum wage, but in states where they make $2.24 an hour, yep! They don't necessarily have to get your order together because people don't normally tip to-gos, but if everything in my order is there and they took the time and care for an order they know they most likely won't get tipped for, yeah, I'll tip 15%.
Riley triggered my Siri 😂 she doesn’t often respond for me, but she liked his voice. Thankfully it didn’t hear the rest of his sentence and start looking it up.
41:12 Tao in Hollywood at Dream Hotel on Selma & Cahuenga. It’s an upscale Asian restaurant. Same as Tao at Venetian in Vegas but without the nightclub. It’s a cool place, def recommend checking it out but be prepared to drop more than usual for a dinner night. I’m talking $100+ per person, much more if you’re planning on the alcohol flowing. Worth the experience though cuz the interior is a whole ass vibe and what is known for.
44:28 yeah the whole tipping shit has gone way far these days in America. However When I go to pick up food from a sit down type restaurant or a pizza shop if I have enough money I do still leave a tip even if I’m just picking the food up.
I think a lot of states with a 16 yo age of consent there’s a limit to how old the other person can be. I think it’s like that because otherwise an 18yo could go to jail for being with their 17yo girlfriend/boyfriend
I am horrified that in my state, Massachusetts, the age of consent is 16yo! I had NO idea. That explains why when I was 14-15, all we ever heard was “15’ll get you 30” but didn’t after 16. YIKES!
although my spicy life is very limited (2 guys in 40 years) 1 was a friend who i slept with once before i met my now husband and with my husband however the moment i met him 3 months after we started dating online it was amazing and even now 9 years later with 2 beautiful children every time he "touches" me it feels like the first time...butterflies the whole shabang, if he was to talk about our "spicy" life i would not be offended as we talk about it all the time, so i dont understand why people get offended so much by someone asking/a partner talking about thier life its normal where i come from. plus we have a rule if the OTHER people are uncomftable talking/hearing about it we just dont talk about it in front of them out of respect.
43:03 seems to me like it’s a small business they’re working for so they def do not want to fire her and have to pay her unemployment. that’s why they want her to quit and probably why they made her step down from GM cuz it’s still less pay hourly for the business to have to pay her vs her collecting unemployment on a GM salary.
Doing the spicy sleep in the same bed where someone else is sleeping may not be illegal, but that's just wrong. Literally wrong on so many levels. They're lucky all she did was yell at them and slap them, she had every right to go nuclear on them both so much more than she did.
I would not be as nice if someone insulted me for being a virgin and told me that I'm not desrible for it I'd probably say at least I'm not a wh***. 🤷🏻♀️ I was also made fun of for waiting until I had something serious. I just didn't see the appeal of sleeping around or sleeping with someone right away in a new relationship.
In the state of Maine, 16 is the age of consent but you are still a minor therefore the parents can go after anybody that is over 18 that sleeps with their child. It basically says yes, you're 16, and you can sleep with anybody who is 17 and under without getting prosecuted. But once you turn 18 years old, that's no longer the case. Your parents are now in control of you And they can say you know what we don't consent to this. They're still a minor so therefore, they can put them in jail.
Honestly I feel like women talk more openly with others and each other about our sexual experiences than men do. Most men don’t talk to other women about that kind of thing.
My aunt had custody of me growing up from the age of 13-17 when I ran away. She used to always have sex in the same room and/or bed as me. I didn’t have my own room for a while so I slept in her room. Usually on the floor. For some reason she enjoyed doing it knowing I was right there. A child! Then when I would get upset she would tell me it was bc I was a whore and jealous. I was a child!!
To boink in a bed where your good friend is literally right next to you and who also happens to be virgin…… totally uncool and disrespectful. And to just insult OP about her being a virgin is disgusting behavior. The audacity to claim OP is wrong or overreacting is so childish and idiotic
To me it kind of feels as SA... She was unwillingly "participating" in the act, since they probably even had the "risk of getting caught" kink going on... I would feel violated...
@@ElaineWenzSaisse yeah this feels illegal in some way
The sleeping in the same bed group should be sued for sexual assault.
It definitely is...
story 2: my smart mouth would force me to say something mean, like "you're not doing it right" "you both seem very bad at this" and worse, you don't interrupt my sleep lol
That is one creepy friend group.
Story 2 is disgusting friends shouldn't see you naked and fucking in the bed they're trying to sleep in what the hell. 😭
And they did it without consent yo get better friends. People have no shame.
size 12 shoes means nothing, my ex and my hubby both wear size 12, believe me, they are different in EVERY other way lmao
Its a joke lol
Did Sam lose a fight with a hair dryer? BRO xD
I was thinking he wanted to be called peacock boy instead "pigeon boy" and this was his way of taking a stand...
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
For story two, why didn't the two people just share a bed!
Sam!!!! You gotta make a special episode titled "Golden Rules: Life, Love, Spicy Sleep and everything in between"
20$ that friend group all peaked in highschool.
I have worked in mental health at one point for over 18 years. I have worked with high acuity patients and also forensic patients (so therefore, the extremely sick and also some who were there from prison). Having worked in this environment for all of that time gives me a different perspective on certain things. Having sex, especially in the same bed as someone who is trying to sleep, could be viewed as sexual assault. Unless you have been in that person shoes, you do not know what they have had to deal with in their lives. This may seem like an innocent thing, especially in college, however, you are forcing someone to be in the same room with you, as you are committing a sexual act. For some people who have been sexually abused or who have witnessed sexual deviation in their lives, this could be a triggering act. This is not a popular stance, but it is not meant to be. It is simply the truth from what I have seen in my 18 years in the mental health field.
Agree, if there is like an unspoken agreement like it seems Sam had with the roommates, it's ok, but if it is in the SAME bed, with no warning or consent... It's definitely a form of sexual abuse
I automatically thought along these same lines. No consent, no knowledge even and considering the deviancy in the act, it def seems to have potential to be sexual assault or harassment. Especially when you include her childhood trauma… and all her “friends” being in on it. They all just kicked her trauma up magnitudes. Poor girl.
7:03 OP did say that her friends went into "extreme detail" about their sex life... And when she repeated "it was sickeningly detailed," it sounds like they actually went into detail... Also, doesn't help that there were multiple corroborations and Josh almost punched a wall b/c he was ganged up on... *None* of them sound very stable or reliable tbh...
No, I don't think they actually went into detail. They just claimed he did to gross her out ...
I mean, I can kinda see why Josh would punch a wall, he was ganged up on, knew he was innocent but had no way to prove it and couldn't convince her when it was his words against multiple other people's words. Was it a good move? No. Can you expect people to always have the perfect reaction when put in an impossible situation? Also no.
31:26 - that is just disgusting. I've had my share of daliances but I would never have considered making someone unwittingly part of my fantasy AND disrespecting them like that. Then the entire friend group trying to gaslight OP into feeling like she's being a prude? Throw the entire friend group away!
31:01 that's sexual assault!
I would consider that SA. Maybe they didnt touch you but to use you as a tool and do that right beside you without your consent has to be SA of some sort.
I listen to your videos everyday while I work, and for some reason Sophia looked so dang familiar she looks like Callie haverda from that 90s show.
You are SO right!
It's true that you pick right back up again. My fiance and i have been together THIS TIME for ten years. But before that we had dated for a year and then had split for about a year. Than my mom and i drove past him on the way to a birthday party, he saw me and i saw him and i didn't think anything of it ... Til he messaged me later that night, came over to my apartment after he got out of work, and had never left, now here we are a whole decade, a baby, and a life later...
Riley coming in for the mic drop 😂 such guy responses
not me drooling as soon as he said “I wouldn’t mind if shares it with her friends” 🤤🤤🤤
43:05 Employers will preferably NOT fire you and wait for you to quit in order to avoid paying unemployment
Thst caller story is not having sex thats stright up r**e he should be in jail. Yikes that poor girl and poor tiffy.
Truly he should have gone to jail for that among other things, but fortunately he did end up spending time in jail after that for unrelated crimes. Twas so long ago, and knowing what I know now, I’d have handled that whole relationship differently. But I’ve learned and grown since then and am in a much better place ❤
Lol Sam just likes waking people up early in the mornings, recent event being waking Sofia up for a hug at 8am
Even before you guys said that it was a kink, i knew it was. And thats just plain wrong.
Its not like they shared a room permanently and had no other choice and were trying to be quiet. They only had to abstain for a short period of time, or, just wait for a time when OP wasn't in the room. But not only did they wait until she was asleep in the bed but they did it purposefully loud and aggressively to wake her. Thats sick and twisted.
As someone who has been sexually assaulted in my life, this would be incredibly traumatic and would open up old wounds.
Spiffy Tiffy’s story was WILD
My ex n i had spicy sleep in the same room as another couple... it was all a consensual interaction in the room. Me with my ex n our 2 friends together there wasn't any partner swap. I feel you'd need to have a consent situation if you are or aren't ok with others spicy sleeping in the same room/ bed that you're occupying. The op is NTA
my rule for tipping when picking up is I don’t tip if I spend the gas and time to go pick it up and have to go inside to get it UNLESS I’m a regular- like if I go to the same taco shop everyday weather it’s drive thru or pick up inside I’ll tip because I’m there every single day lol or at least more than half the time
Story 2: I was on a house-boating trip. I was the only single pringle, I forgot to prepare lol, but my bunk mates (bed bunks) lent me their expensive headphones for the night 😂……. but they slipped off!!! 💀 They woke up and found me sleeping with my hands holding the headphones tight to my head 😂😂😂 They were both like, “Oh shit! LOL” Man, we laughed so hard about it. Her face was so red! 😂😂😂
Damn, kudos to your buddies for getting your consent and lending you the headphones. Even if you all were in different beds, respect is respect. Period! 👍
Eww gross 🤢 that’s messed up Wtfh do they think they are doing this next to her and all of them in on it despicable behavior are you sure it’s not a crime to press charges
That's got to be the first low lack lusher 'see you tomorrow' at the end.....
I lived in a triple my freshman year and one of my roommates was the WORST about spicy sleep in our room!
You don’t always have to prove financial hardship as a result of defamation in order to win. There are some lies that, by their nature, are considered egregious enough on their own to qualify for damages. This is known as defamation per se. Examples include:
Falsely stating someone has committed a crime
False statements that someone has certain diseases
False statements regarding a woman’s unchasteness
Etc.
You only have to prove damages in a defamation per quod case.
17:02 I like the way Morgan read this story better lmao
here to support small business... this is a joke nobody has time for that
I tip the people who get my order together because they aren't making any money to do that. Maybe not in states where they make more than minimum wage, but in states where they make $2.24 an hour, yep! They don't necessarily have to get your order together because people don't normally tip to-gos, but if everything in my order is there and they took the time and care for an order they know they most likely won't get tipped for, yeah, I'll tip 15%.
I think I already saw this video lol
It was on Smosh
I think actually not sure there’s one a lot like this one smosh
You might have been on the members only recording live stream?
@@noms3735and rslash
It was a live
Riley triggered my Siri 😂 she doesn’t often respond for me, but she liked his voice. Thankfully it didn’t hear the rest of his sentence and start looking it up.
Sam's hair is giving Edward Cullen wannabe boi from 2009
What if Josh is playing the Ted Bundy game and wants to make sure she’s back in love so he can leave her the same way she let him.
The next friend wants his turn that’s why he telling her!
16 is the age of consent in a lot of places. HOWEVER, in a state such as NC, you have to be within 4 years of age up until you’re at least 18
41:12 Tao in Hollywood at Dream Hotel on Selma & Cahuenga. It’s an upscale Asian restaurant. Same as Tao at Venetian in Vegas but without the nightclub. It’s a cool place, def recommend checking it out but be prepared to drop more than usual for a dinner night. I’m talking $100+ per person, much more if you’re planning on the alcohol flowing. Worth the experience though cuz the interior is a whole ass
vibe and what is known for.
My old roommate literally would call me an "oaf" (OF) model 🤣
44:28 yeah the whole tipping shit has gone way far these days in America. However When I go to pick up food from a sit down type restaurant or a pizza shop if I have enough money I do still leave a tip even if I’m just picking the food up.
my god 🔥🔥🔥🗑🗑🗑 friends 😂😂😂
2:04 Sam, we're gonna need more info about this ex gf pod... and the eps where she spoke about you... 👀😇
I’ve been to Tao’s in NYC!!! It’s SO delish
Sam looks really nice today!
I think a lot of states with a 16 yo age of consent there’s a limit to how old the other person can be. I think it’s like that because otherwise an 18yo could go to jail for being with their 17yo girlfriend/boyfriend
I am horrified that in my state, Massachusetts, the age of consent is 16yo! I had NO idea. That explains why when I was 14-15, all we ever heard was “15’ll get you 30” but didn’t after 16. YIKES!
They certainly was confident.
although my spicy life is very limited (2 guys in 40 years) 1 was a friend who i slept with once before i met my now husband and with my husband however the moment i met him 3 months after we started dating online it was amazing and even now 9 years later with 2 beautiful children every time he "touches" me it feels like the first time...butterflies the whole shabang, if he was to talk about our "spicy" life i would not be offended as we talk about it all the time, so i dont understand why people get offended so much by someone asking/a partner talking about thier life its normal where i come from. plus we have a rule if the OTHER people are uncomftable talking/hearing about it we just dont talk about it in front of them out of respect.
Age of consent in Oregon is 18.
43:03 seems to me like it’s a small business they’re working for so they def do not want to fire her and have to pay her unemployment. that’s why they want her to quit and probably why they made her step down from GM cuz it’s still less pay hourly for the business to have to pay her vs her collecting unemployment on a GM salary.
Doing the spicy sleep in the same bed where someone else is sleeping may not be illegal, but that's just wrong. Literally wrong on so many levels. They're lucky all she did was yell at them and slap them, she had every right to go nuclear on them both so much more than she did.
I would not be as nice if someone insulted me for being a virgin and told me that I'm not desrible for it I'd probably say at least I'm not a wh***. 🤷🏻♀️
I was also made fun of for waiting until I had something serious. I just didn't see the appeal of sleeping around or sleeping with someone right away in a new relationship.
Fun fact. In Minnesota the age of consent has stipulations. My friemd is a registered sx offe der because he was a teen who slept with his teen GF.
What’s the age gap?
@@chrixell2 years
In the state of Maine, 16 is the age of consent but you are still a minor therefore the parents can go after anybody that is over 18 that sleeps with their child. It basically says yes, you're 16, and you can sleep with anybody who is 17 and under without getting prosecuted. But once you turn 18 years old, that's no longer the case. Your parents are now in control of you And they can say you know what we don't consent to this. They're still a minor so therefore, they can put them in jail.
I'm bad with money x.x I'm getting better now, but I tend to spend money on art commissions
19:44 I had this happen and I was between TWINS 😮🤦🏼♀️
13:40 Awwww!😂💙😂💙
Honestly I feel like women talk more openly with others and each other about our sexual experiences than men do. Most men don’t talk to other women about that kind of thing.
If you think the age of consent is concerning, wait until you hear about the child marriage issue in the U.S.
🫣Ahh, it’s the other stream I got to call into!
Posted 6 minutes ago. I've never been this early!
Clicked within first 30 seconds!! Wohoo❤😂
I feel like in one way or another guys talk about their sex life. The way the 1st guy did just shows the immaturity
They were hoping she would join in... or at least enjoy the show.
This is driving me crazy. Are Sam and Sophia siblings?
Yes
Yes ! They have like a 3-4 year age difference
Is it really? Yes, they're siblings. Its been mention many many many many time.
@danielletrigueros1489 I usually get the shorter version on FB or IG. I have not heard them say this in the videos.
@@La_br00tal_mijathanks!
My aunt had custody of me growing up from the age of 13-17 when I ran away. She used to always have sex in the same room and/or bed as me. I didn’t have my own room for a while so I slept in her room. Usually on the floor. For some reason she enjoyed doing it knowing I was right there. A child! Then when I would get upset she would tell me it was bc I was a whore and jealous. I was a child!!
Jeez that’s a really s&@ty thing to do I’m sorry that happened to you
Aint no 25 yo named Nancy!
I haven’t gotten to that part yet so idk what exactly you’re talking about but I know a 25yo named Nancy 🤣
@@littlewitchgirl999 oops. Might be your Nancy lol
😂😂
Story 2 is SA in my opinion
I want able to comment until i closed youtube and had to reopen....
yea it's been weird for me too lately 😢
Tbh if you haven't had spicy sleep in front of bestfriend or vice versa are yall really bestfriends 😅 lol
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It’s so cringy when your podcast talk becomes explicit. A few jokes here and there are cool but yall become too much
You guys are saying corroborate wrong. please stop.