Can You Beat the Legend of Dragoon with ONLY SHANA?
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This is a solo run of the Legend of Dragoon PS4/PS5 re-release with Shana only. No Dart, no Lavitz, no Kongol, no Meru, no lavitz, no rose, no dragoon.
Challenge Rules (replace Shana with Miranda when applicable):
1. When Shana is allowed in the party, she must be in the party.
2. Only Shana can do damage to enemies. The only exception to this is if an enemy is mathematically unable to kill one of Shana's allies and the run command is disabled.
3. All buffs placed on Shana by other teammates must expire before she can act. She may, however, buff herself.
4. No dragoon form.
5. Shana may not do damage to any enemies while her allies are alive. This ensures that she is truly defeating all enemies alone, without any meat shields to help her.
6. When Shana is not able to be in the party, anything goes.
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➤ Haschel Analysis: • How GREAT is Haschel A...
➤ Rose Analysis: • Is Rose REALLY That Ba...
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What challenge do you want to see next?
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Only Lavitz! Love these challenges! Keep it up please 😀
Rose would be fun. Good at the start, rough at the end
KONGOL!!! 😂
This is why i said Shana is S tier in a normal game, she is literally the highest damage dealer in the game. Chances of her dying is low when you have party members soaking damage for her and supporting her. Most people don't use her cause she is weak in the first half of disk 1. But her damage grow exponentially after that especially when you start giving her good equips.
Imo the best team in the game is Dart/Shana/Meru. You'll be stealing turns in every battle, Shana does most of the damage and in huge burst, killing minor enemies and body parts real fast. Meru is for her speed and good physical damage cleaning up whatever little that remains. Dart is trash you have to use, so he is mostly a support role using buff and debuff items.
Dragoon mode is mostly useless once you get good with additions and attack item mashing.
I appreciate that even as old as this game is, there are content creators like you keeping it alive. Also, the editing is top tier as always. LOL!
Thank you!
I think it'd be hilarious to see the Meru run and giving every enemy in the game a good *_bonk_*
I want this game on the switch!!!
And Shiranda is my favorite character. Of course you were going to beat the game with her.
I cant wait to see Kongol. My favorite of the dragoons... hes definitely going into F.
Love all the LoD content, I think a LoD boss difficulty tier list could be interesting but whatever you decide to do I'll be here
LoD has always been near and dear to my heart. I've really been enjoying your LoD content and other challenges. Looking forward to the Kongol run, he was always constant in my party
I can only imagine how tedious the ending fight was. Might have actually broken me if I tried it.
My favorite challenge is as follows:
No item shops
No weapon shops
No defending
No repeat items
This challenge makes it actually exciting to find basic items and equipment such as potions and burn outs, and more or less forces you to use every party member so as to save on your now precious healing items. Repeat items can be discarded, so the item limit isn't as much of an issue as it usually is. Can optionally add "no inns / no grinding / starting equipment only" if you need more of a challenge. Would enjoy seeing an attempt at this some day, not sure how hard Faust would be though. Keep up the great work!
I'd watch this video for the soundtrack alone haha. I wanna see a Lavitz playthrough.
Darn Melba Sauce over here taking an eternity to die. Honestly the solo run I think will cause the most emotional damage is the Lavitz run. Having access to Rose Storm but not being able to use it sounds like it might transcend into causing physical pain.
Albert! Sick spearing vs no acknowledge of magic. Btw, the re-forestation of the desert is a subject worth discussing all night
Actually you can’t beat the game with just Shanna because Shanna leaves the team lol 😂
Facts
Lol pretty sure there are hacks for that little detail
Awesome looking forward too the rest of the solo plays
This is surprisingly a great series lol. The Rose tier makes me cry though 😢
I love that you threw final fantasy music in the background, it actually works really well!
Dart is stealing all of Shanas glory. What a chad 😂
Miranda is my favorite character. When I got this game as a kid I was struggling with Melbu Frama, but then I changed my character for Hachel and Miranda and DESTROYED him
Props for solving the Frugal 2nd fight though, I never woulda thought to get a total vanashing for his minions lol
Could’ve farmed a few more magical items from enemies on the moon, but maybe you could do that with Meru.
Whichever the next solo challenge run edit a Smoothie and Magazine on a downed Dart whenever he's in a boss fight to steal the final kill.
I guessed 2, so I actually felt a bit better after being lied to twice.
Haven't watched this yet. What a hilarious question. This will be fun.
I dunno why, Tantacles, but I love your videos so damn much despite me not being a fan of Legend of Dragoon. Your humor and voice are makes your playthroughs much more entertaining to watch than most other RUclipsrs.
Keept making those LoD videos, I'll never get tired of them!
Out of curiosity, what other rpgs do you play?
@@tantacles
-Most Finantasy, with my favorites being 5,6,9, Tactics A2 and World of Final Fantasy
-Pokemon
-Digimon, especially the Cybersleuth Dualogy
-Dragon Quest, with 8,9 and 11 being my favorites
-The Legeng of Heroes, with Trails of Cold Steel not only being my favorite of the bunch, but my favorite games of all times.
-A bunch of ecchi games on PS Vita (some of which were ported to the Switch)
-Megaman Battle Network (best series on GBA)
-Bravely Default series (havent beat Bravely Default II yet though)
@@tantacles there are other RPGs I play too. But those were the firsts that came to mind.
Final fantasy 9 videos are likely coming soon. Just thought you’d want to know. 🤓
@@tantacles Oh hell yeah! I already am in love with your videos about a game I don't like all that much. You making videos about one of my favorite games is gonna divine! You got me hyped, friend =)
Reminds me of the video someone did where it was a challenge run can you beat legend of dragoon using only items. You can imagine Shana was a key component.
Also in that same video I ended up learning a few things I didn't realized when I played the game 2 decades ago; such as optional super bosses.
You spend so much time to make one video... Kudos to you my friend. I love the Dragoon content.
Thank you!
I had a feeling this would be coming soon after the Dart vid. About to watch it but my guess is "Easy at the beginning, incredibly hard in late disc 2/all disc 3, and for some reason gets easy again in disc 4, especially the last few bosses."
Lets see how close I am...
Not close actually, its difficult at the beginning because Shana's stats are quite bad and most of the big damage from enemies are physical, but in early mid game onwards Shana's gets exponential growth, she melts most if not all bosses easily. The very last boss Melbu Frahma is not hard but becomes really tedious to kill because it has so much HP its hard finish it with the limited amount of magic attack items in your inventory and so you have to resort to normal attacks.
Shana solo basically is a little hard for the first half of disk 1, but after that it starts getting easier and easier.
You are hilarious lol and I love your legend of the dragoon content keep up the good work
Thank you!
Before you get famous i want you to remember me.
I really enjoy your content and i just started to watch you recently. Make me proud.
Perhaps we can see some in depth videos of the characters from the game
What would be interesting to see?
To watch someone else grind to get 3 party members legendary casques and armor of legend.
I’ve done it a few times myself so I know it’s possible and soul crushing
This game is wonderful. Great characters, fun fighting system, amazing story and fantastic music!
I would love to see a Kongol Only run. Kongol is my favorite character
*reads title
:no %^&**** way
*subscribes and watches self inflicted torture
Alright now due this run again without attack items! Suffering! Suffering!
We shall combine Shana and Mirandas name and call her Shananda
Shana, the godness of destruction
I cant wait to see a solo kongol run! He wont make it without damage being distributed amongst the party.
The knights are definitely going to be a problem with his poor aoe and slow speed. Any boss that uses magic attacks will be a problem (so most of the later ones iirc) but he looks awesome, so it will be worth it.
That's what i think too, most of the biggest damage in mid to late game from the enemies are magical damage. Kongol's high HP means nothing at all with his terrible magic defense and slow af speed. I suspect the run will hit many difficult obstacles like Lenus and will probably end with Grand Jewel. Bandit ring can help with his slow speed but since its a solo battle, he will have to swap for some status preventing ring and then he's back to square one.
I can't believe someone actually did this, but it seemed like the game kind of got easier as it went along, but that damn item cap lol
I wasn't at all surprised that you could beat the game with only Dart, but i am genuinely surprised that it can be done with Shana/Miranda
I hope to surprise you again very soon!
@@tantacles looking forward to it!
Fun video, thanks 🙂
Your videos have made me realize that maybe I never finished Legends of the Dragoon despite it being one of my favorite games? 😮
This and a similar video (where they ran through the game using only Attack Items for damage) are why I've changed my stance from hating Shana/Miranda to using them in my team at all times. No item is a wasted slot when they can wipe a boss off the face of the earth with a couple attack items and good button mashing!
also it IS possible to kill the final boss with only attack items! it just requires more attack items than you probably had at the end, more Magic on Miranda, some great button mashing...... and at least one teammate to use Power Up on Miranda to amp up her first 3 attack items lol
Big butch waifu (Konkon-chan) run when!?!
Arw you legitimately doing everyone (teehee) eventually? If so mad props, amazing content thus far 🎉.
I feel like they increased the drop rate for the rare items, because on my latest play through I've managed to pick up all of them from Disc 1 enemies so far.
Dudes basically doing the speedrun strats minus a few moments.
You mean minus two meat shields?
@tantacles I mean. They're meatshields until they die. Which is usually what causes speedruns to die, the bosses not hitting the meatshields.
Right, and I just let them die BEFORE Shana does damage. Meaning it’s minus two meat shields.
Cannot wait for the Kongol only run haha 💪
Y'know, in all honesty I would say we have to take this challenge a step further to discern actual character strength. Once you finish the run for each character, take them back and solo challenge Faust 😋
How about doing a ol' Grandad aka Haschel run? I think his speed and stats would help make it a bit smoother. Also the fact him with Bandit's ring and shoes would give him 100 speed, giving him a big chance of attacking twice in a row.
Makes me wonder. Maybe Kongol will be better on a solo run. He doesn't have the problem with being reliant on attack items.
you should mod that game when you get to runs like Meru and Kongol so that they are always in the party. it would be kinda boring to do half the game normally
Watching your runs makes me want a remaster of this game even more. This title is a gem that unfortunately got sidelined by the vice-grip Final Fantasy had on the rpg genre.
Oh bro you gotta do this with kongol!
Uh oh
That ff8 music hits me 😂
I always pronounced it "shaw-nah"
Edit: just finished the game and Dart clearly pronounces it the same way I do.
The only thing badly beaten up after this run are your fingers/thumbs mashing the X button. lol
During the first Lenus fight she will use magic more often after you use a dragoon.
#Justice4Kongol
Can't wait to see the Kongol run! 😁
You missed the first hit on Kongo (deodorant) though 🤣🤣
Wow, I applaud all of this, and to make all of it harder. You even took out the ability to use your dragon spells. Looking forward to the next single character play through.
FYI: I click the like button before the video even starts.
Actually dragoon mode is kinda useless if you can master additions and button mashing. Final additions and attack items mashed above 220% easily do more damage than Dragoon addition and magic. Dragoon mode are great for casual players since its easy to use and do decent damage without the need for high execution skills. But most veteran players especially speed runners almost never use dragoon mode. I personally only use it to remove negative status effect for free when i don't have purifiers in my inventory.
As a point of clarification, what I meant was for the final boss, and throughout the game actually, Dragoon Spells, are something that you don’t have to worry about a 36 item restriction, you can recover MP during battle with particular accessories, and or armor. Useful in a single character challenge, although I concede the point of Dragoon transformations not being of much help to anyone playing a speed run…but neither would a solo character challenge, considering the amount of extra time BURNED killing off your other party members.
See not useless lol but no dragoon oof now that's a challenge
Dragoon forms have always seemed relatively useless to me tbh with the exception of rose storm
Amazing. Watching these videos is just a treat. What's your secret for reaching 200% on magic items? I can only get about 160% spamming X with my index finger.
I basically have a seizure with my index finger
Let's get thunder gramps next
I think this run shows that Shana is a very good character, actually. Just... not very fun.
You have a game well known for its Addition system and a character that doesn't have any.
May I suggest a run through with the characters original weapons, armor, etc? Can't equip/upgrade them with new items! Im doing that now and lemme tell ya... its challenging
im pretty sure someone has typed this already but if you do another challenge run Frugals pets are weak to total vanishing witch you find two of before your second fight with him
I used one!
I always >:( when ppl shit talk Shana so I'm happy u schooled the public but MY SWEET BBY ROSE THO WHATS UP W THAT
19:45 I guessed 3 🎉 🎉 🎉 woohoo!
I bet you could beat the game with Lavitz alone.
Participating in the engagement farm!
3 Magic Attacks?
Also, also how DARE you diss Rose!? You monster!
Okay well technically she is a monster too, but that is besides the point
Bandit ring from Drake is a 30% drop
Love the FF8 music.
Word, can take out rodrigo with a total vanishing
The fact that you managed to do this with Shana absolutely blows my mind! Do you stream this while playing or just record and upload to youtube?
This one was not streamed, but most of my challenges now are streamed on YT, including the chrono cross video that just went up today
Bro naw just shana is torture but shana WITHOUT dragoon is suicide
I actually have a question about the magic items that i can't recall the answer on. Does the item gain power if used by the character with the matching element type, i.e. shana using a light spell or meru using a water spell, or is it based purely on the magic attack stat, weakness of enemy to element , and multiplier of spell if it has it?
No STAB bonus, sadly.
Thanks I could not remember if it was apart of it or not.
I beat all boss from cd3 and cd4 with meru solo. Meru shes thé god tier xD
You should've seen Casposaurus' items-only run before attempting this...
Odd you chose to do these without Dragoon magic. It's one of the main things I love about the game.
Well, it’s a challenge run. Gotta keep it challenging. 🤓
@@tantacles So much grind...!
three attacks on the dragon boss?
Called it what do I win?
I'm starting to wonder if you could actually Speedrun this game
I am certain that Kongol would be more challenging. He is much slower, and folds to magic attacks.
With legend casque you can
so, im a little special, (Dumb and can't understand guides well) but where do you actually go after Lavitz get's OKO'ed by loyd? Game auto takes you to celes, And i didn't exactly pay attention to the dialog to know where to go next, is it actually the black palace? (That's where i headed, after noticing the path open up, but i feel like its the wrong location, LOL)
Yup! Black palace!
@@tantacles thank you for the verification! Never fully played, nor gotten this far, so I'm just always questioning my choices! kinda happy my gamer instincts didn't fully betray me! Lol
Meru solo challenge when?
How come you dont use dragoon forms in these challanges? Argubly they are still part of the character.
Either way, loving more LoD content on youtube! Keep it up!
Just trying to keep it actually challenging! The notion of “the legend of dragoon” with no dragoon… it’s amusing.
@@tantacles makes sense, but you could argue that using Dragoons IS making it harder. Most people consider the characters and their additions by themselves to just be superior to the dragoons.
Looking forward to the next one!
@@TheHustler245 Exactly so, final additions and magic attack items mashed above 220% easily do more damage than Dragoon addition and magic. Dragoon mode is almost always weaker in the hands of a good player that can master final additions or mash above 250%. I personally only use it to remove negative status effect for free when i run out of purifiers. It has good defense but probably not worth while if you can't use items to heal when in need.
I think doing a Dragoon mode only solo character run would be fun and challenging with rules like this:
1 - You can only use the initial addition until you unlock the best SP gaining additions like Madness Hero, More & More, Rod Typhoon, Summon 4 Gods, Cool Boogie, Pursuit.
2 - You can turn into Dragoon anytime you gained enough SP to transform, i.e single turn Dragoon transform(useful for Grand Jewel, Divine Dragon and Lloyd).
3 - Once your dragoon spirit gauge is full you are not allow to use additions until you transform and deplete your gauge. You can still guard and use healing/buff/debuff items when your spirit gauge is full.
3 - If you start a battle with enough spirit gauge to transform, you must always transform and deplete your gauge first before you can use additions again.
4 - You are not allowed to use characters that have not obtained their dragoon spirits yet.
5 - All other members in the party must die before you can attack.
just a question, but are you interested in just having the one character from the start? No need to wait around for others to die or to unlock the character, making it possible for haschel, kongol or meru runs
In general, yes. For this series, no
@@tantacles fair enough, emulation makes it real easy with the dragoon modifier, which also adds hard+hell modes and super bosses. Worth a shot. Theres also the severed chains build out there if the legality of emulation is questionable
The spirit of this challenge is essentially - if the character got all the information from everyone else at their point of joining, do they need anyone else?
@@tantacles Thats fair, I just figured I'd at least inform you of the other stuff in case you didnt know or anything. Currently doin the hard mode playthrough and its such a game changer in tactics and viabilities
i like your sense of humor, but are you using a turbo setting for increasing magic attack?
Nope! I’m just a really good finger-er
@@tantacles 🤣
Hmm... so here is a question. Why is Dart the one dealing the final blow on Doel and not oh I don't know Albert? Seems like he should be the one to do it.
Also are the boys stealing her kills or is Shana letting them take those final blows so they feel like they are contributing?
Women making themselves seem weaker so men aren’t threatened… it tracks. #girlpower
Shana also simps pretty heavily for Dart so it makes sense from that angle as well.
Miranda lets him do it because she is salty that you put Shana's name in the title and not hers
Can you beat the game using the character every speed runner uses?? Probably.
BUT… Without meat shields?
Is there some mod that allows you to switch Dart with another character battle? Because I would love to see this done with every character, but Rose, Haschel and especially Meru and Kongol come later then I personally feel would work out well.
Also the answer is no no you can not beat the game with only Shana. Nor Lavitz. Anyone who has played the game knows why.
I needed that reminder like i need a dragon buster to the chest.
Stabbed through the heart! And Lloyd's to blame!💘
You ask if there's a mod to swap out dart but ignore that there's a mod/cheat that let's you have shana and lavitz the whole game.
Well yeah. Shana is worst girl so her being replaced is fine. Meanwhile Lavitz needs his beauty sleep and we must be respectful of that
yes there is mods that allows that and its not hard to find the one I know allow you to have every char at lvl 1 but the char from rose to kongol will have dart basic equipment so weapon wise it's a bit tragic for some because they lose access to the weapon they would start with so you need to grind for one or wait for even later to get a weapon from a shop. Also everytime there is a change to the party you need to place back that char in the party to have access to it again its a bit annoying but doable. Last thing is battle like the hoax one I think its impossible to swap any char so you are stuck with dart and lavitz because of how the game work.
May i ask why you never talk about the later characters in tier list and videos like this? Is it for spoilers
Yes, 100%.
This game was never balanced for... well, anything, I guess
Can you breath the game where speed is broken with the fastest character who is great with magic? I wonder….
As against stealing credit for another's work as I am, I HATED Shana when I played this game, so screw Shana! 😆
AHAHAHA I love it
Only Shanna, so pretty much a speedrun?
But without meat shields
Great point, seems pretty fun xD
Almost got enough likes.
Can you beat the game with one of the most OP characters, who people actually use to speed run the game? Yes. Yes you can.
Well, ok, but usually she gets to hang with a couple of meat shields.
🤔 I'd hesitate to say shana is op. Once she out levels the content, maybe? Her speed and item attack spam could work but you could say the same for Meru. And you could do similar, to some extent, with Haschel(and Dart).
@@tantacles ya thats true those speed runs are normally Albert and Shana and they kill off Dart lol
No... No you can't. Cause she's only available half the game then you're stuck with Miranda so saying can you beat the game with a character you can't even use? Well no, no you can't. Yes I'm being technical and cynical, but fact is he did not beat the game with shana
Facts are facts, america
After replaying it, I remembered how much of a sexist trope Shana is. She’s ALWAYS sick/captured/having a magic breakdown. No good reason a character like Shana should’ve existed in a post-Ayla world.
How are you at the end and not have a lv5 dragoon for S/M???
Because she has to use physical attacks to get dragoon levels and I avoided using physical attacks because they’re SUPER weak
@@tantacles so? It's called grinding.
@@d.sack2727 And this is called a challenge run! 😀
@@tantacles Oh! So you're saying grinding with her isn't a challenge. LOL