BMW 550i F10 - A Terrible Car You Should NEVER Buy!
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- If you want to be left on the side of the road, then you should buy a BMW 550i with the notorious N63 engine.
After we added the JB4 tune, the car ran great for a day, but then started to have issues. We found multiple misfires and noticed that the high-pressure fuel pumps were barely registering any fuel pressure. So, in this video we will be going through the parts that we are going to be installing and explaining why they are essential to fixing this BMW. Stay tuned! I imagine there will be more parts and money thrown at it shortly down the road!
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bought one with 58k on the clock.drove it for 5 years and sold it with 183k.never had any bigger issues. was so happy with it i bought the g30 m550i 2 years ago🥰
I see that English is not your first language, but why do you drive over 20,000 miles a year? I thought we are supposed to be conserving resources worldwide?
man who tf give a shit about resources.@@captainamerica9353
@@captainamerica9353it’s your car who tf cares
@@sa-iu1cc , say what?
@@captainamerica9353 I mean I don’t see an issue it’s a car that is meant to be driven so however many miles u choose to put on it is the owners choice
I have a 2012 550i and if you take care of your car you don’t have to worry about Certain problems Yess all of these cars have issues but when Research is Done and work is done properly Amazing vehicles
Please tell me English is your second language?
I agree ‼️
Said the same thing about my 335i. Outside of typical maintenance for a car from 2007 I haven't had any real issues from my car. And most of the maintenance can be done by yourself if you know your way around a car and have a good obd tool to help give you an idea what to look for
Amen to that. The brand has a bad reputation due to shit owners. It’s really 40% BMW and 60% bad owners.
A tale as old as time.
Buys BMW.
Tunes BMW.
BMW breaks down.
Owner complains about unreliable BMW.
Repeat
My 2011 550i original n63 with the 6 speed manual just got past 96k miles and with no repairs other than one leaky coolant hose which was a cheap fix. But so far it runs as smooth as glass and never failed me once. Just change oil with Motul full synthetic every 6k miles.
awesome!!
I have a 6 spd too!
kinda jealous now lol that would be one helluva car!
How is it now at 100k?
Sorry to hear about your experience. I've owned a 2015 550xi with the N63TU for 4-1/2 years (bought it used) and it's been great. Mine is completely stock, and the power is ample, The original PCV lines crumbled after 5 years of cooking in the hot V, but they were replaced by BMW with redesigned parts under an extended warranty. The high-pressure fuel pumps are also covered by an extended warranty. Oil consumption has been minimal since switching to Liqui Moly oil. I would buy another one as long as fuel cost isn't an issue. I get about 18 mpg around town, and mid-20's on the highway, but if I drive it like a race car the mileage suffers accordingly.
awesome to hear!
Im an owner of a 2015 550i with a tune, driving it around like a racecar, constantly accelerating hard, I get 16mpg on average.
Bought a TU Variant (2014-2016) with 60k on the odometer. Now at 75,300 and so far had two issues. 1) Bank 1 HPFP. The second is partially my fault for not checking differential bushings, but my driveshaft destroyed the splines going into the diff when launching. Currently awaiting a replacement driveshaft. (BMW wants 1900, eBay got your back for about 15%-20% of that, thank god. But other than that, she’s been a pleasurable experience.
good to hear! the TU seems much better fortunately.
I'll tell you one thing, the Pre-LCI N63 is a nightmare.
The 2014+ N63TU is awesome, just get 2 step colder plugs, and new OEM coils and youll be golden.
My 2014 550GT with BM3 Stage 2 tune is a crazy sleeper until you hear the downpipes XD
Interesting project! I’ve had my ‘15 N63Tu for about 60K miles trouble free, but that may just be in my experience. I did have to DIY some rubber coolant lines near the turbochargers at a point in time, which is actually quite easy. I had a HPFP fail in one of the banks as well, but they were replaced under warranty. I’ve been tuned for about 30K miles at 580ish whp on just 93 octane from BM3, but I primarily use this car as my road trip car as I travel cross country for work, my daily is a 2020 X3 M40 which actually feels about similar in power stock per stock!
that's awesome!! the TU was definitely a step in the right direction. if someone has a good experience with one, they should keep the car!
I have the same combination of cars, albeit 2014 and 2022 lol. How many miles have you racked up on the 550i now?
@busterscrugs the owner actually traded it for a 2009 BMW 335i.
Why on earth would you use a gass guzzling v8 for road tripping. These engines use up way too much fuel to be for road trips. And it's all 93 octane expensive gas
@@Hatemyself-xq7wt Car had DHP, so had Comfort+ at the time I owned it, I'm not poor and thus didn't mind cruising long distances at 20-25mpg highway, having B&0 audio and active seats that helped to relax me was definitely a plus.
Have a 2011 550i was just running perfectly smooth I did the Valve stems covers for free under bmw recall warranty at 75k and now my coolant lines just popped at 101k (no service engine soon) but because it runs from the top of the engine to the bottom its ah $4,400 job , he said after this the car should be great . JUS BE READY TO SPEND MONEY ONCE YU HIT THE 100k Mark
2015 650i with 118K miles running strong only had to replace a radiator under warranty 😁
awesome!
now that we're pulling motors, I'm on the hunt for a 2012+ 550i with a manual transmission. :P
@@tony.nextlevelrides - well they only offered a manual up to 2013, sadly. They are very rare.
Bought a 2015 550i xdrive, in 2019 with 48k miles, the most reliable car I've ever had.
love to hear that! looks like the update was for the better! a twin turbo V8 sedan just sounds epic on paper. I'd avoid the 2011-2013 like the plague.
@@tony.nextlevelrides indeed, I specifically searched for late 14’ and up.
Frequent oil changes do magic for this engine, I did every 3.5-4k
@Roman-hs2pq perfect!!
bro I am so sorry that happened to you. Your pain helped my make a better decision.
glad to hear, it's an awful car to work on. fantastic on paper, great to drive but not for someone without the means to repair it themselves!
Awesome video Tony, subscribed! Too bad these N63’s are plagued with so many issues, an amazing concept but poor execution by BMW. Would still love to own one of these at some point just for the V8 noises
I would have loved to have one, it's the issues that made me shy away from getting an M5 with the slightly better S63. it's too bad. 😞
After watching this I still want to pull the trigger and buy one same 2011 with 150k miles lmao
if you can, get a 2012. they're better with better tuning and support. the 2011 is not great.
@@tony.nextlevelrides I ended up buying it. got a good deal and it got an engine replaced by bmw in 2019. Hoping for the best, gonna do some preventative work but everything checks out no leaks, drives well. Thanks for the reply!
no worries! I'd personally run thicker oil and do more frequent oil changes. it'll keep the engine as happy as possible!!
@@tony.nextlevelridesWhat about a 2013? Im thinking about adding more horsepower what do you recommend ? Thank you
@yupper-lf8ni 2012+ seems to be a better motor but still has problems. try to confirm if the valve seals are ok in the least, they're tough to work on and will drain your wallet - be careful!
I bought a 2011 550i xdrive with 70k miles one year in a half after no big issues 30k miles 25k miles since tune to stage 2 with catless and intakes sounds amazing in love with the power only pcv issues (getting oil catch can soon) and cooling line issues which was an easy fix sorry to hear your bad experience mine was probably good cared I also don't push it hard but when I do that shit is scary I won to tuned honda s2000, maserati, huracan, also a audi R8 I never lost one 615hp with dyno tune had jb4 since first day now only use for readings, vrsf downpipes, custom intake I bought one curb that goes into the turbo that doesn't exist no more in the market goes away from exhaust keeping colder air and air filters behind the front grille also use only motul w5/30 for bmw
that's awesome! I love hearing good experiences people have with "troublesome" vehicles. it's all about service and upkeep!
only thing I'd change is running thicker oil with your setup, otherwise it's spot on! frequent oil changes with quality oil and the occasional Italian tuneup with keep it (knock on wood) trouble free!
gotta stay on top of the coolant with that one. find the n62 one if you just want a good dd
Bought a used 2012 550i earlier this year. Spent a pretty penny to stop a antifreeze leak, but it runs flawless now.
I have a 2005 Audi Allroad 2.7tt. So this is right up my alley. Perhaps my next dream nightmare. At least you didn't have to pull the engine to get at the turbo. Haha
oooooh I know all about those motors too! if you can work on one of them, I'm sure you can work on one of these!
Thanks for sharing and beeing honest about your ownership. After owning 3 german cars i switched to a Lexus and the experience is like night and day. Unfortunately that car is my daily driver and has not got so much power. There are not too many options to choose from when wanting a Lexus with a plenty of horsepower so one is still looking for a reliable performance car under 20k any brand. Suggestions?
any BMW with the B58 is a safe bet and is one of the most reliable. I've been happy with my 2017 BMW 540i thus far.
Oh man say it isn’t so. I am a huge n63 fan and watching this now. Very interested to see what happens!
as soon as I took the engine cover off, I started regretting life choices lol.
@@tony.nextlevelrides welcome to the N63. Everything you are doing is cracking me up. Finding out the pcv lines are connected to the intake manifolds and you have no room, the broken turbo inlet intakes, it just keeps coming. You’re doing it right though. I’m very curious about the dinan coils I’ve always wanted to try them. Very good content. You have a ton of N63 fans than love to see this stuff no one else will do. There are very very few that will work on these. Brand new n63 longblocks are only $3700 so I’m in it for a long time .
@@jamestabor587 that's pretty good! on paper they're great, if you could wrench on them yourself. even better!
the dinan coils look good, they appear the same as BN, CTS, etc. they just look like a red/blue/black top Eldor coil. on the plus side, I've never had one fail! they're cheap too.
@@tony.nextlevelrides absolutely! Man I feel for you. I see this is a too be continued episode. I seriously thought you had it all fixed when you found the broken turbo inlet and the pcv hoses just hanging. I hope you figure it out man. I’m excited to see how this ends. Good luck. I own a 2013 x5 xdrive50i n63 with the stock m performance package. Do a lot of my own work like you. All basic maintenance. Has 120,000 miles and I’ve been lucky. Very reliable with no major issues or problems. Burns very very little oil. 1 quart per 5000 miles only. I just did all the exact same work on mine that you did on the 550i 6 months ago. Very cool content!
that's awesome! this one had all the typical issues. upper and lower oil pan gasket leaks, timing cover leaks. pcv issues. etc. the hot-vee isn't kind to engine bay plastics! shoddy work done by the previous owner didn't help either.
as soon as he did downpipes, it smoked. the valve seals are definitely not happy but that's a massive endeavour.
with these, the higher the mileage the better. that way you know nyohjng major like oil pump or bearing issues will sneak up on you. injectors are a thing but at that point, they're likely changed anyways!
I'm sure it'll treat you well, the JB4 made a huge difference in power. well worth doing if you like to tinker a bit.
I have a 2016 bmw 550i f10 and I don’t have any of these problems and I now have 125k miles so not all f10 550i are bad just the n63 motors not n63tu just so you know
they all have issues, sometimes you get a good one. each TU revision they definitely were made better and had improvements! glad you got a good one! I'd love a good one.
Looking at a 2018 m550i with the n63tu2.. what would you say are the most common problems? And if you know a ballpark estimate of what it would cost to fix those problems? Any input you have would be awesome. Thanks for the vid
those seem to be significantly better, I considered selling my 540 for an M550. I've heard of occasional rod bearing issues but nothing else. they seem pretty solid.
@@tony.nextlevelrides appreciate the reply man! They depreciate like a rock so getting it at a good price. Leaves room to save extra per month for any problems I encounter but fingers crossed bmw got their sh*T together by this engine model
honestly, it's new enough you'd likely get one with CPO. I'd own one in an instant with extended warranty.
that being said, I've been very pleased with my 540 and the B58 as well. it's around 550hp crank with minimal mods.
😎
I’m looking at an F90 currently with the V8
Didn't want to change Spark plugs after all that
he already had changed them and gapped them down to 0.022. he assured me they were fine so I checked to make sure they were snug.
Just buy a extended warranty with all the bells and whistles and this car is golden
yup, I'd have to agree with you!
I'm interested in getting a 2014 550i manual in the next year or so. Most likely it'll be completely stock and I dont plan on doing anything crazy with it besides an exhaust, intake, and wheels. Is there a list of things, like a top 5 or 10, that you would recommend to replace for preventative maintenance? I've been told and read that BMW likes to use a lot of plastic parts and as everyone knows, over time plastic becomes brittle and what not. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
first thing I'd do is start it cold and look for a puff of oil. secondly, take it for a drive and come to a stop in a parking lot, etc. wait about 10 minutes then stab the gas and watch for smoke. those are two tell-tale signs of valve stem seal issues.
past that, I would replace the PCV system (tubes / diaphragm. whichever the year has) along with plugs, coils and run slightly thicker oil (5w40).
past that, it's all basic maintenance and service. I'd bet a pre purchase inspection however to make sure the valve cover gaskets, upper and lower oil pans aren't leaking. etc. they're very hard to diagnose without a lift.
hope this helps! a manual would be sweet!
@@tony.nextlevelrides thanks! I’ll be sure to keep this in mind when I get that beemer!
@framesngrains2933 , I doubt you'll find a 2014 stick shift, as 2013 was the last year. Which means you can't get a stick with the upgraded engine! Sad but true.
Has the updated versions of this engine improved reliability? Thinking of getting a cpo 2021 M550i but keep hearing bad things of the N63
I want to say yes but can't define by how much.
I'd say the newer ones were a fair bit better and more reliable. I debated buying one but find the B58 to be much better and much more reliable
the n63tu is better they fixed everything wrong with the n63
debatable. it's certainly better but still (unfortunately) plagued with issues.
I do know they have better injectors, valvetronic and revised oil pump. fortunately lots of big issues fixed!
@@tony.nextlevelridesehh idk I have a friend who’s had fbo and e30 tune on his for 60k miles(it’s sitting at 130k miles now) beats the absolute dog shit out of it and it still runs way better than my 60k miles mustang 5.0
there are good ones out there, I can say the same for my buddy's N55 in his e90. 230k and somehow running flawless (minus transmissions).
@@tony.nextlevelrides N55 in E90? Didnt the E90 have N54?
the 2011 had the first version of the N55. 🙂
i’m looking into 2013 bmw 550i f10 do you think it’s worth it?
if you can get one with extended warranty and an extensive service history with valve stem seals being done. it might be.
@@tony.nextlevelridesthank you i know about the valves i’m also looking into some 540i but i keep seeing base models is worth getting base model
Curious to know what year that car is. I bought a 2014 550i with an MSport package. The car is great but I find myself constantly looking out for that terrible Drivetrain Malfunction message. So far the biggest issue I've had is having to watch the fuel I put in because the car seems to shake, rattle, and roll with certain fuel. Hasn't cost me anything but the fuel system is definitely finicky. I'll have it flushed to see if it makes a difference.
it's awesome that you (by the sounds of it) got a good one! I DO know they did an LCI upgrade around 2014, perhaps it was a noticeable upgrade that got rid of the majority of issues the 2011 model were plagued with. If it's driving good, fuel up and enjoy it!
@tony.nextlevelrides I'll admit, I did a ton of research before I bought the car. I found out about the class action suits brought against BMW for the 08-2013 models with the N63. Knew I was purchasing the title upgraded N63TU, however, my eye is still very keen on a few things. Plus the car is second hand so I have a small grocery list of parts to swap out, I don't have the habit of trusting previous owners before me. I found your video eye opening, I will be checking for loose connections inside the engine bay.
keep your oil change intervals shorter than BMW recommends and I'm sure you'll be fine!
I didn't expect this to be a comedy. Fuck yeah BMW heat and plastic COMBINE.
2012 550xi for 16k out the door with 80k miles should I buy it? It sucks it’s not the new engine with 445hp.
I can't think of many times I'd tell someone to buy one of these vehicles. 2012 is marginally better but you'd have to do you're due diligence ensuring its clean without issues. like valve stem seals, etc.
@@tony.nextlevelrides, so is the 2012-2013 good years for the 550? Especially I love manuals only so I’m sure a 2011-2012 535i would probably be better of course ?
@silvaunit7663 depends, both have cast cranks so not sure either is better. N55 for. most things would be easier to work on though.
if I could find a manual 550i from 2012+ I'd debate buying it.
@@tony.nextlevelrides , so would it be safe to say the 2011-2012 335i would be a safer choice . I have talked to 335 guys who say the 335 is more reliable than the 550 650 and 750 . The biggest debate is between who is more reliable between Audi and bmw guy told me the 09-2011 s4 v6 was a good car possibly more reliable then the bmw that is always the debate that I look for honest opinions and not biased opinions. I had a 02 Saab 9-5 a couple of years ago 5 speed manual that was a great car didn’t give me any problems but I had to give it away unfortunately Saab was awesome cars possible more reliable than bmw that’s a debate
Hey did you end up getting this back on the road? The video ended with the drivetrain malfunction that we all know and love. Just curious. Thanks
we did! we happened to have a faulty JB4 somehow. it was great for the first day and some then for some reason started giving us issues.
the car itself had its own set of issues but after this service, it wasn't that bad. we flashed xHP in the meantime but the owner found an e90 he really wanted and traded it.
Ahhh I see. That’s good that that’s all it was.
They car will be reliable in hotter climate state, they don’t like extreme cold
@6:10 😂😂 that’s right boys we have a 5qt jug storage spot for extra oil at all times #bmwlife
I mean, it fit perfectly. so, it's meant to be. 🤷
Intro was 😂
like 40 seconds in and he is talking about how it drove fine before a tune lolololol
well, fine is relative. it still had issues and things we were going to fix.
I didn't want to think it was the brand new JB4 but that's what it ended up being. even with it shut off, it kept being the issue until it was fully disconnected.
@@tony.nextlevelrides ah okay understood.
If you had a bad luck and don’t know how to fix your car that does not mean bmw 550 is bad lol 😁
I mean, I wouldn't exactly consider it good. buuuuutttt.
IKRR
n/s63s are horrendous. The only people these cars are for are fanboys who have to learn the hard way or wealthy people who keep them for 36 months.
@bmwbmw7635, then explain the lawsuit and bad reputation?
Where are you located
Calgary, AB.
I feel for you brother.
Brother you said something about smoking after downpipes installed. Why is that? I am experiencing the same now. Only been on my car for a week. Annoying.
the valve stem seals are very weak on these engines and always dry up and harden with the turbos being up top and in the middle. when they harden they allow oil to get passed the seal, slip down the valve and burn inside the engine causing the smoke. it's a huge job to repair because the engine needs to come out.
it could also be the PCV system in some cases. after changing the PCV on this car, most of the smoking stopped.
The seals are only when starting the engine after resting it.
DP's are naturally a little smokey, especially w/o a DP specific tune.
Those fumes are what the Cats are cleaning up.
My N63TU did this w/10k on a healthy motor and it worried me at first until I got it Dyno tuned.
Now it smells raw but no more smoke, especially after accelerating harshly and slowing down when exiting the freeway.
If you see a cloud of smoke when you start up, then you need seals.
$5K gets you a new engine from BMW. Just swap it.
that would be sweet. I feel like it would be a 1000pc puzzle stthst point. lol.
@@tony.nextlevelrides it's worth the updated pistons and rods alone. just something to think about.:)
I'm doing a swap right now on my own. I have a four post lift and AWD so it's a little more work.
that does sound intriguing. if I found one clean and cheap enough needing a motor. I might do it.
535i w a tune beats a less reliable 550i. Easy choice for me.
N55 is a wicked engine as long as you get a good one. Other than valvetronic issues and potential rod bearings. otherwise it's decent.
n63 is junk after 2014 TU much better but still not that good tu3 is a monster and reliable
This is the type of guy that has issues with his bmw bc it’s covered in mud. He obviously doesn’t take care of his car at all.
Any car will leave you stuck, there’s hella F-150’s 2013+ that get rod and knock and no oil to the cams at 30-100k miles.
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