Why JPEGS are SO GOOD!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Ask any photographer and they'll tell you that you need to shoot RAW, not JPEG. For the most part I agree with that, it makes editing photos much easier. But shooting RAW+JPEG, well that makes it easier still. In this video I talk about how, using Lightroom's Reference View tool.
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“Welcome to 2020” is a bit mad watching in May as we slowly watch the world fall to pieces
It's getting wilder by the day.
august 4th commen here, CAN CONFIRM! D:
hm
I come from the future. Just you wait. ;)
Fml just set me back to 2020.
But then I can’t wear a “I SHOOT RAW” tshirt everywhere I go! Lol
Sure you can. You still shoot RAW.
You can always add (in small print) "but I process my images with the help of the JPG" :-)
BAHAHAHAH! Or you could get a shirt that says "I shoot whatever the hell I want to shoot!"
Do you want to look like Jered Polin at all?
I would buy that shirt and under that I would write ‘every great once in a while’
Mike The Finder
That is such an Americanly silly thing to do.
It’s like wearing a T-shirt saying....”I drive a BMW”
I've always shot RAW+jpeg, mostly because I don't do alot of editing, usially I just use the iamges from my camera, but on the occasions I feel creative I always have the RAW to mess with if the mood strikes.
@Brandon S mine are only like 20mb, the buffer on my a6400 is pretty good so I don't really notice but I can see your point if your raws are 80mb.
@Brandon S lmao, how do you even get 80 megabyte photos I shoot 24megapixels 14Bit RAW and each files is under 30 megabytes
@@dallasgrant 80MB?!?
@@sdspeedy1probably the A7RIV file sizes. 61MP jpegs can be around 30-40MB. I have the A7RIV and have to compress the jpegs even more for posting online. The raw files are on another level, around 1GB of data, which is why I've been thinking of shooting compressed raw + jpeg instead of raw + jpeg. 😂
I still need to do more research on compressed raw vs raw though.
I was surprised to see presets in your link list, but then clicked and got a good laugh. Well done! 😂
haha, cheers :)
Had to go look 😂
I can't put them in the cart though 🤔
I think you missed a video there.. In one of the videos, James explains how you can get the presets and it's this video: ruclips.net/video/8y_ICvrKElY/видео.html 😊
I'm buying that. It's a good deal.
Be careful, some prince will buy it one day 🤣
You know when you have come full circle when after spending ages editing your raw file, the original jpeg looks better. The algorithms that camera manufactureres use these days are so good that most of the time I can get what I like by just adjusting the saturation and contrast just a bit and its done. In fact, I have an old Canon G6 and the jpegs are so good in normal light, I hardly change them.
Exactly.
“YoU aRe nOt A rEaL pHotOgrAphEr!”
@@kencur9690 99% of the people that use a camera are not real photographers and don't need to shoot raw for one simple reason, they don't know how to edit the photos.
@@ademosthenes4911 and then there's that 0.5% who are real photographers and actually take a good photo to begin with, using old school, traditional principles. You know, the ones who actually understand how light works and how to capture a moment, instead of heavily relying on sliding some bars to achieve something similar.
@@kencur9690 and i'm sure that 0.5% need videos like this to teach them how to do their work.
Even as a novice photographer I was highly recommended to shoot raw based on, I guess, the desires of the person who was teaching me about cameras; however, after watching his video juxtaposing a raw and jpeg together in the same frame on a good computer monitor, I really couldn't differentiate the image quality advantage in the raw, even after post-fixing, that much. I think it best to adopt the idea of shooting raw and jpeg at the same time. If the jpeg appears pleasing and does not need touch ups, then go with what's going to save you time. I like the idea of shooting in both formats and believe I will do this for a while.
Editing raw is just better for editing. Say you took a picture of some trees. Under the trees are super dark, but the leaves are almost white from reflecting the sun.
Raw would let you edit the dark area and make it visible without turning it into a blob. And it would let you bring back some of the color in the leaves.
But you are correct if the photo looks nice in jpeg just use the Jpeg and be done with it.
There are cases where raw is more useful. For example, I'm a black and white photographer. If I want to change how colors are represented, I can carry around color filters and fiddle with them, dodge and burn the jpg or adjust sliders on the raw black and white conversion. The raw option is easiest so I shoot raw+jpg for the times I need it
You look really like gerard butler lol.
Once again, a fresh perspective that you don't hear all that much! Good job mate!
I'm not part of the "in-camera" cult or anything, but I like shooting JPG+RAW as somewhat of a nerdy challenge to myself; I found that by trying to get the shot I want in the JPG as sort of a goal to achieve, I slowed down my shooting and started taking more care in composition, light, etc.
Nice! and thanks :)
Terrific advice James, as always, so generously given and always with a good helping of humour which is always appreciated. Hope 2020 is a fantastic year for you both. Best wishes, David
Cheers David, much appreciated :)
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Educational, humorous, and probably the most important parts... genuine and humble. Of all the other youtubers I've watched, even though you are leaps and bounds more professional than I am, and quite possibly most of your other viewers, you are down to earth and relatable. You give us a real-life perspective of what photography is like. The only negative is my own beard envy, but that is something I can't help. What I can help is my photography, and you have been a big part of that improving that. Cheers.
Thanks so much mate, and if it's any consolation the beard is itchy as hell!
Rarely do I edit photos but to crop. Makes me a better photographer knowing this is my shot...no edit.
I shoot in Jpeg for exactly the reason you said regarding its like shooting with film. If I shot in RAW I would just take lots and lots of photos knowing that I'd be selecting the best and then editing it. Shooting in Jpeg makes me take my time with each shot. I do counterbalance (or atleast try) the fact i'm shooting in jpeg by using my camera in completely manual mode and manual focus. My photos feel much more personal when I do it this way.
Happy new year James and Emily.
Hope you have a great 2020, and looking forward to what you get up to.
Cheers Richard - you too! :)
Great tip James actually never thought of this nor have we seen anyone else ever mention anything about it. Cheers 👍
Basically if you don't plan on doing a ton of editing, shoot jpeg. If you plan on doing a ton of editing like bringing back a ton of shadows or highlights, etc., shoot raw.
RAW is a better choice if you want to edit your photos, no arguments. If, however, you don't enjoy editing photos, the fact that your camera will process it for you and produce a reasonable quality image is great.
What a great idea! Happy 2020 to you and Emily.
Thanks Wendy :)
Happy New Year James. This the first great video from you in 2020! This tip is a helpful, juicy nugget of info from a seasoned photographer. Thank you.
Thanks so much :)
Good one.
I used to do something quite similar, shooting RAW+JPEG and having the JPEG file as reference as you've shown.
But at some point I noticed that on some cameras (Canon in my case) there's an embedded JPEG baked into the RAW file as well, and if you open the RAW file in an image viewer that's what you'll be seeing, so unless you really want the JPEG as a quick backup publishing solution (which is another legit usage sometimes), you might as well shoot in RAW only.
Happy new year :)
hi, Gerard! are you going to do another movie like the 300? you are awesome in that movie!
Nice
My thoughts exactly🤣
😂😂
Thats what i've been thinking the whole time that where i've seen this guy
Bob dad version
You got one thing right, now, when this video has appeared on my suggested videos, is certainly nothing like new year. Despite the current circumstances, great video!
i came to realise that my "workflow" is really relaxing when i'm just shooting my pictures, sending a few of them to my phone, quick edit in snapseed and then instagram or flickr or whatever i wanna do with it. and i'm always happy with the results, and then some months later i'm using the raw in capture one, spend two hours on the same pic , stressing me out, and compare it to the old one made with snapseed and i like it better !
"Happy new year! It's 2020!" It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. Brutal!
Great tip to use a JPEG as a reference! Can't believe I haven't done that.
Even videos like this with content that that don’t offer me new knowledge I always watch all the way trough at least once. Because the delivery is always fun to watch. And the the fact that all your videos consistently gets over a third the views of your subscribers ecco that statement. That statistic about your channel is among the best in class and means you got a consistent group of followers that actually what he’s your stuff😉
Great stuff sir✌🏽
Thanks so much mate, really appreciate it :)
Nice one James. I have been in that situation where I have been so engrossed in editing images that some can look terrible! Good advice to have that JPEG as a reference point and take it from there.
Cheers Steve :)
I like your approach to this "Enthusiastically editing"-theme. I had to smile (several times actually, during these entertaining 7 minutes) becaus you are hitting the nail on its head with your video here. Like your style too! You have a healthy and un-complicated view of photography.
Subscribed!
Best regards from Norway
Thanks for the entertaining 7 minutes!
I shoot RAW and jpeg. I’m not the best at photo editing, especially skin colors. Sometimes I just can’t get a raw file right and the jpeg offers a better starting point. Great advice all around!
After a terrible day, the best way to end it off is by watching James Popsys! Thanks for ALWAYS putting a smile on my dial, you're only helping to grow my love for photography 📸 love your Apple setup by the way #DreamSetup
congrats on the 100K subscribers james!!
GREAT VIDEO! I shoot JPEGS 90 percent of the time and edit in Lightroom..RAW files take up too much space on the memory card and my computer!
Keep up the great work!
interesting Idea - it's similar to the idea that people should listen to a reference track when mastering (or maybe mixdown-ing) audio.
One of your best videos, it’s so true. Having the comparison is really important. Top work! 👍
Thanks so much mate! :)
Good tips! Any belated happy new year!
I really love your channel and I find you very genuine and true to the cause. I appreciate your honesty and way of describing a few things. Well done and trust that I am a loyal supporter and also love Lumix and have a G9 of my own haha. Maybe one day will shoot together..do some workshops or something..you would be successful
Great video, you made a great point and I'm also one of those people that get sucked into the photos too much. I normally have to wait till the next day to finalize my edits
That's a good tip James....having the JPEG version available when working with the RAW file. I have a dual monitor setup so this should work well. I'll check this out right after I finish watching this video. Cheers and Happy New Year.
Just watched this, happy new year from may 2021. Another great video, thank you
Happy new year James! Simple but great idea as per usual.
Cheers Richard :)
This is a one of the most fundamental truths of dealing with your images ! I see hundreds of amateur and
even advanced enthusiast. and 'expert' photographers MASSIVELY overworking their images !!!
This is a breath of fresh air , by my eye . Thanks for saying this AND for posting it !
Thanks for watching :)
I always wanted to be welcomed into the new year by James and oh my God is happened. It actually happened. Happy shooting in 2020. Take lots of photos and get out more !!!
Cheers Steve :)
Another very helpful video and have a great 2020!
Cheers John! :)
One of the best bits I've seen on the subject. Very useful. Thanks.
Thanks so much :)
So THAT's what the RAW + JPEG function is for! Great tip, thank you!
Great tip James, glad I’ve learnt something new today. Gonna do this in Lightroom too. I agree totally with coming back to edited pictures, I generally come back to it the following day
Cheers Dean :)
James Popsys and I’ve normally over edited 🤣
In my opinion jpgs look so good I've been unable to edit the RAW image and make it better. It's not that I can't edit a jpg image, just not as much. But as you said RAW may actually allow too much editing. One of the most common positive comments about RAW is pulling things out of the shadows. But it seems to me that if things are in the shadows, perhaps they should be dark!
I've tried editing RAW quite a few times and always revert to jpg. At most I set the camera to jpg+RAW in case there is an image or two out of 500 that I may want to spend more time on. Even then the jpg usually looks pretty darn good.
Interestingly, I am watching this in the new year, just 3 years later. And oh how innocent 2020 seemed at the time...
Hey, wait on there James ! Yarra valley !! Looks like the mountain Ash in the Dandenong ranges ? Possibly on the way the Yarra Valley ?
Another great episode, some great tips, except the cooking part 🍷👍🏻❤️🇦🇺📷
Very good advice! Thank you! I have definitely ruined shots with too much editing. I will use your technique religiously from now on!
Super useful video that. I have been taking photos a long time but never ventured into RAW but now I understand why.
I've started importing images using AUTO in the develop module as a preset. It's been a great starting point for me to work from.
Have never heard of these uses before for JPEG which are amazing pieces of applicable advice to my photography, and I already shoot RAW + JPEG. Thank you do much!
I should be welcoming you , seeing how I am in Australia , and therefore got to 2020 before you.
Have a brilliant new year.
Cheers Anthony!
Excellent video, never thought of using JPG's that way and I will definitely start doing that now!
Oh and happy new year :-)
I came in doubting this video but I think this would have helped a lot when I started photography for the first time. Nice video man :)
Thanks :)
@@JamesPopsysPhoto We'll I've just started, so I appreciate the content!
Really great info here, James!
Well shi*, James.... what a welcome that was to a WONDERFUL YEAR!
Hi James Happy New Year to you and Emily, I have made it my New Years Resolution to start to comment and interact with the you tubers I follow, I have followed your channel for ages but never commented so here’s to new things!! 👍🏻
Cheers Gary! Thanks for watching, Happy New Year! :)
love your videos , you inspiring me to look into photography in different angle, focus on different things and keep attention for different things ! and Happy New Year ! :)
Thanks so much :)
Totally agree about the editing thing, in regards to having a "cool down" period. I take images I really like and go home excited to see them on the screen, but the emotional highs of having shot it haven't worn off and i'm not being as objective with the edit as I should be (plus I REALLY want to post it asap). Sometimes what I do is set an image I liked as a desktop wallpaper so I'm forced to look at it more. Eventually over time I'm able to objectively see what I don't like about it, like a subtle but noticeable color shift in the wrong direction, or having too much or not enough contrast.
I know the feeling mate - nice solution! :)
As little as 10 years ago the image processors on the cameras were quite primitive and we needed the power of a computer to post-process them. Nowadays as you said, the image processors (e.g. Lumix Venus Engine) have "had lots and lots of work put into them by the camera manufacturers", are very powerful and specifically attuned to the camera system. To the extent that the generic photo crunchers are now falling behind on the camera's capabilities and functions.
Yes, do shoot raw+jpeg, but if you need to do a lot of fixing-up, maybe the photo ought to be binned. If the jpeg looks bad, the raw will be too.
"Happy 2020"... "It's not like I have 20:20 vision" - James.
dude, your stuff are great. I was just thinking about that issue with raw editing that I sometimes my photos are really looked over edited, great video you gave here I thing it's going to help a lot!
Awesome, thanks :)
Thanks James. That's happened me a bit (lose perspective while editing), I'll definitely give your tip a try. I hope all goes well for you and Emily in 2020!!
Thanks so much mate!
Well said James, thankyou for sharing your knowledge!
Given how good in-camera processing is nowadays, to me, working with RAW files is just so much like hard work. Photoshop can give me just about all I want, if I need to process a JPEG. On top of that, inevitably, unless I'm going for some weird effect instead of recording reality, my processed RAW file tend to look just like my JPEG.
Depends on the camera software too. Mine sharpens everything too much in jpeg
I know one photographer that doesn't even look at his photos for 6 months. He does this so he will be more objective about which ones are good. I can't do it, but I do see the value in it.
Here i am 3 years later and watching this vidio 😅 Truly amazing man! Your work and your way of explaining is so suiting and easy to understand. Love my journy on watching every single vidio
I shoot raw and jpeg simultaneously; mostly for expediency (sports). If the photo is needed urgently and the jpeg is reasonably exposed it's ready to go out the door.
I'm so inspired I'm taking up an Adobe RAW cake and JPEG icing cooking course....welcome to 2020 James......oh and keep inspiring...
Haha, awesome! :)
Happy New Year, a great tip thanks
You too Steve, thanks! :)
Very good video man ! Great advice
Thank you
Watching in February 2021 to keep me entertained in lockdown... James your welcome to 2020 words, who would have thought it would turned out like this.
The Black Spur photo looks amazing.
I might have to pop up there to try out my first camera.
Thanks for the advice.
Gerard Butler talking about jpegs and cakes...
I really hope your next video will start with “this is Sparta!”
I discovered you this year, and have enjoyed every single video...hope for more in 2020
Yet another great vid James, didn't realise you could do this in Lightroom, will give it a go 👍
Cheers Gareth :)
Saw this one the front page and was like, mmmh might look at it to see what you have to say and I have to say, such a great tip, really helpful. I am going on doing that.
Awesome, cheers mate! :)
Great vid, I get into all sorts of debates about this on various forums, and now with your permission I would like to refer them to this. My Lumix and Mr Nikon are never going to make a camera that does n't produce excellent J pegs. In my experience if I have nailed the settings for a shot i have found its very difficult/time consuming to better that shot editing a Raw file. But this method of keeping the J peg in sight is a great idea.
No problem, thanks for watching :)
Thank you , some great points and I especially like the reference view setting. Ill have to look for a similar setting in affinity photo.
Top info thanks James!
I've always shot both RAW and Jpeg. I like to change my aspect ratio to suit the subject and if shooting b&w images I like to see the image in b&w as I shoot. I always process my images later when I'm not as excited about a trip or the images and the Jpeg having all the aspect crop and other data helps to remind me what I was thinking when I took the image.
When I shoot in RAW, the color looks so off in LR. I may be the only one who prefers JPEG lol
I started out with Jpeg, and to be honest I did'n know what I was doing back then, although I did'n mind about my photos that much because what I would do back then was to take as many photo as I could, select the images I need, then I would later edit and upload those edited Jpeg files to social media, and I continued that for nearly 2 years until I went completely to RAW.
It was rather fun when I started out like that because I truly enjoyed what I had and what I could do.
This was such a good video. I've gone back to my stuff again & again & tweaked stuff plus looking at older edits & thinking that. It's good to hear move away from what your doing, it might look like crap.
Nice idea, shall definitely give that a try. Have shot raw+jpeg for a while already, but more because for some straight forward shots the jpeg version is good enough (or as good as my LR skills could produce), so might as well use them and focus time on those few shots that genuinely need the options available from the raw file.
Cheers Keith :)
Very good video James. I'm fairly new in editing (less than a year) and yes, I've done exactly what you said. Over edited images and then came back to them a week or month later and said to myself, wow, that's over done. Funny, I didn't see that when I first edited the image. Using the jpg as a reference is a great tip...
Great advice James and I say that with 30 years of pro experience. I've also been a Photoshop user since version 2 ( early 90's ) and I realised early on how easy it is to lose perspective as you work on an image. I once shot a portrait of a woman and she asked me if I could remove a few wrinkles ( she was 55-60 odd ) - sure no problem. So off I go softening a bit here, retouching a bit there... She comes by to pick up the file, takes one look, and shouts indignantly, "FFS you've made me look 25!" I had totally over done it - as you retouch the image, the "new" image becomes the point of reference, so you take it a little further... You need to walk away, and let the brain recalibrate! And having a jpeg as well, provides a static point of reference. Cheers
James what a great video. I was thinking of this the other day. I have been shooting close to 10 years and I still sometimes struggle with this. I find that I struggle mostly with white balance. I do exactly what you said; finish editing and get the hell away from the computer and come back fresh after an hour!
Cheers Greg :)
I spend less than 3 minutes at editing any photo. If it takes more time to change colors, tweak here and there, I consider it as a failure and just go take a new one. Anyway, 95% of commercial photos don't look anything even close to reality, so it doesn't really matter unless you severely over processed it.
What a great tip!!! Thanks James!
Thanks for watching :)
This is great advice. Every once in a while I'll be flipping through old photos and can't believe that I edited a thing a certain way.
Cheers Tommy! :)
I've actually thought about this before! Sometimes I sit for ages trying to perfect my photo in Lightroom, only to come back to it and realising the colors are waaaay to saturated. A technique I've been using goes like this: no matter how cool an effect might look like in Lightroom, turn down the effect at least 20% of what you find yourself satisfied with. If you still think the effect is too weak after a while, you might consider cranking it up again.
Sounds good :)
I have learned the same thing. I tend to use a lot of effects on my photos and I find if I go too far on any single one, the final image will end up looking pushed too far. Now I dial the effect to where I like it then dial it back slightly before applying it. In the end the subtle changes add up to a much more pleasing final image.
My brain will get used to the extra saturation I made in one picture then the next picture I wil add even more saturation. Now I try to limit how long I edit my photos so my brain won’t adjust to the added saturation.,
I really don’t regret subscribing to this Guy
I'm an amateur photographer and even more amateur photo editor. I will try this! Thank you very much for the video.
Great tip re using the JPEG as a reference - will be trying this for future portrait shots!
Another tip: Back up all originals before "improving" photos. Then, if mistakes are made... one still has the originals 😊
Or use non-destructive editing software?
Yes, as Mr. Sony says ... "If it's not backed up at least 3 times on seperate devices ... it doesn't exist!"
Debby S-AbqNM but Lightroom is non destructive and the original always stays untouched
@Maëlick Claes - That is certainly a good idea, but me, I'd rather have copies of my originals, perhaps on a thumb drive or external hard drive (or the cloud), just in case in the midst of me working on my computer, the hardware commits suicide or the equivalent. Then I'll think, "Well, at least I still have the pictures (and a lot of other stuff) backed up safe!" Storage is becoming cheaper all the time, backing up is always important. 😊
I'm sure Lightroom and other similar software programs are perfect, but what happens if someone steals your computer or your motherboard or internal storage fail, and everything that was on it that was not backed up elsewhere is no longer available to you? It's not a matter of the software -- it's the _security._ That's all I'm advising.
Wifes reaction: I look forward to all the cake!
haha!
Lol watching this two years later right after New Years… made me laugh a little bit!
Happy 2020 James, great advice about jpeg and RAW I use Lightroom CC will have to see if I can do the reference photo thing with it
Cheers Mark! Oh and there's a question - I'm not sure myself...
Makes a lot of sense. Thanks mate
I’m watching this at the end of March 2024, so it hasn’t self destructed or been pulled by RUclips yet.
I shoot RAW + JPEG because I can never decide which film simulation I like best even though it's always Eterna.