Gibson Firebird vs. Gibson Mini-Humbucker
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Which one has MORE MEAT? Comment below!
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I put classic firebird pickups in a guitar and was absolutely shocked how much I liked them. I expected to hate them, but now they’re my favorite pickup!!!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Jacob!
Hey Jacob. How do they handle heavy fuzz?
@@jaseyraw8843 my firebird pickups love fuzz pedals. My pedalboard is nothing but different fuzzes lol so yea. They still retain a strat dynamic, but with humbucker control. Really nice.
@@ColeDrankWilly hey man thanks for getting back to me. Is that with loud volumes also, or just bedroom levels? Cheers
@@jaseyraw8843 is what loud?
The mini humbucker has more of an upper mid-push than the firebird pickup here. The firebird pickup sounded more balanced overall. Both sounded good for different applications.
Thanks for your feedback!
I have a set of dimarz vintage minis and I really love them not sure if I would get gib minis or firebird pups yet...I may consider a firebird pup if I like it put my dimarzio mini bridge in the neck
Firebird sounds meaty and thick, nice chunky rhythm. The Gibson minihumbucker is jangly and a bit on the shrill side, would be great combination in the neck with the firebird in the bridge?
That would bed a great combination for sure. Thanks for your feedback!
One important thing to note is that the late 70s Firebird used two different pickups in the neck and bridge. The neck pickup was similar to the 60s models, which had two alnico bars as polepieces and were wound to a little over 6k with 42 AWG wire (about as much as a strat pickup at the time, but split between two smaller bobbins). The 70s bridge pickup had one huge ceramic magnet in between two high-wound coils that were rotated 90 degrees (aka the Bill Lawrence Sidewinder design). Judging by the tone, this sounds like a bridge model, while the neck model would be significantly brighter than the mini-HB.
Henry J era FBs then used two ceramic bars in traditional FB bobbins with a high wind, sort of blending the two 70s designs together. Other winders, and the more recent Epiphone FBs, went back to variations of the 60s wind (just usually with a hotter bridge, and/or a hotter overall wind in the case of Epiphone).
Just some useful info for anyone learning about Firebird pickups. Don't draw any general conclusions about their tone from this video. While it was a great comparison for 70s vintage pickups, a ceramic sidewinder sounds VERY different from a traditional Firebird pickup.
Thanks for the great entry bud I have a set of dimarz vint minis love them soo much u know how it is now I wanna try em all 😂😂
now that's an on-point comparison. thank you. i will be putting a firebird pickup in tele neck position.
Awesome. Thanks for your feedback!
Weird question... do you have the wiring diagram or any tips on installing?
Who makes Tele pickguards for a Firebird neck pu?
Who makes Tele pickguards for a Firebird neck pu?
I liked them both but the Firebird pup has a bit more sparkle & clarity, which would cut thru a mix nicely..
Thanks for your feedback jimiaxe!
The bass notes on the firebird is something else
Gibson Firebird
Those Firebird sound beautiful!!
Thanks for your feedback!!
Sweet i love minis
Firebird definitely has more meat, but I sometimes prefer the mini humbucker in certain guitars. I have a refinished Melody Maker from 2010 I bought specifically to put a mini humbucker from a ‘77 Deluxe. Just magic in that guitar.
Thanks Cornelius, sounds like a killer setup!
By more meat do you mean heavier sounding? Since mini humbuckers are heavier sounding of the two
@@1985cactus I disagree, my Firebird pickup sounds much meatier than minihums. My Duncan SM-3 is meatier still.
@@corneliuscrewe677 Okay, thanks. I thought that Firebird pickups are closer to the single coils than regular mini humbuckers are
@@1985cactus To be fair, I have no idea where or when my Firebird pickup was made. I’m pretty sure it’s one of the hotter late model ones. Likely very different from the 60’s originals.
The bird has the meat
Not sure about the “meat”, but the minis sounded brighter and less midranged. I’d pick the firebirds + single 500K volume pot
Thanks for your feedback!
Firebird pickups are cool but i've found it lack some frequencies on top end.
i like the firebird more most of the times, but a classic mini is great in a hollow or semi hollow
Thanks for your feedback!
Yes, mini humbuckers work really well with any Guitar that has P90s. The Epiphone Casino/Gibson 330 and even on les paul specials and Juniors cos they fit without having to take a mallet and chisell to the wood-work.
The firebird pickups sound better. More Chonk. All these still available?
Thanks for your feedback! It does no look like Gibson Firebird pickups these directly on their web site. But, just about every pickup maker has a Firebird pickup in their product line. Fralin, Lollar, DiMarzio, House of Tone.. Just to name a few.
Firebird. Hands down.
Well played intro
Firebird minis are more single's
The others are more hum's
I ll go with the first
Do you play in the middle position?
Thanks for your feedback and kind words. We'll have to add a video demo of the Bridge & Neck combination. In the works!
do you make custom pick guard to be able to put whatever to a strat? i mean , from minis, to dearmonds, to 3 humbuckers, to tv jones.. i am thinking in buying a 3 humbucker strat only for this purpose, to be able, to load diferent pickguards. but i need to find a place to make the pickguards ( hopefully in europe)
Hi, right now I get all my custom pick guards from FAV Guitars in Paso Robles, CA: favguitars@gmail.com - Ask for AJ and tell him that Kevin with Humbucker Soup sent you. AJ is awesome and his work is fantastic.
The Firebird pups sound more balanced, I like it.
Thanks!
This just pushes me even more to do a custom tele build with Firebird pickups. Love the unique tone of Firebird pickups especially overdriven.
Sounds like a great project!
it would help to know what the DC resistance values are for each, to take into account the differing output between the two. sounds like the firebird pickup has more output..
Great suggestion Alex. We will find a way to work that into the videos.
@@maxbauer1633 all true. however, it’s still a useful value, and you’d be fairly safe betting a 15k dcr humbucker is going to be hotter than a 7-8k dcr humbucker.
Mini-Humbucker has more meat, but the Firebird sounds good too
Hey do these fit in a standard humbucker route or is it wider?
They are not wider, and will fit in a a standard humbucker route. The issue is that your mounting ring holes will not line up with a standard sized humbucker mounting ring. I generally use them in Strats where a custom pick guard solves that problem (as you see in the video). But unfortunately, putting mini-humbuckers in a Les Paul or SG will be a challenge because the mounting ring holes will not line up.
@@humbuckersoup7571 I believe there are adapter rings to convert humbucker to this size not sure how accurate they are though.
@@apakabarteman18 - That is true, but many times the mounting ring holes will not line up with a standard humbucker mounting ring holes (i.e. the four holes that allow. you to screw the mounting ring into the guitar body)
Firebird
Firebird sounds RRRAAWWKKKK🎉
meanwhile mini-hum sounds like a vintage PAF.
There are VERY different late 70s Firebird humbuckers...
I liked the mini better
The minis sounded more tinny
@@Joeco69420 thanks for your feedback 👍
so what is 'meat' ? a lot of guys do not know what that term even means...
Had to listen a third time on this one. Pretty close but the mini humbucker wins the meat challenge
Thanks for your feedback!
As a both Gibson Firebird and Les Paul deluxe owner, i agreed with you. Mini humbucker has full and tighter low end along with more bite and sparkle on top end. Mini Hb definitely win this challenge to me.
@@wooththeduck9859love them all I thought the minis were tighter but less low end but more drive spread out into the mids !??!
I have a set of dimrzio vintage minis and I just love them !! Problem is is I don't know where they place tone wise compared to the gibsons or FB's I'd hate to buy a set and find my minis are the best of both 😂😂
Metal cover cuts some top end. And it is nice.
Thanks Panika!
70'S minihumbucker needs a wax bath badly to work!!
Why- to make it muddy? If it’s not microphonic, try a 100k pot to smooth out the spikey highs; and if it IS microphonic, then wax can be melted on the contact points causing the problem. Sludge is not the answer.
@@johngeddes7894 YMMV
Depending what you meant with more meat, but I would say number one the Firebird
Thanks for your input Frank!
Why is the relevant question "which one has more meat?"? Why is that important?